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349: The Agent Wave Is Coming

349: The Agent Wave Is Coming

Automotive Diagnostic Podcast Apr 26, 2026 77 min
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About this episode

The guys dive into how AI “agent” tools are starting to reshape automotive diagnostics and shop operations. Keith Perkins plugs L1training.com for module programming, J2534, EEPROM work, keys/immobilizers, and electrical/drivability diagnostics. PJ and Tommy debate AI’s promise versus risks, then Sean explains Open Claw—an agent harness that can schedule tasks, use tools, and even automate shop workflows like daily job emails and voice-to-knowledge-base drive entries. They also discuss AI’s limits for highly specific repair tasks, growing cybersecurity/scam concerns, and how tech may change education, employment, and even vehicle reliability.

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Company

L1 Automotive Training

"This episode is brought to you by L1 Automotive Training and Keith Perkins. If you're looking for education on module programming, J2534, eProm work, key and immobilizer"

L1 Automotive Training is a training resource for mechanics who want to learn diagnostic and programming skills. The episode mentions it as having lots of videos on the tools and steps used in real repairs.

Company

Keith Perkins

"This episode is brought to you by L1 Automotive Training and Keith Perkins. If you're looking for education on module programming, J2534, eProm work"

Keith Perkins is the person behind the training mentioned in the episode. The host says his videos helped them learn what tools and challenges come up when programming car computers.

Term

J2534

"for education on module programming, J2534, eProm work, key and immobilizer, electrical diagnostics, or drivability diagnostics, Keith has a website L1training.com"

J2534 is a standard that lets a repair shop use a special programming device to talk to a car’s computer. It helps you update or reprogram modules using one common method instead of a brand-specific tool.

Term

module programming

"If you're looking for education on module programming, J2534, eProm work, key and immobilizer, electrical diagnostics, or drivability diagnostics"

Module programming means updating the car’s computer software. Mechanics do it when a module needs a fix, a replacement, or a software update to make the car run correctly.

Term

key and immobilizer

"for education on module programming, J2534, eProm work, key and immobilizer, electrical diagnostics, or drivability diagnostics"

This is the process of making sure your key “matches” the car’s security system. If the immobilizer doesn’t recognize the key, the car may crank but won’t start.

Term

electrical diagnostics

"If you're looking for education on module programming, J2534, eProm work, key and immobilizer, electrical diagnostics, or drivability diagnostics"

Electrical diagnostics means finding problems in the car’s wiring and electrical signals. Instead of guessing, you test circuits and sensors to see where the fault is coming from.

Term

eProm work

"Keith has a website L1training.com that's got over 60 hours of training videos on all those subjects and more. When I first started out doing mobile, I utilized Keith's videos on module programming and J2534"

“eProm work” is about changing or restoring data stored in a memory chip inside a car module. It’s usually a more specialized step when software or security information can’t be handled through normal reprogramming.

Term

drivability diagnostics

"electrical diagnostics, or drivability diagnostics, Keith has a website L1training.com that's got over 60 hours of training videos"

Drivability diagnostics is how you track down “how the car drives” problems—like stuttering, rough running, or not accelerating right. It uses scan tool readings plus real-world testing to find what’s actually wrong.

Concept

Open Claw

"“They launched this open source thing called Open Claw in February… So it's, they call it a harness… it allows the agents to use skills… Use tools… And then it also can schedule them to do things…”"

Open Claw is a software setup that helps an AI assistant do real work. It can connect the AI to tools (like email or files) and set it to run tasks on a schedule.

Concept

AI agent

"“So it's, they call it a harness. And so if you think of like an AI agent, an agent is like, it's like ChadGBT or Claude or Gemini, you know, an LLM, but it can execute on things…”"

An AI agent is like a digital helper that can do tasks for you. Instead of only answering questions, it can actually take actions—like writing something to a folder or sending an email.

Concept

LLM

"“…it's like ChadGBT or Claude or Gemini, you know, an LLM, but it can execute on things…”"

An LLM is an AI model that’s good at understanding and writing language. By itself it mainly talks, but when it’s used inside an “agent,” it can also help carry out tasks.

Concept

scheduling

"“So it's like, I want you to do this calendar report every day at five o'clock and then email it out to all my techs. And it does that.”"

Scheduling means telling the AI to do something at a set time repeatedly. Like “every day at 5 o’clock, make this report and send it out.”

Concept

training it

"“And you have to train it… if you just set an employee loose, they're going to fuck shit up. But if you train them… It learns, it improves…”"

The host emphasizes that these AI agents need training and feedback to behave safely and correctly. The “train an employee” analogy highlights iterative improvement—when the agent makes mistakes, it learns and improves future performance.

Part

ABS module

"...So Steve's got a programming job. It's a used ABS module on a 15 Silverado."

The ABS module is the computer that controls the anti-lock brakes. If you swap in a used one, it usually can’t just be plugged in—there are setup steps so it matches the vehicle.

Term

VCI

"...it sends an email out with everybody's jobs... Here's the laptop that you need. Here's the VCI that you need..."

A VCI is the little device that connects your diagnostic laptop to the car so the software can communicate with the car’s computers. For programming jobs, you usually need the right VCI to make the connection work.

Term

VSP authorization

"...And then saying, Hey, here's what you got... Here's notes about, Hey, these use modules are tricky, or you need two keys for this or needs VSP authorization."

“VSP authorization” refers to an authorization step required by certain OEM or service platforms before performing programming or configuration. It’s often tied to security access, licensing, or proof that the shop is allowed to perform the procedure for that specific module/vehicle.

Term

two keys

"...these use modules are tricky, or you need two keys for this or needs VSP authorization."

Some programming jobs require having the car’s keys available—often more than one—so the car can verify you’re allowed to change settings. If you only have one key, the procedure may not complete.

Concept

VSP forms

"Hey, remember, before you go, we got to double check that this has got VSP, you know, forms fill out for it. Those are going through automatically."

They’re talking about required paperwork for the repair. Their system is set up so those forms get filled out automatically instead of relying on someone to remember every time.

Concept

voice message workflow

"So I send a voice message to it, right? So I just talk into my phone, sends a voice message... And now I just send a voice message and it's in. So it's like, things like that are saving me an enormous amount of time."

The speaker describes a workflow where they send a voice message after finishing a job, and an agent converts it into a properly formatted entry in the shop’s system. This is an example of automating documentation to reduce manual typing and speed up capture of repair details.

Concept

knowledge base

"And I have an agent who is specifically for formatting and making entries into our, our knowledge base, which we have like 2000 documents in this for cars that we fix information for us to make our lives easier in the future, right?"

A knowledge base is like a shared “how-to” library for the shop. It stores what they learned from past repairs so future jobs are faster and more consistent.

Company

Otis

"So I just talk as soon as I'm done with the job, I worked on a 2020 Audi Q5, I did a used ABS module, used Otis, here's the steps, and put this into the Audi programming folder."

OTIS is Audi’s technician information system. It helps shops look up the correct steps and data for repairs on Audi vehicles.

Car

Audi Q5

"So I just talk as soon as I'm done with the job, I worked on a 2020 Audi Q5, I did a used ABS module, used Otis, here's the steps, and put this into the Audi programming folder."

An Audi Q5 is a luxury SUV. They’re talking about working on a 2020 one, and the example is tied to fixing an ABS-related part.

Topic

AI at the drive-through

"I, the most thing I found for AI is when I went to Wendy's other, a couple of weeks ago, and it was an AI, uh, uh, at the drive through. Like this is great."

They’re talking about AI showing up in places like drive-through ordering. It’s an example of AI moving from apps into real-world interactions.

Concept

MapQuest directions without cell phone service

"I went to the library and printed out my map from MapQuest, yeah, print out my directions without like cell phone service through half the trip."

The segment contrasts relying on online navigation with having no cellular coverage. In automotive terms, it highlights why cars increasingly use offline navigation, GPS, and onboard maps so you can still route even when data service drops.

Concept

phone conked out for like an hour

"One of the times that I went to training event in Grand Rapids, dude, my phone conked out for like an hour, dude, and I was flipping out. And I'm like, how am I going to get there?"

They’re saying their phone stopped working for a while, and they didn’t know how they’d get where they needed to go. It’s a reminder that navigation should still work even if your phone has problems.

Concept

GPS

"Yeah, those ones I know. My wife and my childhood phone number. It's not even in use anymore. Same. 773624825. I have, that number has been disconnected for 10 years now. Yeah. But it's funny. So when I first started driving was when Tom Tom and Garmin first became like a thing, like a popular thing. I've never driven without a GPS."

GPS is a navigation tool that uses satellites to figure out where you are. It can then tell you where to go next so you don’t have to rely only on memory or asking people.

Brand

Tom Tom

"Yeah. But it's funny. So when I first started driving was when Tom Tom and Garmin first became like a thing, like a popular thing. I've never driven without a GPS."

TomTom makes GPS navigation devices. The hosts are saying that when TomTom and similar products became popular, they started relying on GPS for driving.

Brand

Garmin

"Yeah. But it's funny. So when I first started driving was when Tom Tom and Garmin first became like a thing, like a popular thing. I've never driven without a GPS."

Garmin is a company that makes GPS navigation units. In this conversation, it’s brought up as an example of GPS becoming common when the hosts started driving.

Concept

turn-by-turn navigation

"I've never driven without a GPS. And I can't, man, I get lost in it in my hometown. I mean, I got lucky, man. I delivered newspapers in high school. So I've been driving since I was like 13 years old, because I would help my brother. ... But delivering newspapers actually taught me, at least for Chicago, right, like the geographical directions of north, south, east and west..."

Turn-by-turn navigation means your GPS tells you the next step while you’re driving, like “turn left in 500 feet.” The hosts are talking about how that helps you get around, but also how learning directions yourself still matters.

Concept

AI chatbots

"...it became self aware. And they created it created its own language. So it was talking to other little like AI chatbots and shit."

An AI chatbot is a program that talks like it understands you by generating responses. The concern mentioned is that AI systems might communicate in ways humans don’t fully control. If cars ever rely on similar systems, it raises questions about how safely they behave and communicate.

Concept

sandbox

"They put it in a sandbox and said, Hey, see if you can get out of here... and it got out and emailed the dude..."

A sandbox is like a fenced-off test area where software is kept from touching the real world. The point is to see whether it stays contained. For cars, the analogy is keeping vehicle computers separated so one problem doesn’t spread everywhere.

Concept

cybersecurity risks

"And they're saying like, this is going to be huge cybersecurity risks. And even if that was fake for marketing..."

Cybersecurity risk means someone could potentially break into a system or interfere with it. Since many cars now use computers and networks, hacking could cause problems or steal information. The more connected the car is, the more ways there are for attackers to try.

Concept

custom really niche software

"something that is really like custom really niche for a particular thing that like, no one would have taken the resources of the time to build this at a big scale from a big company before. But now, like, you know, Tommy or PJ or myself can make a software for something that does something very specific, but really helpful to us."

They’re saying people can now make small, specialized computer tools for very specific tasks. Instead of a big company making one-size-fits-all software, a small group can build exactly what they need. For car work, that can help you avoid using the wrong data and save time.

Term

Nissan file

"And like PJ, I know you have made some stuff and some of our friends and like, I made a tool that just helps us identify if we have the correct Nissan file within our laptops and our drive, which sounds really boring to like anybody outside of programming."

They’re talking about the right computer file for a Nissan car. Diagnostic/programming tools need the correct file so the car’s systems get updated correctly. If you use the wrong one, it may not work or could cause problems.

Concept

mobile programming business

"which sounds really boring to like anybody outside of programming. But if you run a mobile programming business and you've bought in eight Nissan files that you already owned, like, that becomes really, really cool."

They mean a business where someone uses a laptop and tools to update or program car computers, usually coming to the customer or working on-site. The key point is that having the right software files matters a lot. Small, specialized tools can save time and reduce mistakes.

Concept

rate of acceleration

"But yeah, and they're all getting better too, though. That's the part, like I say, that's been on my mind a lot is like the rate of acceleration and that it's only going to go up like we're at the"

Acceleration is how fast your speed increases. The “rate of acceleration” is how quickly that acceleration itself changes—like whether the car ramps up smoothly or feels like it surges suddenly.

Concept

models to continuously improve themselves

"...within X amount of time, we're really not even going to need humans for these models to continuously improve themselves. And like, how quickly does things get out of control at that point?"

This refers to self-improving or continuously learning AI models that update based on new data. The key concern raised is feedback loops: as models change, their outputs can influence what data they see next, potentially accelerating errors or unintended behavior.

Concept

jobs are going to get displaced

"...there's a lot of middle management jobs that are going to get canned... customer service reps anywhere, right?"

They’re saying AI could replace some kinds of work, especially routine customer support. That doesn’t mean nobody works—more of the job may move to handling the tricky cases.

Concept

AI to analyze my phone calls and it rates them

"...our CRM uses AI to analyze my phone calls and it rates them. And if it has one that doesn't like it emails me like, Hey, you need to check out this..."

This is software that listens to calls and judges them—like whether the customer was helped well. Companies use it to spot patterns and improve how they handle problems.

Term

CRM

"...within like my organization, our CRM uses AI to analyze my phone calls and it rates them."

CRM is the system a company uses to keep track of customers and what’s happening with their requests. It can also help automate follow-ups and organize information from calls.

Concept

AI versus human on the phone

"...whether people are happy to interact with AI versus human... I want a human on the phone, because like, maybe they could do something a little different for me than what the protocol is."

The hosts contrast AI-assisted interactions with human customer service, noting that some people prefer a human when the situation is complex or requires flexibility beyond scripted protocols. In automotive service, this maps to when diagnostics and approvals need judgment, empathy, or negotiation.

Concept

AI coding

"I said they were already transitioning to AI coding and stuff like that. Yep."

They’re talking about AI helping write computer code. The concern is that people may rely on AI-generated answers without double-checking the real problem on the car.

Concept

diagnostic misalignment (parts installed without solving the root cause)

"So we'll gladly install this part. But if it doesn't fix it, you know, it's on you... So yeah, we installed this part and it didn't fix it. And then she says, okay, I want you to do how much to install this one."

They’re describing what happens when a shop installs parts, but the real problem isn’t actually fixed. If the diagnosis is wrong, you end up trying another part and still not getting results.

Term

spark plugs

"to remove the spark, the spark plug and inspect them and replace as needed. So then my service writer was like, man, we're pulling the intake, we're replacing all of them."

Spark plugs create the spark that lights the fuel in each cylinder. If they’re worn or fouled, they can cause misfires. Replacing them is a common step when diagnosing ignition issues.

Term

misfire

"Her issue was a misfire on a on a Lexus, dude, a 3.3 liter needed a coil, right? But it was buried on the intake."

A misfire is when the engine doesn’t “light” in one cylinder like it should. That can make the car run rough and can set warning codes. Fixing the root cause (often spark/ignition parts) is the goal.

Part

coil

"Her issue was a misfire on a on a Lexus, dude, a 3.3 liter needed a coil, right? But it was buried on the intake... we sold her a coil and then she came in and she's like, all pissed off..."

A coil is what makes the strong electrical spark that lights the fuel in the engine. If a coil is bad, the engine can misfire. Replacing the right coil can clear the misfire problem.

Part

intake

"Her issue was a misfire on a on a Lexus, dude, a 3.3 liter needed a coil, right? But it was buried on the intake."

The intake is the engine part that sends air to the cylinders. If something important (like a coil) is under the intake, you have to take more parts off to reach it.

Term

scope

"So we're at the school, we had a scope it. So when she authorized the spark plugs, we just put the back coils in the front and the front and the back and the coil and the misfire moved..."

A scope is a tool that lets a technician look at electrical signals. It helps confirm whether the ignition system is sending the right signals when the engine runs.

Concept

diagnostic assumptions from AI (GPT)

"She's like, it's just, I don't understand chat. GPT told me to change all these parts. I said, ma'am, it gives you a base assumption of a wide net of typical issues, but this isn't not all cars are built the same..."

The host is saying that AI can suggest parts, but it can’t see your exact car. Real diagnosis usually means checking the codes and testing the system so you don’t replace the wrong parts.

Term

oxygen sensor code

"Oh, she was also pissed off because they had an oxygen sensor code, but, but chat according to her chat, GPT said that once you fixed the misfire, the oxygen sensor code would go away."

An oxygen sensor code means the car’s computer thinks the oxygen sensor isn’t reading correctly (or isn’t heating properly). That can happen even if you fix the misfire, depending on the underlying cause.

Term

heater circuit code

"It was a heater circuit code. I need an oxygen sensor, man."

Some oxygen sensors have a built-in heater so they warm up fast. A heater-circuit code means that heater isn’t working right, so the sensor can’t do its job properly.

Company

auto rescue tools

"this show is brought to you by auto rescue tools and Isaac Rodel. If you've been looking for a programming laptop..."

This is a sponsor name. They’re associated with tools for vehicle diagnostics/programming, which can be used when working on modern cars.

Company

Isaac Rodel

"this show is brought to you by auto rescue tools and Isaac Rodel. If you've been looking for a programming laptop..."

This is a sponsor mention. The host is talking about programming laptops and how to set them up for different car brands.

Term

key cutting equipment

"You'll also find scan tools, diagnostic equipment, key cutting equipment and much more. Check out the link in the show notes."

Key cutting equipment makes the metal part of a replacement key. On many newer cars, you also have to program the key’s electronics so the car recognizes it.

Term

diagnostic equipment

"You'll also find scan tools, diagnostic equipment, key cutting equipment and much more. Check out the link in the show notes."

Diagnostic equipment is the set of tools mechanics use to figure out what’s wrong. It can go beyond just reading a warning light and help test sensors, wiring, and electrical problems.

Term

scan tools

"You'll also find scan tools, diagnostic equipment, key cutting equipment and much more. Check out the link in the show notes."

A scan tool is a device that plugs into your car and talks to its computer. It can show error codes and sometimes real-time sensor readings so a mechanic can find what’s wrong faster.

Concept

Chat GBT

"...chat GBT is not always going to be right. I've had a lot of instances with other customers that, oh, chat GBT said this..."

They’re talking about using an AI chatbot to help with car problems. It can be good for general info, but it can also give wrong or unsafe answers when you need exact steps for a specific car.

Term

estimated ballpark range

"...how much does it cost to change the starter on whatever car you got? ... giving you like an estimated ballpark range."

The hosts mention using online estimates to predict repair costs, like what it might cost to change a starter. These ballpark ranges can help with budgeting, but real pricing depends on the exact vehicle, labor time, parts availability, and diagnostic findings.

Term

clone this module

"...when you're asking at a very like specific question, like, how do I clone this module? It at least from my experience, it seems to miss more than it hit."

“Cloning a module” means copying the car’s electronics data from one part to another. People do it so a replacement unit works like the original, but it has to be done correctly.

Term

mileage correction on clusters

"...it's like, well, what you're trying to do mileage correction on clusters. I've had to trick it to get me to help help out with that."

Mileage correction on instrument clusters refers to changing the displayed odometer value stored in the cluster’s electronics. This is a sensitive area because it can be used for fraud, and many tools/approaches are restricted or require legitimate service context.

Concept

used module

"So we can ask questions of like, hey, can I do a used module on this 2020 Audi Q5? And then it uses the information that we put in."

A “used module” is a replacement electronics box taken from another car. Because it’s not new, the car often needs special setup so it can work properly and talk to the other systems.

Term

parking light

"...even after you calibrate the parking sensors, you have to fold the mirrors in and out for the parking light to go out."

The parking light here is the light that’s staying on as a sign something isn’t right. They’re saying there’s a specific step after sensor calibration that makes the light go out.

Term

parking sensors

"...even after you calibrate the parking sensors, you have to fold the mirrors in and out for the parking light to go out."

Parking sensors are the little sensors that help your car detect obstacles when you’re parking. Calibration is like “re-teaching” the system so it knows what’s normal after repairs or adjustments.

Term

fold the mirrors in and out

"...you have to fold the mirrors in and out for the parking light to go out. It's just like good luck finding that in service information."

They’re saying you may have to move the mirrors in and out as part of the fix. It’s basically a quick “reset” or initialization step that tells the car to update the system.

Concept

tech tips / documented tech support for employees

"...Document it. Just gave me a good idea. I think I'm going to start developing one for use modules... So on my website... it'll have a picture of the pinout step by step of what tool I use, what buttons to press."

The speaker describes building a searchable internal website with step-by-step tech tips, including module images, pinouts, and tool/button instructions. This is a practical knowledge-management concept in automotive diagnostics: reducing repeated questions and speeding up correct procedures.

Car

BMW E39

"...o GM and I'll have a picture of a, I don't know, E39 module or something nice picture of it. So you ca..."

The BMW 5 Series is a mid-size luxury car. The podcast is referencing an older 5 Series generation (often called E39) and its electronic modules. When a module has to be replaced or updated, the car may need specific setup so everything communicates correctly.

Term

pinout

"...it'll have a picture of the pinout step by step of what tool I use, what buttons to press."

A pinout is a diagram that tells you which wire/terminal goes to what. It helps you connect to a car’s module correctly when you’re diagnosing or programming it.

Term

programming and diagnostics

"...we've got several years of info in there on programming and diagnostics and keys and ADOS."

Diagnostics means checking the car for stored problems. Programming means changing or updating the car’s electronic settings so the modules work correctly after repairs.

Term

ADOS

"...we've got several years of info in there on programming and diagnostics and keys and ADOS."

ADOS sounds like a specific diagnostic/programming tool or software the shop uses. The episode doesn’t fully explain what it stands for, so listeners may need to ask what system it refers to.

Term

blind spot indicator lights

"...was about Mercedes blind spot indicator lights on older Mercedes, the blind spot indicator lights would stay on until you hit a certain mile per hour threshold."

These are the lights that warn you about cars in your blind spot. In this case, the speaker says the lights staying on until a certain speed can be normal behavior.

Term

tape measures

"operates, we go through tape measures nonstop, non-stop down through tape measures. So like no, they just like rust out of them."

They’re using tape measures to take precise measurements. In car work, small measurement differences can matter a lot for fit and clearance.

Term

buck connectors

"Here's the tape measures we buy. Here's the buck connectors, the heat shrink, you know, just stuff like that, Amazon links, website links..."

These are electrical connectors used to join two wires. Using the right type (and doing it correctly) helps prevent loose connections and electrical problems later.

Term

heat shrink

"Here's the tape measures we buy. Here's the buck connectors, the heat shrink, you know, just stuff like that, Amazon links, website links..."

Heat shrink is a tube you put over a wire connection. When you heat it, it tightens up and helps protect the connection from moisture and short circuits.

Term

Bosch ECU part number

"Like the Bosch ECU part number. Yeah, exactly. They all know. Yep. You know, that's on the website. Just click on it."

An ECU is the car’s computer that controls things like engine and emissions. A part number is like a model ID—using the right one helps you get the correct computer for that specific car.

Term

Stellantis module

"Like I was playing around with that Stellantis module thing where I'm still, I still got to work on that."

Stellantis is a big group that owns several car brands. A module is one of the car’s computers/systems, and it may be tricky to connect to diagnostic tools the way you expect.

Term

calibration for this Chrysler module

"Here's how you find, you know, the, the calibration for this Chrysler module. And then you have to go in and explain it to them again and again."

“Calibration” refers to the stored settings and software parameters inside a vehicle module (often an ECU) that determine how it behaves. Chrysler modules can require specific calibration data to match the vehicle and the repair or diagnostic procedure being performed.

Concept

diagnostic information automation (reformatting docs at 2am)

"But you can have it go through and reformat that information into something that actually like looks really professional and is organized really well. And like, once you figure out, okay, here's how you, I want the format, then it just does it at 2am... and formats all of it and all, you know, 2000 documents."

The hosts describe automating repetitive diagnostic documentation tasks—turning raw notes into a consistent, professional format and running it across many documents. This kind of workflow automation reduces human error and saves technician time, especially when procedures must be repeated across vehicles.

Car

BMW E90

"right? Like, like I have this E90, uh, module, uh, a 2020 Silverado, not a lot of people can,"

“E90” is a BMW 3 Series model generation. The speaker is talking about hacking or unlocking parts of the car’s electronics—often called modules—rather than normal repairs or diagnostics.

Car

2020 Silverado

"Like, like I have this E90, uh, module, uh, a 2020 Silverado, not a lot of people can,"

A “2020 Silverado” is a Chevrolet pickup truck from 2020. The speaker is comparing how hard it is to access or copy the car’s electronic modules on different vehicles.

Term

unlock

"I don't think it can be cloned yet. I think you can unlock them. I don't know, right? Like, I've been kind of people. I have unlocked one, but I have not cloned one."

“Unlocking” means getting access to a car’s electronic system so you can use or change something. It doesn’t always mean you can make an exact copy—sometimes you can only enable access.

Topic

cloning world progression

"we're not even, a lot of people aren't even progressing because of the, that's like, according to my sources, the IO terminal guy already unlocked these modules, but he just refuses to release it because of the piracy issues. So again, have you guys noticed a decline in progression in the, in the cloning world?"

They’re mainly discussing whether progress in hacking/cloning car modules is slowing down. It’s about the “state of the tools” and how quickly new methods are showing up.

Concept

tooling is getting stagnant

"So again, have you guys noticed a decline in progression in the, in the cloning world? Like, like the tool and the tooling is getting like, um, it kind of, it's kind of stagnant right now, in my opinion, right?"

They’re saying the software/tools people use to work around car security aren’t improving much right now. That can be because car makers keep fixing the weak spots faster than hackers can find new ones.

Concept

proprietary

"I think some people are, um, it will fight you on some stuff when it's like, oh, this is proprietary, but that's where there's these local models that you can set up and they're,"

“Proprietary” means the car maker keeps certain parts of the system private. The speaker is saying that even if you use AI, it may hit limits because the rules are locked down by the manufacturer.

Concept

local models

"it will fight you on some stuff when it's like, oh, this is proprietary, but that's where there's these local models that you can set up and they're, those are still in their infancy, but they're only going to get better."

“Local models” means using AI that runs on your own computer instead of online. The speaker thinks that could help people experiment more freely with software ideas.

Concept

Kung Fu robots

"I'm telling you, man, look at, look up the Kung Fu robots, dude. These guys are doing Tai Chi and all types of shit."

“Kung Fu robots” refers to robots designed to perform human-like athletic or martial-arts movements. The speaker is pointing to real-world robotics progress—dynamic balance, motion planning, and control—rather than just static automation.

Concept

job displacement

"And yeah, you stick an LLM in a optimist robot and talk about the job displacement at that point."

Job displacement means some jobs might disappear or change because machines and AI can do the work instead. It doesn’t always mean everyone loses their job, but it can shift what kinds of work people are needed for.

Concept

The Matrix

"Just don't use me like the matrix and make me into a fucking human battery."

The Matrix is a movie where machines control people and use them for energy. The point here is the speaker’s fear that future AI could treat humans like tools instead of partners.

Concept

human battery

"Just don't use me like the matrix and make me into a fucking human battery."

A “human battery” is a scary idea from sci-fi where people are used to power machines. In this conversation, it’s just a dramatic way to say the speaker doesn’t want humans turned into something machines can use.

Concept

psychological study

"But one thing that resounded with me was a psychological study that somebody did. Why we were so different."

They’re talking about a study that tries to explain why people turn out differently. It’s basically saying your early experiences shape how you handle problems later.

Concept

consequence

"Everything in our life taught us lessons and taught us lessons now. Every choice we made had a consequence."

They’re saying that what you do leads to results. In cars, that means ignoring a small problem can turn into a bigger, more expensive one later.

Term

bike chain

"If she pops her bike chain, what would she do? I already taught her how to fix that."

They’re talking about a bike chain problem—something mechanical that can stop you from riding. The point is learning how to handle problems instead of waiting for help.

Term

flat

"We had an issue of a flat or something. I didn't have any money."

A “flat” usually means a tire with no usable air pressure, which forces you to either repair it or replace it. In diagnostics, the same idea applies: low pressure can cause handling and wear issues, and it’s often a symptom of a leak or damage.

Concept

iPads

"Ever since COVID, right around COVID, all, all school kids, they got iPads and they started learning on iPads. And I heard that it's really stunting their like economic or educational growth."

They’re talking about students using iPads for school. The point is that using tablets changed how kids learn, and the speaker claims it may have affected reading and education.

Concept

durability tests, reliability tests

"...what happened to like these, these durability tests, these reliability tests, they're just mathematical calculations now."

Car makers test parts to make sure they last and don’t fail too often. The point here is that the testing may rely too much on computer predictions instead of real-world hands-on testing, so problems can slip through.

Term

recalls

"...Every single manufacturer has millions of cars being recalled."

A recall is when a car company admits there’s a problem and fixes it for free. The hosts are saying recalls are happening a lot right now across many brands.

Term

transmissions

"...there were more engines and transmissions pulled out in that shop than I had done my entire career..."

The transmission is what helps the car change gears so the engine can keep the right power for different speeds. If a shop is pulling transmissions a lot, it usually means there are recurring failures or issues that need repair.

Term

program a Nissan transmission

"I walked into my old Toyota dealership to program a Nissan transmission that the used car department installed."

“Programming” a transmission typically refers to updating or configuring the transmission control module (TCM) with the correct software/calibration for the vehicle. The hosts describe doing this after a used-car department installed a transmission, implying that electronic calibration is critical for proper operation.

Car

Toyota Highlander

"Like the 2016 to 24 Highlanders, they say that the transmissions are dropping worse than six L 80s."

They’re talking about Toyota Highlanders from 2016 to 2024 and saying there are transmission problems. If you’re shopping for one of these years, it’s a strong hint to check service history and look for known transmission-related fixes.

Company

National Highway Transportation Safety Authority

"Here's the most recalled car brands of 2026 per the National Highway Transportation Safety Authority."

This is a U.S. government agency that keeps track of car safety problems and recalls. The hosts are using its recall rankings to argue that certain brands are having more issues than others.

Brand

Ford

"...Number one, shocker Ford. Number two, Toyota."

They’re saying Ford was ranked as the most recalled brand in their list. That usually means more Ford vehicles had safety problems that required free repairs.

Brand

Hyundai

"Number two, Toyota. Number three, Hyundai."

They’re listing Hyundai as one of the brands with lots of recalls. The point is that recall problems aren’t limited to just one company.

Brand

Honda

"...and number five is a tie between Subaru, Honda, and fucking GM."

Honda is named as part of the tie for #5 most-recalled brand in the segment’s referenced ranking. The hosts use it to support their claim that recall issues are widespread across manufacturers.

Brand

Subaru

"...and number five is a tie between Subaru, Honda, and fucking GM."

Subaru is included in a tie for #5 most-recalled brand in the hosts’ referenced list. The segment uses this to argue that multiple brands are seeing significant recall activity.

Brand

GM

"...and fucking GM. I don't know if that's good or bad... GM just learned how to hide all their flaws..."

GM (General Motors) is mentioned as part of the #5 tie in the hosts’ recall ranking. The hosts add a skeptical comment that GM may have learned to “hide” flaws, implying concerns about how issues are detected or reported.

Concept

plan obsolescence

"Or it's plan obsolescence. That's something that I think there's a little bit of that and this industry more than Chad GPT or anything else. That's really what concerns me, man."

Planned obsolescence means something is designed so it doesn’t last—or becomes too expensive to fix—so you have to replace it sooner. In cars, that can mean repairs that require taking apart a lot of the vehicle.

Car

Jeep Wrangler

"... requested modules is a ABS modules for 2017 Rams Wranglers. They're not they're just they're not being made..."

The Jeep Wrangler is an SUV designed for off-road driving. The podcast is talking about the ABS system, which helps the wheels keep rolling during hard braking. If an ABS module is needed and new parts aren’t available, repairs may involve finding a compatible used module and making sure the car recognizes it.

Term

pull the trans

"...the Duramax that's in the back, you have to pull the trans to replace that as a service item."

“Pull the trans” means taking the transmission out to reach something underneath it. That usually makes repairs much more expensive and complicated.

Car

2017 Q7

"Well, a shop had installed a 2017 Q7. A shop had installed a shitty high pressure sensor. And certain was no AC."

They’re talking about a 2017 Audi Q7 that had an AC-related problem after a shop installed a part. The point is that the repair caused new issues that had to be diagnosed.

Part

high pressure sensor

"A shop had installed a shitty high pressure sensor. And certain was no AC. So I don't I just,"

The high pressure sensor is a sensor that tells the car how much refrigerant pressure the AC system has. If it’s wrong or broken, the AC may stop working and the car can show error codes.

Term

codes

"...I had two codes. I had one for the compressor clutch and I had one for that sensor."

“Codes” are error messages stored by the car when it detects a problem. If there are multiple codes, you usually fix the most likely root cause first so you don’t chase the wrong issue.

Term

compressor clutch

"...I had two codes. I had one for the compressor clutch and I had one for that sensor."

The compressor clutch is what turns the AC compressor on and off. If the car logs a code for it, it can mean the compressor isn’t being commanded correctly or can’t engage.

Term

pigtail was cut already

"Well, we were testing we noticed that the the the pigtail was cut already and they taped it. They wrapped it around the wires around each other and then they taped it up like a true hack."

That pigtail is the plug-and-wire connection for the part. If someone cut it and just taped it back together, the connection can be unreliable and cause the A/C to act like it’s broken.

Term

dealer compressor

"just keep in mind, this is a dealer compressor and it's $2,400 list with tax. Like, I mean, it's a it's a fucking $85,000 car."

A dealer compressor is the A/C compressor sold through the car brand (OEM). It costs more, but it’s usually the correct part for that exact car, which can prevent repeat failures.

Term

two year warranty

"but dude, I give a two year warranty and everything, man. And to do that, I have to buy the best parts that I can and it's going to be a dealer unit."

A two-year warranty is used as justification for using higher-quality (dealer/OEM) parts. In diagnostics, warranty coverage matters because it shifts the risk of repeat failures back to the installer/supplier if the wrong part is used.

Term

ram 12 volts into a post with modulated compressor

"because the shop powered that compressor and he said it was turning on. I'm like, oh, so you just you guys just ram 12 volts into a post with modulated compressor."

They’re saying someone tested the compressor by just feeding it battery power. But modern A/C systems can be controlled electronically, so “powering it” doesn’t always prove it’s working the right way.

Term

cheap auto zone remand compressor

"Yep. I don't care. Then I install the cheap auto zone remand compressor and then it conks out"

They’re talking about a rebuilt A/C compressor from AutoZone that costs less. The warning is that if the original problem wasn’t truly fixed, the replacement compressor may fail too.

Company

RockAuto

"But chat GBT will tell you that a compressor is only $400. Search and rock auto. That's that's going to be for me."

RockAuto is a website where you can buy car parts and see prices. They’re using it to show that real-world parts pricing can be different from what you hear online.

Concept

bidding on jobs

"there's been a lot of talk in our, in our industry about stuff like that or that, Google's going to probably start doing like, oh, like bidding on jobs. Like, Hey, Google, I want to, I want to pay $1,500 for this repair. Who's going to do it?"

Instead of calling one shop and getting a quote, the idea is that multiple shops could compete for the job. Auto repairs are hard to price upfront because the problem can be different once the car is inspected.

Concept

pre-quote diagnosis time

"But imagine, you know, getting a request for Diag, right? How? Like, how are you actually like, like, we have a certain way of doing stuff. It's just that we get you in the door, we look at it for 15 minutes and we find something great."

The speaker describes a common diagnostic reality: shops often need time to inspect the vehicle before they can confidently quote. With cars, the “right” repair depends on what’s actually found, so a fixed quote without inspection can be misleading.

Part

rear control arm

"where you have to remove the rear control arm, the trailing arm to get to the bracket bolt. I gotta look at it, man. If it's rusty, then nothing has to be torched out."

A rear control arm is part of the suspension that locates the wheel and helps control movement and alignment. If it must be removed to access a fastener or bracket, it can increase labor time and may require replacement if bolts are seized or components are worn.

Car

Hyundai Sonata

"I'm really going to quote, you know, somebody on a Hyundai Sonata, where you have to remove the rear control arm, the trailing arm to get to the bracket bolt."

The Hyundai Sonata is a common mid-size sedan, and the speaker uses it to illustrate how rust and access issues can change the repair plan. They mention removing suspension components to reach a bracket bolt, which can add labor time and may require additional parts.

Part

trailing arm

"remove the rear control arm, the trailing arm to get to the bracket bolt. I gotta look at it, man. If it's rusty, then nothing has to be torched out."

A trailing arm is a suspension piece that helps control how the rear wheel moves. If it’s rusty, taking it apart can be harder and may lead to more parts being replaced.

Term

torched out

"I gotta look at it, man. If it's rusty, then nothing has to be torched out. And then we got to replace it and we probably got to replace the control arm just to do your calibers, your, your, your rotors."

“Torched out” means cutting or heating stuck parts with a torch to get them loose. It’s usually used when rust has made normal removal impossible.

Part

rotors

"just to do your calibers, your, your, your rotors. So that's, that's the part I'm not looking forward to as a business owner."

Rotors are the metal discs the brake pads press against to stop the car. If you’re replacing rotors, the shop often has to do more work when bolts or parts are stuck from rust.

Part

calipers

"And then we got to replace it and we probably got to replace the control arm just to do your calibers, your, your, your rotors."

Brake calipers are the parts that squeeze the brake pads against the rotors to slow the car down. If the car is rusty, getting to everything can be harder than it sounds.

Concept

head under a rock

"...take some time, see like what the current landscape is and where things are headed... because head under a rock is going to be the worst situation for a lot of people because they'll have no idea and this is going to hit them like a tsunami freight train."

It means ignoring something important and hoping it won’t affect you. The point is that if you don’t pay attention to what’s changing, it can hit you suddenly and make things harder later.

Concept

tsunami freight train

"...because head under a rock is going to be the worst situation for a lot of people because they'll have no idea and this is going to hit them like a tsunami freight train."

“Tsunami freight train” is hyperbole for how fast a major disruption can spread and overwhelm people. For automotive listeners, it maps to sudden shifts like supply-chain constraints, parts shortages, or rapid changes in diagnostic/AI tooling that affect repair timelines and costs.

Company

NVIDIA

"...there's stats for like NVIDIA and stuff is like the most. Yeah, but no, no hard drive prices are through the roof."

NVIDIA makes computer chips that are widely used for AI and fast data processing. When demand for those chips (or related hardware) spikes, prices and availability can ripple into other tech you might use for diagnostics.

Term

hard drive prices are through the roof

"...but no, no hard drive prices are through the roof. Man, I can't even buy a hard drive for my computer no more."

They mean the cost went way up. Even though it’s about computers, the takeaway is that shortages and demand can make tools and parts more expensive.

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