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 BONUS: Autocar Meets Andy Green and JCB's Lord Bamford

BONUS: Autocar Meets Andy Green and JCB's Lord Bamford

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JCB’s HydroMax takes center stage as the Autocar podcast team talks hydrogen land-speed record plans for Bonneville—aiming to beat the long-standing Dieselmax benchmark. The discussion moves from dyno testing and aerodynamic drag to why tire limits and track length matter at extreme speeds. Andy Green and JCB’s Lord Bamford then broaden the picture to hydrogen piston engines for diggers, including leakage, fueling time, and why fuel cells can be costly and sensitive to dirt and temperature.

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Car

Dodge Challenger

"... Green to talk about HydroMax, a new speed record challenger. Over to Steve. It's my pleasure to introduce Win..."

The Dodge Challenger is a sports car built for strong acceleration and high-speed driving. It’s often talked about because it’s designed to be a “performance challenger,” meaning it’s meant to go fast and feel exciting to drive. That makes it a natural fit when a podcast discusses speed and record attempts.

Car

Jeep Commander

"...Over to Steve. It's my pleasure to introduce Wing Commander Andy Green to our usual by working cars audience...."

The Jeep Commander is a mid-size SUV, which means it’s built to fit more passengers and handle everyday driving. It’s designed to be practical, with space for people and luggage. It may be mentioned in the episode because the word “Commander” is used in the introduction.

Concept

land speed record

"Andy, you're about to attack a brand new land speed record attempt project... Going to go to Bonneville."

A land speed record is about setting the fastest speed a vehicle can achieve on land. Bonneville is a well-known place where people try these records.

Term

twin-engine

"hydrogen-powered twin-engined record breaker... starting with two JCB digger engines."

“Twin-engine” means the vehicle has two engines working together. Using two engines can help provide more total power for record-speed runs.

Concept

hydrogen-powered

"This is going to be the JCB HydroMax, which is a hydrogen-powered twin-engined record breaker... hydrogen for them is the way ahead... converting their diesel engines into hydrogen."

In this context, “hydrogen-powered” means the vehicle uses hydrogen fuel to make power. The idea is that when it burns hydrogen, it can produce water instead of typical exhaust gases.

Car

JCB HydroMax

"This is going to be the JCB HydroMax, which is a hydrogen-powered twin-engined record breaker. Going to go to Bonneville."

JCB HydroMax is a special vehicle made to try for a land-speed record. Instead of gasoline or diesel, it uses hydrogen, and the exhaust is mainly water.

Car

JCB diesel max

"the JCB diesel max twin-engine JCB digger engines with big turbos on the side... JCB did that so well 20 years ago that that is still the world's fastest diesel car, 350 mile an hour world record, which is starting with two JCB digger engines."

The JCB Dieselmax is an earlier JCB record car that used diesel engines. It’s referenced here because it previously held the record for a very fast diesel-powered run.

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turbos

"the JCB diesel max twin-engine JCB digger engines with big turbos on the side, lots of power..."

“Turbos” are turbochargers. They use the engine’s exhaust to push extra air into the engine so it can make more power.

Concept

internal combustion

"Of course, JCB is looking at the future. What is the future of internal combustion?... they've spent five years... converting their diesel engines into hydrogen."

Internal combustion means the engine makes power by burning fuel inside it. The hosts are saying hydrogen could be used with this kind of engine instead of diesel.

Concept

biofuels

"they've looked at the challenges of running construction equipment on sites where you don't have lots of electrical power, that using biofuels and things like that is a bit of a stop-gap solution..."

Biofuels are fuels made from living or recently living material, not just fossil fuels. The speaker mentions them as a temporary solution for equipment that can’t easily use electricity.

Concept

zero emissions solution

"it will then run all day on hydrogen and produce water out of the exhaust pipe. It is for them the zero emissions solution for the future..."

“Zero emissions” means the vehicle is claimed to produce no polluting exhaust while running. In this case, the speaker says the exhaust comes out as water when using hydrogen.

Concept

hydrogen fuel

"Now, if you then put two of those engines on the dyno and crank them up using hydrogen, which likes to burn... You can generate... 800 horsepower... and it's got 1600 horsepower. They are looking to exceed the 350 mile an hour world record... but now doing it with a zero emissions at zero carbon fuel."

Hydrogen fuel is a fuel that can produce zero tailpipe emissions. Using it in a fast race car is tricky because the engine has to be tuned to burn hydrogen safely and efficiently.

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dyno

"Now, if you then put two of those engines on the dyno and crank them up using hydrogen, which likes to burn, clearly they're managing that very carefully, that's part of the first thing that JCB got on top of."

A dyno is a special test stand for an engine. It lets engineers measure how much power and torque the engine makes while they control the conditions.

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torque

"You can generate from an engine that normally delivers 74 horsepower, they've got their engines up to 800 horsepower each with an enormous amount of torque."

Torque is the engine’s twisting force. More torque usually means the car can accelerate harder, which matters a lot when you’re trying to reach top speed on a limited distance.

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space frame

"but completely redesigned using modern technology, much better space frame, it's 10% lighter, it's 10% less drag"

A space frame is a strong skeleton made from metal tubes. It helps the car stay stiff and stable when it’s being pushed very hard at high speed.

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drag

"much better space frame, it's 10% lighter, it's 10% less drag... so it's probably less grit, probably more drag... it's going to have to manage probably higher drag."

Drag is air resistance. The faster you go, the more the air pushes back, so reducing drag helps the car go faster.

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world record land-speed attempt

"They are looking to exceed the 350 mile an hour world record they set last time... The salt track is a natural surface... When you've got two and a half tonne car to accelerate and slow down again, the loss of two miles is a significant hazard."

A land-speed record attempt is a straight-line speed challenge on a special track. The car has to accelerate and slow down within a fixed distance, and track conditions can make it harder to hit the target speed.

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salt track

"Thing is, it's very difficult to say. The salt track is a natural surface. It varies from year to year, and over the last couple of decades, the salt has been shrinking."

A salt track is the salt flat surface used for top-speed runs. If the salt is rougher or dustier, it can make the car harder to control and can increase drag, so it affects the record attempt.

Term

power to weight

"Was the power to weight of diesel max less than hydro max?"

Power-to-weight means “how strong the car is for how heavy it is.” A lighter car with similar power can accelerate better than a heavier one.

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tire limiting speed

"because the car had achieved its 350 mile an hour target, which was the tire limiting speed."

At very high speeds, the tires can become the limiting factor. Even if the engine can go faster, the tires may not be safe or stable enough to do it.

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cockpit layout

"which must be things like cockpit layout and visibility and comfort,"

Cockpit layout is how the driver area is set up—where the seat and controls are, and what the driver can see. Better layout can help the driver stay comfortable and in control.

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engine test bed

"working on the engine test bed,"

An engine test bed is a place where they run the engine and measure how it behaves. It helps them check performance and problems before putting it into the car.

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hydrogen system

"working on the hydrogen system, the team in Prodigy."

The hydrogen system is everything that handles the hydrogen—storing it and getting it to where it needs to go. It has to work safely and consistently for the car to perform.

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salt operating environment

"some of that is bringing some of the real world practicalities of operating on the salt."

“Salt” here means the salt flats where they try to set speed records. The surface and the harsh conditions can affect grip and even how parts wear out.

Concept

fixed track length acceleration planning

"Because if you've got a fixed track length, that will then determine how long you've got to accelerate, and therefore how much power you need"

On a fixed-length track, you can’t just “go as fast as possible whenever.” You have to accelerate enough early to reach the target speed before the run ends.

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failure modes

"to find out what the failure modes look like, so that they know how much faster that can you say? [503.1s] No, because it actually, different depending on the start conditions, you get different [507.3s] failure modes at different speeds."

“Failure modes” means the different ways something can break. In this case, tires can fail in different ways depending on how they’re loaded and how fast they’re spun.

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NASA spin rigs

"it's been spun up on one of the that the NASA spin rigs [519.5s] is built for the space shuttle. And they spun it until they wrecked tires and said, what's the failure [523.6s] mode?"

A “spin rig” is a specialized test machine that spins a tire or component at controlled speeds to reproduce real-world stresses. Here, the hosts say the rig was built for the Space Shuttle program, then used to spin tires until they fail to identify failure modes and safe operating speeds.

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jet fighter engines

"taking a car supersonic with a pair, you know, two of the largest, most powerful jet fighter engines [578.8s] ever made, certainly of their era, but specifically designed to do that is, you know, they, they are"

Jet fighter engines are the kinds of engines used in military jets. They produce huge thrust, which is useful when you’re trying to push a vehicle to record-breaking speeds.

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supersonic

"But again, [572.6s] taking a car supersonic with a pair, you know, two of the largest, most powerful jet fighter engines"

Supersonic means going faster than sound. When you do that, the air behaves very differently, which makes high-speed control and design much harder.

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W12

"you're getting there on the, yeah, with its W12 race prepped engine."

W12 means the engine has 12 cylinders arranged in a special shape. The point is usually to fit a lot of cylinders into a compact engine so it can make strong power smoothly.

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world's largest straight line speed meet

"actually take it out to a natural track in the salt and run it on the loose, slippery, high altitude surface there as part of the world's largest straight line speed meet."

This is a speed event where the goal is to go as fast as possible in a straight line. Instead of turning corners like on a track, teams focus on getting maximum speed safely over a long distance.

Brand

Bugatti

"as part of the world's largest straight line speed meet. So to do that and then make it hydrogen powered is a whole raft of challenges that quite rightly Bugatti didn't get their arms around."

Bugatti is a famous car brand that builds very high-performance cars. In this conversation, it’s mentioned as a company that didn’t take on this specific hydrogen land-speed challenge.

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SCTA

"it's not just us looking at this and saying, well, you know what, this, this looks and feels like the future of the internal combustion engine. I said, you know, the SCTA, who are the Bonneville regulators"

SCTA is an organization that oversees land-speed record attempts. They make the rules and help ensure the runs are measured and judged consistently.

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Bonneville regulators

"I said, you know, the SCTA, who are the Bonneville regulators are developing a hydrogen internal combustion engine class"

This means the officials who run the rules for record attempts at Bonneville. If you want your speed to count, you have to follow their requirements and measurement procedures.

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FIA record process

"Quite rightly, JCB did a bit of due diligence as well as going through the whole FIA record process."

FIA is the big international motorsport organization. Saying “FIA record process” means the speed attempt has to be done with official checks so it can be officially recognized.

Company

Porsche and Performance Centre

"it was a very interesting day going to the Porsche and Performance Centre. Oh, right. Okay. And being beasted by them for a whole day."

Porsche has a training/performance facility where people get pushed and evaluated. The idea is that Porsche can study how the vehicle and driver behave under demanding conditions.

Concept

Bonneville in August

"HydroMax, which is a hydrogen-powered record breaker that you're going to take to Bonneville in August."

They’re planning the record attempt for August at Bonneville. Timing matters because the weather and track conditions can change how well the car can run.

Concept

fuel-cell vehicle

"I gather that a hydrogen record exists, but this was for a vehicle that was powered by fuel cells, hydrogen fuel cells..."

It’s a car that makes electricity from hydrogen using a fuel cell. That electricity is then used to move the car, rather than relying purely on a conventional engine.

Concept

hydrogen piston engine

"I gather that a hydrogen record exists, but this was for a vehicle that was powered by fuel cells, hydrogen fuel cells, and you'll be using a hydrogen piston engine, right?"

This is an engine that uses hydrogen as the fuel, but it still uses pistons like a traditional engine. The big difference is the fuel is hydrogen instead of gasoline or diesel.

Concept

instant power for a few seconds

"We need power in a different way when you're making a backhoe loader or a wheel loading shovel to actually driving on the road. We need instant power for a few seconds..."

Construction equipment often needs a quick burst of strong power for a short moment—like when digging or lifting. Road driving usually doesn’t demand those same short, intense bursts all the time.

Concept

backhoe loader

"We need power in a different way when you're making a backhoe loader or a wheel loading shovel to actually driving on the road."

A backhoe loader is a construction machine that can scoop with the front and dig with the back. It’s built for heavy work, so it needs strong power when you’re lifting and digging.

Concept

wheel loading shovel

"We need power in a different way when you're making a backhoe loader or a wheel loading shovel to actually driving on the road."

A wheel loader is a big construction machine with a front bucket used for moving dirt or rocks. It needs strong, quick power to load material efficiently.

Concept

Bonneville speed record runs (average of two runs)

"if we could do the same thing. That's what we did in 2006 in Bonneville. We were very lucky. We got a very clear record of 350 miles an hour. In fact, on one of the runs, we got up to 378, but it's an average of two runs."

Bonneville Salt Flats are famous for trying to set top-speed records. Instead of trusting one run, record attempts often average two runs so conditions are fairer.

Term

hydrogen leakage

"It is a different tank, obviously, and leakage is a major problem that one has to tackle early on."

Hydrogen can escape more easily than many other fuels, so preventing leaks is a big safety and design issue. That’s why the system has to be engineered to stop hydrogen from getting out.

Concept

site filling system

"And you have a system where you can now provide site filling. So somebody that is operating several"

Instead of taking equipment to a fueling station, the hydrogen can be filled right at the job site. That helps keep machines working with less waiting around.

Term

bowser

"of these machines, or a number of these machines, can simply come back to the tank, or the bowser, [1262.3s] or whatever it is, and that's refilled now and then."

A “bowser” is a fuel tanker used to deliver fuel to a location—commonly seen on construction sites, farms, or remote works. In the transcript, it’s used as the practical way construction machinery gets refueled before hydrogen delivery becomes common.

Term

hydrogen machines

"But at the moment, [1287.1s] my son Joe, who has various business, but they're all involved with energy, [1292.5s] is able to deliver to site and to the machine. Great big trailers with hydrogen."

These are machines that run on hydrogen instead of diesel or gasoline. The key difference is how they get energy from hydrogen and how they’re refueled at the job site.

Term

piston engines

"the reason you are so keen on [1309.8s] traditional engines, piston engines, powered by hydrogen, is because we have this 120 odd years of know-how about crankshafts and piston engines and so on."

Piston engines are the classic kind of engine where parts move inside cylinders to make power. The discussion here is about how long we’ve been making them and how well we understand them.

Concept

fuel-cell sensitivity to dirt and dust

"But they also have limitations as well. Our products from the moment they start [1438.4s] work are digging in dirt and dust. They are incredibly dirt sensitive."

They’re pointing out that fuel cells may not like the dirty, dusty conditions you get on construction sites. The idea is that the environment can make the system harder to keep working reliably.

Concept

fuel-cell sensitivity to temperature differences

"They are incredibly dirt sensitive. They're also highly [1445.9s] sensitive to temperature differences. These are fuel cells."

They’re saying fuel cells can be affected by temperature changes. Since job sites aren’t climate-controlled, that can be a challenge for hydrogen systems.

Term

hydro maxi

"And what the hydro maxi is going to prove is that you can take, once again, a digger engine, this time powered by hydrogen, but in essence, the vehicle that brows your diggers, and it will do 350 miles an hour with Andy Green at the wheel."

“Hydro maxi” is a project name for a hydrogen-powered machine. The idea is to take a digger-style engine setup and run it on hydrogen instead.

Company

Ricardo

"We've been very much helped not only by our own people, but we use Ricardo in our advanced engineering. We've been very helpful. British company."

Ricardo is an engineering company that helped with the project. In this conversation, they’re part of the team doing advanced technical development.

Company

Prodrive

"And also Dave Richards as well has been very helpful. Pro drive. Pro drive, yes. Very interesting. Those have been closely involved on this project."

Prodrive is a company known for motorsport and performance engineering. Here, they’re described as having a hands-on role in the project.

Brand

Goodyear

"We've had a Goodyear on the Tars. That's a very good turn of events."

Goodyear is a tire brand. The speaker is saying the project used Goodyear tires, which matters a lot for grip and control.

Company

Bosch

"I mean, there are other Bosch has been involved in it."

Bosch is a major automotive technology company. The speaker is saying Bosch also helped with parts of the project.

Term

X-Track

"Gearbox, I'm not sure. I think X-Track was a Gearbox. Yes, exactly. But I think it's X-Track on Gearbox."

“X-Track” is mentioned in the context of a gearbox, suggesting a specific gearbox model or transmission-related component. The speaker implies the gearing and gearbox selection are complex and tightly integrated with the overall powertrain.

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