Ayrton Senna was a famous Formula 1 race driver from Brazil. He won the world championship three times and is widely considered one of the greatest drivers ever, known for being extremely focused and skilled behind the wheel.
James Hunt was a famous Formula One race driver from the UK. He won the World Championship in the 1970s and was known for being a bit wild and unpredictable.
“Lewis” here means Lewis Hamilton, a top Formula 1 driver from Britain. The speaker is comparing how Hamilton’s success made him widely known, similar to how Senna resonated beyond racing.
Michael Schumacher was a German Formula 1 driver and multiple-time world champion, famous for dominating the sport during his peak years. The host uses him as a comparison point for why Senna might travel to America during holidays.
F1 stands for Formula 1, the highest level of car racing with single-seat race cars. The speaker is saying there was less F1 attention in America, so it was easier to live normally on holiday.
F-3000 (Formula 3000) was a single-seater racing series that used standardized engines and was widely seen as a direct path toward Formula 1. In the 1990s it became the main proving ground for up-and-coming drivers and teams.
Roland Ratzenberger was a Formula 1 driver who died in a crash during the 1994 race weekend at Imola. That tragedy helped push major safety changes in F1.
The Volvo XC90 is a larger family SUV. It’s built to carry people comfortably and handle daily driving. It’s often mentioned as a practical, easy-to-live-with vehicle.
The Audi RS6 is Audi’s “serious performance” version of the A6. It’s known for being very quick while still being usable day-to-day, and here they’re talking about the older C5-era RS6 from the early 2000s.
The Citroën 2CV is a small old car made by Citroën. It was designed to be simple and handle everyday roads, even when they weren’t great. People talk about it because it has a very distinctive, quirky character.
The Chevrolet Suburban is a big, comfortable SUV that’s built to carry people and gear easily. It’s also popular because it sits higher, so getting in and out feels easier than in low cars.
Term
longer version of an atom
They’re talking about a bigger/longer version of the Atom, which can change how the seats and space feel. Even if it’s the same basic car, the extra length can affect whether taller people fit comfortably. They’re unsure because they haven’t sat in or driven one.
Car
DS
The Citroën DS is a classic Citroën from the 1950s that looked futuristic for its time. It also used advanced tech, including special suspension and braking systems, which made it feel way ahead of other cars.
Car
CX
The Citroën CX is another Citroën model, from a later era, with a very distinctive futuristic look. The hosts are basically debating whether the CX or the DS looks cooler.
Hydropneumatic suspension uses pressurized fluid and gas to act like the car’s spring and shock absorber. It helps the car stay level and ride smoothly, even when the road or load changes.
Disc brakes stop the car by squeezing pads against a spinning metal disc. They tend to work more consistently than older drum brakes, especially when you brake hard more than once.
Flamino Bertone was a designer who helped create the look of some famous Italian cars. In this clip, the host is saying the DS’s styling came from a serious design talent, not just normal car styling.
“Traction Avant” is a Citroën term for front-wheel drive. That means the front wheels do the work of pulling the car, which can make the car feel different in how it drives.
André Lefèbvre was a key French automotive engineer at Citroën. The host mentions him as part of the engineering team behind the DS’s development, alongside other figures responsible for its advanced design and technology.
An aerodynamicist is someone who focuses on how air moves around a car. That can change how slippery the car feels and how stable it is when you’re going fast.
Car
Citroen GS
The Citroën GS is a classic 1970s Citroën. Here, they’re talking about a special early-70s version that used a rotary engine, which is unusual compared with most cars.
A Wankel (rotary) engine doesn’t use pistons. Instead, it uses a spinning rotor to create power, which is why it feels and sounds different from most engines.
A Wankel engine is a rotary engine. It makes power with a spinning rotor rather than pistons, so it’s a different kind of engine than you’d expect in a normal car.
Most car engines use pistons that move up and down. A rotary engine works differently: it uses a spinning “rotor” to make power. Because it’s a different design, it can have different reliability concerns than a normal engine.
Corrosion is basically rust and metal damage over time. On a car, it can start small but can spread, and fixing it properly usually means more work than just touching up paint. That’s why it can get expensive.
Car
Citroen SM
The Citroën SM is a famous old French luxury sports/grand touring car. It’s remembered for being unusual and technically ambitious for its time. Here, they’re talking about the specific Citroën SM they saw.
Term
pneumatic things
“Pneumatic” means using air pressure. In a car, that often points to suspension parts that use compressed air to help control how the car rides and handles.
The BMW E30 M3 is a famous older BMW performance model. Fans love it because it’s a very engaging, well-balanced car to drive, and it has strong racing roots.
The BMW 3 Series is a mid-size car made by BMW. It’s designed to be comfortable for everyday driving but also fun to drive. People often mention it when talking about classic, important BMW models.
“Delta” refers to a model called the Lancia Delta. It’s a car that’s known for being sporty and having a strong reputation among car enthusiasts. People mention it because it’s more than just a normal everyday car.
Concept
hovercraft
He’s using “hovercraft” as a comparison. He means the car feels very smooth and floaty, like it’s not fully “bouncing” on normal springs.
“425cc” is the size of the engine, measured by how much space the cylinders move. The host is saying a 425cc version of the car is the best mix of simplicity and feel.
A speedometer cable is an older-style mechanical connection that tells the speedometer how fast the car is going. Here, the host is saying some accessories are powered by that same cable movement.
“Group A insurance” is an old way insurers sorted cars into categories. Cars in the same group were priced and insured in a similar way, usually based on risk and how the car was used.
Car
AX GT
The “AX GT” is a Citroën AX GT, a small sporty hatchback. The point here is that even a cheap, compact car can feel really exciting and connected when you drive it.
Topic
F1 Austria
“F1 Austria” means Formula 1 racing in Austria, usually at the Red Bull Ring. They’re bringing it up as part of a racing discussion.
Person
Mr Cooper
“Mr Cooper” is a nickname for a specific person they’re talking about in the F1 context. The transcript doesn’t spell out who, but it’s clearly someone important to the racing story they’re telling.
“Yellow Flag Gate” is an F1 system/rule that’s tied to how drivers must react when a yellow caution is shown. The key point is making sure everyone understands the exact warning being displayed.
In F1, a yellow flag means “caution.” A double-waved yellow is a stronger warning, telling drivers to slow down more and be ready for something dangerous ahead.
Lightboards are electronic boards around the track that show race warnings to drivers. They help drivers instantly understand what kind of caution is happening ahead.
A single yellow is the basic “slow down and be careful” warning in racing. It means there’s a problem somewhere on track, and drivers need to drive cautiously.
Term
triangular flick flak thing
They’re describing a special blinking pattern on the electronic boards. The idea is that the warning can be shown clearly without needing extra boards—just the right flashing sequence.
F2 and F3 are lower-tier racing series that help drivers work their way up toward Formula 1. The host is asking listeners to cheer for British drivers in those series too.
“George” is another Formula 1 driver. They’re saying he was being careful near the end of the race—more about managing the car than going as fast as possible every lap.
A stint is the time you spend on a specific set of tires before you pit again. They’re saying George was careful with how hard he pushed during the final tire period.
Max Verstappen is a top Formula 1 race driver from the Netherlands. Here, they’re talking about why he ended up in second place and what his team was trying to do during the race.
Telemetry is the data the race car sends back to the team. It helps engineers spot what’s happening and decide how to push the car harder or change strategy.
Turbochargers are parts that help the engine make more power by squeezing more air into it. In this discussion, they’re saying altitude conditions can make turbo engines work especially well.
Suspension settings are how the car’s suspension is tuned to control how it grips the road. They’re saying older races relied more on guesswork because teams couldn’t measure everything as well.
Renault is a company that competes in Formula 1. Here they’re mentioned as part of the turbo era and the engineering approach of that time.
Term
banks of computers
They’re talking about big computer setups teams used to analyze race information. The point is that teams still used computers, but not in the same real-time way as today.
Term
engine step
An “engine step” means a team brings an upgraded engine version to a race. The goal is to make the car faster or easier to drive, especially when conditions change.
“Triangle” here is shorthand for the competitive pecking order among the top F1 teams—typically the three front-runners that trade fastest laps and race wins. The speaker is suggesting the title fight is mainly between those teams.
Silverstone is a well-known race track in the UK that hosts Formula 1. When people say “at Silverstone,” they mean the whole F1 weekend, not just the final race.
Qualifying is the session where F1 cars set their fastest laps to determine the starting grid for the race. A strong qualifying performance often matters because it can help a driver start in cleaner air and avoid traffic.
FP3 is the last practice session before qualifying in an F1 race weekend. It’s where teams try things and see how fast the car seems to be before the real qualifying and race.
Place
that racetrack
They’re talking about a particular race track that’s short and very twisty. On tracks like that, small driving mistakes (and small car differences) show up quickly.
Curbs are the raised strips at the edge of the track. Racers sometimes ride over them to help the car turn, but they can also make the car bounce or feel unstable.
The Ferrari FF is a high-performance Ferrari designed for long trips. It has seating for four people and uses all-wheel drive to help put power down. It’s mentioned because it’s a different kind of Ferrari than the usual two-seat sports cars.
Corner exit is when you’re coming out of a turn and starting to accelerate. If a car is slow on exit, it usually means it can’t put power down as well as the competitors.
This is a Mercedes-Benz S-Class from the W140 generation. The S600 Coupe is the high-end version with a powerful V12 engine, built for smooth, comfortable long drives.
The Honda S600 is an old Honda sports car. It’s small and light, and it was made to be fun to drive. People talk about it because it’s a classic model with a sporty reputation.
This is a BMW Z3 M, which is the sporty version of the Z3. People call the Coupe a “bread van” because its shape is more enclosed and hatch-like than the open-top roadster.
The BMW Z3 M is a sportier, higher-performance version of the Z3 roadster. When they say it has “heft,” they mean it feels heavier and more solid when you drive it.
Concept
buy the cars in America
They’re talking about where you buy the cars from. If you only look in America, you’ll find fewer cars than if you could buy from anywhere.
Concept
drive to Mexico
They’re talking about driving across borders as part of the plan. The point is that roads and help if something breaks may not be as good, so reliability matters more.
The GMC Yukon is a large SUV. In this part of the episode, they’re talking about the 2021 version as a comfortable, easy “cruiser” with a big engine and lots of space.
A “6.2-litre engine” means the engine is big—its displacement is 6.2 liters. Bigger engines often feel easier to drive in a heavy vehicle because they can deliver strong power without working as hard.
A sat-nav upgrade updates the car’s GPS/navigation system. It usually means newer maps or software so directions are more accurate and the system works better.
“Snagging” here means the little problems that get noticed before you fully accept the car—like parts that don’t fit quite right. The idea is they fix those small issues so the car is sorted.
The McLaren 12C is a high-end supercar made by McLaren. It uses a modern twin-turbo V8 and a very strong lightweight body, which helps it feel fast and sharp.
The Chevrolet Corvette is a famous American sports car. Here they’re talking about a C5-era Corvette, and they’re choosing it because it’s more “American” and easier to sell in the U.S. market.
“993” is a nickname for a specific Porsche 911 generation. People love it because it’s the last version of the classic air-cooled 911, so it can be expensive to buy now.
Concept
highway halls
They mean long, straight highway driving that feels a bit boring. Even if you have a fun car, it can get tedious without twists and turns.
A “manual” is a car where you change gears yourself using a clutch pedal and a stick. It gives the driver more control over how the car feels. The host is pointing out that his car is a manual.
“Stang” means the Ford Mustang. The host is saying he picked a Mustang (and specifically a manual) for the trip because it’s the classic American choice. Mustangs are popular for their performance and big parts selection.
The Plymouth Barracuda is a classic American muscle car. It was made in the era when cars were known for big styling and powerful engines. People mention it because it’s a well-known model from that time.
A penalty charge notice is basically a formal ticket for a traffic or parking problem. It tells you what you did wrong and how long you have to pay or appeal it.
The Bentley Bentayga is a luxury SUV from Bentley. It’s meant to feel very high-end inside, while still being powerful enough to drive quickly.
Term
14 days
With some parking/traffic tickets, you can pay a cheaper amount if you do it quickly. In this case, the discount applies if you pay within the first 14 days.
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Hello, and welcome to the car podcast of Chris Harris and Little Friends.
We have a cut down show this week,
because yesterday I failed to make my internet work.
That's on me. I apologize.
And my learning friends have been very, very gracious
and allowed us to do an early morning Thursday.
Thursday? Thursday?
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Thursday record, which is very difficult for Finlay,
who has to produce the thing.
So I apologize to all involved.
I apologize.
Those that can't see and they'll keep it's holding
sort of funny toy with glasses.
Oddly thing.
It's a Japanese.
This episode 94.
Therefore, we're going to talk about Ayrton Senna.
Of course we are, because we have to.
1994, significant year.
Managed to go first.
I think I want, I think you've heard pretty much
all my stories about Senna.
So I am going to tell a story that the family
told me about him once.
And I thought this was just great.
As I've looked back on him, his legacy
and the kind of depth of his personality,
I've realized that he actually could have been on this podcast
and would actually have done very well on this podcast.
Because I think he had a few obsessive psychological issues.
I think that's the best way of putting it.
He really was one of us.
He could drive.
There's a story about him driving his dad's car
when he was eight.
And he's all the way down the highway.
The police pull him up and they look through the window
and they can't see him for a minute because he's so small.
And he'd learned to do this obviously on farmland,
Mr. Cooper, you know, because that is some of the great place.
I mean, it's one of the great areas to drive.
You're on your own.
The story I want to tell you about is,
it's just a good OCD story.
So apparently one day he was having breakfast with the family.
So I think he was a double world champion at this point.
And his niece noticed that he was buttering a piece of toast.
Very, very obsessively indeed.
And the whole family's have stopped having breakfast
and they're watching him.
And after 10 minutes,
there's a very cold piece of toast at this point.
That noise is not oil tanker, folks.
That noise is a buzzing from inside Neil Clifford's bag
that he's taking to Le Mans.
And we don't know what is vibrating inside it, do we?
Well, we do.
Well, we have some guesses.
Hair clippers.
Hair clip, of course, is there?
Manage, please carry on.
So anyway, after 10 minutes,
God, this is quite difficult to carry on.
How do you follow your...
Sorry, just to sort of get you back on track,
because that was a rather unwarranted option.
There is no other way to butter a slice of toast
than to take 10 minutes doing it.
I have to say, we are on that bet.
Well, this is really...
So at that point, his niece Bianca said,
what are you doing, Uncle Ayrton?
Double world champion.
And he said, I'm trying to get an absolutely even coating
of butter on this piece of toast.
And it never...
I just can't get it quite, quite even.
At which point, the family kind of suddenly
started to have some inkling.
Oh, hello, Mr. Clifford.
No buzzing.
Anyway, this is the kind of person he was.
There's another story about him playing a game of tennis.
The game of tennis took an hour.
Unfortunately, when they went to collect the balls afterwards,
he noticed they had 11 balls and not 12.
They had three cans.
He spent three hours looking for the missing ball.
He could not walk away.
He played three times longer looking for a missing ball
than he was playing tennis.
I think he loved this show.
I think that's true.
He would have loved this show.
But do you think he had uncomfortable levels of OCD
that made his life more complicated than it needed to be?
Or do you think, actually, it was the right thing for his talent?
I think in terms of...
I mean, all of these little issues that we have as human beings
can either be curses or blessings.
I think in Formula One, it was a massive blessing
because it made him so obsessive about a sport
which was absolutely packed with details.
To the point where it drove some people mad,
but actually gave him that edge and he needed that edge.
He was up against some of the best drivers of all time.
But in life, I think...
Name me what you think might be an untidy F1 driver.
Do you think they're out there?
People that are as chaotic as me?
Well, we probably can't name them,
but I think we probably know there are one or two.
Do you think there are?
I think there have been.
Really? Hunts, maybe?
I mean, James Hunt.
James Hunt, I mean, bless him.
But who else?
I think Gilles Villeneuve was a very, very untidy driver, actually.
Do you mean untidy driver or do you mean untidy?
Untidy.
Untidy, I think that's a better word.
And also, I think Andrea de Cheseris was a bit of a...
Yeah, turns up on the day, not that much thought, more instinct.
Really?
Yeah, I think so.
I think as in all walks of life, there are those...
Most obviously, and sort of frustratingly, really,
sometimes the rest of us, that are unbelievably blessed
with an extraordinary, unique talent, whatever it is.
And they themselves can find it frustrating that they're a bit untidy
and a bit, you know, sort of, you know...
But it's very, very hard to change it.
It's very, you know, it's not a conscious thing.
And I had never heard...
I wouldn't have necessarily guessed that Ayrton had an OCD manifest.
The toast test, we should TM that, the toast test.
If we meet somebody new in the course of our podcast,
we should somehow, without crowbarring it in,
offer somebody a little plate of butter and a piece of toast
and just see how they get on.
My wife is very, very OCD about buttering toast.
If I miss a corner, it gets sent back.
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think you can tell a lot about a person from how they butter toast then.
Yeah.
This podcast, you learn so much.
You do.
I think the center myth on reflection,
obviously manages film is just stand out and keeps the myth alive.
For me, it was as much about the way he presented himself out of the car as in the car,
the two combined, because the way he spoke about his relationship to the car and racing
was so much better and more lucid than all the other drivers.
So you naturally wanted to hear him.
And I think that it gave him a sympathy sometimes when he didn't deserve it,
because he was so good at expressing.
It was quite poetic the way he spoke about the car.
He made it romantic the way that he drove this vehicle, his relationship to it was,
it was physical.
And I think that if he hadn't had that, I don't think he'd have had the myth.
I don't think the myth would have been as powerful with the yellow helmet piling through other drivers.
I think it was as much the off track persona and the power he held when he spoke as it was about the way he drove.
Is that fair enough?
Very much.
Neil?
I just thought he was very handsome.
He was cool, wasn't he?
I wasn't, I wasn't into Formula One as much as you guys then.
You know, it was a thin layer of interest, but he was the coolest, wasn't he?
Handsome, Brazilian, talented.
You know, I still prefer...
That was magic.
I was the only one that was British at that point, you know.
Mansel was still my guy or whenever that, but he was the guy, you wanted his hair.
Yeah.
There's immense hair jealousy.
He was just cool as hell, wasn't he?
And super talented, amazing.
Did he resonate outside the sport?
The way that the, like Lewis does.
When Lewis won that race of the week, it was amazing.
Suddenly it was all over the times, the telegraph.
It was all about racing for three or four weeks.
He would have been in Brazil, wouldn't it, I suppose?
No, no, he resonated outside the sport.
There's a wonderful quick story about...
He used to go to America for holidays, a bit like Michael Schumacher,
because the volume of F1 was so much lower and because he was Brazilian,
so he could go to McDonald's or he could go to Disneyland.
But apparently he did go to Hollywood just once.
Went into Spargo in LA, the big restaurant,
and literally everyone stopped eating and Mel Gibson never only just stood up
and started clapping.
Hmm.
It isn't amazing.
It's interesting.
I mean, the world does change, isn't it, a lot?
I mean, a lot of things have changed.
At one level, it sounds weird to say it,
I almost still can't believe he's gone.
And he, for us, he is absolutely like 9-11.
The challenge of space shuttle is the one that blew up just after launching.
It's, you know, I know exactly where I was.
I know I was sat in a garden of some friends' houses in Bista.
John and Jenny.
And John wasn't there on the day that he died.
Hmm.
That race in Imola.
And John wasn't there because he was Silverstone for an F-3000 race.
He was the chief designer of the Reinhard F-3000 car in 94D,
which one David Coulthard was driving that weekend.
Well, I think it was his only F-3000 race that year,
Vortex Motorsport, which is sort of Reinhard's then sort of little in-house, almost team.
And we saw the accident.
It was a surreal weekend.
It was all round, wasn't it?
Because of Reuben Barrichello's accident,
then the horrible events of Saturday with Roland Ratsenberger.
And it sort of initially didn't seem that bad because it was like,
the thing bounced off the wall and we all know we've all seen it.
But we knew something was up.
And that evening, that afternoon before the end of the race,
I drove into London to see some friends in a pub in Wandsworth.
And I can distinctly remember the table and the taste of the beer
when somebody said, have you heard it?
And Senna's died.
And it's burned into my consciousness.
And I still almost can't believe he's gone.
It's so...
That whole 94 season from the beginning seemed a bit odd in some way, didn't it?
It's really, really weird.
And I know we...
I hope you realise, Manish, we gently tease you about it
because we are all in awe of the film you made about him
and the man and the process you went through
and the love you've shown for him
and what that's meant for the sport.
So we couldn't possibly have got past episode 94 without talking about it.
We'll come back to him lots and lots of times again in the future.
Last question to all of you.
Is he the Obi-Wan Kenobi of Formula One?
Did his myth increase exponentially because he died when he did?
If he'd carried on racing,
would there have been a point where he had gone on too long
or he'd done a shumaka and in some way tainted his legacy?
What do you think?
Definitely.
He's Kurt Cobain, isn't he?
Yeah, Prince's die.
I don't know that I'd buy that.
I think he had so much planned for afterwards.
I think he would have been one of these people that you do see
transcend into something else.
It was just such a pity that we didn't get to see that.
How old was he when... I should know this.
34.
You see, one of the things you see when you look at almost footballers
of the 70s and 80s and 90s, they all look much older
and he seemed, maybe because we were younger.
34 now seems like a sort of child,
but he wasn't.
He was anything but that.
The photo of a car.
We're not doing that one.
Give me a chance.
We're not doing that one.
That's what we'll respond to next week.
Logs as cars, cars as bogs,
aka our VW polos actually cats.
This is as bizarre a description of something I've ever seen on this podcast.
Yes.
Okay.
Here's what goes first.
If you're happy for me to try this prototype,
this week we're endeavouring to compare cars to dogs
and if it works and any element of humour will do dogs to cars.
Do you want to try to give it a go?
I'm going to read out a dog for each of you
and you've got to tell me what car it is.
Okay.
Mr Harris, a white miniature poodle.
Is a Suzuki XC90.
Brilliant.
That is it.
We're never going to beat that.
We're not going to win now.
End of the quiz.
Mr Cooper, a traditional black and brown and bit of white in it,
our session.
I think that is a 2004, whatever series that was, Audi RS6.
Oh yes.
That's true.
C5.
C5, yeah.
Is that with the V10 or the V8?
V8.
V8.
Twin turbo.
Leica.
Leica, exactly.
Just made of wood.
Chihuahua, mannish.
Citroen 2CV.
Nice.
Oh, cute.
I went to Chihuahua once on a train in Mexico.
It was rather uninspiring.
I couldn't think of a Mexican car.
That was my problem.
I enjoyed that.
Is it around 2?
I've got three more.
Mr Harris, St Bernard.
Chevy Suburban.
Oh yes.
They're so good.
When you get in one of those and you get a higher car,
I've got a Suburban.
I'm so happy.
Do you never know quite what high car you're getting?
You're getting a bit of anxiety.
So you get there.
They're going to give you a shit one.
Mr Cooper.
Greyhound.
Greyhound.
I think that is an aerial atom.
I was going to say exactly that.
Brilliant shout.
Has to be.
You ever driven one?
Do you know?
I haven't.
No.
Me neither.
I've never driven a longer version of an atom
that neither like both of it.
Not together.
We can fit it.
There are two seats.
You're not fit at all.
I've never tried sitting in one.
I just imagine I'd get in and think,
oh god, I don't quite fit.
I think they're very, very, we need to go and visit.
We're very, very clever down there.
I don't know, Mad.
I had to pull the seat forward.
Did you?
Yeah.
Because there's that little sign.
If you go down the A3 or 3, there's a sign for Kru-Kern.
I think, I know it's half past six in the morning.
I wonder whether they're in.
They're in.
They're fantastic.
We need to go and visit the place.
It's amazing.
We can do those motorbikes that look like bloody Mad Max.
Batman's motorbike.
Yeah.
Last of all, in this lovely little series of dogs and cars,
the Rhodesian Ridgeback Manage.
Oh, long wheel-based Land Rover.
Anything from the 60s, a brown one.
Yeah.
Well, the V8 County.
Yeah, V8 County, for an example.
Yeah.
V8 County manual, cloth seats, nine seats.
Lovely.
Can I just say why I added the cat's VW's a cat thing to it?
Because this is your idea, Neil.
But when I wrote this down, I thought,
when we talked about VW's Polos last week,
one of the things I said, we all said,
was you never know which mark they are.
If we did cats, I don't know, I know any cat breeds.
They're just cats.
I love cats.
We've got cats now, and they were absolutely besotted by them.
But I don't know how we do this game with cats,
because cats are just cats.
Not to all people, but I just wonder whether to us it would work.
Manx, Psybys, Mankoon.
Is it a Burbys cat?
Probably.
Is that a Python?
No, no, Burmese, 30,000 pounds are kitten, apparently.
What cat?
You're right.
Jaguar's, Puma's, Lion's, Tiger's.
Yeah, those kind of things, yeah, but domestic.
Big cats, as easy as the little cats,
they're all a bit similar, aren't they?
That's sort of it.
It's like tiny stars.
Is a VW Polo actually a cat, not a dog?
Well, that's sort of it.
Did you know that the Latin name for a Jaguar is a Panthera Onca,
and a leopard is a Panthera Pardus?
But the cheetah is the weird one.
It's Assasinix dubatus.
It's very odd.
I was quite into my big cats.
I think I prefer a cheetah.
Are you reading that?
No, it was that in your head.
No, that's in my head.
It's very sad.
Amazing.
You are Indian Senna, basically.
Oh, no.
Okay.
Don't.
Watch out, I'm coming through.
You can't do that.
Well, I have to say that when I did that show with Francis,
restoring the class 37,
part of the reason why I loved the vehicle
was it looked like a woofer.
You had that very friendly snout.
The eyes, the nostrils.
I kept saying it to the crew.
No, no, no.
Sorry.
They go, what, you keep talking about it being a dog.
I said, to me, it looks like a Labrador.
Yeah.
It just looks friendly.
And actually, I do think that friendly looking cars
look like dogs.
Time immaternal car looks like a dog.
Okay.
I've got a list of cars here, too,
but I thought we'd save that for another week.
Okay.
I'll move on.
May I just explain that that wasn't what you thought it was
in my bag.
And clearly, this is the reason why I'm not an F1 driver,
because I am quite scruffy.
But I thought it would be a great idea to take a little air
inflator, just in case, because I'm often the law.
Obviously, this will never work.
And the things started to inflate inside my bag.
So that was the reason for the noise.
It wasn't what you thought it was.
Right.
Shall we move on?
Coolest Citroen.
I mean, where do you begin?
Where do you begin?
Only one hour.
It's not the coolest car around the world.
Man, if you can go first.
So this was the big debate.
Do you go CX or DS?
And the CX for me, aesthetically,
it had to be the DS, actually.
Oh, and DS in the end.
I think they look like spaceships now.
In 1955, what would people have been saying?
And then to make a car that's not only that beautiful,
but also that technically off the scale,
disc brakes, hydropneumatic suspension,
the power steering, all the stuff it has.
And then to make something with an interior quite so stylish.
That doesn't do it.
That doesn't do it.
There's a, I don't know if you remember,
do you remember the day of the jackal?
Yes.
The original one.
They first have that meeting at the Elisae Palace.
And there's a, they, you know,
rumor has it that there's an assassin out there,
the chakal.
And what do you have?
You have that row of DSs.
There must be 20.
Every government minister has a black DS.
They're perfectly parked.
Could have been Senno parked each of them with their perfect chauffeurs.
And you're a black and you just go French governmental car.
And in fact, do you remember,
it even begins with the DS where de Gaulle's assassination doesn't quite happen.
It is the DS rich film.
And I never get tired of looking at them.
And the last thing I would say is find me a car.
And Anil, you have this sort of test, don't you?
A car that looks good from every angle.
You know, there are a few, we think sort of the con ti,
our con ti ti can be there.
This car looks like a spaceship from every angle.
There is just look at it from the top, look at it from the side.
What a view from view.
It's just, it's, it's magnificent.
I did design by Flamino Bertone, who was a sculptor.
I didn't know this.
He designed the traction avant and the two CV before.
A guy called Andre Lefebvre and Robert.
Oh, I think I can't read my own writing.
It's something like up, something like that.
He, he was the engineer who then went into the CX and did clever things with that.
So a sculptor, an aerodynamicist and a kind of engineer par excellence.
I mean, how does it get better than that?
So the DS is off the board, lads.
Sorry.
So the French are quite good really, aren't they?
And we have this obviously extraordinary, as the British,
we have this extraordinary relationship with them because of history,
100 year wallers kind of things.
Do you remember that?
There was a clip you see in social media of a stage show that Rowan Atkinson has done
where he plays the devil.
And he's, you know, he's a very, I won't try and do any impression of the most extraordinary man on stage in the world.
He says, you know, well, here we are, lots of new joins.
Well, murderers, solicitors, investment bankers.
And then there's a pause and he says, the French.
And in this country, that still gets an enormous laugh.
But you look at post war France, because the war was clipped, World War Two was clearly,
I mean, awful for a whole of Europe, but very, very complicated for the French because of occupation,
splits, all those kind of things.
And post war France was extraordinary.
It produced all those cars, aviation, Dassault, Lagard air, all those things.
And they're very, very French in a way which Citroen to me just completely epitomizes.
But if we did pojo, we'd get obsessed in a buttering a piece of toast properly way about that as well.
Because I'm contrary.
And I, you know, I don't know what cool is.
And when I look at some of the comments about me on YouTube, it reinforces I'm just rather clunky and
irritating and not cool at all.
So it's not the DS and it's not the SM.
It's the GS, early 70s, specifically, specifically the by rotor.
Yeah.
Vankel engine GS.
You look at that shape now, we'll put a picture up to show it.
It's the most beautiful, elegant shape.
A lot of shapes from the 70s, you think were simple and elegant.
But you look at them now and somehow the proportions not quite right.
The glass house is too tall or the tails out of proportion to.
But the GS just looks, if you try to recreate it, you just mess it up.
So the GS has got extra Citroen Ella.
That's what the by rotor.
The story about the by rotor is that Citroen was so worried about the potential for mechanical failure.
They tried to buy them all back.
Yeah.
There was one at Bista in January and they tried to buy them all back and they couldn't because there were some obstinate people that loved their rotary engine GS and they wouldn't sell it back.
So that's the reason why some exist.
But Citroen did manage to buy a load back basically crushed them.
How sad.
Neil Clifford.
I was bombing up the M1 this week, feeling pretty good about myself in a 1990 turbo are slightly bit of rusty round the wings.
Am I going to, you know, am I going to risk the 15 grand?
Shall I deal with the corrosion or is it going to be 15 grand to paint the whole bloody car?
And shall I just let it slowly rust at home vibe going on green, green leather feeling great.
And then in my little rear view mirror, I see the car and I'm like, oh, the guys just trumped me.
I don't know what card analogy I've got there because my mum was a gambler and I never liked playing cars.
So I can't do a car analogy.
But there it is.
The color I've not really seen before because it's not the green one, which I had with those very, very cool special plastic wheel things.
And it's not the gold one, which a lot of people have.
It's a mixture of green and gold.
It is the obvious choice.
Maybe it's the right choice.
Maybe it's a bit too obvious.
The Citroen SM.
And there he was.
Obviously my wife took that photo because she was with me.
And that is to me, that's the coolest.
It's Concorde.
Yeah.
It's like the O1.
What was the O1 to maintain one?
Well, you know what?
And that really cool bloke that's got like 500 cars down near Chisester has got every single Bristol.
The guy who was the Simon, whatever his name is, obviously is confidential.
The guy, the Virgin Record guy.
He bought my SM, the green car.
The green car.
Yeah.
Green with black manual had all the suspension pneumatic things done by that company that everyone wants them to do it for.
They had the special wheels.
Shouldn't have sold it.
It's one of those cars.
Let's throw it out there.
Lancia Integrale for me and E30 M3.
Same.
It's much better to look at.
And it's enough to own just to look at.
To drive.
It's a little bit tricky because it's basically a hovercraft.
And the button of the brake pedal is tricky.
Even for me, such a highly talented should have been an F1 driver.
When you've only got a button, which is about a quarter of the size of this button.
It's very, very difficult to drive.
And the steering is so light that it's all just a bit hairy the whole bloody time.
But you're like, okay, it's bit shit, but it's so cool.
And look at this button.
It goes up and down.
It's just mega.
It is a yes, no button, really, the brake on that, isn't it?
It is.
A bit torn on this because there are two obvious ones for me and you've not mentioned them.
The two CV, I just love the car.
I love the story and the simplicity and the fact that actually great car designs should be available to more people than a few people.
So actually, if you make 100 supercars, I'm not that interested.
I think cars for the masses are incredible engineering feats.
And the two CV, I think is clever than the Beetle.
And I think it does things that other cars couldn't do that.
Those criteria of 50 kilometres an hour over a lightly plowed field, having enough headroom to wear your top hat to church.
And then the crazy egg thing on your lap, which is again, one of the tests.
I do think it's remarkable.
It lived such a long time.
Actually, I think it lived a bit too long because the later ones were a bit disappointing because they had sort of accoutrements that made them look modern, which meant they lost their charm.
I think that the sweet spot is a 425cc, late 50s, canvas roof, very bare interior and a, you know, winter ribbons that work off the speedometer cable.
It's remarkably clever.
But the AX GT is so understituted in so many ways because it has all the quirkiness of being made of plastic and so lightweight.
But the way it drives is so urgent that I almost think it's the ultimate hot hatch because you might not be going very fast.
But the sensation that you're driving something special is remarkable.
It was available for so little money.
And I remember it was Group A insurance in the early 90s where everything else was from 12.
I've got a couple of them now.
I drove one of them the other day and it is remarkable.
If you did the Pepsi challenge and broke down driving into its basic form, how do you feel through your hands, your bottom and what a car does in response to your inputs?
It shits on most supercars.
It's absolutely brilliant.
So it should be the 2CV, but I'm going AX GT.
I think it's an amazing little car.
Yeah, yeah.
That's a good call.
Okay.
Next.
Here we go.
Where's my gent-dumb?
Oh, a little bit of F1 Austria.
I'm going to go to Mr Cooper first.
Yellow flag gate was interesting, wasn't it?
And I suspect because it was George and everyone knows I am a fan of George.
I do quite like him and I have sympathy and I sort of feel, I don't know why, because I don't really know him.
He's crying.
He's crying.
He's just blah, blah, blah.
So, and I've, he's clearly had a really, really tough year because Kimmy has been so extraordinarily blisteringly fast and consistent.
And particularly last Miami and Monaco, it was like crikey.
George is even worth getting out of bed in the morning.
So quality in Austria was really, really interesting about Yellow Flag Gate.
What was particularly interesting was how few people recognize what a double waved yellow looks like on the lightboards.
When they were introduced, I've been around for a while, when they're introduced in the UK a few years ago, most of what UK, I think did a great job in providing a lead and support to the clubs and the circuits in installing in most, if not many, if not all now, of the
motivation circuits in the UK.
One of the questions that we asked when they were being done was actually, I can see how a single, a single yellow, a constant yellow would be a static yellow waved one, a flashing would be a single yellow.
What do you do about double waved yellows?
Do we need two lightboards?
And the answer was no, we're going to have this triangular flick flak thing.
Well, actually, it's all makes sense.
And I was amazed in the sky coverage that we can how few of them seem to understand that.
And when Anthony Davidson and Manish, you and I were talking about it on the chat, explained it in his usual extraordinarily articulate and, you know, enthusiastic persuasive way.
Almost many of the rest teams still didn't seem to the penny hadn't dropped in that George hadn't gone through a double yellow and that Kimmy and everybody else had seen the single yellow but hadn't noticed it.
It prompted a separate debate about how the flags were applied, which is a completely different which we'll get into another time.
So I thought George was right on top of it. And I was pleased to see him win the race.
Like all those things, if it'd been another couple of laps, would you have not won it. But it's a bit like saying in a football match, if we'd had another 10 minutes, we might have won that match.
But the point was, that was the length of the football match that was the length of the race.
And that's the one. So I was really, really tough to see him do really well.
It's amazing to see the Red Bull going so well. And that fantastic Ford Red Bull Milton Keynes engine.
I can't wait for Silverstone this weekend. We could have another occasion with three British drivers on the pole.
So yeah, so I thought it was well done George and good luck to all the British drivers in Formula One and the F1 Academy.
And I think that's one of them taking a Silverstone to everyone going Silverstone, please cheer all the British drivers, everyone Academy F2, F3, everything.
Manish.
Well, just start by saying I enjoyed the race, you know, again, I still have a few friends who are not finding this formula, particularly edifying, but I think the teams and the drivers are getting on top of them.
And I just week in week out, this guy Verstappen makes my jaw drop.
He just that car should not have been second. I know George was managing the very last stint and sort of backing off a little bit, but he wasn't backing off a second lap.
He was backing off maybe three tenths of lap just to control that.
What is Max Verstappen doing in second place at the end of a race like that? And even if it's accident and qualifying, he didn't completely understand it.
He was trying to get that, you know, the telemetry said if you could get that extra three kilometers now, he'd be right up there.
We do what's he doing there?
What was all about this race is I think it's an altitude.
And I think it did suit big turbochargers for that reason.
I think Ferrari were at a little bit of a disadvantage because, you know, historically, if you remember races like South Africa, they love turbos, those races because altitude, they just breathe better.
Lewis, it was quite strange.
There's something about this formula that is reminding me now of the 1980s.
I'm just quick digression.
In the 1980s, there wasn't that much telemetry.
People couldn't analyze every single suspension setting, every single, you know, the Renault kind of bought that in with their turbochar.
They bought in the kind of it.
Honestly, it looked like NASA.
They used to bring it to every race, these banks of computers.
So what that meant was there was a bit more guesswork, intuition, experience and a little bit more sort of driver input in terms of setting up the cars.
What that actually gave you is quite a lot of variability between races because basically they were analyzing, they were trying to analyze way more than they could possibly analyze.
So I'm saying in a very long and boring way that races were surprising.
They were surprising for the teams.
They were surprising for the drivers.
Oddly, I think this formula is so complicated.
There's so much going on with the arrow with this formula, with this engine formula, with the newer smaller cars.
I think it's so complicated.
And then with the temperatures, this was a 60 degree track temperature.
I thought, oh, Ferrari, you're going to walk it.
They've got their engine step.
They're brilliant in the heat.
No, it's obviously thrown up some variables that they just can't analyze in time.
And that, I think, is the thing that I'm enjoying.
All I would say, though, just that little voice in the background is just saying, but who have been the most consistent team all the way across this formula?
And it's the team that's won all but one race.
So it's lovely to see George coming back and making a bit of a race of it.
I think if Kimmy had come second in the last race and had those extra five laps in this race, we could be saying something else.
My final point, yesterday I went to the Grand Prix ball and it was a lot of fun, money raced for charity.
Jensen Button was on our table and he said, he went up on stage, he was talking about this year's season, and he said something interesting.
He said, George is doing a great job.
Then he paused and he went, but my God, that Kimmy is fast.
Who would have said he'd have been a second and a half behind them by the end of that race, you know, given where he started, the mistakes he made early on.
I think you just saw in Jensen's eyes Kimmy is absolutely some uber prodigy.
And it's going to be a lot of fun if Red Bull can get that car right, seeing this triangle, because I think it's between them.
I don't know why, I just don't think after this weekend Ferrari are going to do it this year.
Just look at the numbers, but I do think.
I could be completely wrong.
Kimmy vs. Paul.
It was Louis VIII and now we have one race and it's like they're written off.
I know, but he had two seconds and a win.
There were really nowhere here, there were nowhere, several of the races before the two wins.
I think it's very complicated. You're right.
But do I see the second half of the season or the second two thirds of the season because it's such a long season being all red?
I don't think so.
What do you think Max will do?
I think he's going to go to Mercedes.
I think all of this McLaren stuff I think is all very clever Raymond Vermoulland.
You know, they're next year.
Yeah, I think you will.
I thought they'd already said we're happy with the drivers.
Maybe, but I think there's always a way as we know.
I mean, that's true.
If he wants to go to Mercedes, he's totally going to say nah, nah, you can't come.
Sorry.
Wait a minute though, wouldn't it?
Because last year, I mean clearly they believed in Kimmy and we can see why now.
How would it work putting Kimmy and Max in the same team?
What's going on at Aston Martin?
They're just waiting for a new step in the engine and they're also not going to chuck their upgrades in until hungry.
I think it's probably a clever thing to do.
They're going to get the stuff right.
And then is Christian going to go?
That's Christian things coming back.
Is that all just Instagram bullshit?
I think so.
It's hard to tell, isn't it?
I get fed it the whole time as well to the point where I sometimes believe it.
But until I read it in a reliable source, I'm not going to believe it.
I can see it being possible and not being stupid, but I don't think it's real, is it?
I don't know.
It's on Instagram.
Did you watch the race, or not?
I did.
It was very exciting.
I fell asleep for the middle bit and then I fortunately woke up right at the end.
So it was perfect.
And my wife told me it was very exciting.
And I was a bit disappointed because obviously I love George, so that's great.
But you know, come on, Lewis, this weekend.
We want Lewis to be Harry Kane on Sunday at Silverstone.
I thought it was one of the most interesting races of the year so far.
I really enjoyed qualifying.
And I think George deserves a massive pat on the back because championships are often decided
by races that you didn't deserve to win on paper.
If you looked at the pace in FP3, George shouldn't have been in with a shout.
And he grabbed the opportunity.
I have no problem with the yellow flag thing at all.
Max would have done exactly the same.
And he then drove a stellar race in a car that wasn't quick enough really on paper to win the race.
I thought he was superb and he kept out of trouble.
I really thought it was the race of a potential champion.
I'm amazed that the press is more glowing about what he achieved actually because at the end of the race,
those last few laps which were really exciting, everyone was monitoring the gap between Max and George.
But actually it was Kimmy that was closing in on Max far more.
And Max was much more in danger of losing second than actually George was of losing the win.
It was a superb performance.
It's a funny racetrack.
I've driven there quite a few times to do films.
It's so short and so technical.
It's one of those places that when you get there, you can't really fathom what a thousand horsepower
for one car would feel like round there because in a hot hatchback, it feels a bit small and intimate.
But the way they drive the bloody things round there and also those curbs are serrated and they're like little peaks.
And they all use the curbs on turning, which I don't know how a car does it.
The only tire is sort of only got half the surface area to turn in on.
It's remarkable the way they drive them and the performance of the cars there.
So I thought it was a very significant race.
And I wouldn't want to write Ferrari off because I think they're the fascinating thing about their powertrain,
but that small turbocharger is that it didn't quite work at altitude.
And they were losing on the corner exit, weren't they? Quite a lot.
But yeah, I really enjoyed it.
I was actually quite close to not watching it. I'm very glad that I did actually.
I thought it was great. Here we go. Let's go for a two car garage.
We just about scraped in on this one.
I know you've made a last minute decision with a friend to go and see the England in the World Cup.
You're starting off in Atlanta after that win.
You then got to drive to Mexico City in the Poland.
Did we say three days? Three days.
And once we've won that game, you've got to go back to Mexico City and back to Miami in three days
for the quarter finals against Brazil.
You're buying each other a car that you can swap around to get different pleasures.
You've got a 100000 pounds budget and it's absolutely vital that you make it back to Miami
where you're meeting your family.
So reliability is as important as comfort as well as driving pleasure for this crazy 200 miles.
Ideally, you want to sell the cars quickly in Miami and not lose much money.
This is bloody involved. This is... Yeah, OK.
It's actually 3,700 miles the whole trip, isn't it?
Exactly. Yes, I looked on Google as well.
I did that.
That's where we're all quite different. Did you really calculate that?
Yeah. I thought, how far is it? You just go onto Google and it's brilliant.
Atlanta, it looks like you could go first.
Atlanta to Mexico City, 1,721 miles, 29 hour predicted drive.
Mexico City to Miami, 2,000 miles, 32 hour predicted drive.
I thought it was like I might have chosen different cars.
OK, Chris Cooper goes first.
Well, this is really... I mean, Neil, you wrote this one
and we were in a little group last night saying...
I know that we've all thought about selling these cars in Miami,
but before the 74th minute of the England Democratic Republic of Congo match last night,
we're all saying, I wonder what the second-hand market for these cars would be like in Atlanta
because that's where we're going home from.
So, yeah, well done, England. Well done, Sir Harry.
Reliability gained an even greater significance last night, didn't it?
We're looking for the Harry Kane of the car world here.
I know Neil thinks I'm a fake Scott.
I did drop a little joke in, I tried a little chat last night to say,
oh, should we just check to see whether the Scotland team's plane has taken off yet?
There's probably some room left on that if anybody's interested in the England team.
Oh, so fake Scott, Mike.
To which Neil replied, I have to say, don't worry, we'll win.
I wasn't listening to it because I was in the car driving back from Anglesey,
but I suspect we were almost 75 minutes into the match and then they scored twice.
Are you a crystal ball-gazer? Amazing.
I'm just an optimist.
Amazing, yeah.
That's all right, that's all right.
So, I think it's got to be BMW and Mercedes.
It's got to be BMW and Mercedes.
On car and classic, there is an S600 Coupe, W140 S600 Coupe.
Oh, well, that's good.
It's about 50,000 euros, 40 something thousand pounds.
And I think that would be a great car to have.
We'll put the picture up.
And I sort of oscillated around what BMW.
But I ended up with Z3M bread van.
Yeah.
And I think those two cars, they're quite different in sort of, in lots of obvious ways.
But I think they both give you reliability.
They give you quite a distinct driving experience.
There's some luxury, there's some sportiness,
but the heft of that Z3M.
And I think the two of those, with one of us and a mate,
you could swap those cars around and never run out of things to enjoy
in each of those cars all the way to Miami,
and hopefully beating Brazil.
Yeah.
Manish.
Well, I read a very slightly different way in that you had to buy the cars in America
on car and classic, which rather reduces the number of cars.
Well, because you're in America, we're flying today.
You're not going to get this thing shipped out, are you?
You've got Sartre and Atardis.
You can get them there very quickly.
No, no, no.
I did have my pan choices to start with.
But in the end, I decided to go with, I decided to go with buying in America.
So there's another little tricky bit in this, which is you've got to drive to Mexico.
I don't know if you guys have driven in Mexico, but some of the roads are maybe not quite as nice
as the roads in America.
And if you break down there, you may not have such an easy time.
So I've gone double American car, because I think you'll get your parts and all the rest of it.
And I think in long drive, actually, screw handling performance,
you just want this thing to cruise, have amazing air conditioning and be as big as possible, really.
So my first one is the 2021 GMC Yukon.
And it's got a 6.2-litre engine.
And this thing's about £40,000.
And it's white.
It's massive.
I read about the equipment in this.
I've just got sort of four, you know, cup holders per person.
It's an incredible car.
Now, to stop any jealousy in your friend, because you've got a massive Yukon,
I think actually...
I've never seen that before.
You've got a massive Yukon.
I think your mate is going to have this 2015 Cadillac MI ESV Platinum Edition.
It's a same-bucky car.
It's a very, very similar car.
So you've got the Yukon and a Cadillac.
That's the point.
This thing is massive.
They're both £40,000 each.
You're going to look like kind of the anti-president of the United States
because they're just in convoy and they're white.
And I think you're going to have a great time.
And I don't think you're going to lose any money on either,
because you're only adding 3,700 miles.
Those are both Butros Gali spec, aren't they, really?
These are.
This is the white Yuan spec.
Have you noticed on Google, it says,
attention, you are leaving a country and entering another if you follow this route.
I love that.
Just to let you know.
Is there a US government department that drives white SUVs?
Because black is always the FBI or the CIA, isn't it?
Who drives white?
Food and U.S.
M.I. or agriculture and forestry or?
Meal.
Right.
Miami, the easiest cars to sell in Miami, in my very humble opinion,
are McLarens because you can...
There's so many McLarens there.
It seems to me the most popular place in the world for McLarens.
And therefore, I went and looked for a McLaren because I love the MP4C car
and actually very rare in blue.
So we've got one of these because we're going to have a wonderful time.
It's had all its snagging done.
It's had its sat-nav upgrade.
It's had, you know, people have...
They fixed all the screws that didn't fit and all of those things.
And it is available at 65 grand.
Hold on a minute.
At...
Here we go.
A superbly presented McLaren 12C,
available from Loewe Cars,
Upper Tilbury Farm, Abergavenny.
So that's going to be really easy to get from Abergavenny to Atlanta, isn't it?
Because it begins with an A, at 65 grand.
And then I've got OK.
I need a different car,
but I want it to be sporty
and I want it to be American this time
because it's going to be easier to sell in Miami.
Obviously not as easy as the McLaren, but easy.
I want a convertible so we can swap around.
So we've gone for a Chevrolet.
What, laddie, is this anyway?
C5 thing, Corvette.
And this is available, Beverly Hills Motor Cars.
Which is only one of them.
That is just a great place to go to today.
They've got some cool shit there and some shit.
But that's 30 grand for that.
And that is Miami, basically.
So you've got sporty, sporty reliability
because of McLaren and Chevrolet.
And you've got convertible, non-convertible, V8, V8.
It's all going to be a great laugh.
Did you say the words McLaren and reliability in the same sentence?
I did, yes.
I think it snuck out.
I did.
£65,000.
What could go wrong?
I've done a bit of a Cooper here and sort of,
I believe my bidding skills will get me out of this situation.
Oh, no. Here we go.
I want a 993 for this journey.
I love a 993.
And actually, even though long auto,
what are they called, highway halls in America,
make you want to be in a suburban,
actually you want something a bit fun.
Otherwise it becomes terribly tedious just going in a straight line.
Weirdly, in America,
a fun sports car in a straight line is quite nice.
So I'm going to go 993, but a target.
Now it's a load of money this one,
but I don't think that's going to fetch £80,000.
I've just bought that for £70,000
because I do think it's about a 70 grand car,
but it's manual.
I've never owned a 993 target.
One of those cars that I used to laugh at
because I couldn't understand why anyone would buy one.
And now I see them and I think they look really cool.
The roof opens is really cool.
I know it's based on the convertible.
It's a bit wobbly, but sadly,
one of my guilty purges is a 993 Tiger is a great looking thing.
American, it has to have one American car, don't it?
And it has to be a Stang.
So I found myself 36 grams worth of Stang,
five leads of manual, obviously,
and I will chip that down to 30.
So I've had to work quite hard for these two.
I'm amazed no one else chose a Mustang.
I think you have to have a Mustang for that trip,
but it's a gorgeous thing.
Maybe convertible, I could afford it.
Okay, let's do some music.
Here we go.
Neil, you can go first.
Uh, the police.
Roxanne.
Oh, yeah.
Great song.
Just made that up.
Managed?
It lied to us.
Well, no, just after yesterday's incredible performance
for Mr. Cain in England,
I'm going to pick a piece of music from any O Morricone soundtrack
to the film, The Mission.
And the track is On Earth As It Is In Heaven.
Come on, England.
Mr. Cooper.
You know that I occupy Philistine's corner
in this part of our podcast,
and that I've regarded on a number of occasions
the canon of works of dollar
was worthy of sharing and enjoyment
amongst the other three of you and the wider population.
I think I have to pass that.
This way.
Do you remember the 1980s TV series Howard's Way?
Yes.
Howard's Way for those not in England's success to Shire
was it was a classic late 80s,
big bang...
Ken Masters.
Ken Masters was the sort of the slightly dubious commercial seller
of speed boats and dodgy fashion jackets
and the boatyard where somebody is set up
with their redundancy payment at the boatyard.
At the time was a boatyard that I sailed from.
When I was a student,
I used to get on the train from Portsmouth in Southsea,
occasionally fratten, and go to Bursaldon.
Yeah.
I was at the Elephant Boatyard,
which was called the Mermaid Boatyard in the TV series,
and that mid-late 80s period was just unbelievably exciting
in lots of places around the world, certainly in the UK.
And Howard's Way, because we knew some of the people in it,
was just sort of like it was our thing.
The theme music from Howard's Way,
there was like a gentle sort of like,
gentle edging one at the beginning.
I've gone even worse than that.
At the end of Howard's Way,
there was like a sort of version of this.
It's called Barracuda.
Barracuda, the Howard's Way theme.
I ended up listening to it.
I was down in Cornwall last week,
and I took, I haven't meant to send it to you.
I took a picture of my defender in the boatyard in St. Morse,
and I almost sent it to you to say,
bring back Howard's Way.
And I spent the rest of the afternoon
going down a rabbit hole of looking at all versions,
and I found, I thought, yes.
Barracuda, Howard's Way theme.
What was Barracuda, the name of the boat?
It was very good.
Barracuda was the name of the sporty high performance,
like displacement boat.
There was a guy at the time, Bob Fisher,
who is the doyen of...
Jack Rolf.
Avalrof.
Jack Rolf, Charles Freer.
He was the mercurial boat designer, the old guy, wasn't he?
That was the old bloke, yeah.
Barracuda was a real yacht,
and the guy who was their advisor,
a bit like Steve Cropley, Ian Fraser,
all rolled into one with Nigel Robuck and Russell Bulgin.
Bob Fisher was that guy died a few years ago in sailing.
And he was, as part of his fee for the series,
he got that boat, and he was racing
in the Cross Channel Raul series that I was racing in.
I threw up in the cockpit of that boat once, Barracuda.
That's it you're asking.
It was a great TV show.
It was.
It was really good.
I'm going to go for something totally random.
And I ended up looking at YouTube,
and I found Tommy Cooper doing his sketch,
Jar Spoon, Spoon, Jar Jar Spoon.
And just, if I could just play him saying,
Jar Spoon, Jar Jar Spoon on a loop,
I think I'd be unable to drive.
I was laughing so much.
My father, my late father, hated Tommy Cooper,
wouldn't play in the house.
I realised I really missed out.
It's such a gentle, cool comedy.
But just to have him on a loop saying,
Jar Jar Spoon, please listen to it on YouTube.
You don't have to even see it.
If you see it, it's even funnier.
But the way he talks is just brilliant.
That was a slightly shorter podcast.
Thank you very much.
Before we go, before
would you like to talk about your penalty charge notice
of last week that you began the show with?
Yeah, the show with.
So, so I did receive a penalty charge notice
during the podcast.
And I had to frantically look through my diary
and work out whether I had the Bentayga at that point.
And I didn't manage to have the car.
And I thought very graciously,
I sent it to him through back channels
without wanting to humiliate him on the group chat.
But Manage very kindly says he wants to talk about it
on the pod.
So over to you, Manage.
It was my penalty charge.
It just took a little while to get to Mr. Harris.
And even worse, you know, if you pay it in the first 14 days,
you pay, know, half.
I'm not sure they got it rather than 2000000
Exactly.
So I got it on day 17.
And there was no arguing with the,
the People's Republic of Camden Council.
I'd basically, I did exactly the same things I did with Lola.
There is, there are these Warren-like streets
in and around Islington,
which if you're not looking at a sat nav, you do notice it says,
no cars, no motorcycles between dingy and dingy.
And I just actually dropped Dashi to, to university.
And I was coming back thinking, you know,
hope he has a nice term.
Hope he enjoys his cricket.
So it was my notice, which is why Mr. Harris was like,
I wasn't in that car on April the whatever.
That's ridiculous.
It does happen.
But I have to say, when I looked at the photograph,
there was a fair amount of road furniture warning you not to go down that road.
I thought, was that not fair?
No, no, I think that's completely fair.
I think fuck wittery should be punished.
You know, that's just one of those.
If you basic, that's basic Darwinism.
If you can't look out of the window and at your sat nav at the same time,
you possibly shouldn't be driving a big green Bantaga.
So I'm going to take that on the chin and learn from it.
And I suggest that we choose car Darwinism or some variation of that as one of our topics
on stage at the Clapham Grand.
Yes.
On 17th of July.
Tickets available.
Very good idea.
Yeah.
I'm looking at it now, Manage.
I think you've been, you've been treated harshly, but I can see how that has happened.
I think I'm very high at it.
I won't show the image, but the signs are very high.
Signs are very high.
That's exactly the road I got done on in Lola and the one around the corner three minutes later.
So they have taken from me a fair amount of money, you know, on that one particular road.
I think it's only that Bentley must have thought, oh, here we go.
Chris Harris again.
Because obviously that had gone to Chris Harris when they really should have said,
maybe it was Manage.
He did that in place.
He vanished.
He vanished.
On that note, it's goodbye from all of us and we'll see you or you might hear us next week.
Thank you.
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A cut-down Chris Harris & Friends show turns into a deep, story-driven discussion of Ayrton Senna and why his legend endures. The hosts trade personal memories of 1994 and the Imola weekend, then focus on Senna’s off-track persona—his poetic, physical way of talking about the car—and how that shaped his myth. A standout segment shares family anecdotes that suggest obsessive traits (the “toast-buttering” story and a missing tennis ball obsession), sparking debate: were they a curse or the edge that made him great?
