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429: The Story Behind a 1944 KdF-Wagen Type 82e with Alexander Soultanis

429: The Story Behind a 1944 KdF-Wagen Type 82e with Alexander Soultanis

The Collector Car Podcast Jul 23, 2026 27 min
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About this episode

A 1944 KdF-Wagen Type 82e sits at the center of a deep-dive with Alexander Soultanis, framed by how early KdF wagons (1938–1944) were limited-run prototypes and test mules. Wartime damage and shifting priorities led to rebuilding with newer Beetle parts, while restoration demanded period-correct sourcing—down to a prototype hood, bolts, and even stub-axle details from original literature. The episode also covers blackout headlight covers, semaphore turn signals, and why judging categories don’t fit neatly.

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Car

Ford Model

"...mer order was placed and delivered. It was a 1903 Ford Model A. Now this is a little confusing it was confusin..."

The Ford Model A is an early Ford car that came after the Model T. The podcast mentions it while talking about early ordering and delivery timing, which can make the story feel confusing. It matters because it’s part of Ford’s early shift to a newer design.

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Car

Ford Model T

"...g they built them and then they came out with the Model T in 1908 October the 1st of 1908 and then when the..."

The Ford Model T is an early car made by Ford that started being sold in 1908. The podcast is mentioning the date to place it in the timeline of Ford’s early cars. It’s important because it was one of the first cars that many people could afford.

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Tesla So Model

"...el A it was named after that original 1903 model. So Model A, Model T and then back to Model A. So happy bir..."
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Volkswagen Beetle

"... right the KDF wagons are very different from the Beetle like I said which was started later on these are ..."

The Volkswagen Beetle is a small car made by Volkswagen that became very popular. The podcast is pointing out that it was developed after earlier KDF “wagon” ideas. People talk about it a lot because it has a long history and lots of parts and information available.

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prototype cars

"these are basically all limited production prototype cars that's something that some people don't really understand"

A prototype car is an early version of a car that’s built to test ideas. The goal is to learn what works (and what doesn’t) before making the final production version.

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test mules

"they're doing test mules and they're figuring out what the production vehicle is going to be"

A test mule is a “practice” car used to test new parts and ideas on real roads. It helps engineers learn how the final car should be designed before production starts.

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restoration process

"the restoration process if you were to look at this as a mass produced VW Beetle it would be a much more simple restoration process"

The restoration process is the work of bringing an old car back to how it originally was. This episode’s point is that rare prototype cars can take far longer than restoring a more common production model.

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sheet metal

"just based on the material and the sheet metal but this was a 22 year process to restore it"

Sheet metal is the body’s outer metal panels. In a restoration, the shape and availability of those panels can make the job much easier or much harder.

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Place

Krakow Poland

"so there was three prior owners to this originally this car was found in Krakow Poland full of bullet holes and shrapnel damage abandoned with the bad accident in the front"

The host says the car was found in Kraków, Poland. That kind of history helps explain why the car was damaged and why restoring it can require hunting down missing parts.

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period-correct parts

"after the war and got put to use so that did more changes to the car because they're beetles and as beetles came out newer parts were put on it to update it so now you got to find the original stuff that they were running out of when they were making these cars"

“Period-correct parts” means using parts that fit the car’s original time period. Restorers do this so the car looks and is assembled the way it would have been back then.

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prototype hood

"we don't need a vw beetle hood we need a prototype hood one of a handful right right well in this case the hood was missing yeah the car was about six inches too short in the front from the damage"

A prototype hood is an early version of a car’s hood used before the final production design. The host is saying the early cars may need a specific hood shape or mounting points to match correctly.

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NOS

"1950 hood that this is the I tried using as many 40s parts as I could and I'm a real stickler about nos it's kind of like a geek with that kind of stuff but we"

NOS stands for “new old stock,” meaning old parts that were made back then but never got used. Collectors like them because they can be closer to what the car originally had.

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blueprints

"I started a kdf registry and I have those on the a website and I have a library that's 20 foot long wall of all documentation all kinds of things studying this and blueprints on the walls and studying this subject for so long"

Blueprints are detailed drawings that show how something is built. For a rare car, they can help you rebuild missing parts accurately.

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chassis number

"and you know the weird part about it is nothing is really set in stone with these so it's not like if you look for this car you could say from this chassis number"

A chassis number is like a car’s unique ID number. The host is saying that for this car, the ID doesn’t always tell you everything about how it was originally built.

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catalac

"so it's not like if you look for this car you could say from this chassis number this catalac"

The host is talking about a reference document (like a catalog) that people might use to figure out what parts belong to a specific car. For this one, the host says you can’t just look it up and be done—you still have to confirm details.

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Car

1944 KdF-Wagen Type 82e

"this model here is what they call a type 82e ... mistakenly called a kdf wagon beetle"

This is a specific German car from World War II-era planning and production. It’s important because it’s part of the same family of ideas that eventually became the Volkswagen Beetle, but it was shaped by wartime needs.

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restored

"plus some of the cars that were restored say 10 years ago they were done to what knowledge that was known then right but new knowledge came up"

In this context, “restored” refers to returning an old car to a historically accurate configuration. The speaker emphasizes that restorations done “10 years ago” may reflect the knowledge available then, while newer research can change what’s considered correct.

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numbers matching

"taking 22 years to restore this was actually an advantage because I would have ended up restoring some items on this car wrong like the like the curls inside under the fenders and stuff"

“Numbers matching” means the important parts on the car are the original ones that belong to that specific vehicle. Collectors care because it helps prove the car hasn’t been rebuilt with random replacement parts.

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Type 60

"so they made what's called the type 60 most of them were dark colored gray or dark dark blue"

“Type 60” is an earlier version name tied to the original KdF-Wagen plan. It’s the pre-war concept before the car’s design got reshaped for wartime use.

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Kübelwagen jeep

"they took the kdf wagon beetle framework and designed a utilitarian body on it called the kubu wagon jeep"

The Kübelwagen was a World War II-era German utility vehicle. It used a similar basic chassis idea to the Beetle/KdF-Wagen, which is why it can look like a Volkswagen to modern eyes.

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reduction boxes

"understand the height right like a kubu wagon but it's actually a type 60 chassis that has kubu wagon components on the front axle and the reduction boxes in the back like the kubu wagons had"

Reduction boxes are extra gearing placed near the wheels. They slow the wheels down while multiplying the torque, so the vehicle can pull better, especially at low speeds. In this story, they’re a key reason the car can handle heavier loads.

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slip differential

"which give it a lower gearing it also has a slip differential in the rear which is a part of their Porsche design it's a very complicated thing"

A differential is what lets the left and right wheels turn at different speeds, like when you’re cornering. A “slip” differential is designed to allow some controlled difference so the car can keep moving better when traction isn’t equal. Here, it’s mentioned as part of why the drivetrain is so specialized.

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lower gearing

"like the kubu wagons had which give it a lower gearing it also has a slip differential in the rear"

Lower gearing is when the car is set up to be stronger at slow speeds rather than faster at high speeds. It helps the vehicle pull and climb better because the engine’s effort is multiplied. The host connects it directly to the vehicle’s ability to tow or carry weight.

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Porsche 911

"which give it a lower gearing it also has a slip differential in the rear which is a very complicated thing it's amazing and it's not that different from the Porsche 911 ones believe it or not the parts to find them the Porsche 911 guys got those"

The Porsche 911 is a famous sports car model from Porsche. In this segment, the host uses it as a comparison to explain that the complicated parts on this Volkswagen-derived vehicle are similar to the kind of specialized parts Porsche 911 owners can find and install. It’s about how these unusual drivetrain pieces are sourced and understood.

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Volkswagen Buses

"...with this by the way those reduction boxes on the Volkswagen buses from the 60s that's where they came from as well ..."

The Volkswagen Bus is a van made by Volkswagen that was used to carry people or cargo. The podcast is talking about a specific part on some 1960s versions called “reduction boxes,” which help the drivetrain work the way the vehicle needs. This matters because it affects how the bus drives and what parts you might need to maintain it.

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154 horsepower motor

"the lower reduction boxes gearing for the buses to take that little 24 horsepower motor and and make it actually pull something because you need that more torque now"

A “24 horsepower motor” is a small, low-power engine. With that little power, the vehicle can’t rely on raw speed or power alone—it needs extra gearing to make the wheels turn with more pulling force. That’s why the discussion focuses on reduction boxes and lower gearing.

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three known seats in existence

"the interior there's three known seats in existence three known seats nobody has a pair no nobody has a pair right so um these seat frames are completely different"

The host is saying that only a tiny number of original seats are known to exist for this specific vehicle. Because there aren’t even matching pairs, restorations can’t just “swap in” parts from another car. That’s why they had to reproduce the seats and track down the right materials.

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seat frame

"so um these seat frames are completely different i got 1946 seats originally that i bought thinking that i can change it then i found out that the spring system and everything is completely different"

Seat frames are the metal structure underneath a seat. They control how the seat is built and how it fits into the car. Here, the host says the frames are different enough that you can’t just replace the cushions—you may need the correct frame and spring setup too.

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spring system

"i got 1946 seats originally that i bought thinking that i can change it then i found out that the spring system and everything is completely different"

The spring system is the set of springs inside the seat that supports you and controls how the seat feels. If it’s different, the seat may not sit right or the upholstery may not fit correctly. The host is pointing out that restoration needs the correct internal structure, not just the outer fabric.

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upholstery

"the upholstery could have wait what do you mean it didn't have upholstery oh when you got it the rear spring was uh set up it was in the back but it didn't have i got you okay enemy material on it got it the two other seats that are in"

Upholstery is the covering material on the seats—like fabric or canvas. In this story, different seats have different upholstery, so you can’t assume they’re interchangeable. Getting the right material is part of making the interior look and feel correct.

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original parts book

"[976.0s] okay and um now what about the literature here so this literature this is an original parts book this is the type 82e"

An original parts book is factory-issued documentation listing components by name and often by part number for a specific vehicle type. For restorations, it’s more reliable than generic catalogs because it reflects how the manufacturer built that exact variant. The host uses it to identify parts and even translate German terminology to source correct hardware.

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Place

Cuba wagon

"[983.9s] parts book this is the type 82e which is the cuba wagon and this type 82 and this is the type 82e which is this car"

“Cuba wagon” here appears to be a nickname/descriptor for the Type 82e configuration rather than a literal geographic reference. In collector contexts, such nicknames often reflect the vehicle’s intended use, customer, or story, and they help distinguish variants when searching literature and parts. The episode uses it to clarify what Type 82e corresponds to.

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manuals are made before the cars are made

"[1000.1s] what was on this now just like with all manuals a lot of people don't realize manuals are made before the cars are made oh right a lot of times they change things especially during the war"

This is a restoration/collector concept about how factory documentation is produced early, sometimes before final production details are locked. During wartime, changes in materials or engineering can force revisions, so the “official” manual may not perfectly match the final built car. The host notes that even when changes happen, the manual still preserves information that can help identify parts.

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21 different kinds of bolts

"[1040.7s] guacamole even the bolts are all different on this car they're not like what you would want on a Porsche there there's there's 21 different kinds of bolts that could have been used on this car"

This refers to the host’s observation that the car used many different bolt types/sizes rather than a one-size-fits-all approach. For restorations, bolt variety matters because incorrect bolts can fit poorly, strip threads, or change how parts clamp together. The episode frames this as part of why the parts literature and measurements are so important.

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threaded halfway

"[1052.5s] we found out which were the most common and we got every single bolt whether they were threaded all the way threaded halfway we got all the right ones with the right sizes"

“Threaded halfway” means the bolt only has threads on part of its length. That changes how it tightens and how much of it actually grips inside the mating part. The host is emphasizing they got bolts with the correct thread length.

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handbook written in english

"[1086.4s] but they were called type 51s by then and if you look it's a handbook written in english and handbook in german and this was done be when the british took the plant over"

The host is talking about a manual/handbook that was written in English (and also German). That’s important because it helps people understand the parts and procedures even if they don’t read German. In the story, it’s tied to the plant being taken over after the war.

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stub axles

"[1117.6s] okay number one is a stub axle you know and so and that's what you call it that so that was one of the ways i could call"

A stub axle is a short axle piece that helps hold the wheel in place. It connects to other parts that let the wheel rotate and work with the suspension. The host is saying the book helped them figure out exactly what this part is called for their car.

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pre or post war

"“it’s a little difficult to find classes that it will fit into a pre or post war or during the war”"

Collectors often group cars by time period, like before the war, during the war, or after the war. That affects which judging category a car can enter.

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production goes up to... february 42

"“production goes up to… like february 42 some cars and then stops and then production starts again in 46 there is really no place to put put this”"

This refers to a judging/production cutoff used to define categories—production is treated as ending around February 1942, then restarting in 1946. The point is that the car’s 1944 date doesn’t align cleanly with those category boundaries.

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Volkswagen works

"“it was built at Volkswagen works yeah”"

This means the Volkswagen factory where the car was made. Where it was built can matter for authenticity.

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gas tank is connected to the chassis

"“the gas tank is strapped down to the body on these cars… the gas tank is connected to the chassis… if you were to lift the body straight up that the gas tank would still be on the chassis”"

They’re explaining where the fuel tank is mounted. In this design, the tank is attached to the frame (chassis), not just the outer body.

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rectangular hole in the metal

"“there’s this rectangular hole in the metal under here that if you were to lift the body straight up…”"

They point out a specific cutout/opening in the metal that relates to how the fuel tank is fitted. It’s the kind of detail restorers use to confirm the layout is correct.

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holding the tire down

"“this section here is for holding the tire down and holding the gas tank”"

They’re describing the built-in area that keeps the spare tire from moving around. It’s part of the same underbody layout as the fuel tank.

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open hole straight down

"“there’s also complete open hole there straight down to the”"

They mention an opening that goes straight down underneath the car. Details like this can help confirm the original underbody design.

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bumper brackets

"simple things like like like uh the bumper brackets they're two pieces of metal they're not tack welded together they're just separate pieces and they're closer to the body [1329.1s] they extended them out later started tack welding them together"

Bumper brackets are the metal parts that hold the bumper to the car. The hosts are saying the early design wasn’t strong enough, so they changed how the brackets were attached to handle impacts better.

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tack welding

"they extended them out later started tack welding them together now what's the reason for the headlight covers"

Tack welding is like a small “spot” weld that temporarily holds parts together. The point in this story is that joining the metal pieces with tack welds made the front end stronger.

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headlight covers

"now what's the reason for the headlight covers it looks like uh i don't even know well okay so 1944 there was an ordinance that said all vehicles motorcycles i think even trains believe it or not had to have a cover on the headlights"

Headlight covers are blackout devices used to reduce how much light a vehicle emits. The segment explains the wartime logic: from above, a bright bulb’s hotspot is easier for bombers to spot than the road beam, so covers let only limited light through and help hide the vehicle’s location.

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Concept

blackout compliance

"there was an ordinance that said all vehicles motorcycles i think even trains believe it or not had to have a cover on the headlights and the reason being is from an air because the air raids were going on"

Blackout compliance refers to following wartime rules that restrict vehicle lighting to avoid giving away positions to enemy aircraft. In this segment, the hosts connect blackout rules to the use of headlight covers and the idea that light is easier to detect from above than from the ground.

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glove boxes

"tell us what are are these the instrument binocles here underneath those are the uh glove boxes yeah now an interesting thing on glove boxes is the book shows they were as a fiberboard okay and they never made them they actually started"

Glove boxes are the storage compartments mounted in the dashboard area. The segment notes a materials choice for the glove box liners—fiberboard—that later proved problematic because it would rip apart and fail to stay in place.

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fiberboard

"now an interesting thing on glove boxes is the book shows they were as a fiberboard okay and they never made them they actually started to make them and they realized they just fall off they rip apart they they're no good so there's"

Fiberboard is an engineered wood product made from compressed wood fibers. In this episode, it’s mentioned as the planned material for glove box construction, but the maker reportedly abandoned it because it would rip apart and detach.

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semaphores

"one thing is the the the semaphores here oh yeah i wanted to see can you pop one of those ... by 44 most cars didn't even have these they said you know what delete them ... the semaphores are similar to a um a 550 Mercedes k semaphore that style"

These are early turn-signal lights that move or show direction mechanically. Before modern blinking lights were common, some cars used these kind of semaphore-style indicators. The episode is about finding the right ones so the car looks and fits correctly for its era.

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Concept

one-off prototype

"so this is a one-off prototype this took about 10 years to figure out uh when i found the car"

A one-off prototype is a custom experimental version—basically a unique car built to test an idea. The host is saying this semaphore setup wasn’t a normal production item, which is why it’s rare and took a long time to develop. It also explains why finding correct parts can be difficult.

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new old stock

"it was beat up and it wasn't good but i took it i bought it then i searched online and i searched people to find new old stock ones that's what's in here"

“New old stock” means the part is old, but it was never used—like it was stored away and still new. The host looked for NOS semaphores so the car could be restored with authentic parts. It’s a common strategy for collectors who want the original look.

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