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418: Inside the Market with Stewart Howden of Classic Auto Mall

418: Inside the Market with Stewart Howden of Classic Auto Mall

The Collector Car Podcast May 07, 2026 36 min
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About this episode

Stewart Howden walks through how Classic Auto Mall works, from consignment intake and title checks to detailed online listings and third-party inspections. The conversation also digs into collector-car pricing, where rarity, mileage, trim details, and buyer demand can swing values in different directions. Along the way, the hosts swap stories about market trends, favorite classics, and a few personal cars, while also touching on the business side of growing a large inventory operation and meeting consignors at events.

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May the 7th car trivia

"Okay, before I get to my interview... I thought I would throw out some fun facts for May the 7th... So bear with me here."

This part is basically fun car history trivia for May 7th. It’s meant to set the mood before the interview.

Car

DKW production automobile

"In 1927, the first DKW production automobile was completed. Most of us don't know who they are, but they're one of the founding ancestors of Audi."

DKW was an early German car company. The episode mentions it because it’s historically connected to Audi, so it’s a useful bit of car-industry trivia.

Brand

Audi

"Most of us don't know who they are, but they're one of the founding ancestors of Audi."

Audi is the car brand mentioned as the modern company connected to DKW’s history. It’s a piece of car-brand trivia about where Audi’s roots came from.

Car

Pontiac Fiero

"In 1979, Stylist completed the full-size clay model of the Pontiac Fiero."

The Pontiac Fiero was a quirky, mid-engine sports car from Pontiac. The host is pointing out that in 1979, designers built a full-size clay model of it—basically a life-size design prototype.

Car

Lamborghini Cuntas

"In 1990, the final Lamborghini Cuntas rolled off the line. It was a pro-red 25th anniversary edition."

The Lamborghini Countach is a famous supercar. The episode says the last one was built in 1990 as a special 25th anniversary version.

Concept

self-driving car fatality

"In 2016, Florida had its first self-driving car fatality when the driver of a Tesla S sports car using the vehicle's automated driving system died in a collision with the truck."

This phrase means a deadly crash involving a car’s automated driving features. People talk about it because it shows how safety can be complicated when automation is involved.

Car

Tesla Model S

"In 2016, Florida had its first self-driving car fatality when the driver of a Tesla S sports car using the vehicle's automated driving system died in a collision with the truck."

The Tesla Model S is an electric car. The host mentions a 2016 crash where the driver was using the car’s automated driving features, and it resulted in a fatality.

Car

Chevrolet Camaro

"... here car wise. Most of it are bread and butters, Camaros, Mustangs, Chevelles, that kind of thing. But, yo..."

The Camaro is a sporty American car, usually a two-door coupe. People like it because it’s built for performance and there are lots of different versions over the years. It’s commonly talked about in collector circles because it’s a classic muscle-car choice.

Car

Chevrolet Chevelle

"...t of it are bread and butters, Camaros, Mustangs, Chevelles, that kind of thing. But, you know, we have plent..."

The Chevelle is a classic muscle car from Chevrolet. It came in different versions, including more performance-oriented trims. Collectors talk about it a lot because it’s a well-known model from the muscle-car era.

Company

Hagerty price guides

"Because I have a 65 K code Mustang convertible and I just happened to look up on Hagerty price guides the other day and it was trending downward."

Hagerty is a company that focuses on classic cars. Their price guides are like reference charts that collectors use to estimate what cars are worth, and the host is using it to check trends.

Car

1956 or 1957 tri-five Chevy

"Well, we're seeing, like you just said, I mean, we're seeing the prices start to go down a little bit, especially in fifties cars of 56 or seven tri-five Chevy."

“Tri-five” is a nickname for a classic Chevy from the mid-1950s. The host is saying the prices for those cars are starting to drop a bit.

Car

39 Ford deluxe

"Of course, a couple of years ago, we started seeing the late thirties of a 39 Ford deluxe."

This is a 1939 Ford Deluxe, which is a particular version of the car. The speaker is saying the prices for cars like this have shifted recently.

Term

low mileage

"Yeah, we're seeing low mileage, late model stuff do pretty well."

“Low mileage” just means the car hasn’t been driven much. Collectors often pay more because it usually means less wear.

Term

one-of-ones

"We get, you know, the new one-of-ones or one-of-fifty, or we just had an M5 BMW Touring, a 2026, had 90 miles on it."

A “one-of-one” is basically a car that’s unique—no identical twin exists. Collectors may pay more because it’s rare in a very specific way.

Car

BMW M5 Touring

"We get, you know, the new one-of-ones or one-of-fifty, or we just had an M5 BMW Touring, a 2026, had 90 miles on it. That thing broke the bank."

This is a very special BMW M5 wagon. The point here is that rare versions like this can be so in-demand that the price jumps quickly.

Term

one-of-fifty

"We get, you know, the new one-of-ones or one-of-fifty, or we just had an M5 BMW Touring, a 2026, had 90 miles on it."

A “one-of-fifty” means only around 50 cars were made like that. Fewer cars available usually makes them more desirable to collectors.

Term

sticker

"We had a guy who paid $40,000 over sticker on a 2023 Shelby Mustang a couple of years ago."

“Sticker” is the price printed on the car’s label when it was sold new. “Over sticker” means someone paid more than that printed price because the car was hard to get.

Concept

market pricing driven by what someone is willing to pay

"People say, what's my car worth? I go, I don't have any idea. It's worth what somebody's willing to pay for."

The idea here is that a car’s price isn’t just a number—it’s set by real buyers. If someone is willing to pay more for a certain version, that’s what the car becomes “worth.”

Term

red interior

"Interesting about this car is the coupe, but it has the red interior, which I know the red interior is a big deal on these cars. Yeah. And it might be, I can't remember, there's really limited, right, with the number of red interior cars or mine."

“Red interior” just means the car’s seats and cabin trim are red. Collectors often pay more for certain interior colors because they’re rarer and more desirable.

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fender flares

"the coupe had the kind of tacked on little fender flares, which everybody wants the convertible because of its actual flair."

Fender flares are the extensions around the wheel openings. They can change how the car looks, and here they’re part of why people prefer one body style over another.

Car

Mazda Flair

"...interesting car, because the convertibles had the flair rear haunches, whereas the coupe had the kind of ..."

The Mazda Flair is a small Japanese car. The podcast is talking about how the convertible and the coupe versions can look different, especially around the back. Collectors notice those differences because they help identify the exact version.

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convertibles

"It's interesting because that's a very interesting car... because the convertibles had the flair rear haunches, whereas the coupe had the kind of tacked on little fender flares, which everybody wants the convertible because of its actual flair."

A convertible is a car with a roof that can open up. In this conversation, they’re saying the convertible version has styling details that some collectors like more than the coupe.

Car

Ford Bronco

"... when I pulled that car up right next to it, 1996 Ford Bronco Eddie Bauer. And I think those 26.9 seems like a ..."

The Bronco is a rugged SUV made by Ford. The Eddie Bauer version is a trim level that typically adds more comfort features. Collectors often care about the exact year and trim because it changes what the vehicle includes.

Term

five-speed

"the outlier ones are like, we had one with a bent seat and a five-speed. Oh, wow."

A five-speed means the car has five forward gears. Some collectors like certain gearboxes because they’re more fun to drive and can be rarer.

Concept

title

"We checked the title and the VIN number on the car because most people never do that on their cars. And it's a huge mistake because there's so many problems and always, we always have problems with titles and VINs."

A car title is the legal document that proves who owns the vehicle and what its legal status is. In collector-car dealing, title problems (like missing paperwork or mismatches) can be a major barrier to selling or registering the car.

Term

VIN number

"We checked the title and the VIN number on the car because most people never do that on their cars. And it's a huge mistake because there's so many problems and always, we always have problems with titles and VINs."

A VIN is like a car’s fingerprint number. Verifying it helps make sure the car matches the paperwork and that there aren’t hidden problems with the car’s identity.

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undercarriage pictures

"Then we put it up on the lift, take undercarriage pictures, put it on the showroom floor and offer it for sale."

Undercarriage pictures are photos of the bottom of the car. They help buyers spot rust, damage, or leaks that you can’t easily see from the outside.

Concept

consignor

"Then we put it up on the lift, take undercarriage pictures, put it on the showroom floor and offer it for sale. And the consignor, the beauty for the consignors, all they have to do is wait for us to call them and say, bring us the title."

A consignor is the owner who asks a dealer to sell their car for them. The owner usually keeps control of the car until it actually sells.

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knock in the rear end

"We have stuff that no auction house would ever put in, like a knock in the rear end that only happens when it's below 20 degrees outside."

A knock is a clunking or tapping sound from the back of the car. It can mean something is worn or loose, and the fact it shows up only in certain weather can hint at how the parts behave under different conditions.

Term

upper control arm

"Or something like that or a rust hole in the upper control arm or whatever. There's just so many things that we talk about that most places would never do."

The upper control arm is part of the suspension that helps hold the wheel in the right position. If it’s rusted or damaged, the car can handle poorly and it can become unsafe.

Term

rust hole

"We have stuff that no auction house would ever put in, like a knock in the rear end that only happens when it's below 20 degrees outside. Or something like that or a rust hole in the upper control arm or whatever."

A rust hole means the metal has corroded all the way through. That usually signals serious rust, and fixing it can be costly.

Concept

buying a car online

"Right. No, no. Yeah, it is interesting because selling that many online [1217.0s] means that you've really done your homework because you've got to show all that stuff online, [1220.8s] right? You've got to show all the pictures, get the descriptions right where they have the confidence [1224.5s] to buy that car."

When you buy a car online, you can’t inspect it yourself in person. So the listing details and outside checks matter a lot so you feel confident buying from a distance.

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remote bidding

"Like an auction house, you know, they have the confidence to bid remotely, [1229.5s] but it's amazing that such a high percentage is strictly online."

Remote bidding means you can bid in an auction without going to the auction location. It only works if the car details are trustworthy.

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condition type inspections

"I mean, there's lots of inspection companies, the guys that do appraisals also do a condition type inspections that we have [1248.8s] guys who do, you know, drive train inspections"

A condition inspection is someone checking the car’s overall condition. It helps you understand what you’re really buying, especially if you can’t see the car in person.

Concept

drive train inspections

"guys who do, you know, drive train inspections that will come out and charge $150 to a guy. [1255.0s] But I think that, you know, the honesty part of it is what you strive for."

A drivetrain inspection checks the main mechanical parts that move power to the wheels. It’s meant to catch problems before you buy.

Term

Google review

"And we have a 4.7, [1260.9s] 4.8 Google review and we fight for that every day because it's harder than heck to keep that,"

A Google review is what customers leave online about a business. Here it’s used as a way to measure how trusted the seller is.

Car

Volkswagen Rabbit

"...ow, there are so many things that so many kind of rabbit holes you can end up going down. Yeah, absolutely..."

The Volkswagen Rabbit is a small, compact car. People get interested in it because there are lots of different versions and ways to explore it. That’s why it can lead to “rabbit holes” in car collecting—lots of details to dig into.

Concept

rabbit hole

"You know, there are so many things that so many kind of rabbit holes you can end up going down. Yeah, absolutely."

A “rabbit hole” means you start looking into one thing and then end up going much deeper than you planned. With cars, it’s like researching a model and then learning a whole bunch of related stuff.

Car

Chrysler PT Cruiser

"Yeah, absolutely. I mean, you know, I already had a PT cruiser rabbit hole. So"

The PT Cruiser is a Chrysler model with a retro look. People get really into them—so much that learning about them can turn into a deep rabbit hole.

Car

Oldsmobile silhouette

"Hey, I had an Oldsmobile silhouette, which was the Cadillac of minivan. So, you know, there was a lot of people I know in the car world actually drive minivans"

The Oldsmobile Silhouette is a minivan. The point being made is that some car people end up driving practical family vehicles, even when they’re into classics.

Term

twin turbo

"So I just sold my S 65 V 12 twin turbo Mercedes coupe black on black."

Twin turbo means the engine has two turbochargers. Turbos cram more air into the engine, which usually makes the car feel much stronger.

Term

ceramic brakes

"And you got a little wig down because you're worried about the ceramic brakes. And so [1444.4s] at a 100000 miles, you're going to have to pay five grand per wheel for the, [1447.9s] for the rotors."

Ceramic brakes are brakes that use special ceramic rotors. They can work great, but when they need replacement, the parts can cost a lot more than normal brakes.

Car

Mercedes GLS 580

"My daily driver, [1452.5s] what I drive the most is a, is a 2,023 GLS 580 Mercedes. That's my, really my wife's car, [1460.5s] but we practically go everywhere together anyway."

The GLS 580 is a big, luxury Mercedes SUV. The host is saying it’s the car they use the most day to day.

Car

Aston Martin V8 Vantage

"And then we've got an 06 or an 08 Aston Martin V8 [1466.9s] Vantage and DBR nine racing green."

The Aston Martin V8 Vantage is a sporty Aston Martin with a V8 engine. The speaker is listing it as one of their cars and calling out the green paint style.

Car

Mercedes-Benz CL 55 AMG

"And then I've got an 06 911 S six speed and a CL 55 AMG coupe."

The CL 55 AMG is a Mercedes luxury coupe that was tuned for more performance by AMG. The host is just listing it among their cars.

Car

Porsche 911

"And then we've got an 06 or an 08 Aston Martin V8 Vantage and DBR nine racing green. And then I've got an 06 911 S six speed and a CL 55 AMG coupe."

The Porsche 911 is a famous sports car known for being fun to drive. They’re also pointing out they have one with a manual transmission.

Car

Oldsmobile Cutlass Hurstoles clone convertible

"I just bought, and it's on its way coming up from North Carolina, a 72 Oldsmobile Cutlass Hurstoles clone convertible triple white with the gold stripe and the Hurstoles badge on the back and the rear spoiler and the his and hers shifter."

This is a classic Oldsmobile Cutlass convertible that’s built to look like the famous Hurst/Olds style. It’s not necessarily the original factory version, but it’s made to match the look.

Term

his and hers shifter

"a 72 Oldsmobile Cutlass Hurstoles clone convertible triple white with the gold stripe and the Hurstoles badge on the back and the rear spoiler and the his and hers shifter."

A “his and hers” shifter is a classic-style gear shifter with two separate levers. It’s a distinctive look/feel inside the car.

Term

455

"And it's a 455. [1543.4s] It's, so it's a clone. It's, but it's really well done."

“455” is the engine size—455 cubic inches. Bigger engines like this are part of why these classic cars are so desirable.

Term

Hurstoles badge

"a 72 Oldsmobile Cutlass Hurstoles clone convertible triple white with the gold stripe and the Hurstoles badge on the back and the rear spoiler and the his and hers shifter."

The Hurst/Olds badge is a recognizable performance-style emblem from classic Oldsmobiles. Mentioning it here suggests the car is built to look like that special edition.

Term

two hour delay

"I was trying to buy it in an auction [1549.3s] only to realize that the auction was like on a two hour delay from what I was watching."

A “two hour delay” means the auction info you see isn’t happening in real time. So you might bid after the car is already sold.

Term

keep cash or crush

"Yes. I do a little game called keep cash or crush. I give you three cars, you pick one to keep forever, one to cash in. Yeah. And one to crush."

“Keep cash or crush” is a fun game where you’re given three cars and you must choose: one to keep, one to sell for money, and one to get rid of by crushing. It’s basically a test of what you’d really value most.

Term

number two cars

"Now let's make the assumption these are all number two cars. Fair enough. I'm going to pick different colors because that could be a big deal."

“Number two cars” refers to a secondary vehicle in someone’s lineup—typically not the primary daily driver. In collector-car conversations, this matters because the market and buyer behavior can differ for cars meant for occasional use versus cars intended as the main transportation.

Car

1970 Mustang Boss 302

"First one is going to be a 1970 Mustang Boss 302. [1641.8s] Hmm. Let's make this one. Grabber orange with white interior."

The 1970 Ford Mustang Boss 302 is a special, performance-focused version of the Mustang from 1970. Because it’s a well-known collector favorite, its value can behave differently than other Mustangs.

Car

Plymouth Cuda

"The second is going to be the competitor 1970 Plymouth AAR CUDA hardtop. One of my favorites of all."

The 1970 Plymouth AAR Cuda hardtop is a special, limited muscle car from 1970. People collect it because it’s uncommon and has a racing connection, so the exact version matters for value.

Car

1967 Jaguar XKE Series 1 Roadster

"Enzo Ferrari, called it the sexiest car ever. 1967 Jaguar XKE Series 1 Roadster. Let's put this one in, I think it's called Primrose Yellow, but it's a convertible."

The 1967 Jaguar XKE Series 1 Roadster is a classic British sports car people love for its looks and driving feel. Collectors care about the “Series 1” version because early cars can be more sought-after.

Car

Ac Cobra

"...ay. I can certainly see trends. I mean, why is an AC Cobra not worth $10 million today? A real 427 Cobra. Pa..."

The AC Cobra MkIII is a classic-style sports roadster. It’s known for being lightweight and built for strong performance. Collectors pay attention to it because Cobra models are highly sought after.

Term

replicas

"because there's so many replicas, the guy who owns the real one gets tired of saying, no, it's a real one."

“Replicas” are cars made to look like a famous original. If there are lots of them, it can be harder to tell what’s truly authentic—and that affects what real cars are worth.

Car

Shelby Cobra

"...o break. That's great. Yeah. So to go back to the Cobras, I think you're right. It's funny, because there'..."

The Shelby Cobra is a classic sports car known for being very fast and exciting to drive. It has a strong racing reputation, which is why collectors pay a lot of attention to it. People often talk about Cobras because they’re iconic and highly sought after.

Term

trumpet exhaust

"triple black convertible, and those, those trumpet pipes coming out the back and he'd come driving by"

Trumpet exhaust means the tailpipes flare out like little trumpets. It’s a style choice that also tends to make the car sound more noticeable, which is why the speaker remembers it.

Term

Stinger hood

"had the Stinger hood, which wasn't till 67."

A Stinger hood is a Corvette hood style with a distinctive raised shape. The speaker is saying this 1966 Corvette has that later hood, even though it should have the earlier look.

Term

patina

"The, the, the paint wasn't right, but it had just the right amount of patina. You know, you could drive it and enjoy it,"

Patina is the natural, worn-in look a car gets as it ages. The speaker likes it because it makes the car feel real and enjoyable to drive, not like it’s been kept too perfect.

Term

turbine wheels

"like 75. You know, the turbine wheels, it had, right."

Turbine wheels are wheels with lots of thin spokes that look like a turbine. The speaker brings them up because they help the car feel like it was modified in a specific time period.

Concept

modified, not correctly

"because it's usable and it's fun and it's captured a period in time when it was modified, you know, not correctly, obviously, but it's cool."

This refers to a car that’s been customized with period-style parts, but not with fully correct, factory-accurate details. The speaker’s point is that “wrong” details don’t automatically ruin the car if the overall look and vibe capture the era and make the car fun to live with.

Car

1980 Corvette

"our producer writes about a 1980 Corvette. And most of us in the car world would never stop and take a second glance at a 1980 Corvette just because they weren't, they weren't powered very well"

This is a Chevrolet Corvette from 1980. The host is saying people sometimes judge it too quickly because it doesn’t feel very powerful, but it still looks great.

Concept

malaise era

"And it was like a, you know, anything from that era was the malaise era and just don't care."

“Malaise era” is a nickname for the late 1970s/early 1980s when many American cars felt slower than earlier muscle cars. The host is saying that reputation can make people ignore cars that still look good.

Car

1975 Mercedes-Benz 300 D sedan

"I'm drilling over your 1975 Mercedes Benz 300 D sedan right now. Love those. Offered at $10,000. Seems like a bargain, right?"

This is a Mercedes-Benz 300 D from 1975, a diesel luxury sedan. The host is saying it’s being sold for about $10,000 and seems like a great deal, especially given how long these cars can last.

Car

Ferrari F40

"everything that you would have, there would be the obvious candidates, especially nowadays, the F 50, F 40, Enzo, La Ferrari, blah, blah, blah, all the Pagani, all these things. But there'd be a lot of oddball stuff in there that you either liked when you were growing up or had a fond memory"

The Ferrari F40 is a very famous supercar made by Ferrari. It’s known for being extremely performance-focused and for being a highly collectible classic. That’s why it shows up in conversations about the most desirable Ferraris.

Car

Ferrari F50

"everything that you would have, there would be the obvious candidates, especially nowadays, the F 50, F 40, Enzo, La Ferrari, blah, blah, blah, all the Pagani, all these things. But there'd be a lot of oddball stuff in there that you either liked when you were growing up or had a fond memory"

The Ferrari F50 is a supercar made by Ferrari. It’s considered a top collectible because it’s a special, high-performance model. That’s why it’s commonly brought up when people list the most desirable Ferraris.

Concept

restomads

"it's like restomads. I didn't get them at first. I get them now. I get people want restomads because they want the nostalgia"

“Restomads” are classic muscle cars that have been restored and often updated. The host says some buyers expect them to feel exactly like a modern car, but they can still drive rough or feel old-school.

Car

Cadillac Escalade

"because you get out of an Escalade and you get in a 69 Z 28 Z 302"

The Cadillac Escalade is a modern, comfortable luxury SUV. The host uses it as the “modern” reference point before switching to an older muscle car.

Term

four speed

"you get out of an Escalade and you get in a 69 Z 28 Z 302 with a four speed and you hate it"

A “four-speed” means the car has four forward gears. The host is saying that with only four gears, you may have to shift more to keep the car feeling right.

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