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Car
E-Class
The Mercedes E-Class is a popular Mercedes model line. Here they’re talking about an E-Class with a squeaky sunroof/roof, and how you may need to remove some interior trim to fix it.
Car
AMGs
AMG is Mercedes’ performance brand. In this conversation, they’re saying the AMG versions are different from the regular E-Class engines.
Car
E-300s
“E-300” is a specific version of the Mercedes E-Class. They’re saying the newer E-300s use a smaller, two-liter engine, and that’s part of why they chose something else.
Car
540D
“540d” is a BMW 5 Series model that runs on diesel. They’re saying they chose the BMW 540d instead of the Mercedes option they were considering.
Term
sunroof
A sunroof is a glass panel in the roof that can open. They’re talking about a squeaky sunroof and how to track down what’s causing the noise.
Term
rubber
They’re talking about the rubber seals/gaskets around the roof opening. If those seals are loose or rubbing, they can make squeaky noises.
Term
hood lining
“Hood lining” here refers to interior/exterior trim panels under or around the hood/sunroof area that cover structural parts and help with noise insulation. The advice is to remove and re-fit the lining so the squeak source can be accessed and the fasteners/seating can be corrected.
Car
BMW E63
The BMW 6 Series is a more premium BMW that’s typically bigger and more upscale than the smaller models. The podcast mentions a problem where the sunroof area (the roof around it) can crack. If you’re looking at one, it’s important to check the roof and sunroof condition closely.
Term
re-weld
“Re-weld” means they cut out or fix the damaged metal and weld it back together. Roof repairs like this are expensive because they usually require taking a lot of the car apart first.
Term
blind
The “blind” is the interior shade that you pull over the sunroof opening. In this story, the roof opening is broken, so the car ends up behaving like a fixed roof with only the shade working.
Term
boot
“Boot” is just the trunk—the storage space at the back of the car. They’re trying to open it but the latch/handle isn’t working.
Term
electric cars
Electric cars run on electricity stored in a battery instead of using gasoline. The host is saying they’ve been around EVs and that changes what they expect from the car.
Term
hockey puck
The host is calling a small round part or button a “hockey puck” because of how it looks. They’re pointing out a specific control/component on the car.
Car
Land Rover Range Rover
The Range Rover is a large luxury SUV from Land Rover. It’s designed to be comfortable like a high-end car, but it’s also made to handle rough roads. It’s mentioned because it’s one of the brand’s top, most premium models.
Car
Porsche 24
The Porsche 924 is an older Porsche sports car made decades ago. It’s known as a classic model that helped make Porsche sports cars more accessible. The podcast mentions it while talking about classic car comparisons and value.
Term
ABS
ABS is a safety system that helps you brake without the wheels locking up. That way you can still steer while stopping hard.
Company
Bosch
Bosch is a big company that supplies car parts to lots of different brands. Here, they’re using Bosch as the source for a headlight, and that changes how much it costs.
Term
parallel
Here, “parallel” means buying the part through a different supply route than the official one. That can make it cheaper because it bypasses some of the usual pricing layers.
Brand
Mercedes
Mercedes is a luxury car brand. They’re using it as an example of how parts for certain brands can cost more depending on who sells them.
Brand
V-Dub
“V-Dub” is a nickname people use for Volkswagen. They’re talking about a Volkswagen-branded part/box and how that channel can add extra cost.
Term
markup
“Markup” just means the price a shop adds on top of what they paid for the part. It’s why two sources can sell the same part for different money.
Car
Mercedes-Benz Aclass
The Mercedes-Benz A-Class is a smaller luxury car meant for easier driving in everyday traffic. The podcast talks about an older A-Class (A190) and how the engine setup has changed since then. It’s mentioned because it’s a compact Mercedes that many people consider for daily use.
Brand
Peugeot
Peugeot is a car brand. They’re using it to make a point that the engine/component design might be similar to another brand’s, but the labeling/markup can change the cost.
Car
Dodge Challenger
The Dodge Challenger is a sporty car designed for strong acceleration and a classic muscle-car style. It’s built on a production platform, meaning it’s not a one-off custom vehicle. The podcast brings it up as an example of a performance model with a known underlying design.
Concept
anxiety
They mean “range anxiety,” which is the worry that an electric car won’t have enough battery to get where you’re going. It can make people plan routes and charging stops more carefully.
Term
hybrid
A hybrid uses two power sources: a gas engine and an electric motor. It can drive on electricity sometimes, but it also has a gas engine so you don’t have to charge it like a pure electric car.
Car
Priuses
The Toyota Prius is a hybrid car, meaning it uses both a gas engine and an electric motor. The hosts are saying the Prius hybrid system has lasted for a long time. They also mention it’s used as a taxi, which fits because hybrids are often chosen for lower running costs.
Term
hydrogen
Hydrogen is a fuel that can power a car, and many hydrogen cars mainly produce water as exhaust. The big problem is that there aren’t enough hydrogen stations, so it’s harder to use day-to-day. That’s why infrastructure matters as much as the technology itself.
Concept
infrastructure
Here, “infrastructure” means the practical stuff needed to make a new fuel work in real life—like places to refuel. Even if the cars are good, you can’t use them easily without enough fueling locations. The hosts are saying that building those stations costs a lot.
Term
self-steer
“Self-steer” here refers to driver-assistance systems that can steer the car for you under certain conditions (typically on well-marked highways). Even when the car steers, most systems require the driver to keep hands on the wheel and be ready to take over immediately.
Car
CLS
CLS is a Mercedes-Benz model line. It’s a more stylish, coupe-like Mercedes sedan, and the host is saying their CLS did the car’s steering help really well on the road.
Concept
bump of the bumper traffic
“Bumper-to-bumper traffic” means slow traffic where cars are packed closely together. It’s the kind of driving where driver-assist features can help by automatically adjusting speed.
Car
Volkswagen Passat
The Volkswagen Passat is a regular, mid-size family car. It’s built for everyday comfort and practical driving. The podcast brings it up as part of someone’s past experience with Volkswagen vehicles.
Term
DISTRONIC setup
“DISTRONIC” is Mercedes’ traffic cruise-control system. It can automatically keep a safe distance from the car in front and adjust your speed for you in slow traffic.
Term
overtaking lane
The overtaking lane is the lane you use to pass other cars. Some driver-assist features depend on lane markings, so being in the right lane can change how the car behaves.
Term
cruise control
Cruise control lets you set a speed and the car keeps it for you. On newer cars, it may also slow down if traffic changes.
Term
self-drive
They’re talking about an automated driving mode that can steer for you. These systems usually only work well in specific situations and can hesitate or stop accelerating if they’re not confident.
Concept
marked road
A marked road means the lanes are clearly painted. Driver-assist systems often rely on those lane lines, and if they can’t “see” them well, the car may act more cautiously.
Term
roundabouts
A roundabout is a circular intersection. The speaker is saying their car’s automatic braking system didn’t handle that kind of intersection well.
Term
anchors
“Anchors” is just a dramatic way of saying the car braked really hard. In this story, the car’s safety system seemed to think it needed to stop immediately.
Term
brake itself
“Brake itself” means the car can automatically apply the brakes if it thinks there’s danger. The speaker is worried it might do that at the wrong time, like when the road is confusing.
Term
off-ramp
An off-ramp is the road you take to leave the highway. The speaker is describing a scary situation where the car might brake automatically because it thinks something ahead is about to be hit.
Car
BMW M5
The BMW M5 is a very fast, performance version of a BMW 5 Series. It’s made to accelerate quickly and handle more aggressively than a normal 5 Series. People talk about it because it’s both practical and extremely quick.
Concept
automatic braking / collision-avoidance mis-detection
They’re talking about a car feature that can brake by itself if it thinks something is in the way. Sometimes it can get confused—like mistaking a shadow or an animal for a real hazard—so it brakes even when the driver doesn’t expect it.
Car
Mercedes-Benz GLC
They mention a Mercedes-Benz GLC, and they’re talking about a situation where the car’s braking behavior felt unexpected. It sounds like the driver-assist or braking system reacted strongly when conditions changed (like being near a tunnel).
Car
BMW M4
They bring up a BMW M4 while describing a sudden braking moment. Their point is that when you enter a tunnel, lighting and visibility change, and that can make the car’s sensors/assistance react differently.
Car
Ford Ranger
The Ford Ranger is a pickup truck, meaning it has a cargo bed for hauling things. It can be used for work or everyday driving, depending on the setup. The podcast mentions it in relation to when or how it’s used—like day versus night driving.
LIVE
I don't know how much I can see, but it works.
Oh, yeah, that came off, that works.
Fuck, I'm eating that much as I'm fucking believable.
Seriously.
Look at that.
See, I'm ready to get my relays ringing me up to see
to see what time I'm gonna go to the house to eat
and all that.
Wow.
I said, they're already planning.
Oh, he's coming, quick water down here.
Yeah, that's Phillip up there.
He's given up his job and all his family
really look after his mother.
Mr. Security?
You're up to security?
Got to get your all goods?
We're happy?
Everybody's happy?
Happy?
Yes.
Soundcheck?
Yes, 12
12 check, 12
Good morning, good afternoon, good evening.
You're listening to the All Talk Car Podcast,
hosted by Peter Radis, Tom the Roving Reporter.
Good day.
Straight from jail, security's here.
That is, he's still in jail, security's here.
And we've got a special guest tonight,
Frank's joining us.
Good day, Frank.
Hello, boys.
He's a Mercedes driver, by the way.
He's a Mercedes driver.
What do you drive, Frank?
E-400.
E-400, oh, E, mate.
And he's one of them particular people.
I'm not that particular.
He is a particular people.
You know, like, particular.
Like, I'm not particular.
He is, he is.
No.
No.
What?
What?
Okay, I am.
So you want to have the certain color to go,
the certain coin goes in the certain spot?
Oh, are you?
Not, no, not to that depth.
In the old days we used to pay the tolls,
you had the old spot holders.
Did you and them days have coins stacked,
like, did they have twos?
You didn't have that, though.
Yeah, I never had the taxi coin holder.
No, not the coin, not the coin.
But just in stacks, like,
Propos-
No, Tom, no, I never had.
I couldn't just ask him the same question.
So what's particular about him?
Does that have to make you feel uncomfortable now?
I can't tolerate scratches.
I can't tolerate, yeah.
No, okay, he looked for this car for a very long time.
I was going to say he was a good fucking client.
He was like, well, one of those clients
is like the cars never fucking ride.
No, found it, right, and had chippy front end.
So I wanted to paint it.
I wanted it to have the car immaculate.
So we bring it in.
What color?
Black.
Oh, blacks, that's a nice color.
Well, he taught me how to get in the white one, right?
Because it was going to get a white one.
No, there was something different.
No, it was a white one.
And then you said, oh, if I have to fix this,
I have to spray half the car.
Oh, there was pearl.
Oh, pearl.
Yeah, because you changed.
You're always thinking about your car by the way.
Yeah, but it looks minor, yeah, but not pearl.
He knew what he was up for.
Right, anyway, so we bring it to work
and we had the whole front end strip, right?
Yeah.
Ready?
And he came to visit.
Get me out of there.
He's not crying, yeah.
No, I don't think he, yes, he did.
He saw it in the car last night.
Like to someone who doesn't understand, like,
Yeah, you look good.
True, was I true or not?
Yeah, I regret coming that day.
Yeah, see?
Seeing a car parked is all right.
What I had with Ross was putting stuff in my car
and he was snapping the plastic open.
Tucked it in my face.
I'm like, oh, she's going to break his nut, man.
It's not breaking.
You've got to make a ball of the bar.
Yeah, I still hate when I see the fitters and strippers here,
like ripping off a bar, like ripping it off.
There's a way of doing it and there's a way of not doing it.
With finesse.
Yeah, without breaking all the clips off.
Yeah, without ripping them.
Like father and son team here,
the father, mate, takes care and gets them off.
The son, mate, doesn't give a shit,
just riffs the things off, rips them and doesn't give a shit.
It keeps having chains.
I remember when I had the guitar, I didn't give a fuck.
And then when I bought my first car,
oh, no smoking, can't do that, can't do that.
The very first car, the new car smell.
But I don't like, I smoke in cars,
but I hate when you get in the car and mate, it's, look.
When I got my foot, you were starting.
I picked up a car, like I don't want to say,
I picked up a car from a place, right?
And the lady was extremely good looking
and I had the hots for her, right?
When I jumped in the car to drive it back,
all that went out the window,
made the car smell like an astro.
Oh, you'd see your idea of her change.
That bad, even I didn't like it.
I was, how do you say it, when you got it on you?
So even before I stopped smoking,
when I got my first new car, no smoking.
And then, no, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Three on the way to work, three on the way home,
I saved six cigarettes a day.
Cause things were, the prices were going up back then.
And yeah, no, that helped me stop smoking,
but I hate that smell in the car.
But, can't do it.
So you know what's pictures in my mind?
A good looking chick sitting there
with a smoke hanging out of her mouth.
I know, you can't say no to that.
Yeah, see, I'll thank you.
So Frank, how long have you smoked in your car?
I don't smoke.
And by the way, I didn't mean sitting there
with a smoke hanging out of her mouth.
I'll leave it to your imagination.
It's just took a drag, did you?
So, how did we get to there from E-400 up?
I'm going to buy an E-400 now.
One year, that was at the last of the previous set there,
a good one.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, they're a nice car.
It is.
Yeah, that's, I mean, I've got the five series,
it's been a year.
Oh, shit.
Yeah, it's been a year.
A year would cost superglue the non-plates on.
Fucking hell.
Yeah, it's been a year.
And I looked at the E-Class, beautiful car, expensive.
They're all four cylinders, except for the AMGs.
No, this one's...
Yeah, but the new ones, they're all the E-300s
and two litre, it's like, nah.
So I ended up going the 540D.
So...
Does it have a squeaky sunroof like mine?
The Beamer, it's just all glass.
Well, what's it doing?
It's making a squeak.
Okay.
But Tony told me, that you've got to rip out the lining,
you've got to take all the rubber out.
Frank, we had an E-Class with a squeaky roof.
Right, this guy went to a lot of places,
I told him it was going to be thousands.
He Googled it and then told me what to do
and I Googled it and it's sure enough.
So you know what to do?
Drop the hood lining.
Yeah.
And put your, like, your fan and all that and re-bolt it up.
It's just the bolts.
So it's one of the three.
The, my boss had the E-63 and the sunroof cracks.
It cracks on top of the roof.
And it's about $4,000 to fix it
because I have to pull everything off
and re-weld everything.
It's the sickness of it.
But I've got a panel shop, I don't,
I don't, I don't...
So the first year it's a powdery roof, it doesn't open.
So it's a fixed roof with a blind.
And everything in the BMW is the opposite.
When I first got this car, I'm thinking,
how do I open the roof?
So I'm trying to...
Do it forward.
Yeah, trying to...
Has it got a blind?
Yeah, the blind, trying to move it to the rear.
The blind folds up at the front.
Well, it does.
Backwards.
It took me a day when I was going to
really make a bend, don't you?
So if I put the clip forward,
the blind would roll to the front of the car above your head.
Every time I burp, man, the car would come to the car.
To open the boot, you know, you pull the handle.
I'm pulling, doesn't open, doesn't open.
I pushed the head, bottom in.
Up and down.
They're weak.
That's fucking everything, it's like, I'm sorry.
Well, you've had electric cars, man, everything's pushed.
I know that now.
And it's got the hockey puck.
It was into electric cars for a while.
He drove a Tesla.
The Tesla, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
No, I've got nothing to give.
I've got nothing to give.
I'm going for a drive in it with you, mate.
That was a beautiful car.
That was impressive, mate.
The reason I've got the Tesla
I wanted to buy the newer car was it's electric.
One of the cars like $180,000 and no way
of spending that much on a bloody electric car.
And two, I looked to see second hand ones.
They're still up there.
They're still on my fifth day.
So, no, no more electric for a while.
So I went and bought these one.
These are with the $3.50 litre.
You're wrong, Tom.
There's a fucking idiot there.
All right, what were you saying before about fucking cars?
So today's topic, so what we're going to look at,
is how many cars does a car maker
have to sell to equal to one Ferrari profit?
When Ferrari sells one car, they make...
It'd be a big profit.
They make a big fucking profit, right?
It depends. What car, too?
Yeah, I've got cars.
It's not by models, by brands.
So, if you sell one Ferrari, I'll give you an example.
Let's start from cheapest or most expensive?
What?
How do you want your head to work out?
So how many cars does Mercedes have to sell
to equal one Ferrari?
Mercedes?
Yeah, how many cars?
It was metal.
What model?
It's by brands.
Five.
So that gives it that...
No, the security's on the right track there,
because Mercedes do sell a lot of cars.
Yeah, see, so what's Saudi work done now?
It's class.
Yeah, that's right.
So, I'll give you an example.
So, Mercedes has to sell 47 Mercs,
47 Mercs to equal the profit of one Ferrari.
The profit?
You're not the cost of it, the profit.
Profit, okay.
Profit.
That can help.
It gives you context, all right.
Okay.
Fuck.
But then, so now you've got the Mercedes sort of level.
So, there's two car makers that still have to sell
less cars to equal...
Loud Bagini.
Yeah, it doesn't have some of this.
That's the Martin.
Let's go to Porsche.
Okay.
All right.
Porsche's 24 cars.
Really?
So, Porsche have to sell...
Yeah, but hang on.
Not model Ferraris,
because there's a $2 million Ferrari,
there's a $2.
They're talking average, right?
Yeah, well, same with the Porsche.
Fuck.
There's a $1,000 Ferrari sold a year.
They're all Ferraris.
Is there only $11,000?
So, $11,000 times four.
So, let's go to the top end, the other end.
How many cars does Geely have to sell?
I've got one of them here.
What's Geely?
What's a Geely?
It's a Chinese.
Chinese, I've got one here.
We're trying to buy bloody parts for it.
Oh, sorry.
They've got the fucking car.
Sorry, I've got to swear for it.
They've got the fucking cars here,
but they don't have the parts.
And all that I'm after is door molds.
Oh, sorry.
So, you bring up everyone who's selling them.
Sorry, we haven't got them.
Sorry, we're not set up for them yet.
So, bring the car here with no parts.
And then, of six months,
what?
So, what do I do with my Geely?
What?
What's a Geely up?
Fuck it, it's a Chinese car.
It's out there, it's out there.
I'll show you this.
All right.
So, 47 Mercedes, that's what we're going to use that for.
How many BMWs?
47.
58.
Okay, 58.
58.
Now, this is funny.
How many Hyundai's?
Wow, 100?
59.
What?
So, that must be making a lot of money on the windows.
They cost them nothing to make.
Yeah, that's...
Oh, so you're going to remember
to know that pays at the factory.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, now let's go to Ford.
How many Fords do they have to sell?
38.
100, 673.
That tells you that there's no profit in fucking Fords.
Fuck.
What if they want to sell it?
Yeah, if they're selling it for $606,
yeah, Fords versus Mitsubishi, 330.
Fuck.
And now all these cars around...
Toyota.
What's Toyota?
They're all the next cars.
Fuck.
Toyota's on the list.
Oh, yes it is.
Okay, so Hyundai was 59.
Tesla was 62.
Isuzu, 62.
Fuck.
So these are the more profitable car companies.
Tesla, 64.
I mean, Toyota.
Toyota's 70.
70, okay.
General Motors 69.
General Motors compared to Ford.
Ford's 600.
General Motors 69 cars for each Ferrari.
So that means they make a good profit.
Yeah, big profit.
BYD, 113.
Fuck.
And then you've got Volkswagen 116,
Suzuki 120, Subaru 120,
Hyundai 130.
It's a big difference.
One car to one.
That goes to show you over the years
they stuck to their guns, Ferrari.
Ferrari on the top, more than 7,000.
They've gone to 11,000 in the year.
That was their top.
They could sell more.
Ferrari now to make enough cars
to have enough demand,
they could do one more.
But the worst car, well...
What is it?
This company has to sell 6,667 Leap motor.
Stop trying to eat.
They're gonna sell 6,600 cars
to a good-die Ferrari.
What is it?
Leap motor.
Leap, not leaf, leap.
Leap motor.
Interesting article.
So, in JLR, 23.
So, Range Rover, Land Rover.
23.
23 cars, none of this.
That's a high.
I still can't believe, in the hundreds,
like to four.
I can't believe Porsche 24 cars
to match for one Ferrari profit.
And I can't believe 604 versus 604.
You think about it,
Ferrari, like this day and age,
it wouldn't cost them that much to build a car
because they've got it all in-house.
Right, they've already spent the...
Yes and no.
In-house means you're gonna...
Are in debt.
You're gonna make it.
But surely, it wasn't like it was once
where everything was handmade, though.
No.
You still get automation, you still get...
They probably say they change models every bloody year
and that means parts,
you have to keep the parts for all those cars.
Not the guts.
I reckon the engines and all the...
Yeah, the mechanical, they're the same thing.
Mechanics, electrical, that, but...
Remember, a lot of cars share the same parts.
Parts.
Like, Bugatti, you know, you hear the stories.
Is it Bugatti or is it...
Bugatti...
Who has the same blinker?
It's a Lamborghini.
Ferrari had the BMW window switches.
Which is, yeah, it's...
They all share a lot of common...
Especially underneath, Bosch.
Like, a lot of electronics, all the safety, the ABS.
That's right.
Yeah, like...
It's like a headlight, for instance.
See this, but...
You know, they can't see.
There's a box underneath the table here.
Right?
That box has got no manufacturer on it.
But it's cheap.
That's $450.
The box with the same headlight in it,
we've just Bosch on it, is $350.
Was it from the same place?
So was it cheap with a Bosch?
No, because I got it through Bosch
or someone who parallel, you know what I mean?
So there's no middle one.
Where the other one that's going to, say, Mercedes,
or this V-Dub, by the way, this one,
has got a V-Dub box.
Oh, yes, so they put their markup on it.
They've marked up on it.
Yeah, they put their own markup.
That's exactly right.
It's like, scored that, like all the V-Dubs, isn't it?
Remember I had the A-Class, the A190, it's 20 years ago,
and they put a Peugeot style of motor in it.
It's the same style of motor out,
but it was a quarter of the price to Mercedes.
Yeah, that's how it is.
And my brother goes, who's gonna know?
I go, what the fuck are you doing?
You're putting a Peugeot.
That's how it is.
He goes, no one's gonna know.
It's the same thing.
Same button number.
Yeah, same partner.
It's like that guy who, in wherever he is,
who brought the Bugatti smashed
and is rebuilding it against Bugatti's wishes.
Well, if Bugatti had a brain that would have brought the car,
but I think they get more publicity out of it than anything.
And everything on it's got a partner,
but he's finding everything slowly.
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah, but the band did it all over the world, that car.
Ah, take it out of track, though,
or you can say you own it.
Subtle buy off him.
But Gatti's, you can't register him here,
but there's a few of them here.
Like a lot of it's the latest,
like a lot of the Maserati's got Chrysler parts,
or the Nav was from Chrysler originally.
Yeah, because remember,
a lot of them were married up at some stage.
Like V-Dub and, I can't remember how all the brands
are the same, you know, the Chrysler.
Well, the Chrysler was Mercedes for a while.
Yeah, yeah, there's...
You know, and it just vice versa.
Like the Merck's...
The Challenger's an E-Class platform.
Yeah, the Merck's got the full...
So what are you doing, Councilor Frank?
What are you doing, mate?
Ah, don't know, mate.
Well, we're on these electric cars,
that, well, that's how it's a Councilor you're for.
They heavily invest in electric cars.
Yeah, we've got a lot of electric cars.
How's that all going?
Well, you know, a lot of people have, like, range.
What's the word I'm looking for?
Anxiety. Anxiety, it's exactly right.
I took one out not long ago.
You had a leg.
No? You had a leg.
No, I had a... It was a hybrid.
Oh, I... I had a hybrid.
You'd make no...
I don't know why you didn't go electric, you know?
But Council's got charges.
They do, they do.
So when the cars come back, they plug them in.
Of course. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, but still...
Is it Kairos or was it...?
No, they get used.
They're constantly on the road, so...
Need to wash them.
You've got to say something about reliability.
They're good. They're alive.
Need to wash them.
But they...
Need to wash.
They do need to be washed.
Got the contract that they can only love.
Yes, yes, yes.
No comment.
Don't cancel, are you?
No, no, no.
Blue Mountains.
Yeah, yeah.
So we're far away.
That Council's in New Zealand, do they?
They do, they do.
You'd be surprised.
And that's not Frank's real voice.
We've changed the world.
It's called Bill Good.
And that's not his real name either.
Yeah, yeah, that's that.
Hey, Geoff.
Bill would catch the border all over the world.
Sorry.
But his voice is deep.
Yeah, I know.
Yeah, they hear the voice.
That's right.
It's a cigarette.
Yeah, it's a cigarette.
Bill will catch all he's got are Teslas.
Is that Teslas?
That's it.
Yeah, they do.
Some Councils use Teslas as standards.
Yeah.
I've seen home dies.
You've got Maionics, haven't you?
We've got...
Yeah, we've got...
There's a couple.
We've got Leaves.
Leaves.
Leaves, yeah.
We've got the home dies.
Listen, Leaves.
Yeah, you can actually see the battery level drop as you're driving.
Yeah, yeah, they're bad.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But there's a lot of home dies.
Every battery company has got...
It's a lemon.
Oh, yeah.
I don't care.
Yeah, but now they've got the new technology.
I think the Germans are starting with the new batteries.
You know what's going to happen?
Ten minutes.
You know how people put in V8s and put in...
You buy a 15-year-old EV, I reckon,
and you can do a battery swap and soup it up
and have a brand new battery,
which is triple the power that the original car has.
Yeah, I never thought of that.
Yeah, they'll just do a battery swap.
Yeah, it'll happen.
Yeah, but the cost.
See?
Yeah, but another new technology of batteries is...
Yeah, but you brought the car for nothing.
Yeah, you brought the car for nothing.
So, you know, if the cars would say,
to buy a new one, 30 grand,
you brought the car for five grand
because the batteries are fucked, right?
And then you're going to invest, say, 10 grand in it,
and you've got a car that's faster and more reliable
than it was when it was new.
And more range.
It's a hardcore.
Oh, yeah.
This is going to be interesting.
Look, if you had an old phone and you put a new battery
and how much more...
Yeah.
Like it lasts the day.
Yeah, but I don't think we're going to cop it.
I think our kids will discover that.
Our kids' kids.
Yeah, well, a lot of these electric cars
are coming under 10, 15 years old now, aren't they?
Well, can I say that?
The Priuses.
The Priuses.
The Priuses are still going.
They're still going.
Yeah, but they're hybrid.
Yeah, but they've got battery technology
and they haven't been able to change it.
And they use them as cabs, too.
Now, Tiana's got the hybrid technology down the path.
They're on the road.
They've got the hydrogen now.
They're on the right track.
I truly think hydrogen is going to be in the way they go.
Hydrogen is better for the car.
Yeah, but there's not enough stations yet.
There's not enough stations.
The infrastructure is expensive,
but the output of water out of the exhaust,
it's a smarter way to operate a vehicle.
We just don't have the infrastructure.
I said this once before we talked about something.
Remember the man that invented the engine that ran off sea water?
Here we go.
Do you remember that?
No, I haven't heard about that.
Shell bought him out or something.
No, he was offered.
It's not an urban myth, right?
This is a true story.
True story.
So the oil companies went to him to buy.
No, I'm going to introduce this technology to fuck you all up.
They killed him.
He disappeared.
He disappeared and then the plants disappeared,
then everything disappeared.
He disappeared.
Never heard of it.
You know they had electric cars back in the 40s?
There was a Greek guy that done the electric car in there.
He's gone as well.
Yeah, but they had electric cars in the 40s.
If you start googling, you go far back and you find out
they had electric cars back in the 40s.
The 1927, they had batteries.
Surely it could have been developed from the 40s.
Yeah, but they got brought out or they got locked in a vault.
They were swimming with the fishes.
Yeah, swimming with the fishes in his sea water.
That's right.
But that's true.
But sometimes I believe in stories.
It's true.
Because I looked up once for the plastic island.
Yes, okay.
The plastic island is true.
That is true.
That is true in the world.
We're all the currents.
We're all the plastic.
Yeah, that's right.
But he has come up with some beauties.
Oh no, the plastic island.
No, hang on.
Hey, if you were bloody shipwrecked on the island,
wouldn't you want a plastic bottle to rock up on the ocean?
You're behaving like I'm cooking fish.
You don't want to fire the plastic.
No, you can do that trick with the plastic.
So the dissipation, how do you say it?
Right?
Dripped to fresh water.
Tell me the what?
Dripped to fresh water into the bucket.
So you can drink water.
If we get stuck on the island,
you just better hope you get stuck with me.
I want to get stuck with you.
That's right.
Especially after seeing your water pass.
No, you know, hey, let me tell you.
If you get stuck on an island or the world goes to the coast,
you know how you want to be with?
Cause.
You know, Frank's going to get stuck.
It's like really 20, 27 in Vegas in a year.
Well, yeah.
All right.
Well, we'll wait and see.
You want to be stuck with cause,
heading to someone's property.
I can't say the name.
Heading to someone's property.
Cause that property has got food in it.
Okay.
To last for years.
Okay.
So you want to be with cause.
I was a bunker.
He knows each property.
He doesn't know.
I know.
It's got food for life or stuff like that.
Packed food, right?
You want to be with cause cause he could shoot
and kill anything.
Cause he's a hunter and can live in the forest.
And you want to head to that person who I'm talking about house,
which is a fair bit of a drive, but it's a way.
But you've got to make it there.
Do an explanation of how his brain works.
Why?
Please try.
Try.
Where were you born again?
Adelaide.
That's it.
That's it.
Case closed.
Cause I'm heading there tomorrow.
You're going there tomorrow too.
Yes, I am.
What's happening there tomorrow?
I've got a, uh, an engagement on Saturday night.
There's a small number of people now.
I'm just a few of the locals.
450.
450.
Yes.
How the, like, fuck.
He could swear.
I don't know.
Like I thought I was bad with 700 at my wedding.
Because a.
How many people at my wedding?
708 people.
So how many did you have at your engagement then?
I was a big shot man.
180.
Oh, what?
Yeah.
You want me to get them on the phone?
You want me to get them on the phone and ask for the difference?
I don't know.
Maybe the wedding's going to be smaller.
The wedding's going to be smaller.
I don't know how it works.
The presents now have to pay for the wedding.
I don't know.
I don't know how well I just got the garlics killing me.
Is it in the farm?
Where's the party at?
Mate, they don't live in the sticks in Adelaide.
In a hall.
I've been Adelaide once.
Yeah.
I know.
We went to Adelaide together to buy a Ferrari.
And I got sucked into driving back in it.
Sucked into it.
And I always wanted to drive.
But no.
They looked at each other like lovers saying.
He had three chairs coming back from Adelaide to himself in the plane.
The voice of an older woman.
And I had a noisy Ferrari with one licked jacket that licked exhaust fuel.
Mate, we died.
What do you mean?
Well, I couldn't hear for a week.
My ears were ringing.
I couldn't sleep because I couldn't put the seats back.
That car, that drive back killed me.
Honestly.
And you're still friends, right?
No, no, no, brother.
Because it's brother.
I could drive.
I could tell that someone's tired.
And I'd drive and drive to the way.
He's brother George got into the driver's seat.
Start driving.
It was good for about half an hour.
Then all of a sudden you could hear the thing.
Window going down or...
Window radio playing stations.
And you know, they're tired.
Because I've been driving all my life.
We used to drive and have a contest.
You could get to Adelaide the fastest by driving and all that.
And now suddenly...
And you really just took a wrong turn as well.
Yeah.
We went through a town.
And there was these red necks all in town.
And this Ferrari had an exhaust on it.
And we're in a Ferrari red.
Driving through.
Chuck, are you here?
Drive back.
And they're on the side road.
We're thinking, if they get out on the road,
what are we going to do?
Just run them over and go.
But that was no bull.
We got back at peak hour traffic the next morning.
My ears were ringing for a week.
That was the very...
I think that was the last drive I've ever driven.
That's right.
You were going to text wake me up when I was...
Yeah, yeah.
When you were a bit nice and comfortable.
I did catch the train by myself.
I used to have a trick.
Because we used to do a lot of either Queensland driving or Adelaide and all that.
We used to have a trick where we used to put Mars bars on the dash.
In the Ferrari, because we were so fucking cold,
we had one jump where you either cover yourself with it or use it as a pillow.
We pick up the Mars bars off the dash.
And they're like...
There's like a milkshake in it.
So we'll just get punished every which way.
And I was wearing a jacket.
I couldn't give them my jacket, I forgot.
And he checked us all in?
No, no, you already checked in.
I didn't tell them the plane wasn't going to leave.
And they yelled out Tom's name and George's name was George.
And I said, I don't think they're going to make it.
They just texted me.
Well, they could have told us earlier.
Close the doors.
I had a whole row.
I didn't want to lose the whole row.
And we had one jacket.
It was just a hard drive.
The noise coming from that freaking thing.
But you always wanted to do it.
What a hard life.
Driving a Ferrari through the states.
We used to race from Queensland in landbases of Ferraris.
When our friend used to have them.
You know?
Rents about.
I'm driving to Melbourne next week.
So I did a bit of a road trip as well.
I'll fall asleep on sets of lights.
I'll see how many times...
Because it's a self-steering.
You want to see how a lot of...
Is it going to steer itself there?
Yeah, it will.
Because we're not full of sleep.
It's going to have to steer.
No, is that self-steering that car?
Yeah, but you've got to have your hand on it.
Yeah, but didn't they bring out a room where you can set it up now
and self-steer it?
I don't know.
Set one up, man.
Now I've got to do this.
Yeah, but you fall asleep a lot.
I know.
So I'm going to hold my hands on the steering wheel.
Is that the beamer?
Yeah.
I've tried that in mine.
The Merc's good.
It does it beautifully.
Because I had a CLS.
It does it beautifully?
And it was the best.
Like, I get to do a lot of them, right?
Some are completely frickin' shithouse.
You know, they violently jerk.
There's a couple of Merc's.
I look at it and I remember which one's.
Honestly.
Fucking beautiful.
And you know, I don't know if yours does it.
Under, say, 30K's or if you're in like...
What do you call it?
Bump of the bumper traffic.
And you don't have to even touch the exhaust, right?
No, it does it by itself.
Yeah, I'll say yours.
Mine does it, yeah.
Yeah, well I only discovered that once going to Sanderson's in one of their cars.
And it was early.
Stuck along Moore Park, that thing.
Didn't have to touch it for ages.
Yeah, the only problem here is some people cut in front of you
because they leave a bit of a gap.
That's what shits me.
But the Volkswagen group, when we had the Passat,
and then with her little in his A7, I said,
try it.
If you've got the DISTRONIC setup,
and this prick, I remember the guy, I still picture this car.
He would have moved to the left lane.
There's no cars on the freeway.
He's in the overtaking lane.
So I had the cruise set at 120 odd.
So I grabbed the left lane,
and then the car just stopped.
It would not undertake the DISTRONIC,
not the self-drive.
That steered by itself as well.
But the cruise control knew it was going to undertake
and it wouldn't accelerate.
Yeah, but there's nothing wrong with that if it's a marked road.
Yeah, I know.
But it knew.
Oh.
So the Audi's and the Volkswagen's do that.
It doesn't undertake where the Merck and the Beaver's.
You said it 120 will fly past.
Well, the only thing I've ever had a problem with
is with, what's that bridge that opens up?
A split bridge?
Yeah, yes.
There was an aluminium balloon once floating down,
and it floated in front and the car just slammed its brakes on.
Oh, auto style.
Yeah.
That's the only problem I've ever had.
I used to drive a Liberty.
All right.
And that cruise hated roundabouts.
I'm approaching a roundabout and it slammed the anchors on.
It doesn't know where it's going.
It thought it was going to hit something because it knew
there was something directing in front of it
and it didn't know it was going to turn right on.
So do you let your car brake itself?
Yeah.
On the freeways?
Yeah.
Yeah.
But have you ever like, you know, when you're...
I've gotten scared a few times.
Yeah.
Off-ramp.
Right.
And the, you know, the off-ramp.
So you're doing 110 and you're off the off-ramp.
You're still doing 110 and you can see the car's all parked
on the bottom.
What do you do?
Are they going to stop?
It's going to stop violently.
And I hit the brakes there.
Yeah.
See?
So, ah.
But it stops.
Are you taking the literally interpretation of not using the brakes?
I'll fuck it freeway though.
No, no, no.
But you get what I mean?
Because the first time I done it was probably in Fitos's van.
You were in it.
Yeah.
Okay.
Oh, really?
The first time was in Fitos's van.
Oh.
And they had to know.
And it trusted, trusted, trusted.
And it took me a while to trust them.
And so I do trust them now.
But I've always got my head, I've come up to like King George's Road.
Fast coming out of the M8 or the M5.
And the traffic up there.
And you can see the traffic, it's all stopped.
You're doing 100 or 90 k's and you're thinking yourself,
Is it going to stop?
Is it going to stop?
Or the distance?
The stop when you're closer.
Remember, you've set, yeah, but it's a violence.
It's got to be a violent stop.
It does.
Sometimes it does.
But it does.
Well, the Tesla used to spook itself with the shadow under the bridge on the freeway.
So it hit the brake thinking something there.
Have you ever seen the other thing on TikTok with the Tesla in the cemetery?
And it can see people walking around?
Are you?
It's like the glass moving on the table by itself.
The GLC when I got it.
Did you get the apple too?
The GLC when I got it, remember?
And I went on the M4 and just slammed the brake.
Because then there was a tunnel there.
The A35 did that too on the UNA, the brakes.
But the worst was last week when I went to Brewera and there was kangaroos.
The car was just slamming the brake, slamming the brake.
So I had to take it off.
Was it dead?
No.
Try to jump it across.
But what do you want to hit them for?
What do you turn it off for?
You hit the kangaroo once.
We leave him one.
20 of them.
Was the kangaroo alive on the side of the road?
No.
They're jumping to cross.
What the fuck?
Where are you at the zoo?
The Wagga Zoo?
Have you been at Brewera enough before?
No.
Well, when you go to Ningen, yeah.
They'll be waving you.
No.
They're sitting there.
They're sitting there.
And then once you come close, you just jump to front.
Yeah.
To die.
What for insurance?
You want a suicide?
Wait, wait.
We never had that stuff.
About three years.
There's so many kangaroos.
There's so many kangaroos.
About three years ago, about 345 years ago.
My tick went on in your leaf.
So I got his Navarro with a bull bar.
And I went to Burke.
And I must have killed about 20 of them.
And I videoed it.
He always says, tak, tok, tok.
So they can really do suicide.
Yes.
They're ready on the side of the road to jump.
Brewera does that bad.
But the kangaroos.
Everywhere.
How do you think the kangaroos get run over?
They're sitting there.
And they see you coming.
And there's a jump in front of you.
Anything to get out of that sound.
Serious.
What do they do?
Suicide.
Yeah, they want to suicide.
They're sick of the title of the fact.
Do you reckon they're hopping mad?
And we leave one my race for probably last year.
Me and Rick in the camp are behind pitos in the yard.
And he fucking runs right into one, smashes it.
He running to me, you mean?
Yeah.
Is it another suicide kangaroo?
Were they strapped with explosives?
They're dumb.
Ah, okay.
But we keep on hitting them.
Mate, those semi trailers, you know, with the big bullbars.
Yeah, okay.
My mate Anthony, Western Australia came to South Australia
and bought a car two weeks ago.
He drove 30 hours nonstop back to Western Australia.
Fuck me.
And everywhere.
From Adelaide to Western Australia.
He records a truck.
He's told him he's crazy for driving a night.
But if you're going to do it, stay behind the truckies.
Was there like a...
Yeah, and they will help you.
And they did.
So what was the danger?
The suicide kangaroos?
Yeah.
And he could hear it.
Every now and then, he would see it.
Or he would see...
The truck would blow its horn.
Because they're coming up to like 20 of them or something,
you know, problem.
But he survived.
Made it all like, I mean, crazy ant.
Watch it dry.
He goes, mate, we just had enough.
We just wanted to get back.
But every time they would leave a truck,
they would find another one and get by.
And the truck driver's aware of what they're doing.
There's a lot of cars damaged on the road,
you know, from the kangaroos.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Fuck.
That was suicide of kangaroos.
So no one would...
It's had enough.
That's just...
They've had enough.
I've been mad.
Yeah.
That bitch left me for that guy.
I'll tell my text what it is,
but I can't see it on the microphone.
What?
What?
Say it.
Say it.
Say it.
Oh.
Well, I bridged you now.
What?
We're not racist.
That could be great.
We're from New Zealand.
Well, they don't like...
There's a lot of suicide.
They're dumb.
You know what they call...
Oh, better stop.
About a month ago...
No, I was going to stop.
A couple of months ago, we were with Darren again
with Astaria, the Hyundai van.
We're going this way towards Burke.
And the truck was coming this way.
We're on radio A.
So we're going this way or that way.
Anyway...
So you were going one way.
The truck was coming towards you.
So he jumps in front of the truck.
He misses it.
Then he comes right in front of us.
Look, the most scariest time I've ever had...
He brought everything in the front.
He's with my cousin, Sam, in Adelaide.
We just finished after three years,
his two-door Minaro.
And we're driving up back to Adelaide.
He wouldn't even let me drive.
He was that paranoid.
This thing was painted inside, outside, underneath, everything.
We're behind a truck.
And they'd always ask me,
go for it.
And that would mean to overtake.
And just to say yes,
this red kangaroo, massive, slides out
because it got scared of the truck,
starts bouncing, bouncing, bouncing,
then come back towards us
and just missed our quarter panel and all that.
You know, and we're talking massive.
Some of the kangaroos...
They're all muscles.
They destroy the car.
All muscles, no grains.
I got stuck.
I ran off two cars.
From kangaroos?
Yeah.
Ranger and that...
So more at night or day?
When it starts getting dark.
In the night.
Dusk?
Yeah.
And they don't hold them, remember?
They hold them in a little station wagon.
It's a small country town.
The main throughout of Melbourne, in Brisbane,
I've never heard the kangaroos attack on...
Yeah, yeah.
They're fucking everywhere.
But if you go on the road there,
there's about a million kangaroos dead on the side.
Do you remember that at Bathurst,
we were on to get to the top of the hill?
We went a back way.
And the road...
No, Bull, it looked like it was a...
a city road where there's kangaroos all over the place.
What kind of kangaroos do you see?
How many are there?
No, rabbits in Canberra.
Again, kangaroos.
Rabbits in the middle of it.
How big are the rabbits?
Are they dangerous too?
No, there's a million rabbits in Canberra.
Yeah, but they don't kill the car.
Rabbits?
No, no, no.
But there's a lot of kangaroos there too.
Big ones.
Around Mount Ainsley with the...
Yeah.
With the...
The ones in Canberra, the joints.
Yeah.
Well, on that road to Galkon and...
At Bruce.
Oh, I know.
There's a lot of rabbits there.
Rabbits.
Rabbits, everywhere.
There's rabbits.
You're picking up rabbits.
You know what I want to do?
I want to tattoo rabbits on my head.
Why?
Why?
Because from a distance, they're going to look like he's...
Oh, there he is.
Oh, there he is.
There he is.
There he is.
Did I say the one with the scapegoat on the award?
No.
Did you hear the scapegoat on the award?
No, please tell us.
He was outstanding in his field.
See all my jokes are racist.
Yeah, they're probably involved virgins.
Yeah, so I can't say my jokes.
Well, we might leave it there.
Yes, yes.
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That's it.
That's it.
Bye.
Bye.
You're in a hurry.
That's good.
That's suicidal kangaroo.
I'm going to go home and pack.
Oh, yeah.
What are you going to pack?
A suit.
No.
What are you wearing now?
I don't even know.
Fongs.
Fongs.
Fongs and a skibby.
A skibby.
It's going to be cold there.
It's going to get cold.
Is Adelaide Airport the only place we can hire a ute?
A ute?
Yeah.
I've made a ute for Adelaide, thanks.
No?
No?
I don't know.
What?
Don't they drop utes in Adelaide?
No.
They drop all utes here.
Oh.
You know it's a proper suburb, a town.
Adelaide?
Adelaide.
Yeah.
It's not full of bread necks.
What, they've got cartons on the street?
Yes, they have.
Are you serious?
Yes, yes.
You've been there.
Don't worry.
You've been there?
Where'd it go to a car?
Remember?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Remember our lunch date?
Yeah.
I was with a happy passenger.
We were security young.
Yeah.
No, I'm talking about my lunch date.
Your lunch date?
We missed all the popcorns and we got the last one.
The girl that was happy to keep the Ferrari in the car.
Yeah, in the garage.
In 10 days.
Yeah, we went to lunch with a lady and a daughter.
The dilemma was, for my brother, do I keep the car here for 10 days to get it shipped
or do we drive it now?
All right.
And the young girl was like, you can leave the car.
Why are my garages empty?
And George was like, just shake it his head.
We did it, but maybe I wish we did, but anyway, we didn't.
The car came to Sydney.
All right.
That's it.
Yeah.
Good night.
The security's already there.
Yeah, he's gone.
He's gone.
I'll be there.
Here he comes.
Here he comes.
Anyway, see yous later.
Bye.
Bye.
Fuck this is why they're working.
They're working.
They're working.
They're working.
They're working.
Let him five these nice whizzes it.
Let's get it.
See.
About this episode
Conversation swings from Mercedes and BMW shopping to bodywork and driver-assist quirks, then lands on the episode’s “suicidal kangaroos” theme. They discuss painting a damaged “chippy front end,” stripping the whole front end, and a squeaky roof fix. Later, they compare self-steering and adaptive cruise behavior, including unwanted hard braking triggered by shadows and kangaroos. The hosts also get into EV battery swap ideas, hydrogen station limits, and a lot of brand-profit “sales math.”
Original notes
Peter, Tom and Security are joined by friend of the show Frank. Frank works for a local council and talks about the shift to full EV's by Local Councils. Tom stopped liking someone because of the smell of her car. Peter discusses how many cars each car make has to sell to equal the profit of one Ferrari sale. Security talks about the rate of suicides by kangaroos on the highways.
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