Andy Leach and Crew 2.0 | Cal Automotive Creations

And I just want to thank you guys, seriously, because that is, I truly mean that is the most impressive freaking chassis I've ever seen in my life.

Words can't describe that chassis, seriously. I mean, we've all been in this for a while, and I mean, you guys killed that thing.

I mean, I don't know how to explain that to people. They just have to see it.

That's one that generally, like, being on this side of it, you know, you try to be like, man, you appreciate it, you know, this is one where you're like, yeah, you're right.

It's fucking amazing. It really is.

Like, this is history breaking right here. There's not a chassis to date. And that's you guys.

Well, then we're...

Not a chassis to date that's been built like this.

Right.

Welcome back, another episode of Oil and Whiskey. This week, we've got Andy Leach and crew from Cal Auto.

We have Andy Leach. This is Andy right here. You'll recognize him from the other episode.

If I knew the number, I'd tell you, but it is the other episode that Andy was on, as well as...

Matt Summers.

From the other episode.

From the other episode with Andy.

And...

Rick Ulfers.

Rick Ulfers. You've got like 20 other employees out there in the showroom, too.

So I don't know what's going on at the shop right now, but you brought the entire crew out.

We brought some people. My wife is sitting over here in the corner, and she'll probably jump on in a little bit.

Straighten us all out.

Yeah.

You think that's what she's going to do?

It'll be entertaining.

A chaperone is always necessary, but I find like you haven't always been much of a chaperone.

You tend to partake in a little bit of the confugery.

Top contributor.

You've... Since the last episode, you've been up to quite a lot. You've got a Sloanaker win under your belt.

So congrats on that.

Thank you. Thank you.

And then you and the crew and Eric Black have been in the lab, as they say, cooking up some wild and crazy shit.

Is that what they say?

Is that what Eric says?

Eric's always in the lab.

Sorry, the price sounds a lot cooler when Eric says it.

Yeah, and you guys came out to check out some special projects, and we always like to do an episode in person, so let's take advantage of it.

Yeah, well thank you for having us, and it's always a good time getting together and reminiscing about the old times and the stupid stuff we've done and said.

Absolutely.

This is Cal Auto specific well or foolproof?

It is.

That is a barrel, a Cal Auto barrel pick right there.

Yes, Travis helped us pluck that out of his collection.

Thank you.

Thanks, Travis.

Travis has a chassis sitting downstairs that I'm sure we'll get into at some point in time here.

A few things to talk about there.

But yeah, we kind of had a quiet year last year.

Other than winning like the single biggest award of the year.

Beyond that kind of quiet.

Now we just kind of, we kind of took last year off, honestly, you know.

First time in about 15 years that we really just kind of kicked back and concentrated on everything in the shop and attended all the kids sporting games.

And we were there for every birthday and something that, as all us car guys know, that have ran that tour.

That's rare to do that.

It is rare.

And the right thing to do.

As long as you've been in this game.

Right.

Now is the time to do that.

How old is your daughter?

So my wife's son is 20.

And he just started working for us.

So he's now at the shop.

And I have a daughter that's 19.

That's in college going down the medical route.

And then my little guy is, he's nine.

Really into football.

He's my shot at a Heisman.

So it's a dual threat quarterback.

That's the nine year old you get it.

The other ones are gone, right?

Well, yeah, my daughter's gone.

Her son's still at home.

And then we have a seven year old girl that is a complete handful.

Some stories that we can't tell them on here, but they're quite, quite entertaining.

We talked about a few at lunch.

You guys would appreciate them.

Hey, you got your hands full.

Probably not much time to build hot rods.

That's a full house.

So a year at home was enough then.

Time to get back out on the road.

It's like, all right, did that.

Check that off the box.

Honestly, we restructured a bunch of stuff at the shop.

And Rick is the main manager at the shop and oversees everything and controls everything.

And I went back in the shop.

My wife handles a lot of the business stuff.

I have a gal in the office doing everything.

And between all of us and Matt is the quality control engineer is what we call him.

So amongst all the things that he does, a little bit of everything.

So I'm back in the shop working and I love it.

I bet.

I hate the business side of it.

I hate it.

So I'm at my little bench making shit.

That's a hell of a move.

And how did you arrive at making that move?

Prior to that, were you running the shop itself?

I was trying to do both.

And as you guys probably know, you get into this and it's like, there's way more stuff

going on than you realize when you're trying to run a business and whatnot.

And then you're trying to get out in the shop and get billable hours.

And it's like you can't do both.

I mean, you can, but it's kind of like it's fitting.

And it's struggling in both.

Yeah, exactly.

So got to do what you're good at and back out and making stuff.

And that's kind of where it's at.

How long you've been doing that?

About the whole year or last year.

Yeah.

So that's why I'm happy.

I don't want to be behind a computer or anything like that.

So is he nicer when he comes home now?

Or crab.

That was a non answer.

But now we got a heck of a crew.

We had some guys leave.

We got rid of some guys and just really restructured everything.

Got some young guys that three of them that kind of do all the Rick just points them in

the direction and we call them the three amigos and off they go and they get shit done.

So you guys are more than welcome to jump in.

These guys run a lot of it, man.

Yeah.

So three, what kind of experience did they have coming into the shop?

How long they've been with you guys?

So Michael's been with us for three years now, almost two and a half years.

Her son and he's been there for two months now.

And then Charlie's been there for about six months and they didn't have any experience

beforehand at all of pretty much anything and including life because they're pretty young.

So kind of have a teach a little bit of that and just check on them quite a bit and tell

them basically it's okay to ask questions.

And if you don't understand anything, you need to ask and tell you do because once they start

guessing, that's when things go bad.

How filthy are they when they go home at the end of the day?

They're disgusting.

That means that Charlie is disgusting.

That comes with the skill level.

I've always sort of known it unless you're doing something that's just inherently fucking dirty.

When you're young and you're green, if you're not filthy, dirty, like you're probably not

working hard enough as you get better, more experience.

Like you also do less of a shitty job.

Yeah, I'm sure as long as Andy's been doing it, when you're done, like you've you're not

wearing it, right?

You're not rolling around on the fucking floor.

You figure out how to avoid that stuff.

Yeah, poor Charlie and this probably six months he's been here.

I think he's stripped factory undercoat and shed under off underneath three different cars,

you know, and he's just under their wire wheel.

And yeah, it's a right of passage.

Isn't it?

It is.

Everybody has to do it.

Yeah, he never once complains by anything.

We've moved into on that.

We've moved into like either a full face shield or a fresh air supply with like a full suit.

Nice 15 to 20 years ago.

That is right.

Yeah.

It's been hard to smoke with that though.

There was a bit impossible.

It would have been super handy during the infamous Rhino liner gun explosion of like 07.

I feel like I've told that story.

That was about you guys talked about that when we were on here.

Yeah.

Oh, Rhino gun.

Yeah, it's a dirty job.

I will say the stripping undercoat and, you know, any kind of nasty grind and DA stuff, whatever.

I was never a person that liked, I don't like anything in my face, right?

I can get claustrophobic quick.

I don't like the hassle of, you know, changing out mass.

So I've never really wore any type of respiratory device of any such thing.

Is raw dog that thing?

Yeah.

That's the way Charlie is too.

We offer here, here's earplugs.

Here's this.

He's like, I don't need that.

There was the times of earplugs.

I wish I would have done a lot more.

Yes.

You get a couple of things in your eyes and then you'll start going to safety glasses and stuff.

But there's a drive.

Those new ports though.

Dude, your lungs are like a skittle.

I feel like you have like a skittle shell.

Oh, I've got a hard candy shell that you can't get through.

Yeah.

But there was those nights, those late, late nights or early mornings driving home after

you've done that all day long and you're like, Oh, look at that.

That's where it all went.

And that's, you know, the built in filter.

Yeah.

Didn't go into my lungs.

It all stopped right there.

That's what nose hairs for.

That's some nasty, nasty stuff.

But it's all, it's all part of it.

But it also, it serves like that weird reminder of like, you got shit done today that not a

lot of other people did.

Yeah.

You know, it's a, that dirtiness, that nasty.

None of those guys complain.

So you just sitting them at doing stuff.

It's great to have that, that, that skill set and that attitude to want to get stuff done

because there's always those things for skilled guys like yourselves that are trying to do

the skilled things and trying to move to the next step.

The worst thing that can happen is stop what you're doing.

And you're like, well, I got to spend three hours getting to this point to do the thing

that I need to be doing where you can have that kind of roll through, even just as simple

as get the car in the back lot, you have to air the tires up, we're going to roll that

in, get that in, get it up on the lift, get it there, start, you know, taking that stuff.

That's like, you know, fucking three hours of fuckery that you don't want to like do.

You want it to get it in there and get it set up.

Yeah.

It's just like all the diva paint men.

They're like, all right, go ahead, roll it in, tape it down.

Yeah.

Mix it.

Put the pressure, put the right nozzle in.

It's 68 degrees, not 69 degrees.

It's an interesting topic to touch on.

I feel like we've sort of beat this to death lately.

We've had a lot of young guys on here talked a lot about like staffing, finding help.

And it's a, I mean, it's a problem across the entire industry.

So taking a guy, like you got a guy who's got three months experience.

Now you got a guy that's got three years.

How are you using those guys and making it effective for the shop?

Like what kind of task, how are you organizing it?

What instruction are you giving them?

How are you managing a guy with very minimal experience to get something out of them?

Well, the first thing you got to do is make kind of give them small jobs.

Start with that.

And then you'll learn their skill level pretty quick actually.

And then it's all, you know, memory and everything else, what they're good at.

Start them by disassembling some things.

Start them on by sandblasting.

How fast they get it done.

I mean, do they come to you with questions?

And it kind of depends on the job that you want to give them with how much you can trust somebody.

Sure.

And the good thing is like not only these, you know, these kids are like they are,

but they also fit in too to how we all operate and act.

Okay.

I mean, they'll have a certain act to them.

And so do we.

We get along with only certain people, it seems like.

And we all have this, the certain people around us at all times at the shop.

It's like, like a thick skin situation.

Is that what goes on?

Like you gotta scan.

Yeah, for sure.

For sure.

Chemistry is big though.

Yeah.

I mean, it's, it's a big family.

And I know a lot more about them than I do my own family, to be honest.

They spend more time with them, right?

Yeah, for sure.

That's something you said we have.

We've talked about a lot with some of the younger, talking about the younger kids coming

up in some of the schools and stuff.

And we haven't really touched on or talked about the importance of that's those set up

the, the setup and staging and then the breakdown after like whatever the thing is,

right, whether it's sitting down and, and, you know, doing some crazy aluminum welding

or it's going to be some sheet metal forming or it's going to be, you know,

some fab welding on the car.

The setup and breakdown after that.

You're getting pretty high level here like this.

Is there some pretty detailed examples?

I'm just saying, no matter what part you're.

Like welding on a car.

I mean, you're doing, we're welding a panel on a car and right there.

So whatever you're doing in the shop, there's always, there's always a,

sometimes a very significant amount of setup, you know, painting a vehicle.

There's significant amount of setup and then there's significant amount of breakdown

after the fact to get the shop back.

Those are, even if it's an entry level skill set, growing along and learning how,

you know, your mentor or whoever you're apprenticing with or whoever you're

working with likes everything set up, right?

You're learning that much more about the process.

Even if you're not doing the process, it, they don't ever share in that credit of

the thing, right?

Because the setup done right and done efficiently allows you or whoever to do

the thing that much faster and that much better.

The breakdown of whatever that is, you know, cleaning the booth, cleaning

everything out and getting everything ready allows the next setup to happen

that much faster.

It's taken for granted because it looks like it's just, you know, it's just, you know.

Yeah, you're sort of taking.

Low man on the pole, hey, get this thing ready and so like that.

Some of these tasks just take time and it doesn't take any skill, but it takes

time and it helps the process.

It has to be done.

Like putting a car on jack stands, you know, moving a car from one stall to

other, putting it on jack stands, like spin it around, racking it.

Yeah.

Those are all things that like, yeah, they probably, you know, do it 40 times

and all of a sudden like a dude who, now he's got a skill.

He's the guy that can rack a car quickly.

I mean, he's the jack.

Well, I mean, I do, I think it is important though, like you said, to, we probably

all, and there's all of their shops that have taken for granted that there is no

spot for an entry level guy.

You know, well, I don't have anything for an entry level guy, but think about how

many times you've got a talented fabricator and you're, you know, customers

coming and you're looking at stuff and you're like, we finally got the body set

where we want it to be wheels and tires are here.

Throw the wheels and tires on it.

Get the, get it off the jack stands, roll it forward so we can stand back and look

at it.

Right.

And you got a, you got a talented fabricator or three doing that type of stuff.

Right.

When it should be planned and organized and be like, hey, we've got to this point,

three amigos, get the wheels and tires on this thing, get some mock-up struts in

there for ride height, get it off the jack stands, put it, roll it forward.

We're going to hop over here, finish this part, do this, this, this, and, and work

more efficiently.

You take it for granted, the stuff that is in between the time and a lot of times

when it comes to that stuff, it's when, that's when a fabricator is like, ooh, I'll

do some of this stuff because I'm excited to see what it looks like, but he don't

need to be doing that.

He needs to be well and he needs to be fabricating.

He needs to be using his skill set and then let everybody else fill, fill in the, the

gaps.

Yeah.

You hit the nail on the head.

It's efficiency, you know.

100%.

You know.

Team, it's all it is.

New position.

Hot rod roadies.

Roadies.

Yeah.

I'd like to see it like a doctor, like an operating room where like the senior fabricator

like Andy's sitting there and he's working.

He's got his right angle center and he holds it up.

There's a guy behind him.

He takes it or he holds up the die grinder and the guy plugs the air.

Yeah.

That's probably body hammer.

Yeah.

Body hammer dude reaches around with the dolly and you just do it like one handed.

How cool would that be?

Impact.

Yeah.

Yeah, that could be.

It takes some training, but it would be a little weird.

Probably.

It'd be at first.

It's like a very intimate.

You'd have to really tolerate that guy.

He'd be working shoulder to shoulder with him.

For sure.

Yeah.

I'd do it.

It'd be cool for a while.

Dolly work can be.

Yeah.

That's sometimes that's teamwork on like a long quarter pass.

Sure.

You can't give it the reach around.

And, uh, here we go.

No, it's that way.

But the opportunity was there.

Yeah.

The thing that's different though, like about a smaller shop like we have for, you know,

guys is sometimes there's going to be multiple guys that are doing different jobs at different

times, right?

Because we don't have enough, you know, guys for one for every job.

Sometimes we'll, I know I'll go and, you know, pull a car apart real quick because we need

it apart.

Distant, you know, to scan or whatever or I'll get a car in a trailer because it has

come here.

I mean, there's all jobs and he, Matt does a bunch of jobs.

I do a bunch of jobs.

Eric does a bunch of jobs.

Like we assemble a car.

We disassemble cars.

We fab metal.

Um, we, I do chassis work.

I mean, it, we all do everything and Andy does everything besides painting and mutton,

but he's then he can mud.

I stay away from that.

But everybody has multiple jobs that we do.

And then like if, say, if I know Matt's going to paint something, I'll go to a guy and I

can't even go to Matt and say, how do you want this done?

So they do it right.

And that's the biggest thing about it is, is that's why I look kind of like new guys

that don't know anything because some guys, it's not going to say, Hey, I'm just going

to do this job.

How I want to do it.

And we can train them how we would prefer to have it done.

It's good to work with them, especially with these three amigos.

Like I'll work with them for a couple of days on the paint prep stuff.

Like this is how I want this mast.

And this is why I want this mast this way.

Or this is how I want this hung in the booth so I can paint it.

You might just have to hold that mic.

It's just, it's just not getting, you know, we've tried and we've had some success with

it.

We've also had some failures.

I guess you call them failures with it with trying to bring in some young guy in your

hiring, maybe based on attitude, like you think he's got the right attitude.

He's into cars.

Maybe he did like a welding course or something.

And obviously they've applied for the job.

So they've got some sort of interest in it.

But, you know, I find that it's like we try to do stuff like that.

You know, you give them some entry level tasks.

And it's more like either the character or the work ethic that struggles.

And then they sort of get like bounced because that guy, like how you're saying it's nice

to work with them.

Well, that fabricator, somebody working with him, he's sort of like, now he's kind of

gotten in the way.

Right.

And then it's like, they kind of get bounced to the next department.

It's like, well, this isn't really working out, but a very sort of rudimentary task that

doesn't take a lot of instruction is we'll prep in parts.

We put a DA in your hand and there's a bunch of stuff back in the body shop that will prep.

And then he goes back there and does that.

And again, it's a work ethic issue where you've got three, four guys back there.

And they're like, well, fuck this.

You can throw that on the ground.

You know, chuck it on the ground.

It's not going to hurt anything.

This guy is just like, it's just quicker for me to do it.

Yeah.

And we definitely have experienced that.

That's a hard one to break.

Hard thing to balance at times.

You almost can't teach that.

I mean, there's like, you can't after it.

There's like one kick in the ass.

And if that doesn't work, then I just struggle to find how you can.

You can fix it.

You know, I don't, I don't.

You sort of get, I guess you just get kind of lucky or you don't, right?

You can't fix a work ethic.

You can.

That's what, I mean, we've, we've had this discussion and differing opinions forever.

And I value work ethic even over skill set because skill set, in my opinion, can be taught.

I know you say that there's things that you're either born with or you're not.

I mean, we talk about it all the time with the way you look.

It's like, it's just, that's just it.

It's not going to change no matter how many times I bring it up.

You can tweak it a little bit, but it to a sense like it's.

Yeah.

I don't know how that applies.

We're talking about like that.

You can't, you can't fix the work ethic.

I think sort of connection.

Okay.

I get it.

But I roundabout way, like just try to play.

I don't think that, that you can, you can, I could be wrong, but I, we've had people,

you know, that have had turnarounds after, you know, a sit down or in depth, you know,

heart to heart, but work ethic you're either born with it or you don't have it, you know,

at varying degrees.

Or you can give them something to work for.

Maybe they don't have anything to work for.

So they don't show any effort.

Yeah.

What do you incentivize that with?

Is that are you, are you giving them like a financial goal, a next step, like work this

hard and you'll, this is what you'll get to do next.

Yeah.

All right.

He keeps Werther's originals in his toolbox.

Oh, so you got the ring brothers working over there.

The elderly crowd.

The key is, the key is.

You want to try something like the freeze dried candy or, you know, some stuff.

The kids are in.

You got to keep them in your pocket and let them get them.

Go ahead.

And warm too.

Nice little candy.

Reach in there.

Is that how you met Chris Hansen?

Yeah.

It's a similar question.

Like you got them doing like the more basic stuff than you look over and see some of the

other things in the shop.

And it's from their point of view, I'd be the same.

Like I want to do that.

Like I want to build that hood scoop.

I don't want to keep taking undercoding off.

Like how do you keep them motivated to, you're not there yet.

You're going to be there.

We'll give you a little taste of that while doing the other stuff that needs to be done.

Let them try to build the hood scoop.

And then you're like, yeah.

No, you're not there yet.

No, it's cool.

We kind of move them around a lot and kind of try and find, we've found that Michael,

we call him playboy.

We've kind of found that he's got a real knack for polishing.

And straightening trim.

Straightening trim, which is a mind numbing, but skillful task.

He's a detailed guy.

Very detail oriented.

He's really good at that.

We found that for him.

And so when we have that stuff to do, like by all means, by all means, jump on it.

Yeah, for sure.

So we, you know, over time, he's been there for two and a half years.

Like I said, like we found stuff that he's really good at and he's learning skills so

that he can be good at other things too.

And that's his goal too.

And that is one thing that I think for a long time.

He just wants to learn.

I think in 20 years that people like that and him in particular are going to be such a

more valued employee in this industry because of learning from that and doing so many of

different little things.

And then, you know, he's going to, those things are going to find, you know, he's going to

find his niche, right?

He's going to be, I do this for the predominantly, but I've also done this and I've also done

this versus no shot at, you know, sheet metal fabricators, but sometimes as talented as

they are coming out of school and doing that.

It is very, it is very narrow on sometimes.

If you're super talented on shaping, you're just a metal shaper.

You know, there's times where it takes to, you got to build a bracket, we got to hang

an AC box, you know, we got to hang some of this stuff.

And it's, it's a, can be a bit of a challenge in some people's skill set.

Let's use Michael for example here.

He's been with us two and a half years.

He's learning a lot of things.

He may not be very good at a few things, but after time, some of that's just going to

start clicking.

You know what I mean?

I mean, eventually when you get that experience and seeing all that stuff and like I said,

shaping or straightening trim and all that, the kid's wonderful at it.

It's actually scary.

So if he can straighten trim, the guy's going to be able to straighten sheet metal at some

point in time, you know, so just being well balanced and taking it all in and pretty soon

it's going to click.

Or you're just going to make a great living at straightening trim because nobody does

it.

So it's going to be the guy, especially that young.

Right.

Only people left straightened trim are like 95 years old or so.

Yeah.

But it's interesting to think about it all in your, in your guy's shop because the stuff

you're doing is, I mean, you're building some really, really high end stuff.

So in our shop, we've got kind of a variety and there's some pretty, I would consider

entry level like survivor type jobs that those are kind of easy to throw a guy at and break

down a simple task.

But like this, which we can on, there's a lot to unpack there.

Let's just go, baby.

Yeah.

Where do you throw a guy?

I mean, this is, you're talking, it's going to be a scratch built car.

How do you break out tasks and something like that to give to a guy?

That might not be one they touch for all that's the answer.

Well, they got to unload the sheet metal and stack it.

There you go.

Right.

Yeah.

Sweep around it.

Set up the jig table, you know, there's all kinds of things.

So how did the, you know, that Jeremy's tossed it up segway?

segway.

Where did that come about?

So Travis, that we built the Wagoneer four years ago, was looking to do another project

and the Wagoneer wasn't even done yet.

Former best on RS top five winner, Travis.

That's right.

He still sports that belt.

Where's that thing?

Were you saying yesterday he built?

He was a winner.

Winner, not only top five.

Oh, I said top five, didn't I?

Yeah, you did.

I apologize.

Nice way to correct me.

He wore it to the airport or some shit.

I can see how today's going to go.

I've picked up a couple of things.

I did that in a nice kind of way.

I didn't, I could have, I could have been way worse.

Hey, you could have drawn no attention to it.

Well, I want the facts to be right.

I said winner.

Okay.

Yeah.

That's, that's now built into his kitchen.

That's what I hear.

I've not been in his kitchen, but we've heard so it's the best on RS belts built into his

kitchen.

Really made a little display for it.

I guess.

That's cool.

Pictures and send.

Yeah, we need to see that.

It's going to be a new trend.

That's going to be on like the 2026 house best kitchen kitchen trends, gold plating wrestling

belts.

Yeah.

That thing's cool.

It's really cool.

It's a nice little trophy for sure.

Travis came forward.

He wanted to do something different.

He was talking like an Aston Martin or something and our buddy Eric Black happened to have

this concept that he'd been working on for a while and he, he sent it to me and he goes,

you know, but anybody to be interested in it and I presented Travis and he goes, yeah,

that's the car.

It was just like that.

So, and that was probably four years ago.

Okay.

Then we kind of went down the path.

We had the motor built, falconier down in Arizona built the motor and whatnot and then

we were trying to figure out doing a lot of, it's all computer work and the car is surface

modeled in the computer and whatnot and trying to figure out the track with a wheel base,

everything stands and that whatnot and it's kind of when we handed the reins over to you

guys and really we didn't give you much input.

But just provided a few photos of 54 Morazzarotti's and cars of that era and kind of suspension

that we had in mind and whatnot and you guys got involved and Noah took over and holy shit.

Noah has rocked it out.

So these things, you know, I'm usually heavily involved in these.

And on the beginning of this, it was sort of like sitting down with Noah and we brainstormed

a little and I feel like I just kind of gave him the general like we knew it had to be

a tube chassis, which for us is very difficult because that's not something we do at all.

Yeah.

Thanks for that.

It would have been very, it would have been very easy to just convert it into like, oh

just slide right then.

Yeah.

No problem right there on the production line.

Yeah.

I gave him like a few examples of things just to get it because he's a younger guy, wildly

talented, but maybe it not like like Eric Black's going to know exactly how to make

that thing look.

And then the only other thing that we talked about was like, yeah, dude, just go ahead.

If you want to design it to machine it, fucking design it to machine it, like it was kind

of like, I mean, not to say that we completely threw the budget out the window, but we let

him spread his wings.

And if you can design it as a machine part, design it as a machine part and then it was

kind of like.

The worst thing you wanted to do was put guardrails on him along that design process.

And from there, and he Noah took it and ran and that is all his handiwork and truly mind

blowing.

I mean, and then being able to connect with you guys on the machine parts and what a great

experience to have a crate show up of just some of the most badass machine components

like that I've ever seen that certainly helps push the build forward and lightens the lift

on our end.

But really fun.

I mean, to see that thing kind of evolve and to see what what Noah did with it and how

it's so fresh.

I mean, that's so different than anything we've ever done.

I mean, it's crazy.

I mean, you know, obviously we've been looking at pictures and progress for this has been

going on for about three years now.

And then, like I said, you guys machined.

I don't know how many parts are on that spreadsheet, but that video you sent of me of the body

sheets and you've seen the notes on there.

It's a machine parts next sheet or even more somehow still even fucking more.

But I don't know how many parts are on that list, but it's a shit ton.

And then we you guys sent us all the big items and we had almost eight, nine months of machining,

just solely machining those parts.

And yeah, so I'm sitting on the table down there.

So it's good to see they arrived safely.

And, you know, words don't words can't describe that chassis.

Seriously, I mean, I we've all been in this for a while.

And I mean, you guys killed that thing.

I mean, I don't know how to explain that to people.

They just have to see it.

That's one that generally like being on this side of it.

You know, you try to be like, man, you appreciate it.

You know, this is one you're like, yeah, you're right.

It's fucking amazing.

It really is fucking amazing.

This was an interesting one even for me to kind of observe because you've got

that the talent that came together to do it like Curtis on welding it.

Like that wasn't I didn't hand select Curtis to go ahead and build this and weld it.

Like internally, the guys kind of put this team together.

And I mean, he's welled in that thing.

We don't weld tubes like tube copes is not something we regularly do.

And he's welled in that fucker like a trophy truck.

Like, yeah, I mean, it is it's it's killer.

And to see it all come together and it being torsion bars and there's just so much unique stuff.

It it's really wild on the you talked about,

you know, the shop environment and, you know, everybody's got their groups, you know,

they get along with it's funny.

Not.

Forget the fact of how disrupting and awful it was to put that into a production

environment and keep up with pace.

But other than that, you know, it took the place of about seventy five production channels.

Or a hundred.

Anyway, it's funny how coming through, you know, through engineering and starting,

you know, again, trying to trying to be strategic and plan, you know,

there's no sensing and started until you've got all the parts, you know,

and planning around that.

OK, it's going to be hitting this.

You're looking at what our production windows or available windows are to line that up.

And then you've got, you know, some of your other fabricators and stuff.

Everybody gets really gets along a lot.

And, you know, as that stuff starts kind of getting through and, you know,

we get tubes here and we get some other CNC parts starting to get, you know,

jigs cut and stuff.

And there's there's like the very interested party.

You know, it's like, what's going on?

You're going to get checking this, you know, and then there's the I got.

I got my things to do.

I'm not really worried about all that.

You know, I'm just going to keep on building my chassis.

I'll build like 15 by the time he's done with it.

And no, no bad problems.

But, you know, just, you know, a little bit of purposeful disinterest,

you know, until it starts getting jigged.

And then it's like, what are you guys doing over here?

Oh, I was just like, you were checking out.

I was like, I had to walk over the argon.

We store the argon now neck underneath the chassis.

And I get the fuck back to work.

But it was cool because everyone's like, oh, shit.

And even with Curtis, you know, Curtis is a great dude.

Been here, you know, a long time, super talented.

And anytime you have a super talented, you know, individual,

especially in the chassis shop or even the hot rod shop, you know,

they've got their own unique mental states and attitudes, you know,

so this going, it's hell, yeah, can't believe I'm getting the opportunity.

This is going to be amazing.

This is awesome.

Then just like a kid on Christmas morning, you dump that Lego 16

and over technic set out, right?

And dump it out all on the table.

And then it's like, this is fucking bullshit.

Like, how's this is not good?

There's no way this is going to go together.

And then in like two hours, it's like, oh, look at that.

Yeah, I mean, actually, it's pretty cool.

Like, if you see, like this is all of it.

It was it's awesome to see the progression of through that.

And like, he just took it and owned it.

Like never, never had an issue, never had anything.

Now, there is a fucking encyclopedia Britannica for three inches thick.

It is huge. Yeah.

And I'm thinking like, Noah has just been floating.

He's like on cloud nine around the shop ever since this thing went into production.

Yeah, I mean, he's going to fall down the stairs.

I can see it.

And one coming about 400 times.

So when when do you think we're going to get the body chassis going?

When do you think we're going to do that?

You talked to Andy, like you talked to Andy.

When was it? When's it going to hit production?

Now that it's built, I have a feeling we're going to see, you know,

to pull Eric Black back in the nose and engineer, right?

Well, just leave it there from there.

I think you're going to see a little bit of like Eric Black style on Noah.

There's going to be maybe some hand tattoos.

Some sort of leather jacket.

A really big.

It's yeah, something like I think he's going to get 280Z tattooed on his knuckles.

It's like, well, I mean, cool tattoo.

But like engineer MF or or something like, I don't know how many

you know, MF, E, R something.

Interesting. No, that's.

You know, looking at that last few weeks, we've seen pictures

and we had to come up and see it in person.

But equally as impressive as all the fixturing and the way you guys did that

because like I said, yeah, it's a pile of tubes and what the hell do you do with these tubes?

Well, Noah and you guys came up with all these

the fixtures are just as impressive.

Yeah, seeing it in the jig was right way more impressive

than seeing it out of the jig right now.

The cool part about all those fixtures is that we get to use them again.

Oh, yeah, that's right.

Well, he had that where it was like a plate and all the laser fixtures going up

and then laser edge where all the tubes were on that plate that was on the table.

Basically, yeah, it's like the kid, the kid's a genius.

And so I told Curtis, dude, all the instructions are there.

He's talking about all you got to do is weld it together.

I'll be back in an hour.

But even the way he like this, that that rear torsion mount

that slips into the bar and it's like a flush fit.

And he said it's all tapered.

So it has to if the chassis moves when that when that mount is out or something,

it'll it'll like draw itself back in.

Yeah. And then he had threaded holes in that that if there's ever it's like wedged in there.

He's got a solution for that, too.

It's like everything has been thought of often.

It's everything we're we're going in depth on it because.

We want people when they see it to understand

like what goes into something like that.

And when you do see it and you've you saw it today.

There is something so wild about, I say wild

as much as all that goes into like.

When you're when anybody is listening to this and sees it in person,

think about the drafting right of all of those components together.

That is a it's a three dimensional puzzle like.

It's it's weird.

It really is weird.

It's bad ass. That's what it is.

It is. It's 100 percent bad ass. Yeah.

It's almost a shame to put a car on top of it.

Realistically, I mean, the chassis is pretty.

You don't have to, you don't.

It'll be a neat one to see.

It'll be a neat one to see come together for sure to see it as a rolling piece,

just because it's so so unorthodox and such a departure from what we typically do.

So I haven't been that excited about it.

I mean, it's probably it's safe to say it's the coolest one we've by far.

I just thought of something come bringing it full circle.

Me and Jeremy were out in the shop last last week, I think late last week.

Looking at the chassis and we're talking.

It was just me and him talking about how good of a job Curtis is doing.

Look at all the machine stuff, you know, talking about Noah.

Holy shit, you know, the amount of stuff he's did.

We're just sitting there having one of those moments like, holy,

then look at this, look at this.

We don't get a lot of time during the day right to talk.

So it's like into the day we're looking at over it.

I said, I tell you who I hate to be when I tell you, he told me the dude

that's got a finger fuck this thing for prep.

But then I was before I knew about three Amiga.

So now I understand.

Yeah, because if you're planning on doing it like old like back

when we were doing 30s cars and they had tubular center cross members

and that was that was the move your finger swipe and every TIG weld and blending them.

But oh, you're not going to swipe it.

That's the look for this.

No, this car is going to stay raw.

I mean, what's right there?

That's that's what we're using.

We might seracote everything there and just run it as is.

I know it's pitch and chrome and the whole thing.

Regardless, it's not going to stay what my I didn't mean bodywork.

I meant it can't stay bare steel.

Oh, you some say it has to be coated.

Well, anything that has to be coated has to be prepped.

Either prepped and primed.

And if that's be primed, it has to be.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, but the good part is only like six feet long.

It's like a skateboard compared to anything else.

It's 9000 feet of tube.

I don't care how this is.

Stretch it out in a single line.

Yeah, how many tubing connection and all those little dimple die things.

That's a lot.

Yeah.

Think about priming that thing and then just scuffing it.

Just scuff.

Don't even bodywork it.

Just seracote and bead blasts where it's at.

There's a coat.

You know, that's a car that you don't have to get crazy with as with finishing.

You're right.

I could tell.

I could tell after seeing that you're right.

You didn't get crazy.

Well, I mean, things can be more raw.

That's what I'm getting.

Brushed aluminum and rivets and exposed like welds can be.

Because everything is every single piece of that thing.

Yes.

Is each piece is impressive.

I mean, every single piece.

So you don't got to go to like this.

Yeah, bead blasts and seracotes.

The only way to go it is.

Yeah.

That's the only way it saves anybody's things and sanity.

I can't wait to see the car starting to come together because I know

I know what you guys do and it will truly be mind blowing.

Like once once it gets to that stage, we'll all forget about the chassis

because there's going to be so much rad stuff going on with the body.

I mean, we're talking this.

I'm assuming it'll be built out of aluminum.

Yeah. Right.

So scratch built aluminum bodied car that it's truly a

absolutely beautiful car like seeing the rendering.

I was sold on it from the get go, which is why I was willing to

completely fuck up the whole shop and make something out of tubes,

because that's the way that's what it needed to complement that car.

But the I mean, man, the roof line, the fenders,

it's almost got like that early Testerosa Ferrari look that just is

it's a fucking piece of art, man.

And I'm sure you guys are going to nail it.

You got bucks being built already.

He's going to do those the easy way.

Yeah, whatever that is, incremental panel for me.

You don't even have to touch it.

Well, there's that.

He was going to machine most of the.

So, yeah. So we'll kind of go down this road here a little bit.

Like five access and I just want to thank you guys.

Seriously, because that is what I truly mean.

That is the most impressive fricking chassis I've ever seen in my life.

I mean, it is like you, man, I appreciate that.

That means words don't describe it.

It's a ton coming from, you know, you guys were texting pictures and whatnot.

And it's like, wow, that's crazy, you know, and even Travis,

I told Phil this earlier today that Travis called me at I think it was

yesterday or day before and he goes, all right, so don't bullshit me here.

He goes, you're telling me this chassis is bad ass.

But he goes, when you hang up with me, he goes, is this like the gayest fucking

thing you've ever seen in your life?

Are you bullshitting me?

And I go, no, dude, it's like even Phil is saying like this thing is unreal.

It's like you can't put it into words.

Like you just try to explain it.

It's just it's fucking bad.

It's fucking amazing.

Is there going to be teaser picks out there of this?

Yeah, we're working through that.

And is it OK to say what our plan is if you want to?

So we'll probably get the chassis here in about a month or whatnot back home.

And we're going to progress with building the skeleton of the car.

Oh, is this going where I think it's going?

Yeah. Yeah, that's not going to be told.

Now we're going to wait on that.

That's this. This is that's a surprise.

All right, we'll do that then.

No, that's a surprise.

You show up and find out we're going to build the skeleton of your business.

You can tell you whatever you want to leave that alone.

But that's a surprise.

It's it's time to think about the body of the car is all surface models.

So we got to go back and start building the jams and whatnot.

And we're going to machine all the jams, all the window openings, everything.

And the reason we're doing that we're machine them in pieces

and they key together and weld them together.

But then we can get this thing in even the way it attaches to the chassis.

All going to be it's all going to be modeled and machined and figured out.

There will obviously be some sheet metal work in there in places.

But that way we can get this thing as a symmetrical, you know,

you can hand build this thing.

But, you know, how those cars look when you square them up in the car.

Yeah. So we're going to have the skeleton of the car, the door,

the door openings, window openings, you know,

probably even the hood and trunk headlights, everything as a fixture on this chassis.

Sure. And we'll probably end up building the cowl of the car

and get the motor trans in it.

And honestly, we're going to probably drive the thing and and bare metal

or as a bare chassis and kind of the skeleton of the car.

And you're going to be out there forming the body.

I'll be helping on it.

Eric, it works for me is probably going to do most of the shaping.

OK.

He's kind of already put his stamp on. He wants to do that.

So but that's easily going to take us into the fall

and then we'll we'll see what happens from there.

So you're going to machine most of the inner structure.

That'd be cool to see like the the pillars with the hinges

like the hinge posts and everything function that's a it's a great way to approach it.

You know, you can you can model that and animate it, get it to all work

and in solid works and fusion or whatnot and have an absolutely killer piece.

What are you doing for like a

inner door latch stuff and window mechanisms and all that?

Oh, of course. I mean, but you're you're going to remachine your own bear cause, I assume.

Little auto popper on there.

Can you give any tolerance level on the movement on those three eighths?

Yeah, that's the beauty of a bear.

In out and up and down or is it?

Have you ever thought about taking those those auto lock poppers?

Wonder now it's 2026.

Wonder if we could do like 24 volt where those things just the big ones.

They were loud before.

But imagine if you can, I mean, enhance that a bit.

I mean, this is a custom car.

Let's let's put the power to it.

I think the car.

Yeah, I want to see the car rock.

The problem is going to be the crimp on the wire that connects it to the latch.

He goes never home with the old one.

You see that you see the door skin kind of sucked in a little bit.

Oh, the beauties of old school.

It will be mostly like the unfinished, brushed or like full interior.

A lot of it's going to be raw.

And some of that we haven't quite got to either.

And we have a we have a general idea in our head, but you know,

some of the stuff just evolved.

Yeah, yeah.

So do dealing with Eric Black, given him, you know, he's

him and your former employer, Troy, has gotten too many mentions.

Too many mentions, lots of lots of

positivity around their talent, right?

And everybody's got skeletons in the closet.

Troy's taking a little heat.

He took a little tumble.

I think he took a little fall from grace, figuratively and literally.

You go through a fucking top of a paint booth.

I don't give a fuck how many custom cars you built.

That's a that's a that's that's taking you down a couple of notches, right?

It's taking you down about nine feet.

The thing with Eric, like everybody has used Eric.

He's doing stuff for you guys and whatnot.

And the guy just like, it doesn't matter what it is.

He pulls through.

It's all 100 percent.

I mean, I showed you the picture.

This wasn't promoting him more.

This was kind of knocking him down.

Well, my question was going to be, have you ever have you ever gotten to that?

I mean, you've built a lot of cars that Eric's designed.

There's you ever send him back an invoice?

Like, you realize you realize how hard that was to fucking make?

And I get it. It's to scale.

Don't worry, it's to scale.

It's still fucking hard.

That seems impossible. One side of it.

It's a good business plan.

It's a good idea that we should look into it.

I wanted to bring up something similar as we're talking to Noah today

and how he engineered things that physically couldn't be built

right or done in solid works.

And he had to figure out how to do it.

Like, there's nothing better than normally it's the other way.

Well, it's been engineered, just build it.

And now I can't even.

I can't get in the computer system to be built.

The math doesn't exist yet.

Eric's great, though.

I've only dealt with him on two projects formerly.

And I like Eric a lot.

I loved having him on here.

And it. But there was always those times,

a couple of times where it was like, now, hear me out.

I know it's going to sound like it's a lot,

but I've kind of figured this out.

We're only going to shift the wheelbase three inches, right?

And we're going to do this.

And then the top is going to actually come off of this other car.

But I found a couple of them that's close to you that you can prove.

I'm like, well, dude, you said that's not going to be a lot.

Like finding the donor car isn't that big of a deal.

It's all the other shit that's got to be done.

You want to build something average?

There's guys, there's guys you can hire to design that.

But, dude, I just said design.

Like I needed a new hubcap design.

I didn't like the earlier one.

And now we're rebodying the car.

Is there smoke?

Cigarettes? No, he's he looks like he's pretty cool.

I'm trying to build the whole character.

He's still he's still, for some reason, he's on this.

Like he's a full blown rancher and grew up as a rancher.

He gives me shit all the time.

He sends me texts.

I'm not fully convinced.

You don't think he's cool.

Don't get me wrong, but it's I think Portland.

Just yeah, no, we've we've talked about that.

He's from Wyoming.

Well, allegedly, that's the thing.

Even like we we talked about the three amigos and we talked about other guys

with if you've got the work ethic, you can learn everything.

Eric's been around for a long time just because he says he's done all these

things and he's that cool now.

I don't know if he started out that cool.

I think he's been working at being cool for a while.

There I'm telling you right now, rings of himself.

There's got to be possible.

He's on first revision.

There's got to be somebody out there in the in the interwebs in that's listening.

Somebody's got a picture of Eric Black, like high school.

He's got frosted tips and jinkos or something.

I've got there's going to be a picture of Eric Black that Eric Black

doesn't want anybody to see.

You're right.

Like like that one at Troy right behind you.

Yeah, that one he didn't.

Nobody wants to see that.

I'm that I'm putting a quest now.

I'm putting a bounty.

What's it worth?

Is this a new venture?

You guys are going down with everybody.

Oh, yeah.

Eric anyway, you got to have dirt.

I want I want a I want physical picture.

There's people out there.

Is Eric have any siblings we can get in touch with?

Is he's got a sister or something?

I just see Eric as a here.

He probably had nine or ten siblings.

Eric is homeschooled in Wyoming, and he thought that was a cool story

to say he grew up in Wyoming.

He's not been as cool as he is now forever.

I'm on the flat out.

I'm on the other.

He's just not.

I just want to believe it.

Like, I don't need to disagree.

There's not that many cool people like that out there.

That's Waylon Jennings level.

Cool. And he but you think that those just those just fall off trees.

Once in a generation, dude.

Yeah, you know, Eric Black is is so cool.

I think he's crafted it.

You're calling him out.

He is cool.

I'm not taking that away from him.

Yeah, but like I don't want to go back and like there's probably pictures

of Waylon Jennings that aren't flattering that would make you not want to like even

unflattering drunk ass, strong, outweighing Jennings is still pretty cool.

There's a I'm just saying this is the facts I have.

I don't like.

Yeah, I want to picture.

So I always want to picture Stallone as Rambo or Rocky.

OK, that's what I don't want to like find the pictures.

Let you send me the video in the in the movie.

Those dude, I'm cool with like just Eric's the dude with the bad ass

leather jacket and just looks and I'm not.

Let's just leave it at that.

There's we all have pictures of ourselves out there that we would we would

rather didn't exist, right?

We've all made bad decisions and choices in life, right?

Andy definitely had frosted.

Right now is the time that we post the one up that we get sent of Andy, right?

All right, that's right here in the bottom of the episode.

We all have that.

But I'm just saying there's there's those that exist of Eric

that's going to show you his humanity and the size of like he grew up

just like everybody else, right?

I can see him being a huge Green Day fan back in the day.

I think he's a little too old and there and I'm going to go so far as I.

There's a there's one of those tattoos.

If you pay attention, it probably changes locations because he it's an add on.

There's like a temp.

You think it's temporary?

It's a temporary word drawn on.

I don't know.

I think those knuckles tattoos have said three different things.

The time I've seen it, I'm still I'm still you might get a close up of

him. He's he's from Portland and not a fighter, but he's going to turn into one.

That one is going to be that might be what proves it when it when it leaves

a mark temporary tattoos left on your face.

He knows that it's comes from that be cool.

You'd be the only one to have Eric Black's knuckles tattooed on.

What's that?

Oh, that's a fist.

Yeah. All right, the picture that it either proves that your wife truly loves

and cares about you or maybe it really doesn't exist.

But the Josh cheetah hair.

I've seen it once.

Picture we've been trying to get our hands on it from the mini trucker Josh

days or import Josh days and we cannot.

We can't get it.

It's not going to happen.

Is does it exist and she's protecting it?

It exists.

I mean, I'll break into the house.

Right.

So it exists.

Yeah, it exists.

And she's just not coming off it.

I or she doesn't know where it is.

Is this what in all, you know, in honesty, yeah, after this weekend's

little text chain and a fucking asshole, Vinny wants to send a text.

You were on it of the which one of the was Western Josh on the road tour.

Oh.

And I don't think she, I don't think she wants to see the picture

that you're asking for, judging by her reaction to that picture.

Did that disrupt things in the bedroom?

Did that make it?

Oh, that night it was off limits.

Roll over, you sleep on your side.

She I if I were to talk to her the way she talked to me after seeing that picture,

she's like, I just want you to know I can't unsee that.

And I can't believe I was with you when you looked like that.

Wow.

Yeah.

That's nice of you.

I didn't send that.

Vinny sent that.

How did he get it?

Probably for me.

Fucking assholes.

Anyway, we could probably make the we could probably make the leopard

print or cheat a print picture up here at some point.

I'd like that.

That'd mean a lot.

It's got to be for like a special episode about my season, season ender.

How about my birthday?

I'd like that.

That'd be a great birthday present.

Bad on a cake.

Yeah. Well, I want it to last forever.

So I'd rather it be a physical copy of the picture.

Is that what you want for your birthday? Yes.

You want that picture?

Yeah, that's it.

You don't want like answer center pictures?

Uh, I mean, I'll take everything you want to give me.

What about?

I wouldn't mind just that.

I'd be satisfied with just that on a four by six or something.

I think I think I know where some of that stuff exists.

OK.

Some pictures of Jody and.

Back in the day.

Back in her prime, we're going to show pictures

and she's going to if she's going to give you pictures of me,

then I'm bringing pictures out of her to bring it out.

Yeah, you should bring them out first so you win.

That'll show her.

All right, enough about Terry and Eric Blackdown.

He's too fucking cool.

I mean, he is cool.

We all know that he's fucking cool.

The.

I don't know where I was going with that.

I would just I'm thinking about the the the Peterbilt picture you sent

and like the vibe of everything, you know.

Say the only one thing that I'll cut.

What a fan of that Mustang drawing for Troy Ladd back in the day.

Which was that the fastback?

New model Mustang they did for it's like for Troy built it.

Oh, the black one is the Ford hard top.

Yeah, yeah.

That's just I mean, we've got to when somebody reaches such heights.

Mortal, mere mortals, mere mortals.

I don't miss it over have no you're digging deep.

I mean, that's you're talking like early 2000s on that.

Yeah, I know we've all done things in early 2000s.

We weren't proud of.

But that's just is what it is.

That's what I mean.

Here's what's going to happen.

You're going to in the next few years, you're going to decide that like you want

that thirty two five window coupe.

You know, I wanted one and you're like, you know, man,

Eric Black is the guy to render it.

What the fuck do you think Eric Black is going to say when you call him about that?

I know what he's going to tell me.

Yeah, fuck you.

He's going to say get fucked.

I think that's the answer, dude.

It's going to go.

It's going to be one of those automated emails if he's out of town ranching.

I'm out on my ranch.

I'll get back to you at my earliest convenience, which is never.

This is what friends do.

Like they bust people, but bust each other's balls.

This is like this is that's the type of relationship me and Eric have.

OK, he's from Wyoming.

You know that he's tough.

Allegedly, allegedly, we don't know for sure.

But what what what else is happening at Cal Auto?

What else you guys got shaking?

And that is obviously a huge lift.

That's going to be a monumental build.

But what do you guys have a big one?

What do you guys got going on right now?

Eric and I got another little project going on that would not quite read it

on bail yet, but it's really cool.

You guys are heavily involved in that one.

Yeah, that's the top, top, top secret.

When will that one around about be?

We're sorting through some stuff right now with Mark Boller on the drive train.

And as soon as we get some anthra's there, we'll have a better idea.

I'd say later this year, there'll be some stuff released.

OK.

Did you guys talk through the stuff we're working on drive train wise?

That's a sort of.

I did not know that's.

Yeah, we'll have to chat about that.

Some interesting stuff happening in the gear changing world.

Sure.

These days and Mark's part of all that too.

So sure.

And yeah, sure that we got about a dozen, a dozen cars going together.

Thirteen builds right now.

Yeah, well, yeah, we're doing a lot of Josh Kilby down at Georgia.

Huge Bulldogs fans.

We give him a lot of shit and they didn't make it neither.

So I left you alone.

I figured that's you can give it to me.

It's over with.

I give myself 24 hours.

Did they also beat Alabama this year?

Yes, they did.

But we shared.

We beat them.

They beat us.

But which one counted more?

The first one was like more unexpected.

The SEC championship hurt more.

One of them was in a championship game.

It doesn't matter.

They've had what's been 10 and one.

We've had Kirby's number for fucking a decade.

But you're right, they won the last one, the last match that we met.

They won the match now.

Yeah.

But they didn't go to the playoffs either.

No, you know, he's in the playoffs right now.

And Phil, I'm going to.

This is going to be the first six hour podcast we ever do.

This feels counting down.

Phil has.

Phil has never in the history that I've known him said.

I he might have said after the fact, oh, I caught some of this game,

but he's never said, I'm going to watch this game ever.

I've known each other close to 20 years,

given me shit on road tours, on shows.

Oh, you got to get home.

You got to get back to the room and watch Alabama.

See, the difference is I presented it with the facts up front.

Yes.

Instead of misleading misdirection.

I just got to say we got to get back to that.

Yeah, we got to get back to that 230 flights.

Stupid. We need to get out of here by 8 a.m.

Everybody's got to reschedule their flights, like just because.

So Indiana, you know, whatever it's, it's, you know,

your mercury in retrograde or whatever has happened

that the stars have aligned that a basketball school,

you know, figured out an engineer and oval ball and throw it.

I don't have good engineering.

Nick Saban will take the credit for Kurt Zignetti and that tree.

I mean, you know what?

I hope Indiana wins because Indiana winning is an Alabama win.

They're going to win.

So there's nobody they can even hang with them.

The semifinals all had most of from Saban.

Oh, yeah, I mean, oh, yeah.

That whole that whole thing.

No, we can't.

But I like, I think that he's better than Cristobal.

Yeah. So anyway, so it feels like, oh, you know, hey, we're going to this podcast.

But, you know, like the national championships tonight.

I was like, oh, that in national championship and what what sport college football.

Oh, that's so that's something you're into now.

All of a sudden, hey, I'm jumping on the bandwagon.

You need to. That's his school, though.

So how I know he went there.

Interestingly enough, you know, like 35 years before happens again, you better catch it.

It's the first time I've ever said it, because it's the first time it's ever happened.

I watched about seven minutes of football yesterday.

I don't know. Yeah.

So there I am watching Landman, right?

And just enjoying myself and Vinny tax me.

He's at a bar somewhere in.

He's not a Bear Jackson right now.

Turn on the football game.

You got to watch your boys, your teams going into overtime.

I'm like, yeah, dude, I like number one, I don't watch football.

Number two, I don't even think I have like the football channel,

whatever channel that may be in.

Basically, OK.

Yes, I mean, it's not a Netflix or prime, right?

So against my better judgment, I'm like, all right.

What the fuck? Let's watch this, right?

So I just flip over to the Xfinity, which I never go to the Xfinity.

And I just click on the mic.

There's a mic option.

And I said, football game, right?

And it instantly picked up the game, right?

So it's in overtime, starting in overtime.

I'm like, OK, this is exciting to watch.

And I watched like a few minutes of them just getting their asses fucking whooped.

And then it pissed me off.

So I'm like, dude, I don't watch football.

I have no interest in it.

But you took me away from watching Landman, which is a great show,

to get disappointed in seeing this team fail miserably in the tail end of this game.

Like the dude just drew the fucking football at the other team.

That was that wasn't Caleb Williams fault, though.

You that was DJ Morris fault.

He just gave up. You might have been the jinx.

You might have been the problem. It probably was.

We were doing great.

You didn't watch a minute all year.

I will say I was a minute in the decade.

Phil Phil is a is a is a pretty good sports fan because he's sportsman.

Yeah, I know, but Phil's a pretty good sports fan when it comes to there's not

like any major like.

He's not Phil's not wearing any sports attire, right?

I don't need it when we're around.

We don't know what happens in the fines of his.

But he's but Phil Phil shorts and the hoodie for basketball.

Phil is conversationally aware of major

sporting events that are going on enough like again,

conversationally aware of stuff is going on.

Vinny is probably the best sports fan, right?

He's the type of sports fan we all should be.

He just keeps any deal Vinny only Vinny likes the Saints, right?

Vinny's a Saints fan referred to as football, Americano.

Vinny knows enough to enough about all different type of sporting events

that only he only watches the most important games, right?

Playoff games, whatever, even when we're ever around.

It's like so and so, so and so is the championship game.

If they lose, they're out.

We're going to watch this.

No dog in the hunt, nothing to do with thing.

It's just like this.

There's a lot on the line.

This is going to be an exciting game.

Let's watch this.

He's from a guy that.

You knew more sports five years ago than Vinny did.

Really? Oh, yeah.

He doesn't seem like a sports fan to me.

He's a big, he's a big time sports fan.

He and he's the proper sports fan because there's not.

He's just there for the good time.

Short of the Saints, there's nobody

because he he's happy if Alabama wins

and he's just as happy if Alabama loses to give everybody else shit.

But he just likes the it's it's an interesting way of life to just enjoy

like the only playoff games only, you know, only games that matter.

It does suck to live and die when your team does bad,

especially if you're a Nebraska fan. Oh, don't go there.

I thought we're not talking about that.

My my role roles Indiana basketball and Nebraska football.

We got something there.

Yeah, basketball school.

Yep. Alabama's good at basketball this year.

Are they? They were good last year.

Final four, baby.

Yeah.

Anyway, this is a little bit of a derail.

But we knew we were going to go there.

Yeah.

But we got to something to talk about.

We got Ted's we're going six hours tonight.

I will not be happy until I get a text of who won the National Championship

while we're still doing this podcast and ruin it for Phil.

Oh, my God, they did what?

Holy shit, you're not going to believe what happened.

I'm just going to walk out on your phone.

Where the fuck were we recently that you were watching the Alabama game?

Like a complete asshole.

We're at like a dinner event or something and you're on your phone.

You're going to have to be more specific.

This was really done that a lot.

Trying to think of where the fuck we were.

It's probably somebody's wedding.

It was something like that.

It was it was really.

Fuck yeah.

The last wedding we were just at.

The brother of the bride and the bride both went to Indiana.

And that game and the Bears game were on the same night and those TVs were going

in the ceremony on phones and on TVs.

Nobody had a problem with that.

It was just that was just what was happening.

I was it was at a

the last one to the Alabama, Tennessee game.

I was at we're outside of Zach and Robin's house.

Yes.

Yeah.

But everybody was watching that.

I just was watching on my phone.

Everybody else is watching it through the window inside the house.

But I had to hear what was going on.

It was a great game.

Yes.

Sports are an interesting thing like the how you're there for the excitement, though.

Motherfucker, how tell him the World Series.

He was there for the World Series in Vegas and wasn't it doesn't matter if

that would have gone 10 more innings.

He was there.

I've always just been baffled by how it the outbursts are acceptable

in any scenario, only for sports.

Like everybody loves Yellowstone like unanimously.

I think people love Yellowstone, but like when Rip fucking killed some,

dude, you can't be in Ruth's Chris and be like,

yeah, come in and try and stay in there because that's fake.

This is real life.

But anywhere you can be in a Michelin five star restaurant

and like a team scores a touchdown.

Yes.

And there's some dude stands up and it's a specific clap.

It's with the, you know, followed by this.

And then they're fucking yelling and screaming.

Yes.

You see it in the airport, that and the practice golf swing.

Those are the two things that you can do anywhere you want.

The practice golf swing shouldn't be done ever.

You can be in church and some dude just stand up and kind of like, yeah.

And then they just, those are weirdos, though.

Is it?

Those are weirdos or start clapping it up because a team one.

But I mean, but sporting events, specifically college football,

nothing greater than college football, nothing else, nothing else.

Even, even compares when your state doesn't have a professional football team.

Yeah, that's why basketball team.

They don't need one when the college football team would beat any professional team.

I guess I understood.

I'm understanding it more and more as like I've watched a few.

There is the stories like if you are like fully vested,

if you're a fan, right?

And the stories that happened throughout the year or even year to year

from college, I mean, from, from coaches and, you know, coaching tree

and then quarterback and somebody that set the bench and then transferred the stories.

I mean, you can't write.

If you were trying to write a story, you couldn't write it that way.

It's the most unpredictable thing ever.

It's unbelievable.

If I was sitting at a wedding and like John Force just clicked off a track record,

would it be acceptable for me to just stand up and have an outburst

like in the middle of the wedding?

Low E.T. of the night.

Yeah, probably not.

Probably not.

Maybe you should start that.

342 with a one.

I'm telling you, this is this is going a little dark, but this is how much.

This is why I love specific.

I love a lot of sports, but I love specifically college football because.

I could go back and watch an old.

I could find we could talk about VHS.

I could find a Faces of Death video tomorrow and watch that zero emotion.

Yeah. Right.

I could go on the dark web and find a channel dedicated to killing kittens.

Right. No emotion.

I could watch a college game day and they do a story.

You know, they always have those feel good stories or something like that.

Just in tears like a baby.

Yeah.

Joe, you're like, what, huh?

What fucking allergies is, you know,

how the time of the year in the fall when the college football comes on,

the allergies go, it's Lee Corso's last week crying like a baby.

So you're telling me that guy's been to a hundred and one games

and now his son's got cancer and they flew him to be at that game balling,

balling like a baby, but that's the only type of emotion.

That's the stories that they will put on that.

You're like nothing else in the world.

Nothing else.

They don't have stories like that.

The life doesn't exist anywhere else like it does in college football.

Taylor Sheridan could even write a script like no,

there's no way he could write a multifaceted.

I mean, it's literally it's unbelievable.

School upon school, the dude that paints his head at Georgia, right?

There's guy in Ohio State, too, that does that shit.

And it's it was his granddad that was doing it and now it's been passed down to him.

And it's just it's it's it's unlike anything else.

It's unlike anything else.

It's changed.

I will say a lot.

It's changed the last four, four or five years, four years, three years.

Transfer portal and NIL is

made into something different, but it's just unlike anything.

When you we talk about when you were talking about relating to our industry,

right, the work ethic, right, and skill level stuff, bringing it home here.

If if you're if you're a fan, if you're a fan,

pre NIL

and in pre transfer portal.

That was work ethic times 10 in

D1 college football.

Those were the times we used to text about it, too.

You could watch a game on Saturday, right, and watch guys that will be playing next

year at the NFL, do things times 10 that anybody in the NFL will do.

Times 10, because they had no choice.

Passion, they're laying it all online.

It's passion, right?

And then you watch Sunday, the very next day, you're watching kids that played that

same game that you watched them the year before.

And no, I mean, no fault to them.

They've got their they've got their money, right?

They've got their contract.

They've got their thing, right?

But it's it's different like now you're employed.

You've got a five year contract.

You're making your money.

You're building your life.

You're doing your thing. Now you've kind of gotten your.

I hate to say anybody's I've never played fucking NFL, right?

So I'm not trying to like very seriously know that.

But you're not putting it all on the line.

One of his many jobs was not in the NFL.

I did not do that.

That was one of the ones I didn't do.

But yeah, it's it's hard to say.

I mean, it's hard.

I'm not giving somebody shit that played fucking pro ball, but it's different.

But everybody else is different, too.

Everybody else knows what they're supposed to be.

So maybe it makes you look better.

You know, worse, sorry, not better.

Yeah, worse, because everybody else is so good and the college was not at that level.

Yeah, maybe.

I mean, everybody get paid money, you know,

so you have to be at the top of your game just because you look worse now.

It doesn't mean that your game is any different.

Everybody else just got better.

Oh, I'm not saying skill skill is yeah, you're taking.

Well, I mean, you're taking one percent of the one percent one percent.

You're getting at the effort.

But that's the effort.

There's a there's times where you'll see somebody in that failure.

Like, holy shit, they just laid out for that.

And it's it's more of a rare occurrence, right?

And it's a that's when that will comes in.

Like, we got to win this fucking game in college football.

You see stuff all the time.

You're like, where the fuck did he come from?

Like, and he's you see if he breaks his neck,

he breaks his neck and he ever plays again.

Exactly. But if he knocks that dude out, right?

That's that that's one inch closer to come up in the draft or whatever it is.

Like, he's laying it all on the line.

So that's the last play from the A&M Miami game.

Yes, that touchdown saving tackle.

Damn, they killed himself.

But they didn't get all on the line.

All of that. And that's it's just something.

I mean, again, we've gone off the rails.

But it's the one thing I related to the Jordan era, like everything.

It was just him. It was to win. It was so pure.

You know, it wasn't like money driven or ego driven.

He didn't want to lose.

Wanted to win. Did not want to lose.

So he ruined sports when he left because it's changed so much now that he don't.

So you don't think that LeBron's really hurt that many times?

Then he flops on the ground.

No, you don't think he has the same winning ethics as Jordan did?

I don't.

That's interesting. You say that.

That's honestly why I'm probably the biggest Jordan fan in the history.

That's not a sports fan just because of his work ethic.

You know, his work ethic and just desire to win in the way he like composed himself.

Oh, you know.

Yeah, I mean, it was also pretty cool seeing him.

Do you see him just totally smoke?

Was it NBC that he just took him for like 80 mil?

Do you see that? No, you haven't seen all these.

Oh, yeah, they said they said they were going to he was.

Everybody thought he was going to be like a commentator, right?

When they released that that he was like, do you really think Jordan was going

to be commentating like fucking ball games?

He gave him one interview, 80 million dollars.

The contract was like sort of supposed to be loosely structured for him to be a

commentator. Look at it.

It's all over.

I haven't seen that.

A single interview, 80 million dollars.

It's a good interview.

It's good negotiator.

Is that the one he did with Mike Turico recently?

That was actually a really, really good interview.

Just spoke to him.

Didn't know you got to watch it.

It's very motivational on

his mindset and where he came from and why he was doing things and how it's changed.

Right. He just sums it up so simply like fuck that just it connects.

Right. Right.

We'll look that up tonight.

Well, I guess how did we get here from it?

We went from what's cool.

What cool is going on in the shop?

Playing it all in the line like we're doing with.

We can edit all that out of the team on your back.

So they put the team put the team on your back.

There's not there's not a new listener.

There's not a new listener coming on right now.

They know what they signed up for.

As soon as they hit play, it's the

where you never know what's this going.

Never know what's going.

That's just that is what it is.

Not going to fucking change it.

You're Eric, who works for you guys.

I followed his little road tour he did with his model.

Isn't that guy wild?

He's great. That is so bad.

I want him to come up here.

Seeing what he's got, like all his

worldly possessions strapped to the roof of the modeling.

Have you seen how many miles did he put on the thing?

He tries that thing.

He took that and it looks badass.

It's a cool ass hot rod.

He took that thing to Bonneville and back and then did some work to it

and loaded it up, went all the way to Jersey.

Yeah, to Jersey for the race of gentlemen.

Yeah. And then cannonballed that thing

all the way down to Oklahoma for gathering at the rock.

That's cool. He was gone for three weeks in that thing,

camping on the side of a river.

You know, like he doesn't get a hotel room.

That's awesome. Hardly ever.

I mean, he seems like a genuinely pretty cool cat.

Like it's like easy rider.

I was watching this dude's camping.

So he's legit cool.

He is.

Yeah, I got you as opposed to where he will pull over something like a band

and gas station and he he lays his blanket down next to his car and he straps

something to his wrist to his car and then he goes to sleep.

Hell, yeah.

Is he hoping to get dragged or

he's just then he gets up,

fires his car up and makes breakfast on his fucking lake pipe.

That's got to be just super badass.

Like he's die hard.

We have to do a bare bones trip like that.

I don't know if I got it in me.

I don't think you do like that's that's got to be I mean, I'd be fucking awesome.

I'd be exhilarating and like no bullshit.

You're just you hot rod on the road.

And you're three days straight of driving in this open head or supercharged flat

head, just listening to that thing.

There's nothing more raw than that.

It's pretty crazy.

What do burnt eggs look like on a header?

I don't know.

You only do that once.

You don't burn on the next time.

You just cooked eggs.

Did he fabricate something that like saddles the pipe or he just laid it right on it.

Wedges it down in there in between the two.

Two of them throws a truck stop burrito on there.

That'd be that's cool.

He's a cool dude.

I ain't got many more years left.

I got to do it. I got to do a bare bones trip.

Yeah, like that.

I want to do it.

We talk choppers.

We talk for years, me and Chad back when we were young.

We always talk we're going to build some old school hot rods and like drive them

out to Salt Flats and that never happened.

And we had kids and shit goes by fast, man.

I don't know. I don't know if you could do it.

I think you're a little soft.

I'm not.

I'll tell you what, I'm a little too,

you know, I don't want to say uppity, but I don't know.

I've stayed in too many hotels maybe in my life to be sleeping on the side of the

road in a Mexican blanket and cooking on my headers.

I'd like to say I could where's my exfoliating cream and where's that far?

No, but like, you know, a nice mattress.

Go a long way.

We'll just take the right bed roll and be good.

Yeah, you know, he does stop every year on the way to Bonneville at one hotel.

And it's one of the ones that Ted Bundy, I guess, stayed at.

And like the lady knows him now.

She like gives me just like whatever specific room.

Ted Bundy's room.

I have her room.

I don't know if he got caught there.

I don't know. I don't know much about the story of Ted Bundy.

But yeah, it was for some reason.

This is some iconic Ted Bundy.

He's into some weird things.

Oh, no, he's just die hard.

Is he single?

Actually, he's got a woman now.

Really?

We've got to get him on here sometime.

Yeah, I mean, he's been around the industry for a long time.

He's a wicked, talented guy.

Be cool.

Yeah, he's one of our one of our main go-tos.

He's a long time, right?

He's my first employee.

You've taken you took off last year.

You talk about restructuring back in the shop.

What's the first event you're going to be back at?

We're figuring that out right now, but we're going to come out this year.

Probably going to end up having about six cars at SEMA.

So that's a we got some stuff cooking more than five.

That's more than five.

That's a lot.

We did four or three years ago, so we figured.

Yeah, why not?

Let's put a little more stress on this.

But now we're finishing in a 64 in power for Joel that was here today.

Are all those potential competitors?

No.

Just really fun, nice cars.

Oh, I meant like.

Are they all on Roadster Shop chassis?

Damn, yes, all but one of them tried to make it as simple as possible.

Yes, all but one of them.

All right, so I like both levels of subtlety there.

Yes, well, that's super subtle.

Yeah, so much.

I only have two ways.

There's one that's on an elite chassis, so that's really cool.

Sweet.

That's for Josh Kilby, the bulldog guy.

Oh, yeah, we're doing nine trifibes for him.

Nine of them.

I find trifibes.

He's into trifibes.

So we're doing a post, a hard top and convertible of each year.

It's cool.

You should have done it last year because we're not doing the party this year.

No.

We missed last year.

I heard that was a good time last year is as big as it's gotten.

It's a new venue that we found that worked out pretty good.

It was a nice, nice space.

Yeah, you think that's probably the best being you're being a little modest there.

It was a great space.

Yeah, pretty cool.

Yeah, we'll have some stuff.

Don't you worry.

Oh, I'm not worried.

I'm not worried.

It's common.

Yeah, you secured spaces for all this stuff.

We're working on it right now.

Yeah, one secured.

I mean, I do know that you're way ahead of the game.

We got three wife over there.

So she's with she's handling that, but I think it's time she gets on.

Yeah, we're going to we're going to take a real quick.

I think before he leaves, I just one question.

What it's like having to manage Andy on a daily basis.

You know, it has its it has a rough day.

Sometimes he's he's good, but you got to kind of focus him sometimes.

You got to keep him back in line.

Like, you can't manage an artist.

Not fucking around.

But sometimes sometimes he's going to be like, hey, let's pull the rain a little.

Maybe it doesn't work.

I've considered the same scenario that you're in.

I've never been happier.

I just worry I've been out of it like a little too long at this point to be like

to dive right back in and like sort of walk away from everything else.

Just having apprentice and have him sharpen the tungsten and you be good to go.

You'll be good to go.

But it's I mean, it's kind of the dream, I think, really.

Honestly, like the business side of it's all off of me and I'm good with it.

And just go back to what we all grew up doing and the only reason you got into it

in the first place was to do that.

That's what puts you on the Mexican fisherman story.

Yes, that one.

Yes.

Yep.

That's the absolutely 100 percent.

We should find that meme or whatever that lays that out scenario.

No, they can fucking find it.

If you listen, that's your homework, Google it.

Google the Mexican Fisherman story.

It's the perfect story.

It's people on vacation.

They're asking the next fisherman, Bob.

It's a great story.

It really is.

It sums up every bit of this industry.

The success is in phase.

We're going to take a piss break.

That's what we've called it in 2026.

I like how you're changing the way you're taking constructive criticism because

I'm real cool.

I'm not fake cool.

Yeah, right.

Eric Black's not taking potty breaks.

No, I can't do that.

Well, we've we have as you can see, now we have the chaperone here.

That's right.

It's hi.

I'm Anali.

Welcome.

That's Andy's auntie's wife.

She runs the entire operation.

Right.

The brains of the operation.

So we've killed a bottle.

We're not sure what's going to be said, but bottles been autographed.

Well, Matt needs to still.

Yeah, Matt's got an autograph.

Matt, we'll trade you for that other full one.

He's over there stretching, getting ready for what you guys did last time.

Well, glad to have you.

Yes, thank you.

This is a I'm sure you get to watch

Andy's previous episode and so this one you're like, all right, now I'm coming on

because well, I told him it might not be a good idea for me to be on the stuff I

say around these guys should not be recorded.

That's what I'm hoping.

But that's what I'm hoping for.

So here I am.

We're generally the ones that are getting censored.

So this is going to be quite the turning of the tables.

How does the dynamic work?

I'm always curious when you're like a husband and wife dynamic in business.

You guys, is that generally work pretty good?

Well, we used to.

So I sell real estate quite a bit, a couple of million every year.

And so it used to be that's your business.

This is my business.

We'd come together and bounce ideas off each other.

Business ideas, you know, venting clients.

I would tell him a lot about clients at the same time, like client relations and

managing because he's not like he's really good on camera.

And we've all talked about this is the

like on camera and in news interviews and all this stuff.

He's excellent, but like in person, like, you know, kind of awkward, can't hold the

conversation. The client will ask a question and he'll just go on the other

direction. He's thinking about it.

That's right. He's a car guy, like so and an artist.

You know, we always say he's an artist, but

so I'd be like, well, it sounds like your client's really asking for this or we'd

go to dinner with the clients and I would help keep him on the right conversation

of what they're when, you know, we're

courting a new client or whatever.

But then last year.

Can you give us an example of one of these?

I've got some kind of bouncing around.

Oh, boy.

Do you have an example?

So what color would you pay the car?

I mean, color is just such a state of mind.

It's a fluid.

That's what I'm thinking.

And has anybody ever brought up the fact that how close, artistic and autistic

sound, there's, there's, there's a line that he probably did.

I just, it just dawned on me that I was going back to your question this year.

I started just like taking over.

I jumped in with just how to streamline everything because you can't make money

in hot rods. There's not a huge in profit.

So like when you make a mistake, it really hurts your business.

And he's stressed out running the business like he's very good businessman.

He's got the knowledge, but he just isn't.

It's not his skill and he doesn't like doing it.

And I do thrive like I love contracts.

I thought about becoming a lawyer just to say I am one.

Oh, she's such a bitch.

She is a lawyer.

And like this is a fake injury.

You know, if Kim Kardashian can do it, anybody can do it.

So I don't hold my pinky up when I drink.

She just, she's just your middle finger.

It's a fake handicap.

I used to justify that here.

You know, that's how we do it.

I'm sorry, it's just it's broken.

Well, it sounds like it's the perfect dynamic.

It's sort of like the dream team, you know?

I mean, everything I applaud you for putting yourself in the position where

you thrive, you know, to have the, I don't know,

like, probably not foresight because you were in the other position to sort of see

that maybe it wasn't the right position for you, but to be able to step back and

take balls into that, it does take balls because it's like maybe there's like

an ego portion of like, I'm just the guy that's running the whole fucking show.

Right.

First, like I'm going to do what I'm really good at.

It was something that was in my head for a while and she really pushed it.

And even when I hired Rick, you know, it was like.

I got to get somebody in here to control some of the stuff.

I just I'm spread too thin.

I can't do it all.

So he complained about just the employees asking them questions.

Well, of course, they have to ask them questions because they don't want to do it

wrong, you know? And so Rick was our friend for 10 years, probably before our best friend.

And he was over all the time.

I'm like, who can tell the guys to fuck off?

So I do bleep this stuff.

We can't.

No, they don't.

If we can do with a smile and they would take it.

It's like, oh, Rick's perfect for that.

So he essentially harasses the guys and keeps them alive.

And that was a fine line, too, that we were afraid to go down.

I mean, he's one of my best friends.

And here we're going to be working.

He's going to be working for me.

I mean, that's a fine line to walk.

But yeah, you know, but they're a great team.

We do separate. I mean, it's it's definitely.

No, it's so great.

Well, and Rick was a he owned his own business.

It really is.

So he understands the business side, too.

So it's not like you're hiring a friend to help you make money.

You know, it's like, I need to have a lot of.

Hands on experience building cars beforehand.

Well, I've done in my whole life.

My grandfather had a car.

He'd repair cars all the time and stuff like that.

We had a garage bay with like three or four cars when I was younger.

My uncle worked on cars.

We were built cars all the time when I was younger.

And I've always I'd like speed.

So I've always had my hands in car motors and stuff like that.

Yeah, so that's a good.

Delegated to Rick to manage the guys.

And then he just needed more help with like.

And then I as soon as I'm like, OK, I'm taking over like we're doing things.

We got a bookkeeper, like crazy thing that you would think.

But Andy likes to overlook every invoice to be sure the guys aren't doing

too many hours on something, you know, because like you do need to supervise

because employees don't see the bottom line like we do.

And they don't see the client's reaction to the invoices.

And, you know, a five hour project, they could spend 15, 20 hours on.

And we can't charge them for that.

So he has to see it.

But the bookkeeper puts it together and then he approves it.

It's like, look how many hours.

And that's something he thought he didn't he couldn't let go of.

You know, I have to be there.

Answer questions.

No, tell Rick what you want and Matt what you want.

And Matt has the eye of quality.

And he was a 17 year old push, you know, broom pusher when he started.

So you're 24 year old push around in the shop.

Thirty thirty.

Look at what this shop will do to you.

I'm just kidding.

But yeah, so he's learning, you know, and kudos to Andy to be OK with delegating.

But it's a hard thing to let go.

And I drug him to Hawaii one time and he's learned that's fun.

Well, she basically said, I'm getting a ticket.

I'm going with or without.

I'm like, well, get me one.

He was scared. Yeah.

That's a tough, tough thing to do.

Like, you know, times have changed, but in the early years of our business,

Phil, Phil and I were both that it was like impossible.

Can't be going to bring yourself to leave.

Right. You just couldn't do it, you know. Right.

And it really took like just force and to just say, fuck it.

Right. Because you have to.

And you got to get away from it.

You get away from it.

Somebody's going to catch the brunt or die.

Because you're not doing it like everybody has to have.

Right. It's not probably healthy for me or the people around me.

If that's just all you do.

Right. Everybody's got to do it.

But it is. I mean, there's people listening that are, you know,

two years into business, six years in business, you know,

you had to get to the point where you said it's we're doing it.

Right. If somebody would, if you go back in time and tell yourselves

three years into the business, this is what you need to be doing now.

It'd been it'd been tough to listen to. Right. Right.

Well, and it's good as an entrepreneur, which we both are, you know,

to get in the nitty gritty and learn every aspect of the trade.

And that way, you know, when your employee comes to you, you can see, like,

you know, that guy's really been working hard on that, you know,

like standing underneath the car upside down for 12 hours straight.

You know, it's like you have sympathy and empathy for these people.

You treat them better because you have that.

And our guys are awesome.

Like culture was the word I was mouthing.

Like we have good culture.

Yeah, it's cool. We really do.

Culture is tough to build our shop. And the guys, they're like brothers.

Ricky's self-proclaimed Dr. Phil drama, drama.

Really? I've never, I've honestly, that's, that's funny because I've never heard that

in this industry. Must be, it must only be in your shop.

It's a Nebraska thing.

It's not for everybody because we know these people so good.

Like when they come there in the morning, like you can fly out and see their face

and say, Hey, what's wrong?

Because if they're going to be like that the entire day, they're not going to get

anything done. This is a little inside baseball.

This is something they don't teach it. Roger's business class, right?

This is straight up.

This is inside. I'm going to give you this.

If anybody's listening, stop what you're doing right now and just pay attention.

Go ahead. And somebody's going to get offended.

Multiple people are going to get offended because they do this,

but they're going to stop doing it after they hear this.

When you go into it saying that it's got to be extra bad.

Pointed at you. I don't think so.

No, no, no, this is sound like this one's coming at me.

This is this is business advice for every shop owner, every shop manager.

Everybody that's out there that's dealing with employees.

And this is a little bit of a wake, wake up call for the people that are doing

this said thing. If anybody says, Hey, I'm sorry.

I'm having a tough time, you know, it's home stuff.

If they say my lady, they say my lady, right?

That's a red fucking flag right there.

If they said my lady says this, my lady does this, my lady doesn't like this.

It's a problem, right?

You can keep you quiet if you want to, but you know it's a fucking problem.

Yeah. Well, because if you would have said that my wife or my girlfriend told me,

it's a different because it's when you when you put it in that, when you use that,

when they're using that terminology, it's a certain it's a sign.

You're the first person I ever heard say that, though.

My lady, nobody from at least really, if you haven't had any.

OK, it's always my girlfriend or my wife.

Good job. Right.

Because if it's my girlfriend or my wife, that's normal.

It's normal for the lady that beats me at home.

That's a non issue.

But that was late.

If they say my girlfriend or my wife, it's a non issue.

Yeah. When you refer to it, I'm with you.

I'm tracking with you. I'm trying not to.

I know you're not really hammered out, but it's just there's people out there

that under that are listening right now.

They're like, oh, shit, that's me.

Or there's other people are like, yeah, you're right.

I've heard that.

And that's that's a telltale sign that I think that does that the tables are flipped.

We need to re flip the tables. Got it.

Right. Oh, I've always just now, please change the subject.

Yeah. No, I've always had great great advice.

You know, my dad gave me this advice early on that it's just whatever happens

at home, leave it at the fucking door that nothing at home.

Do not carry it in. There's no reason for it to 20 years ago.

Yes, not no more.

It's a completely different world now.

Well, taking stuff home as an entrepreneur, you can't like I take it all home.

I take it all home.

Don't bring it back.

And then his lady has to deal with it.

My wife has to deal with my shit.

Notice what Rick was saying.

It's exactly what I said earlier, who can keep the shop in line

and the guys like it.

He actually does care.

He's a softy, even though you have to.

My goal is to get him to start a fight.

He has to finish.

He's a black belt.

So I'm waiting for some sucker at some bar to be just needing his ass kicked.

And I'm going to start a fight.

Life. She talk a lot more shit when you're around.

Yes, she does. She talks it all the time.

But anyways, but that's what he says.

He sees a guy walk in.

He generally cares about the guy, like what's going on.

He hears the drama of the crazy girlfriend.

And then the guy feels good.

He got off his chest and now he's going to work better.

So numbers are up.

He's not going to sit there and mope around all day long.

He's often cared about your employees.

Yeah, I get it. You just tell him, go home, slap the shit out of her.

She won't do that shit no more. That's the best advice.

It's advice. It's advice.

I couldn't say it straight. I couldn't say it in a straight face.

It isn't. Yeah.

But it's I mean, I'm with you.

There's a there's an element of that where it's guys do bring it.

The humanity is there's even more stuff within the shop

that you got to sort of help, you know, help guys navigate.

But I I've just been that that was advice.

I was given at an early age and I sort of applied it, you know, and I continue to apply it.

But I mean, you're right.

Like there's there's the there's a generational thing of like that is the way it was.

Like we've all been through shit, like and been dealing with shit and come in.

The best therapy there ever is ever was and ever still is is

just bury yourself in the fucking work, right?

Bottle it up deep inside.

Don't deal with it. Fucking work, right?

That's that's what you might disagree with.

Yeah, that's definitely not.

Yeah, I know, but modern day therapists are the why we are where we are right now, right?

So it's fucking this is the wrong way of thinking.

Just if what, you know, what don't kill you makes you stronger,

bury it, fucking work, build through it.

But that's not anyone needing mental health.

This is horrible advice. Don't follow that.

No, this is this is the this is the best advice, right?

Very until it explodes like fucking just deep as you like a volcano upon everybody.

Yeah, but we probably the worst advice.

I think we need a disclaimer at the beginning of this episode.

Put the hashtag, whatever, to call this is a podcast.

They didn't pay nothing for it.

It'll run. There's no refunds, right?

It's fucking free.

How did most of the jackasses start with like the skull and crossbones?

Like, yeah, that was the MTV's thing.

Yeah, they didn't want to get lost on the show or not.

But it's it is you have to deal like in there.

Sometimes just just a conversation with somebody, you know,

it does like, OK, you're hearing me, blah, blah.

It's also frustrating the other side.

You're like, oh, fuck, I've dealt with this exact same thing.

And I handled it completely differently than you.

Like just like, OK, she's pissed.

Guess what?

They're going to be pissed about something great.

You said your dad gave you that advice.

Greatest advice I got from my father-in-law before getting married was

they're going to bitch about something, right?

Quit trying to fix it.

If it's not this, it'll be the next thing.

So just learn to deal with they're going to be upset about stuff.

Try your best.

But if your mission is to make peace and happiness all the time and fix it,

it ain't going to fucking happen.

So just like it's just going to happen.

Well, it's the same as when you want to tell somebody how to do something

or they did it wrong.

Everybody has a different way of learning rather than, hey, you fuck this up.

Yes, you don't say that to some people.

Some people say, hey, how about trying it this way different?

Because if not, they're going to be butthurt all day about it.

And you learn what kind of people that you deal with.

Yeah. And everybody has different modes, different moods

and everything that all day long or whatever.

So I can see.

I can see why you did this this way.

Exactly. Let's try it this way.

Let's see this rather guys.

He'll tell him if you do it wrong again,

I'm going to rape you.

I do not ever say that.

You're telling me I got to be censored.

You weren't at lunch today.

That's the.

Yeah, this is mild.

It's not called rape if they're willing.

If they're willing, I can't rape the will.

And some of them say they're willing like the culture is fine.

Interesting.

Oh, that's the first word.

I think that's the first time that word's ever been used on this podcast.

Oh, there we go.

It's you might need to believe that I think I don't have a problem with it.

And I'm not the one that said it.

Yes, it's a unique.

It's it's always.

What's your average age of employee?

Oh, because they're really.

We got a couple.

Yeah, two sets.

Yeah, young or old.

Oh, yeah.

So we kind of got we kind of it's all the way through one or two 60.

How old is the oldest?

Yeah, one guy is amazing.

A machinist.

He used to work for Harley.

Yeah, Earl, Earl have a problem with his lady.

I promise you that.

No, he doesn't.

No, don't get old lady.

Earl's a really good guy.

Yeah, yeah.

He got to tell her once he's over.

But yeah, now he's the oldest and then it's my dad.

Right.

Yeah.

So Rick's dad works for us.

He's in my in our machine shop.

He's the one that sends all your parts.

Obviously, Rick's dad is called little Ricky.

So little Ricky.

Yeah, obviously make some really good parts.

Yeah, he knows what he's doing.

Yeah, he's been doing it for 30 years.

He actually used to do train parts.

I worked on trains as well for a while.

And he was the machinist that did all the train parts, the cushioning devices

that when the train smacked together and the couplings hit each other.

There's cushioning devices inside of them that operate like a giant shock.

But he did all the machine work on them.

See everybody listening on your bingo cards at home.

That's that's full size trains.

That's fine.

Yeah, full.

Working in full size trains.

Cool. Right.

Model trains.

Not so cool.

Anything smaller than a full size train.

You're a weirdo.

And we have Evan.

Evan is he does all the modeling and programming.

Our engineer in the machine job.

He was a good hire and Earl didn't like him.

So that was the drama.

Earl hated him because he had long hair and tighter jeans.

Because he had a nose ring and a nose ring.

And so for our Christmas party, we did like, you know, like 50 bucks

to second place, 100 bucks to first place, best sweater.

Well, he said, this is my ugly sweater.

And it was a picture of Earl and Earl loved it.

And now I think Earl likes him a little bit.

It's funny how you think this is, I mean, let's face it.

You it can't get speaking of trains.

It can't get back on the rails, right?

Trains, when they derail, it's off.

They're fully blown, full blown derailed even little train,

like scale trains, model trains.

You can pick those up and put them back on there for this.

We're talking about we're talking about full size trains.

It's D. It's derailed, right?

So speaking of derailed because it's a train wreck.

It's funny how you're at different ages, right?

You know, we always try to over generalize, you know, generations, right?

We're like, oh, this generation does this.

But there's if you want to get more micro instead of so macro, right?

And get different generations are fine or more fine with different things, right?

So Little Rick had a problem with long hair.

No, Earl, Earl, sorry.

Earl had a problem with long hair, tight jeans, nose ring.

So out of those three things, long hair, I'm fine with tight jeans.

I'm fine with the nose ring thing.

That's when it started nose ring on a guy.

I'm like, yeah, it's a little weird, right?

There's other things that I'm more fine with.

There's people you've dealt with, you know, this, we don't wear them anymore.

However, a backwards hat.

There was a generation that could not stand backwards hats.

Guys, we've dealt with it for like, turn your hat around, turn your hat around.

And me, I'm like, doesn't doesn't bother me about.

I don't have a problem with backwards hat.

There's so many weird little things that just like rub you the wrong way.

Like a face tattoo, not something I do.

It doesn't really bother me that much as a as more of a face piercing.

Like a face piercing bothers me more than a face tattoo.

Do you tell Lindsay that?

Oh, and women is different.

Okay. Yeah.

A nose ring on a woman.

It's it's they adorn their cells with all kinds of, you know,

accoutrements and stuff like that.

I saw a meme this morning that they associated with learning disabilities.

Faced face piercings.

Yeah. Did you tell her that?

No, I don't want to be there when you do.

Not about forwarding it to a tattoo is more permanent, though.

A piercing you can take out is done.

Yeah, I know. But I mean, I think that's maybe where I I.

You should get a little.

Where I'm like, OK, you made the call

to permanently tattoo your face for whatever reason, right?

I mean, it's not the decision I would make, but I judge you less than I judge you.

I don't know. Maybe it's maybe it's a manly versus feminine thing, right?

What guide are you using to determine these things?

My own personal guide.

Yeah, just inside what's inside me.

I'm not going to take that.

I believe it there.

Was this after the crosswalk in Vegas?

I mean, I couldn't I couldn't get any softer of a pitch, right?

No, it's just I mean, maybe it's a it's a completely on

on a man with a nose or lip piercing is a it's a it's a it's a statement

more so to me than a face tattoo.

You don't see it that much anymore.

I mean, maybe like the septum.

Yeah, piercing you see, but it's a little bovine, like the nose.

I think just the styles changed, like, you know, maybe it was a little punk rock

at some point to have, like, it was a lot. Yeah, it's kind of gone.

Well, everyone's a character on this earth, right?

And it's you identify yourself.

Yeah, you got to paint yourself up.

He's kind of like punk rock.

He has a picture of his braids.

He had two braids that went probably down to his belt.

I got a picture of that shit.

It's amazing.

Look like lead singer corn.

We are going back to it.

Like Eric Black probably has rendered himself to I think we all have.

And maybe the jealousy behind that is that he did a better job than.

Yes. Yes.

He's he's he's adorned himself with with better shells and shiny objects.

Cat Williams.

He came out and he's dressed very similar to and I was like,

I wish I could pull that off. Get me.

So Cat Williams went off the other day on a little, a little stand up.

I don't see you dress as Cat Williams.

Wouldn't that be amazing?

We are all eight inches.

All we are is just breaks on the wall.

No, we're just talking primates.

We are just we are just talking primates that do everything like primates do.

We're all we are is talking monkeys.

We do the same exact shit.

Look at his lip over there.

It's it's the truth.

You adorn yourself and find your tribe and identify with who you want to

identify and and you know, put the feather in your in your hat that says,

I'm I do this and I like this.

And this is the type of thing that we all every that's what that's what humanity is.

That's why people drive certain cars.

That's why people put the stupid fucking stickers that look at all these

nineteen fucking kids and the twenty fucking sports that they play.

And I've also got this cat and this dog.

I want to tell you about my life.

Maybe we can connect at the fucking Walmart parking lot.

It's interesting. That's just what it's conference on thing.

Everybody wants to be in a conference zone.

Yeah, groups tribe.

It's tribal.

There you were just talking primates.

What is what tribe is the raptor thing?

Is this when you're selecting a vehicle?

It's more of like if you see if you see you see if you look at primates

and you look at more like that's silverback gorilla.

Yeah, that's that's you don't fuck with those guys.

Right. That's the that's the tip of that.

That's the tip of the spear on the primate scale.

Chimp out more than others.

Yeah. So there's a lot of guys you shouldn't fuck with them.

Is what you're getting.

Because there's a shit ton of those out there.

Are these the raptor or the raptor are guys?

I'm just going raptor raptor.

That's that's that's Planet of the Apes.

That's a that's full blown silverback gorilla that's utilized

his opposable thumb and it can fire weapons.

Raptor is a tip of the spear.

I don't have a raptor. You're right.

So you have the three point five.

I got it. It's a it's a high horseback.

It's a twin turbo. I got a twin turbo.

Six cylinder six banger.

It's twin. It's like a Honda.

It's twin turbo. So yeah.

It's power is off road.

Baja.

What primate would I be?

I drive a nine eleven. Oh.

And it's a manual gearbox.

That's just kind of bad.

It's an electronic suspension system.

She's got a Porsche. Yeah.

It's the largest. I love it.

That would be.

And I'm trying to think.

A sugar glider.

That'd be so cool.

Like a fucking cheater or something cool.

No, we're primates.

Monkeys only.

Yeah, monkeys not fucking driving.

We're all monkeys.

Yeah. You got to stay in the monkey world.

We're just looking at if we're just looking

at the jungle as a whole.

That's something a little more exotic.

Well, how are monkeys get the most attention

and they're not very big?

What's one to have?

Self identify as a hyper monkey.

You want to go watch the football game?

Yeah, I'm not familiar with it.

What's the ones that have the red asses

and make all the noise?

Everybody look at me.

I could be a babbo.

They'll rip your face off.

I know.

They've eaten babies.

But anyways, the business couple thing is pretty awesome.

Yes, the present.

Our friend John.

You might have wanted that walking across

that street in Vegas.

Jinnotay Loris.

You look like a fisherman.

I thought that logo looked familiar.

What is it?

I don't know what you, you can open it.

Jinnotay Loris.

John from Kerrville.

That's a great name.

Shout out to John.

Jinnotay.

This is off the wall.

Rude rubber lures.

No.

John.

Let's get that back on there.

Let's see if we can get this shot.

If anybody, if any kids.

You didn't see that from.

Any kids are watching.

It's past their bedtime.

Look at that unboxing.

He's going to grab it too.

Oh yeah, he is.

I think my, I think my holes are still there.

I don't know what you're going to catch with anything.

That's a, I think you don't know what I'm going to catch.

Intended species right there.

A big old pussy catfish.

Catch some shells or snails.

That's a, somebody makes these.

Can you stop rolling it in your fingers?

It's just awful.

I don't know.

It's a.

He's never seen one so big.

That's a, that's something.

Yeah.

That's something.

Definitely something.

Y'all going to have,

y'all going to laugh when I catch something.

You're going to regift that, aren't you?

No.

No, that's going up here.

That's, that's going up in here.

Well, thank you for that.

That's it.

Somebody makes those.

Yeah.

I don't know who.

Not us.

A friend of mine sent me that.

And then.

I love the name.

Text messages to go back and forth.

So, you know, I'm going to give this to those guys.

I was a little, a little residue on the bottom of the bottom.

Genitellors.

Be interesting.

I love the name.

Be interesting to see.

Sales are going to go up after this.

Oh, absolutely there.

You know, I think it makes us feel a little more relatable.

Right.

What's that?

What part?

Yeah.

Parts of it.

Which part?

Exactly.

That's for the listeners.

That's the dumbest statement I've ever heard in my life.

Makes us feel more relatable.

That's a, you know what?

This would be good.

Where is that?

Christmas tree decoration.

Christmas tree ornament.

Yeah.

Well, you know where to get more.

I'd take the hook.

Genitellors.

No, that's what you hang it by.

You might have a new sponsor by the time this is over.

A lot of detail there.

That's something.

Tell you what, go ahead and give that thing a gander.

Top and bottom side out.

Josh is intrigued.

I've never been more intrigued than you were with a pack

and heavy.

How many hours of fun did he have with that?

Several.

Yeah.

That was a good time.

Well, this is sometimes what happens on a podcast

with great friends and great customers that have similar.

Interesting taste.

Tastes and humor, you know.

You guys going out to Barrett again?

We are not this year.

You guys going out there?

Yeah, we're heading out on Wednesday.

Wednesday.

Wednesday?

Barrett, and then how about the Roadster Show?

You can be out there.

We'll be out there at the Roadster Show.

Yeah, we're going to get that the following week.

I think you have to, right?

Don't you have to hand the crown over?

Most likely.

We'll see what shows up this year.

That's kind of interesting.

Is it true they carry us the previous winter in on like a throne?

I haven't been told that.

I'm pretty sure that's a thing.

Like the Romans.

Yeah, they carry you in on the throne.

Roadster Show is a shit.

It really is.

It's a great show.

It looks like they're just starting to tease some stuff.

I'm seeing little stuff pop up.

Some people bringing some stuff.

Eddie's Rod Shop's got a banger.

Yep, supposedly.

I've been out of this.

I haven't been on social media in like eight months.

Word on the street is people are bringing some stuff.

I don't know what's coming.

Yeah, honestly.

What have I seen?

Eddie's Rod Shop.

There's a Road Runner.

Zack, Z-Rod's bringing something.

What's his face?

It's South Dakota.

Yeah.

Tyler, yeah.

Revision.

That'll be badass.

Yeah, there's stuff so he's super tight.

Zack, Z-Rod's supposed to be bringing something.

He's bringing banger, supposedly.

Is he really?

Yeah.

That'll be interesting.

Again, like I said, I can't overstate it enough.

Word on the street is people are bringing vehicles

for competition to that show.

You can't understate it.

I don't know.

I haven't heard anything on the AMBR side, though.

That's yeah.

Mike Keller has a pretty badass Roadster.

Ooh, that's Big Creek, right?

He does some cool shit.

I don't want to say it, but E.B. has been involved

in that one heavily.

Oh, E.B.

Hot Rod Garage got something, right?

I thought.

I don't know.

I saw something.

He's got something.

I swear, I saw something pop up that was like a teaser.

Well, if you're listening to this, it's already happened.

And we're behind the scenes.

But that's all right.

We're talking.

Grand National is a great kickoff to the year.

It is.

Great kickoff to the year.

It's a good show.

I like, I've always enjoyed that show even earlier on,

seeing the like the California car culture, you know,

that that was an eye-opener years ago for us going out there

and just seeing the quality of car.

Like every car is good.

Like a drive-in car on Saturday that's parked outside.

Nothing, no disrespect to like, you know, good guys,

but you go to like certain shows.

There's a lot of like there's a lot of cars in the parking lot

that maybe aren't crazy high.

And which is again, they're cool.

Yeah, you go to the like the Roadster show and it's like,

dude, there's, I mean, there's just high-end Roadster

after high-end road.

The stuff is just pristine.

You know, it's just regional, right?

It's the California sort of sort of car culture,

which has always been cool to see.

Detroit's coming up here soon too.

So that's the thing.

You're going to take that opportunity?

You're just putting that out there?

There's some, there's some vehicles.

There's some vehicles coming for Detroit.

What's happening there?

Oh, well, there's some stuff.

There's some stuff coming.

Like I said, I'm out of all this

because I've been on social media.

So what's coming?

You just disconnected?

I did.

Took it off your phone?

Yep.

How does it feel?

It's the greatest thing ever.

Seriously.

For a month, it sucked.

And then once I got past that, it's so calming.

You literally have no social media on your phone?

Nope.

How do you keep open the browser?

My wife does my social media.

Okay.

And, dude, I just live life.

Like I changed everything.

I liked that.

I would love to do it.

So is she opening all the links?

I send you then?

I don't open the messages.

I'll look at them sometimes.

I don't, like, I don't know.

What do you do with all the groupies though?

I mean, that's the only reason everybody gets...

They're all like eight-year-old men, his groupies.

Yeah, that's the only reason we get into this.

It's just for the groupies.

No, it's like, I was done with it.

And it took...

All been done with it.

It took about a month and, you know,

and then I opened it up the other day, honestly.

And I was seriously a minute and I'm like,

I'm so annoyed by it, I just shut it off

and delete it again.

Seriously, try it.

It's actually...

I'd love to be able to do it,

but I don't know how I could live

without being able to send filled videos

of obese women smashing a balance beam

that's AI-generated and commentated.

Like, the AI videos and stuff.

Like I am hooked on the fucking chiropractor videos.

Have you seen it?

The AI chiropractor videos off, I mean,

off the charts, funny.

I could see where you're coming.

I did it, I did the whole week of Thanksgiving.

I shut it down that Monday and I didn't even,

I didn't miss it.

All your burner accounts?

Oh, every single one of them.

Yeah, but you're pretty good at it

with like text messages after, like after five o'clock,

you pretty much just shut the phone off.

I don't shut it down.

I just don't have my phone on me.

He runs out of minutes.

Yeah, you just don't respond on that Android, your minutes.

That's not true.

I always respond.

Now, if it's in a group text,

there's a lot of people responding.

It doesn't require me to respond.

There's never been a time that you've-

You can't, you being in the group text

destroys the entire group text.

Then take me the fuck out.

You're not, you're not in any of them.

I'm good with it.

Except the one, I just recently,

because I felt bad.

I'm like, I don't miss a thing.

None of these group texts

with all these like industry people.

So I'm like, you know what?

I mean, and I'm missing out on the fucking bangers,

words of wisdom that cousin Mikey brings to the fucking table.

To be honest, I'll be honest with you, you are.

I'm not missing out on fucking nothing.

So I put him in one and I send it out

and it just fucks the entire thing up.

The pictures, because the pictures won't go through,

nothing goes through, everything's delayed.

Then it comes through like twice

because your everything was fine on my side.

After 45 minutes of trying to get it through,

that your Android phone destroys the best thing

you can ever do is leave me out every single one of them.

That was the first time I threw you a bone

because honestly, the road tour bros text message chain,

I felt bad because we have a lot of fun on it.

I don't miss social media with you guys.

Is that lobster Bob's?

Yeah.

But there's some really good stuff that gets shared.

Listen to Saxon just suck the life out of Mikey.

Well, I could, yeah.

It's inspiring.

Just screenshot those and send them to me and I'll read them.

There's never been a time that any of you

have texted me that I haven't responded,

even on the weekend, ever.

You've gotten better.

Getting better?

Yeah, you have.

There's never been a time that I haven't.

You used to be like, if a text went through,

you were just gone.

I don't know where you went.

Maybe we could go through.

I was working on a lot of shit.

There's a lot of things that get built around

homeowner Josh Sunday.

Josh Sunday.

Josh gets shit done.

Sunday.

Josh gets shit done.

It'd be be on the roof somewhere.

Cleaning gutters.

I know you're not on the mower anymore.

No.

What another it's another example of why you're not

fucking driving your model across country.

Shut up because I hated doing that.

Fuck, I still I hate it now.

I cut grassford.

Lawn looks better, though.

Fuck off.

No, it doesn't.

Motherfucker can't edge for shit.

Yeah, yeah.

I cut my own grass.

You can't help yourself.

Can you?

For I'm trying to put them up.

I'm trying to put them up so I don't have to see them.

Can't help myself.

Yeah, I want to play with them.

That's about to be another ball.

I cut my own grassford for ever.

And because you like it or you just can't let that go.

I enjoyed it and I couldn't let it go.

And I didn't want to be that guy that paid somebody

to cut the grass.

And about three years ago, finally, my wife was like,

you're spending all day Saturday on this fucking lawn.

You don't ever have any time at home.

And it was just all you know, you're.

Oh, it's going to rain on Saturday.

I'm going to do it on Sunday.

Are you the get off my lawn guy?

I used to be until him and his fucking son decided

that this is my lawn.

This is our motocross track.

Your yard is our motocross track.

How far apart do you guys live?

A little less than a mile.

Maybe.

So you drive a mile to his house to drive on this lawn?

Well, we'll drive because we can take back roads.

So me and my son had ripped through the neighborhood

on like mini bikes, pit bikes and stuff, as you should.

As we should, yeah.

And then the final destination is getting to Josh's house.

And Josh's got a great lawn.

He's on a corner, corner lot, huge lawn,

like with a nice little culvert.

So we'd come because I know he's in the sunroom

usually watching fucking football.

So we'll come and just tear an ass through the lawn.

Me and my son.

Come on.

And you can catch, you can do like a third,

fourth gear pole.

He's got a stretch.

I mean, it's, he's on.

I'm on a couple acres and 1.8 of it is tracked

with fucking dirt bike.

Yeah.

Is it pretty level?

Yeah.

The one's to me.

The backyard's flat.

Well, maybe I'll drive my car up here

and I'll try it myself.

Dude, take the rental.

Take the rental.

I'll give you the address.

I trust me.

I, you don't, if you had any idea that internal struggle

that I have, it wasn't for the culvert,

it would already been done.

Don't try to act like you're a nice guy.

If it wasn't for the culvert, you'd have already done it.

I do weigh out how, like how to repair the damage.

I do weigh it out.

It's irreparable.

You sell the home.

But I feel like it's the only thing you can do.

At some point, it's at some point,

you and I both know it's going to happen.

That's fine.

Just throw a little seed down.

Yeah.

Nebraska, anything grows, you just throw some seed down.

I don't ever be the same.

You'll seed the patches for fucking two years.

It'll be darker green.

Hey, I'm just telling you, get it out of your system.

We got what, about seven months?

Yeah.

Do you shovel your own driveway?

You think, you think.

No, fuck that.

That's something I never had no problem with.

There's a guy that would come out there and do the driveway

and the sidewalks.

Yeah, whatever that cost, pay him to do that.

Because I shoveled snow the first winter

when we moved up here.

And I was like, oh, that's kind of cool.

It's snowing.

You're doing this shovel thing like a third time.

Fuck that noise.

That shit sucks.

Well, shoveling's no fun.

We talk about this all the time.

I'm going to craft this in the best way as I can.

I'm sure it'll come out.

Right.

We live in a pretty OK, nice area, right?

Waspy.

When we.

New term, I was told.

When we go back and forth between our houses, right?

We go the back way through the neighborhood.

There's homes.

That are obviously, if you can afford that home,

you can afford to have somebody do your driveway.

I'm having my driveway done.

He's having his driveway done.

You walk through and you're seeing these homes, right?

And you're going through and you're like,

Motherfucker, you're shoveling driveway.

And then for the first 10 seconds, I'm like, man,

I feel like a shithead because I just left out of my clean

driveway and this dude's doing it.

And then I'm like, no, you're a fucking idiot.

You absolutely can afford to pay for somebody

to shovel your driveway and you're not doing it.

Is that the one thing that you're going to get out there and do?

Have you shoveled your driveway?

Sometimes.

I'm going to take it as shoveling.

What do you mean sometimes?

When the guy doesn't show up.

What the fuck?

Where's the shovel?

No.

Get started and then like, fuck this.

There's no, you're not shoveling your driveway.

You're not shoveling your sidewalk, let alone your driveway.

If we're going to do the cool spectrum like you've been doing,

if you're shoveling a driveway, you're not cool.

No, you're not cool.

You're not cool.

No.

Because you know what you have to dress like to shovel

your own driveway for two and a half hours.

Fucking Eskimo.

Yeah, like cousin Eddie.

If you're going to have that big, I mean, you know, the average American.

This is going to come off really, really bad.

I think these are the conversations that happen.

All fair.

Next to that Model A in the rundown gas station while sleeping on the ground.

Yeah, this is why you're looking at the stars.

Hey, hand me some more of that truffle.

Put on my eggs.

I did enjoy.

Are these whale eggs?

For years, I plowed everything.

I had a plow truck and I would catch.

I'd do my driveway.

I'd hit my parents' driveway.

Usually didn't catch fills.

And then I'd do the shop.

In a truck with a heater and listening to music.

Yeah, but you just like getting high off the exhaust fumes.

Yeah, the bed sides were rusted out.

At any shoveling.

It's plowing.

But it was enjoyable.

That was your younger days though.

Like we're too old to be doing that stuff and run a business.

And that's where it comes down to.

I pay a girl to do our laundry.

And she helps clean the house because I'm running four businesses.

Well, she traveled out this way because my wife sucks it.

Think about it.

But think about it.

You're helping.

I'm pretty vocal about it.

It's affordable for us, right?

We found some young girl that she's happy to do it.

And so we're helping the economy.

We're spreading the wealth.

She's getting paid to do easy work.

I mean, laundry is easy.

It's just, I hate doing it.

If it's easy.

I don't know why my wife can't fucking figure it out.

Because it sucks.

It's got to be easy.

They make a whole machine for it.

She just put it in there.

I don't know how to run the machine.

Okay.

And then you're living out of the machine.

I know we're not the only ones who do that.

You're pulling your clothes out of the machine wrinkly.

I mean, again, this is this podcast will never air.

But if the last hour is just not going to be.

These are important.

If you make a washing machine and a,

and a, what's the other one that drives it?

The dryer.

Yeah.

The dryer.

The washer, the dryer.

Tell me why out of everything that they do,

they have to put literally this is,

this is fucking gold.

Now listen, everybody listen.

They have to put notices in the airplane.

Do not open the emergency door in flight.

Right.

They have to tell all these stupid motherfuckers exactly

what to do and what not to do.

Right?

You following me?

You're tracking me.

I'm trying.

Cause the fucking population is that dumb,

but they can't make a fucking washer and dryer that's just go

or stop or start.

You have to have 50 other fucking numbers and stuff like that

and this load and this load.

There's not a thing on a washing dryer.

Why do you even have to fuck with that?

What are you doing fucking with that?

Well, I don't have to.

I don't know how to,

I don't know how to do it.

I'll never learn.

But if it was simple as insert the clothes,

close it and hit start.

If all you had to do is hit start,

I could do that.

There is one.

Well, you need to do a dry cleaning service.

It's cheaper.

They pick up, you just put it in a bag and put on your porch.

They pick it up, wash it full to bring it back.

So you're telling me they make them out there.

There's a washer and dryer that,

if you get the cheaper model,

you can just push start.

That's your,

you're in that fancy neighborhood.

You're getting all,

you got this fancy ass washer and dryer.

You're so fancy,

he doesn't even have to use a washer.

There's too many options.

At this point,

getting rid of my,

my washer and dryer is going to cost me half of what I got.

So that cheap washer and dryer is still going to be more

expensive in the long run.

She's got her role.

She knows it.

Is she running for businesses?

No,

she runs my house.

Exactly.

Well, then that's her job.

But if you're too busy,

you should delegate.

She's the queen,

she's the queen of the house.

I delegate clean clothes,

food.

There's another thing that she's got to do.

That's splitting duties.

It's been that way.

20, coming up on 24 years.

And going back to your original question.

You'll be really happy to know.

Mary and running business together.

He does help with like washing dishes.

Yeah.

You know.

And building decks.

You wash,

you wash dishes.

He builds a mean deck.

Really?

Physically,

you put them in the latest one.

You put them in the machine?

No.

Well, yeah.

Sometimes.

Oh, do I put the, yeah.

I use cast iron.

How do you start that thing?

I think he's got 25 directions.

Hold it for like four seconds

and you shut the fucking door.

So all run business all day.

Take care of kids.

Cook.

And then he'll do the dishes.

Which is like super helpful.

It's a team, you know,

we're a good team.

Flood that kitchen one time.

You won't ever get asked to do it again.

That's the best thing to do.

Not with the purposeful.

Huh?

What?

You're asking stupid questions.

Right now.

You're married to a sugar glider.

Flood that thing.

You're talking about blaze.

Flood in the fucking house.

Blaze is flooded.

Blaze is flooded this house

more than houses have been flooded

in Illinois.

Is that your wife's name?

No, that's my son.

Your son.

Yeah.

Quick learner on that.

Wasn't your son in a shop or something?

Honest.

Blaze was working here for a while.

Yeah.

He did good.

I will give as much shit as I give my son

is dumb of things that he's done

that's exactly like every dumb thing I've ever done.

The two flooding of the homes,

both times he caught the absolute wrath of me.

Both times were in his fault.

And I felt,

the second time I felt bad,

I had to say, you know what?

Sometimes in life you're going to learn

that you lose your cool

and you say things that you don't mean.

Most of those things I didn't mean.

Couple of things at the beginning I did mean.

They hit home for different reasons.

How old is Blaze?

He is 19.

Yeah.

This was when Blaze was a junior in high school.

He started his own mobile detailing business, right?

Good kid.

Worked here in the summertime.

But when he was at school,

he couldn't really work here that much.

He'd come in for a few hours.

So he started doing that mobile detailing.

Really, he was doing great.

Had a kid working for him.

Well, in right outside of our garage,

he's got a laundry room.

He got a mop sink and stuff like that.

And he was filling up some of his spray bottles and stuff.

My wife had the mop sitting in there.

Interesting chain of events.

The mop fell over, turned on the sink.

Sink fills up.

The mop fills the...

That happens all the time.

You believe that?

With your level of craftsmanship on the bullshit.

I went back and looked at the data.

Turns out he was correct, right?

So mop fills the drain, sink overflows.

There's a drain in the floor of the laundry room.

That drains...

That drain...

No.

That was...

That's my room, down in the basement.

All my things.

All of the irreplaceable things.

All Josh's worldly possessions.

All of the worldly...

That's my treehouse.

That's my cigar box, right?

Good thing about that is the way it's built

and fully enclosed in concrete

and stepping down into it,

there's no way for the water to go,

except just fill up inside of it, right?

The other good part is it ran down the walls

where all of these prized possessions are hanging on the walls.

Which the walls are also made of bare metal?

They are, correct.

Yeah, so it's...

Yeah.

All cold rolled steel and the things on the walls.

Yeah, so that was super cool.

Got a little patima now.

Luckily they were all waxed beforehand, right?

It was cleaned up, but there was the moment where I was like,

oh shit, we started cleaning,

because it was starting to run into the house on the hardwood,

caught it fairly early, thank goodness.

But then, started cleaning that up,

and then I didn't even realize what happened downstairs.

So I go downstairs, I see what happened down there,

and it was like the...

put the sign in the yard.

Fuck it, we're moving.

It's a total loss.

But we got through it.

Just wait, you have your time.

Yeah, I'm sure.

Matt, he's definitely...

Where was Jeremy and his son going to ride the dirt bikes

if you had...

If you saw him.

He had to move somewhere close.

He's like, no dude, my buddy used to live here.

I'm good.

He said I was good with it.

Next house, we had a couple of berms,

maybe a table top in the backyard.

Yeah, I got 21 and 19,

and y'all have no idea.

Oh, the 21's out.

I'm coming in on that at 14.

Yeah.

That's the start of the gauntlet.

You're about to start the gauntlet.

That's when the...

It does change.

Is it a boy or a girl?

Well, the 14-year-old's boy.

Legs are high school.

That's an odd time to be calling in the middle of the day.

That was just recently.

Yeah, but I had hundreds of them,

so you're just getting started.

We've got some challenges ahead of us.

We were talking about this at lunch today.

How do you keep a straight face

when the principal is telling you

what your son may or may have not said

and you think it's hilarious?

The second big sit-down,

the second time at the high school

when I couldn't keep the straight face

and then I told them all,

every problem you've got is because how stupid

you run this fucking school

and all your dumb fucking ideas.

Going forward, do not call me.

You can call her.

Call my wife.

She can handle it.

You're gonna call me.

I'm gonna say you did something fucking stupid

to cause this problem.

And then they don't call you anymore.

Super constructive.

It's stupid shit.

It's dumb shit.

No, I agree.

I told my oldest son he was in second grade

and she was giving me a hard time.

He wouldn't sit still, but he's a boy

and he's in second grade.

Of course, he's not gonna sit at a desk all day.

And like half the class was medicated

and the other half was being watched

with a happy, sad or media, you know, neutral face.

And she wanted to send a sad face home every day

and I go, you are making him identify as a bad kid.

Do not send these home.

If he's being bad, send him to the principal.

And she never once,

never once send another sad face home again.

Handled it.

Yeah.

So I agree with you on that point.

If they're being ridiculous.

Yeah, we've had some interest.

You experienced, there's a lot of ups and downs,

a lot of interesting things that you,

I'd say like it all worked itself out.

It's generally pretty good.

I mean, it's a great school district where we live.

It's pretty grounded, you know,

but you experienced some weird shit.

Like I had, I was a little vocal on one of them.

The principal was pretty cool about it.

I mean, they sort of heard where I was coming from.

I will say that.

I was interested in hearing where they were coming from.

Well, we need to advocate for our kids.

Yeah.

I mean, we had one out.

My daughter, my daughter's like a fucking saint,

like straight A student, like absolute rock star.

How old is she?

She's 12.

And like every teacher absolutely loves her.

She had one shit head teacher and the teacher,

something happened and she was talking to another girl.

The teacher grabbed her by the hair and yanked her hair.

Like yanked her hair.

And this turned into like a thing.

My wife just didn't say anything at first

and a bunch of other kids saw it

and the kids were telling their parents

and like this turned into a whole thing.

And eventually my wife talked to the principal about it

and turns out this fucking shit head of a teacher,

this has happened multiple times and she was like suspended

and you know, they get through it

and they put her on like a small leave of absence

and bring her back and put her back back to work.

And then it happened.

Something happened again recently with this.

I mean, there's a lot of bad seeds.

I don't want to like that's not something I'm not going to pile on

because there's some great teachers

that we had a great teacher on recently.

Those bad teachers so the good teachers can come in,

but that's definitely a problem.

Like fucking fire them.

You know, like that's a little ridiculous.

The other, the flip side is the teachers

that have to deal with the shit they have to deal with.

If it was my son, I'd be like,

I wouldn't even raise a fuss to be like,

well, how hard did you hit him?

Did you hit him hard enough?

Maybe.

Hit him harder next time.

But my daughter, I'm like,

that's insane that you do something like that.

Yeah.

You get, it's...

I'd flip tables over.

You know, theoretically.

I know the teachers that had to deal with my dumb ass

and my son's dumb ass.

Is this at the answer center, the conventionals,

the regular school?

Most of it would be the regular school

before I got sent to the answer center.

That was the reason for going to the answer center

because they said I don't have the answer.

Maybe the answer center has the answer

for his dumb ass.

Did the answer center treat you any different

or was there the same kind of...

Yeah, it turns out they didn't have the answer.

They were...

What did you do wrong?

Everything.

Were you aggressive?

Were you fighting everybody?

The reason I got kicked out of 11th grade?

Yeah.

That's...

Probably can't talk about that on my money here.

Yeah, that was for a private conversation.

Definitely not talking about that on here.

Yeah.

It turns out it worked out fine.

It looks like you turned yourself a new leaf or whatever.

You'd get out of your system.

Yeah, it turns out you had a knack for sales.

See, it's just redirection.

Glass half full.

Yeah.

So, we've done all the standard questions with you.

So, you have to sit this one out.

So, now we're going with them too.

We have new standard questions.

We do have new standard questions.

Do you have new standards?

No.

They've been getting lower.

Same low standards.

I'm pretty sure Phil's already sent the e-mail

that this whole entire episode gets canceled.

Yeah, he's...

Is there a score?

I was looking at the score because I'm...

Don't look.

It hasn't kicked off.

It started at 6.30, didn't it?

Oh, you're 18 minutes in the...

Yeah.

How does it start late?

It's 21-0 already.

Is this a home game?

Where do they play this game?

It's in Miami.

Oh, no.

Dude, I'll tell you what.

Cardi B's probably doing the national anthem.

Being outside today and knowing that the bears

played in that weather yesterday.

What the fuck?

Couldn't pay me enough.

Why did they do that?

Why don't they make that...

Why don't they make that a summer sport?

It's cold where you come from.

Not this cold.

I thought it was colder by them.

Really?

No, it's not.

In those open plains, you know?

It's not.

Dude, this week has been killer.

We don't get the snow like we used to.

We didn't...

Last year was a mild ass winter.

Last few years.

Yesterday was nuts.

People were just dying in the streets.

Freezing.

To death.

I got up, took the garbage out this morning.

It was pretty sure.

I thought I was gonna die and heard about it on the news.

It was as close as I've come to it.

That's a near death experience.

I had to take the garbage to the street this morning too.

Fuck that.

I said that.

Maybe you guys could hire somebody to do that.

I said fuck that.

No, my son's supposed to do it.

Blaze, where are you?

The motherfucker is paying rent.

They stopped paying rent.

They bring it in, but I wouldn't wish that on them.

I haven't taken it to the street in forever, probably.

Really?

Today was the day.

Because Blaze got home late last night.

She's like, hey, can you take the garbage out?

Nah, fucking stomp my feet.

This is fucking bullshit.

Yeah, that's brutal.

I said the garbage guy's not even gonna come pick it up.

It's so fucking cold.

That's Martin Luther King Day, so I don't...

Did they?

Yeah, they probably didn't even do.

I see you did that for no reason.

Ah, fuck her.

I'm gonna hit those fucking garbage cans if I get home and they're not dumped.

Like my wife?

That's in your truck, though.

You're the only person that I know that's had more damage to a brand-new truck, the first

brand-new truck you've ever had than any of the used trucks you've ever had.

Is that the truck we went to lunch in today?

Yeah, I curbed the shit out of it parking, by the way.

You're not gonna hurt it.

You could hardly tell.

Yeah, I'm cursed with that.

That was the first time I ever bought a new vehicle in my life.

And it was like, I don't know, maybe six months into it, my mom comes over, I think we've

told this story before, but my mom comes over to wash the kids and...

To watch them or wash them?

Watch the kids.

Wash or wash?

They probably should.

Wash.

So I come home the next morning, we went downtown for something and I come home the next morning

and I'm going out to the garage and I walk past the truck and I see like a little bit,

I see like a reflector on the ground, like a little piece of a reflector and I look at

it and I'm like, what the fuck?

It must have been like an Amazon.

My wife orders 400,000 things from Amazon.

Lots of reflectors from Amazon.

Well, it's a shipping hub, so I figured maybe an Amazon truck came and it, you know, it

felt, because I'm looking, I looked at my truck and I didn't see anything.

So then I walk by again and I'm like, holy fuck, like the back end, the whole back of

my truck is just KO'd.

Dude, the bumpers folded in and then now I start looking at like the fucking bed sides,

creased, like buckled.

It's basically totaled.

So now I'm going to put two and two together.

Oh, we're here framerates swayed over two inches.

Oh, I can't open the tailgate.

The bedside's pushed into the tailgate.

The tailgate's locked in.

But she texted you and let you know beforehand, right?

No.

No, she just, no, she did not.

And I hope she's listening to this too.

So I waited out and I'm like, well, surely my mom's going to like call me and tell me

that she smoked my truck.

No phone call.

She finally calls me about three o'clock and she's just talking.

So how was last night?

It's good.

Where'd you guys go to eat?

We kind of go through the whole thing and I'm just waiting for her to offer it up.

And at no point does she.

So I'm like, anything else happened?

Not like everything.

Cool.

Like nothing.

Hey, by any chance did somebody hit my truck at 95 miles an hour?

Your truck, your and she's trying to dodge it.

She's your truck.

Huh?

Your truck.

I sure did.

Whoa.

Fuck it.

So I'm like, you must have cranked the garages right here and I park out of the garage and

it's like maybe a car length.

Would you say two car lengths?

Yeah.

She must have backed out of the garage at a hundred miles an hour.

So she drives a little Cadillac SUV.

I think the frame's bad.

Just a little bit.

I guarantee it is.

And I'm like, mommy, you should.

Well, I didn't think anything happened to it.

So I did.

I wasn't going to say anything.

Like you're fucking crazy.

So I call Phil because she's going to Phil's son's football game or something.

I hate Phil.

My chance is you're with mom, right?

Yeah.

Take a look at her car like see because she backed into my truck and my truck is smoked.

So Phil goes and she's like, it's fucking total.

The truck.

The fuck.

The hatch is caved in the whole quarter.

Did it?

It was a quarter of a hatch bumper cover.

Tail light.

You know, I mean, you're probably talking like he got into the roof.

I think he buckled the roof.

I would venture to get five more miles an hour and she would have told him to her car

or your truck would have been flipped.

Yeah.

Or the truck would have flipped.

That was on your driver's side.

That's my driver's.

It's the same truck.

Yeah.

So that was just the driver's side.

That's the driver's side.

The passenger side was fine, right?

The passenger side was okay.

So I'm like, I was going to go get this fixed and then, you know, it's that's a difficult

thing to like be out of your planning and scheduling and all that stuff.

And knowing that anybody that fixes it, it's going to come back like 70% as good as you'd

like it to be.

So I'm like, we'll figure this out.

My wife drives my truck a lot and she comes up to me and she's really nervous.

She's actually a very good driver.

I will say, I'll give her that fucking back.

And she doesn't want the loss.

Yeah.

She's a winner.

She's a great driver.

However, she does not like taking losses.

Does not want to take a loss.

Backs out of the drive.

You don't want to have anybody have something on you, right?

And that's backs out of the driveway and the neighbor has a dumpster.

Not a garbage can dumpster.

A mini dumpster, which they put.

You could not.

If you said, where could I place this that someone would hit it across the street?

It's about you.

You couldn't place it better.

It's not in an ideal location.

No, it's in the ideal location to hit it.

Yeah.

But it's there also every single week.

So one might know that like the dumpsters there, if my mom was doing 75 when she hit

my truck, Lindsay was probably doing 50, I guess.

So now the other side of the fucking bumper is smoked.

The truck is just like, so I'm not even like, what's the point in fixing it?

Because anything I own just gets panterred.

Like people just destroy my shit.

Driving by your house, you're like, okay, that dude doesn't need to be shoveling his

own driveway.

You know what?

They think you're this guy.

Dude, go ahead, shovel your own driveway.

Look at that truck.

You're driving.

Fucking totaled.

Yeah.

We're putting the Nova in his yard.

Yeah.

The one and only.

That's my first new vehicle of everyone.

All right.

Standard questions.

Old faithful favorite car movie.

Herbie.

I grew up on Herbie.

Herbie was a girl.

So all my cars are alive in some way.

Were you a Disney kid?

I mean, I grew up with Ariel.

My family was a Disney family.

We watched a lot of Disney films.

Do you name your cars?

Does the 911 have a name?

No.

I don't name them.

Is it a he or a she?

It's a girl.

Yeah.

It's weird.

Driving your girl 911 hard.

You don't have a name, but it's a girl.

I guess so.

It's a she.

It feels like a she.

She's a quick girl.

She's hot.

I mean, people take pictures of my car all the time when I'm driving around.

What's a 911?

Of course.

It's favorite car movie.

Christine.

That's a good one.

Chrysler.

57.

No.

8.

9.

58.

59.

300.

Yeah.

Michelers hit listening to this right now.

He's so pissed off.

Yeah.

He is so pissed off.

Yeah.

And it's not even an error.

It's a Plymouth though.

Oh.

Plymouth Fury.

I think it is a Fury.

Yeah.

Christine's a good movie.

Yeah.

We should cut in Michelers' description of what the car actually is.

Yeah.

That's what I'm just going to say.

I haven't even seen it in like 15 years.

That was actually built in November.

So it's a Plymouth.

Rare option.

Early August.

Next up.

We can, we'll try.

If this is, I mean this whole episode is not airing so it doesn't matter.

What year did you graduate high school?

I dropped out of high school.

What year would you have graduated high school?

06.

Thank you.

For both of you?

05.

Oh fuck.

You guys are youngsters.

Yeah you are.

Damn.

I have a 18 year old daughter.

And I have a 20 year old son.

Yeah.

I'm not too young.

I got my GED in 04.

He's an amigo.

I understand why you dropped out of high school.

I got pregnant after I dropped out.

Yeah but you had to drop out to practice.

I'm a good salesman.

Exactly.

So 05 and 06.

We ask these questions.

Sometimes we want to try to guess cars.

But that genre, that genre is difficult for me.

Well it's short, yeah it's after our time.

Which makes it tough.

I don't even know why.

But I got it in my head.

Here we go.

This is Mitsubishi 3000 GT or Dodge Stealth.

I'm just going there.

No fucking way dude.

At that point that was a damn near a collector car.

In 05?

Yeah.

The car that was like a 97.

I did think the 3000 GT was cool.

It's a cool car.

I grew up playing video games or whatever.

Or an eclipse.

What was the Lancer?

I had owned a Lancer, a brand new Lancer.

Is it Gran Turismo?

Yeah.

Because it was my favorite car driving Gran Turismo?

Wow.

I've always been a car girl.

That's my guess.

She's probably wrong.

That's just where I'm going.

It's just what hit me.

06.

05.

06.

05.

Where's this going to go?

What cars are you guessing for why?

Your very first car.

It'll never guess it so it's fine.

First mode of transportation.

Was it a gift or did you purchase it?

It was from a junkyard.

I'm going K car.

Just a car.

Four door road of transportation.

K is good.

That's a K5.

That's a K5 Blazer.

No, not in that neck of the woods.

It's a K5 Blazer.

That thing would have been rotten to shit.

It wouldn't have been a K5 Blazer left in the junkyard.

In Nebraska?

I think so.

I think.

I don't know.

You guys salt the roads?

We're not like you guys do.

So what do you think?

I can say it?

Yeah.

79 Camaro.

Oh.

I drove it all four years.

Well, sorry.

I drove it three years of high school legally.

I drove my freshman year too.

But it came from a junkyard.

Didn't run.

Got it running, working.

I drove it.

No heat all winter long.

I broke the rear end on it.

Trying to do cookies in the parking lot at school.

Because I welded it together to get a posse.

Oh yeah.

Nice.

That's pretty cool.

First car.

It was an 89 Honda Accord.

It was totaled twice before it was given to me.

It was a hand-me-down from my brother.

Totaled twice?

Yes.

And rebuilt?

I don't know how.

The transmission, it blew one time and then like the bodywork.

Tell us how you put the nail on the coffin on it.

Because you totaled it.

89 was flip-up headlights, right?

Yes.

I love that.

You have a top speed run.

I don't think I totaled that one.

That one.

Four door or two door?

I think I had 14 cars.

Four door or two door?

It was a four door.

It was fun.

It was a stick.

My first car was a stick.

That's a good generation Honda Accord.

I flipped many of those.

It's my favorite.

I wish I had some time.

I flipped them for money.

I sold a lot of those cars.

We've really been missing lately.

That's an interesting generation.

It really is.

Next up, in those vehicles, on your way to work since you dropped out of high school,

what would be the go-to CD that you're listening to?

In a disman that was...

Oh, five is CD.

I think I had CDs.

We were pre-CDs.

What was I into then?

No doubt.

I was into local bands.

No, that was late 90s.

I liked No Doubt.

No Doubt was late 90s?

I liked it.

Really?

Man, I'm old.

I'm not questioning you.

I'm like, that's just throwing me off.

Don't speak and all that.

No, No Doubt was early 2000s.

Actually, I'm very diverse.

No, no, I graduated in 96 and you're similar.

Yeah, I graduated in 97.

Yeah.

Don't speak was in that whole era.

Really?

They're still cool then.

Chronic was 94, right?

95.

We have the technology.

Yeah.

I don't...

I'm telling you right now, No Doubt was 2000.

No, no, no, no, no, no.

Yes.

No, no.

And he was a big fan.

He went to several concerts.

Correction.

The tragic album?

No Doubt first album.

Tell him again.

Trash at kingdom.

92.

The band is pretty good with those days.

Yeah, big time.

Time.

Did anybody listen to it in 97?

Yeah they listened to it in 96.

You're thinking of that fucking banana song where that shit is.

It's right.

Now you're right that I'll give you that

That's not their first hit though. That's not

Let's let's let's try this you're still probably more correct than me, but it's 92 is not not right

Oh, yeah, 95 that'd be like a year off from 96 right?

So if it came out 95 he's more right. I'm just saying 92 92 was too early

So the just a girl 95. I mean he was almost like he's dead on he's honestly dead on Andy was way more correct than I was

1,000% but 92 was too early you great that 92 or that was still wrong. So no, he's right

So I'm wrong. No, he's right. You were 97. I was I graduated 97. Yeah

Did you graduate you graduate from the answer center or do they put I never missed a year

I was my claim did you graduate from the answer center?

Did they put you back in the regular high school for graduation? No, I graduated from the answer center

Me and two other people is that like a conventional ceremony like the two of you guys did they give you the gowns and hats and shit

Who's that? Did the answer center have a W in it? Did the government funding?

No

It was yes, we had a traditional ceremony. Just you there just wasn't a lot of people there you and that other guy

And two and a girl did the gate unlock and you got to walk out

Wasn't a lot of people there just quick. It was quick. It was super quick. That was the thing. I liked about it

That was there was a selling point at the beginning. I hate you so much

So much

Let me remind you that you're not for learning was just a one period class

Graduated with the rest of the class like a normal person

With a special little metal no, they're like every treat them like they're the same

Look at them

Graduating with everybody else

You hey, you can do it

You can do it

Like a day here, so I ain't judging but you graduated 97. Yes

Alabama in Alabama in Alabama. No, Georgia, Georgia. Yeah

So you missed on no doubt so so what was the song in 97 in

97 yeah, I

Didn't listen to anything that was that was like new in 97 like I was just CCR price

Skinner no skinners. It was it was skinnered

very very

This is this was the next stereotype and he lived up to one

No, I'll give you that this is this isn't that you can't even write the stereotype

This is this is the the mix on a Friday or Saturday night cruising around North Georgia

Let's hear your mix tape. All right, so this this and I don't I don't care. I don't care

I'm gonna be honest right now. Yeah, so it was skinnered

Hank Williams, Jr

Brian Brian Adams

Summer of 69 and it was the one with the tire on the CD

It's the one with the it's like a it's like a off-road tire on the CD that said Brian Adams

Yeah, I think it was summer 69 and

And right no and another band we just used to listen to which was what was that man? Hmm the other band

Did you say a little Troy? Yeah, no, that was where you like that was when we went to to Panama City

We but no it was either bone thugs in harmony. Oh, yeah

Shamed of there. Yeah

Oh

Which one

Name them and I'll recite the lyrics to you

That's that's one of the ones we used to listen to a lot. Yeah. Yeah dinosaurs my favorite

Dinosaurs my favorite. Yeah

I

Yeah, that was the eclectic mix that we saw and every now and then when it gets a little spicy

Maybe a little DAC, you know, you throw a little DAC in there and get after it

So the other bands would have proved of the bone thugs selection

Probably not we had conversations about that as well

Didn't David Allen code do like a little duo with them like with bone thugs. Yeah, that was a two-pot

I think you're thinking of somebody different. Yeah, I'm pretty sure Georgia

How'd you become an alabama fan? Just my fan my family is always I didn't grow up in Georgia

I was only in Georgia from late middle school through high school. I

Lived everywhere, but my my mom's family

always been from Alabama and

I would always have to

Looking back on it now. I kind of understand why but I thought I was going to visit my grandparents every summer

But I think I was being sent to my grandparents every summer

And they were in Alabama. Yeah

Turns out I really like enjoyed it, but I didn't think it was yeah

Yeah, I think I was sent to like yeah, so I'd go to my grandparents on the summer and my dad my

grandfather was a fireman and then

built houses so I would go and do construction and

From like 10 11 years old and I thought it was the coolest thing, but it turns out I think they were trying to work like

Work the devil out of me

Sounds like your grandparents may have had more structure than your parents did. Yeah. Yeah, my my

Yeah, my grandparents were awesome. I

Have a similar story. I was always at my grandma's always

Yeah, they were they were good people both of them were but that was a

You too. Mm-hmm. It's that generation. Yeah, it is he has a very interesting story

I love Rick's story. Which one you're

To software oh

upbringing

Let's see

Yeah, birthday parties is like seven years old in the strip club

Really? Yeah, my dad loved strippers and my half-brothers mom was a stripper

Okay, and the place was called razzle dazzle. So that's his shop name

Yeah, they're twins. She had two of them, but you're

Hold on I got it. This is this I know I'm not I'm just awesome. I'm not trying to be I'm not trying to be difficult

I'm just trying to follow

Your dad

Your dad loves strippers. So my mom and my dad got divorced when I was five, right?

And then my dad ended up going to the strip club afterwards a lot, right?

But your half-sister no my two half-brothers, okay, and then their mom was a stripper from a place called razzle dazzle

So

Now we call we do some of us call them razzle dazzle at work because I wouldn't you yeah, the place doesn't exist no more

Yeah, okay

Restarted I put him in a time clock as razzle dazzle. So the first time he clocked in it said razzle dazzle clock thing

And he had no clue. I mean, it's like tan

It's awesome

But yeah, um, so a fascinating story keep going dude. I mean you've got me hooked so far

So any place that we all went we always like my mom and dad was split up

So every the weekend I use my dad the first place we go strip club

I we knew all the girls there

We knew everything and the first place when my brother's got out of the hospital when they were born they went to the strip

Are you serious? Yeah, I mean because we knew everybody there

They have they have and they have care for y'all for for for infants and stuff. Yeah. Yeah, they do chicken wings

They're

There's a tip go bag

There so they're they're set up for for such uh such events. Yes, they realize somebody's gonna have a baby soon

Don't ever say shit about albama ever again

Do you find there's like a certain like welcoming comforting feel about them now at your age?

Like for what for strippers? Yeah, if it's like you go into a strip club

Did it feel like home? Does it feel like welcoming? Is it like going like to the grandparents house for christmas?

He's really good with the ladies

Yeah, I don't have necessarily go into strip clubs anymore. Okay, uh, because it wasn't necessarily

A good environment. There was a lot of drinking and drugs and obviously all that stuff

But I made me grow up a lot faster witnessing a lot of stuff, but also the boobs

and

I because those are there

I'm an ass man myself, but you know, whatever those are also there

You know, this wasn't Nebraska. This was Iowa. They were in council bluffs

Council bluffs. Uh, we don't want to take claim in Nebraska. It was over the river. Is that is that pasties or full nude?

Oh full no

It's the real deal

I don't know if most of it was real

I

Did I will say that uh, I mean I can share a similar story filled it would be a part of this story that

There's a certain there's a certain level of uh, like right of passage or growing up

Uh, you my dad's best friend shout out to tom check me. Rarely do I throw uh shout outs out, but

We're gonna give time. It's been a while. We're gonna give tom check me a shout out. We're gonna see him next week or this week

No, he lives in uh, Louisiana

Yeah, but I want to say I was 12 or 13. How old do you think yeah, that's probably somewhere around 12 or 13

We're in Key West, Florida

And uh, we're bombing around and I think that was you know, I probably had my first beer at that age too with tom

Uh, we rented mopeds. We rented mopeds ripping around takes us more fun than a rental car

Just takes us into a strip club, you know, and we're just and I'm like, yeah, what is going on?

I'm a little kid like I wasn't they seem to be really loose on the rules

They're loose up until you're about 19. Right and then there's a problem. So we walk right

You know, he had he's got a certain level of confidence now

We're checking IDs and he walks in a buddy that was here right in six right to a table

And we're sitting there and it's like they didn't know what to do because here's this guy with two little kids

I mean fills two years older than me. So he's like 15 at the time

And we're sitting there and he's ordering drinks and stuff and uh

The girls are coming around and some guy comes up and starts giving him a hard time and he tells him that we're his midget uncles

Yeah, he's like, no, they're like, they're too young to be in years. Oh, no, dude. We're good. These are my midget uncles right here

Like we're good. We're cool

And we I mean, we were he bought it

Well, I mean they didn't buy it

But what could he say it with such, you know, when you have confidence sales and yet sales

We're probably in there for 30 30 minutes or so

Yeah, we always went to the back door

Okay, so we want right in the front. No, right in the front. Yeah, you already said you're an ass, man

You

When was the first I'm not trying to get too deep

But when was the first time that you realized that's probably not what other kids did

Oh, right away for sure. You knew it right away. Oh, yeah for sure. What made you think that?

Um, I was mature for my age, but I knew that there was a level of maturity that I was above everybody else

But I'd never seen this before

So boobs. Yeah

There's a lot of them. They're cool

When they went to lunch and he was talking about what he did last weekend and everybody else was talking about arts and crafts

You know, I put together a new lego kit. Yeah, I saw some huge tits dude. So I'm fucking cool

Yeah, that's wild

How long did that last?

um quite some time actually, um

Probably five years six years until she decided one day

She was gonna get up and leave and leave my dad with her other two kids as well

The dad was gone or whatever, but that's what strippers do I guess but that's what so that's what happened

And um, so then that that's when that pretty much quit happening. Dude, let's face this Iowa

There's got to be better money in Vegas or Nevada. I mean both of those places

Vegas is in Nevada

No, she didn't leave for money. She didn't want kids

But it happens so then ricky raised his brothers

Yeah, I helped my dad raise my brothers and then they got to a point. I don't remember how old I was

Probably

12 or 13 I was trying to work

Uh, because I needed money my dad was broke

And I was actually had a full-time job being a mechanic working on tow trucks

And for my mom my mom drove the tow trucks

And I was working on mechanic are on the tow trucks all night long and then my dad worked night

So I couldn't watch his kids. So I told him. Hey, I said, hey, we got to get a babysitter

I'll pay for it or whatnot, but I got to work on on vehicles. I worked 36 hours straight one time

Because all these trucks were down. It was winter time. They were all gelling up and all that stuff

and then my dad and I got into a fight and

Basically kicked me out of the house

So then I moved my mom for like a year or two and then um after that

Pretty much bounced around for my friend's house and then my grandparents let me live there for a little bit until they passed

But I ended up getting a house and my grandfather before he uh passed

And then I was paying all the bills and everything like that and he was living with me as well

When I was 17, I was taking care of him working full-time and going to high school. Holy shit. Yeah. Yeah, dude

Shit, let's do the shit. Yeah. Have you rocked it out? Do you ever make up with your dad and stuff? Well, he works there

I mean y'all work. So I have a

Split personality or whatever you want to call it like work is work home is home

And I've had my uncle work for me. I've had I've had a bunch of people work for me

On my business that I ran that were family members and I fired my brother three times

Like work is work home is home. You don't mess with my work. You don't mess with my income

Yeah, you'll be fired or whatever you know, it is the case

So but me and my dad's pretty much made up since then but my my father has never been like a father figure to me

Because he never had a father figure

So we just kind of became kind of friends

And then even the fact that he asked me for father advice sometimes

Yeah, that's wild hence the little Ricky. Got it

They both have a huge butt crack

No, no, seriously, so his dad is the nicest guy. Yeah, I don't think he was mature enough to be a dad when he had his kids

Like it is naturally mature if people

Understood what this dude went through and how he raised his brothers and did the whole thing

That's on a whole other level

But he went through a couple high schools too kept getting kicked out

Well, I mean, that's gotta be that's gotta be hard to juggle. Mr. Misunderstood, buddy. I get it exactly

Yeah, I the time that I had anger built up. I just took it out and people that looked at me wrong

Yeah, I did this. Yeah, and then I'd rather be in a friend up being in a class by myself

And because they're like, hey, you're not fit to be with other kids. I'm like, okay, that's fine

So they're like, but we know you're trying and I was emancipated. So I had a choice to go to school or not

But I always chose to go to school when I wanted to finish it up

And they put me in a class by myself with a teacher

And they're like, okay, this is how we're gonna do it now. So that's awesome. It worked out for me

On that part of it

And he was showering at the school because he didn't have plumbing at home or whatever

Man, I thought it would put me in the class of miss beaver's the art teacher just me and her

Miss beavers

Yeah

It was a little ironic full transparency. Her name was actually miss bevers. She she she she

Do you think I mean I'm corrected us every day

That's a that's sort of a wild upbringing. I mean, would you trade it or do you think it it molded you into

The guy you are today. Do you feel like the guy you are today is like something you wouldn't want to change by going back and having this like

You know sort of storybook

Upringing the hardest part for me is like it's not meant to be towards anybody like that even I tell my dad this

I wouldn't be the father I am today

If I didn't try to be something that nobody was to me

Yeah

And that's what I I go off of and like I want to be there for my kids no matter what

And I know that I'm a good father and I want to try to be the best I can because I didn't have it for when I was growing

Damn

That dude's the real deal right there. Oh very impressive, man. I mean that's

His dad actually is a good dude. He is

I feel like he was probably in over his head back in the day, but he seems like a

There's a difference between book smart and real life smart

My dad was about books and everything else and you know, and he was

All about books and he learned everything he needed to learn when it come to his career

But on life because like I said, he didn't have a father so he didn't know how to be and I was his first

Kid and he was with my mom for five years and that was it other than that. He had to try to figure out everything on his own

Just like I said, I can understand he's not a bad guy for it

But it just made me a different kind of person. I get it. I mean to Annalise point though kids

We do get in the way of the titties like kids

That's the man's the worst part about kids. They get in the way of the titties like all the time

I've been saying that for 20 fucking years. That's wild story, dude

I'm not a good person. That's everybody's everybody knows that

Pivoting off of that right

This is this has got to be the most off-the-rails podcast we've ever done

We did the fucking one at Jesse's with cousin Mikey and it stayed on track more than this

We were we've been due and how was that possible cousin Mikey?

It was I mean it was more because he fucking choked he clams up

He clams the fuck up

Yeah, but that was just a drunk podcast at least it stayed on track 2026 he deserves redemption

Yeah, Zach needs. Yeah, Zach's coming back on Zach's coming back on that was he just it was uh, the cousin Mikey is just a

The dietary thing fucking ball dropper when it comes he wants to be the man

He wants to be the then the limelight and when the light hits

He fucking buckles. Yeah

Hey, he folds like a cheap suit. He had one shot. He had one shot just one opportunity

But lobster bob let's go there. He carries him. You know, he's

Lobster Bob this shit. Lobster Bob's the best you you absolutely you missed. Yeah, you missed the SEMA

Of all CMOS this last year

Dude, I was we were doing football games and birthday. I know we had we had Wednesday night

And we had Tuesday night and then we had Wednesday night and then we had Thursday night

And then Friday night when was the when was the night that we went?

It was Wednesday night. Was it Wednesday night? Wednesday night was awesome

With lobster bob lobster bob the shit

He's I mean he's we had a fun fucking time. Dave's a prime example doesn't mike. He got kicked out

Yeah, Dave's a great example of why this industry is so good, you know the people you meet and the relationships you build

And you know, but he's a good person. Well, yeah, he is but but he also bust balls with the best of them, you know

Oh, he does

Yeah, but he's a good person. That's what makes this shit all worthwhile. Chris is building him a 62

Yeah, he's fucking nice ass 62. He's building a kick ass car

It's a fucking wicked awesome. Chris built him a lot of good cars, man. Chris built some nice

Chris is a good dude. Chris is Chris is a really good dude. Yeah, he's the one that's living the life

Chris's got it. I think kind of figured out. Oh, yeah

Yep, Chris has got it figured out for sure. Does I think he does pretty good with the with the women

And titties he likes him titties

Chris got a nice little situation

This is good god this episode

You can't get me off the rail fucking episode with a hundred percent

Hands down

Hands down. Well, this is what our all of our conversations are too. We just don't we're fucking record it

Well, we all have to some degree, right

Huh, yeah, what josh, maybe not so much. Oh you happen

When you you're doing all the body side moldings and stuff, right? Yeah, we machined all the stuff for for Chris. Yeah, and

Lobster Bob. Lobster Bob. B-Boy Dave on the uh, B-Boy Dave. That's right

Um

I had I was going somewhere kept fucking me up. Yeah. No, we went to the music

We psyched you out with the positive energy. We never we never hit the music

We never hit the music with either one of you. We went we went off on a tangent on no doubt

What was what was the cd you were listening to?

I was diverse. I mean, I have never heard of that band

What was the band?

Hip hop rock alternative. What I was really into like punk ska

Oh, of course. Uh, what was the ska band back then real big fish? Yes, big fish. Love us

Um, ron chondo. I think was another one. There's local bands. They listen less than jake. Um, maybe

Capital g a y what were you listening to? Uh, trapped headstrong

Like that that actually cd trap

Trapped three six came out. I was listening to three six two. I mean, I'm telling you it's diverse

Ask her about the datans

Andy said I'm not allowed to talk about the datans

So that so the datans come after the three six obviously

So I have three six was only good to listen to at one point in time

And what was the date? I'm not allowed to talk about my dates. I had 150 spoke dates of the 1994 jeep grand Cherokee

14s or 15s

They were 22s

22 inch datans on a wrangler a grand Cherokee. She said Cherokee

Laredo, I thought I looked and I was cute. I you know, I was 50 pounds lighter

Oh, she was looking for

a ballplayer

Brothers were not on my radar

That had to be a pretty bad ass reader may have been wrong

You putting out all the wrong signals

I'm just saying

What driving driving position, how did you roll?

Hold careful. What that's going a little deep. She sat in the back seat. No, I did not

That's why my wife drives still to this fucking day. Oh 40 something years old

Anytime I get into one of josh's cars in the passenger seat his wife that

Look, Andy's leaving the chat

But when you're you're rolling in that thing

Are you kicked back? Is that yeah, that's the only way you drive with datans when you have run flats you

Nebraska has potholes. So you really do gotta see you gotta be up on it. I'm sure I lean back, you know, I'm comfortable

I'm cruising. Okay. I didn't know vogue did run flats

So that's a that's a rig three six

I'm impressed bone thugs, you know two pog little

Yeah, twist as my favorite actually still is from the shy

Yeah, I love twist us. We went

Recently we went up for like 30 years

Recently went to an event in Omaha. They had a uh

Tacos and tequila. Tacos and tequila bone thugs and harmony twista. Is there anybody left from bone thugs?

Yeah, no, they were there. They were there. I think he's dead. That's the only one

Oh, yeah, mike jones was there. Mike jones. Who the fuck is mike jones?

Eight six something something. I don't know the number 305. No, no, that's that's jenny

Yeah, that was a fun concert midwestern hip-hop 11

I was in this I was in the dirty. I was in the dirty when it hit

It just was just this is an opportunity for you to redeem yourself for uh all your negative

comments on

B.i.g notorious b.i.g. Oh, I won't return that. No, you don't want to walk that back. No tupac

Literally and figuratively killed biggie

I thought it was in every way. I thought did he killed biggie? Well, did he killed all of them? Yeah

Have you watched that documentary? It's amazing. I have holy shit

So you won't you won't even listen like juicy. You won't listen. No, I'll I'll if it comes on

I will listen to a couple of the songs. However, in the in the hierarchy of rap genius

He's not in the top

Who was it seven? Dude, we gotta mention kanye. I don't know how I let that one slip

who was never

2007 music

Music wise I never listened to I never listened to a music too old but in yeah, you're right my childhood

That was it 2007. Really? Yeah. Yeah, dude. I was just listening to some stand up

Comic, I forget who the hell was he was doing a stand-up show in Brooklyn

And he's talking about biggie and he's going on and he's like dude

He even made it like he would just do things like him

You know because he's obviously severely overweight how much a lot

It's like just him fucking having like a fat guy breathing episode

Sound he'd make it sound cool. It's like a dude in between beats

And everybody would like go crazy. I forget who the fuck it was dying laughing

I

Fuck it was just on I think it's big X the plug is the big guy right that sits on a sofa at his concerts

Dude, the new guy. Have you listened to his album big X the plug? Yeah. No

Wow

I've seen videos. It's sitting on stage on a sofa. Wow good. Wow bad. It's it's so

Interesting the biggest the largest the last couple of weeks. I've been on that

Out of nowhere for no reason and you give me shit

He does

But his whole his album is nothing but cool his new album is nothing but collabs. He does one with derrius rucker

It's fucking awesome

It's but so his whole thing is like I do like a hoodie the blowfish cover

No, he just does like his whole thing is with the cover with somebody

It's a lyricist that somebody that can sing and then he does his rap hook, right?

And then they sing and then he does his rap hook

But he does one with illa langley derrius rucker

Jesse mirf

He does I like to hear the jesse mirf one. I can get down with some jesse mirf

We had the we had the weirdest conversation this morning on the way back from the gym me and my wife

So we're i'm listening to music and jesse mirf comes on she said she turns it down. She's like

You got a thing for that don't you and I was like

Who?

Huh?

She's like that one's singing right there. I was like, yeah, I yeah, I do

And she's like I thought so that dirty knee. That's exactly what you would like

So i'm like, yeah, well, she sounds fucking cool. She does so then she starts running through other

Then she starts putting them against each other like our our tops, you know, she's like

Christine aguilera and the dirty video

Or jesse mirf now

So

Well now you're now you're now you're time warping right now you're jumping through history. I was like

Yeah, I said probably christine aguilera and the dirty right

And then she goes to a couple other ones

I think jesse mirf ended up winning this was in like the 15 minute drive from the gym back to the home

She's an intriguing little specimen. She's got a voice. She's uh, she's our she's amy winehouse

She ain't got another year on the earth

She's I think she will live longer than amy winehouse. You think so I think so but I think she's gonna reel it back

Have you listened to her? Yeah, you know, I have she's got a voice that like she's

She's got a hell of a voice and and all alabama too. I mean I could see where you're coming. Oh, dude, that's

When I say river rat

Oh, she's a river. That's the that's the that's the embodiment of a river rat

I don't know that she has the

We did I had a thing for strip clubs. I got a thing for the fucking river rats. I mean I'd give them all

Whatever what do you want back to Eric sign over the deed? Eric has Eric has

The horseshoe tattoo that amy winehouse has Eric's a big

Amy winehouse. Okay. Yeah a big amy winehouse. Okay

Eric black or Eric white?

I hope Eric hears this black

We call Eric Eric white, okay

Because

That's

Eric black are definitely gonna do all it out. No, no, no these two right here. Oh, no, it's

Oh, we did some we did like that's like hulking flair. That's like hulking flair

That shit doesn't never happen. That just sells that just sells tickets, baby. Well, maybe you should

He's a black belt. Yeah

That's a bad motherfucker. I got a black belt too. Yeah, he looked he looked dangerous

You got a cauliflower here underneath. No, I did not I made sure I wear these

No, uh, they don't give out awards for street fights

Just saying just saying

You wouldn't want one of those either

What do you do? You do like jiu-jitsu or like karate or what do you call McGraw? What are you fucking around with?

More ground and pound stuff rather than fighting and then normally like JCVD stuff normally just punch them in the face and they fall down

So

Like sit my splits and stuff like that

Blood sport. Yeah, you kick trees down in sand and eyes and shit like that. Have you ever fought at the kumite?

Ask him how he met his wife

Tell us strip club. Love to hear no

And harbour fray's parking lot. Really?

She was a lot lizard. No, she was

He was gonna fight like 40 dudes

Yeah, so my friend decided he didn't like her friend for some reason fucking Metzger video

And he threw a brick in her window and I didn't realize he threw out the window

And then um, so we're in this group and like all her friends Peter's got to come off

Hey, I had one of those on it was a white tea though white tea not white Peter

But yeah, so, uh, he he broke the window out and then there was a bunch of people here

And I'm just standing in the back just have my arms crossed like this and

They're all going after my buddies in the middle and I'm just waiting for something to happen

Because I'm not gonna sit there and say hey, I'm with him. We can all you know, blah blah blah

So, uh, then then people started looking around and not and then this guy's like, who are you with?

I'm like, I'm with him in the middle. He's like, all right. Well, I'm whoever you're with I'm with him too

And then next thing I know they're all getting ready to turn around like they're all look at that

I know a couple of them. They've seen me before

And um, next thing we know is everybody was on my side and against them

So then they're like, okay, we're gonna nobody's gonna do anything. We're not gonna fight or nothing like that

So my wife not my wife at the time, honestly, um

She starts talking to her friend and talking to my buddy

And saying that I'm cute and stuff like that and then like she heard something about she's like, well, what do you do for a living?

I said, well, you know at that time I worked at Nebraska furniture mark

I delivered furniture and I had a nice car. I had a um a fortune Camaro

Of course. Yeah

He can carry an 8

Wait, hold up, L.S.1 or

L.S.1

S.S.

One day. Oh, that's a one day.

Fucking S.S.

Carried a full-size washing machine, the H.E. washing machines

Our story of our second story to the second story. I've carried fucking women before it ain't no big deal

Depends on how big they are

Okay

fan base

It's

You can't believe it

How big a girl was she

I don't do anything bigger than me

So she's asking about you got a nice car you got a Camaro

Yeah, so basically she wanted to go out with me because she wanted she's like this dude's got the stuff

Exactly, right so two weeks later. She gets pregnant

And um, she tells me she's pregnant by a father's day card. Hmm. That's cool. Yeah

That's something that's something they didn't teach you the strip clubs in the rest is history. No, it's definitely it's definitely not history

There's quite a bit more actually

So I got married in divorce in between us actually being married. Okay to somebody else

And I had another kid with her. I'm gonna tell you something right now

His life way more interesting

We got a moratorium for six months on Alabama shit. All right

Can we agree on that?

Nebraska takes the fucking cake. All right, Alabama gets a moratorium for six months

Shake on it. I'm not shaking on it. I mean, I think it's a different shape to the family tree

The Alabama's pretty linear

Their family trees are nowhere near related

Dude, that's a fucking willow tree that you got out there and that shit just goes

I think you need to write a book

Honestly, I'd read it. Yeah, I'd listen to it. Yeah

It's fucked up, but it'd be a great book

Holy shit

I thought this was gonna be I thought you were going towards that Metzger's type story

Like as he was telling the fucking you remember that video. Yes, dude. That was the probably the coolest

Fire role of it. It was like

The lily. Yeah, I said metzger. Sorry. That's here's the freestyle motocross. I screwed it up. Yeah, he was a pro skateboarder. Yeah

Fucking a was that bad? I just bad-ass fucking true fire flames, too

La Valley. Yeah. No, it was the same dude. No, it wasn't. Yeah. Look it up. It's not that's what that's what everybody didn't think

They didn't know that it was the same guy. That's because it wasn't

I'm pretty sure it was

Uh, I would have told that story if I were you I'd have been like, um that because you you could so then I grabbed my board

I'm sorry

Fucking just yanked my shirt off. I smoked these dudes

There's tribal tattoos underneath that

When you and in karate the first thing I tell you is don't ever start a fight or you'll be kicked out

Okay, first thing they teach you right off the get go right in the beginning

They tell you how to finish them. So somebody's somebody's always got to throw the first move, right?

Yeah, because if you throw the first punch you're you're basically a disgrace, right?

You know and most of them they got to start most of karate you don't even like go past defending yourself

You don't ever engage. No, I think he's pronounced karate, but that's fine. I just it's just

Am I right? Yeah

I think you're right

Last but not least

We got to wrap this up the national championship game is going to be over. It's an overtime already

Uh, where are they where they in first quarter just ended for you two. What's the score three nothing, indiana

It should be way more than that. Oh, Carson Beck

Carson peck laying it down. Did you see where he graduated two years ago?

Have you seen everything about him? Yes. Is that the guy you showed me that looks like timmy? Yes

I know timmy

They send the sloth from ice ice age. Yeah, he does something like that. That dude is a

Wow

Yeah, no wonder Kirby said that's fine. He's he's already making more money than I'll ever make. Yeah, but he's yeah

Dude, it's a little bit of a weirdo. They had a bit of a weirdo. He could throw a ball better than I could ever throw a ball though

Yeah, but he look at that head

Uh

Oh

You got a better looking head. I'm just telling I appreciate that. Uh, it didn't correlate financially

And we'll see how we'll see how it works out the game ain't over yet

Uh

All right for both of you two your most memorable law enforcement interaction

story

Okay, so

This trip club one time I was riding a motorcycle pretty fast and

It ventured off after a car flipped over it ventured off

Dude, you blow you blow by the most important key things in the story

On its owner. He's still on the motorcycle. So my buddy and I were driving down to interstate

You're on a motorcycle. He's in a car. Yes with with other people and then you were all in Kawasaki's, weren't you?

All motorcycles

No, he was in a car with other people and I was on my motorcycle

And we're going down to interstate. We're probably going 120 130 whatever. Okay

And a lady pulls out in front of him. We're in a fast lane lady pulls out from the group of cars and cuts him off

He slams on his brakes swerves back and forth

The side of the car the back of the car hit my bike

The bike went into the ditch went over through and ended up into a parking lot

so

Where did you go?

Into the parking lot on the bike still on the bike and I oh I got knocked off by a tree branch or something

Got some road rash nothing really bad at all

But I didn't notice that the car was flipped over and that's all I seen that's the I know cops are everywhere. I don't remember much

um and um

The cop interviews me or whatnot and says hey, what happened? I told him, you know, we weren't racing

We were just going somewhere, you know, we're we were we were doing nothing wrong besides speeding

and then um

So I make my statement to the cop. I so I stayed right there

I never went back to the scene because it was quite far away probably about two two blocks three blocks

uh in a way and and I was over another side of the ditch

And uh, so the cop did interview with me and I you know did all that stuff and then I had my uncle come picked the bike up with me

And they let me go six months later. I have SWAT team at my house

two different um

Douglas County and Sarpy County where we live

Um, they had all their SWAT team come not just doing a wellness check just door to door make sure

Yeah, there was uh, there was 10 of them and they were in my back door front door, you know all over the place

And he's like we just want to talk to you. I was like, I don't think so shut my door again

And then next day, I know the whole house is full of people and it takes quite a few of them to get me down

And then uh like jay-z said you're gonna need a warrant for that. Yeah, and then uh, I end up in jail for a week and a half

Hmm. Yeah, and then they end up dropping the charges down because they saw that I did leave a statement

I never left the scene, you know willingly. It's not like I just left and ran the scene

Right, so they end up dropping this the charges down to an evict or attempted to leave the scene

Which is still three years probation

Well, dude, let's face it. Let's everybody out there listening probably not like like advice

But if you make some friends in jail, it ain't that bad

Like a week two weeks three weeks holding a month a holding cell is way different than jail

Yeah, holding cells with 20 people and you only have one bathroom

And you share a meal that they bring you every day and jail jail jail is not that bad

And if you're not awake, they they take your meals and everything just gotta make like friends

Yeah, yeah, no people and they call our jail bedrock because they don't give you any beds. You sleep on the concrete

Ew really good

Yeah, he does look like he's a friendly type skier

All right, I can't beat that like anything I say

Really, yeah swat team is pretty good

He was in the Cherokee with the Dayton's

Trafficking half a key

The dog alerted

I once had an individual townway that he's just a truck driver

He's just a truck driver. Oh, yeah, by the way, I'm the driver. I don't know if you guys know that or not

That's my other name the driver

You can't

So I had

Individual told me he was just

That's a bad motherfucker right there. He seems like it. It doesn't matter

Yeah, so what we might burn bridges with people if you hurt our people, you know what I mean

We burned some bridges this year. So

Like don't don't come at me tell me he's a truck driver because that's a dude right there or anything about any of us

Like if you called him

Three months from now saying I got a flat tire that motherfucker right there drive. Oh, I believe it

What would you do if like say somebody ran out of gas?

No, fuck you because you deserve it. You run out of gas every week

You don't get you don't get picked up

No, now, what would you say if somebody was like, uh, it's like the national championship game

And there's like nobody I care about it's still three. What about we go to the strip club?

Oh, dammit. Well, my son just blew something in his Mercedes and he calls rick and rick hasn't come over

She has to rephrase that

Just say it. No, no, it's probably fitting. It's fine either way. So her son's got her son's got her

I've known since since he was three good, dude

Last five years he's been bouncing around trying to figure out what he wants to do find himself

Yeah, and now he's he's working for me. Yep. It's all good

He's one of the three amigos and uh

Was that last sunday or cup sunday? He was polishing bolts and he has this straight line

He just comes home like

He tries he he calls me and he bought a little Mercedes and

Um, he goes

I'm dead in the neighborhood. I go, okay. Well, it's probably your battery or your alternator went went down whatever

Okay, cool. He goes, uh, O'Reilly's gets his shit

That we offer to come get him. He says no, my dad's gonna go help him real quick

So we think nothing of it. He's like, okay, my dad he says grandpa's got it. I said, okay, cool

Well, call me if you need a thing and and we're sitting there watching football and it's like nine o'clock at night and rick texts me

He goes

This guy there's here and i'm fixing his car

I think I texted rick for something. No, I think you called

Skyler

Yes, I called skyline. I was talking to andy on the phone

He didn't he didn't realize until the end that skyler was over

Yeah, and so for four hours rick's taking apart the whole Mercedes amg to get to something

And all nenders on the bottom and you have to remove the whole cooling system the brake the um, the whole the motor

It's behind pretty much. Yeah. I'm pretty much. I mean it's they say it's an eight to nine hour job is what they said on there

It was not fun

I still have cuts from it

Where i'm going with that it was like this is the dude right here. So yeah, we love ricky one in a million, man

It's uh, it's rare to have those type

you gotta do a

The crew sticks together man when you have somebody like that

Well, even at our shop though is the same way though like if I call matt and say hey

I need you to come here

He would any other guys the same way

I mean I've helped numerous guys on their vehicles at home

When I have definitely way more stuff to do because I have kids and a wife and they don't have none of that

And um, they're like, hey, can you help me with this? I'm like, yeah, sure. You know, whatever and they're at each other's houses too

Helping yeah, yeah helping each other

We'll stay after after hours sometimes and you know, I've got I had my exhaust kept put on my 62

Me andy and eric stayed late and did that one night. I'm gonna do a youtube video on that

We do the same thing here. I mean jeremy jeremy will just call me sometimes. You like you just want to let

I'm gonna give you a few words of affirmation. I'm gonna tell you

You're doing a really good job

I really like you

I value our friendship

You do that all the time. I I just show that through my actions

I don't vocalize you send him a picture of a fat bitch breaking her back on a balance beam

Did you see the one by titanic yet? What's that? Did you see the one about titanic? That's how that's how it sunk

Well, it was a 500 pound fat chick that jumped off. I haven't seen that. Oh, that's a new way

I want to

Turtle turtle hit my feed. No one one last thing here because your boy Noah

Yeah, he's doing a chassis for me. Yeah, I'm finally doing a car on your 60 61 62. Yeah, finally doing a car for me

Not every but it's my car

I don't care if you like it or not. It's my car

rick's a 62 as well

And we're trying to talk him into a chassis, so okay

Oh, you need to talk to someone. I was looking for your scratch a dent pile

We can hook it up

We can hook it up. Yeah, did you have one that's been dropped?

Just go push it off the forklift. You throw the cam on the ground

You're paying full price regardless. Why wouldn't you want just a new one?

I just take a nice one

I mean we want to take a ball peeing hammer to it or something like that's fine

Whatever you're into I'm looking for character

Oh, man, everybody has been absolutely fucking amazing. This has been a trip if uh, yeah, it is

First of all to everybody here the entire cow crew

Now I can see the family that you guys keep talking about. It's a family. You've changed things. You're in the shop. You're working

I mean hats off to you for taking having the balls to do that

Same thing anybody that's still listening to this point

And hats off to you if you stuff you've had if you've hung in here

You're a till now you might be part of the family. Yeah, it's a call in you get a golden ticket award

It might be a t-shirt giveaway for you. Call me and I'll get you a t-shirt. Call me speaking of t-shirts

Full segue. We're wrapping this thing up. We're bringing it all the way back to the beginning

I know we gave eric black a lot of shit at the beginning, right? That's because I'm jealous, right?

He's super talented super cool. I still don't believe it's real, but he's super fucking cool

We this year if you pay attention to the to the oil and whiskey

Channels we had we were doing something new with our with our merch stuff with the oil and whiskey merch. We're

We're having uh several different artists in the industry do some very limited edition

Uh t-shirt designs, right? So we have a bitch in designs. We have uh jeremy senor from lucky strike that's working on one

Eric black is doing an oil and whiskey designed shirt was

No, he's he signed a diddy

He pinkie swore he pinkie swore. So he's that's

That thing's gonna be pink with a bow tie on it. I didn't say what it was. It just is gonna be so anyway these we

There's a lot of these artists that are out there that

Uh, don't get the recognition that they deserve that a lot of talented individuals as talented as they are a lot of talented individuals

And the customers that pay the bills to get some of these stuff built get all the recognition

So we're doing something a little special. They're very very very limited small run of these t-shirts never to be done again

We gave them absolutely zero direction and just said

Do an oil and whiskey shirt. So all these shirts are going to be in the very

Obvious design of whatever that artists, uh, that style is so that stuff's coming

Keep an eye out for it. We may or may not have an air black one depending on

If this one's gonna air well, hey here here, I want to say one last thing. So

We started the whole podcast with Roddy. Yeah, and I just want to thank you guys because

That is literally the most badass chassis to date in hot river history. Well, thank you, man

And we gave you no

There was there was no like arms strengths no nothing and you guys ran with that

You you you turn Noah loose

And uh, I can't thank you enough and Noah's super talented. I know we're all friends and don't want to sell him sappy or nothing

But guys, no, I thank you and I appreciate it and I appreciate you giving us the opportunity and and

honestly

Noah deserves a fucking round of applause man because he yeah, and curtain absolutely ripped it and Curtis building

Yeah, Curtis building it 100% Tim's assembling it right now

It's it's a hell of a crew and and the guys they absolutely love it

And it's pushing the envelope like that is something that I can't I don't think that's a envelope. That's like

That's the whole mail truck

Right, so seriously like on a different level like like I just want to thank you guys because like thank you man

Everybody in this deal is trying to push the envelope

And then there's like a thing downstairs sitting there. That's like on another freaking level

Like like

I've come from the hardware industry and uh, I've seen the most badass to badass shit. So

When we came here today and you guys were texting me pictures and whatnot and then and then we show up and this thing is like

It's it's not even we're we're 20 years from now

Seriously like this thing

You guys already said it like you build production chassis

Then you do something like this and then and then you're building this chassis. That's like we've never never even touched anything like this

Well, I mean we really we truly from the bottom of our heart really appreciate it

As much credit as the road to shop deserves as much credit as Noah for the complete, you know

No holds bar design

No guardrails just do you let let your brain go fucking wild and he did and it that's the result of it

Curtis

Everybody else in the fabrication shop tim assembling it all that's it's fucking awesome. We can't we can't thank you enough

however, it takes you and

Your customer that says

I want to do something fucking crazy right because if it was just

If it was just Noah if it was just road to shop if it was just Curtis if it's just Tim if it's just this

Like we're ready to do cool shit

We're not going to do that and be like guess what we just did

We built this fucking crazy ass chassis waiting for the next customer that's ready to do it

We it it's it's a symbiotic relationship. It takes everybody it takes you it takes the relationship that you've built

With the customer right it takes the customer that says, you know what I want to do something different

It really does man. I mean number one we knew what the assignment was when you came to us

It's it's a fucking honor dude for

The stuff you've built. I mean looking at like the 44 and the the chassis work on that. I mean, it's

It's humbling and it's it's an honor to be given that opportunity to do it

To josh's point like we met travis at

The rs the best on rs party. He's a cool. Yeah solid guy

And he's a fun guy

Those are the kind of things that it's like you want to push push push

To do but it takes travis is to say

All right, I see what you're saying, but what about this or what about the neck? No

We're so grateful for travis to pull that's the like pull the

Pull the picture out that you're keeping in the top pocket that that you're saying is not for me

I want to see the picture that's not for me. That's the one I want

So I really feel like like we're sitting here

And yeah, we've had some drinks but whatnot, but like travis is the shit and we're building this

We'll call me what not

Like this is history breaking right here. There's there's not a chassis to date and that's you guys

Well, then we're not not a chassis to date that's been built like this, right, but we're grateful that travis

Will come to us and say dude, I want something bad ass here

Get push it to the next level

Let's see what you can do and not be like nickle and dimus and be a jerk about what are you know your artistic spin

Like some clients can do to you, you know, like he's totally on board

He wants something cool and he trusts andy to you guys to do it and he does the right whole team together

When we've got to build something for you guys, it's everybody's stepping up and there's a lot of ball busting and joking

You know screwing around back and forth, but like it's all love this has got to be like

The best of the best and I don't know

It's just been insanely geeked out over like researching everything the amount of stuff that he's looked into

Because he doesn't want to let you guys down. He knows what you've built. He knows what this car is going to be

All of us do so it's

You know, it's overwhelming at first everyone's it's been a little bit

I don't say

That's where like you overwhelmed. This is a huge fucking deal. We can't do it. Okay. There's the challenge now

We go ahead and do it and take it to the next level and then it turns into something just insane

And seeing Noah's passion. Yeah, that's awesome. I'm gonna be sure Travis knows when you sent me the text

He is to do it and it was like crying

Yeah, he was over the the ability to work on this thing. Yeah, like

This is like a once-in-a-lifetime project for him and

That's what we're all about. Good people doing good things. We've done some cars that

I'm very proud of

And this is on another level

And and I want to thank you guys because we gave you the reins to just go where you want to go

Yes, good team. Yeah, I couldn't do it without everybody involved. That's for sure. I'm absolutely fucking honored

I mean huge huge fan everything you guys built wildly impressed with everything and can't wait to see

What you turn this into really appreciate it Andy appreciate everybody from Calado appreciate it Travis

This is gonna be awesome

We'll see you uh

Here shortly somewhere

We'll be making surprise stops surprise visits. Yep. We'll see you all we'll see you all again next week

You

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