The conversation dives into the evolving landscape of social media platforms for auto detailing marketing, highlighting Facebook's dominance in industry discussions and its reputation for heated debates and strong opinions. The hosts contrast Facebook's interactive, often chaotic environment with platforms like TikTok and YouTube, which have matured into valuable content hubs. They also touch on community dynamics within Facebook groups, the challenges of providing meaningful advice amid noise, and share anecdotes about branding on vehicles and upcoming detailing products. The episode blends marketing insights with detailing culture and social media trends.
In this episode, hosts Marshall and Nick explore the wild side of social media platforms, the importance of managing expectations in detailing, and the strategic value of distribution and marketing for detailers.
They share insights on platform behaviors, customer communication, and growing a successful business in 2026.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Social Media Trends
01:47 Facebook's Dominance and Platform Behaviors
04:22 The Toxicity and Visibility of Facebook
08:43 Facebook Groups and Community Insights
11:04 Custom Logo Removal and Vehicle Customization
13:09 Sticky Porsche Buttons and Interior Repairs
16:12 Part Failures and Manufacturer Coatings
19:00 Distribution and Building Long-Term Revenue
22:20 Starting a Distribution Business in 2026
27:38 Customer Expectations and Paint Correction
30:47 Managing Expectations with Light and Dark Lights
34:24 Paint Correction and Test Spots
37:00 Simplifying Coating Choices for Customers
40:42 Handling Interior Damage and High Spots
42:09 Interior Ceramic Coatings and Repair
45:23 Piano Black Trim and Cosmetic Repairs
47:08 New Detailing Business Tips and Community Engagement
55:30 The Value of Yard Signs and Local Marketing
01:02:25 Online Marketing vs Yard Signs in 2026
01:04:08 Final Tips and Contact for Distribution Opportunities
"...e of you that can remember, I mean, we're talking six plus years ago, it was a theory that you go leave com..."
The Morgan Plus Six is a small, sporty car made by hand that looks like old-fashioned cars but uses new parts to go fast and be comfortable. It’s special because it mixes old style with new technology. People like to talk about it because it’s different from most cars you see.
The Morgan Plus Six is a modern British sports car that combines classic design cues with contemporary engineering, featuring a lightweight aluminum chassis and a turbocharged engine. It represents Morgan's commitment to handcrafted quality while offering enhanced performance and comfort. Its blend of tradition and innovation makes it a standout in niche sports car discussions.
"That's the hyper clean specialist group. And, you know, I'm curious, how many people have brought into the Brian Mildren approach to this? Because not a lot of work's being done."
It's a way some people take care of their cars that focuses on doing less work and keeping things original and clean.
The Brian Mildren approach refers to a specific method or philosophy in car detailing or maintenance popularized by Brian Mildren, known for emphasizing minimal intervention and preserving originality.
"Yeah, you know, since I've been doing cars, we just did a URUS where we did a full nameplate, you know, signatures on the door sill on the the kick plates and all that kind of stuff."
The Lamborghini Urus is a fast and fancy SUV made by Lamborghini. It looks cool and can go very fast like a sports car but also carries people and stuff like a regular SUV.
The Lamborghini Urus is a high-performance luxury SUV produced by Lamborghini, combining supercar performance with SUV practicality. It features a powerful twin-turbo V8 engine and distinctive Italian styling.
"It's like when you see a six by six, like G-wagon, stuff like that. I mean, that stuff's always cool to see."
The G-Wagon 6x6 is a big, fancy SUV with six wheels instead of four. It can drive over really rough ground and looks very unique because of its extra wheels.
The Mercedes-Benz G-Wagon 6x6 is a six-wheeled luxury off-road vehicle based on the G-Class SUV. It features an extended chassis with three axles and six driven wheels, offering exceptional off-road capability and a distinctive appearance.
"the jeeps that we see a little too much. It's like when you see a six by six, like G-wagon, stuff like that. I mean, that stuff's always cool to see."
The G-Class is a fancy and tough SUV that can drive on rough roads but also feels very comfortable inside. It’s popular because it looks cool and can handle many types of driving. Some versions have extra wheels, which makes them even more special.
The Mercedes-Benz G-Class, often called the G-Wagon, is a luxury off-road SUV known for its rugged design and high-end features. It has a strong following due to its combination of serious off-road capability and upscale comfort. Variants like the six-by-six add to its exclusivity and appeal among enthusiasts.
"...ings. You know, what is the difference between a semi truck? What's the difference between a pontoon?"
The Tesla Semi is a big electric truck used to carry heavy loads over long distances without using gas. It helps save money and is better for the environment because it doesn’t pollute like regular trucks. People talk about it because it’s changing how big trucks work.
The Tesla Semi is an all-electric Class 8 semi-truck designed to revolutionize freight transport with zero emissions and lower operating costs. It features advanced autopilot capabilities and promises significant savings on fuel and maintenance compared to traditional diesel trucks. Its introduction marks a major step toward sustainable long-haul trucking.
"You know, what is the difference between a semi truck? What's the difference between a pontoon?"
A pontoon is like a big tube that helps things float on water, often used in boats. Sometimes, it also means a type of vehicle or trailer shape.
A pontoon refers to a type of flotation device or boat structure that uses hollow tubes to provide buoyancy. In automotive or transport contexts, it can also refer to pontoon-style bodywork on vehicles or trailers.
"Well, that Porsche had some buttons that were sticky. So this was Danny says, oh, sticky Porsche buttons."
Sticky buttons are buttons in a car that get stuck or don't press down easily, which can happen when the car is old or dirty.
Sticky buttons refer to buttons on a car's dashboard or controls that do not respond properly or feel sluggish, often due to wear, dirt, or aging of the materials.
"It's a 2014 Cayman. Yeah, I mean, sticky buttons."
The Porsche Cayman is a sporty car made by Porsche. The 2014 version is a popular model known for being fun to drive and having good balance because the engine is in the middle of the car.
The Porsche Cayman is a mid-engine sports car produced by Porsche, known for its balanced handling and performance. The 2014 model belongs to the first generation 981, which improved on the previous 987 generation with updated styling and mechanical upgrades.
"It's a Ferrari issue. There are certain Porsches that have gone through a certain European cars. I mean, everything has kind of gone through it at some point. The coding is, you know, to make it simple terms, it's melting. That's essentially what happened in Ferraris."
Ferrari is a famous car company from Italy that makes very fast and fancy cars. Sometimes, their cars can have problems with parts like buttons or electronics.
Ferrari is an Italian luxury sports car manufacturer known for high-performance vehicles and racing heritage. The brand is often associated with advanced engineering but sometimes faces issues like electronic component failures.
""It's a rubberized coating, basically. From the manufacturer. Yeah, it's not somebody's something put on there.""
A rubberized coating is like a tough, rubbery paint that protects parts of a car from getting scratched or rusty. It helps keep the car in good shape for longer.
A rubberized coating is a protective layer applied to parts of a vehicle to prevent damage from impacts, corrosion, or wear. It is often used on underbodies or specific components to extend their lifespan.
""Yeah, it's got an issue. What's that issue, Nick? Yeah, you got to go listen to clutch culture.""
Clutch culture means people who like driving cars with a stick shift, where you have to use a pedal called the clutch to change gears. It's about enjoying driving and being more involved with the car.
Clutch culture refers to the appreciation and enthusiasm for manual transmission cars, where drivers use a clutch pedal to change gears. It often implies a community or mindset that values driver engagement and skill.
"But if people have full self driving, they just come to like a three second stop, right, a place that doesn't call for it."
Full Self Driving means the car can do a lot of the driving by itself, like staying in lanes and stopping at traffic lights, so the driver doesn't have to do everything all the time.
Full Self Driving (FSD) is an advanced driver-assistance system developed by Tesla that aims to enable a car to drive itself with minimal human intervention. It includes features like automatic lane changes, traffic-aware cruise control, and the ability to navigate on highways and city streets.
""Yeah, I think most people should be going to a product like Bilo. I mean, that would be the first, you know, it's a one step. It's going to fit most people's budget. You're going to get most of the stuff out.""
Bilo is a company that makes products to help clean and fix scratches on your car's paint so it looks better.
Bilo is a brand that offers automotive detailing products, including compounds and polishes used to remove scratches and imperfections from car paint surfaces.
""I mean, that would be the first, you know, it's a one step. It's going to fit most people's budget. You're going to get most of the stuff out.""
A 'one step' product is something you use once to clean and fix scratches on your car's paint, so it looks shiny and smooth without needing multiple products.
A 'one step' product in car detailing refers to a compound or polish that combines cutting and finishing actions, allowing users to remove scratches and restore shine in a single application.
""...what did we used to do with the rotary? I just don't even want to go far that back.""
A rotary engine is a special kind of engine that spins in a circle instead of using pistons going up and down. It makes the car run smoothly and can go very fast. Mazda is the most famous company to use this engine.
The rotary engine, also known as the Wankel engine, is a type of internal combustion engine that uses a rotary design to convert pressure into rotating motion instead of the traditional piston design. It is known for its smoothness, high-revving nature, and compact size, famously used in Mazda RX series cars.
""...how many people would pay for a two step in 2020 compared to paying for a two step in 2026?""
A two step is a feature in some cars that helps keep the engine speed steady when you start driving fast, making it easier to get a good start in races.
A two step is a type of rev limiter used primarily in performance and racing applications that holds the engine RPM at a set level when the clutch is engaged, allowing for better launches and control during drag racing or spirited driving.
""I saw somebody, I want to bring this up because I know guys love paint correction top. Walk me through this idea that you're going to do two or three test spots for a customer before they choose what they're going to go with.","
Paint correction means fixing scratches and marks on a car's paint to make it look shiny and new again. It uses special tools and polishes to clean up the surface.
Paint correction is the process of removing surface imperfections such as swirl marks, scratches, and oxidation from a car's paint to restore its original gloss and clarity. It often involves polishing and compounding techniques to achieve a smooth, defect-free finish.
"I'd rather have the enhancement. So you got just a square on the car that's perfect, and then the rest of its paint enhancement. How is that? How is that a system?"
Paint enhancement is a way to make a car's paint look nicer by cleaning up small scratches and marks without doing a full, detailed fix. It helps the car look shinier and cleaner.
Paint enhancement is a process that improves the appearance of a car's paint by removing minor imperfections such as swirl marks and light scratches, often using polishing compounds and tools. It is less intensive than a full paint correction, which involves multiple steps to restore the paint to a near-perfect condition.
"...derstand. I don't want somebody that's trying to flex how they do things. That's just not what I'm int..."
The Ford Flex is a big car that looks kind of square and can carry lots of people and stuff inside. It’s good for families because it’s roomy and comfortable. People talk about it because it’s different from other cars and works well for everyday use.
The Ford Flex is a midsize crossover SUV known for its boxy design, spacious interior, and family-friendly features. It offers three rows of seating and a comfortable ride, making it popular among buyers needing versatile passenger and cargo space. Its unique styling and practicality often make it a topic of discussion.
""But they don't like rip off the differential and go, hey, here's your differential oil. You want it replaced?""
Differential oil is a special kind of oil that helps parts inside your car's differential move smoothly without wearing out. It keeps the car running well when turning corners.
Differential oil is the lubricant used inside a vehicle's differential to reduce friction and wear between the gears. It helps ensure smooth operation and longevity of the differential components.
"He had recently used this other company's leather ceramic coating on the interior."
Leather ceramic coating is like a special protective layer put on leather seats or parts inside a car to keep them clean and stop them from getting damaged.
Leather ceramic coating is a protective treatment applied to leather surfaces in cars to protect against stains, wear, and UV damage, enhancing durability and ease of cleaning.
""That's called a coating high spot. And I don't envy this guy because you're you're now buying a small polisher to try to polish this off.""
Sometimes when a protective layer is put on a car, it can have little bumps or raised spots called high spots. These make the car's surface look uneven.
A coating high spot refers to an uneven area or raised imperfection in a protective coating applied to a car's surface, often noticeable as a blemish or distortion in the finish.
"Don't don't go immediately. But this is probably going to have to be compounded."
Compounding is a way to clean up scratches and marks on a car's paint by rubbing it with a special paste. It helps make the car look smooth again.
Compounding is a polishing process using an abrasive compound to remove surface imperfections like scratches, oxidation, or swirl marks from a car's paint or trim. It is more aggressive than regular polishing and should be used carefully to avoid damaging the surface.
"... to look and go, okay, four star quality detail, 918, dot, dot, dot. What do you mean worth it? What's..."
The Porsche 918 Spyder is a very fast and fancy car that uses both a gas engine and electric power to go really quickly. It's special because it mixes new technology with sporty design, making it exciting for car fans. People talk about it because it’s a cool example of how cars can be both powerful and smart.
The Porsche 918 Spyder is a high-performance hybrid supercar known for its advanced technology and exceptional driving dynamics. It combines a powerful V8 engine with electric motors to deliver impressive speed and efficiency, making it a significant model in the evolution of hybrid sports cars. It's often discussed for its blend of luxury, innovation, and track-ready performance.
"By the way, I'll say this though, you and I have talked about vehicle wraps, right? We've talked about these types of things before. You've literally watched up close and personal, somebody spend $10,000 on vehicle wraps."
A vehicle wrap is like a big sticker that covers your car to change how it looks. People use it to make their car look cool or protect the paint underneath.
Vehicle wraps are large vinyl decals or graphics applied over a car's paint to change its appearance. They can be used for advertising, protection, or customization and typically cost several thousand dollars depending on coverage and quality.
Introduction and Social Media Trends
Facebook's Dominance and Platform Behaviors
The Toxicity and Visibility of Facebook
Facebook Groups and Community Insights
Custom Logo Removal and Vehicle Customization
Sticky Porsche Buttons and Interior Repairs
Part Failures and Manufacturer Coatings
Distribution and Building Long-Term Revenue
Starting a Distribution Business in 2026
Customer Expectations and Paint Correction
Managing Expectations with Light and Dark Lights
Paint Correction and Test Spots
Simplifying Coating Choices for Customers
Handling Interior Damage and High Spots
Interior Ceramic Coatings and Repair
Piano Black Trim and Cosmetic Repairs
New Detailing Business Tips and Community Engagement
The Value of Yard Signs and Local Marketing
Online Marketing vs Yard Signs in 2026
Final Tips and Contact for Distribution Opportunities
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Welcome to the Pints and Polishing podcast, the most influential and listened to podcast
in auto detailing.
Welcome to the community.
All right, welcome back.
This is a wonderful episode we'd love to do.
This is around the internet, around the Facebook groups and different things that people send
us.
Nick and I really enjoy these episodes.
Well, as we get to look at what people are doing and voice our opinions, they're a lot
of fun.
They really are.
You know, we've been saying a lot of stuff recently, Nick, and so I want to start off
with this question.
If you took the different platforms that are out there and the different quote unquote
characters on the platforms, who and which platform do you think will have the most wild
things in 26 Facebook Facebook?
Oh yeah.
I mean, Facebook by a mile, by a mile, I mean, in our world, I'm assuming you're saying in
our world.
Yeah, I mean, it seems the detailing world as a whole has adopted and kept Facebook longer
than most of the world.
It's why we, you know, pretty regularly say, get into the specialist group, ask questions,
make it valuable time because we know people are still in our industry on Facebook, exponentially
more than a lot of industries.
I mean, for whatever reason, it has just sheer number of people talking and it's more of
a question and answer platform, you know, where a TikTok, Instagram and those types
of places is just people putting out their own content, you know, and not really a ton
of interaction, maybe a few comments, things like that.
But, you know, YouTube, that stuff is more, you're coming here to watch my content, Facebook
seems to be the more opinionated place to me.
So, you know, it used to be, because you mentioned right like the journey, it used to be YouTube.
People would put out stuff on YouTube and the, I guess the audience or the, the those
of us who would love to, you know, cast our opinions on what they would put out, we would
mostly go after them because it was YouTube and it was kind of early and they would put
out their, here's how I would do it and we would, you know, well, you know, we would
dig at it.
I think people actually blow off YouTube now, don't you?
I don't know.
I find my, I'm opposite.
I found my weekend filled with YouTube.
No, no, I'm saying you're on YouTube.
I'm saying like crazy behavior, though.
That was your question.
You're right.
You're right.
You were on YouTube.
You're right.
Crazy behavior is gone.
You're right.
I don't see any.
I wonder if it's because the good quality just pushes forward.
The one I was going to bring up, which we'll talk about distribution here in a little bit,
but I was talking to a distributor last week and they were having massive success, you
know, in their words, having a lot of great success off a TikTok.
Sure.
Where we used to think TikTok was nothing but like people dancing around acting stupid.
Yeah, no.
It was really funny.
It's a different thing.
I had an interview recently with a guy and it was on the different episodes and we were
talking afterwards and I was like, listen, man, you remember that guy?
He was dancing with those people then after they sold their company on TikTok.
Like there was no way that he had success, right?
So there was this moment where we thought people thought they could put out things on
TikTok and it was like, yeah, we're awesome.
It's like, no, no, that platform has gone through an evolution.
I mean, there's no doubt about it.
I think it's turned more into like Instagram in a lot of ways where, you know, if you look
at our, you know, I'll just tell people about our social media.
We just put out stuff that pertains to us.
You know, a podcast forum is much different than, you know, what we put on Instagram or
TikTok or YouTube on, you know, on a video watching us work on something or clean some
glass or mess with some wheels and things like that.
I think the fascinating part of your question is I'm a little shocked at how crazy Facebook
can get.
I mean, there's some of the stuff we're sent and that is the platform where your name is
the most visible.
It's usually tied to a personal account or a business account where you can have an anonymous
Instagram, you can have an anonymous TikTok.
You can, it's like, people really put their name behind some pretty crazy stuff.
And even on the other platform, say like YouTube, even if people put out quote unquote
craziness, well, it's in a video form where they got other things going on and maybe they
don't hear everything on Facebook.
It's not about hearing because you read it is black and white buddy is right there.
You have to you have to say this.
For the last, like what, 18 months, probably two years, there are entire group chats on
our phone with insanity.
And I don't remember anything that isn't basically all Facebook related.
True, usually comes tied to that.
Yeah.
That's where we go.
Zuck, great job, man.
Zuck.
Yeah, like he's got people thinking it's just like no big deal.
Like, and we try to say for people doing this professionally, you know, everybody,
whether you believe it or not, somebody and then everybody sees what you're doing.
And I get asked this question a lot, especially about guys coming up in the
business or like, Hey, you don't do really a lot online except for hyper clean related
stuff.
And I go, if I thought I could provide value somewhere else, I think I would do it.
The problem is I've seen the toxicity and I just go, I can't provide value.
And, you know, we know people of all ages, 20, 40, 60 plus, whatever, that just have
no filter on Facebook.
And that's their prerogative.
It's their account, right?
Like you and I keep saying that.
He makes got some great ones.
But, but if I, but if I, if I would say right now, like what people that asked me, so I
could always point you to this episode, like, Hey, man, I go to the hyper clean
specialist group because I think I can provide value.
The rest of this stuff, I don't know with all the noise and all the craziness and all
the stuff, how do you, how do you provide value?
And I just don't think people ask that question enough.
Yeah.
I mean, the amount of times like when you and I used to talk, I was like, yeah, I
used to think because I bought into a theory.
And for those of you that can remember, I mean, we're talking six plus years ago,
it was a theory that you go leave comments in people's posts.
And it, it was a way of getting your name out there, quote, unquote, for marketing,
right?
Like go and help people go leave comments.
And when they ask a question, put out viable information.
Yeah, that title wave, so to speak, of nonsense inside of groups just blows right
over any viable, real kind of data that you can put out because a, somebody's
going to argue with you or be, I mean, it's just, there's no real point in it.
I mean, I guess it's what you're, it's like, I got to the, just to the point, I
just go, yeah, there's no real point.
Yeah, well, look, I mean, we, we, we were sent a post where somebody, you know,
wrote a post out and somebody responded to them and said, like, Hey, man, what
is going on here?
You know, this isn't how this all works.
And then it turns into this whole thing behind the scenes.
It's not even, even when you're trying to be constructive on a, you know,
private page or maybe in private and a DM, it just, it, it's all going to go
over people's heads.
We've gotten to this place and Facebook is, you know, I would say every
platform is like this, but Facebook is to an insane level that you can't make
it productive if you don't just agree with what somebody's saying.
If you say, Hey, I see this a little bit differently, that person's probably
going to DM you.
They're going to try to argue or they're going to argue with you publicly.
And to your point, you've learned lessons.
I've learned lessons, you know, for anybody not following clutch culture.
Boy, we've had some viral moments since we launched it.
And we're talking about millions of views.
You see the good, the bad and the ugly, right?
And you're never ever going to convince the ugly to see things your way.
And I think that's what Facebook has devolved into.
So if you're saying, where are we going to see the crazy?
I think Facebook's got to be the leader.
Well, let's get into it then.
Let's go into some Facebook groups.
Let's look at some posts, but let's get started with our own Facebook group.
That's the hyper clean specialist group.
And, you know, I'm curious, how many people have brought into the Brian
Mildren approach to this?
Because not a lot of work's being done.
I think there's a lot of sledding going on.
I I'm seeing nonstop PLPs, but not a whole lot of detailing content up there.
Hey, his, I think he's on snowblower duty today.
Yeah, they're getting hit.
Seems like some of you guys are having a tough go of it.
We're going to be in the 70th.
So I sent Mildren and a few other people.
I said, you know, pray for us to get through this week.
We're going to hit 80 by the weekend.
We're going to be 70s all week.
I said, we'll get through this.
You know, we'll get through this.
Keva, I'm definitely with him on the Hall of Fame of D's nuts.
That was funny.
That was a funny.
That was a good one.
And by the way, how'd that get through?
How did that get through DMV check?
You know, sometimes that stuff gets clawed back.
I don't know how many people nerd out on this stuff.
There'll be times you get letter and say, we're going to get ready your play.
Like that happens.
But in light, again, trying to hope that it cold snaps up there for you guys.
I bought another case, Keva, of cold snaps.
So you Bostonites and everybody up there.
Hopefully you guys will snap because this is our last day.
Like our forecast is the same as yours, man.
We're we're in the thirties today.
No, no walking.
No dog walked this morning because he was in the twenties.
I'm all you can't walk in the cold.
You can't you don't have a jacket.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, I don't golf in the cold.
I don't fish in the cold, you know, I don't do anything in the cold.
But we are cold snapping.
We're going to be in good weather looking forward to it.
Right. So as the season gets started, let's get into some more of maybe less
PLPs and some more detailed stuff going on in the specialist group.
Right. Like, but that is with a big part of what we love about it.
So I do have this question coming out of
Krovetis Post, this was inside of the specialist group.
What's it like cleaning a vehicle where the owner removes the manufacturers logo
and puts his own personal brands logo on the truck?
Not too many of those coming through Tulsa, Oklahoma.
Yeah, you know, since I've been doing cars, we just did a URUS
where we did a full nameplate, you know, signatures on the door
sill on the the kick plates and all that kind of stuff.
It's cool to see.
Look, he was detailing a vehicle for it.
Shaq used to own I have 350 something.
I didn't really I didn't really dig into it.
But I got to tell you, it looked cool.
Yeah, look really cool.
Looked really cool.
Looked shakinator-esque, right?
Like you go, OK, that's it's almost like
the jeeps that we see a little too much.
It's like when you see a six by six, like G-wagon, stuff like that.
I mean, that stuff's always cool to see.
All right, so but the question I have on that and this is this is going to be out
of the box because, well, pretty soon, we're going to have a product
that some people will will use to to clean.
And that is asked, you know, we're going to get into questions about,
you know, later about about what to use and when to do.
And, you know, we're looking forward to what that's going to be.
We evidently won't talk about that right now because we don't have something out.
But I just wanted to kind of like, you know, perk some stuff, perk some things.
You know, what is the difference between a semi truck?
What's the difference between a pontoon?
Those are some of the things when I looked at that and when I thought
about people cleaning it other than him, I just look at all that and go, wow.
What's it going to be?
Who's going to have all these fun things?
And what does it look like?
You know, not a question for now.
We'll get over to the next one.
And that next one was about a Porsche, not about a Porsche that belonged to Shaq.
But a Porsche that was older, belonged to somebody.
Well, that Porsche had some buttons that were sticky.
So this was Danny says, oh, sticky Porsche buttons.
What do I do?
Revive isn't cutting it.
Is it straight to replacement?
It's a 2014 Cayman.
Yeah, I mean, sticky buttons.
It's a Ferrari issue.
There are certain Porsches that have gone through a certain European cars.
I mean, everything has kind of gone through it at some point.
The coding is, you know, to make it simple terms, it's melting.
That's essentially what happened in Ferraris.
And, you know, we had another post this week about revive
on on some oil that had been had stained the dash, right?
It was what like an essential oil type.
Yeah, it was like a diffuser.
I think one of the things we don't talk about enough is that, you know,
sometimes once something's damaged, it's damaged beyond repair.
So if you're talking about sticky buttons and it's a car that somebody
cares about and they want to get them fixed, you know, there's a company,
multiple companies now that you send off the buttons and they go ahead
and replace the coating and get it back to like new and with a more
modern coating on there.
But yeah, cause you're saying coating.
Just some people are going to be like, what are you talking about?
It's a rubberized coating, basically.
From the manufacturer.
Yeah, it's not somebody's something put on there.
So you just have to have it redone and there were just failure points.
There were, you know, certain things put into, you know, limited production
type type cars at times.
There have been some some moments of Chevy, I think dealt with this on some
stuff, if I remember once upon a time.
But you just have to send them off to get fixed.
I mean, I really, you can try some, some alcohol, but you're probably
going to create some ugliness.
You might get the sticky off, but all of a sudden you might have some
white spots and different things.
I might be gray instead of black.
Yeah, like you're going to be in some real, I know guys that have used
things like, you know, acetone and created some messes.
So you need to just talk, you know, if it's your car, you need to make the call.
But if it's a customer's car, you need to kind of be like, Hey, look,
this is a failed rubberized type of coating that just needs to be handled.
So, you know, we talk about paints and we talk about different things
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