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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to a very, very special episode of Nineworks Radio today.

It's your Porsche and Car podcast celebrating half a million downloads.

Woo!

Half a million.

Half a million downloads.

You well know by now if you're a regular listener to Nineworks Radio, then if you've a predilection

for Porsche sports cars, your pockets aligned with equal parts currency and curiosity, and

let's face it, you've the breaking point of a soggy KitKat, then Nineworks Radio is your

spiritual home.

Today celebrating half a million downloads of a podcast dedicated to just one engineering

brand, most famous, of course, for its sports cars.

You're joined today by your two ever-presents in myself, Mr. Lee Sibley, and my good amigo,

Mr. Andy Brooks.

Good day, listeners.

How are you doing, Andy?

You okay?

I'm good.

I don't know why.

I've got a real deep voice.

You went down there.

So, mates, if we could have a special guest to celebrate our half a million download milestone,

if we could pick one celebrity to prize open his diary and elect to join us for a recording

on the very day we hit half a million downloads, who would you pick?

Oh, that's a difficult one, mate.

I think we'd have to go big, wouldn't we?

Would we venture to Germany, maybe?

Possibly.

Who would you pick?

AP?

Mr. Andrew's pointing out, well, Andy, it's funny you say that, because it's not him.

But if you could pick somebody else, even bigger than AP, who would it be?

How about somebody taller, which is quite a tall feat anyway?

Yeah, yeah.

Walter Roll?

Well, Andy Brooks, my friend, it's funny you say that, because joining us…

No, it's not him either.

But it is better than anyone.

What could be better?

It's Mr. Max Newman.

Hey!

Bloody hell.

Roll him in, roll him in!

What a lead in.

Things have really stepped on since I was last here, there's scripts and everything.

Like you said, mate, once you left, the budget went mad.

It went through the roof, it went through the roof.

Scriptwriters and all sorts, I love it.

It is so good to have you back on the air.

Thank you.

It's so good to have you back on the airwaves, mate.

Absolutely.

I'll say that right now on behalf of all listeners, like for a little cameo.

As you said earlier on, it's the very day we've tipped over half a million downloads.

So like you are the perfect amigo to join us for this because you're such a quintessential

part of not just Nunwex Radio, but all things Driven Not Hidden Collective as well, mate.

It's so good to see and hear you again.

It's a great day.

Great day to be here.

You know, on the day, as you say.

Yeah, literally happened today, this morning, didn't it?

I knew it was coming, as you said the other day, but when I got up and saw that it was

actually today and I knew that we were recording, I thought, well, that's, you know, that stars

a lining, isn't it?

Yeah.

Brilliant.

Yeah.

Well done.

You two, particularly, you know, because you've already driven the thing from day one all

the way to here, you know, with consistency and passion.

And it's not easy.

It is not easy doing this week in, week out.

Well, I mean, on that note, Max, I think we can't go any further on this podcast without

saying a couple of thanks, first of all, beginning with our sponsors, Heritage Parts

Centre, that have sponsored this podcast for so long now, so long, in fact, that our regular

listeners will know what I'm about to say.

And that is quite simply, heritagepartscentre.com, code of 9 works 10, gets you up to 10% off

your basket.

There's a whole host of Porsche parts on there, whether you're rocking a 356 to a 997 and

anything in between.

Heritage Parts Centre have helped us turn the lights on with this podcast for a very

long time.

So we're so grateful to those guys.

So a big thanks and a public thanks for that.

To our, yeah, it's down here as former presenters, Max and Neil as well, we'd like to give a

big shout out to Neil, who's also recently joined the collective, Mr. Andy B for editing

every single episode you've ever listened to of Nine Works Radio.

Andy B has listened to it several times over, usually before you, and punted out some quality

content, cutting out all sorts of guff along the way as well.

So a big thanks to Andy B, all of our Nine Works Marketplace partners, including Paragon

Porsche, Porsche Centre Bournemouth, RPM Technic, Lakeside Classics, Harbour Cars, Williams

Crawford, Cameron Sports Cars, and Steve Ball Specialist Cars amongst others.

And finally, and probably most importantly for you listening at home, because for a start,

if you didn't download half a million of these, we'd be struggling for content today.

It goes without saying.

But also you kind of give us purpose.

I've personally always said that if nobody listened to this podcast, and I'm sure it

will happen one day, I'd very much still like to have a setup and a forum where we can just

talk about cars with our mates.

And that's certainly how I see you guys, Max and Andy, and even a load of our panelists

and guests that we've had in along the way.

Just the downloads and the support and the listenership and that love that we've felt

for such a long time, particularly from those in the Driven Not Hidden Collective, just

gives a little bit more purpose and push us to perhaps aim a little bit higher, dive into

people at Porsche and give a platform for those people to tell their stories, which

we're so passionate about and we view as so important.

So it all goes into the mix.

And as Mark Anderson said last week, you know, he said it was great to see how the spaghetti

is made.

And the listeners are absolutely the secret sauce on that dish.

Absolutely.

So thank you to everybody.

I'd say that the parmesan on top, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Good tasting cheese.

Yeah.

So I mean, Andy and I, we're obviously on every week selling our wares.

But Max, what have you been up to recently then, buddy?

That's a good question.

I suppose most recently I have collected the Boxster after a little bit after my first

after it let me down for the first time.

So after two, two and a half years of very reliable motoring, other than when Ben Bailey

broke it, when he broke the broke the button to get the roof down.

Other than that, it's been 100 percent reliable, which I at the risk of stating the obvious,

I really value in a car.

You know, that's the main thing I want for a car is when I get into it, it starts and

goes and gets home again, to be honest.

And I was coming home as a couple of weeks ago now, and I had a I had a red warning light

for a coolant leak, a do not drive on warning.

So I was I was very close to home, so I limped home, got onto the driveway, which everyone

knows is on a slope because I've known about it all the time and got out and saw quite

a large amount of the twenty five liters of coolant, which are in a 981 Boxster coming

out onto the driveway.

I thought, oh, bollocks.

So first thought was to take some pictures of it and send them to Chris right tune and

say this is coming your way.

And and that's what happened.

I had a little song and dance with the first.

I hope that maybe they would take it because they wanted to try and fix it.

I knew they wouldn't be able to and then they wouldn't take it either.

So Chris sent one of his guys over and off it went.

It turned out, actually, that the coolant leak or the big coolant leak was caused by

a small oil leak, which had probably been happening for quite a long time because it

had eroded.

Would that be the right word?

The oil leak had eroded the coolant pipe.

OK, so the hot oil had, yeah, sort of dripped on and sort of worn it through, eroded it,

whatever the word is, perished it.

Yeah.

And so that led to the big coolant leak.

So the coolant leak was quite an easy fix, other than the fact it's a pressurized system

and there's loads of coolant and it takes a long time to actually refill that.

But the small oil leak actually took a bit of fixing because, as Chris pointed out, 981

and 991 generation cars, pad them aside, are pretty reliable.

So he didn't have a lot of experience of this kind of fault.

And looking on, you know, when you go on to that sort of Porsche mainframe system to look

at parts and sort of all of that sort of thing, it gives you some guidance.

That was not very helpful in this case and sort of looked like he's going to have to

take the engine apart.

Take the engine out, wasn't it?

Yeah, you know, so it looked like it could be really quite serious.

So what Chris decided to do was reach out to some of his friends, some of his partners

in the industry and try and, you know, share a bit of knowledge, gain a bit of shared knowledge.

And actually it was Scotty at Barnsport came back and said, I've actually seen this a couple

of times, you know, over the years.

I guess, you know, his OPC history and time with those cars probably had a bit more exposure

to them.

Cause it looked like maybe timing chain, you know, new parts and new tensioner and

all of that sort of thing.

Scotty said actually the last time that he'd done it, it was actually, it could be fixed

just by a careful adjustment and set up of the part rather than a replacement.

So Chris thought, okay, well let's, you know, let's try that route first of all.

And it, and it worked.

Excellent.

Big money saver.

So a big money saver.

It's a big money saver.

So, um, you know, grateful to, grateful to Chris, you know, the lads in the first instance,

but also Scotty for sharing, you know, sharing his, his knowledge with the community and,

you know, saving me a load of money.

So I, I picked it up on Saturday lunchtime from Chris.

He came in on Saturday.

So Mandy could give me a lift over, pick it up off.

I went, so, um, so you're back in love with it.

Well, yeah, I was going to say, Max, describe, describe to us like the ownership journey

from when it started doing a wee on your drive to, to getting it back.

Well, it's, it's, it's potentially on the way out anyway.

So when that, and actually when that happened, it was actually the second thing that had

happened that day.

So, um, as we know, Ben famously broke the button to get the roof down, came off in his

hand, sir.

And, um, and to, to replace that, you have to, you know, if you think about that, the

sort of tower button on that generation of cars that has all the roof stuff and all the

other buttons in it basically have to replace the whole panel.

So at right, June, I ended up with this great, you know, whole array, this tower of various,

all of the possible buttons on it.

Some that hadn't some that I didn't just to get the roof up and down switch fixed.

So we put that in and, um, the other day or a couple of weeks ago now I was driving

and I was putting the button up, putting the roof up on the button and I thought, Oh my

God, it's loose.

It don't feel right.

I said, Oh God, not again.

Not already.

How can it be again?

And anyway, so I put the roof up and I carried on with what I was doing and I sort of forgot

about it.

And then, um, after my, uh, my, my detail and my Valita had been there the other day,

I noticed that the, the little logo with the roof up picture on that switch was gone.

Oh no.

But what it meant, I suppose actually was that it's not the switch itself, which is

loose or breaking or cause it is quite new, but that little insert, that picture insert

was, was loose and it's probably gone at my detailers Hoover, which is a massive pain

in the ass because it seemed like a customer of those, I would have to buy another whole

bloody thing.

Yeah.

Um, which wasn't a huge amount of money.

Uh, I mean it was a few hundred quid, but, and obviously I'm not up for that, but if

it's a car that you're trying to sell, especially in a private sales situation, it just doesn't

look good.

So as if someone comes along to have a look at the car and there's one of those things

missing, it just looks a bit shit, doesn't it?

Can't you get a Craig justice to come down and just like pen you on, on delicately on

the console?

Well, maybe, maybe.

But, but that, so that will happen on the same day that the coolant leak happened.

So I was just like, forget about it.

It's done.

I'm over.

I'm out of it.

Chris, I don't even want it back.

You keep it.

Yeah.

Uh, but then obviously I picked it up and it's about 45 minutes from, from, from Chris's

back to my house.

Some really good roads had the top down, even though it was a bit cold heater on, had a

lovely drive, you know, really, really lovely drive.

So everything was good in the world again, but, um, uh, but it probably still is not

for any of those two reasons.

It probably still is.

I think after I've had it, um, serviced at MIT, which comes around in, uh, December,

then I'll start to think more seriously about, about the next step.

I mean, obviously springtime just before spring is like the golden period to sell a set up,

isn't it?

I think we've seen not just on the nine works marketplace, but elsewhere as well.

Like there's a few spiders pop up this time of year where people realize that they've

kind of got their fill for the, for the summer season and whatnot.

So in terms of you as a, as a fellow soft top owner, that, that, that possibly works

out in terms of timing quite nicely.

Yeah.

I mean, I've in my mind, I've set a sort of goal of, um, next year's nine works, North

Thumblin road trip, uh, which I've, I've put my, put my hand up for, um, so hoping

to be involved in that, I thought, okay, so that's towards the end of March.

So if you let's maybe a little bit early actually in the season to have, to have, to have traded

a soft top, but I thought if I am going to buy another car, that'd be a great debut for

a new car.

So I've sort of got that in the back of my mind.

I should, I should probably actually run on into April really, uh, before I sell it.

But the reality is if I am going to buy another car, if that car comes up sometime over the

winter, I will probably just trade the Boxster as part of the deal and just, you know, rather

than miss out on a car that I want to buy, uh, you know, to try and get a few more shekels

for the Boxster.

I'll just do the deal.

Nice.

Okay.

We'll see.

Yeah.

So yeah.

So by buying, buying boots, maybe being strapped on then buying boots may be strapped on.

Excellent.

So the only one, I think it's our like third most downloaded episode is I swapped my 911

for a Boxster.

So are you staying Boxster or are you going back to a 911?

Should we shelve the episode or?

Well, it was all a mistake.

In terms of content, probably I sold my Boxster for a 911 probably isn't that interesting,

is it?

I don't think it'd be such a big hit.

It wouldn't be such a big hit, would it?

So I better not do that.

But no, I mean, it's not about not liking the car.

It's just about only having one Porsche sports car, you know, so if I want to try something

else that I have to change, you know, there's no serious option.

Having failed to negotiate a Boxster in Sir Mandy's space on the driveway, I've tried

quite hard and failed, you know, so I've given up on that.

So, you know, if I want to try a different flavor of Porsche sports car, then it has

to be one out, one in.

It's had a good innings, the Boxster, hasn't it?

Yeah, two and a half years.

Yeah, yeah.

You know, it's no failure in your eyes.

It's no failure.

So but but I have I have other, as we all do, other desires.

Yeah.

And you know what?

It's becoming our latest kind of saying on the podcast, isn't it?

You know, Porsche, it makes so many good cars.

There are so many excellent Porsche sports cars out there.

You know, we're only limited, of course, by the bank balance, the odd, the odd, the odd

detail of financial.

But but, you know, really, it's like the time in which to get through all of them.

So I think, again, your journey, it's so wonderful that it's highlighted in that public sphere

and public domain as it so successfully was with transferring out of 911 into Boxster.

I think you've really led the way for a lot of people to consider that who perhaps otherwise

wouldn't have done.

And yeah, again, your your journey dipping back into something else.

And we're so lucky there are so many sports cars that allow us or so many different models

that allow us to try these things while still holding on to that same badge that allows

us to see our friends every Sunday at Cars and Coffee or a track day on a road trip,

whatever, you know, and still enjoy that same sort of level of engineering.

Yeah.

It was it was interesting.

I had a thought that occurred to me.

I had had breakfast with James Good last week and he and he and I were chatting as as we

all do about cars that we like and things that we'd consider and, you know, what the

next step might be.

And other other cars, you know, amongst the cars I like that are potentially achievable

is, as a lot of people know, I really like those or I've grown to really like the Boxster

25.

You know, I didn't like him when they came out.

I didn't like those sort of JDM style wheels.

But the more I see them in the flesh, I think, wow, I really like that.

I've softened to those as well.

I was.

Yeah, I was pure hate when that came out.

Yeah.

So, yeah, me too.

So I really like those.

And I also I've never had a Cayman and, you know, I really like those GTS four liter Caymans.

So they're both cars that I'm really interested in.

But in the law of diminishing returns, as my dad always says, going from a from my nine

eight one box dress, which is mega and having to spend the same amount again as I bought

that for, let alone what I'm going to sell it for on something that is a step on on the

same platform, that's that's that I'm struggling with that.

So talking with James last week, I thought, actually, maybe one of those is the car after

next.

So I'm maybe going to step in a different direction with a thought that I may then come

back to it afterwards because I don't think I can go from, you know, I don't think I could

bring myself to sell my car and get a box of twenty five just just because of the huge

cost of exchange.

Yeah.

For for some similar qualities.

So so so I'm I'm already thinking of the one after and haven't even bought the next one

yet.

That's quintessential, like peak Max Newman, isn't it?

Well, you know, I'm already on car seat.

Yeah.

I love it.

That's so good.

You mentioned driveways.

That's quite interesting.

So a week for last, Mrs.

Sibs and I were up in Chelsea at a friend's wedding, and I've not been around those parts

for a long time.

What absolutely amazed me.

And if this isn't an Instagram page, by the way, it should be because I personally would

be all over it is curbside Porsches.

The amount of Porsches just parked at the side of the road in that particular kind of

microcosm of London is just outrageous.

Like you can walk from Porsche to Porsche to Porsche down the street.

And I don't know, I just it kind of reminded me, Max, like when when you and I were in

California a week before Rendsport, when you flew out, Andy was you know, we would see

so many Porsches again, park curbside and bear in mind, it was tipping into the autumn,

wasn't it?

Which is, you know, in this country, at least where cars kind of get put away for that for

the harsh months.

But because, you know, the state there just has year round great weather and sunshine

there all the time.

And we used to see three, five, six is park curbside.

And to me, I just think they look awesome.

Yeah.

It's just seeing like seeing it in the wild and park next to like, yeah, an old scooter

or whatever it is.

I just think this is amazing.

Absolutely amazing.

And I'll tell you what as well.

There was a lot of 911s.

You might think it's all Cayenne's and McCann's and there were a lot of them, but loads of

911s, I mean, loads of luxury vehicles anyway, half of them covered in so much pigeon shit

you couldn't chisel it off.

But like, yeah, I just I loved it.

So if there isn't a page, someone needs to create an Instagram page, Porsche curbside.

I just think it'd be interesting.

There you go.

How many of them have you taken pictures of that you should they should be all up on your

story on your Instagram story?

Well, yeah, it was it was one of them, really.

So we're walking along.

We walk into the registry office, Mrs. Sibs is in toe in heels, slightly, yeah, like damp

underfoot, shall we say, and she's clinging on to us.

And I'm trying to turn around to get a picture of like a, you know, an 05997 cab.

And she's like, are you taking the Michael?

Basically.

Yeah.

I can hear it now.

And then the other part of the registry office as well as a came in our part.

There's oh, my God.

You know, there's only like forty five of them in the collective or whatever it is now.

But definitely room for another one.

Wandered over had a look.

PDK London friendly.

But yeah, again, like you just you can't move for them there.

It's like this weird sort of like utopia in a way.

Yeah.

So many records.

But again, just so many 9-11.

It's wonderful.

Wonderful place.

Wonderful.

It's cool, isn't it?

I mean, I I go into the registry office.

I I go into London into Marleybone as I spoke now.

So I do a lot of walking from Marleybone, you know, across town.

And you know, sometimes I look for particular street park cars now that I now that I know

where where they are.

But there's also the you know, the joy of spotting a new, you know, seeing a 9-11 silhouette

in a line of parked cars and you think, all right, if you've got time, I'll go down that

road because I want to walk past that one because I don't think I've seen that one before.

And it's cool, isn't it?

So it's a car spot stream.

Yeah.

Particularly with that.

Yeah.

Like the quintessential London architecture.

Yeah.

And, you know, street furniture.

It just looks so cool.

And actually, Ed in the DNHC 40th anniversary owner, he's quite fond on because that's his

sort of haunts and he'll pop up on his Instagram stories.

I mean, there was like a white 9-5-9 that went just past casually in the street a couple

of weeks ago, which I think is owned by a French guy.

And Ed was saying that the number plate is we O-U-I 9-5-9.

I mean, that is just, you know, that's that's amazing.

Yeah.

It's amazing.

But yeah, just I mean, so cool.

And then as soon as you kind of just come out of that kind of small postcode, you just

you're back into reality.

They're not.

Yeah.

You could almost.

I personally I can see why there's like that 15 year old car spotting thing happened, because

it's just a joy to see.

I mean, the next day we got up walking down the street and what's what's my God, what

my mind has just gone complete blank.

But like late 90s Lamborghini, like the Lamborghini Murcielago?

No, no, no.

Late 80s.

Oh, Countach.

Countach.

Yes.

The one with like the my Lamborghini knowledge is awful.

Very angular.

Wedge shaped.

Very wedge shaped.

Yeah.

Just drove past just down the road.

And then the bright orange thing behind this like, I don't know what Aston Martin it was,

but it had a big wing on it.

And I know they don't usually.

And it's, you know, I mean, obviously it didn't matter to Laura, not one bit, but you're just

there and you're going like it.

Where are we?

You don't you don't see that.

You don't see that down in sleepy Dorset.

I'll tell you.

Well, I don't know.

On sandbanks, you do.

Yeah, we do.

There's a few around.

Yeah, but not I mean, that concentration.

Gravy.

You know, different gravy.

And again, that meant meant nothing to Mrs.

Sibbs.

Do you reckon she spotted someone from Made in Chelsea?

I mean, I wouldn't have the world.

Yeah.

But yeah.

Cool, man.

Love.

Yeah.

So, yeah, that's that's the bombs.

Bottom line is Portia curbside needs to happen.

Yeah.

Grampage.

What it does mean, though, something I learned when I was researching when I bought my brown

nine nine one was that during the research for nine on ones, something I learned was

that I think it was a Porsche inspector guy that I was speaking to said the surprising

thing about nine on ones, given that, you know, at that time, even more than now, they

were still quite new.

They're pretty reliable.

That sort of thing.

He said.

But the thing you have to look out for is the number of them that have been crashed

and not, you know, not spooned into the boonies on a track day and that sort of thing.

That's normal.

It'll just traffic shunts that a lot of them have that have had some kind of front or back

end repair and associated respray.

But that's just regular little, you know, parking, more driving things that that's and

happens to nine on ones and other Porsches of that era because they're so usable and

people have them as their single car in London.

They street park them.

They drive them in.

Yeah.

I've been in the town a lot and that happens so that, you know, it's not that, you know,

it's not about looking for gravel rash on the underside and that sort of thing.

It's about looking for the for the parking things and that kind of thing.

Yeah.

I say that's a great point, Max.

You know, and actually speaking to a specialist a few years ago and they said what they've

seen, this was particularly with like early PDK gearboxes and on seven point two early

on and one point one was like coking basically.

And it's where in normal mode it just it gets the one and a half K revs and then it changes

up.

So you're not getting a really good, really good rev through unless you're in first gear,

you know, 40 mile an hour down the old King's Road.

So yeah, they were seeing a bit of that.

And again, like you said, alongside park.

I mean, yeah.

Looking at the wheels, most of them curbs, obviously it's kind of a consumable, isn't

it?

I guess.

Yeah.

Just part of the part of the lifestyle for where it is something to be aware of if you're

buying a London car, possibly.

Yeah.

You know, you just just dented the value of any London car there.

Yeah.

We'll do your diligence.

Do your diligence.

Yeah.

Amazing.

Yeah.

Any other any other business gents or like news before we get stuck into the meat and

bones of today's pod?

Let's get stuck in.

Yeah.

I'm ready to crack on.

OK.

The task in hand.

Yes.

Without further ado then.

So to celebrate our small milestone, which we've only mentioned a dozen or so times in

the opening 31 minutes, is our half a million download milestone.

So to celebrate, the three of us decided to dive into the Nineworks marketplace.

We've each got our fantasy half a million squid locked and loaded in the Skyrocket.

Shoes on, the buying boots are on.

And what basically what are we filling our garage with?

So there's no real parameters to this.

It's going to be quite interesting to see in which way every one of us have turned.

It's just yet you've got half a million.

How are you spending it on the marketplace?

It was a difficult one because I did ask, you know, are there any parameters that we've

we've we've got so many cars that we can pick that we've got particular use cases?

And you said, no, the floor is open.

That threw me into total confusion on what to do.

Really?

Yeah.

There's only one I see on the marketplace.

I started sweating.

I just don't know.

I wasn't going to spend much.

Was I?

Yeah.

What's it like on the other side of that bridge?

I don't know.

Well, I took it as I was keeping my.

So, OK, I did.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So you've got to then.

Yeah.

He's gone into crypto.

Yeah.

OK.

Max, you're up.

I'm up.

OK.

Max, did you find it easy?

I mean, you know, I think I've done a good job.

Yeah.

Pretty, pretty, pretty easy, pretty easy for me.

Pretty easy for me.

I mean, it's good fun.

There are one hundred and thirty two cars on the marketplace.

That's plenty of choice.

There's only two of them, two of one hundred thirty two that you can't buy in this game.

So it's.

I see that.

Yeah.

There's only three cars to choose from.

So you can't have the Carrera GT RPM because that's well north of a million quid.

You also can't have the beautiful four cam three, five, six at Williams Crawford because

that's just over budget as well.

Do you know what else?

Everything else is fair game.

If that was in budget.

It might be a one car garage for me, it might have been done.

Yeah.

Because that thing.

There might be three cars on there that we can't buy, to be fair.

I may have bought one of them in real life, but that's for another day.

But there might be.

We'll see if anyone mentions it on here.

OK, OK.

If it ends up in your fantasy garage, then we'll we'll we'll see.

But yes, there is three.

But I did I did see that Carrera GT and I was going to pop in our group chat and say

shall we plan Z plan?

But I mean, where would that where would that be kept?

Do you know what I mean?

There's too many variables in it.

I think my garage is too short.

Yeah.

My driveway is too steep.

Yeah.

So it's your house.

It's a done deal.

I mean, it wouldn't fit in my garage, but I tell you what, I'd knock the garage down

and build another one.

Whatsoever.

Do you know what I mean?

We'll park it in the lounge.

I'll move the dog out.

It don't matter.

RPM have got that thing.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

They've got a lot of those going through their place, don't they?

Yeah.

GTs.

Wow.

Yeah.

So something just just as slightly as an aside.

that I noticed as I was looking was a bit of a maybe it's the sort of cars that I'm interested

in or it's a you know, because it's a relatively sensible price point, but I noticed 80 grand.

What are interesting and for me really tempting selection of cars there are.

So there's a obviously I was thinking of the 50th Lakeside, you know, which comes in

at just a whisker under 80 grand and I love that.

Always look at that.

But I'd also noticed that the red 992 Carrera S that Paragon had had previously has come

back and that's the same price is 80 grand.

And when I did the T911 article, if you remember that, you know, the price point was probably

110 grand at that point, 115 even.

And my conclusion in that article was you could, you know, you could buy a 50 Yara or

you could buy a 992 Carrera S for the same price and the 50 Yara would be, you know,

you'd be doing pretty well, you know, you wouldn't be missing out on anything really

apart from tech.

And it's interesting that they've stayed the same price and at 80 grand, they're both still

really tempting.

I think I think that car at Paragon catches my eye because it looks good in guards red

and it's got silver wheels.

It just looks kind of cool.

So I thought I really like both of those.

But then I've seen that 996 Turbo S cab, the black one at RPM.

I always think a 996 Turbo S is quite a cool car.

Again, same price, 80 grand, different gravy, but a really, really cool car.

But then RPM have also got that lovely silver 996.2 GT3, again, 80 grand.

I thought what an interesting mix, you know, you could play this game and just buy cars

for 80 grand and have quite a cool selection.

Yeah.

Interesting.

And how many different use cases do all of those cars encompass?

You could pick those those four cars alone could pretty much be like your perfect garage.

Yeah.

I know.

You know, all wheel drive, all wheel drive, exquisite daily driver in the Turbo S, which

is what Mark Anderson last week highlighted as his Gemini week on the pod, GT3 996 for

your track fun.

The Adversary is a special place to sit as well.

And what I can't remember what the fourth one was.

The 992 S, you know, you could smoke about in that all day, every day and have a really

nice time.

Definitely.

Yeah.

It's great, particularly where such good point, Max, because as I was saying, but where new

product has really kicked on and we don't need to give any more airtime to the fact,

that the the breadth and scope of availability of quality used Porsche is massive.

And you don't need to encroach on that six figures to get it really.

No.

Yeah.

You know, there's there's there's a lot of choice in it.

And the thick end of the wedge is at the lower end of the wedge, if that makes sense.

Yeah.

So that's so lovely.

That's so lovely.

Think not Ferrari.

It's the other way around, isn't it?

Yeah.

So I think you pushed me into a right old quandary.

I hadn't seen the anniversary.

I've missed that.

Oh, dear.

Well, I've got to relook at my list now.

Oh, goodness.

Oh, you bugger.

Two SCs and a 50 euro, right?

That'll do.

So by which parameters, then, have you decided, gents, to select your half a million squid

legends?

Well, I I worked on the basis that I've got the McCann and that's a fixture.

That's not going anywhere.

As part of my failed negotiation to get Mandy into a Boxster, where we've what I've actually

managed to do is get her away from the EV thing.

And she's interested in a mini convertible.

So so I figured I could probably trade the Boxster and get her a nice mini convertible.

So the box has gone in this scenario, in my mind, we've got them, my McCann and Mandy's

mini.

So is that added to your budget?

No, no.

Okay.

Because I've used it to buy the mini.

Okay.

All right.

Got it.

So what I've got is half a million quid, basically to build a little not a fantasy carriage, you

know, a real little collection of Porsches for myself, which which is, you know, just

about nice things really, as far as I'm concerned, so I've got half a million quid to buy a collection

of nice things.

So simple as that.

Okay.

Collection of nice things.

Very nice.

Yes.

Okay.

Andy B, how have you attacked it?

Well, I started off by spending all my wedge as quick as possible and just having a couple

of cars, really.

And then I sort of backed off of that after looking at what else was available.

And I've I've my collection is five, five, five.

Yeah.

Five cars.

Yeah.

Lots, lots of to and fro on that.

Yeah.

Lots and lots of to and fro.

So, yeah, I'll take you through that as we go, I guess.

Yeah.

So I love I love how your first port of call was basically to go to Vegas on it and, you

know, sort from the top, you know, highest to lowest.

What am I getting?

Not a GT.

Oh, then you go down from there and then you kind of peddle back from that and gone, right,

let's get some.

So I have.

Yeah.

I went for some biggies and kind of then thought I'd miss out on that and could really do with

one that does this and does that.

So, yeah, mine's a five car garage.

I don't know how I'm going to build one of those, but this is fancy world, isn't it?

So, yeah, I've got a five car garage.

It's the future.

And how many have you got, Max?

Well, I got down to a short list of from one hundred thirty.

I got down to a short list of eight.

OK, I've narrowed it down to end up with four, four.

OK, so I've got four short lists for a good have a healy.

What's your process?

I've got gone for four.

OK, I've got 15 grand left.

I can't. There is.

Yeah, you could you could you could I borrow three.

No, I knew you'd go over.

He always goes over, doesn't he?

You're three grand.

Unbelievable.

I thought there's negotiation in there and I think because there's two choices where I

could go either way. But if you're having that anniversary at lakeside, I could twist.

But I've got I've got four cars and I'm taking this from a point of view whereby

I'm only down to one car at present at home.

Anyway, a little Irish that is that's gone.

So, yeah, my fantasy world, like the garage is just completely empty.

How can I fill it?

And I mean, I don't mind diving in and go for it.

So I decided a bit like I can't remember what the saying was, but Mark Anderson said it last week.

I loved it where it was like with the wardrobe where you can you know, you've got it does everything.

Basically, it's your wardrobe, isn't it?

There we go. Yeah, yeah.

Your gear covers all bases.

And that's kind of what I wanted from my four cars.

So it's not so much that there is a daily driver in there.

It's the case of every morning when you drop down into the garage, you turn the light on and you just stand in there, you know, scratching your chin again.

Which car do I feel like today?

Chiefly governed by the task at hand, but also sometimes it might just be the Friday and you got the Friday feeling and you want to dig the car out and whatnot.

So the four bases that I wanted was I wanted a track car.

I wanted an open top Porsche.

I wanted an air cooled Porsche and I just wanted something modern, which is just, yeah, kind of nice to just a nice place to be.

So for the track car, and this is by far my biggest spend, I'm straight up the road to RPM Technic 992 GT3 RS.

I've been completely brainwashed by what I've seen on Instagram for the last six months of people hooning GT3 RSs all over the world and the banshee noise they make and just how amazing they are.

And again, you know, that wing is so obnoxious, isn't it?

But having driven the car, I just I love that package so much as a real fiat of engineering.

And ironically, although it's not, the example at RPM Technic is almost identical to the former press car in certainly in terms of colour, if not spec.

So ice grey metallic, I think the press car was white, but to all intents and purposes from a distance.

Vysak package as well with the club sport package, PCCBs, I would want that on that sort of car.

Front axle lift, like, yes, because there will be days where, you know what, I just want to have a cruise along the peninsula in my GT3 RS.

I'm going to need the front axle lift.

The wheel colour as well.

Need to find that.

Blue.

Yeah, what is the name? Indigo blue.

Yeah, indigo blue.

Yeah.

Yeah. Forge magnesium wheels in indigo blue.

I just think that as a package looks absolutely sensational.

4000 miles on the clock.

It's up at 247.

Interestingly, Porsche Bournemouth have got one with just 1818 miles on the clock and it's up for like 30k more.

I'm not so fussed about paying the 30k privilege to be the first person to drive the car out the door and then be worried about driving it because it's too low mileage.

Yeah, I like the fact that the one at RPM Technic has done 4000 miles, which I think is really admirable on a 2024 car.

So I just want to jump into that and continue its story.

It's such an awesome car.

So that would be my track car.

And again, you saw Randy on the track day at Porsche Bournemouth recently at Thruxton.

Just those cars sounded and looked so mega on track.

Frightening pace they carry.

So that's half your budget blown already.

That is half the budget gone.

Yeah, admittedly.

And I can't lie, I think half of you would kind of worry that it's a lot of money tied up in one car.

But hey, YOLO, someone's given us half a million quid.

Should we should we break you off there?

Otherwise you're going to spill all your beans in one go, aren't you?

Don't mind, mate.

Should we should we do a couple?

Do you want to do one hand between us?

Yeah. Yeah.

OK, if you want to spread the load, otherwise you'll be getting dry.

We don't want you dry.

All right. Sounds good.

Sounds good. I'm going to go in with my highest price one like you have with your with your first one.

OK, it's at the absolute opposite end of the scale to you, as you'd probably imagine.

I'm going to have a little wander down to Williams Crawford to go and purchase their nineteen fifty four three five six pre a bent window coupe at one three five thousand pounds.

As I said earlier, I would have gone for that four cam if it was in budget.

But hey, this has allowed me to have four other cars.

So I mean, it's all good.

It's all good. But that thing just.

Yeah, totally.

As I said, the other end of the scale to your good self.

I would just love to.

Cherish that thing and drive.

Lovely. I looked at that and it's a very pretty car, isn't it?

I just want to join in with the three five six crew doing their yearly trips off here, there and everywhere.

They just look so cool. And I'd love that.

What I think I've actually seen, I'm pretty sure we've seen that in the showroom down there, haven't we?

It's been around for a little while. I'm sure.

Yeah. So if I'm right, it came from Texas.

Yeah, it did come from Texas and it's had it's had a restoration done on it, but it's never had any body work done on it because it was found in a barn.

So perfect as far as, you know, no rust, no dents, anything like that.

It's just had a. A good restoration as far as paint works concerned, so it's not been through the the rust mill, as it were.

Yeah. Yeah. So it's I mean, it looks like a car mine red, but it says it's refinished in its factory original Turkish red.

Yeah, it's a bit more so maroony, isn't it?

Yes. A lovely colour on that on the three delicate, gentle three, five, six hips.

Yeah. Oh, look at that thing. Beautiful car.

I can see you in that, Andy. I think that's a great show.

I can, you know, I can. I'll tell you what, that is such a contrast to a twenty twenty four GT3 RS.

I love that. That's that's why this podcast works.

I can I can I can see you stepping out of that.

Yeah. Would you be on the millia millia with it?

If I could. Yeah, absolutely.

Yeah, it would work for it. It'd be illegible.

Do you reckon? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

That'd be fantastic, wouldn't it?

I can see the two of you on the peninsula into sandbanks in those two cars, though, in the three, five, six and in the GT3 RS going for breakfast.

It works. It works in my mind.

It does. It does. Yeah.

Oh, go on. Go on. There you go.

So, Max, if you're if you're rocking up to join us then for a late brunch down from Oxford in your top whack marketplace sports car, what you in?

Well, my my most expensive car, I think I've actually bought the most expensive car with this thing.

I've actually spent more than half the budget on which is going to be more than half.

Potentially, I think I know what you've gone for.

It's a controversial choice in the eyes of one of my fellow hosts.

It's not going to be me. I know which one you're going for.

It's going to be the speeds, the hater.

So this is a car. This is a car that I.

So there are there are some boxes being ticked here.

So one of my criteria of, you know, that I wanted to meet in these in these nice cars, I was going to buy for myself because I wanted a modern motorsport engine.

So I wanted the DFI GT engine in it. So that had to be in something.

So there's a lot of choice of cars that have that engine.

I also wanted somewhere an open top thing.

And but it's the particular spec of this car that I've I think is really, really nice.

And you're absolutely right, Andy. It's the nine nine one speedster RPM, which is GT silver with platinum wheels.

It doesn't have the heritage interior, but it's a really, really nice interior.

That the deviated stitching is a really lovely color and it's got hamstooth inserts.

And ever since it's been RPM, I've looked at it periodically.

I've talked to various people who could potentially afford it about why they should buy it.

Nobody has done yet. But I really, really, really like it.

And I think that I would really enjoy that car.

You know, it's it's really quite special. I know from some angles they look a little bit awkward, especially with the roof up.

You know, it's a big it's a big panel at the back, isn't it?

But I think I really, really like the car. And when I was at Porsches by the lake hanging out with Ben and PP,

PP reckons they're they're a little bit of a sleeper and they could go up.

So that's PPS. Not that I've ever bought a car for an investment purpose,

but it did help to justify my mind blowing more than half the budget on one single car.

I think it's quite a special thing. I really, really some important boxes for me in terms of having that motor and also being open top.

I think I would. I think it's got garage appeal. I think it's got driving appeal.

I think it's got standing next to it looking proud appeal. It's got a lot of appeal.

Yeah. Fluffers would call it the open top. Ah.

So in that sort of sense, you could say there's possibly some mileage in terms of values.

I love the contrast stitching on the seats. Yeah. What colour is that?

That's really interesting, isn't it? Is it like an orangey beige?

It looks like an orange. Yeah. But and again, with like the houndstooth seat centres as well on the 918 buckets.

So it's lovely. Pretty exquisitely presented.

And again, like the it's definitely got a lot of extended leather on that.

Again, the the. What do you call it?

Base of the windscreen where it meets the dash on there and around where the sport chrono clock would usually reside as well as up and along the dash.

Like there's a lot of a lot of that contrast stitching in there.

I think that is absolutely beautiful. I have to say it's like an orangey brown, isn't it?

Yeah. When you look through the photos, it kind of changes.

It doesn't actually say in the listing what the stitching is.

And maybe it's quite sure it's certainly unusual, but yes, lovely.

I really think it's lovely. Lovely choice.

What is refreshing is no roundels or numbers or any of that.

Yeah. None of that nonsense. None of that nonsense.

It looks most elegant. I mean, yeah, you know, not not my jam as well documented.

But yeah, again, I think, hey, I can see you in it, Max.

I hope it happens for you, buddy. And also for our little Sandbanks brunch meetup.

That's a that's a pretty good third twist there.

Third flavor on the plate. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm very. Yeah, I'm quite.

I mean, it was it was a it was a ballsy move, even with a fictitious half a million quid to do more than half the budget on a single car.

Yeah. It took some it took some thinking and I did waiver a couple of being so bullish with that one.

But I just thought it's got so much going for it. And I think it really worked for me.

So I stuck with it. So there we go. I like I like it.

OK, so that kind of concludes our our double whiskey purchases, if you like.

So we've blown the majority of our of our wedge on on those specific cars.

So we look at car two. What I am going to do next is tackle the open top car because it's kind of it's everything that that nine on two GT3 RS isn't.

It is nevertheless a special car. It's from Cameron Sports Cars.

I want to caveat this by saying Simon at Cameron is such a legend and he supported us on this podcast in many ways, really.

But like over the last year or so has become a marketplace partner.

Simon is just too busy to upload his cars.

So they don't. Yeah, they don't often appear on our marketplace, which is a great shame.

And this is a public call out, really, Simon.

So please upload the mates. But he has the most amazing stock anyway.

And Andy, you and I should go and see Simon soon and have a look around in person.

But he has the most beautiful Boxster 987 RS60 Spyder for sale.

It's been for sale for a little while. It's up for twenty two thousand pounds.

It's worth every penny of that and more as far as I'm concerned.

The RS60 first came into my conscience when Toby took it on the Irish road trip last year.

He let me drive it, which was so, so cool. Great package anyway out the box.

The RX60 is a couple of extra tweaks here and there's like a 10 horsepower increase and whatnot.

I love the fact it's got that bright red interior.

This one doesn't have the bright red hood to go with.

But I don't mind that. I don't mind that.

I feel like it's when the when the hood's up, it's very business like then you put the roof down for the full party.

So that would be my smoker. The RS60 Spyder at Cameron, that's 22K.

Wonder how many of them you could buy for the 992 RS.

Andy, what's car number two or five for you?

Well, I'm going to you kind of you almost sort of said that was your daily smoker, didn't you?

To a certain extent, you're kind of intimating it a little bit.

No, no, they're all they're they're all they're all equals.

They're all fair game. Yeah, they're all. All right. All right.

Well, I'm going to go for my daily smoker then.

And I'm going to join Max in the McCann world because there is a absolutely gorgeous in my eyes.

Apart from the rear lights, McCann GTS, which is at Paragon in Carmine red with platinum satin wheels.

The best colour choice for wheels for a red car in my eyes.

And it's just bloody gorgeous. Look at it.

Gorgeous. A former marketplace gem of the week. That is.

Is it? I'd forgotten about that. It is.

And alongside the Turkish red three, five, six, I'm detecting the red collection.

Right. And this could be the last of the red. OK, I don't know.

Yeah. It does point that way, though, doesn't it?

Going back to my red roots. Yeah.

Well, again, no privacy class either.

But you know, is it? Yeah, that's nice, isn't it?

Yeah. Same as mine. Yeah.

Good specking. As I was going to say, as the McCann expert, man, what's the spec?

Yeah. How how how's that speck with you?

I have looked at it. It's a really nice car.

A really, really nice car. It's got leather rather than what do they call it?

Race text. Yeah. Which I think is quite nice.

Although some would say not very GTSC, but, you know, McCann's got a job to do,

hasn't it? Race text isn't always that helpful, I don't think.

No. Especially when Cosmox put in there and done his business.

So but it's got black calipers, which is really good.

It's got sunroof, which is really good.

It's got the aforementioned non gangster glass.

Yeah. And the what is there much different spec to yours, actually?

No. Is that the same wheels?

Same wheels. Best wheels.

The best wheels. Definitely the best wheels.

I've got the roof rails.

That's probably the most significant difference between this car and my car.

Other than the colour, obviously. Yeah.

But but no, it's a real nice. It's a lovely car, actually.

I was I had a good look at it. I thought that's right up my street.

Amazing. So not not only is that a stellar choice for you, Andy,

it's also a former marketplace gem of the week.

And now it comes Max approved as well.

So yeah, it's got a lot going for it.

Maybe we should maybe we should upload a new photo,

headline photo for that that says Max approved across it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, that's quality. That's very good.

All right. Yeah. Max, what's your like car number two or four then?

So my second choice, I'll go down in value, if you like.

So my second most expensive car fits very much into the criteria of lovely things.

I'm also at Williams Crawford on this one.

And I'm spending ninety five thousand pounds on the most beautiful 1970 911 2.2

E in burgundy red.

And I've I've looked at this car, you know, quite a few times since it's since it's

Crawford and something which is interesting is that it was an Italian

delivered car and it's never been a part.

It's an original car unrestored, but still in really, really beautiful condition.

And the burgundy red gorgeous.

It's just such a, you know, that that that era of 9-11,

you know, those early long wheelbase cars, if you like, you know, they're just so pretty,

so, so pretty.

And I just thought I could imagine that in my driveway next to that in the garage,

next to the speedster, you walk in and just feel so happy that you own that car

and then go cruising about in it.

You know, it's not a car to blatter about in, I don't think,

but a car to cruise about in, have a nice time, roll the windows down,

you know, the way that I tend to motor often, you know, around the place.

I just thought that's just great, isn't it?

You know what those exactly as you said, Max,

those long bonnet cars, it's just art, isn't it?

Art on wheels.

You could just look at them all day.

They're so kind of glorious.

And I actually think personally that of those long bonnet with the lineup,

as we well know, was formerly T, E and S with a year of 9-11 L in 68 for Lux.

But the E is probably, for a car that you'd like to use as often as possible,

is probably the sweet spot, really.

The T as the base car, the engine's always a bit kind of breathless, really.

You have to really work hard to kind of get anywhere in those.

And then the 9-11 S, and this is whether it's a two litre, a 2.2 or even a 2.4,

it's kind of, its modern equivalent is a GT3.

So if you really start pushing an S, it starts getting pretty gnarly pretty quickly.

Whereas an E is a really lovely mid-ground.

It's a nice, usable, torquey motor, whether 2, 2.2 or 2.4, relative to its sisters.

It's just a lovely place to be.

Yeah, good, usable on the road.

That's a lovely choice, a really lovely choice.

Beautiful car, beautiful car.

So in terms of a criteria, if I were going to have one,

you know, I've already mentioned the open top and the modern GT bit.

You know, this ticks an air-cooled box, which I think is important.

But mainly it's just beautiful.

It's just, you know, it's just a lovely, lovely thing that I think I would love to own.

Probably wouldn't use it as much as the Speedster, I don't know.

But I'd be in it, you know, I'd be pottering about in it often on nice days

and with Mandy having a lovely time.

Lovely. OK, so quick maths with your two cars.

How much have you spent so far?

So what have I done?

Two, three, six, five.

Three, six, five, is it?

Kicking on.

Love it. Yeah. Andy B, what are you into?

I am 135 plus 77.

So 210, I am 210-ish, 212.

210, so you've got the most healthy bank balance remaining so far.

I'm at 270 for the two cars, so.

Good work, good work.

Not bad, not bad.

I did look at that, I did look at that car because it's my birth year

and I hadn't read the story fully.

That, where it's not been a part, oh.

Yeah, it's a great story.

Oh, if I'd read that, I think that would have been on my list,

but I had to itch another itch, so.

But yeah, that's a lovely car.

Yeah, I'm jealous of your choice there.

Yeah, yeah, I'm feeling really happy with myself, I've got to say.

Smug, you might say.

Hmm, deservedly so.

Strong choice, strong choice.

All right then, car number three, I'll dive in if you don't mind.

Go on for it.

So I've had a track car, an open top car.

I want an air-cooled and a modern.

I'll go with the air-cooled.

Ideally, a 993 4S I think is possibly peak luft for me.

Love how it looks.

Or a 930, of course, and there are a couple of 930s on the marketplace,

but none that are really, truly ticking all the boxes for me currently.

So I'm swayed by the buying experience,

the quality of the car and the fact I've driven this one before.

So I'm going to Paragon with their 1972 911e Targa.

What a pretty car that is.

Lovely, lovely.

That colour.

Yeah, it's not a 72, it's a 70, sorry, with the chrome brightwork, apologies.

But that car is absolutely stunning.

I had the privilege of driving that a couple of years ago,

put it up against the Heritage Design Edition 992 Targa.

And this car used to be owned by Mark Sumter,

proprietor at Paragon.

Then it's gone off, somebody else has enjoyed it for a bit and it's come back.

And again, this is what I love about the marketplace

and about Paragon in particular,

is that is a car that is 55 years old, over half a century,

and you can buy that car and it comes with 12 months warranty.

It's a year's free driving in such a beautiful car.

That is on the button.

And, you know, we've all driven, particularly you Andy,

you know, like driven a lot of like older Porsches.

They all have their quibbles because they've been on planet Earth for so long

and they have different lives and whatever.

So there's always bits and pieces,

but like if you're buying a car from that business,

it just won't be there.

It will work exactly as it should do in 1970.

It's a beautiful crisp car.

It's in Porsche green metallic.

It is left-hand drive, which doesn't bother me one little bit.

The 915 gearbox is absolutely beautiful, 15-inch Fuchs.

It's got the Pepita houndstooth inserts on the leatherette seats.

And it's had a little bit, just a little bit of gentle breathing

on the 2.2 litre car.

So it's rocking about 200 horsepower.

In terms of like power to contact patch on the road and everything else,

I think that's lovely.

And as you pointed out with your choice, Max,

you're not going to be hammering along on the road anyway.

So the idea of having a Targa, I think works wonderfully.

Just a car to bimble, bimble down to Mark Bennett's to get your,

yeah, your cross on in the morning.

That's the car for me.

Yeah, that's really, really lovely.

I looked at that in a slightly different scenario

that would have knocked out the speedster.

I had that car.

You know, it's really, really beautiful car.

Love it.

I think that's a great choice.

And imagine you in that and me in my burgundy red 70 be cruising along.

That's a great pairing.

We'll be stopping to take a lot of pictures of those two.

I'm very jealous of you two.

I really am.

Because why didn't I pick either of those or both?

I don't know.

My goodness.

It's a very good question, Andy.

Why didn't you?

What what did you go for instead, Ben?

What's your mistake?

My my mistake is that perennial turbo itch,

the 930 turbo itch.

That's that's the car that is,

yeah, got in the way of those two 1970 cars.

I just can't take my eyes off a turbo 930s.

So this is three on the market at the moment.

There's that white one from Williams Crawford

coupe. There's a blue one at Phil Raby,

which is a car that you've driven before, Lee.

Yes. Prussian blue modified.

Yeah, pretty.

Outrageous, that thing, from what I remember you saying.

And then there's also another one at Phil Raby where he's got that.

Oh, that's the the cabriolet, isn't it?

Yeah. Is it's not Kassis, is it?

I thought it was Kassis.

Oh, maybe it is. Yeah, Kassis. Yeah, Kassis.

Yeah. I was thinking Kassis was a bit of an older color, but it's not, isn't it?

So I think I'm going to choose I'm going to be quite.

At the time, I'm going to go white.

Yeah. I'm going to be 1980s white.

That that Williams Crawford car with the cool Williams Crawford.

Yeah. Yeah. Slightly bigger wheels.

They probably wouldn't hang around.

But yeah, I think that's had a bit of breathing on it as well.

That's got a few mods.

So, you know, it's a bit of bit of money spent on the engine.

So that'd be fun.

But yeah, those that's the the reason for not going for a birth year 1970s car

that both of you have picked.

And I'd be feeling a little if we if, you know, if we did one of those

top gear things where you all had to turn up

and you two turned up in those long hoods and I turned up in that turbo,

I think I'd feel a little bit.

Oh, got that wrong, didn't I?

Really? Yeah. Yeah.

It might be a bit jealous.

Yeah, because they're both amazing cars in in individual ways, aren't they?

The green one is perfect in the way it's been re

furbed and reconditioned and rebuilt.

It looks absolutely amazing.

And the original 1970 car that you picked, Max, is just gorgeous in its originality.

So, yeah, but then I'd be rolling off into the.

Yeah, so the into the distance with a

cackling to myself with the turbo spooling up.

Well, that's true. That's true.

Once we set off, we wouldn't see which direction you went.

No. Yeah.

Or speed. Yeah.

Yeah. Ninety seven. So it's a four speed.

Yeah. Yeah.

OK, very cool. Very cool.

Yeah. I mean, I was looking at that.

I'm not a fan of the wheels.

I would know. Same as you, Andy.

I'd swap them out. And I have a thing.

I think a G body should absolutely have flag mirrors.

Yeah. I'll change those back to flags. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

But it's a minor thing, right?

It's a complete minor detail.

And I know for a fact the guys at Williams-Cawford would do that for you.

Yeah. If you wanted it. Yeah, absolutely.

But yeah, it's got, did I say it's packing a huge turbocharger?

Yeah. And the intercooler underneath.

Wow. Oh, and it's actually it's got a G50 five speed gearbox upgrade.

Oh, oh, blimey.

Well, that takes some doing, which I think is a good thing.

Mated to the increase in power.

Yeah. Personally.

Yeah. Yeah. Interesting.

Yeah. OK. OK.

That's my decision.

Not sure I've made the right one, but there we go.

Yeah. Well, is that me?

Max, have you done yours?

Your car? I've got my third car to go.

Go for it. Go on. What you got?

So my third car is ticking, ticking another important criteria,

which I had in my mind, which is a Metzger GT engine car.

So that was that was quite important.

You know, alongside the modern DFI GT motor, you know, another experience

that I wanted to make sure was in there was a Metzger GT.

So it's typically if if it were an option, of course,

I'd have bought a 997 GT3.

But what I've actually bought is a car which is really appealing.

It's it's all I feel like it's almost a famous car in nine works circles.

I've I've I've gone to Harbour Cars

and I've bought the Tractive equipped 996.2 GT3 in midnight blue metallic.

Have you? And I've chosen that

not really because of budget, because there's not a huge amount in it,

because there's there's another really nice 996 GT3,

which I already mentioned, of course, on RPM, the silver one.

Yeah, but the Tractive element, you know, in terms of usability

and I think enjoyment on the road, which is what I am, really.

I'm a roadie at heart.

I think that that was really appealing for me with that car,

you know, especially given the experience that you've had of Italy.

So so for you know, for many reasons,

that's the car for me, a car that I think I would really, really enjoy driving.

And and it's a 996 as well.

So, you know, shut up, everyone.

Max has bought a 996.

Shut your mouth, Ben Bailey.

The ultimate mic drop. Yeah.

Maybe this isn't the real Max Niemann after all.

Maybe this is A.I.

You've been rumbled, you've been rumbled, Silicon Valley.

We've got you. We want our Max back.

So there you go.

Wow. Really cool car, as you will testify, Lee.

Really cool car.

So the the video will be out by the time this podcast goes out.

I love that car so much.

Driving it for for YouTube installment.

And I got in and I just put that Tractive set up on the full light soft

because we know what that car is capable of from stock.

And it's an uncompromising performance weapon.

And I also know how good the Tractive stuff is on track.

So it's that's that that putting it soft.

That's where it will win.

And I was absolutely blown away by that car.

I have to say, you rightly also highlight that exquisite

996.2 GT3 at RPM Technic as well, Max,

which has a lot of similarities between those two cars,

you know, both with these equipment cage elephant buckets as well.

What I love about the RPM car is it's got the extended leather.

Yeah. Yeah. Really, really good.

And for whatever reason, because I don't like silver cars.

I really like that 996.2 GT3 RPM.

It's a real beauty.

So, yeah. What do you think of the color at the Harbour Cars?

The Harbour Cars color, Max?

Yeah, I love it. Yeah, I love it.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, as you say, it's a tough call between the two cars.

You know, I love extended leather.

You know, I'm not a plastic dash guy,

but it's that attractive setup.

You know, I just thought in terms of, you know, because I like to use cars,

you know, and I just thought that makes that car just so.

It makes it much better for my use case.

Yeah. So that's what tipped it.

Plus, it saved me a few quid in this game as well, which is always helpful.

So, yeah. So that's about both both beautiful cars.

You know, you can't lose, you know, I think on either of those cars.

But for me, it's the Harbour Cars car that does it.

Excellent choice, Max.

Excellent exquisite choice, mate, without a doubt.

Yeah. Very nice.

Cool. Moving on.

So that takes me to four hundred and forty grand.

So you've got 60 quid left in 60k in the pot.

60k in the kitty.

And one car to go.

And one to go. Andy, you've got two cars to go.

And how much you got left in the bank?

So I've still got one hundred and ninety in the bank.

That's amazing.

You're so good. So good for saving.

Yeah. OK, well, I've got 80k left with one car to go.

So. Yeah, I kind of chop and change, really.

You're still making a decision at this last moment.

Well, I mean, as Max pointed out at the beginning,

there's so much choice in that 80k range, isn't there?

Yeah. So I can see your quandary.

Yeah, I, I, I like that as well.

Yeah. So I thought I was nailed on.

This is always what's so wonderful about these conversations.

I was going to go for because I said at the top I had 15k left.

So I was going to go to Lakeside Classics and I was going to pick up

their car, my red nine and one point one GTS.

I was just right up there for like peak modern non GT nine eleven.

I like the fact it's PDK just jumping easy.

Great soundtrack, as we know.

I forgot about the anniversary.

I didn't get far enough down Lakeside showroom listing to see it.

I was already swayed by the bright red flare of the car mine car.

The anniversary is just a special man.

I thought you'd be assuring on that.

Yeah, I, I, I was overawed by the by the car mine GTS.

But then I thought I could swap into that.

So that's not a bad idea.

And then just thinking about my choices

and wanting to kind of, yeah, tick everything off.

I think I'd probably end up actually similar to you, Max, if it's OK.

Well, now, if you've chosen it, I'll know you can have it.

You can have it. You can have it.

Go on. I'll be different. It's fine.

I'll be different. I'll be different.

Yeah, I'll I'll I'll go with that Lakeside anniversary

because I just think to climb into that is just such a wonderful place to be.

It's done a few more miles as well.

So again, they'd be just guilt free, jump in, use it

exactly as previous custodians have.

It's black. It's quite understated, isn't it?

Power kit car. Yeah, it is.

Yeah, it is. Not many of those is what I say.

Yeah. And this is it.

You know, if you really dive into those 50th anniversary cars in the UK,

there's very few of them, I think, that have got a really, really good spec.

There's one that's the perfect, which is the manual power kit.

Yeah. But in terms of everything else, as you point out, power kit

sport seats is is is pretty much there, isn't it?

To be honest. So I will go.

Yeah. Anniversary.

So that's that's that's that's me.

Spent out with nine nine nine nine two GT3 RS

nine eight seven RS 60 Spyder nine on one anniversary.

And then that lovely 1970 Targa.

Very good. Very good.

Andy. Well, now you've got two cars.

They save you for last.

OK, Max, how are you spending your final per se?

So my last car, I mean, and this is the

this is the big compromise of my

of my lineup is that I can't afford the 50th anniversary.

Nine on one at Lakeside.

I really, you know, I would really like that car.

You know how much on the table?

Well, I've got I've got 60 grand and it's 80 grand.

So so, you know, I'm a fair way short.

But it's a compromise that I had to make to make the other things work.

So I just, you know, but but actually the flip side is

the compromise is actually I've still got a really, really cool car.

And again, although it is I think it's actually reserved now, but,

you know, potentially a car that I would actually buy, you know, things

timing being a little bit different.

Maybe I would have been the buyer of this car.

I'm not. It's some other lucky bugger.

But so the car that I'm buying and actually the criteria

is a little bit of a funny one, not necessarily what you'd expect,

given that I've got the McCann that I already own in real life here

as part of this scenario.

But this is and this is sort of like a road trip car almost.

And and it comes from, you know, there's quite a lot of,

you know, thoughts and conversations and ideas that have developed

from the Norway trip.

I did the Norway trip in the McCann and it was brilliant.

You know, other than when I was chasing you and Saki down the pass

and it was it was getting a bit it was getting a bit heavy at home at that time.

But and despite the fact it was brilliant for the trip,

there were times when I was looking at the convoy of 9-11's, 9-1's, 9-2's

and I was slightly envious that I wasn't in a 9-11 at that point,

despite the fact I was in a great car.

You know, you know, it's an embarrassment of riches, isn't it?

You know, I'm not saying I had the thin end of the wedge or the end of the stick,

but I still couldn't help but be slightly envious.

And it made me think a lot about my brown 9-1-1 that I used to own,

that I never took into Europe, you know, because I owned it during lockdown.

It just didn't quite work out.

So I've had this thought that I want to sort of road trip car.

And I thought the 9-1-1 speedster doesn't really do that

because I'd have to have it with the top up on some of those big runs.

I think otherwise I get a headache and my hair would go all over the place.

So I thought that's probably not a Norway car for me.

And that's where the 50th anniversary comes in.

Would be perfect, but I can't afford it.

So actually, I've gone back to Harbour Cars.

I'm staying at Harbour Cars.

Actually, I haven't left yet from buying the 906 GT3

and I'm buying the 9-1-1.1 C2S in Basalt Black

with PDCC Sport Plus seats, including ventilation.

It's got a sunroof, not a pano.

It's the, you know, the

metal sunroof, if you like.

But, you know, I've owned a 9-1-1 C2S before.

I know how good they are.

And it would be that, you know, I could use it to go back to Norway.

I could use it to go to Northumberland, to Wales.

I could blatter about locally and having a great time.

They're just great cars.

Really, really great cars.

And I thought, actually, if I can't get the 50th anniversary,

I'm not doing bad getting into that car because it's bloody brilliant.

Spec. All sorts. Is it Burmester in there?

I think it is Burmester.

You know, it's a super, super spec.

Yeah, it's got a lot of spec.

Yeah. So I suppose I suppose.

Yeah, it's a it's a heavyweight spec.

I don't have it the other day.

It's it's yeah, mega, mega, heavy, heavy spec.

The I mean, the the numerically minded will notice straight away.

I'm thinking probably of you, Mark Anderson.

You're probably on it actually takes hands over budget.

Takes me to five hundred and two grand.

But I thought, although he hasn't done, I thought, well,

Andy's bound to go over budget because he always does. Yeah.

But he's proved me wrong on this occasion.

But I also thought, come on, it's only two grand.

You know, I'm buying two cars from her because there's we can get

we can find two grand in that deal somewhere. Surely.

Come on, guys. Come on, come on, come on.

You know, get us under. Get us under.

Yeah. Help me out. Help a brother out.

Help a brother out. Come on.

So, yeah. So there we go.

There we go. That's me.

It's a choice.

It's a it's a very you car, Max, I have to say.

And possibly hints that, yeah, as you've alluded to,

there's some unfinished business for nine on one. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Maybe, maybe, maybe. Yeah.

So, yeah. And, you know, just thinking how that sits with the other cars,

you know, the speedster, the 70, the GT three,

the real McCann that actually exists, how that just sits in there

in terms of use case, you know, there's there's a lot

that I can do where that car is just just just the ticket.

Yeah, I think it's it's really nicely.

It could even live on the driveway whilst the other three special cars,

if you like, are in a nice three car garage lineup.

You know, so far in there as well.

And, you know, you know, the kind of thing you see where I'm going.

You can't afford a sofa, mate. You're two grand over.

I'll pick one of those fly tipped ones up from the side of the street.

Yeah. Right. Yeah.

Well, well done for not sticking to the brief anyway.

It's two grand. Come on.

No, it's great stuff. It's great stuff.

All right, then, Andy, let's let's say, yes, let's see what you got.

You got two cars to go, two cars to go.

OK, this the first one I've been pushed into a bit of a corner here,

but a corner I'm quite liking.

And I wanted something mid engine

because I've not experienced mid engine life.

I was hoping that we might have a little spider of some sort.

Probably a nine eight one would have been my choice

if one of those would have been available.

I kind of feel that that hits my spot on the spider spectrum.

Right. I think I like the look of them and I like the engine that's in those

little bit. I think the nine eight seven is probably just a bit too.

Old, that's that sounds a bit weird, doesn't it?

Says Mr. Cool. Yes, it's Mr.

Good, but that that nine eight one spider would have hit the right thing for mid

engine. If if that wasn't available and there would have been a Cayman R,

which is nine eight seven, that would have hit a spot as well.

But the only thing that really appealed for me for mid engine stuff was something.

Very different, really.

It's a nineteen seventy four nine fourteen slash six

GT Tribute Crawford.

I knew you'd go for that car.

Yeah, I knew it. I could see you rocking up with that.

That looks so cool.

And it got yellow lights up your street.

That is sort of ST inspired wheel choice.

That color. Well, Mrs.

B would absolutely love that thing because she loves a nine one four.

She loves orange.

It takes so many boxes in my.

Yeah. In my. What would go well down at home?

Yeah, there we go.

That is pretty good, to be fair to like, yeah, to consider

consider your better half in that.

That is, I think, for all of us, possibly a first on Nomex radio.

We're diving into the marketplace anyway.

So that's good.

That's yeah.

Ticks a lot of boxes.

So, yeah. Yeah.

But if not, also, it means you've got something to bring to our 1970 club.

But otherwise you'll be able to come.

It does. So that's relief. Yeah.

Yeah. So I sort of, yeah, pushed into a corner, but I'm quite relieved

that I've been pushed into that corner because I think that's a bloody cool car.

It would be any

spider and came in for me in the end.

So, yeah, quite pleased to be pushed that way.

Great choice, sir. Great choice.

Yeah, good. Have you got one more?

I have. I've got I've got one hundred and three thousand pounds left.

If I do my if I do my calculations well, which is quite a

good amount of money, isn't it?

And I was but then I was going to

sort of blow that budget by two K.

And I see that Lakeside have put up one of their

nine six four based.

I rock. Oh, yes.

But there's no pictures of it, so I don't know where you know

what the detail is on it, it's a little bit

sketchy, what it is, it says it's a Carrera four.

So I'm kind of backing out of this, to be honest.

And I that was my choice that I'd written down.

But after you both gone for those 1970s cars,

I'm going to backtrack and I'm going to I'm going to nick that

burgundy car off of you, Max.

Oh, yeah, that's definitely a you can share it with you.

It's definitely a new car.

It's lovely, isn't it? Just.

And then I've got I've got some more money back in the bank

because how much was that?

Ninety five. Oh, there you go.

I've got ten grand spare.

I think you've done well.

And if you plan Z, it then brings Max back in.

Yeah, yeah, that's true.

And you can get the anniversary.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Chopping the black one, get the anniversary.

There we go.

Yeah, baby.

Everyone's winning.

It's done. It's done well.

Andy B to extract five cars from the market.

There's not a lot of coolant that you'd need in your garage.

There's not. It's just the McCann.

That is it. Yeah, yeah.

I love that. I love that.

So for all of the days, for like the 310 days

when all those airco cars aren't working, you can use them again.

And I'll be happy as pig in shit.

Yeah, I know you will.

That's so good.

Boys, that's amazing.

I think it shows, as we always say, you know, there's more than one ways

to skin a cat, loads of ways to crack the code.

And we've all kind of come at that task

with our own personality and outlook and just highlights the variety

on that nine months marketplace, which obviously you listening at home

can dive into for yourself.

And I'm like, OK, dot UK forward slash Porsche marketplace.

If you're in the Driven Not Hidden collective, let us know in marketplace

conversations on that that WhatsApp group,

how you would pick your half a million.

And I think that's it.

Jen, so I personally I don't think we should do any other business

or admin for this very special episode.

I think like we celebrate the gift is

having Max back for one match.

You're always welcome, as as you very well know.

Thank you.

And it's been great chatting cars with you again, mate.

Yeah, I've had a great time. I've had a great time.

I'm going to have to go and lay down because Andy's maths have really confused me.

I've no idea how much he spent.

I think he's got five cars, but I'm not sure

it's either done really well.

Yeah, it's calculated. It's broken.

Yeah, I think he's actually got a dozen cars and he spent a mil.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, 100 percent.

Well, thanks to everybody at home for listening to this episode and others.

Before we go quickly, gents off the top of your

top of your head, favorite guest of those half a million.

Oh, oh, sprung that one on us.

I tell you what, last last week, Andy, when you were

when you guys were answering the questions and you're talking about

who you'd have as your co-driver up to the Arctic Circle and back.

I kind of knew that you're going to say Johnny Smith

because we had such a laugh with him.

And, you know, that that just spring to my gone midnight

talking about that bloody club off the A5 in Bedfordshire.

Everyone's swingers. Yeah.

I mean, that was yeah, we really had a good time.

He was a great guest. Really enjoyed it. Yeah.

Oh, what's yours, Blake?

Give me give me two, two more seconds.

Well, again, what I'm going to go other end of the scale.

And and it's Norbert Singer.

And we certainly weren't talking about swingers clubs off the A5.

You know, we were talking about Group C and wind tunnels and everything else.

And all's I say on that.

And it's kind of in a similar vein with a lot of other guests

you could tie this to is it's just so nice that that sort of guest

has given us at Nineworks Radio the time of day.

You know, we're not a massive publishing house.

We're powered by passion.

And it was just great and really awesome to hear his story.

I really encourage if you've not heard it, go back and have a listen

to Norbert Singer.

Yeah. And he was quite special, isn't he?

He's a special guy, Norbert Singer.

A real, you know, for me, Porsche legend status,

you know, you know, blue chip Porsche legend, as far as I'm concerned.

He's amazing. Yeah.

If you if you if you take, you know, if you erase Norbert Singer

from the Porsche tapestry, it's motorsport history.

And therefore the cars that end up on the road, that is a very different outlook.

Possibly one of the most important and pivotal, pivotal Porsche figures,

really, alongside Ferry Porsche, Buzzi, Hans Metzger.

I agree. I agree. Yeah.

And so, you know, exactly as you say, the fact that he was,

you know, he wanted to come on, he came on as a guest to to,

you know, to Nineworks Radio to chat to us.

That's credit.

That's credit to you guys and credit to Nineworks Radio and credit to Norbert.

Absolutely. Legend.

Absolutely. And Andy, what about you?

I've got two that come to my mind and they're kind of equal.

Henry Catchpole.

Great. Yeah. Oh, great guy.

Just such a Henry.

I love everything that he does, you know, all of this stuff

that he actually does.

And he was just so interesting to talk to.

So that's my modern one.

What about your air cooled?

Oh, my my old school one would be Alwin.

Oh, Alwin Springer. Yeah.

What a what a character and what a career. Yeah.

Man, that guy has done some stuff and he's taken a lot of people

along with him to do amazing things.

And that was so good that we actually had him back for a part two,

which is a DNHC only listen.

But boy, are both of those podcasts a good listen.

Top choice, Andy B. Top choice, everybody.

Look, that's it. We'll we'll wrap it up there.

It's always a pleasure, gents. It's never a chore.

Never a chore. Fully agreed.

Fully agree. From everyone, us three to all of you

listening at home on Nineworks Radio.

Have a great day. See you next week.

Thank you for five thousand.

OK, five hundred thousand even.

Yeah. What am I talking about?

There's this cut. There's the maths.

There's the maths. I told you.

Yeah. Don't you, Cassie?

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