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#36: 900 or 9000? Our Favorite Saab Stories

#36: 900 or 9000? Our Favorite Saab Stories

Life Plus Cars Apr 23, 2026 25 min
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About this episode

Saab nostalgia takes the wheel as Ian and Brendan trade favorite stories, from a college roommate’s turbo 9-5 wagon and its “jet-like” hood design to growing up seeing 900/9000s everywhere. They break down why the 1980s 900 looks and feels so right, praise Saab’s rally-bred turbo character and quirky, driver-focused engineering, and discuss the 9000 as a refined executive pick. They also highlight rare late-era wagons like the 9-3 SportCombi Turbo X and oddball models (9-2X, 9-4X). The show closes with two Craigslist finds: a clean 1985 900 Turbo 5-speed and a cheap, tow-only 2007 9-3 SportCombi 6-speed 60th anniversary car.

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Car

Acura Integra

"...s the first time that I experienced a turbo or an Integra. That thing was so fun."

The Acura Integra is a compact car made by Acura that’s designed to feel sporty to drive. The podcast mentions it because the speaker found it exciting, especially when it came to turbo power. It’s often remembered as a fun, driver-focused model.

Brand

Saab

"Today on the Life Plus Cars podcast, we are talking about Saab, the Saab story. [51.3s] And it's a, yes, it's a good one."

Saab is a car brand from Sweden with a loyal fan base. This episode is mainly about Saab stories and what made the brand special.

Car

Saab 9-3 wagon

"...we just need to jump right into Ian for you and I, like the Saab wagon... They had the 9-3 wagon and because you can get these with a five-speed..."

A “wagon” is basically a car with extra cargo space behind the rear seats. The Saab 9-3 wagon is the version of Saab’s 9-3 that’s built for carrying more stuff, and in this story it’s noted for having a five-speed gearbox.

Concept

wagon practicality

"...We were able, like we helped out with a campus event. We were putting those like big folding tables, like slid right in..."

A wagon is built to carry more than a typical sedan. In this story, the extra space in the back made it easy to transport big items for a campus event.

Car

Saab 9-5 wagon

"...and then they had the 9-5 wagon that you could get, like, oh my God, beautiful, beautiful. They are so fun."

The Saab 9-5 wagon is a bigger, more comfortable wagon than the 9-3. In this episode, they’re highlighting that it can be equipped with a turbo, which helps explain why it feels exciting to drive.

Term

five-speed

"...They had the 9-3 wagon and because you can get these with a five-speed..."

“Five-speed” means the car has a manual gearbox with five forward gears. More gears can help keep the engine in the right rev range, but a five-speed can still feel great and simple to drive.

Concept

production run ending in a specific model year

"Yeah... So 94 was the last year for the 900. And I know this because one of the cars that is currently stored with the Mustang in that garage is a 94, like commemorative edition 900."

They’re talking about when a car model stops being made—like the last year it was sold. That matters because the final-year cars can include special versions, and they’re often easier to identify when shopping later. It’s basically a timeline clue for collectors and buyers.

Car

Ford Mustang

"...one of the cars that is currently stored with the Mustang in that garage is a 94, like commemorative editio..."

The Ford Mustang is a sporty car made by Ford that’s been around for many decades. A “94” commemorative edition would be a special version from the mid-1990s. People talk about it because it’s a recognizable Mustang and can be interesting to collectors.

Concept

facelifted one where they went from the quad headlights to the single headlight

"Was 78 or whatever up until 94, but the facelifted one where they went from the quad headlights to the single headlight."

They’re talking about a styling update where the headlights were redesigned. It’s useful because it helps you tell which years of the car you’re looking at.

Concept

aerodynamic kind of design influence into everything

"well, as we started born from jets, they brought in that aerodynamic kind of design influence into everything and you look at the profile of that."

They’re saying Saab designed these cars with aerodynamics in mind, partly because the company had a background in aircraft. That’s why the car’s shape looks like it’s meant to slice through the air.

Concept

four cylinder turbo

"And I mean, like they got their, the whole design right with that four cylinder turbo is, I mean, they did that with racing."

A turbocharged four-cylinder is a small engine that uses a turbo to push extra air in. That helps it feel stronger without needing a bigger engine.

Concept

rally racing

"sob is deep, deep roots in rally racing and the sob 900 with that motor"

Rally racing is a type of competition where cars are timed on special stages, often on rough roads. The hosts are saying Saab’s rally experience helped shape how these cars were engineered and tuned.

Term

old school turbo

"Truly, yeah, you're just in it and you're just spoiling old school turbo like spooling up, you don't know when that that light switch is going to go off."

A “turbo” is an engine that uses exhaust gases to spin a turbine and force more air into the engine. “Old school” turbos often feel like they wait a moment, then suddenly pull hard when boost comes in.

Term

turbo spooling

"Truly, yeah, you're just in it and you're just spoiling old school turbo like spooling up, you don't know when that that light switch is going to go off."

When you press the gas, the turbo doesn’t instantly make boost. It has to spin up first—so there’s a short delay before the car feels like it really takes off.

Term

front wheel drive

"And like, did they really like, they pioneered some like front wheel drive cars and all wheel drive."

Front-wheel drive means the front wheels do the work of moving the car. It can help the car grip better on wet or snowy roads, but it drives differently than cars where the rear wheels pull.

Concept

driver-focused cockpit design

"Right. As we said, like in their design is very much like a cockpit. When you get in it, it's very driver focused."

A driver-focused cockpit is when the car’s interior is arranged so the driver feels in control—like the controls are easy to reach and the gauges are easy to see. It’s meant to make driving feel more connected and engaging.

Concept

race car-like ride quality

"And there was just huge emphasis on handling and power and just ride quality for having it basically be like a race car."

“Race car-like ride quality” usually refers to a setup that prioritizes handling response—often firmer suspension tuning, less body roll, and more immediate steering feel. It’s a tradeoff: comfort can be reduced compared with a typical commuter car.

Term

manual

"like I want like a nine, five wagon or a nine, three sport combi with a manual."

A manual is a car where you shift gears yourself using a clutch pedal and a stick. Some drivers like it more because it gives you more control over how the car drives.

Car

Saab 9000

"They've heard the 9000, which was their executive car... Those were 84 to 98. And I had a 90."

The Saab 9000 was Saab’s bigger, more “executive” sedan. It was known for feeling comfortable to drive and for handling that felt more confident than you’d expect from a family car.

Car

Toyota A90

"Those were 84 to 98. And I had a 90. I was going to say, thousand arrow that was really pretty"

The Toyota Supra is a sports car from Toyota built for speed and driving fun. The “90” mentioned would be from a specific generation made around the late 1980s to the 1990s. People bring it up because it’s a well-known performance model from that time.

Term

tri-spoke wheels

"Yeah, that was a cool car. When, when, oh, the green, it was that you had those black sports seats too. And the, the tri-spoke wheels, just glorious."

Tri-spoke wheels are wheels with three main spokes. They tend to look sporty and distinctive, which is why the host is calling them out as part of the car’s “glorious” style.

Term

wide body stance

"Beautiful car. Yeah. But yes, love those, love those designs. Nice wide body stance. Yeah."

“Wide body stance” means the car looks wider, usually because the fenders or wheel setup make the tires sit farther out. It’s mostly a look, but it often goes along with a sportier vibe.

Concept

sob mechanic

"And it's, yeah, it's one of these brands where it's just like, you need a sob mechanic. Like you need somebody who knows how to work on these things because they're so, so weird and, and have their own specific things going on, right?"

They’re basically saying you can’t just take these cars to any random shop. You want a mechanic who knows Saabs well, because they have their own special quirks.

Car

Saab 900

"So anyway, those are really my two favorites, the 900 and the 9000. And I've owned both and I just, I really enjoy them."

The Saab 900 is a classic Saab model. The hosts are saying it’s one of their favorites and that they’d love to find one that’s been driven less and kept in good shape.

Concept

survivor kind of condition

"But some of those ones bring some pretty big money. Yeah. They're, they're getting up there, particularly in low mileage or survivor kind of condition, like unrestored and particularly the turbo models."

“Survivor” means the car is still pretty original and hasn’t been fully restored. People like these because they’re more authentic, and they can be harder to find.

Term

turbo models

"They're, they're getting up there, particularly in low mileage or survivor kind of condition, like unrestored and particularly the turbo models. I mean, those are the ones that are really"

A turbo model has a turbocharger that helps the engine make more power. The hosts are saying these turbo versions tend to be especially valuable when they’re low-mile and well kept.

Concept

model year 2008

"GM there towards the end of its life as a company. I think it's model year like 2008. They made a sport combi turbo X."

They’re talking about the car’s model year—basically the year it was built/sold as. That helps you know which version you’re dealing with, since cars can change from year to year.

Term

all wheel drive

"They made a sport combi turbo X. Oh yeah, the all wheel drive. The all wheel drive, six speed."

All-wheel drive means the car can send power to more than one set of wheels. That usually helps the car grip better when roads are slippery or uneven.

Concept

super rare (only 91 imported to the U.S.)

"There's something like less than a hundred. I want to say only 91 that were imported to the U.S. for that year. They are super rare."

They’re saying this version is extremely uncommon in the U.S. When only a small number were imported, it usually means it’s harder to find and can be more expensive to maintain or repair.

Car

Saab Turbo X

"...re's still a handful, but very, very few of those turbo X and that was like the full all wheel drive system..."

The Saab Turbo X is a rare, performance-focused Saab with a turbo engine. It also uses all-wheel drive, which helps the car put power to the road in more conditions. People talk about it because it’s uncommon and built for strong driving.

Car

Volvo V70

"That is just like one of those pinnacle fast wagons. I mean, that thing's up there with the V 70 R. I mean, it's the same era that those two cars came out."

The Volvo V70 is a wagon, meaning it has extra cargo space compared with a typical sedan. Some versions of the V70 were made to be quicker and more exciting to drive. The podcast mentions it because it’s part of a generation of faster Volvo wagons.

Concept

Haldex

"[649.8s] Oh yeah, same all wheel drive system. [651.7s] Yes. So yeah, Haldex. Yeah, that's right."

Haldex refers to a clutch-based all-wheel-drive system used on many vehicles, where power is sent to the rear (or front) as traction demands. It’s designed to be efficient for everyday driving while still providing grip when conditions get slippery.

Concept

hood pivots forward (jet-fuselage style)

"[672.3s] I mean, just that I love that the hood pivots forward. [676.6s] Oh, yeah, it's the best. [677.6s] That's that's one of my favorite features that I mean, again, [681.4s] another subcourt that they're like, oh, it's just like it literally [684.5s] like opens forward like a jet fuselage."

The hood on this Saab style opens in a special way—pivoting forward instead of lifting straight up. The hosts think it’s really cool because it looks and feels different from most cars.

Car

Saab 9-7X

"like the nine seven X or nine seven nine seven X. Yes. Well, was it was the nine three X the Subaru knockoff? Oh, yeah. Oh, right. The the nine two X was a Subaru"

The Saab 9-7X is Saab’s SUV. It’s a bit unusual because it shares a lot with other GM vehicles, so it doesn’t drive or feel exactly like the older Saab sedans and coupes.

Car

Saab 9-3X

"Well, was it was the nine three X the Subaru knockoff? Oh, yeah. Oh, right. The the nine two X was a Subaru"

The Saab 9-3X is a Saab model that, in this conversation, gets compared to Subaru. The point is that it was built in a way that feels similar to Subaru’s AWD performance cars.

Concept

Platform sharing / badge engineering

"Well, was it was the nine three X the Subaru knockoff? Oh, yeah. Oh, right. The the nine two X was a Subaru WRX wearing a sob suit. ... And then even weirder is the sob nine four X, which was built off of the Cadillac SRX."

The hosts are talking about how some cars are built using the same underlying design as other brands. That’s why parts can be shared and why the cars can feel similar even though the badges are different.

Car

Saab 9-2X

"Oh, right. The the nine two X was a Subaru WRX wearing a sob suit. And those things are very cool little cars."

The Saab 9-2X is basically a Saab version of a Subaru WRX. Because of that, many parts are shared, so it’s easier to maintain or customize using Subaru components.

Car

Subaru WRX STI

"And if you got the arrow that had WRX STI bits on it. So basically, for those of you who don't know, if you buy a sob nine two X, it's a Subaru WRX"

The Subaru WRX STI is a high-performance version of the WRX. In this story, they’re saying you can use STI performance parts on the Saab 9-2X because the cars are closely related.

Car

Subaru Wrx

"...o don't know, if you buy a sob nine two X, it's a Subaru WRX and you can put Subaru parts on there, interchang..."

The Subaru WRX is a faster Subaru model that usually comes with all-wheel drive and a turbo engine. If someone buys one, they can often use parts made for Subaru WRXs to keep it running or improve it. It’s talked about a lot because it’s built for grip and quick driving.

Car

Cadillac Srx

"And then even weirder is the sob nine four X, which was built off of the Cadillac SRX."

The Cadillac SRX is mentioned because the Saab 9-4X was built from it. When one car is based on another, they often share major parts, which can help with maintenance.

Car

Saab 9-4X

"If you look this thing up, it's a sob nine four X... It was like alongside the SRX and it is... It was February 2010."

The Saab 9-4X is a Saab SUV/crossover. It’s remembered as a rare model from the brand’s final years, so you don’t see many of them today.

Company

Spiker cars

"GM sold sob automobile to Spiker cars. Oh, I forgot about that."

Spiker Cars is mentioned as the company that Saab’s car business was sold to. When a car brand gets sold like that, it often changes (or ends) production, which is why you don’t see many of those cars.

Term

original window sticker

"[876.1s] he had a nineteen ninety three sob nine hundred [881.2s] and it actually had the original window sticker in it. [884.2s] It was a turbo was a manual and it was a convertible"

The original window sticker is the paper that shows what the car cost new and what options it had. If you still have it, it’s useful because it proves how the car was originally built and priced.

Car

Chevy Corsica

"[901.7s] Right. That was definitely not a cheap car back in the day. [906.1s] So I mean, you could go buy a Chevy Corsica for eighty two hundred dollars. [911.2s] So they got thrown it back to the Corsica"

They mention the Chevrolet Corsica as a cheaper alternative you could buy for much less money. The point is to show that the Saab 900 wasn’t a bargain—it cost more because it was more “upscale” for the time.

Term

options were extremely limited

"[929.2s] appreciated about sob was when you went and bought one of their cars, [934.5s] the options were extremely limited because they all came with leather [940.0s] heated seats"

They’re saying Saab didn’t make you pick from a huge menu of options. Instead, many cars came with a lot of luxury features already included, so you didn’t have to hunt for the right combination.

Term

heated seats

"[934.5s] the options were extremely limited because they all came with leather [940.0s] heated seats, you know, I mean, the options just"

Heated seats are seats with built-in warming elements. You can turn them on to make cold weather driving more comfortable.

Term

leather

"[934.5s] the options were extremely limited because they all came with leather [940.0s] heated seats, you know, I mean, the options just"

Leather is a nicer-looking and more premium material used for seats. In this story, it’s mentioned because Saab cars often came with leather without needing to add lots of options.

Term

rims

"[940.0s] heated seats, you know, I mean, the options just they were full dressers. [945.4s] Like, I mean, you might get a different stereo, you might get different rims, [948.8s] but they were just ready to go"

Rims are the wheels on the car. Different trims can have different rim designs, even if the rest of the car is pretty similar.

Concept

tracking down parts

"because not everybody can work on a sob and you have to track down parts and everything like that. So it's a commitment to be sure."

“Tracking down parts” means hunting for the exact replacement pieces your car needs. For older or less common cars, that can take extra time because the parts aren’t always easy to find.

Concept

commitment to be sure

"So it's a commitment to be sure. And I always smile to know that there are some people out there still keeping these cars on the road and and still going."

This is the idea that owning and maintaining a niche or discontinued car brand is a long-term commitment. It often involves learning the car’s quirks, budgeting for harder-to-find parts, and relying on specialists for repairs.

Concept

auction cars

"Yeah, I see any go through the the auctions. I will always look at what they are and even bid on them most of the time because I know how to work on them. And as long as they aren't rusty, I mean, they're great little cars."

Auction cars are vehicles sold at bidding events. They can be cheaper, but you have to be careful because you might not know the car’s real condition until you inspect it.

Concept

rusty (rust condition)

"because I know how to work on them. And as long as they aren't rusty, I mean, they're great little cars. It just didn't take off or maybe they were too much money."

Rust is one of the biggest deal-breakers when buying older cars because it can mean structural damage and expensive repairs. When hosts say “as long as they aren’t rusty,” they’re signaling they’re filtering for cars worth restoring or keeping long-term.

Topic

Craigslist find

"Well, that makes for a good transition into the Craigslist find. Oh, there you go. And I do have a couple for us. All right."

A “Craigslist find” just means they found a car listing on Craigslist. The fun part is figuring out if it’s a good deal or a potential project.

Concept

survivor car

"True survivor adult... Oh, 1985 sob 900 turbo five speed... it is only a two owner car does look to be very, very straight and in good condition overall."

A “survivor” car is basically a well-preserved older car that hasn’t been heavily changed. People like them because they still feel close to how they were when new.

Term

garage stored

"This one really drew me in because, yeah, it is according to the listing. Anyway, it's been garage stored."

“Garage stored” means it was kept inside, not outside in the weather. That usually helps the car stay cleaner and helps prevent rust and deterioration.

Term

two owner car

"It is only a two owner car does look to be very, very straight and in good condition overall."

A “two owner car” means only two people have owned it. That can be a good sign because it often means the car was cared for and there’s a clearer history.

Concept

140,000 miles

"So I love that 140,000 miles. Really, yeah, factory sunroof and air conditioning."

They mention the car has 140,000 miles. High mileage doesn’t automatically mean it’s bad—if it was maintained well, it can still be a good buy.

Term

air conditioning

"Really, yeah, factory sunroof and air conditioning. It's well equipped as we talked about sobs are."

Air conditioning is the system that cools the cabin. On older cars, working A/C is a good sign the car has been cared for.

Term

factory sunroof

"Really, yeah, factory sunroof and air conditioning. It's well equipped as we talked about sobs are."

A “factory sunroof” means the car came with the sunroof from the factory. That usually means it’s installed cleanly and is less likely to have weird fit or leak problems than an add-on.

Term

cloth seats

"Yeah, I like it's got the cloth seats. You don't see that very often. Yeah, you know, that drew me in as well."

They’re pointing out the car has cloth seats. Some people like cloth because it can be comfortable and doesn’t get as hot or as expensive to maintain as leather.

Concept

repainted hood and trunk

"Looks like it's definitely been waxed and stuff. I mean, maybe the hood and trunk have been repainted. I can't tell, but it does look good."

They think the hood and trunk might have been repainted. That can be normal, but it can also mean the car was repaired or touched up—so it’s smart to look closely for signs of bodywork.

Concept

original 85 sob

"Looks like a very original 85 sob that has not been treated poorly in any way, shape or form. Not bad, not bad."

The hosts emphasize that the Saab 9000 appears “original” and “not treated poorly,” meaning it likely hasn’t been heavily modified or cosmetically abused. For classic cars, originality often correlates with better long-term value and fewer hidden issues.

Concept

towed unsafe to drive

"Two thousand seven sob nine three sport combi six speed manual must be towed unsafe to drive. Well, I you had me going for a bit. And then so I have to get this thing towed."

If a car is “unsafe to drive,” it often means something is seriously wrong. Getting it towed helps avoid making the damage worse while you figure out what the problem is.

Term

limp mode

"Right. So this person says it's in limp mode because it's not running right."

Limp mode is when the car “puts itself in a safe mode.” It reduces power so you can drive carefully to get it checked, usually because something important is wrong.

Concept

limited-edition rarity claims

"Only 15 of this color combination and model were imported to this country. Two thousand dollars firm. So I don't know if there's any validity to that, how rare this car is."

They’re talking about a claim that only a very small number of these cars exist. Sometimes sellers exaggerate rarity, so it’s smart to double-check before assuming the price is justified.

Term

six speed

"And here's a sob sport combi and it is of six speed."

“Six speed” means the car has six gears. That can help the engine run more smoothly and efficiently depending on how fast you’re going.

Concept

parts car

"Yeah, even if I had to put a motor in it, it'd still be worth it at two grand."

A “parts car” is a vehicle you buy mainly to take useful pieces from it. Even if the car itself isn’t great, the parts can still be worth the money.

Concept

salvage title

"As it says, must be towed unsafe to drive. Hey, you know, they were at least they're being upfront about it."

If a car is described as unsafe to drive and has to be towed, it usually means it’s not road-ready. Sometimes it’s also tied to paperwork like a salvage status, which can affect what you can do with the car.

Company

Vice Grip Garage

"That's why I always love whenever I see, you know, Derek Bieri there, vice grip garage. That's right. Something with no brakes or just dumping gas down the carburetor."

Vice Grip Garage is a popular car-repair YouTube channel. They often take neglected or broken cars and figure out how to get them running again.

Term

carburetor

"Something with no brakes or just dumping gas down the carburetor. That's right. Good man."

A carburetor is part of older engines that helps mix fuel with air. If you pour gas into it, you’re basically trying to feed the engine directly so it can start.

Term

GM era

"[1465.4s] than the GM era of 07 [1468.9s] towards the tail end of sobs."

“GM era” means the time when Saab was under General Motors ownership. People use it to describe how the cars changed during that ownership period.

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