Auto Correct | Safety Assist System Calibrations w/ Mechanic Shane Martin

We have got a guest in so let me just let me set it all up because I want to go ahead

and throw him into the conversation.

Today we're talking about safety assist system calibrations with mechanic Shane Martin.

Shane Martin is in with us today, you know, and it's really amazing how Shane got this

far and how we got back together.

I taught Shane 20 years ago.

That's, I want to, I want to hear the story, Shane.

How was he as a teacher?

He was great.

You know, one of the things that always keep with me is him inspiring me to use this as

a career or something that I could feed my family with for, you know, the rest of my life.

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And the reason is because we have got a guest in.

So let me just let me set it all up because I want to go ahead and throw him into the

conversation today.

We're talking about safety assist system calibrations with mechanic Shane Martin.

Our email address for questions is auto at MPB online.org.

The phone number is 1-877-MPB-RING.

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OK, Shane, welcome to auto correct.

First off, thank you for having me.

Thank you so much for coming on with this.

Now, I usually do a write up and let me tell you something about safety assist system

calibrations.

I know nothing.

Well, that's pretty much commonplace, right?

So here's here's my description of what it is.

Safety assist system calibrations is the crucial process of precisely aligning a vehicle's

cameras, radars and sensors to ensure features like automatic braking, lane keeping and adaptive

cruise control work accurately, typically needed after accidents, windshield replacements,

wheel alignments or any component changes that affect sensor positioning.

And without it, systems can misread the road leading to malfunctions, false alerts or

failure to activate when needed, compromising driver safety.

I did not understand any of that, coach, but I know you did.

I do know that is a mouthful, all that at one time.

You know, I was thinking, you know, Shane Martin's in with us today, you know, and it's

really amazing how Shane got this far and how we got back together.

I taught Shane 20 years ago.

That's I want to I want to hear the story, Shane.

How was he as a teacher?

He was great.

You know, one of the things that I always keep with me is him inspiring me to use this

as a career, something that I could feed my family with for, you know, the rest of my

life, just buckle in and figure out how cars work and how these systems work and make it

work for you.

I would love I would have loved to have him as a shop teacher.

I mean, like mechanic shop for sure.

Yeah, he was great.

We were always fixing the other instructors cars, you know, some of the other classes

and stuff.

So we did that hand in hand and it gave me a knack for this.

So yeah, I really appreciate it.

Yeah.

Coach, let everybody know what Shane does.

Where where he works, where he's from, all of that good stuff.

Shane now works for ATE is automotive technology experts.

And it's a part of crash champions.

He works at a body shop, but he was at 15 years at Honda Acura.

OK, that's where he cut his teeth in really doing vehicles and all.

But then he changed over to a more technology part of the car.

And that's, you know, when we when we think about technology for the safety assist

systems, well, we just think we get in them, you know, we always had this thing

with that camera in the back of the car that goes out all the time.

You know, well, Shane is the one that can now calibrate those.

And it's after a collision is when he works and gets calibrated.

OK, OK.

And let's let's go through it.

I want to know how to calibrate these safety assist systems.

Well, just tell us a little bit, Shane, what do you think?

So basically, it was like Jermaine said in the opening,

you're basically just going to get a center line of the vehicle.

And all of the manufacturers have, you know, prescribed specifications

on a certain distance to one side or the other to the front of the car

to the back of the car and there's different ways of measuring it.

So you're going to be using targets for the radars.

It's often a trihedral cone or a Doppler box that sends out a signal

to the radars to say, hey, I'm right here.

And that's how it's calibrated.

If you put it in the right spot, the manufacturers have designed

a certain distance from the car.

And as as you put it up, you use the scan tool to basically say, OK,

go into calibration mode, see what you're supposed to be seeing.

And this is where it's at.

And that's how accidents and, you know, minor fender benders

even can affect stuff like that.

So it's always imperative that you have those systems aimed after a collision.

That's what I was going to ask.

So the importance of calibrating and why?

Well, you know, once again, if you think about he mentioned the first thing,

the scan tool, OK, the scan tool is a big part of our automobile systems.

Now that you had to have a scan tool in order to work on them anymore,

you know, especially when you're doing calibrations, because like I say,

you can't keep all those numbers in your head constantly.

So the scan tool is loaded with all that software in order

so they can go back and look at that, you know, in order to make sure.

You know, I was thinking, Shane, on a collision, OK, you said even a small

fender bender or a large fender bender, you know, changes the way, you know,

a lot of people say, well, my fender is just barely bent.

I can don't have it fixed.

Well, that's also a mounting point for where the bumper attaches to the vehicle.

And a lot of these newer cars, the radars are integrated to the grill or the emblem.

So if you were to adjust the mounting point of the bumper,

but IE the fender being bent or, you know, pushed back or pushed forward

that would affect the angle that the radar is more or less shining down the road.

Just imagine like a flashlight.

If you skew that flashlight to one side or the other, it's going to be looking left.

It's going to be looking right.

And that's why it's imperative after these collisions to have them aimed

the proper direction.

OK, you know, because there's so many people that, you know,

they just take the insurance money and they don't get them fixed.

And they say, well, there's nothing wrong with my cars.

It's OK. But yet there is really not OK.

That is absolutely correct.

I've been in vehicles mostly in my Acura and Honda experience

that were not calibrated correctly and they will alert you or some of them

that are designed to collision mitigation, maybe pull you back into your lane.

So if it thinks that you're in the lane and you're not in the lane,

it would give the wrong inputs and maybe even put you off the side of the road.

Oh, OK, we've heard jeeps going off the side of the road,

but that was that was a software issue as well.

But, you know, as you start, as you start getting into this calibration,

what got you into doing the calibrations of the vehicle?

Well, it's one of those things that at the dealer level,

not everybody understands it or has the want to understand it.

So as I was elevated into the position of shop form,

and I kind of was the person that handled most of those things.

So and it really interested me to see how some of the radars have more range

or less range than the others.

And as, you know, the cars are getting newer and newer,

the technology is getting more and more.

They're able to see farther and do more.

So it really becomes more precise.

You know, we measure in millimeters or so.

You might be thirty six hundred millimeters from the front of the car.

That matters.

If you're doing it thirty seven hundred millimeters from the front of the car,

it would be incorrect and it would be giving the car the wrong calibrations.

My wife has a HRV twenty three model HRV Honda and the vehicle.

As you can say, it will change of adapted crews.

I can get I can change how far it reads before it starts slowing down

and how close I can get before it starts slowing down.

Typically indicated by bars in the front of the in front of the car on your steering wheel.

OK, so I've sort of like mine being further away, personally,

because I like to be where I can get to have a pretty good space before.

You know, as you as you were talking about calibration and

what are some of the things that you come up with that maybe

that's not a everyday thing in calibrations?

Man, I've seen it all.

I've seen windshields put in that were,

you know, the triangle in the glass not be cut right

to where it's not seeing anything run into all sorts of different things.

But that's that's when you'll know this car is not calibrated or

that there's something wrong with maybe the installation or a part

is when the calibration fails.

And that's when you start investigating some of the things that you wouldn't

necessarily think of. So let me ask you a question.

And you brought this to my mind, think about a windshield.

OK, a lot of people go get windshields in many different places.

You know, and each of one of those windshields

in these newer vehicles has to be calibrated in order to for the vehicle

to see what it needs to see, right? Correct.

And now what if somebody got a windshield

that was not really up to the specifications of what that car was supposed to

just got him a windshield, went to the cheapest place, got a windshield,

no calibration, no nothing just got it stuck in.

What does the insurance how would that affect insurance on that?

Do you know? I don't know if it would affect

directly affect insurance, but I mean, these insurance companies,

like if you were to do a claim with your insurance company

to have the windshield replaced, they are they would be held liable

if you didn't get the calibration done at that point.

Now, if they just wrote you a check or something that was up to you,

I would imagine that would probably be on you.

I haven't run into that instant,

instance specifically, but I know, like I was saying earlier,

my experience at Acura has taught me

I've seen cars with windshields put in that would have you

probably two feet over the line on one side or the other.

You're going down the road and you set the lane keeping assist system

and it literally holds you right on top of the line.

Right. You could see immediately where that would be dangerous.

But even systems that are designed to make adjustments

to the steering or the braking or anything like that.

It would further compound the safety issues.

You know, I was thinking my wife's car likes to, you know, it says,

I reckon I can't drive a straight line.

I sort of move over every now and then to the left and the right next.

I know I feel it in my steering wheel, moving me back over, you know,

it's called haptic feedback, haptic feedback.

OK, well exactly how does that car know that I'm over that line?

Is it just because of the calibration to how far in millimeters

it's supposed to go or what what is reading that me going on that line?

So the lane keeping assist is done by the windshield camera.

Now, some of them integrate the radars as well for distance measurements.

But typically your lane keeping is a camera mounted in the windshield

or some vehicles rarely mounted in the grill, things like that.

But yeah, lane keeping is camera.

So it would be windshield or and, you know, further into this,

even some of the manufacturer's statements will tell you

if the car had structural body damage, right?

Even if it was in the back of the car, you need to aim the windshield.

You need to aim the radar, such as GM Honda.

They all have position statements.

Specifically regarding what needs to be done.

In the case of a structural body repair, you know, I was thinking

what alignment have anything to do with the way that my vehicle is

absolutely doing it that way.

Service information will also tell you the vehicle needs an alignment or

just because of thrust angle and thrust angle just being

is the car traveling straight down the road from emblem in the front

to emblem in the back is the car going straight down the road.

So if it's dog tracking or, you know, moving down the road sideways,

that camera is now pointing off to one side or the other.

That radar is now pointing off from one side or the other.

And it doesn't have the ability to discern, hey, the car's not going straight.

It just knows what it should be seeing.

And it interprets the data that it is seeing.

And that's where you get incorrect.

Manipulations to the steering or the braking, which could cause safety issues.

You know, I was thinking something, you know, a lot of people ain't heard

that word dog tracking and where that word came from is that you would

18 would be driving down the highway and you would see its trailer

not straight with the tractor.

And that's what when I used to work on 18 wheelers all the time,

that's what we'd call dog tracking.

OK, so if that vehicle is running sideways, not straight down the road,

like you're saying, I think that

the safety concern that the collision people have, along with the insurance,

is that they had to have people that really know what they're doing.

Because if they're off just a little bit, then that causes a problem

with the whole way of the vehicle running, really. Absolutely.

You know, and now a lot of those, they got different modules

and different cameras and different radar systems in there.

What type of new stuff is coming on the line?

And I know since you've been in Acura and you're doing now,

what kind of new stuff do you see coming up on the line?

Well, we all know Tesla has

semi-autonomous driving modes.

And that's what they're.

That's what all of the manufacturers are trying to get to is.

I think it's called level three autonomous driving.

I think we're at two right now.

As far as Tesla's go, some of these Brivians and stuff like that.

The latest thing that I've dealt with was I think it was Monday.

I did a night vision calibration on a Jeep Grand Cherokee,

which is the first night vision that I've seen.

But it's really cool.

It's designed to at night when you're driving down like a country road,

you might not see that possum or that dog or that deer from as far away

as you would with the night vision.

It's basically thermal imaging on the dash.

So it's just things like that.

I mean, they are trying to find every way to make the driving experience more safe.

Well, what do you think about this has to do with calibration?

And what are these vehicles supposed to drive?

Way more. That's a car in California that's autonomous car.

And it's been in the news the last couple of days of having wrecks

and running in each other because they don't know where to go.

So what is the what do you think would be the cause?

They just don't know where to go.

They're hitting each other.

They're stopping and running the school bus.

The stop sign on the school bus.

They're running the school bus stops.

I saw that they had a whole like it was a congestion

that happened somewhere in Cali or something like that.

Yeah. And just running the school bus stop sign.

Well, I'm not particularly familiar with that vehicle or how it's set up.

But I imagine it's covered in cameras and and radars on every corner.

OK. And things like that.

So I would assume the GPS link and what it's seeing

just told it the wrong yes or no.

It was like four of them with the wrong yes or no.

There was a whole heap of them together like they all met up and just said we're stuck.

Yeah, we're stuck.

Listen, we're going to get into some more safety

assist system calibrations with mechanic Shane Martin.

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Before we go to the phone lines and before we get back

to safety assist system calibrations, we've got some recent recalls.

Coach coming up first on the list.

It's seventy two thousand five hundred Ram trucks have been recalled for instrument

clusters affected vehicle includes model year twenty five to twenty six Ram

fifteen hundreds twenty five hundreds thirty five hundreds forty five

hundreds and the fifty five hundreds.

A software error may cause the instrument panel cluster to be blank,

increasing the risk of a crash and preventing drivers from seeing important

information such as warning lights and gear selection.

Now to fix this issue, dealers are inspecting and updating the instrument

panel software or replacing the instrument panel cluster as necessary for free.

Well, you know, I've had to change a couple of those instrument panel clusters

in there. Really, they say, well, the module you're really the module itself

on a lot of these vehicles now are made into the instrument panel itself.

Yeah. And so, you know, when you get in there, you know, as long as it's under

warranty, you're good. But if it's not under warranty, it's going to cost you a

pretty penny and you better find somewhere that to get a good used one.

Yeah. If that's the case, it can be programmed.

If that's the case, you just got it.

Like my daddy said, when my gas hand broke, you need to figure out how many miles

you can go. That's all you got to do.

So how many miles you went until you got empty?

That's right. You got to figure it out.

That's right. All right. And finally, in recall news, Ford has recalled

108,000 plus escape SUVs for liftgate hinge covers.

This includes model year 2020 to 22 and 25 escapes.

The liftgate hinge covers may not have been fully engaged or adhered during

vehicle assembly and made detached from the vehicle, creating a road hazard

and increasing the risk of a crash. Here's the thing about this one, though.

I said model year 2020 to 2022 and 2025.

So 23 and 24, they did right.

And then somebody's hand slipped, come up this year.

Well, the engineers said, well, you know, we're fixing them too good.

We're making them. We've got to change something, you know, they got it right

for two years and then it was like, no more.

All right. To fix it, dealers are replacing any missing liftgate hinge

covers or inspecting and reinstalling them as necessary for free.

Letters will be mailed out for this January 15th, 2026.

If you want to find out if your car has a past or recall, you can go to the

National Highway Traffic Safety Administration's website in htsa.gov

forward slash recalls and inputting your VIN number or you can find their safer

car app. Today, we're talking about safety assist system

calibrations with mechanic Shane Martin.

We're also taking your vehicle repair questions.

Our email address is auto at mpbonline.org or you could just give us a call

just like Edward did in Meridian.

That's 1-877-MPB-RING-1877-672-7464.

Let's go to Edward and Meridian.

Edward, you are on with coach Charlie and Shane Martin.

Okay, coach Charlie, I've got a problem with a Ford Maverick Hybrid

2023. I think if they computer glitch, you probably can't help me with this,

but it's so random that every once in a while, you go get ready to start and

it tells me shift failure and it will not, you can put it in gear, but it just

blinks down there the way you put it in gear and it says system failure.

The motor will run, they let you in the gasoline, but it won't go into gear.

By the time you call for a roadside assistance and get a tow truck, the truck

will be running fast. So if you take it into the dealer, they say they can't fix it

because it's not broke, basically. When it's broke, they make and fix it.

I always think about that. I understand where you're coming from in 2023.

It's still under warranty and they say they can't fix it till it breaks.

I understand that, but this is where you need to be a little assertive with the dealership.

First of all, they need to give you a loaner vehicle. Go ahead and tell them that you need

a renter vehicle and that your vehicle is doing this and it's been doing it for a while and you've

already taken it in and they say they can't fix it till it breaks. If the dealership will not

help you on that situation, you need to call customer service, customer relationships,

and they will get that fixed for you and you will get a loaner car. You need to be assertive here,

you can get a loaner car, and you can leave your vehicle there as long as it takes

to get that vehicle fixed. It may not happen until a week from now. It might go a week.

Well, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. You leave that vehicle at the dealership,

make them give you a renter car, and they will fix that car. They'll bring somebody down from

Honda or, I mean, from Ford and they will get that vehicle fixed, but you've got to be assertive

and call customer relations. Don't even deal with a dealership at the moment.

Customer relations, okay. Yeah, look in the back of the owner's manual,

and the back of the owner's manual will have that to customer relations. Call them on the phone,

tell them what's happening, and tell them that it's happened randomly, that it doesn't happen

all the time, and they will take care of that, especially if it's done to warranty, and you

can get that renter car from them. One thing I will say is try to figure out any conditions that

are surrounding when it happens. The more you can give them, the better it is for them to try to

figure it out. And what comes to mind on it won't shift out of park is, okay, is the brake light

switch malfunctioning? Does it not see that you're pushing the brake lights or the brake pedal?

Go ahead. Well, it's acting. It's so random. Yesterday morning, it wouldn't go. I went in the

house and did something 30 minutes later. It's going. I mean, it's not like it's anything physical.

It's got to be in the computer somewhere. No, it was just like maybe ambient conditions. Is it

raining outside? Is it? No. I can go to the farm and park it two hours late. It won't go. Yeah,

I'm about to call roadside assistance and get a locate. It goes. It's going, you know, maybe 15

minutes late. Yeah, I would go ahead, Edward, I'd go ahead and talk to customer relations,

go ahead and get it over to the dealership, leave it at the dealership, and let them give

you a renter car until they fix your car. You know, I've had, I will tell you, I've had the

dealership manufactured by one of my vehicles back just because of problems like that. They

couldn't fix it and they tried and tried and tried and they never could fix it. And they would,

we went through arbitration and they bought it back. And then the back of the book and your

owner's manager talks about arbitration and everything. Yeah, lemon law and the status,

three unsuccessful repair attempts. So yeah, I love this truck, though. It's the perfect truck

for me. Well, I'll get 42 miles to the gallon. I can haul a thousand pounds of feed on it.

That's what I'm saying. It accelerates well. If I got another truck, I want one just like it,

except for this problem. Well, like I say, they got another one just like it and you can get

them to fix it. So that's right. That's what I would do. That's right. Edward. Check your brake

lights, Edward. See if the brake lights are coming on when it happens. That's the first

piece of advice I could give you. The brake lights. Yeah, just make sure when you push the brake

pedal, the brake lights are coming on. Okay. And then like the dealership, should be able to see

that when they that's one of the things, you know, they test when it doesn't come out.

Yeah, when it doesn't come out of park, that's one of the first things they check. All right.

Edward, thank you. Okay. Thank you. All right. Bye bye. 42 miles to the gallon, though. That's

what I'm talking about. I'm jealous. My truck only gets like 17. That's nice. That is nice. Listen,

if you have an issue with your car, you can give coach and Shane a call right now 877 MPB ring.

That's 1-877-672-7464. Our email address where you can send questions is auto at mpbonline.org.

When we get back from the break, we'll get back into safety assist system calibrations

with mechanic Shane Martin, all in between your car repair questions. What's in the news?

I want to save you some money. Consumer report says these are the best used cars under $20,000.

Can you believe that, coach? Under $20,000. They're doing it today. It's used, but...

You better get it now because they're going up. It's used. It's used, but you can do it.

Consumer reports are giving you this list and I'll tell you more next. Thank you for listening

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at 10 a.m. with the replay Saturdays at 11 a.m. quickly. In the news, Consumer Reports says

these are the best used cars under $20,000. And you can't do that nowadays with anything new.

Not at all. I think you can. Let me just say this one vehicle. Possibly new. I don't know if they

still make it. I guess it's the model. The Chevrolet Sonic? Yeah, or the Spark. Maybe you

could probably get one of those under $20,000. You could get a new Mitsubishi under $20,000.

A new Mitsubishi under $20,000. Okay. And Toyota just launched a budget truck for like $15,000.

What? It's got a bed on it? It's called a Hilux. I'd like to have that sound good. Oh,

no, not a Hilux. It's a little bitty joker. Oh, it's smaller than that. It almost looks like a

car. Like a Japanese little tiny thing. But they are going to bring the Hilux. But it's got a bed,

I haven't seen that. Well, you can't get them in America right now. But that was usually,

that was what the first Toyota was named was a Hilux Toyota. Okay. You know, and now

they're bringing it back. Okay. Okay. It's nice. Is it cheap? It's going to be a lot cheaper than

a big size truck. It's between a medium and a small. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. They're indestructible.

Oh, yeah. What? Yes. Indestructible like in a wreck. You, they don't tear up. No,

they're just good trucks. I'm going to look that up on a break. All right. Here's some of the best

used cars under $20,000. It's a list of 10. So they got the 2019 Toyota Corolla. Would you buy

that used coach? I would. All right. All right. All right. The next one up is the 2018 Mazda CX-5.

Would you buy that used, Shane? I wouldn't. Shane. No, I wouldn't. Not the Mazda. Mazda. No.

Not that. Okay. Okay. I'm just going to take y'all's word for it. I'm not going to ask why.

Is it? Well, maybe I will. Why? They don't have any plaguing problems, but it is a Mazda.

That's what I came out of. It's not plaguing, but yeah. When they took Mazda, you know, Ford used

to be, Mazda used to be part of Ford. Okay. They used Ford parts, Ford everything. The Mazda truck

was really a ranger. Right. They didn't like that no more. Right. That's too funny. Too funny.

Okay. Up next is the 2020 Mazda MX-5 Miata. Coach, would you purchase this one under $20,000 used?

That wouldn't be for me. That's a little sport. That just ain't for me. Yeah. I would purchase it

only because I know that. But that would look like you. You could get the drop top version.

That would look like you. That would not look like me. This is definitely one that I would

purchase. All right. Up next, Shane, we've got the 2018 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid used under $20. Would you

do it? Though I'm a little scared of the hybrid components phasing out. Yes. That was the same

thing. I would be scared of the hybrid components, but I would buy it. Yeah. The battery's probably

the only serviceable part that you would really have to replace. Yeah. On that one. On that one.

Okay. Up next, we've got the 2015 Toyota Tacoma. Coach, it's a pickup. It's under $20,000.

I'm going to tell you, these Toyota trucks, they are just some good trucks. The Tacoma was a good

truck. I saw a 1978 Toyota to pick up SR5. Okay. That sun gun was $18,000. Okay.

It was in 1976. I mean, 96. They were proud. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, I would probably buy it.

It had to be, it had to really look good. Okay. Okay. Okay. All right. Well, that's the list.

And I'll include a link to this story in our show's podcast description today. We are talking about

safety assist system calibrations with mechanic Shane Martin. You can email your questions to

auto at mpbonline.org or you can give us a call. We just got a ring in the number is 1-877-MPB

ring. That's 1-877-672-7464. Coach, before we go to our phone lines again, let's jump back into

safety assist system calibrations with Shane. You know, I was thinking about that. You know,

Shane said he did a night vision. I said, wondering if you could drive around at night with your

lights off in the night vision work. That would be pretty neat. That would be dope.

Yeah. Usually it's all self-encompassed. So it would work. Yeah. So it would work. Yeah.

You know, my being stealthed. Right. That's good stuff. I thought that would be funny.

Okay. Back to the calibrations. You know, on what year did all this calibration that all these safety

systems started really started for the manufacturers? I haven't done specific research, but I'd say

around 0809, some of the top level fully loaded cars were starting to come with front radars.

Then you started kind of seeing cameras more and more. And that's when we really didn't know

anything about them. The technicians didn't know anything about them. They had to send

everybody to school in order to learn how to calibrate. I think when all this new stuff starts

coming, you know, there's technology and as technology comes and it gets better and better,

if we can just layer it on top of each other and it works better. And you know, from you leaving

Accra to coming to where you're at now doing the calibration, what type of transition was that for

you? Well, you know, Acura's, I don't mean to bash my product, but it's a it's a badged Honda.

It is a Honda to its core. So it's kind of an economy. You know, not as not as loaded as some

of these other brands like now I'm getting into Mercedes, which may have a total of 12 radars

on the car. Some of them use two cameras in the windshield as opposed to one that gives you

kind of like your eyesight. You close one eye, you can't really see the depth perception. Well,

if you add that other eye, you really can tell what's out there. So now you're having to do some

matching and making sure they're together now. Yeah, or as opposed to aiming one radar on the

front of the car, you might have to offset it to one side, aim this camera offset it, aim this

camera or multiple radars, which there's a lot of dynamic calibrations as well. These cars have

the ability for you to just put it in calibration mode, drive down the road. It sees the stop signs,

it sees the other cars, it sees the metallic objects and determines its environment. And that's

how it calibrates. And like I say, it's all over the place. You know, for listeners, I like you to

explain something you said earlier, I know what you're talking about. But most of our viewers

probably don't know what you're talking about when you say targets, when you're calibrating,

what are you talking about when you talk about targets? So targets is something that the car

can see to know exactly where it is. Anything visual like the cameras are going to be,

it looks like an actual bullseye typically. It's a combination of white and black.

Looks like a bullseye and they're kind of be segmented. A lot of the AVM cameras are a brown

view monitor. So when you put your car in reverse and it gives you that bird's eye image, it's because

you have cameras on all four corners of the car. So typically, those are going to be the same way

with the black and white patterns, the windshield cameras, black and white patterns, a lot of the

backup cameras. So for radars, you're going to be looking for a metallic object. Or like I was

telling you, the night vision has a heated target. So it just it's this X up on a stand that you push

the button and it heats up. And that's what the night vision sees and says, okay, there's the center

of where it's supposed to be. And it basically centers that camera image. The radars is a

trihedral cone. It's just made of metal. So where the radar can pick up that it's pinging that metal

and saying, okay, it's this far out. Remember that. And that's what, you know, where I remember

targets from, I knew that you had to do that same thing. It's just like if you were adjusting

headlights, if you're doing alignments, we have targets, you know, and a lot of just consumer

don't really know what you're really talking about when you talk about targets. But now they do

because you just gave them a good definition. Yeah, my van is full of probably, I couldn't

even tell you probably $40,000 in targets is full of all these different brands targets.

And so when you start talking about calibrations, you start talking about different things and the

technology, a consumer really needs to know what they're talking about. So they're able to ask

questions, right? Because you know, if they don't know what they're talking about, what you're

talking about as an individual, they don't have the questions to ask to make sure their vehicle

is fixed correctly. Yeah. I mean, a lot of people are just used to going, oh, man, I got a crack in

my windshield. I got to go get it replaced. Hey, I need you to put a windshield in. And if those

people were to never tell you that it needs to be calibrated, you would never know. Wow. Wow. So

and a lot of them are good about it. I'm not trying to bash your body. Like I say, as a consumer,

we need to know that what people are doing to our vehicle. So we don't get ripped off that

we're paying for what we get. Yeah. Yeah. Or we don't, you know, get an issue with like,

I've had to bring my win my car back for the windshield to be calibrated because they forgot

to calibrate. So yeah, let's go to the phone lines, though, coach. We've got Carl and Natchez.

He's got a drum break question. Carl, you're on with coach Charlie and Shane Martin.

Oh, yes, sir. We have an older car that we were trying to restore. I just want to know if you

know, you know, if they have any new technology or new material they're using for drum breaks,

for manual drum breaks. Well, you know, drum breaks were really been the same since the

beginning of time. You know, you've got different levels of drum breaks, a different material if

they're using a surrounding material. They're using organic material in the pad itself of the

lining that's on the shoe itself. So as a new technology of the type of material, probably

not at all, because like I said, we're using semi-metallic, ceramic or organic. Those are your

three types. And you know, really, I can see you're working on older car because it has a

carburetor as well, that you had to be careful about those drum breaks because of the asbestos

and the brake dust creating asbestos dust at those certain vehicles. And they have did away with the

asbestos in those lining material now. So you don't have to worry about that. But used to,

we had to worry about them all the time. Okay, also, do you know if they make any type of

gadget or whatever, I could put on my exhaust to adjust the carburetor from lean to rich to get it,

you know, to try to get as perfect as I can. You're talking about to read the oxygen

content coming out. You know, vehicles today use sensors in the coming out of the Catholic

converter. They don't usually come out of the muffler and all because it changes a little bit

as it goes through the muffler. But they're reading it off the call it converter itself.

Now, I'm just going to tell you typically on if you had a holy carburetor on that vehicle, run the

screw in the adjustment screws mixture screw all the way in running about one and a half and then

you can tweak it from there. It's usually how you do it. And you can tell when it starts running rich

because the engine will start sputtering and then you take it off a little bit. But as a gadget to

put on there now, I would say an aftermarket wideband. Yeah, you do that. Yeah. All right.

Well, he just dropped up so hopefully it'll help. Just just get you an aftermarket wideband,

put a bung in the exhaust pre cat, any sort of cats, and I'm probably about 18 inches away from

an exhaust port on the engine. And you'll just need a simple 12 volts. That's what I would do.

Well, Carl, I hope that helps. And you can give us a call back though. If you got any more questions,

the number is 1-877-MPB-RING. That's 1-877-672-7464. We're discussing

safety assist system calibrations with mechanic Shane Martin and taking your repair questions.

Send us an email to auto at mpbonline.org because next week it's all email all call.

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You know, as I was sitting here thinking and talking to Shane about the calibrations of

these safety systems on these vehicles, you know, I don't think that you would be able to take your

car just to any body shop today and have it worked on due to the calibrations that need to be done.

So take your car to somebody reliable, take it to ATE, crash champions, take it over there and let

them, if you have a problem, take it over there and let them check it out and just be careful that

wherever you take it, if you're a collision, that they do it correctly. And I think that Shane

Martin here can always lead you in the right direction on that. Shane, what would you call

regular calibration intervals?

When they should be checked. Yeah, like when like, you know, every three, every six.

Well, that's the thing that there's not necessarily a schedule for. Okay. It's only

when you would be removing or installing a part. Now there is some taboo in the industry and I

follow some Facebook groups and people have differing opinions. There's actually been some

studies done, some of the earlier cars that had the radars or whatever have kind of deteriorated.

When they go back to check them and test their effectiveness, they've actually lost

effectiveness and have to be recalibrated. So there's no specification, but anything

manmade can be man manipulated. So I wouldn't say, I wouldn't say every three years, six years,

10 years. I would just say if it's given you any sort of any sort of unexpected feedback,

that's when I would check the calibration. Well, it's acting wonky. You know, when he talks about

that feedback, we're talking about that check engine light coming on once again. You know,

and like I say, I just got to get back to that check engine light just a second because it couldn't

just be something else, just the engine sometime. It could be other things because they have

different systems in that vehicle's computer. And as it reads those computers, as it scans that

computer every day, every time you cut that key on automatically it goes through a scan.

If it sees something wrong, that check engine light is going to come on. And so many people

ride around with it just own. They don't even know what's wrong with their car and there could

be something wrong with the car. You know, somebody said, well, the cruise control don't work. Well,

there's a reason the cruise control don't work. It may be that radar, it may be a simple sensor,

you know, it may be the brake light, you know, won't go out of park, you know, and so

doing calibrations on safety systems. It sounds like brain surgery a little bit.

I think it is. Is that right, Shane? You're a brain surgeon of the car. You know, the thing is,

he told me when he got in here that because I asked him about the transition, he goes, well,

it makes me use my brain, makes me think all the time. It's just not one brand, you know,

it's just like anything else. If you're working on it and you're used to one thing, you get good

at it. But then you've got to take and widen your horizon to get better at what you're doing.

Right. I think it's mostly just the collision repair side of it. You're never going to have

this. You can't duplicate the same wreck. You can't duplicate the same force that the car

experienced. I mean, so it's always based on inspection and we're in the business of making

sure that it's perfect. We're not going to, it's not ever a good enough. It has to be to the millimeter

perfect for me to put my name on it and say, I'm going to put you and your wife and your kids in

the backseat and let y'all go down the road. Oh, I like that where he says he wouldn't put his name

on it if it's not right. If it's not perfectly calibrated. It's not calibrated that it comes back

on him, comes back on to the company. Legally. So when you think about crash champions, hey,

this is a crash champion guy. I believe it. Now look, I know Shane is one of the top calibrators

probably in the state, but when it comes down to just us regular people shopping for professional

calibration services, how do we know when we've made it to a place where they're going to do it?

Right, Shane, like you. Well, there's a lot of companies out there that do this. A lot of them

don't have the same standards that we do. We were required to include service information in every

job that we do. We're required to prove when it needs it, when it doesn't need it. So then we

need to be looking for those details. So I'm thinking that I think we are the pinnacle of

of ADOS calibrations. You know, we used to have their calls still today. Shade,

shade tree mechanics. Well, I don't think I'd take my car to Joe down the road and tell him to

calibrate because I may run it. Hey, I may have my cruise control on and I'm just

I can hear Joe right now. I'll calibrate that car for you real quick. $20 dollars.

No, Shane is the real deal. Shane, I got to thank you for joining us today on AutoCorrect.

Well, thank you guys for having me. It's been an eye opener. He is the brain surgeon of vehicles.

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