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#2636: In Praise of Cleveland

#2636: In Praise of Cleveland

The Best of Car Talk May 05, 2026 35 min
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About this episode

The show jumps from a playful parody of a 1952-car reality concept to a string of practical repair calls, including a Ford Escort with a whirring noise at one narrow RPM band and a Ford Ranger that may simply be overinflated and bouncing. It also covers a leaking Oldsmobile power-steering system, a punishing 5,000-mile Suburban road trip, and a later Suburban hesitation problem that points toward sensor trouble and proper scanning. Along the way, the hosts detour into Cleveland jokes and a disturbing repair-scam news story.

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Concept

1952 Car

"“Well, we have a concept here for a similar show and it's called not 1900 House but 1952 Car.” “You want to see? Well, what would happen if a typical American family tried to live life the way they did in 1952 in an authentic 1952 car?”"

They’re making up a funny show idea: what if a family today had to live like it was 1952, but using a car from that era. The point is to highlight how different old cars feel compared to today’s cars.

Car

1952 MGTD

"Which we happen to have, we happen to have a 1952 MGTD, right? So here's a brief synopsis of the first season, episode one. While the family watches, chief mechanic Vinny Gumbatz prepares the MG..."

They’re talking about a 1952 MG TD, which is an old-school MG sports car. The point is to keep everything feeling like the 1950s.

Term

top speed

"Bad news, it's because MG's top speed of 28 miles an hour creates a 1500 mile traffic style during evening rush hour."

Top speed means the highest speed the car can go. They’re joking that because this car is slow, it would cause big slowdowns in traffic.

Term

engine

"Episode four, the father son born in the episode. Yes, my favorite. Tommy teaches his son how to repair a 1952 engine."

The engine is the part that makes the car run. In this bit, they’re joking that the kid learns how to fix the engine.

Car

Ford Escort

"All right, here's the deal. I have a 92 Ford Escort with about 55,000 miles. My son and I have noticed the car has a whirring noise, kind of a like when you used to put a baseball card in a..."

They’re talking about a 1992 Ford Escort. The important clue is that the sound happens at certain engine speeds, which helps narrow down what part might be making the noise.

Term

RPM

"Right. Now, it only occurs, though, at 1400 RPM. At 13, it stops. When you go beyond the 14, it stops."

RPM means how fast the engine is spinning. If the sound only shows up at one RPM, it can help figure out which moving part is responsible.

Term

sympathetic vibration

"[332.7s] sure that has something to do with it but i think the overriding thing is that the engine is cold [339.0s] and you're in a confined space i think we have here a case of a sympathetic vibration is that [345.2s] well i feel i feel a certain i think the connection with your vibration too"

Sometimes one vibrating thing makes another thing vibrate too, even if it’s not directly connected. In a car, the engine can shake loose or nearby parts, and they start rattling at specific RPMs.

Term

forced undamped harmonic motion

"[345.2s] well i feel i feel a certain i think the connection with your vibration too this is a simple 801 [350.8s] issue oh is it 801 is the freshman physics course at mit my brother knows because he took it four [357.6s] times right and we might have some forced undamped harmonic motion yeah you you have a"

It’s a fancy way of saying something keeps getting pushed to vibrate, and it doesn’t quickly calm down. In a car, engine shake can keep a loose part rattling until the vibration frequency changes.

Term

heat shields

"[363.4s] you you have a [369.4s] loose uh piece of sheet metal that's vibrating that's vibrating and this piece of sheet metal [375.0s] is located in the vicinity of the exhaust system uh and usually these things are called heat shields"

Heat shields are protective metal covers near the exhaust that keep heat from damaging other parts. If one gets loose, it can buzz or rattle like a loose tin can.

Car

Ford Ranger

"my problem is cleveland and and so like i have a 93 ford ranger yeah and i moved here two years ago and now my ranger feels every bump in the road"

A Ford Ranger is a pickup truck. The caller is saying their 1993 Ranger rides rougher on the new roads after they moved.

Part

shocks

"so i saw a commercial on tv get your shocks replaced and you'll have a smooth ride and i got my back shocks replaced and nothing's changed"

Shocks are parts that help your car settle after it hits a bump. If they’re worn out, the ride can feel rough, and replacing them can make the car feel smoother.

Concept

smooth ride

"so i saw a commercial on tv get your shocks replaced and you'll have a smooth ride and i got my back shocks replaced and nothing's changed"

A “smooth ride” means the car doesn’t bounce or jolt as much when you hit bumps. Suspension parts like shocks help the car handle rough roads more gently.

Topic

Cleveland vs. Los Angeles

"[578.7s] in cleveland are worse than those in la because of the snow that cleveland gets when i hit a bump [584.2s] sometimes i am it is a pickup and it doesn't have the back end fall right sometimes it'll jump over [590.3s] well sure no all pickups will do that especially if you have too much air in the tire exactly that's [597.8s] problem and these guys at the at the shock shop uh maybe replace your shocks even though you didn't [605.0s] need them you know did they offer to check them or you just went in and said i need new shocks [609.9s] yeah you did that yeah i did that that's pretty dumb huh yeah well not as bad as moving the cleveland [624.0s] you're on the hairy edge here yeah so i'm coming to boston is that a good thing yeah that's i mean [629.7s] is the thing okay on the highway yeah it is yeah no i would guess you you have way too much air in [635.1s] your rear tires or maybe even your front tires too so i would check that because it's it's dangerous [639.9s] if there's way too much air a tire could explode and at the very least if there's [644.3s] just a little bit too much air it can make the thing bounce all over the place [647.4s] and make you think that you need shocks yeah go someplace and at least gas station to check it out [652.7s] and don't rely on the thing at the gas station that you crank up you know the thing that goes ding [656.6s] ding ding you need to have someone check it with a bonafide tire pressure gauge see if you can find [661.7s] a gas station that doesn't just sell uh maritos that has actually like a mechanic in it that will [669.2s] come out with his own we sell all kinds of gas and have someone check it it would be nice and if [677.7s] if the guy's got five minutes and he could check out your front end and your suspension in general [682.8s] that would be nice too oh well great well thanks a lot see you mary bye bye bye she wasn't exactly a [688.7s] proponent of cleveland she wasn't on the chamber no she won't be on the brochure right [695.7s] well marion moved here from la she thinks it's boring on a truck is giving her truck well you [701.8s] gotta admit i mean after living in la almost any place would be boring wouldn't it i mean [706.8s] la is like hopping sunshine sunshine sunshine earthquakes i mean all the things that's going [713.9s] for it floods you know mudslides you know fire wildfires i mean there's stuff going on there man [722.2s] there's stuff going on looting riots i mean you name it la's got it [728.4s] come to cleveland it's like you know yeah too predictable so that's what she misses you know"

They compare Cleveland and Los Angeles and how different weather can change how a car feels on the road. That leads into a discussion about what to check when the ride feels wrong.

Term

air in the tire

"well sure no all pickups will do that especially if you have too much air in the tire exactly that's [597.8s] problem and these guys at the at the shock shop uh maybe replace your shocks even though you didn't [605.0s] need them you know did they offer to check them or you just went in and said i need new shocks [609.9s] yeah you did that yeah i did that that's pretty dumb huh yeah well not as bad as moving the cleveland [624.0s] you're on the hairy edge here yeah so i'm coming to boston is that a good thing yeah that's i mean [629.7s] is the thing okay on the highway yeah it is yeah no i would guess you you have way too much air in [635.1s] your rear tires or maybe even your front tires too so i would check that because it's it's dangerous [639.9s] if there's way too much air a tire could explode"

Tire air pressure changes how the tire grips and how smooth the ride feels. If it’s too high, the truck can bounce around and feel unsafe.

Car

Lucid Air

"...kups will do that especially if you have too much air in the tire exactly that's problem and these guy..."

The Lucid Air is a fully electric car, meaning it runs on a battery instead of gasoline. Because it’s electric, it uses sensors and computer-controlled systems to manage things like driving and safety. If it’s mentioned in a tire-pressure or warning-related context, it’s usually because the car is detecting an issue and alerting the driver.

Term

tire pressure gauge

"and don't rely on the thing at the gas station that you crank up you know the thing that goes ding [656.6s] ding ding you need to have someone check it with a bonafide tire pressure gauge see if you can find [661.7s] a gas station that doesn't just sell uh maritos that has actually like a mechanic in it that will [669.2s] come out with his own we sell all kinds of gas and have someone check it"

A tire pressure gauge is a device that tells you how much air is actually in your tires. It’s important because the wrong amount of air can make the ride unsafe.

Term

suspension

"and if [677.7s] if the guy's got five minutes and he could check out your front end and your suspension in general [682.8s] that would be nice too oh well great well thanks a lot see you mary bye bye bye she wasn't exactly a [688.7s] proponent of cleveland she wasn't on the chamber no she won't be on the brochure right"

Suspension is what helps your truck ride smoothly and stay stable over bumps. If something feels bouncy, it could be the suspension—or it could be something like tire pressure.

Concept

car payments

"the scheme was [959.0s] uncovered when a distant relative those damn distant relatives contacted the police [964.6s] of the problem regarding what he thought were car payments he thought she was making car payments [970.6s] and he finds out she's got a 1973 plummet and she's paying four thousand dollars a month"

“Car payments” are the monthly installments someone pays to own a car, usually under an auto loan or lease. In the story, police get involved because the relative believed she was making legitimate car payments, but it turned out to be a repair-billing scheme.

Car

Acura Integra

"...i have a 1995 red acura in tegra and uh... it's doing something really quirky it uh... when it gets to be about 103"

They’re talking about their 1995 Acura Integra. It’s acting weird with the brakes when the car gets hot, especially at red lights.

Part

brake master cylinder

"...tell uh you're pretty sure you're almost positive you're almost positive too that you need a brake master cylinder oh no yeah that sounds expensive"

The brake master cylinder is the part that creates the pressure in your brake system when you press the pedal. If it’s going bad, the brakes can feel weak or act strangely, and heat can make the problem show up more.

Term

brake problem

"[1280.8s] how can a mechanic send away a person who complains of a brake problem the car [1289.2s] won't stop the pedal it's unconscionable brake problems require some kind of repair even if you [1295.2s] don't know exactly what it is do something of course at least you'll be one step closer to [1300.8s] figuring it out and if you do nothing you can't get any closer"

It means something is wrong with the brakes—like they don’t respond the way they should. If the pedal feels wrong or the car won’t slow down properly, it’s not something to ignore.

Car

Oldsmobile Delta 88

"well um i have a old mobile delta 88 um 1988 and 88 88 yes this was dad's car huh it was my father's old mobile so um i recently moved to um an apartment in downtown seattle where i have to park on the street yeah"

They’re talking about their 1988 Oldsmobile Delta 88. It’s the car that started making a bad noise when turning and while parked on a hill.

Term

power steering fluid

"okay continue okay so i drove to my parents house it made a bad noise i took it to um their mechanic um who looked at it and said oh you need to fill it up with power steering fluid right because yeah slow on fluid yeah i like that i like that so i took it to one of those you know quicky yep loop places and they looked at it and it was foamy when they looked at it that's right"

Power steering fluid is the liquid that helps the steering work smoothly. If there isn’t enough of it, or it’s not in good condition, the steering can start making scary noises.

Term

foamy

"so i took it to one of those you know quicky yep loop places and they looked at it and it was foamy when they looked at it that's right and they said you need to flush the system"

“Foamy” means the fluid looked bubbly. That often happens when air gets into the power-steering system, which can make the steering pump sound loud.

Term

flush the system

"and they said you need to flush the system so i said fine flush the system they did and the noise went away yes then about a week later again i was on parked on a hill"

Flushing the system means they drained out the old power-steering fluid and replaced it with new fluid. The goal is to get rid of gunk or trapped air that can make the steering act up.

Term

power steering act was leaking

"and i drove it around for about a week before i did anything about it and i took it to a mechanic who looked at it and said that the power steering act was leaking oh that's why you've lost the fluid and that's why it was foamy because when they"

They’re saying the power-steering system was leaking fluid. When it leaks, the system can run low, suck in air, and start making bad noises.

Term

rack and pinion

"filled it up they didn't bleed the air out etc etc okay so you need a rack and pinion and and and [1704.8s] is it safe to drive as long as you keep putting fluid in it uh and it's not leaking out faster"

Rack-and-pinion is how a car turns the steering wheel into the wheels actually moving left or right. It uses gears inside the steering system to make the steering feel more direct.

Term

power steering conditioner

"okay there was this stuff called [1734.0s] power steering conditioner many companies make it okay i would buy a can of this stuff leave it on [1739.0s] the front seat and at the first hint of of of it needing fluid i.e the noise fill it up with this"

A power steering conditioner is a product you add to the power steering fluid. The idea is it helps the steering system work better and may reduce leaks or noise, but it’s not a substitute for fixing the real problem.

Car

1989 Chevrolet Suburban

"what let me tell you i've got a 1989 [1819.2s] chevrolet suburban and the reason i'm calling is that my wife's family is coming out here to do the [1828.3s] grand tour of the west during the hottest time of year with the highest gas prices"

The 1989 Chevrolet Suburban is a big SUV built for long-distance driving and carrying lots of people. The caller is using it to take a family road trip across several states.

Term

head gasket

"and i blew the head gasket down in italy guys can you imagine how hard it is to fix the truck in [1888.2s] italy when all you speak is a little spanglish spanglish oh you must have been there for a "

The head gasket is a seal inside the engine that keeps fluids and combustion gases where they belong. If it blows, the engine can run poorly and it can be expensive and difficult to fix.

Concept

hesitates

"we're gonna get to the technical part of this call [1977.9s] the truck hesitates it kind of i'll be driving highway speeds 55 to 65 and it hesitates for [1986.6s] absolutely no reason kind of like a hiccup you know you'll feel it when you're driving you'll"

When the car “hesitates,” it doesn’t respond smoothly for a split second. That can feel like a tiny stumble or hiccup while you’re driving.

Term

hiccup

"absolutely no reason kind of like a hiccup you know you'll feel it when you're driving you'll "

Here, “hiccup” means the vehicle briefly stumbles or jerks for a moment. It’s the kind of symptom you feel while driving, even if nothing obvious is wrong.

Term

overdrive

"[1997.1s] comes and goes that's when i'm in overdrive just regular od if i drop it down to uh it's it's next [2003.3s] gear that problem seems to go away"

Overdrive is an extra “higher gear” in an automatic transmission. It helps the engine spin slower when you’re driving normally, which can improve smoothness and fuel economy.

Term

fuel filter

"[2003.3s] gear that problem seems to go away the folks at the chevy dealership told me uh oh it's probably [2010.5s] just your uh your fuel filter or your transmission filter now those things are easy to fix"

The fuel filter is a small part that cleans the gas before it gets to the engine. If it gets clogged, the engine may not get enough clean fuel, and it can run poorly.

Term

transmission filter

"[2003.3s] gear that problem seems to go away the folks at the chevy dealership told me uh oh it's probably [2010.5s] just your uh your fuel filter or your transmission filter now those things are easy to fix"

The transmission filter is like a screen for the transmission fluid. If it gets clogged, the transmission can get dirty fluid and start shifting weirdly.

Term

scanner

"[2015.5s] those both out a while ago and the problem never went away what do y'all think i think you have a [2021.9s] sensor problem someplace i would ask them to put the scanner on this thing"

A scanner is a tool that plugs into the car to read error codes from the computer. It helps mechanics figure out what’s actually wrong instead of guessing.

Term

crank angle sensor

"[2021.9s] sensor problem someplace i would ask them to put the scanner on this thing i think you could [2026.8s] have a bad crank angle sensor crank angle sensor okay"

The crank angle sensor tells the car where the engine crankshaft is and how fast it’s turning. If it’s wrong or failing, the engine can’t time spark and fuel correctly, which can make the car run badly.

Term

ignition module

"[2026.8s] have a bad crank angle sensor crank angle sensor okay uh you could have a bad ignition module all [2033.6s] right but to start guessing at this stuff could be costly"

The ignition module helps control when the engine makes spark. If it goes bad, the engine may misfire or run rough because it’s not getting spark at the right time.

Term

spark plug

"[2039.0s] things or begin to test the individual components this to see if they measure up now could it be [2044.7s] something as silly as i've just got a bad spark plug it could but it would more likely do it"

Spark plugs create the spark that lights the fuel in the engine. If a spark plug is worn or dirty, the engine can misfire and feel like it’s struggling, particularly when you push it.

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