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Concept
rally cross
Rallycross is a type of racing on a short track that can include dirt and pavement. It’s designed to be chaotic and fun, with lots of turns and traction changes.
Concept
donor car
A “donor car” is basically a parts source. Instead of using it as the main car, you take useful parts from it to build or upgrade another car.
Concept
auto cross
Autocross is a timed event where you drive through a course marked with cones. The car setup matters a lot because you’re constantly turning and changing direction quickly.
Term
skids
Skids are protective plates you bolt underneath the car. They help keep the important parts safe if you hit rocks or the ground off-road.
Term
lift
A lift means raising the car higher off the ground. That gives you more clearance so you’re less likely to hit rocks or the trail with the bottom of the car.
Term
ADF stuff
“ADF” here is a brand that makes off-road parts. If they say they have “ADF stuff,” they mean they installed aftermarket off-road gear from that company.
Car
2005 four-ser XT
They’re talking about a 2005 Subaru Forester XT that’s been heavily modified. The goal is to make it behave more like an STI, not like a normal Forester.
Term
type RA block
An “RA block” is a stronger Subaru engine block used for performance builds. Builders choose it because it’s meant to handle more stress than a standard block.
Term
forged rods
Forged rods are stronger engine parts that connect the pistons to the crankshaft. People upgrade them when they want the engine to survive more power.
Term
pistons
Pistons are parts inside the engine that move up and down to create power. Upgrading pistons is a common step when building an engine for more boost or harder use.
Car
2019 Subaru Ascent
The Subaru Ascent is Subaru’s three-row family SUV, and the speaker highlights their “first Subaru” as a 2019 Ascent that they “lifted.” That matters because it shows a mainstream family platform being modified for off-road capability.
Term
off-road
“Off road” just means driving where the road isn’t paved—like dirt trails or gravel paths. It’s usually harder on tires and the suspension than regular city driving.
Term
BDR
BDR is short for a mapped off-road adventure route called the Backcountry Discovery Route. “Washington BDR” means the version of that route that goes through Washington state.
Car
Subaru Outback
The Subaru Outback is a Subaru wagon/crossover that’s popular for road trips and light off-road use. Here, they’re talking about bringing several Outbacks to an overlanding show.
Term
Overland trailer
An overland trailer is a towable setup designed for extended road trips and off-road camping, often carrying gear, water, or a sleeping area. In this segment, Troy’s trailer is mentioned as part of the overlanding display next to the Outbacks.
Term
busted windshield
A busted windshield is a cracked or broken windshield. It can be unsafe because it affects your view and may need repair or replacement.
Concept
muddy
“Muddy” here is shorthand for actually using the vehicles in off-road or dirty conditions, rather than keeping them clean for show. In overlanding communities, that’s a credibility signal that the setup is meant to be used, not just displayed.
Car
Forester
The Subaru Forester is a practical SUV/crossover that’s popular for outdoor trips. It’s easy to load up with gear and is designed to handle rougher roads than a typical car.
Car
stock Subaru
A “stock Subaru” is basically a Subaru that’s still in its original, factory setup. The point here is that it can do real off-roading even without big modifications.
Term
one and a quarter inch
“One and a quarter inch” specifies the lift height increase, which directly affects ground clearance. Even small lift amounts can change how easily a vehicle clears obstacles, especially when paired with appropriate tires and driving lines.
Term
spot you
In off-roading, “spot you” means a guide or spotter stands outside the vehicle to help the driver navigate obstacles safely. The spotter watches tire placement, clearance, and body position to reduce the chance of getting stuck or damaging the vehicle.
Term
limited trim
“Limited trim” just means a nicer version of the same model with more features. In this case, the guest mentions leather and a sunroof, which are the kind of upgrades you’d expect on a higher trim.
Car
Subaru Just Subaru
The Justy is a small Subaru that was made to be efficient and easy to drive. In the podcast, it’s mentioned because people are trying to get owners together for a meet-up. That suggests it’s a less common model with a dedicated group.
Car
cross trek
The Subaru Crosstrek is a small SUV/crossover that’s popular for road trips and light off-road use. Here, they’re talking about their 2023 Crosstrek and how it’s been working for them.
Company
Subaru of America
Subaru of America is Subaru’s U.S. organization. In this story, they’re the ones who sent the invitation.
Term
X-Mode
X Mode is a setting in some Subaru models that helps the car handle rough or slippery ground. It changes how the car manages power and traction so you can move more confidently off-road.
Term
emergency things
“Emergency things” are the extra supplies you bring in case something goes wrong far from help. Think of items that help you stay safe or deal with a problem until you can get assistance.
Topic
Overland Expo
Overland Expo is an event for people who travel with their vehicles and carry gear for trips. Here, they’re saying it’s a good place to find products and get ideas from other Subaru owners.
Term
washboard
A “washboard” is when the trail surface has lots of small ridges. Your vehicle bounces and shakes as you drive over them.
Concept
living out of your Subaru
They mean using the car like a home while you travel—sleeping in it and using it for camping. It’s more than just driving somewhere; you’re set up to live out of the vehicle.
Term
paper maps
Paper maps are just printed maps you can read without needing a phone or internet. People like them for trips because they still work even if your signal or battery dies.
Term
digital maps
Digital maps are navigation maps on a phone or GPS that show your location. They’re handy for directions, but they can be affected if you lose signal or your device runs out of battery.
Car
Forester Forrester Hybrid
The Forester is a Subaru SUV that’s built for everyday driving and can handle rough roads better than many sedans. A “hybrid” version uses both a gas engine and an electric system. In the podcast, it’s mentioned as part of the hybrid lineup.
Term
livery
“Livery” is the decorative paint/graphics scheme on a vehicle—often including stripes, logos, and color patterns. In motorsport and custom builds, the livery is a big part of the visual identity and can make a rig look purpose-built even if the mechanicals are similar to other builds.
Place
Redmond
Redmond is the city where this overlanding event is happening. The hosts are talking about how the expo has been held there for a few years.
Term
base camp
At an event like this, the base camp is the main area where you start out and where you’ll usually find the most organized stuff. They’re saying they checked that area and also walked around the rest of the expo.
Topic
Transamerica Trail
The Trans America Trail is a famous long off-road route across the U.S. People use it to plan big adventure trips, and they’re mentioning it as a reference point for their own trail experience.
Car
Chevrolet Tahoe
The Tahoe is a large SUV made for carrying people and gear. It’s commonly used for family trips and towing. In the podcast, it’s mentioned as part of someone’s past location and schedule.
Topic
do yourself showcase displays
They’re describing a section of the event where people bring their own vehicles to show off. It’s a way for attendees to display their setup and talk to visitors about it.
Term
ground tents
Ground tents are the classic tents you set up on the ground. They’re the most common camping option, and the hosts are contrasting them with other ways people camp from vehicles.
Term
rooftop tents
Rooftop tents are tents that mount on top of your vehicle. Instead of sleeping on the ground, you sleep up on the roof, which can be more convenient and comfortable in some camping spots.
Term
hammock
A hammock is a fabric bed you hang between two points. Some campers use them instead of tents when they can find good places to tie them off.
Term
camping in the back of their vehicle
This means sleeping and setting up camp inside your vehicle’s cargo area. People do it to avoid pitching a separate tent and to keep everything tied to the car.
Car
lifted WRX
The Subaru WRX is a turbocharged, all-wheel-drive performance car. A “lifted WRX” means it’s been raised up so it can handle uneven roads better—useful for overlanding and camping trips.
Term
Rica wheels
“Rica wheels” are aftermarket rims from a company called Rica. People change wheels to get a different look and sometimes to fit different tires for off-road or rugged driving.
Term
T-tons
“T-tons” sounds like a named accessory or product they’re using on the vehicle. The exact item isn’t clear from the transcript alone, but it’s part of the overland setup they’re showing off.
Term
bigger motor
“Bigger motor” just means a more powerful engine. With more power, the car can feel less strained when you’re driving uphill or carrying gear.
Term
manual transmission
A manual is a car where you shift gears yourself using a clutch and a stick. Some drivers like it because it gives you more control over how the car responds.
Car
Ktm Xbow
The KTM X-Bow is a small, lightweight sports car built to be very fun to drive. It’s designed more for performance and track-style driving than for everyday comfort. The podcast mentions it in the context of a course and how the layout feels.
Car
Chevrolet Corvette
The Corvette is a sports car made for speed and driving excitement. Because it has a strong fan base, people often form clubs specifically for Corvettes. In the podcast, it’s referenced in that club context.
Term
number plate
A number plate is the license plate on a car. It’s how police and cameras identify which vehicle it is.
Term
Ute
A ute is like a pickup truck, but usually with a more car-like cabin for passengers. It also has an open bed in the back for carrying stuff.
Term
pickup truck
A pickup truck has seats for people and an open area in the back to carry things. It’s commonly used when you need to haul gear.
Term
bitumen
Bitumen is the sticky black material used to make asphalt roads. It helps hold the road surface together and keep water out.
Term
puncture
Here, “puncture” means the tire gets poked or pierced. That hole lets the air out, and the tire goes flat.
Term
flat tire
A flat tire is when your tire loses air. The car can’t drive normally on it, so you usually have to fix or replace the tire.
Term
gas mileage
Gas mileage means how far the car can go on a gallon of gas. Better gas mileage usually means fewer stops to refuel on trips.
Term
oil filter
The oil filter is like a screen for your engine oil. It catches gunk so the oil stays cleaner and helps the engine last longer.
Term
OEM
OEMs are the companies that make the parts that come on the car from the factory. When someone says it’s all OEM, they mean it hasn’t been heavily modified with aftermarket parts.
Term
Subi forums
“Subi forums” are websites where Subaru owners talk to each other. People ask questions, share tips, and compare what modifications worked for them.
Term
Subaru booth
A “Subaru booth” is the brand’s staffed display area at an event where Subaru representatives and/or dealers explain vehicles, accessories, and how to use them for activities like camping and off-road driving. It’s often where you’ll hear guidance on what’s worth modifying versus leaving stock.
Term
clearance
“Clearance” means how much space the car has between the ground and the bottom of the vehicle. More clearance helps when roads or trails are bumpy so you don’t hit the underside.
Term
wilderness trim
A “wilderness trim” is a Subaru version that’s set up for dirt roads and light off-roading. It usually includes things like extra clearance and more rugged gear so you can go off the pavement more easily.
Concept
modifications based on their needs
This is the idea of customizing your car for the trips you actually do. If your route is rough or rocky, you pick upgrades that help with that—rather than just adding random parts.
Term
aftermarket
“Aftermarket” just means parts you buy from other brands, not the car’s original manufacturer. People use them to upgrade their Subaru for off-road use.
Term
all terrain tires
All-terrain tires are tires made for mixed driving—regular roads plus rough trails. They have tread and sidewalls meant to grip better off pavement than regular street tires.
Concept
all wheel drive
All-wheel drive means power goes to all four wheels. That usually helps the car grip better on slippery roads like snow, so it’s less likely to spin its wheels.
Term
spare tire area
A spare tire rack is a bracket or mount that holds your spare wheel on the outside of the car. It’s useful for trips because you can keep the spare easy to reach and make room inside the vehicle.
Term
donut
A “donut” is a small spare tire that’s meant to get you to a repair shop. It’s not meant for long distances or high speeds like a normal full-size tire.
Term
Tule
“Tule” sounds like Thule, a company that makes racks and gear mounts for cars. People use them to carry extra stuff on trips, and the speaker is considering a cheaper alternative.
Place
Big Bend area
Big Bend is a remote part of Texas with lots of outdoor trails and long drives. It’s the kind of place where having the right gear (like a spare setup) matters.
Place
Southwest Texas
Southwest Texas is a big, remote region. When you’re far from help, it’s extra important to be prepared with things like a dependable spare tire plan.
Place
Arkansas
Arkansas is another place the speaker plans to go for trails. If you’re doing off-road trips there, you’ll want to be prepared for breakdowns away from town.
Term
hydroplaning
Hydroplaning happens when water builds up under your tires and they start to “float,” so the car can’t grip the road well. In heavy rain, that can make it harder to steer or slow down.
Car
Toyota Tacoma
The Toyota Tacoma is a popular midsize pickup truck. Here it’s brought up as another truck the speaker tried for comparison.
Term
automatic
“Automatic” means the car changes gears by itself. You don’t have to use a clutch or shift manually.
Term
overlanding
Overlanding is like going on an extended road trip, but you’re set up to camp and handle rough roads. People usually plan for being self-sufficient far from normal services.
Topic
Camp Subaru
“Camp Subaru” is a Subaru area at the event where you can go check things out. It’s set up like a camp or hangout zone for Subaru fans.
Brand
Rallytech
Rally Tech is a company name. The hosts are saying that this company did the modifications on the vehicle they’re talking about.
Brand
Rally Innovations
Rally Innovations is another company name. The host is suggesting they may have been the ones who did the upgrades that changed how the vehicle looks.
Term
River Rock color
“River Rock color” is the name of the paint color on the vehicle. The host is saying that this color looks especially good with the chosen wheel colors.
Term
wheels and tires
Wheels and tires are the parts that connect the vehicle to the ground. Swapping them can change both how the car looks and how it grips on dirt or rough roads.
Term
bronze color wheels
Bronze color wheels are wheels finished in a bronze/gold-brown tone. The host is saying that this wheel color makes a big difference in how the whole build looks.
Topic
Crater Lake Run
The “Crater Lake Run” is a group trip/drive that the overland crowd did. It’s mentioned as a way they met new people.
Term
front suspension
The front suspension is what connects the front wheels to the car. It helps the wheels stay in contact with the road over bumps, and it affects how the car steers and rides.
Term
top hat
A top hat is a mounting part at the top of the strut/spring. Swapping it can help you change the ride height and how the suspension sits.
Term
two inch spacer
A one-inch spacer is a small thickness piece added to lift the car. It’s a common way to get more clearance, but it can affect suspension alignment and fitment.
Term
K&N
K&N makes aftermarket air filters. People swap them in to let the engine breathe a bit better than the factory filter.
Company
Grinch Speed
Grinch Speed is a company that makes aftermarket parts. Here they’re mentioned as the source for an exhaust/bypass modification.
Term
no drill
“No drill” means you attach something to the car without drilling holes. That’s useful because it can help avoid damage to the body and reduce the chance of water leaks.
Term
diodynamic lights
“Diynamic lights” sounds like a type/brand of extra off-road lights. People add these to see better at night, especially when driving off pavement.
Term
light bar
A “light bar” is an extra strip of lights you mount on the vehicle. It helps you see farther ahead than the regular headlights.
Term
articulation
Articulation is how well the suspension can flex when the wheels go over uneven ground. Better articulation helps traction, but it can also make parts under the car get closer to obstacles.
Term
skip play
“Skip play” sounds like a name for a part under the vehicle. After the lift, the car moved differently over bumps, and the speaker hit that part and dented it.
Term
sway bars
Sway bars help keep the car from leaning too much in turns. Off-road, skipping them can let the suspension move more, which can help the tires stay planted on bumpy ground.
Car
Subaru STI
STI is Subaru’s performance version of certain models. Here, they’re saying other people with STI cars were also there at the Subaru Base Camp.
Car
Subaru BRZ
The BRZ is Subaru’s smaller sports car. In this part of the conversation, they’re saying a BRZ was also represented at the event.
Term
cell booster
A cell booster helps your phone get a stronger signal when service is weak. It usually uses an outside antenna to catch what it can, then boosts it so you can actually use your phone.
Term
weak signal
Weak signal means your phone can’t get a strong enough connection to work well. A booster can help when the signal is low, but it won’t work miracles if there’s basically no service at all.
LIVE
Hello and welcome to another bonus episode from the CBNU podcast.
This one is coming from my trip out to Overland Expo PNW 2026.
And as you can see, this is a really long episode, but there's a lot of really great conversations
and I mixed in some fun stuff in the middle, which you will find out whenever we get there,
or whenever you get there.
But I encourage you to listen to it all at once or break it up in pieces.
It doesn't matter.
But I had a lot of fun with these interviews and I was very extremely thankful for Subaru
bringing me out to do this.
So yeah, it's a long one, but it's a good one.
The majority of the conversations are with people that were at Subaru Base Camp.
I recorded a lot of them there at Subaru Base Camp.
I also did some over at the Subaru booth.
I did one with Benjamin, who goes by BMC Adventures because his car was in the booth and I wanted
to record in front of his car.
I actually had another conversation with a guy named Mike who just happened to be visiting
Overland Expo.
He wasn't a camper, but he was coming through the booth and we just kind of bumped into each
other, started talking.
Turns out he's from Dallas and he actually drove out.
Not in his own Subaru, but he did drive out to Overland Expo PNW, which is crazy.
He did say he is going to drive his Subaru Cross Trek wilderness though to Overland Expo
Colorado.
So I think that's pretty cool.
But I got a conversation with that guy as well.
But I want to give a huge shout out to Subaru of America first of all for putting this together.
Thank you to everybody.
Subaru of America, Rune Management, G7, and also to Emily, our camp host.
Happy birthday to you.
Happy birthday to you.
Happy birthday dear Emily.
Happy birthday to you.
So Emily's birthday was two days after that particular day of the event.
So everybody wanted to sing happy birthday to her because her birthday was going to
be in two days.
So that is why I included that.
They all did such an amazing job.
And then there's also a whole team of people that have to pack all this stuff up into a
trailer and then unpack it when they get to the next event, put it all together, and then
take it back down again and then just up down, up down for all these events.
And it's a lot of work.
If you've been there, you've seen the structures.
You know that it's a big deal and everything looks so amazing.
And then of course, Subaru Base Camp was just elevated by like a thousand percent from last
year.
And it was just such an incredible experience, not just for me, but for everybody that was
there.
All the people that I was talking to, so many people expressed many, many thanks for even
being there in the first place and being invited out.
So that is what I ended up asking people about their cars, of course, and is like not talk
about their Subarus and there's a little bit about their Subaru journey.
But the majority of the conversations were asking them like what their impressions were
of Subaru Base Camp, what their impressions were of the booth at Overland Expo and then
of course, Overland Expo itself.
But that was what I was there to talk to these people about.
And it was just, again, it's so great having these conversations.
You know that most of the time I'm recording from in my closet in Houston.
So to be able to go out to these events and meet people in person like really, really means
a lot to me.
And because I don't get a chance to do that very often.
So thank you so much, Joe, for bringing me out to do this.
It really, really means a lot.
I'm extremely thankful and grateful and I feel very, very blessed to be able to do this.
Thanks for the noise for Joe, everybody.
Before we get into these conversations, of course, I have to give a huge shout out to
Subaru Gear.
Subaru Gear.com.
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Browse the site.
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and adventuring.
There are coffee mugs that you can use when you're out there camping.
And then, of course, backpacks, coolers that you can use to take your drinks in and keep
them cold.
But yeah, go browse the site.
There's so many great things there.
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Off a single item or your entire purchase.
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So I really appreciate Subaru Gear for working with me, sponsoring the podcast, and bringing
this great offer to everybody.
So now that that's out of the way, we're going to go ahead and get into these conversations
that I had with people from Overland Expo PNW 2026.
Again, many of them at Subaru Base Camp, a couple of them at the Subaru booth at the
Expo.
So here we go.
We asked this question on the phone yesterday, but I want to get it official here, whether
you prefer waffles or pancakes.
100% I am a pancake girl.
I love them best with strawberries and ice cream.
Yeah, there you go.
Pancakes every day.
That's right.
All right, so we're over here.
We're going to have a little conversation about Subaru stuff and about Subaru Base Camp
because we'll get into that in a little bit, but other people over there watching soccer.
Yeah.
But yeah, so I am standing here with Melissa.
How's it going?
Good.
How are you?
I'm doing good.
Apparently, this whole thing is sort of your fault.
Kind of, but not all.
Yeah, no, no.
Well, I think it kind of started with you and then it led to all of this, which is amazing.
So let us, well, first of all, let us know what you drive and then like how long you've
been a Subaru owner, like how many Subaru's you've owned.
Oh boy, how much time do we have?
I don't know.
So I currently drive a lifted 23 Subaru outback.
I own five Subaru's right now though, between my husband and my kid.
This is, we've owned 10 altogether.
We race rally cross with Northwest Rally Association.
So we have a 2004 2.5 RS sedan, kind of a piece of junk.
Okay.
But it's intended for that.
But it's intended to crash and hit cones and all that stuff.
And then we have primitive racing's old rally cross car that was as a giant.
The donor car, but we're rebuilding it to be an autocross car.
Okay.
Primitive sponsored me since I bought my outback two years ago.
So I have their lift and everything on my car and their skids.
Good people over there.
Yes, I love primitive.
I have a lot of ADF stuff on my car as well.
Patrick is amazing.
So as you know.
Yeah, definitely.
So yeah.
And then we have a rebuilt 2005 four-ser XT basically an STI.
It's got forged rods and pistons, a type RA block.
Did all of it in our living room?
My husband.
What?
Yeah.
We don't have a garage.
So I came home and I found the engine on my custom coffee table and I was like, what
are you doing?
And he's like, I put a towel down.
You got to do it somewhere.
So yeah.
So I got those cars.
My first Subaru was actually a 2019 Subaru Ascent and I lifted it.
And I was a part of a local Subaru group, but they only did pavement stuff.
And I always wanted to do off roading.
So I reached out to the other people that ran the group because they had me help run
like almost immediately.
And I was like, hey, can we do an off road thing?
And they're like, well, I don't know if there's interest.
Let's see.
So I put it together.
We're going to do section two of the BDR, the Washington BDR.
And I think we had 23 cars show up for it.
Yeah.
People are interested.
People are interested.
Let's do this.
Come on.
We did have one that shouldn't have been on the trail.
We made it most the way.
There's always somebody with a lower car that wants to see how far they can go.
But that trip will probably forever stick in my memory.
So I had that.
And then we were like, hey, let's make an off road group.
So me and I think there's six of us now.
We run the Subi Adventure Club.
And we kind of spanned across multiple states.
But this came about because I had done a ladies only trip.
I wanted to empower women to get out there with their Subaru's in what is typically a
male dominated kind of area.
How long ago was that?
So this was the last, right before the last Big Northwest.
So like three years ago or so.
Yeah.
A little over that.
So I had just done that group or run with a friend who helped me run it.
And I want to say there was like eight or so women who showed up, all of us strangers
who trusted us to take them up in the mountains and show them how they can drive their cars,
what their cars are capable with their capable of.
We had a flat tire up on the trail over a pit and everything.
We had to change it.
We showed them how to do it.
And it was just a really good three days.
So then I go to Big Northwest and my friend Justin Nimmo introduces me to Sean Conklin
here with Subaru America.
And that's how this got started.
So I met Sean.
He entered me in some drawing Subaru was doing for telling him about the ladies trip.
And I won.
I just, I didn't know that I won anything.
And I got a thing saying, congratulations won.
And I'm like, for what?
Yeah.
What did I win?
And then Sean reached out to me and he said, hey, we want to do the Overland Expo.
Subaru has never done an Overland Expo, but they're kind of on the fence with it.
So we're going to do this as an ambassador program.
And if it goes well and we can show Subaru that this is wanted, you know, and that this
is a thing, which clearly it is.
He goes, let's see what we can do.
He said, call three friends and make it happen.
So I called a couple of friends.
One of them's here right now, Dan Ring again.
And we showed up and our site was literally three outbacks bumper to bumper.
I couldn't even open my passenger side doors because the Sprinter van next to me was so
close.
Our little pop up tent was all the space we had that was free, not taken up by cars.
So did y'all display?
Or did y'all just?
Our cars were bumper to bumper and like a half a box.
And we sat underneath and on it because it was 100 degrees and we just had people kind
of we between our chairs to look at our cars.
And Troy had his little Overland trailer with his back.
So it was three outbacks.
Our cars were dirty.
I had actually just gotten mine.
So mine was the cleanest and the newest.
So I didn't have a whole lot of stuff on it yet.
I had the lift kit and the skids, but that was about it.
Troy had a busted windshield.
Oh my gosh.
And it was funny because everybody kept coming to our booth and saying, your cars are used.
All these Sprinter vans and everything are clean.
Yeah.
Clean.
And we're like, we are using these cars.
Yeah.
So real quick, when we had the big event in Houston at one of the dealerships, it was
Gilman Subaru.
And two years in a row, I took my car there muddy.
We're all because it was it's more of like a kind tuner scene there.
Yeah.
There were some off-road cars, but like I want to take mine muddy and people are saying
the same thing.
Oh wow.
You actually use your Subaru.
I'm like, of course.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We got so many like just with the three outbacks.
We actually had a Forester.
My friend Simone came with her Forester, but we couldn't fit it because that's how small
of a space that Subaru had that first year for us.
So she parked her car out front and obviously just came sat with us.
But everybody just kept complimenting.
You're like, your cars are used and they're like, we have everyday cars.
You didn't have to spend $100,000 to get these cars and to do these mods that we had on there.
The average person couldn't achieve this.
And so we got a lot of conversation and then the expo people kept coming back and bugging
Joe and Sean.
Very nice.
How do we get you guys back?
How do you get back?
And last year came back again, obviously, and they went to all of the ones across the
country like they did again.
And I'm just blown away at how big this is.
And they leveled it up this year from last year.
This is so nice.
Yeah.
Like I said, we're in little tiny spot and now like this.
Well, not only do you have a big booth over there with a lot of space, factory vehicles,
owner vehicles, but then you also have the accessories team there now.
You have a little bit bigger space for the adopt a pet area.
And then you have the stage and just the owner lounge.
But then this experience like Subaru based camp is just like, this is crazy.
This is where it's at.
This is and everybody should definitely, you know, when they're here, like take the time
and walk around and look at this.
So many builds.
And that's what's nice too is this is within the expo space.
So it's not like off limits per se.
You know, obviously all the cars that are here are by invite only from Subaru America.
But if you're at the expo, you can come by.
I mean, of course, people can come by and see the booth, but to come out here and see
what Subaru has done for their owners, you know, for their loyal fan base, you know.
It's amazing.
I don't know of another car company.
I've owned, you know, Ford's, Chevy's, Dodges, Oldsmobiles, and we've never gotten this,
you know, and we have issues.
They take care of you.
You know, they're, they really understand the value to keeping customers versus constantly
having to search for new ones and maintaining their customers with quality products.
And this event just shows how, how Subaru values us, you know, and because we love our
Subarus, you know, I mean, Subaru owners are kind of quirky, you know, a little bit
different.
A little bit.
Always have a camera.
But I mean, you know, we, we're also showing people that you can do a lot with these that
a lot of people think you can't do, even if it's completely stock, you know, a lot of
people are doing things that they buy it and then they go like meet up with people that
have heavily modded vehicles and they're like, oh, I'm not going to be able to do anything.
Like, yeah, you can, we'll help you out.
That's the other thing too, is you're not going to get out on a trail with somebody and then
just have to figure it out.
Like people are going to be there to like, they're going to tell you like, you really
shouldn't go this way, but there's this other path that you can take that would be better
for you.
And they help you to be, feel comfortable and not like, you know, you're going to be scared
and intimidated maybe, but then by the end of it, you're like, oh my gosh, I can't believe
I did that in a stock Subaru.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So it's so cool.
Subaru owners are some of the most laid back like people I know in the car scene, you know,
because the car scene gets a bad rep.
But they're most for the most part, everybody's willing to help everybody and they're willing
to, you know, be like, you can do this like, cheer them on, kind of like, you know, and
get them going.
My car's got, I call it a baby lift.
I got the one and a quarter inch, um, king spring primitive lift.
Yeah.
And I was out on the organ BDR with Patrick and the will to beast, which has got a ridiculous
lift going through the same stuff.
At one point I won't lie.
I literally looked at my husband and I said, why am I following him?
We shouldn't be here, but he was already on the other side of the obstacle.
And I was like, well, we're going.
Yes, we got to do it.
So, but you know, you, you don't get left behind and everybody talks you through things
and everybody's willing to get out and spot you.
And you know, we're all willing to be like, Hey, I've used this product.
You check the reviews first, like, you know, cause we're not wanting to see people just
go and blow money.
And sometimes, you know, it is about the name brand, but other times you can find things
that aren't name brand that worked us as well.
Yeah.
And it's nice because like so many different people have done so many different things
that there's going to be so many different resources.
So many.
So like you're not going to be stuck not knowing what to do.
It's almost like if you go to a restaurant that has a lot of options, you're like, oh
my gosh, what do I order?
It's like, what do I get for my seafood?
It's like a kid with a candy ball in Halloween, pick one.
I can't just pick one.
Yeah.
So, well, yeah, I mean, thank you for like kind of, I mean, I guess officially and unofficially,
you know, getting this started.
And I mean, they reached out to you and then you put it together or you came out and, and
I mean, I'm wondering like how, if it would have been a different story, if all your Subras
were like totally clean and polished, you know?
Oh yeah.
My husband's Subras will never see the places I go.
He has what I call pavement princesses.
And honestly, like, you know, I appreciate you thanking me, but like if people didn't
show up, there wouldn't be anything.
Yeah.
Like this is because of everybody that's here or not because of me.
Well, yeah.
And like, even though y'all did the event and everything, I think Subaru still understood
that there is a market out there, that there is a fan base, that there is a community.
And they wouldn't have had you come in the first place.
Yeah.
So, and then here we are with this amazing spot.
And Joe were, were on, on point when they were like, Hey, let's test this out.
And it's just gotten better.
Yes.
I mean, look, you got people eating, watching soccer, you got kids running around, dogs.
And so it doesn't get better.
Like what better way to spend a summer weekend?
Subaru signs everywhere.
Yes.
This is definitely the Subaru spot.
Yes.
So you guys can't miss us.
Yeah.
But yeah, no, thank you for having me speak on here.
Yeah.
And thank you for doing it.
Okay.
So we're here at Overland Expo.
This is a Overland Expo PNW 2026.
And I'm here with Alexandria.
How's it going?
Doing well.
It's been a great expo.
It's been awesome to meet all the folks who love Subaru as much as I do.
And just really cool seeing all the creative builds and accessories folks have on their
cars.
Yeah.
So what year is your outback?
My outback is a 2016.
I believe it's the limited trim.
I've got the leather in the sunroof, which is pretty sweet.
Yeah.
It's fairly stock.
Okay.
Yeah.
And how long have you had it?
I've had it for over two years.
Yeah.
Okay.
And is this your first Subaru?
Or have you had...
It's my second.
Oh, very nice.
What did you have before that?
My first car was an 06 outback.
Okay.
Passed on from my mom.
Nice.
So I was technically the second owner, but it always stayed in our family and drove
it past 300,000 miles.
Wow.
That's good.
Yeah.
Where are you at with this one?
I think I just crossed 165.
Okay.
So we're getting up there, but it's still going strong.
Yeah.
So you are here by, I guess, invitation from Subaru as well.
I am.
So to create some content and capture things.
So like what are some of the things that you've been doing here as far as content creation
and what they wanted from you?
Totally.
Yeah.
I've been doing content for a few years now.
And so I feel like finally have my bearings when it comes to events that can be a little
overwhelming, feeling like you're going to miss something, right?
Yeah.
Because there's always so much going on.
There's so much going on.
So you really can't capture everything, but I think I've just been really trying to focus
on the community aspects and how just welcoming family oriented, community oriented Subaru
is.
So folks laughing, dancing, sharing meals together.
And there was a lot of that going on yesterday for sure.
So much.
Yeah.
I mean, we even had a dog adoption event.
So that was really cool to see Ruru, I think is his name, get adopted.
Just I think focusing on the organic moments as they happen has allowed me to be both more
present and also more authentic in my shooting.
And it's great too that you're here as a content creator to capture those things, but
you also own a Subaru.
So that's totally that's may not always be the case.
Yeah.
So and then you're here camping with everybody.
So like when you rolled in, is this your first time to Overland Expo?
It's my first time at Pacific Northwest.
So I've been to Flagstaff in Colorado and Loveland, but never here.
Okay.
And is this your first time with Subaru at Overland Expo?
It is.
Okay.
So what did you like when you came into base camp?
I mean, like, I guess kind of what were you expecting?
And then what did you get?
Yeah.
So I came alone, just solo.
And I think at first I was a little apprehensive wondering, you know, am I going to make any
friends?
Like, does everyone already know each other?
And obviously a lot of people have traveled to many events.
And so a lot of people did know each other, but it was no problem at all that I came by
myself.
Yeah.
Immediately, it was just welcomed in and connected with folks camped around me, broke bread,
you know, and shared meals from Chad White's kitchen, which was awesome.
So good.
All the food was incredible.
And I think it just made it really easy to connect with folks in a way that I haven't
been able to at other expos where I also showed up alone, but was just like very disjointed,
I guess, from the rest of the community.
Yeah.
And so what do you think of like the whole layout here of base camp and with it, you know,
all the activities and stuff that they have going on?
Awesome.
Awesome.
I think they did a great job in setting up this as a community space.
It made it really welcoming during the day, you know, after exploring Expo to come back
and sit down and hang out on the mattresses or hanging the hammocks between meals and
just get to meet no people a little bit better.
Yeah.
That's great.
And then it's getting to meet people from Subaru America, which is really cool.
You know, and the people that are organizing this, we've got, you know, Emily, our camp
host, which she's been great.
Did you end up doing any yoga?
I did.
I did some yoga yesterday, which was great on my back after a very windy first day where
I felt like I was kind of running from stuff.
So yoga was a great way to start Saturday.
That's good.
Yeah.
And then what is your kind of takeaway been from this whole experience here at base camp?
I definitely want to come back.
So that's an easy takeaway.
I think also just makes me even more proud to be a Subaru owner.
I love my car, but it's more of a feeling, I think, than a car, right?
Like having this makes me feel connected to other people.
And I think this weekend really just solidified that.
Yeah.
And then like you said, you're kind of apprehensive, you know, about coming here and wondering if
people already know each other.
Because there are a lot of people that travel around together that do know each other, but
then they purposefully reach out to just, you know, just Subaru owners and then have
them come together to meet each other.
Because I know that there's a couple of people that ended up meeting here that they found
out they lived 15 minutes from each other.
And so, you know, it's these kinds of gatherings and Subaru being purposeful about bringing
people together that you can find those connections, you know, that you wouldn't have found otherwise.
100%.
It's just super cool.
Yeah.
I left with a lot more phone numbers in my phone than I thought I would.
I've just focused where I'm like, you know, if you're ever down in my area or vice versa,
let's go for a hike.
Let's get out on the trail.
Let's go do something together.
Even though I've only known them for a few days now, I'm like, you guys feel like friends.
So it's really special.
So what are some of the things that you get out and do with your Subaru?
Yeah.
I mean, I normally have my dog with me.
She is actually staying with a friend this weekend, but love to get out on adventures
with her.
I live in Bend.
So we're super close to trails and camping dispersed and otherwise.
Yeah.
I love to strap my paddle board on top of my car.
I go camping a lot.
I have a pretty, pretty set up build in here.
So that allows me to get out and stay out for even weeks at a time when I really feel
like it.
So I just say it's, it is my base camp for adventure in a way, right?
I do everything out of it, bike, paddle, hike, all the good stuff.
Yeah.
And Subaru's are perfect for that kind of stuff.
Totally.
I mean, that's, I think that's one of the reasons that people end up buying them and
it's, they're great because, you know, it's not anything that you're going to go rock
crawling in, but you're going to be able to go explore places that you wouldn't be
able to and, you know, like a two wheel drive car or a lower car.
You should see some of the things I get up to.
It is quarter line rock crawling, a four by four sign sounds like a challenge to my
Subaru.
Yeah.
And that's good.
That's a thing too.
A lot of people are like, let's see what this thing can do.
Yeah.
You know, and then you take it and are pleasantly surprised a lot of times.
Constantly.
Yeah.
So as far as like the booth over there that Subaru had up, like what was your impression
of that?
And like, what would you say is kind of your favorite thing or aspect over there?
Well, I wasn't expecting to get to meet Travis Pastrana's co-driver.
Yeah.
So that was pretty cool.
Rihanna and seems like an exceptional human and just so many cool stories.
And I think especially as a woman, it's really cool to see other incredible women out there
doing their thing and taking charge and leading.
I also just really loved the space that they set up last night.
We had kind of like a, had kind of a happy hour and there are snacks and refreshments
and it was another good way to just kind of be like, oh, hey, like I met you when I pulled
in that first day and connected in a way that was different than the meal times.
So I found myself congregating in smaller groups here, but that was more of a like, let's all
get together and mix and mingle.
So I loved having both spaces.
And it's also like the party that they had from three to five.
It's advertised in like the whole bulletin, I think.
So it's not, it's not just for Subaru owners.
It's for anybody at the expo to come by and see what we're doing.
And I think that gives people an opportunity that maybe didn't make it over to the Subaru
booth before to come over and then see the vehicles and be like, oh, these things are
pretty nice.
The setups are very cool over there.
I know they had a couple of models with the Yakima setups in the back and the pullout
drawers.
And again, just a great opportunity to see what you can really do with these cars.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And yeah, as you mentioned, Rionne and earlier, she's, and it's really great too because she
doesn't just come in here, do her speech and then leave.
Like she comes in here and hangs out with everybody and tell stories, like you said,
making everybody laugh.
And then she had games that she was doing, you know, last night, which was really cool,
you know, like WRX or BRZ, you know, lifted or lowered.
And that was, you know, really cool.
She did that for a while.
And it's just a great experience overall.
I saw her dancing with a baby at multiple points during the weekend, not her baby.
No, no, but just, yeah, she's just such a great person to be able to do that.
So truly.
Well, thank you so much for your time and sharing your experience here.
Yeah, I appreciate it.
I appreciate your time and it's been great to meet you this weekend and hope to see you
again soon.
Yeah.
And I wish you, you know, well on all your future adventures.
Thank you.
Thank you.
See you out there.
Okay.
Awesome.
Thank you.
All right.
So, Tracy Getty.
Tracy Getty, nice to meet you.
Nice to meet you.
Okay.
So we were talking yesterday after we, when we got to the lunch spot and I was asking
you about your cross trek and then I was asking you about your experience here and everything.
And this is your first time attending anything with Subaru or any like Subaru community and
other people.
Correct.
Yeah.
So which, what year is your cross trek again?
Cross trek is a 2023.
Okay.
And you went from something, well you still have the other vehicle, but you decided to
get a cross trek.
I did.
Because you had surgery you said and it was easier on your knee and everything.
I did.
So, what has your experience been with your cross trek so far since you got it?
So I was very hesitant to leave my existing vehicle because I loved it so much.
I'm like, nothing can be better than what I'm driving because it's been a part of me
for 20 plus years.
And I went in kicking and screaming.
I don't want another vehicle.
And then the second my keister hit that seat I fell in love with.
Yeah, that's great.
Yeah.
And then I went, I went feet first.
I went all out.
Yeah.
Because your cross trek is modified and you've done some stuff to it and it looks really
good.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
I keep adding to it and I can't wait to see what else I can add to it.
Yeah.
So, what was your experience like yesterday?
Because you, I'm guessing, got an email invitation from Subaru of America to attend this?
I did and I was ecstatic.
I'm like, my vehicle isn't up to par with the pictures that I've seen and it's not as
cool as theirs and it's not as big and busy.
But then, yeah, and then next to it I'm like just in love.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, we had some a few stock Subaru's out there.
So, you know, they're very capable even as a stock vehicle.
That they are.
They go from kicking and screaming, I don't want another vehicle and then being super
excited as soon as you got into your cross trek to then be invited by Subaru of America.
Like, how is that going for you?
You know, just that realization.
Just over the moon and Subaru as a company, I am learning that they are just, they love
the owners.
Yes.
They love the community.
And during the off-road adventure yesterday, I got to use my X mode, which I've never
used before.
Nice.
And absolutely incredible.
My other vehicle couldn't do that.
Could not do that.
Yeah.
It's good to hear.
So, I mean, there's a lot of people that don't really know a whole lot about Subaru's
a lot of times and then they get into one and they realize that it's way more capable
than they realize.
Yeah.
My biggest disappointment is that I didn't get one sooner.
Yeah.
I mean, they're great vehicles and like, I like that the cross trek is small because
that's what I have.
And it's just, it's so fun and it's very nimble.
And even as a small car, like you discovered yesterday, it's very capable.
It's absolutely perfect.
And I do camp in it as well.
Yeah.
That's right.
You had it set up for camping.
And it's an extension of my personality.
So, I hang out with myself a lot, but I'm never alone because I always have my Subaru.
Yeah.
Exactly.
And like, as far as the off-road adventure and everywhere that we went and lunch and
all that, like what was your overall experience with that?
Oh, it's fantastic.
I can't wait to do it again.
And I hope to latch onto one of these groups that, that's near me so I can pal around with
more Subaru owners.
And I think that's what's really great about Subaru inviting people out to this because
there are a lot of like, for me and for like Milton and Kerry who led the drive and then
just other people that were in the group.
A lot of us know that there's a community.
We're part of the community.
We get together with other people.
So, you know, we, we have a lot of fun together, but for people like you who didn't realize,
didn't kind of realize that there is a whole community out there.
It's great for all these people to come together and see one that there are other people doing
what you're doing.
There might be people near you that you can get together with that you hadn't have met
before.
Right.
And see what Subaru is doing for their community, for their owners and like, it's just amazing.
Well, and it's one thing to hear about it and read about it, but then it's another thing
to experience it.
Yeah.
So it's really cool, like really cool.
Yeah.
This is like adult summer camp.
Exactly.
That's a good way to put it.
It is like, yeah, it's fun.
So like, so we did the trail ride yesterday and then we kind of had some free time for
ourselves to go do whatever we want to.
And then after that, we were meeting up at Subaru Base Camp, which is at the back side,
kind of the back side of Overland Expo here and PNW.
So going over there and seeing Base Camp for the first time, what was your impression?
The setup is incredible.
And it's a very fancy.
Yeah, it's very nice.
Very fancy.
I am just, I don't know, I'm just mesmerized and it's over the moon.
I mean, it's just absolutely incredible.
And I'm telling my friends about what I'm doing and they're really jealous as they should
be.
Yeah.
And like, so for me, I was here last year to see what they're doing this year with Base
Camp compared to last year.
It's like a huge step up from what they did.
That's what I heard.
So I'm happy that this is my first year.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, last year was good too, but what they're doing this year is like, they're just completely
elevating the experience.
Yeah.
Everything is perfect.
Yeah.
All the tables laid out over there.
So we've got plenty of room for people to eat.
We have professional chefs making food for us, which is amazing.
Coffee.
And then just, yeah, the coffee this morning, that was so cool.
And the yoga this morning.
Yeah.
So just a really cool experience.
And like, so what do you, what is your kind of takeaway from this so far?
I want to live here.
I want to go home.
Yeah.
I haven't even had a chance to walk around and look at any of the exhibits yet.
It's so big.
I was kind of gravitated right to the Subaru one.
Yeah.
So it was perfect.
Yeah.
So like, kind of give a recap of your whole experience, your first night of camping over
there.
So first night of camping, did a setup and then walked around and made friends and dinner
time and the games and the dogs and the people and everybody's just been awesome.
Yeah.
Just been awesome.
And did you have a chance at all to chat with some of the people that are here with
Subaru America?
Yeah.
We already made my two neighbors on each side of me.
They're outstanding.
Okay.
Already friends with them.
We were already making plans.
So when they come up to our neck of the woods, we're going to meet.
I met another gal.
As a matter of fact, she's right there.
We're neighbors.
Oh, great.
We live 15 minutes away.
Are you serious?
Yeah.
15 minutes away.
See, this is why it's such a good opportunity because you can potentially meet people that
are close to you that you didn't even know were close to you.
Yeah.
So we've already exchanged numbers.
So hopefully the next time she does something with her group, I can tag along and see what
it's about.
Nice.
And have you had a chance to talk to some of the representatives from Subaru America?
I haven't.
Not yet.
Okay.
Well, I can introduce you to them.
Okay.
I would love that.
Just so I can fangirl.
Yeah.
We're all incredibly grateful.
So it's Joe that has been, this is kind of like his baby per se of putting this together.
So it has been like, we're just constantly thanking Joe.
Like, thank you so much.
And then he's working with Rune Management.
And then the people that set this up is G7, the actual Subaru booth, Rune Management
Help with Basecamp.
So everybody together is like doing such an amazing job.
And so it's just, it's been great for us to like be invited out to these things.
So I guess, one more second.
Oh, so what do you think of the whole Subaru booth here, the way it's set up?
It's really neat.
Yeah.
It's really neat.
The photo booth on seed paper is cool.
I like the cool thing too is we rode with him.
We rode with her.
Nice.
Just the other people that were part of it.
Oh, okay.
So it's fun to see.
I'm like, I got to ride with that vehicle.
Yeah, yeah.
It's super cool.
Yeah.
It's a really nice setup.
I really like it.
Yeah.
And then they're doing dog adoptions today too, right?
Yeah.
So what's nice too is like last year for the, oh, I'm sorry.
Yeah, for the pet adoptions, they had just kind of like a temporary setup.
They have like the sign that says Subaru loves pets, but this year they have like the whole
enclosure so that it's kind of more of a permanent, you know, enclosure.
And it just gives people more space to go in there and walk around and play with the
puppies and stuff.
So yeah, it's been great.
But yeah, I am, and people, you know, they end up adopting them, which is really great.
That's what they're hoping for.
Yeah.
If they had, if they did cats, I'd probably end up with a pocket full of cats.
I think in Colorado, they had cats last year.
Yeah.
That's great.
Yeah.
So that was really cute.
But so what is your impression of like, so you've had your Cross Trek for a while.
So what is your impression of some of the other factory vehicles that you see in here?
They're amazing.
I'm really happy with my Cross Trek though, because it suits me perfectly.
But I really like to see the other models and what people have done with them.
Yeah.
I've had a lot of ideas of other stuff that I need.
It's kind of dangerous in a way to see what other people are doing.
Well, it's good though, because I adventure in a lot of places I probably shouldn't go,
but my Cross Trek takes me everywhere I want to go.
And there's some like emergency things that I really need to carry with me.
So that helps too.
So I've already got a working list of things that will, that will help.
Yeah.
And that's what's great about coming to these events, not, I mean, because like at Overland
Expo, you see so many vendors that could potentially have something that you can utilize.
But then also, of course, seeing the other Subaru's outfitted with certain things where
you might be like, oh, I didn't think about that, or I didn't know you could do that.
So it's really great to see that.
Well thank you so much for hopping on the mic and chatting with me.
Thank you for tracking me down and chit chatting.
I'd love to talk about Subaru's and being brand new.
Yeah, no.
And that's what's great.
Like that's, that's part of kind of what we're, what I'm trying to do is like talk to people
who haven't had any experience with other Subaru owners like this.
Yeah.
And get their feedback and stuff.
So thank you.
I don't know.
And I can honestly say Subaru owners and the Subaru group are a lot more friendly than
the group that I was a part of before.
Like a lot more friendly.
That's good to hear.
Yeah.
Yeah.
People that drive Subaru's are like respectful and, and we like can admire other people's
builds across all different, you know, manufacturers.
And then, you know, we're just like, because we have respect for what other people are
doing.
And I feel like, you know, it's not that it doesn't come the other way too, but it seems
like Subaru is more open to like being friendly with everybody.
Yep.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
And that's what's great.
Thank you.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
Nice to meet you.
You too.
Okay.
So there's a few conversations I had here where I forgot the little windscreens for my
mics.
I thought that I left them back at the hotel, but they were actually in the rental car.
So I didn't know that and I didn't go back and look for them.
So I apologize for the wind blowing across the mics on some of these conversations coming
up.
All right.
I'm here with Emily.
How's it going?
Good.
Very good.
Nice to meet you.
I love this track.
It's awesome.
I love her too.
And it's like, it's the hatch area is much higher than mine because it's lifted.
So it's like weird seeing it up high like this.
My legs are dangling.
Yeah.
But so what year is your cross track?
21.
21.
Okay.
Which is the same as mine.
Yeah.
Crystal White, Pearl Gang, like that.
So you know some of the people that are here at Base Camp, like Milton and Curie and some
of the others.
But this is your first time doing something like this with Subaru of America.
Yeah.
But this isn't your first time to Overline Expo.
No.
This will be my third.
But it's your first time to Subaru Base Camp.
Yeah.
And PNW Expo.
Okay.
Yeah.
So we did a trail ride yesterday and I was actually behind you for a little bit.
So I posted on Instagram.
Oh, you did?
Yeah.
So I posted on Instagram and I was behind you and you can see the washboards going up
to the bowl.
Oh man.
I was like, these washboards are insane or something like that.
They were bouncy.
Yeah.
I mean, it was like just so back and forth.
But the view is beautiful once we got up there.
So like, what was your experience like yesterday?
Like meeting up with everybody and then going on the trail ride and stuff and then getting
up to the view and all of that?
I mean, I would say epic is like the perfect word for all of yesterday.
I haven't been on that big of a trail run before.
I think the most vehicles I've been on the run with is like 10.
Okay.
I think we were at 20 yesterday.
So that was like a lot.
But I always like watching other people and like their skills and stuff because I learn
a lot from other people and the way they drive.
Yeah.
But yeah, I know we were being responsible and going under 25, but I would have really
liked to go faster.
So those washboards didn't feel so aggressive.
But yeah, it was beautiful up there.
Yeah.
Seeing like the sisters mountains was amazing.
Yeah.
So yeah, yesterday was a lot of fun.
And then so we did the trail ride, we went up to the big bowl, we saw the sisters mountains
and then we came back down and had lunch.
Yeah.
Milton.
Chef Milton.
Yeah.
He didn't cook everything.
He didn't cook.
Yeah.
He's chef.
It's really good.
But like, so I mean, what would you like, I guess your overall experience with the whole
day yesterday?
10 out of 10.
Obviously.
Yeah.
I like to do, I like trying like more technical stuff.
So it was good that there was like pathways to be like, this is the easier side and this
is the more difficult side.
So I chose the right side off the ground.
I wanted to challenge myself and like improve my skills.
And it really wasn't that bad.
And dodging rocks.
Yeah.
Because I mean, you could have done that in a stock cross track, you know, but I, so
last year I think we went the easier route, but I believe.
And then this year I'm like, I'm in this forest or wilderness.
I'm going to take the more difficult route.
Yes.
I was surprised when I look behind me.
I was like, oh, he's doing it.
I had to.
I'm like, I can't not do it in this.
So, so we did that.
And then after we had lunch, Milton was like, okay, you're kind of all on your own.
And then you need to come back to base camp and be here before six.
So what was your first impression coming into base camp?
Oh, I was like, so surprised that I knew there was going to be a lot of supers here, but
like I didn't, you don't believe it.
Do you see it kind of thing?
So yeah, it's just amazing.
Like they thought of everything.
I love the picnic tables the way they're set up.
It's like everyone together.
It's like force connection.
Yeah.
Be together.
You guys love cars.
Be together.
But yeah, it's really, really amazing.
Yeah.
Cause like they're trying, they're, they're inviting people.
I mean, there's, they know that there's people like Milton and Kerry and other people that
are in the community that they've done this before, but they're really trying to reach
out to the general Subaru public and people that own Super Roos that may not know that
there's a community that may not know that Subaru does things like this for, for all of
us.
And then bringing those people together to have them meet up and meet each other.
Then you get invited to do stuff like this with Subaru of America, which is like super
cool.
I know.
I'm so like pinch me.
This is amazing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Cause like there's not a lot of car brands out there that do things like this for their
community, for their, you know, for their owners.
And so it's really great.
So like what are your overall thoughts of like the whole setup, you know, cause we've
got a lot of stuff going on here.
I like all this.
I like that the vehicles are like around the perimeter.
So everybody is like facing each other.
I think that's really amazing.
Yeah.
That's different from last year because last year they were just kind of all just, yeah,
because they, they didn't have it all set up the way they have it now.
Like they're continuing continuously improving what they're doing with base camp.
And so like, cause I was here last year and like I said, everybody was just kind of mishmash
together.
And then when I, whenever I came up yesterday and I saw people parking and saw them, just
like you said, you've got all of the activities in the middle and the cars around the outside.
And I think that's like the perfect setup.
Yeah.
Well, and then at night everybody was just like sitting around and like we had our little
setup, but then people would come over and we're like, yeah, sit down and like hang out,
like spread out, let's do this.
Let's hang and talk and geek out on our cars.
Cause people have their awnings out.
They've got lights under them and then they have like some areas set up for people like
the little campfires with chairs around that.
And then they have like the little tents with the blow up couches in there and coolers with
the drinks.
And it's just so cool how what they've done.
And they have the World Cup on this.
I love it.
I was like, we're going to have this on and never making them watch.
I think that's just the red.
Yeah.
Like, hey, let's, we know this is going on.
Come watch it if you want to.
Yeah, exactly.
And then what about the food?
Oh man, the food's really good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I have to ask them how they cook those potatoes from this morning because they were perfect
fried potatoes.
Yeah.
So or I'm just going to stand over there and watch and start writing my notes.
So yeah.
So that's the chef Chad White and that's that's like his team.
Yeah.
So the taller guy, his name is Dustin.
I talked to him at Overland Expo West in Arizona and he like ran a like five star restaurant
or something like that.
So he's like a professional chef and I'm not sure who the other guys are, but they're
part of Chad White's team, which is just amazing.
But so yeah, the food was really great and I like so I'm vegan and I like that they make
accommodations for everybody because I know there's other like there was some people that
were pescaterian that were in line and you know, they don't eat meat, they only eat fish.
So they have accommodations for everybody, which I think is really nice because they
take it into consideration.
Yeah.
A lot of gluten-free people in the world.
So it's the food is amazing.
It is so good.
I'm looking forward to dinner.
I'm like just going to have my little lunch and then I'm like saving space for dinner.
So Dustin and I were talking about this when we were in Arizona and we were talking about
how like, you know, usually if you're going camping on your own, you might have like burgers
and hot dogs and then like eat a lot of the same stuff, you know, while you're at camping.
But yeah, I mean, sometimes people make different things, but traditionally it seems like, you
know, you want easier food that's quick to make and they're making something different
for us every single day.
Every breakfast is different.
Every dinner is different.
Well, in the sauces, they have sauces.
Yeah.
And they're like, we have three different sauces for you to try.
I'm like, I'm in.
It's so good.
Yeah.
So I had rained a little bit last night.
Yeah, it was lovely.
Oh yeah.
I was sleeping.
So like I was in the car.
It was good.
That's good.
Yeah.
So yeah, I mean, it's just it's such a nice setup.
And then I know you've been over to the Subaru booth.
So what were your thoughts on that?
Oh, I love it.
I mean, that's the first time that I met Milton and Kerry was at an Overland Expo, like they
were presenting in SoCal.
And so it just brings back memories.
And we were like, hi, I messaged you on the internet and this is me in person.
Yeah.
That's really cool.
Yeah.
Watch two talks today.
So living out of your Subaru and then modifying your Subaru.
So the living out of your Subaru, did you learn some stuff for that?
Mostly about like how to use maps and what not.
That's not something that I've done before.
But yeah, doing paper maps and digital maps and that kind of stuff.
Yeah.
Let's go.
So what do you think of like the Subaru booth?
Like it's very thoughts on the way it's laid out.
It's so big this year.
Yeah.
So many cars, so many things to shop for.
I love the photo booth.
I've already utilized the photo booth and their compostable paper that you can plant
and grow seeds.
Yeah.
That part's my favorite.
Yeah.
I know they have seven vehicles in there this year.
So yeah.
One of them has rock spiders that I'm like, I am.
And that's the same spot that we had last year.
And I really like the way that there's, even though you have seven vehicles, you have the
owner lounge and then you have the little stage, you have the accessories,
pet area.
You still have plenty of room to walk around the space, which I think is really great.
And it's like the entrance, which is super cool.
You can't miss it.
Yeah.
So there's some good traffic that comes through there.
So I guess your overall experience with everything so far.
I'm happy.
I'm so happy.
I can't believe I'm here with Subaru.
I just, I can't.
I can't believe it.
So yeah, I'm obsessed with this car, brand.
So it's like,
Cross-tracks are awesome.
Unbelievable to be here.
Yeah.
I love, I mean, I love my Cross-tracks.
This is my first Subaru too.
Like this is one of many.
It's going to be.
Yeah.
That's cool.
And I like that you have the Patagonias.
That's what I have.
They're really nice tires.
And I think they have a really aggressive look.
Cause like when you look at them, they're like, oh, they look so cool.
But a shout out to MyleStar Tires.
Yeah.
Good stuff.
All right.
Well, thanks for hopping on the mic and chatting for a little bit about your experience here.
Yeah, of course.
Yeah.
Happy to chat again.
Okay.
All right.
Thanks.
All right.
Let's do this Bob.
All right, Rafael.
Nice to meet you in person, man.
Nice to meet you.
And to see your Cross-track, it's, I know people talk about your content and like how
you go off road with your car and do kind of crazy stuff, but it's fun to see all that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We drove all the way from Southern California for the Overland Expo and the Subaru Base Camp
Adventure.
And we're just happy to be here and happy to be a part of this with the whole group.
You know, the Subaru Buggy, she's getting pretty old, but she chugged along on the whole
trip.
So yeah, I'm proud of her.
How many miles do you have on it?
It's 160,000 miles now.
Okay.
I'm catching up to you.
I have 146.
Okay.
Yeah.
Well, yours yours?
21.
21, okay.
I mean yours is older.
Yeah, you're doing it.
Did you buy it new?
No, I bought it used with 20,000 miles on it in 2018.
Okay.
So you bought it used with 147,000 miles on it.
Yes.
Nice.
Very nice.
So what was the drive like from Southern California up here?
Uh, I mean, it's a long drive.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We took about a week to do it.
So, yeah, we did pretty much the whole thing in like three hour chunks.
Okay.
And we did a little bit of overlanding and camping along the whole way.
We did one night in a hotel room because it got really hot outside.
Yeah.
But, but yeah, other than that, we camped the whole time.
Nice.
Nice.
Yeah.
So, did it, or did you like track your mileage from where you left or when you got here or
you haven't like a rough estimate?
So yeah, I think so far we've done about 1300 miles.
Oh, yeah.
That's a good trip.
Yeah.
You know, I have a CDL I used to do cross country truck driving.
Oh, okay.
So driving is just in my nature.
It's what I do.
And one of the things that I like is it's a manual too.
Yes.
I have a manual transmission.
Yeah.
So fun.
So fun.
How did you find out about overland expo and Subaru Base Camp and everything?
I re-invited out.
So yeah, actually, Karrion Milton hit me up and told me about it and they're like, we
want you to come.
So we signed up and got it all figured out and that's why we're here.
Nice.
So what were your first, because you've, have you been to overland expo before?
So the only other one I've been to was earlier this year at Costa Mesa.
Okay.
Is that your first time ever going to?
That was my first time ever.
Okay.
So rolling into here for, because like this is different than it was last year.
So what were your like first impressions of Base Camp?
Awesome.
I love it.
You know, I love all the activities and stuff that have set up for everybody.
The food is amazing.
Yeah.
I mean, the eggs this morning were like, I want it to go back for seconds.
It was so good.
Yeah.
I mean, we've got professional chefs cooking for us.
Yeah.
So it's incredible.
Yeah.
It's just, it's just great to have, you know, the whole Subaru B crew out here, everybody
hanging out, you know, especially the PNW crew, you know, we've all been following
each other online for years and actually getting to meet everyone in person and, you know, see
all the rigs in person is just like really made the trip special.
Yeah.
And being able to meet people in person that you've been following online, I think is one
of the best parts of these, you know, adventures and stuff.
Whether you're doing it through something like this or just you happen to be traveling
through somewhere and you're like, Hey, I'm coming through your area.
Let's meet up.
Yeah.
That's super cool.
Yeah.
And I was like, dude, there he is.
Yeah.
Same with you.
I mean, it's like, it's just so fun to run into people.
So like, what would you say is your favorite thing of like the whole base camp here?
Um, I mean, as far as like, like my favorite thing about it is honestly just the people,
you know, getting to hang out with everybody.
But um, I mean, Subaru did a really good job at, you know, making everybody feel comfortable
and welcome and just keeping things fun and exciting.
Yeah.
It's, it's pretty great.
And then what do you think about the Subaru Blue Cobra there?
Oh, I mean, it's awesome getting to see the rigs over there.
Like, uh, you know, the, the, the Rebel rally, Forrester hybrid.
Yeah.
Like that thing is absolutely gorgeous.
So I mean, they built that thing up so fast.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They did that super quick and the livery on it looks incredible.
Yeah.
The colors are really nice.
And the, uh, see the puppy dogs over at the pet adoption.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it's a little doggy bandana for Subi.
Oh yeah.
I saw that.
Yeah.
It's super cool.
Yeah.
It's nice that they're like providing things like that for people that, you know, just
come by with their puppies and they're giving them water and stuff.
So it's just like, I know I've had so many people say that like the booth over there is
just so inviting and people are friendly and stuff, you know, and it's just so different
compared to the other booths.
And it's so big too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a Subaru goes hard with this stuff.
Yeah.
Clearly they put all this together.
Yeah.
You know.
Yeah.
They've done an amazing job and it's great that they have so much passion for those of
us that have so much passion for our cars.
Yeah.
I mean, it's, it's really great because you don't really see other car companies doing
that, you know, like they, they know how much people love their Subarus and they, you
know, they bring it all back, you know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, and, and, you know, I mean, they're, they're taking recognition of what we're doing
with these and like how we like to modify them, which, you know, kind of led to the wilderness
additions, but, you know, they're, they're taking notes or watching what people are doing
and they see how excited we are.
But, you know, this whole setup too, like people have their awnings out, you know, there's
plenty of room for people to do their stuff and then I'm going to go pivot over here.
But we've got this little area set up over there where they have like, you know, this,
they've got two of those.
We've got this one here and the one in the far distance.
So these little tent areas where people can just set up and, you know, hang out and it's
just awesome.
And the Subarista.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Subarista is so nice.
Yeah.
I think it's awesome.
The loyal.
Yep.
But yeah, just all these people coming together because of Super Room, you know, because they,
they wanted to help do something for their community and for their loyal owners and,
you know, that's, it's great to have content creators here too to show what Subaru is doing
for the community to see, like, you know, show people like, hey, Subaru of America
is showing up for the community and they're doing really great things.
And, you know, and I have a feeling there's just more to come.
Oh yeah.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
I think they're just getting started.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And Joe, Joe is Subaru, he's been doing such a great job, you know, pulling these things
together and, and putting these programs together.
It's, it's been great working with him and getting to know him over the past couple of
years.
Yeah.
Great.
I actually haven't met him yet.
I'll have to go and introduce myself.
Yeah, we'll do that.
Yeah.
And Emily too.
Emily the camp host.
Oh, she is.
She is fantastic.
Yeah.
It's just bubble of happy energy.
Yeah.
She's doing the yoga in the morning, you know, she's just helping set this whole thing up
and creating a great experience for everybody.
And she's doing all of the events this year, which is super cool.
Cause last year she did, I think, I know she did Colorado and she may have done one of
the other ones, but they wanted her to come back.
Oh, she did Colorado and she did Virginia for sure that I know of.
Yeah.
She was at Costa Mesa also.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, so they were like, Hey, we want you to come back and do all of the events this year.
So that's been super great for her.
Yeah.
I'm glad to see that for her.
Cause yeah, she's doing a great job.
Yeah.
Cool.
Well, thanks for talking with me and thanks for chatting about it.
Absolutely.
So I'm standing here with Joe and it was easy to remember his name because we've got Joe
from Subaru of America.
So I always try to make like do a name association.
Like if somebody else that I know that has the same name.
So it was great to meet you yesterday.
You as well.
Out on the trail.
We were talking some before we went into the cave, which was really cool experience.
Yeah.
But this, is this your first time to Overland Expo?
This would be my fourth, but third full weekend.
So last year I came for just one day.
And then I came the first two years that they had it here in Redmond.
But last year you were actually invited by Subaru of America and you were only able to
come for one day.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I had kids stuff.
So I just said, I'll come down Sunday for fun.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And did you, did you come to the base camp that they had or were it, since you were here
just for the day, did you mostly just go to the booth and the Expo?
Both.
I came back and saw a couple people that, that I recognized back in the base camp and
then kind of meandered around the full Expo for a little while.
So you saw the base camp last year compared to this year.
So like what were your thoughts rolling up to this, this year?
Like this is 10X at least, if not more what it, what, what I saw on Sunday last year.
Like this, this is, this blows me away.
It's so crazy.
It's so awesome.
And just like all the things and then the people that are putting it on are just amazing
and great.
And yeah, there's nothing negative about it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Maybe the wind.
Yeah.
I mean, we've got professional chefs cooking up food, which is amazing.
And then I was talking to Emily earlier and she pointed out, she liked it.
They've got everybody kind of like around in a circle, which last year they were just
kind of mishmashed around, you know, but you have all the vehicles around and then all
the activities in the middle.
And it's just the way they have it set up is super cool.
Yeah.
I'm sure they learned a bunch from last year, this year and, you know, made the changes.
And it seems like they kind of elevated the base camp in general.
100%.
And it's just like, it's second to none.
It's crazy how cool and how great it is to be here.
And it feels, it feels great to be involved and to be able to be here and get the opportunity.
So.
Yeah.
And be invited out by Seabrooves America.
That's like, that's, that's really cool.
So what was your experience like yesterday going on the trail ride and then going to
the cave and all that?
Bouncy.
Yeah.
It was very bouncy and dusty.
So I mean, some crazy washboards and yeah, lots of dust.
Yeah.
No, it was, it was a ton of fun.
That's probably the longest, uh, like trail drive that I've been on, um, in this car at
least.
And it was, it was a ton of fun just going with everybody and the radio banter and just
seeing, you know, getting to the big bowl and everybody's just one by one, starting to
drive into it and kind of kind of drive around and be, be a little crazy.
So it was, it was a ton of fun.
And then obviously lunch from, from Milton, it was, it was outstanding.
It was great.
Yeah.
That was really good.
Lots, lots of fun.
Lots of, lots of good memories.
So how did your ascent do on the trails?
Cause I've, I've been with somebody that owns an ascent and she and her husband have one
and you know, they've got it lifted and they've got some method wheels and, and all terrain
tires and stuff.
And so I've seen them like, you know, in, in Texas in a spot that, you know, that seemed
to do pretty well.
So how did yours do yesterday?
It did great.
I went, I aired down, uh, for the first time.
Okay.
Uh, it helps to like 20.
Yeah.
It really did help.
And, um, just put, you know, put the gas in and go and it just, it just goes.
And even that big, that hill going up to the, to the cone, I was like, well, we'll see
if this, uh, yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
There's no way that I was going to take the, the easiest.
I was like, no, we're going to make it challenging.
Well, and you know, everybody said, you know, people are saying all the cars here should
be okay.
And I've done some shorter hill climbs, um, in this.
And so I was like, well, that, um, we're good.
Let's just go.
And it was, it was fun.
It was a, it was a fun trip up the, up the hill.
And then, um, interesting to kind of drive around the rim and see all those views.
It was, it was awesome.
Yeah.
It was beautiful up there.
Uh, so like, what, what, what do you think of the whole Subaru booth over there?
That's cool.
That's really, really neat.
Uh, it's, it's cool to see owner cars.
That was one thing that really stuck out to me last year too.
Yeah.
Is seeing owner cars in there and seeing people that, you know, are buying them and modding
them and using them.
And then that Subaru is actually, you know, showcasing them and having them there and then
seeing like the six, the new, uh, outbacks there.
Um, and then getting a little more up and close, close and personal with, uh, Carries
Forrester.
Yeah.
That thing is, that thing is great.
Yeah.
So just all, all the stuff, you know, puppies were there.
Yeah.
That was heartbreaking to walk away and not have a puppy.
Yeah.
It's just, it seems just like, Hey, you're one of us.
Come on in and join, join our, join our family, join our area.
You want this, do you want this?
And they really just like take care of everybody more than I think any manufacturer that I've
seen, uh, at the expo.
Yeah.
And what's cool too about like having the owner vehicles in there is like that says
that Subaru supports what people are doing with their Subaru's, you know, because they're
taking a factory vehicle and building it into something for themselves and something
that is purposeful for the things that they love doing.
And then it also shows that, you know, Hey, we love these cars.
We love modding them.
And Subaru says, yeah, we love you too.
And we see you.
And, uh, it's great for them to have them in there.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
That's the best thing is like, okay, you're, you know, like you said, you're taking the,
the vehicles and you're, you're putting your own spin on them and we want to support you
in doing that.
Yeah.
Um, and try to, try to help that out.
Yeah.
So what would you say is your favorite part of the Subaru booth over there?
Was your favorite part of the, um, space camp here?
And then what was your favorite, like part or aspect of yesterday's trail ride?
Um, I think the favorite part of the booth so far is the, the class area.
I think that's really neat to, to incorporate that and have those, those kind of small talks
for people.
Base camp so far, I don't know, being able to just hang out and watch World Cup last
night was awesome.
Yeah.
That was, that was really fun.
And I mean, obviously the meals have been, been great.
And then the favorite part of the trail ride, I don't know, that was, it was all a ton of
fun, but I think the climb up to the, the bowl was, was cool.
And then just being up there and seeing, seeing people kind of cruising around and having a
good time.
I was like, uh, I wasn't going to do it.
Yeah.
I'll watch other people do it.
Yeah.
So like with, um, the way they have everything set up here at base camps.
So I was talking to Dan earlier and he's with Rune management, which they have worked
in conjunction with Subaru to set all this up.
Yeah.
And he was like, we're just getting started.
So I'm guessing they're going to be doing more stuff, but is there anything here that
you saw that you're like, you know, maybe we could do it a little bit differently?
Or do you have any ideas of like, I would like to see this at a setup like this next
time.
Honestly, I can't think of anything.
I feel like they knocked that out in park.
Yeah.
Like, you know, Luma brought out the, the, those rocking couches that are really, really
comfortable.
And it, there's just like little pockets to hang out in and then the big, the family sized
dinner tables and the tables in the middle.
That I think that's a really cool idea to create more community.
Um, you know, having the, having the World Cup going on right now kind of brought people
into, into the little theater area and stuff.
So I, I don't think anything that I can see that could be improved at all.
Yeah.
No, it's fantastic.
It's a, yeah.
So, I mean, if they are thinking of other things to do, it'll be interesting to see
what they do next year.
Yeah.
You're like, how do you improve on this?
You know, exactly.
Exactly.
It's like so awesome.
You did great.
So keep it up.
Yeah.
I don't think you can.
Definitely.
I would make sure that my email stays on the list.
Exactly.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, thank you so much, Joe.
Absolutely.
It was nice meeting you.
Thanks for talking.
Yeah.
And, uh, cool.
I'll enjoy the rest of the event.
Thanks.
He's welcome.
All right.
Okay.
I'm here with my buddy, Sierra again.
If you happen to listen to the Zubian you podcast and hear, you hear me ask the question,
do you prefer waffles or pancakes?
This is where it came from.
So I don't even remember exactly how it got started.
I think we were in a discord chat and you happened to ask it or something.
I think it was a patreon episode.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We were allowed to ask questions to the man behind the pod and I of course posed that
question because it's the most important one of all.
It is.
And so I've been running with it ever since.
So thank you.
All right.
So, um, you've been here for a little bit.
I saw you earlier.
So what is you've, you've been around, you know, I know you're not camping here, but
you've been around Subaru Base Camp.
So what are your like first impressions of this layout here?
I like this layout.
I think it's, it works pretty well, especially over, over yonder, there's a little like central
area with like, carries a pop up and all the cars next to it.
And I think it, I really do like this kind of layout.
Yeah.
It's working out well.
It feels inviting.
It feels comfortable.
I guess you could say.
Comfortable is a very good word, especially with the new Luno benches that they brought
in.
That's really nice.
Excuse me.
So I'm sure you've been over to the booth.
Cause I know you're at the booth last year, so it's, it's pretty similar setup.
So like, what are your thoughts and impressions on the booth?
I like the booth this year.
Yeah.
It's pretty good.
It is a little bit different.
They've got seven vehicles in there, which is really cool.
They have, um, so they have carries, uh, Forester, they have, uh, Andy and Mercedes.
They have their personal cross-track than the cross-track that they took on the trans
America trail.
I think that's what it's called.
They have the, uh, trail seeker, the electric vehicle.
They have a factory Subaru outback 2026, the, um, wilderness edition.
And then, uh, they have Benjamin's BMC adventures.
I think that's what it is.
Yeah.
They have his outback.
So, and then I think one more.
But yeah, it's pretty nice.
Yes.
It's a good setup.
I want to say congratulations because let people know why I'm congratulating you.
You did so.
You had a pretty big milestone.
So for those who do not know, I have graduated from my degree program last Thursday.
I am now the proud recipient of an associate's of applied science and engineering technology.
Very nice.
So the last week is basically just kind of been, take literally the last week since has
been kind of a whirlwind.
Um, literally not even same day after graduating, my parents who were visiting me for my graduation.
Uh, for those who don't know, they live out of a Mercedes eco-sprinter van.
Super cool.
And they, they had to be back where I used to live in Tahoe on the 22nd.
So graduation was the 18th.
So we literally packed, packed my car up for camping trip and we drove down to Tahoe literally
the same day as graduation.
We went Mount Hood to Mount Chasta and then down to Tahoe.
And so basically this time Monday, I was in my car.
And I think, I think probably in Oregon at that point, driving home from California for
an absolute whirlwind for days.
And I say whirlwind, not lightly.
Like it was a lot of moving and driving in a four day period.
I think I covered like 1500 miles.
Yeah, that's a good distance.
And then I had worked the last three days, which were absolutely hectic.
Yeah.
But now you're here.
And then this trip, which was so last minute.
Okay.
So, so last minute.
You weren't originally planning on coming out?
No.
So crazy, crazy thing when I was in California, I was having an electrical issue with the
car.
Okay.
So from normally when I am driving, my car means at 14 volts every single time.
Okay.
Rarely drops below that.
For whatever reason on this trip, I kept dropping below, to like 12 volts,
which is not as good.
Yeah.
And I was like, okay, I was kind of on the fence about coming to Overland Expo before
So then when I had that issue, I was like, okay, maybe I should stay home.
Yeah.
And then that issue magically fixed itself last night.
Where you go?
So I was like, well, might as well come out.
I'm coming to Overland Expo.
So literally last night at probably 7 30, I bought my ticket and then woke up at 4 30
this morning, not wanting to.
Yeah.
I did.
I wanted to wake, I was planning to wake up at six, but my body said, no, 4 30 sounds
good.
All right.
So I hit the road by 5 30 and here I am.
How long does it take you to get here?
Four hours.
Okay.
And then you're going to go back tonight?
No.
Or are you staying here?
I'm camping with friends off.
Okay.
Awesome.
Cool.
Well, welcome back.
Yeah.
So this will be.
And you know a lot of people here too.
Yeah.
This is my third Overland Expo I've been to every single P and W except for 2024.
Okay.
Could not go because I had too much going on, but here we are.
Yeah.
It's a good event.
Yeah.
We're happy to have you again.
Of course.
All right.
I know everybody gets a kick out of me being here.
Hey, everybody likes seeing each other, you know, and it's cool because like I'm coming
from Houston and so I don't get a chance to see a lot of people too often.
Well, we had Sam fly out from Massachusetts.
I know.
I know.
That's super cool.
I know he was, we were talking and he was like, okay, you know what?
I'm coming out and I was like, dude, that's super cool.
So yeah, the gang is together.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, thank you.
I was happy to top on the mic a little bit.
Sweet.
Cool.
I'll take the mic back.
Okay.
So I'm here with my buddy Sam.
We met up last year at Virginia.
Yes.
You met for the first time.
Yes.
And since we've, I've had you on the podcast and you've been a patron.
Thank you so much.
Absolutely.
And, but besides the people from like Subaru of America, you may have been the person that
flew out the furthest.
So we were chatting online.
Tell everybody where you fell from.
I flew from Western Massachusetts.
I'm talking about the airport in Connecticut, but that part of Eastern Connecticut, West
Massachusetts is where I flew out from.
Yeah.
So how, did you get a direct flight or?
No, no.
Of course.
My walk is not that walk.
I had a flight from Minneapolis.
Hard for it to mean theapolis.
Minneapolis to here.
Then get a couple out.
You rented a car in Joe Bob about three hours ish to Redmond last night.
Okay.
Cool.
Yeah.
So where are you staying overnight?
I'm staying at hotel in Redmond both.
Okay.
It's away from here.
So nice.
Nice.
That's close.
Yes.
Yeah.
So it's cool that you decided to come out.
I'm sure this is probably your first time coming out to the Overland Expo P and W.
Right.
Yes.
Not my first time.
Not my first time in Oregon.
I did with here for your period of time.
Yeah.
However, my first time at Expo P and W. And I definitely want to come back next year.
Yeah.
Awesome.
So coming into Subaru base camp here, you've been kind of wandering around and chatting
and checking things out.
Like what are your first impressions of base camp here?
Base camp here is awesome.
It's a lot more Subaru's than we're here at Expo Virginia.
Expo is from Virginia.
Yeah.
There's a lot of people who we just don't know.
I don't know.
And why people here, but everyone's been so talkative and wanting to share stories and
let me check out their rigs and their setups and yeah, it's been great.
I miss my race.
I don't have it here.
So yeah, I know.
I know.
Let's have rental car.
Yeah.
Overland Expo, Virginia, you had your rig set up there, not with Subaru, but who did
you have it set up with?
I set up with Overland Expo itself.
Yeah.
Overland Expo has a part of it called this, do yourself showcase displays.
And I applied for my 2015 Super Forrest in there and I won.
I was given permission to be in the show, having on display.
I had a time where I had to talk to people about my vehicle, but being able to do all
that was definitely a pleasure.
Yeah.
So thinking of like Overland Expo, Virginia, like that booth compared to this booth, like
what are your thoughts of the booth over here at P&W?
I think the booth here is awesome.
I think it's a little bigger, more stuff to look at in more vehicles.
It seems more open.
Yeah.
In Virginia, I think it felt a little bit more scrambled, but the Overland Expo here
seems a lot bigger, much larger, more space to spread out.
Yeah.
I'm enjoying a lot more.
Yeah.
What would you say is your favorite part of the booth over there?
Getting a look at Kari's new Forrester.
Yeah.
No, it's so awesome.
The thing is awesome.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, just the fact that she's taken it in the Rebell rally and she's like had it at
events and just gets to experience driving that thing, not just at events in the Rebell,
but like she's been driving it off road, testing it out and really putting it through a lot
of tough terrain and it's just doing amazing.
She's being the guide for the new platform.
Yeah, definitely.
Because I do have a 20-6 Forrester award and I said we'll be building out in the short
time.
Maybe we'll be able to talk to Milt and talk to Kari here about what they like, what they
don't like, what they've found to work.
Okay.
That's been a great resource.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just far.
So what would you, I know you're not camping here, but like just looking around, what
would you say is your favorite part of like what they've done with Base Camp here?
Just how open it is.
Yeah.
I understand people want to park together, but it seems to be just like wherever you
want to park, wherever you want to park.
Yeah.
And have all this, seeing all the different types of setups and people have ground tents,
people have hammocks, people have rooftop tents, people have camping in the back of their
vehicle, just all of just the high diversity of all the arrangements, being able to see
the different rigs.
We have an electric Sotero over there.
Yeah.
We have a lower BRZ over there.
I know.
I know.
You get to see the wide diversity of super owners and then that's awesome.
And there's also a lifted WRX over there too.
Yes.
Which is really cool.
So you've got pretty much everything here.
Yeah.
And everyone came here for one purpose.
Yeah.
Everyone's having a great time.
That's really all we can ask for.
Yeah.
And then Subaru of America bringing all these people together is like super cool.
I don't think I know of none of the brand that does that.
I know.
None of the manufacturer puts their own money out to help host these events.
Yeah.
Because this is a big deal.
It's a big deal.
Yeah.
The base camp compared to last year is way elevated.
I think every year they keep improving.
Every year they keep learning and we're going to keep improving because we keep doing it
every year and we keep pedering.
Yeah.
And when people are going to be able to come and we can make some more friends and I'll
fly back out next year and we'll do it all over again.
Yeah.
I mean it's just a great way to bring people that are already in the community but also
people that don't really know that there's a community because they're reaching out to
just like everyday Subaru owners that may not have an Instagram account.
They may not know that somebody lives 15 minutes away and then they come here and find out that
like oh my gosh you live like really close to me and now we can get together and hang
out.
So it's a really good way to...
It's make your friendships.
Yeah.
And then they have like the long tables that we can commune together and stuff and bring
people together.
One of my favorite parts so far...
...forced these interactions.
Absolutely.
One of my favorite parts is being able to actually see the rigs I follow on Instagram.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
I've been doing the wild river to go and I see Starscream and Shushikin 12.1.
Be able to see these rigs in person is really something really special to me because I'm
going to try to talk to the owners the way I leave but just to see these vehicles in
person is awesome.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a really cool experience.
So well thank you for hopping on the mic.
Absolutely.
Thank you for the privilege.
Yeah.
Okay.
So I'm standing here with Ollie man.
How's it going?
That's good.
How are you doing?
Good.
Nice to meet you.
Yeah.
I like...
I came up to you because I saw that you have these awesome...
Yes.
...Rica wheels.
These T-tons.
Those T-tons.
I have the same ones.
That's right.
Yeah.
I was like, okay I got to go chat with this dude.
Yeah.
No, I appreciate it.
I appreciate it.
Yeah.
Thank you.
So did you get an invitation from Subaru to come out to this?
Yes.
Okay.
Yes I did.
Yes it was unexpectedly but yeah.
Just got an email one day that said, hey this thing is happening, this base camp thing.
Yeah.
I filled out a survey or whatever and sent it back and that was that.
Very nice.
And then here I am.
Were you ever expecting anything like that when you bought this Cross Track?
No.
Never.
So I've always been aware of the community that's around Subaru's and I've owned Subaru's
for a number of years.
So that's not new but this experience is completely something different.
Completely unexpected.
And what year is your Cross Track?
It's a 2022.
Okay.
Yeah.
Mine's a 21.
Yeah.
So you got to 2.5.
I did.
Yeah.
So kind of one of the reasons why I got it.
Right.
Because I was like I have to have the bigger motor.
Yeah.
I see and I had to have the manual.
I know.
Even though it's a two point slope.
I know.
But I get it though.
It's fun.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I do.
I missed the stick.
So.
Yeah.
So we went out yesterday.
We hit some trails.
We went through a cave.
We got in this big giant bowl.
We did.
You know.
It's all the three sisters mountain.
Yeah.
It was awesome.
Like do you live here in Oregon?
No.
So we live in Washington.
Okay.
In the city of Puyallup.
Okay.
Specifically.
All right.
It's about an hour or so south of Seattle.
Okay.
Yeah.
And then how long was your drive from there to here?
Five hours.
Oh, it's not too long.
Yeah.
Five and some change.
But yeah.
Five hours.
Yeah.
And then did you all get here like Wednesday night and camp somewhere or something?
Yeah.
So we left.
We left home late Wednesday night.
Okay.
Later than we wanted to.
Okay.
So we got to the hotel the first night on Wednesday night.
Gotcha.
At 2 a.m.
Something like that.
So we slept three hours and then.
Oh my God.
Because you had the.
On Thursday morning.
Yeah.
You had to meet at 7 30.
Oh my gosh.
You're like, okay, let's do this.
Yeah.
Committed.
Let's make it happen.
Yeah.
So drive in here, you know, getting there really late and having to get up early morning.
Like, you know, I'm sure you're tired, you know, but like was the experience yesterday
totally worth the lack of sleep?
I mean, a thousand percent.
It was okay.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
I mean, kind of knew that that was the excursion we wanted to go on in that drive.
And so it was at that point it was, it was like come hell or high water.
We're going to do it.
Yeah.
Whatever.
So lack of sleep and all included.
Yeah.
We'll do it.
So you did, you did the one we did, but like, and so there was another trail ride that
people did.
Did you have the option to choose which one you wanted to do?
Yes.
Okay.
Yes.
Okay.
So we had four options, right?
Cause one involved a hike at Smith Rock.
Yeah.
And then there was the other drive, our drive.
And then, oh, I guess the fourth option was just coming here.
Yeah.
Set up ahead of time.
But yeah.
So we could choose.
Gotcha.
Yeah.
So yeah.
So we started off at Smith Rock, which was really cool.
Yeah.
And they provided breakfast for us and then they gave some instructions on what we're going
to do for our particular trail ride.
And then we headed out.
We got out there to the trails where it was really dusty and bumpy and stuff.
So we went to hike to the cave and then like we said earlier, drove to the bowl.
Yeah.
So like, what was your overall experience with yesterday?
I mean, so the whole day, the whole excursion was fantastic.
I mean, the destination was great.
I mean, you know, the stops along the way and the trails that we got to drive on are
all great.
I think the highlight for me was having all of those cars out there and all the Subaru
folks out there.
Yeah.
Everyone just sort of jello with the day.
Right.
Yeah.
And these are folks that maybe some folks know each other, of course, but not all of us,
right?
Just coming out meeting new folks and getting the thing done.
And I think that reinforcement of the Subaru community, right?
In real time.
Yeah.
What's the highlight?
Now, like where you live, do you have, do you know other people in your area that have
Subaru's that you get out with?
Or was this your first time like meeting up with a bunch of people going out?
Yeah.
So we're, this was the first excursion of this type for us.
Okay.
We're newly transplanted from California.
So we haven't been in Washington for that long.
Okay.
We've spent maybe seven months or so.
Oh, wow.
So yeah, because of that and moving in such and all that that brings, right?
We haven't had a chance to get out with local folks yet, even though I do know of some around.
So yeah, yeah, that's the idea going forward.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Getting hooked up.
Yeah.
You know, that own, own Subaru's, but knowing that everybody was invited out by Subaru of
America.
Right.
That's super cool.
Absolutely special.
It's great that they're doing this for the community, you know, and for everybody.
So, so like yesterday was really cool.
It was a long day.
It was a lot of fun.
And then we roll into base camp.
So like, what was your first impression of what they've done here at base camp?
So again, this is like a lot more than I expected.
I mean, I, you know, I figured we'd have a cool place to put our stuff and set our stuff
up.
But, you know, this layout is, is incredible.
It's in sort of with the, with the X-Bow course, like integrated, right?
And that's cool.
So we're not out somewhere on the outskirts of the location.
But yeah, I think even the details as far as how things are set up here, how things
look, the aesthetics, the whole nine yards, the food, it's, it's, it's just, it's been
incredible.
It's a whole lot more than I anticipated.
So yeah, cause it's like, you know, you're coming into something that you don't know
what.
And if you've never seen it before, cause like this is a lot different than it was last
year.
This is like way elevated from what they did last year.
So you coming into this for the first time like this, it's like, oh yeah, this is pretty
cool.
Yeah.
Yeah.
For sure.
The way that they've set things up.
So like then what about the booth over there at Overland X-Bow?
So the, the booth is cool.
We, um, this is our second X-Bow.
Oh, okay.
And we did one last year.
It was the inaugural one in Southern California, right?
Yeah.
Costa Mesa.
So we did that one.
We were still living in California at times.
We just drove south for that.
And so we experienced that booth sort of thing there.
Yeah.
And I haven't been to Costa Mesa.
So I had no idea what that one looked like.
Yeah.
So I would say that this is again elevated compared to that one, but similar, similar,
the booth portion of it.
So yeah, that's an entirely, you know, different cool experience, you know, just having things
to do there.
And then the cars on display and everything else, it's, yeah, it's great.
Yeah.
Cause I know they have the owner lounge, which is really nice.
So people can come in there and just sit down and, you know, grab a drink, grab a snack,
and then you've got the pet adoption area.
The accessories is new this year.
So that's really cool to see all of that.
But like, so for yesterday, uh, base camp here and then the booth, like, what would
you say is your favorite thing of all three of those experiences so far?
Man, um, that's a hard one to pick out, man.
When you got a whole bunch of good things, I know.
I asked tough questions.
Well, I mean, look, I think, I think probably the excursion, the drive we did yesterday probably
really, I mean, this base camp thing is hard to beat, man.
But yeah, you know, I think again, just seeing folks out in their cars, in the variety of
cars, right?
And we're all doing this thing with our vehicles that they were intended to do.
They were built to do their capable of doing all of that.
Right.
So seeing it in action throughout that whole span of varieties of cars was awesome.
That's really cool, unique experience for sure.
Yeah.
What would you say your favorite part is about base camp here?
Um, yeah, I think I'm going to fall back on the community aspect.
We're all in this little space together, we have our setups, you know, hanging out, eating,
drinking together.
Yeah.
There are things to do.
You can also do nothing and it's still cool, you know, like it's, and again, it's like a
mini car show, right?
You get to walk through and see people's rigs, right?
And I mean, how cool is that?
You get them all in the same space at the same time.
So it's nice.
Yeah.
And it's such a very relaxing environment.
Yeah.
You walk out in there, you've got all the areas to sit down.
You've got little fire pits that you can get around.
So when you were here last night, like what were some of the things that you were doing?
Oh, we did a lot of just chilling.
Yeah.
You know, we had, we came off of like three hours of sleep the night before, you know what
I mean?
So I was like, we're just going to relax as much as we can do.
We'll try to get done.
So we just hung out with some folks we had met earlier in the day and, you know, we had
some food, obviously, at dinner time, but mostly just chill and have conversations by
the campfire.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's what, you know, that's what this is all about is just bringing some super owners
together to meet each other and just hang out.
Like you said, kind of like a car show, you walk around because everybody's, you know,
you're going to have a lot of similarities with builds, which are also going to have
a, everybody's doing their own thing.
It kind of thinks different.
Like, you know, you might have the same car or like the same roof rack or you might have
the same, you know, tires or wheels or something like that, but everybody's doing things a
little bit different.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
No, it's a lot of fun.
Yeah.
It's really, it's good.
I'm not, you know, I'm not opposed to stealing a good idea.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
I mean, everybody's here to like inspire each other to, and that's what's cool about the
community is like, you have somebody that's maybe doing something.
You're like, Oh, how'd you do that?
We know what you do.
And, you know, what did it take you to get to that or whatever?
And you don't have people going like, Hey, you know, I'm not going to tell you how I
did that.
Or if it's like, Oh, I really want to do that.
They're not going to be like, Well, I did this.
You can't do it.
You know, everybody is like so supportive of each other's builds and being able to like
just share their knowledge and stuff.
And that's what's really cool.
Yeah.
It makes for a good exchange of ideas and stuff.
And that's, yeah, that's awesome.
So we're just, we're on the first day of Overland Expo.
This is the second night of Base Camp.
So we've got a couple more days here, but, you know, it's probably going to be, I mean,
so we're doing some other things.
So tomorrow night at the booth, we're going to have a party at three o'clock from three
to five.
Music at the booth.
And then over here at seven PM, a Luno mattress is going to come over here and do a little
demonstration with an outback.
They're going to have like a Luno party.
I have no idea what they're going to be doing.
So I'm excited to see what's going to happen.
But they set up all those benches over there, which is cool.
Yeah.
Like, cause they weren't there this morning.
And then I came back later on and like, what are these doing here?
It's super cool.
I didn't know they were even doing that.
I had no idea.
So, so there's more things to come.
But like, what do you feel like is going to be your kind of biggest takeaway from this
experience?
Uh, I mean, for me, I really wanted to do like a Subaru led event, you know, for ever.
I just really, it's always something I wanted to get into if I could be part of it.
So having been given this experience, right?
Like I really, I think my takeaway is like this reinforcement of community is built around
these cars and this brand and all of that.
Like it, you know, it's, I was having this conversation the other night about how it's
different.
I think with Subaru and that we're all sort of united by this brand and we all drive a
different variation of the cars produced by this brand.
But it's the brand I think that can really draws people together as opposed to other
car clubs or whatever, which are typically center around a particular vehicle.
Right?
Yeah.
You might have a Corvette Club, you know, it's not necessarily a Chevy Club, right?
So it's different, right?
That the whole vibe is that.
Yeah, I think that's a really good point too.
I haven't really thought of it that way.
That's a really interesting point because Subaru, it's all Subaru's all of them.
Yeah.
Not just like.
Oh, it's unique.
I mean, of course, within it you have like, you know, like groups on Facebook, like your
Crossgrip group or an Outback group, because they're all trying to like, this is the particular
Subaru that I own and I want to learn like what I can do to modify it, you know, but
then like as a whole, like you're saying, it's like everybody comes together with all
these different vehicles.
Yeah.
And that's what's cool.
It's really cool.
I think that's the, you know, the reinforcement of that community aspect.
Yeah.
That I've always known and always been familiar with for years, just sort of in the flesh,
you know, like living and breathing it for a weekend is always that.
Cool.
Well, thank you so much for your time.
Thank you.
I appreciate it.
I'll see you around all weekend.
You know what, man?
Thank you.
And then shout out to Raika.
Shout out to Raika always.
Yeah.
Always, man.
You got the Milestore Patagonias too.
We have the exact same setup.
I'm telling you, man, that's the setup.
Yeah.
They're great.
So, yeah, man.
Thanks a lot, Ruffin.
Appreciate it, man.
Thank you.
I said I was going to add some fun bits in here in the middle.
So this is what this is.
Rihanna and Gelsimino was going around Subaru Base Camp talking to the Subaru owners and
she was playing a game.
I love this game.
And it was this thing where it was like, this is what we say in Australia.
What do you say in American, as she said?
So this is what this whole segment is was just her.
I recorded a lot of these and I wanted to capture them here too because it was just
so much fun.
She had a lot of fun.
We had a lot of fun.
So, yeah, here we go.
We are here at the Subaru Base Camp at the Overland Expo.
And I'm going to play a little game with these guys.
Everyone seems to get confused with Australian versus American words.
So let's do some Australian versus American car words and see how we go.
You ready?
We ready, everyone?
Let's go.
So if he can't get it, then you guys should start shouting, okay?
We ready?
Now you do.
Now you do that.
I'm sure you'll get it.
We ready?
Servo.
Servo.
What?
It's somewhere we go and we fill up.
Gas station.
Gas station.
Gas station.
Gas station.
Servo.
I think it's like a...
That's what I was thinking.
That's what I was thinking.
Who's cars out?
Anyone?
Is that yours?
I need a hard one because you're good at this.
So they can be like things that relate to like fueling up and things like that too.
Torch.
Torch.
Torch.
Come on guys.
Flashlight.
Flashlight.
Yeah!
You did it.
Oil pan in life.
I was thinking...
Yes!
I was thinking...
I'm gonna pick a hard one.
Yes!
Okay, where we going next?
Cover your number plate.
I just gave away one of my answers.
I said number plate.
Ute.
What is a Ute?
Pick up.
Pick up truck.
Yeah!
That's one of the only people who got it.
Good job!
Is that a K2B scene?
Oh yeah, it's all over the social media's already.
Okay, you ready for it?
I'm ready.
Bitumen.
Bitumen!
What's bitumen guys?
What's bitumen?
What do we drive on?
The Black Car.
The B-Mid.
The B-Mid.
The Car Mac.
The B-Mid.
The Car Mac.
The Car Mac.
The Car Mac.
The Car Mac.
The Car Mac.
The Car Mac.
The Car Mac.
That's bitumen.
That's bitumen.
You can't tell me.
Trick job!
This is what you don't drive on.
I love this game.
Our Australian words are so good.
Yeah, that's a weird one.
I've never heard that one.
I'll show you how it's spelled.
Yeah, I have a pavement as well.
So you know.
So ash-filt or bitumen.
Okay.
Okay, are we ready?
I think so.
Spanner.
Wrench.
Oh!
Oh, that's good.
Oh, that's good.
Yay!
We've maybe got two now.
12
Wait, we're getting our odds better.
Good job!
I'm from the Australian I know.
I know from Ronnie Darl.
And he says Spanner.
Yeah.
There you go.
Right, who's next?
It's all over the place.
Oh, okay.
There's no secret.
Okay, are you ready?
I'm ready.
What is a rim?
A wheel.
Oh, that one was too easy.
That was too easy.
Is that straight in a row?
Oh, my gosh.
I can't go there.
She didn't get oil pan.
I want to say pump.
I'm speaking English.
Guess what it is.
He's wearing a Covid-19 plate, so I don't know if you want me to cover it.
Covid-19 is a tactical explosion.
Okay, your Australian word, boot, is what in American?
Boot.
I know this one.
Come on.
I want to say tired.
Close.
Any ideas?
Boot.
Trunk.
Trunk.
Trunk.
Yes, I win again.
I win again.
I don't know how hard this is, but anyway, we'll try it.
I'm not sure how hard it is.
Okay, let's see.
We'll see how hard it is.
Okay, toe bar.
Toe bar.
Toe bar?
Yeah.
The hitch.
Good job.
Good job.
Good job.
Good job.
Good job.
Good job.
Good job.
Good job.
Good job.
Did anyone else know?
Yeah.
You're trying to get me in here.
Hey, I'm so proud that I got you.
You're going to all of them.
I told them I got there.
Yeah, that was confusing.
I speak so well.
Quickly.
Right, who's next?
Okay, do you know how it works?
I say the Australian version and you say the American version.
Okay, we ready?
God.
God?
God.
What is a God?
Close.
Anyone?
What's a God?
Leo?
Yeah.
Leo well?
That's with F.
Fender.
Fender!
Good job.
Good job.
I got a window by your car.
By your car?
You got it.
You like that?
Yep.
How are you?
Hey, how are you?
It's nice to see you.
You ready for it?
Let's go for it.
Let's go for it.
This might be easy.
We'll see.
I hope so.
Okay.
What is the bonnet?
That is a hood.
Yeah!
That was too easy.
Good job.
What are we doing?
What game?
Okay, what game?
Stand by your car.
Okay.
Where's your car?
Oh, this is it here?
Yeah.
I'm just interested in what type of game is it?
I'm just interested in what type of game is it?
I'm just interested in what type of game is it?
Oh, we should go maybe...where should we go?
This is freaking cool.
Thank you.
Probably the front.
I'm running out of good ones to try and trick him.
Stand by your car.
Okay.
Yep.
Stand by your car.
Oh, boy.
I don't want him nervous now.
Yeah, you should be.
Oh, what?
This one will be easy because I'm running out of ones.
In Australia, we say petrol.
In America, we say...
Gas?
Yeah!
What?
He's like, that's it.
That's all I'm interested in.
Yeah, how would you like...what?
You got easy ones.
We're not easy ones.
I'll give him some hard ones.
I'll give him some hard ones.
Oh, yeah, lusky notes.
Lusky notes.
I can win one I have.
He won't get this one.
Are you ready for it?
I hope so.
In Australia, we say sump.
Okay.
In America, we say...
Puddle?
No.
It's on a car.
It's on a car?
Yeah, it's part of your car.
I'm glad I was the only one.
We got him!
We got him!
We got him!
We got him!
We got him!
Library free music.
Okay, guys, let's help him.
What is it?
Oil pan!
Oh, there it is!
I got ya!
You got him, though.
Bye, guys!
I was running out of good ones, but that one's a hard one.
Did anyone know?
Yeah, you knew it.
People would know that one.
That one's easy, isn't it?
Do you think?
Probably.
Probably easy.
That one's easy.
That one we've just done.
That one's easy.
What's the number plate?
License plate.
What's a puncture?
Oh!
Let's do it!
Who's this?
Someone's car?
I don't know who those cars are.
Who hasn't been on video yet?
Sean or Amanda.
You haven't been on...
Oh, let's get it!
Oh, deep.
No one knew it.
I thought they would.
Did you?
It's because you and I race, though, and we use it in racing terms.
Okay, guys, I'm getting in the middle.
Alright, now that we've volunteered, we're going to get it wrong.
Here we go.
Are we ready?
Not really.
The Korean word we use is puncture.
Puncture.
Oh.
Flat.
Flat tire!
Well done!
Good job!
Well done!
That was like a full-on.
Yeah, it's a whole.
Yeah, because I'm running out of them.
So we say windscreen, you guys say windshield.
What else have I got written down here?
I think I've got through them all.
If I say chuck it in the boot, what does that mean?
Throw it in the trunk.
And what about if I say pop the bonnet?
Pop the hood.
And what about if I say grab a 13-mil spanner?
Oh, no.
Well done!
It's leaking out of the sump.
I'm going to have that one now.
Pass me the torch.
Give me the flashlight.
You're good at this.
And then pull into the servo.
Got station and get going.
Yay!
So now we need to do an intro to it.
What should we do on the intro?
Did this whole game?
Yeah.
I don't know, it's a good idea.
We're here doing some Australian versus American car words.
Enjoy.
Will you be able to video it and all of this jumping together?
I thought of one.
Yeah, tell me.
Oh, yes!
Let's add this.
We can add this as a group.
That's new carpet.
Is it record?
Have I turned it on?
Oh, wait, no.
I can edit it, so it's fine.
Okay, guys, I've got another one.
What was your name?
Robert.
Robert, come up with.
What is corrugations?
Corrigation.
Yay!
You're really good at this.
Okay, are we ready?
Now just do some normal, everyday, general,
Australia versus American words.
Okay, this one's easy.
Mate, what's mate?
Friend, buddy.
What's AVO?
A-R-V-O.
AVO.
Afternoon.
What are you doing in the AVO?
Afternoon.
Brecky.
Breakfast.
Breakfast.
Makas.
Makas.
McDonald's.
McDonald's!
Woo!
Esky.
What's an esky?
A-COO-La.
Good job.
A-COO-La.
What is a stubby?
A stubby.
Maybe we won't do stubby.
It's a bottle of beer.
What's a snag?
A snag.
Snag.
Put a snag on the barbie.
Sausage.
You're really good.
You need to go to Australia.
What's a mozzie?
Moszie.
Mosquito.
Mosquito.
Mosquito.
Mosquito.
The next thing I was doing was doing a custom custom
I appreciate it.
Thanks guys.
How you guys doing today?
Doing pretty good. How are you doing Raf?
Yeah, good. How's this been for you so far?
It's been a lot of fun.
I haven't actually done too much
wandering around.
We're just getting to that today.
We've been doing some trail runs.
Went on one yesterday. Just got back from one a little bit of go today.
Nice, yeah. I heard about that. How'd that go?
It was good. It didn't get to go
exactly where we wanted to go.
It just closed down, unfortunately.
But, you know, we made it.
We found another route out there.
And the trail we were on just kind of vanished into the grassland.
And you can barely see tire marks anymore for a little while.
You start wondering, like, should we be out here?
It just goes straight back to the highway.
And I was like, huh, all right.
That's pretty cool.
So how's your doggo been doing?
Oh, she's loving life here.
She's having a great time.
She's just, you know, everybody's best friend.
Everybody's business.
Yeah, she's doing pretty much everything.
Getting all the pets, all the lovans.
That's always fun, you know?
I mean, Subaru is definitely a place for pets and dogs.
Absolutely.
They definitely go hand in hand.
Yeah. So how about you?
You've been having a good time?
Oh, very much so. Yeah.
So what has been your favorite thing
about base camp over there?
Just hanging out with everybody, honestly, man.
The whole community vibe over there was awesome.
You know, we had a big hang session last night
with Brianna and Gelsimino.
She came out, hung out with us,
did a couple giveaways,
had a little late night campfire jam session.
It was fun.
It was a good time.
And the food is amazing.
Food is so good.
You get well taken care of here.
Definitely, yeah.
They put us up well here. It's quite nice.
It's nice seeing you guys again.
It's nice seeing Sherman, of course, you know?
It's been a good time.
Glad to be out here again.
For sure.
Sun's starting to come out.
I know for the first time today,
it's not as windy all of a sudden.
We might have a decent evening.
So it'll be good. We're getting ready to start
with a booth party here with some live music.
It's a good time.
We're looking forward to it.
Superoo does it right.
Heck yeah, they do.
So let's get it started.
We're here at Overland Expo P&W
2026.
Why don't you go ahead and introduce yourself for the show?
Yep, I'm Mike Cantrell.
I'm out of Dallas, Texas up here enjoying
all the Superoo there is to love.
So it's fantastic.
Okay, that's interesting because I'm from Houston.
There you go.
Did you fly out here specifically for this event?
I drove out here.
In your prostrate?
No, I'm bringing that on the next one to Denver.
I'll be going to Denver and then to Lovewood.
I'm bringing that one out there and it's just been a blast.
I camp out of mine. I have the Cross Trek Wilderness.
Great little fun car to ride in.
I love the gas mileage.
I love how easy it is to actually get into things.
So it's a lot of fun.
Yeah, yeah.
So this is also where before we started recording
you said this is your first Superoo.
It is.
So what made you decide to get into Superoo?
I didn't like, so usually I'm a Toyota
Honda type person.
And I didn't like the way now that they started
to build out their vehicles.
I hate the big computer screen on top of the dash.
I don't like that either.
Everything is built into the Superoo.
It's all low profile, very streamlined.
Yeah.
So what have your thoughts been so far
owning your first Superoo?
I'd get another one.
As a matter of fact, I'll probably upgrade to the Outback
at some point.
I camp out of mine and
if you push the seat far forward
I can get six feet of camping space
out of the back of mine, front to back.
So I'll camp out of that.
I'll put all my gear to the left
of the vehicle, sleep on the right
and it's fantastic.
So what kind of setup do you have for like a mattress
and stuff?
I use the X-Ped mattress.
So I'll blow that up, lay it on the little Home Depot.
There's little, they come
in plastic racks basically.
So I'll set that up. It's all lightweight.
And I'll break it down, lay my X-Ped
down there. Wonderful place to sleep.
Have you ever heard of Luno mattress?
I did. I checked in on today.
They just don't have any at the show
that I wanted to be able to get.
Because you get a better deal at the show
than if you have to buy a second hand.
Well, you might be able to like
order something and get a show deal
and then they can ship it to you potentially.
But I also want to let you know too that
they're going to be over at
Camp Subaru in the back here
from seven to nine doing
they're going to have an Outback out there
and answer questions and stuff. Wonderful.
So if you want to come check that out.
So we'll do that. But
yeah, so it's kind of cool having you
out here from Dallas.
Oh yeah, so easy to maintain.
The great thing about it is
I do like to do my own maintenance.
You open up the hood
and everything's right there. Everything's color
coated. You've got your oil filter
right there. The only thing you have to do
is get up underneath it and you're good to go.
So it's fantastic. So do you have
the OEMs get played on it or have you done
any modifications? So far it's all OEM, which is
why I'm out here. I wanted to come see
this setup here that you have to
share the love event here. Also
in Subaru Camping, I wanted
to check out everybody else's Subis.
Oh, they haven't been back there yet?
No, so it's hidden there. It's amazing.
And I started joining some Subi forums.
I found out about
the stuff that Subaru does
in Flagstaff. They had a huge camping
area for all the folks at Subi
owners. That's why I want to bring mine out
here so hopefully I can do the same thing.
Yeah, so what do you think of the
Subaru booth here? Well, I love it.
It's a lot to learn. Everybody here is knowledgeable.
They've been very
helpful in helping me understand
the things I can modify, the things
I shouldn't modify, and
how well they can do. But stock
really, stock is
good. You really don't need to do
much to them. Yeah, and especially
with the wilderness because you've got a little bit more clearance,
you've got the all-terrain tires,
and it's just, you know,
they've outfitted them so
they're pretty much just ready to go. I mean, even
if you don't get the wilderness trim,
they're still so very capable.
And I think a lot of people that
don't know a lot about Subarus and then
they get into it, they find out that it's
way more capable than they realize. Absolutely.
And they're kind of surprised about that. Absolutely.
And that's what I'm picking up on.
I thought I had to go into it
and start doing a bunch of modifications off
of that. Everybody that I'm talking to
that owns them right now, they're like
brother, you're ready to go. You just, all you got to do
is throw whatever you want in there, and
you're right. You're good at it. Yeah, and the way
that a lot of the people do modify
their Subarus is they modify
it based on their needs.
So like, depending on where they're going, there might
be like, you know what, I'm really
wanting to get to these spots and I could probably
use a little bit more of a lift and
I'm getting into some spots. They're a little rocky,
so maybe I'll get some aftermarket
under body protection, you know.
And then
aside from that, and then of course, you know, they do
have all-terrain tires, but if you wanted a more
aggressive all-terrain tire, you can do that.
But yeah, I mean, it sounds like it's
working out well for you so far. Well, and the funny thing
is here in the all-wheel drive, so that's
something else I didn't know about and how
Subaru was the first to come up with some
of the all-wheel drive. So we just had a big
snowstorm
here back in Dallas. Yeah.
So I thought, what a great time to take
it out in the snow. I found some big parking lots.
It was trying to spin it.
I couldn't spin it. Yeah, and it's hard.
I could not spin it. And so I have a 21.
It's a manual. Yeah. And I was
we had a
big, the big freeze that we had like back
in 2000. Yeah.
It was a 2000.
About four years ago. Yeah, yeah. I can't remember exactly
when it was, but yeah, we had that
and I, like same thing,
there was a big parking lot at the high school
where my daughter went. Yeah. And it was
open. And of course, I had only had my car
for maybe like
four months or so.
And so I was very, I was kind of timid with it.
Yeah, yeah. Like now it would have gotten more aggressive
with it. But even then, like
it was kind of, even on the slick, you know,
snow and icy conditions, it was
still kind of hard to get it to go sideways
even with a manual. Couldn't do it. Yeah.
I couldn't do it. As a matter of fact, they have a
driving course up here.
So yesterday I was up at the driving course
and saw two Subaru's go through
and I asked them as they were
coming back down from the driving course,
they said it didn't even, it didn't
even hesitate going through up the hills
and off camber through everything
that they were doing. And because of the
high lift on it, naturally,
it's like there's nothing you can't do with it.
So there might be some add-ons that you want to do.
I'm looking at getting a
spare tire rack for the back
because I don't want to have the donut
when I'm off in the trail. Exactly, yeah.
I'm looking at doing that. I want to add that.
So I'm getting ideas for which
brand I should probably get. Yeah.
I know Subaru's big on Tule. Yeah.
But, you know, I'm
looking for something a little cheaper. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, I understand. You have to, you know,
get what's best for your budget and everything.
So being in Dallas,
like where are you taking your Subaru?
Mostly it's
either going to be around the Big Bend area. Okay.
So Southwest Texas. That's a long drive.
Or I'm going up into the R, oh yeah, about eight hour ride.
Yeah. Well, anything's a long drive
in Texas. So it's crazy. I know so well.
But Arkansas, there's some great trails up in
Arkansas. Oh yeah, I found some there too.
Fantastic stuff to go out to.
Other than that,
East Texas through Tyler, some of those
areas. Yeah, I have family that's
from Alto. Okay. Yeah.
My first off-roading experience
was in Colorado. Me and my family
drove out to Colorado and did some off-roading
there. Yeah. But yeah,
I love the Cross-Trick. I like that it's small.
It's very nimble and easy
to maneuver, easy to park, you know.
But I don't know, the outback is calling
me too. So. Well,
I'm going to get my wife, now that I know
how stable they are. Yeah.
In the kind of conditions I was trying to put
it through. I was so impressed with
it that I want to get her one now. But I'm thinking
about for her getting maybe the Forester.
Yeah. She likes a little bit bigger
vehicle. And I think the reliability
of what I'm understanding out of Subaru
now is incredible.
I didn't even know it until I started doing research
on it. Yeah. Because I got fed. I didn't either.
Yeah. Right. So. Yeah. Once Honda
started changing their
look and the way that they're putting all the
computer dash, things and stuff.
I just, I didn't like it anymore. So
I looked around, heard some good things
about Subaru, researched it.
Oh, good. Saw how easy it was to work on.
I thought that's mine. Yeah.
And like, you know,
being in Texas, we get some pretty heavy
rains. Oh, yeah. And so like, so
I have, I have the 21 cross track.
My daughter has a 24 cross track.
My son has a 2010 outback.
Nice. So I feel good that all four
of us have or all three of us
have Subaru's and
you know, with the heavy rains that we get and all
wheel drive. I just feel like we're
so much safer with that. Yes. Absolutely.
You can be kind
of hard to avoid, you know,
hydroplaning if there's water on the road.
But just other, you know,
hard rain conditions.
I feel so much safer in it. Solid.
Yeah. Because when you're trying, when you're trying
to get it to go sideways and snow
and ice and it's hard, you know,
it's going to be good with some rainy conditions
on the road. Still a blast to drive trying to do it.
Yeah. But now I know it's solid and I
don't have to worry about it sliding around.
Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's just
been wonderful. So what are some other things
that you really like about it, you know,
other than, yeah, I think
all wheel drive and safety.
For a smaller car,
there's lots of room. There is.
I mean, even in the back seats, you've got a lot
more room back there. And I love
the fact that if you get the sunroof,
the sunroof is massive.
Yeah, it is pretty big. It is fantastic.
So I like the, I like
the solidness of it.
When you shut the doors, there's
a hard thunk to it. Yeah.
I tried out one of the Tacomas because
I thought maybe I'd try a truck for a while.
But they're real tinny, real tinny
sounding. Yeah. Yeah. I think they're just
they're, they're making them lighter and lighter
weight because of the EPA standards.
Yeah. So these cars to me
are just better built. Yeah.
They're solid quality. The reliability
apparently is off the charts.
Yeah. And high resale value.
Oh, yeah. Absolutely. So if you want to change it, if you want to trade
it in every three to five years. Yeah.
You can almost get it back.
And there's some people that are like
trying to see how many miles they can get out
of it. Yes. Because, yes. Because like I said, mine's
a 21 and I have 146,000
miles on it. And it's still on the original clutch.
Yeah. Oh, wow.
Which is impressive. I'm like, I'm surprised it's
less than this long. Yeah.
That's the only thing I do miss is I do wish
I could get a stick. Yeah. Absolutely.
I was just more than driving a stick than anything
else. But yeah. It's kind of the way of the world
now. It's got to be automatic though. Yeah.
Yeah. I know. I have, I need to get another
one, but I used to have one on the back of my
car that said save the manuals. No, there you
go. Yeah. Yeah.
So, yeah, that's, you know, I'm
sold. Yeah. I really, I really enjoy
Subaru. Glad to hear that. I like the people.
Oh, yeah. The people with Subaru,
I'm a big, so I do a lot
of photo shoots for animal rescue groups.
Okay. When I purchased my car, I actually
got to make my donations to animal
rescue groups. Oh, yeah. So they're real big
in the outdoors. They're real big in camping,
real big in overlanding.
And they really help support
local shelters and things. Yeah.
That's all I need. Yeah, they're so big on that.
Yep. Yeah. That was it. So that's what
drove me here. Yeah. Well, good. Good.
It's great. Well, yeah, if you get a chance
to go check out Camp Subaru, so
if you take the loop and go around, it's
like halfway around the loop straight
back. On the backside. Yeah. Yeah. And
like I said, we're going to have
Lunomax. Seven of a Call. We're going to be back
there at seven and nine, I believe. And then
here from three to five, we have a party.
Okay. Yeah. Okay, great. Today.
Happening in like just a little bit. Yeah,
I was going to say we should be coming close.
Yeah. Your name? Rafael. Rafael. Nice to meet you.
Yeah. Nice to meet you too. Yeah. Great. Thank you.
Alrighty. All right.
That was great. Yeah. Thank you.
All right. So we're here
at Overland Expo P and W2026.
I'm here with Amanda. How's it going?
Good. How are you? Good. Yeah.
So you've got some exciting news because
you've got this little guy that you adopted
over at the booth. Yeah, we did. We adopted
him. We just kind of
we've been looking for another dog for a while
and it is, I don't know, it felt right.
We looked at a couple other dogs named, there was one named Dax.
He was a lab mix
and he was kind of feeling it.
He's just kind of chill. Yeah.
But then this little guy just got put on me
and he put his head on my shoulder and I just
That was it.
Yeah. Yeah.
So from what I understand,
you've been to Overland Expo P and W
before. Yeah. Yeah.
We are here last year.
It was just myself.
I looked a little different than I did
last year. Okay.
I didn't have the rooftop tent. Okay.
So it was kind of a nice
nice upgrade. Yeah.
But you were here with Subaru last year too, right?
Yeah. I got invited
Derek, Unpraved,
in W. He just sent me the link. He said,
here try and see what happens. And I said, okay,
I did. He's a pretty good guy. Yeah. Yeah.
I like him. Yeah. He's been super cool.
Yeah. That's cool. So
what has your experience been this year,
especially like coming into base camp
compared to last year? Because it's quite
a bit different than it was last year. It is.
I feel like
it's, it feels
a little bit more open than last year.
Yeah. But like
the community vibes have been
like a ton different. Yeah. It's like
they've put a little bit more effort into
just being out
here and enjoying each other's company and getting to meet new people.
Yeah. Yeah. And then they've got,
what I really like too is they've got the long tables
so that people are
not really forced to sit together, but it's
like encouraged like, hey, let's all sit here
and community. I think
last year they only had one.
Yeah. So this year it's kind of cool that they have
multiple of them so everybody
can just kind of chill together and hang out.
Yeah. And then they've got the stage,
which we've got live music, which is cool, because
they didn't do that last year. And then
of course we've got the chefs, which is
food is amazing. Yes. Yeah.
I was telling my husband about it, who's here with me.
Yeah. And it was like, you're not going to
worry about food. We just have to
worry about lunch, but even the vendors here
are pretty cool. Yeah.
And I actually like yesterday, I didn't even
eat lunch. I ended up
I didn't even eat lunch.
And today I haven't eaten lunch either.
So I'm like, because
I don't usually eat breakfast and
I usually eat a little bit later, but
I'm going to eat this breakfast because it's
so good. Yeah. And then
I'm like, and then I'll just wait until dinner and maybe
have a snack in between. The pancakes this
morning were so good.
Puppy water bowl, I'm giving to your husband.
Oh, thank you.
The pancakes were really good this
morning. Even dinner last night was just
really good. Yeah. They
definitely, they make it
an experience for food. Yeah.
And then again, you know, everybody
eating together. Yeah. So
it's just been, it's just been really fun.
But it's just great that Subaru's
doing this for all of the community.
And it was really surprising to my husband, too.
He like, he got a little surprised. He's like,
he's like, this is just, this is
so cool. It's like, it's just like a community aspect
of everything. He's like, I did not realize it was
it was like this. Yeah. I said, yeah,
it's just like, we're all owners
and we're all from all over the place.
But we get to come here
and just chill out and get to meet.
Yeah. And look at everybody's build
and see what they do because everybody's different. That's
what I like about it. Yeah. And you have a lot
of similarities. Like maybe some people have the same
wheels or same roof rack or
something, but everybody does their
own thing and has their own
little unique style that they have with their build
and it's cool to see what everybody's
doing and then meet new people
that you wouldn't have met before. Yeah.
Yeah. So what do you think
about like the Subaru booth where they've got
all the factory vehicles and owner
vehicles?
It's super cool because
I got to actually sit in the 26.
I have not seen it. I have
not been in it because
I work at a body shop and we haven't had one in yet.
Okay.
And so it's kind of cool to sit in it and tell
my husband, I was like, yeah, there's a lot more leg room
and their head room because whenever he
drives it, he tends to get up there
because he's like 6'5". Yeah.
He's a little up there. I know baby.
You're good. So what are
your thoughts on, I mean, the interior
is so nice, but like the exterior
because I know there's like mixed feelings about it.
So what do you feel about the 26?
As
just a stock vehicle,
I'm not a huge fan of it.
It's growing on me a little bit,
but there was, I believe it was
Rally Tech
who did it. Maybe it was Rally Innovations
who did it.
It just, with the
River Rock color, I believe it is,
it just, it looks so cool
and it looks just so good with
the modifications that they put on it. Yeah.
Even the one that they have over there
in the booth, they just changed out the wheels
and tires and just that alone. Yeah.
The
Oh, God, the gold color
wheels, the bronze color wheels. Yeah.
Yeah, that makes a big difference on it. Yeah.
Yeah. So have you
met like some new people here
as far as, because I know you knew some people
here, obviously, but like,
have you had a chance to meet a bunch of new people
throughout the camp? Yeah.
There was actually, we went on the Crater Lake Run.
There was a
brother and sister duo in the,
in a forester with us. Nice.
They're super cool. I think that's Jamie and Jeanine.
Okay. Got to meet them.
I got to meet Josh Kamilifaz
for the first time. Yeah.
I know a bunch of people from Instagram. Yeah.
And it's like, I've talked to them, but it's like
putting a face to a name. Yeah. Super cool.
Yeah. And that's what's cool too.
And I know that there's people that
are not really like in the community
and they may not know about it and there just
might be some people that are just like
daily driver Subaru owners
that don't know that,
you know, Subaru does this and that don't know
that there's a community out there. So for them,
it's a good chance to meet some people and see
what other people are doing with their vehicles.
Yeah. Yeah. I actually had
some people come by, they were walking through the camp
and just looking at everybody and just talking about
like what I've done to, they're like, oh, that's super cool.
And I'm like, yeah,
I've put some effort into it, but yeah,
it's easy to do. It's easy to
modify. I mean, it takes a little bit of money, but
yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And there's a lot of options.
And I see you're part of the
Max Tracks Micro Crew, which is always
going. I am. Yes.
Yeah. That's cool. I like this too.
You've got the little, so what is this exactly?
The tire table. I actually bought that here
last year. Oh, this one? Yeah.
Yeah. Um, tire table and then I just set up
my little coffee table on there and then
most of the time it's on the front
tire because then I set up my
um, these are
these are later on it. Oh, no.
I'm going to do a little bit of
little weather camping, which kind of wish
I would have had it. Yeah.
I got chili here. Yeah.
Um, but yeah, it's, it was a,
it was a super cool find. That was my buy
last year. And then this is my buy this year.
Yeah. I know. It's
super cool because, you know, of course,
Subaru loves pets and then they bring them.
They do the pet adoption and that's
cool that you adopted one. I know Milton
and Carrie adopted one last year.
Yeah. They got Lola last year. Yeah. Yeah.
Yes. I, I, I've had a lot of fun
this year and just even just chilling out by the fires
and just relaxing. Yeah.
Um, you don't have to go do something every
day. Just kind of chill and just
talk. Yeah. Yeah.
And meet new people. Yeah.
Every time. So, well, thanks for
hopping on the mic and chatting for the world. Yeah.
It was great. I love it. Yeah. It was nice meeting you. Yeah.
Yeah. It was great meeting you too. Yeah.
For me, I get a chance to come out here and meet
a lot of people that I've either been following
or just didn't know, you know, around
the community and then see people again
that I haven't seen in a year. Yes. Yeah.
So, that's fun. I've been solely getting
involved more in the community as well.
Um, especially with like Carrie and Milton. I've been
doing a couple runs with them and then same with
Melissa, um, Schoenfeld's
journey. I think that's what it is. Yeah.
Um, hanging out with her and doing stuff with her.
Uh, she just did the
uh, National Parks
um, run. Yeah. Yeah.
I, I missed that one. I wanted to go on it, but
I missed it. And are you part of the
community or I am part of the
community? Yeah. It was my first year. I got
invited um, to be on there.
I was like super surprised, but yeah.
So, what is your experience being with that
so far? Uh, so far it's been super cool.
Um, we haven't had any issues. We've been
like solely rolling things out and
and just um,
there was people in the community
that I didn't know. Like I knew Carrie and Milton
because they're, they're in my chapter. Okay.
Um, I'm there with Carrie, Milton and Melissa,
those are the people that I knew, but there's like,
people that are chapter leader and
um, a director.
I didn't know. Okay. Um,
but I'm like, wait, I've seen your car
around. Yeah. Yeah.
It seems to happen. Where are you going?
He's excited.
I know. He's probably getting jelly again.
Yeah. Um, yeah.
But yeah, it's kind of cool to like, it's like,
I've seen your car around. It's like, okay, I know
you are now. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's
great that Joe is rolling out the C.B.
Crew and you know, just
popping it here and there. And then I know
eventually it'll be kind of
complete with what his vision is with it.
Yeah. I'm excited to see where it goes.
Yeah. Me too. And I'm going to have him on at some
point to like, talk about it
like after he's kind of launched it everywhere.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. His feedback on
that. So it's going to be cool.
So yeah. So thanks again. Yeah.
Thank you. You're welcome.
So we're here at Overland Expo PNW
2026 and
interviewing another person here, Gustavo.
This is actually my first time sitting
down to one of these. So he
brought out the double chair. It was very nice.
Yeah. So it's nice to meet you, man.
Nice video as well in person. Yeah.
Mostly I just see you
on Instagram or here in the podcast.
So I'm definitely glad that, you know,
we were able to meet at this world-based camp.
Yeah. Yeah. It's cool to like
get to it. It's always fun when you get
a chance to meet somebody in person that you
you know, chat it with online or just follow
or whatever. Yeah, definitely. But
first off, this thing is awesome.
Thank you. Thank you. So
tell us a little bit about this
first. Yeah. So this is
2020. Super
double ax. In this case, it's lifted
measure maybe about like
five inches from stock.
Okay. I'm running
2016
3.6 hour back suspension
with just the front
suspension replacing the top hat
for double ax top hats
and then one inch spacer as well
in the rear.
The engine is pretty much stock.
Not much into it other than
just replacing, you know, the engine
or filter for
K&N and then
bypass by all from Grinch Speed other
than that pretty much stock. Yeah.
But the exterior is definitely
nice. Yeah.
So it has been a little bit
of, I don't know, like a
headache every now and then mostly just on finding
parts for what I want to do just because
as you know, double
axes are normally lowered to the ground
for the most part. So finding
things to lift it and to make it look
like an overland and it has been a little bit challenging.
Yeah. But the good thing is
that a spider no drill
refract was able to made as well
a refract for my car. Nice. And they're the
only company that I know at this point
that made a refract like that
as well. Okay. Nice. That's what I have.
I have a spider. Yeah. No, they're awesome.
Yeah. I mean, I have been able to
put, you know, the awning on this side
and then the shower awning as well. Okay. The other side.
Yeah. I am running as well a lot
of diodynamic lights.
Yeah. I mean, I have
eight just up front on the hood side
and then two for fogs. Okay.
Plus the light bar on the top
and then two more pots in the rear
as well. Yeah. So a little bit of lights.
Yeah. Just a little bit.
Yeah. And I just did as well the top
putty sign before the Subaru Basecamp
just because I wanted to have a different
look. Definitely.
It has a different look. Oh, yeah. No, and it definitely
gets the attention. Yeah.
And it depends on how close you are or depending
on the light as well, you're able to see
that in reality it's a black and green.
Yeah. But I think the green
definitely calls out a lot more attention than anything else.
Yeah. And you said with the lift
you're running about stock
height as a cross-track.
About that, I think. Yeah.
For the most part, it might be
a little bit higher maybe with different wheels and tires.
Okay. But at this moment with what I'm running
17s
and then the needle tires as well.
Those are the wheels and tires setup that I got
when I lifted it the first time for like
two inches from Ralletuck. Okay.
So when I did that
it looked good. But now
definitely like, you know, started
planning to get on 15s
and then getting thicker tires as well
to, you know, make it look better as well
because there's too much space in between the tire
and the wheel well. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
I've got quite a bit there. So you got some room to grow.
Definitely. Yeah. Yeah. And have you
done quite a bit of off-roading with it?
Or just mostly like gravel roads
and stuff? Yeah. So for the most part
I try to join
to like, you know, trips that
Kerry and Milton do for the most part.
So they're like pretty fun. So a lot
of like gravel roads and like off-roading
and sometimes like as well testing the articulations
of it. Yeah. Because
we ended up going to the first off-road
class that Milton and Kerry offer. And I was on
like two inch lift. That was the first
time that I ended up hitting my skip play
with a big dent on it.
So I just replaced it for a rally
tech one as well. But for the most part,
yeah, not running sway bars
after the lift as well. It definitely
made it feel better
off-road. Yeah. Just because I don't
have to worry about, you know, too much movements
on every pothole that Washington has
to offer. So that
is definitely a plus for me. Yeah.
Yeah. I would like to take a little bit more
off-roading and also camping as well.
That is one of the things that I have on
the bucket list for this year. And
we already did one of those. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. You've got to set up for the camping.
So, so when you like,
is this your first time to Overland
Expo period?
Yeah. Okay. So this is the first time on
Overland Expo. This is the first time
on Subaru Base Camp. And this is also
the first time for me using my entire
setup off camping.
So like that time, I've been just
storing it for like months after I got it.
Never used it. And then all of the
audience, I got it a month before
the Overland Expo. Okay. In preparation
for it. Yeah. Definitely. So everything
is new. But I thought
that I was doing a little bit too much shopping.
But it's definitely not enough.
But it definitely helped for all of the
nights in here. It was definitely comfy. Good.
Good. Yeah. So
coming into here, like
what was your impression of Base Camp
and everything that they have set up?
So in my case,
just kind of like how I
just got to this spot specifically.
I was definitely excited
from the beginning. Mostly
because I wasn't sure
if I was going to get picked right for
the Subaru Base Camp. Which
I'm glad I did. And I really appreciate
that. I know, right?
And I'm also
like really glad to see that I'm
not the only direct. There was also an STI.
And I think there was another.
And then there was a BRZ. The BRZ as well.
So I'm definitely glad that that is opening up
a little bit more. Yeah. Because it's nice
that they didn't, that they
invited people that don't just have
off-road. Exactly. Yeah.
Give them an opportunity. Yeah, that too.
Which is awesome as well. Talking to them
it has been definitely fun. And like their experience
as well on this, it has been great too.
So like for me just seeing this
I wasn't sure what to expect.
For the most part before coming into this trip
I was just like watching
TikToks or like YouTube videos. I was like
what do I need to learn from it to prepare for
it, right? Yeah. But the Subaru Base Camp
I didn't saw much videos other than the ones
that were happening on like South Carolina
or California.
It was South Carolina. Yeah.
So like seeing all of those videos definitely gave me
an idea. And then
I got lost also on the way
here. Just because
I was asking for instructions to like
everyone and they sent me all the wearer on the
expo until I finally got here.
Yeah. But like seeing this spot
seeing as well like all of the people
it has been a really great opportunity
I think. And also
a great time to enjoy you know what
Subaru's made of. The community
and like talking with everyone as well.
Yeah. Definitely as well
camping with all of you guys as well
in here. It has been great.
It's something new for me like
I have mentioned a few times already
but it's definitely something that I have enjoyed to
do the plenty of it you know. Yeah.
So. So what do you think of like how all the
stuff they have set up in here. Oh it's awesome.
I mean breakfast, dinner that
has been great. Yeah. As well all of
the spots used to chill around to talk
with people. The drinks
as well you know all of the connections
as well that they have.
The opportunity I think it's out
there and I definitely had enjoy
just you know talking with everyone
and making some really good friendship as well
out of all of this. Yeah. The setup, the
space that we have is nice. Being close to the restrooms
as well. Yeah. Definitely. Yeah.
That was really nice. I never
ask or found the showers but I know that
they were out there too. Okay.
I ended up just using the shower awning that I
have and how did that work out for you. It
worked out even though it was cold. I had
to heat up some water prior to it.
But other than that it definitely worked
out too. That's good. And yeah it has been
I don't know great for me. Yeah.
That's good. So what did you think of the way
that they have the booth setup over there
for Subaru? Oh that's awesome. I already
went in there for
like a few of the classes that they have with Milton
and Kerry as well with
Rihanna. Rihanna.
Iranian. Yeah. So
yeah it was awesome.
Also in there just kind of like having great people
working in there for Subaru as well.
We're like the people as well that are there.
It was awesome. Good drinks.
Good snacks as well. The tamales.
Yeah. Oh yeah. Those were good.
I brought those. Oh you did?
Yeah. Oh no way.
I didn't know that. The little walking tamales. Yeah.
I brought those. Oh that's awesome man. Yeah.
I reached out to the brand and
you know I was because I wanted to see if they
were working with creators. Yeah.
They said they aren't working with creators but
I told them about this event and I said is there
any way you could send some to it. Yeah.
He said yeah. So he sent those to us. Oh man.
That's awesome. I mean that was a good thing to
have in there too. Yeah. Yeah. It was really good.
Yeah. No the talks as well were definitely
helpful. We were just hearing
about it as well about you know
living out of your car and one of the things
was a fridge just because I bought
a fridge just for this trip
and then we're talking about you know
overheating the fridge and things like that.
How to leave space around it too.
And that definitely happened as I was packing
up just because I did it like on
a Wednesday morning and it was like really
hot and all of a sudden like the fridge
shot off completely and I'm like oh well
I happened but I saw that the sun was hitting
right on it so I'm like okay you probably got
it. Yeah. I closed the door as soon as I did
that it came back on. Oh that's great.
So I'm hearing that. Good learning experience.
Exactly. And hearing that from the talk I was like yeah
that definitely happened and that's something
that people shoot know as well you know how
to prepare for that too. Yeah. Yeah.
It's good that they have these little like seminars
because then it's a good learning
opportunity for people that you know if they
have a Subaru and they want to come over there
and learn some of these things about going
off-road about lighting about living out of
your because even if you're not planning on
going off-road you're going to go like
stay camping for a few days you know
that's really good stuff to keep in mind.
Oh yeah no and as well I mean
all of those like seminars as well
has helped me out just because I don't
take it as often but at the same time it
is kind of like in the way of like the
double X being lifted is definitely
something new for a lot of people and for a lot of places
too and it was even new to us.
Well Milton and I were
working on that as well
it was what we think it was like one of
one at this point in the United States
so like for me it has been a learning experience
on how to off-road it how to do things
that across track could do as well
learning a little bit more about the all-wheel drive
system and and driving a manual
off-road. Driving a manual off-road too
yeah because it is a manual yeah
I remember that on the first class
I you know was going
up a hill and it they shut off a few times
just because articulation wasn't there
but he definitely did it at the end
and also this experience
thought of me a little bit more about organizing
just because I don't have much room
and with the tent that I have behind
me like that's a big tent as well
so everything packed
into your car everything is parked
inside my car so the trunk
was already tight after the tent
so I was using the entire trunk of just like
pushing things in and then
also the rear seats that were packed to the
roof as well so you foresee
maybe getting like a really small
lightweight trailer
to pull behind you to put stuff in
that was kind of like
the idea the other thing
that I've been thinking of is putting more
things on the roof just because there's a lot
of space that I have just not using at all
but when I was planning for this
I didn't have time to like order
the carrier boxes or things like that
to fit in there yeah because that would be good
that would be nice yeah because like a lot of this stuff
is like you know I do have kind of like a
small box in here where I have
like all of the tools or like the blankets
and that could have been on the roof
and that would save me as well some
space the trailer part
or like the just the carrier box kind of
like in the back I have thought about it
but just because of the setup but with
the dashboard that I have at the rear
that might not work so
that's where I'm at of like trying to
see what because I'm doing a mix of like
off-road overlanding style
to also stay to what
the WX is like so
just mostly because I'm not able to find a lot of
things out there right yeah um so I'm
trying to do a mix of those
two or three things as well so
we'll see what we can work with
and try to figure out what does work for me
and making it unique as well
because you know if you have like a hatchback
it's a lot easier to do organization
and finding a place
for things and people still end up using the roof
you know for storage but yeah when you
only have a trunk you're limited so
but I'm gonna give you it is good that you
figured out a way to get all that stuff
and bring it with you yeah and it
helped out for the script it was just
a two people trip yeah
I don't know where the other person
would have fit yeah exactly yeah
so it was great meeting you and
so like what is your like
biggest takeaway from this whole experience
I mean my biggest takeaway I think from
this is like all of the things that I learned
of course from the Subaru classes
that they had um definitely
all of the people that I met um
on this days I have made
some really good friends now
yeah really good communication
as well just kind of like with the raffle just
I was not expecting to win anything
so I won two things I won
a Subaru hat signed by
Riano and
then as well a poster
that had a brat on it
and then the other prize that I got was
a knife
like a meat crufter
that's right I saw that
so I got the meat crufter with a hat and then
a go-z as well
the go-z and the hat were signed
and then I just had the knife engraved this morning
before they left
but what I take from that is
that I ended up building as well
like a good talk with one of the other folks
that are camping with us
and he won twice in a row
so then there was a limit
right that you can only win twice
so then the third time
that one of his ticket won
he gave it to another person as well
a Diode Dynamics win breaker
and all of a sudden we were just kind of like
looking at our tickets none of them were getting called out
all of a sudden the Subaru stuff came out
and he came right behind us
and he was like hey you guys won
and he handed me the tickets
so then I go over I claim the prize as well
you know we gave him a hug as well
of appreciation to you
and all of a sudden there was the knife coming up
and I started like seeing all of the numbers
because I had five plus other two
and then all of a sudden
from the two that he gave me
that was another winner as well
so then I just couldn't believe it too
so like just building that community with everyone
was definitely awesome
I tried to like talk to as much people as possible too
and talking about their cars
yesterday was a lot of fun
and yeah I think it's mostly just kind of like the community
also learning about
what people are doing
with their cars, with you know their camping trips as well
learning a little bit more about them
and just kind of like growing the community
that I'm around with so
that has definitely helped me out to be in here
in Super Base Camp this is a great opportunity
I just never would have thought
that I would have been chosen to be here
and also at the Overland Expo
but at the same time
you know I'm definitely appreciative
of this opportunity
and really enjoyed all
the things that it got to offer as well
so cool congrats man
no appreciate it and yeah it has been good to me as well
good talking with you around the
Super Base Camp as well
and seeing you as well taking all of the videos
and all of that too is definitely awesome
and I'm excited for that too
so yeah of course great meeting you
great meeting you as well alright
alright we are here at Overland Expo PNW
2026 and I'm here with
Benjamin I wanted to talk to him because
he has his car
at the Subaru booth which I think is really really cool
I met up with him last year
in Loveland Colorado
at Overland Expo 2025
Mountain West so how's it going man?
I'm doing great great to see you here
and it's been super fun
event so far as day two
yeah so how did you go about
getting your car in the booth?
Last year I
attended Loveland
Overland Expo Mountain West like
Rafe was saying and
I talked with Joe
from Subaru
and then I kind of chatted with him
and I said is there opportunity
to get into this
get into the booth maybe at the Loveland
event or the Redmond
Expo and
I ended up moving up to Oregon
just about two months ago
a month and a half or two and
here we are so
I'm super stoked that he was able to
find some space for me and I'm really
happy to be here it's awesome yeah yeah
it's a really cool experience so like
what are your thoughts on the booth
itself the way it's set up because
you went to Loveland and it's a little bit different
setup so what do you think of this one
this year? I really like this venue
the venue of
the whole Expo is really really nice
lots of green grass lots of trees lots of shade
not that it's been
really hot or anything
it's really windy the venue
set up really nice I think
where the camp Subaru
booth is is really nice because you have
all these people coming in and then exiting
the entrance is right over there
and then there's the touring and exiting
so people are kind of checking out
all the cars as they come in
and then we have the
speakers over there and the stage kind
of
and I love how many vehicles we have here
too I think there's seven yeah
so it's really cool to see
a big variety of
Subaru's here absolutely yeah
so what has your
experience been like here have you had a lot of people
coming up and talking to you
questions? Yeah I have
had quite a bit of people either just
taking a look or asking about certain
things the suspension
the tires or
maybe even the cell booster or something like that
that's cool yeah I know when I first
saw that yesterday I thought it was like
one of the 360 cameras just like at first glance
I was like oh no it looks very
similar yeah and how
well does that work? It works really well
it's not like I explained to everyone
it's not like if you have no service
it's not going to pick up a bar but
if it's like weak signal it's
going to boost that up to one to
two bars three bars whatever it can
so it's going to pick up signal and boost it
as much as it can yeah so it definitely
helps if you're
out in remote areas having some cell service
is really nice yeah and
people have been really really stoked
to see an older car I mentioned this
before but it's a 2010 so
everything else here I think
is at least 20
and newer I think
there's like a 21
cross track but this being
a 16 year old car is really cool
so people appreciate that yeah
absolutely yeah and then like
so what you've been over at base camp
you know and check that out so what is your
like oh yours your what was your first impression
of that because I know in loveland it was different
because it was a separate space and it was
kind of remote from the event
and there was like a minimal setup
over there too but then like rolling over
into that one where we were was your first
impression and thoughts on it yeah
I was really impressed
I really like the way they had it
set up some really nice
area with really nice
bunch of chairs and like a huge
community area which is really cool
lots of different options
and all the cars set up
and it's it's it's quieter
and it's farther away from
kind of the main expo yet it's
super close to this it's like a couple
minute walk yeah
I think having the camping
in the expo
is so key like the
mountain west one so different because it is
separated yeah
so it's not you can still go
but it's not like you're as connected it's a
little bit harder yeah so it's really nice
having that and then getting to hang out
at night has been really nice
yeah yeah it's cool
but yeah it's it's been a great
experience here I'm glad to be back
and and this is
your first time at
P&W right yes okay
yeah that's what I thought first time at the
Redmond okay yeah yeah that's a nice
that's a nice venue and so
like what are your kind of
takeaways with your car being
in the booth you know and getting this
experience and getting to talk to people about
it yeah I mean
it's been really awesome it's definitely
quite a bit of standing around
you know and talking to people but
at the same time just getting
getting to meet so many different people
is really really cool I really enjoyed
that and all
no matter I've met so many people that don't even
have Subaru's I had
one of my cool work
next question is like
has it been a mix of people that own Subaru's
and don't own Subaru's
mainly people that own Subaru's but then
I just had one of my co-workers
friends come up to me that it's got a
Jeep you know okay people that's got
Jeeps and they all are just appreciating
the commonality of
getting out exploring and just having
different vehicles so yeah it's really
really cool to see that and I think
that's really the important
part that I think like the off-road
and overland community
as a whole no matter what build you have
or you have a Jeep or a Toyota
or Ford or you know Subaru I think
it should all really be
about just getting out and exploring
no matter what vehicle you have
I agree yeah
it really I think the whole point of
this event is just showcasing
new gear new vehicles
new ideas new ways to just get out
and explore and camp
and explore new places
yeah yeah so it's been great having
you here it's been great again like over
at Basecamp but like with Basecamp
what would you say is like your favorite
thing over there or your favorite aspect
of it probably
probably the meals getting to have
the group meals has been really awesome
the breakfast has been fantastic
the dinner has been fantastic
yeah like just the kind
of community time in the morning and
especially in the evening getting to
hang out around the campfire with everyone
it's been really awesome yeah and the way
that it the way they have it set up
and the long tables it just brings
everybody together which I think is great
and then some people have their own little
areas where they migrate to but
I think as a whole it's great to bring
people together that haven't met each other
yep I think there's a
so many people I've met I've
known online and now I'm finally meeting
them in person and there's tons of people that have
never been here before so
everyone's getting to meet each other which is just awesome
yeah yeah cool
thank you so much for hopping on the mic
I'm gonna get you on the podcast for a full
episode at some point pretty soon
yeah so thanks again yeah thank you
you're welcome yep cool
what's up Derek it's good to see you
Raf me too man yeah it's been a while
it's been a year it's been exactly one year
yeah it's cool to be out here
again and hanging out with
all my buddies and
you know doing Subaru things yeah same
so and some new buddies
yeah absolutely so
last year
you had your
forester right there in the boot
this year you're at base camp
yep that's what your experience been like
here at base camp
um
I'm definitely feeling the base camp vibe a lot more than being in the
boot honestly yeah
yeah being able to be over there
right right when you're when your car's
in the booth you kind of have to be there with it
yeah talk to you about it and
kind of locks you in there but
yeah it's kind of nice being able to go out
and do some day trips and
when did some wheeling
today and then went out to the
painted hills yesterday and yeah it's just
nice being able to escape for a little while
yeah so the other thing
too is like
I don't know what they're doing
back there so
I know that like
you were
coming to base camp last year and you know
just for breakfast and dinner and stuff
but it's quite a bit different this year
so was like your experience
this year with it
um rolling in here
it's obviously different so we're really
first impressions
I mean it's definitely got a great vibe
lots of spaces set up
for people to kind of mingle together
plenty of opportunities to get to know
people that maybe haven't hung out with before
yeah um
I like how they have
everybody has like their little car set up so there's also
places like community
areas where you can go hang out with people and
gotten to meet some new people from that
yeah um
I definitely feel spoiled being here
yeah I know
with all the stuff that Subaru has put out for us
I mean I feel like there's just
things available for us all day
yeah they've been doing a great job
bringing in chefs with amazing food
and the live entertainment at the stage
so it's been pretty cool
and um
I mean the booth over there is pretty similar
to last year
I think they've got maybe a few more cars
but then they have the accessories area
so I mean like what is your
overall vibe been with this
the whole experience so far
because I know we started off on Thursday going out
doing some trailing
which is fun
I mean I'm
very impressed with
the statement that Subaru has been
making at the Orville Land Expo
that definitely seems like they are taking this
seriously and they've
kind of have seen all of these
amazing things that people are doing to their
Subaru's without
you know like
like Subaru acknowledging it basically
they're just kind of doing their own thing
and I feel like
they're taking notice now and
looking around this base camp
there's some pretty
incredible set up so people have
come up with a lot of creativity and just
functionality for
you know being out
off grid for days at a time
but yeah
yeah definitely impressed with what
Subaru has done to melt this
and take care of us while we're here too
yeah they've been taking very good care of us
from just like
this whole set up and
all the tables and the little like community
areas around the campfires
and the food you know
they just they see
they see us and then they're
taking care of us and
I know that everybody is extremely
grateful for that
yep yep
thanks for chatting
anything else you want to add
um
I don't know I was trying to think if I
done anything new to the Forcer but
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yep
yeah just kind of going through another
tired debacle and
always trying to find the right suspension for my
for my needs and everything but
it was actually kind of cool I was talking to Luke
the Iron Man CEO came over yesterday
and I'm like
Luke you're gonna come by again
again this year to give us enough in on where things
are at and he's like
100% like I'd be happy to but I don't think
they've really changed a whole lot since then
but it sounds like everybody that was in the booth
um or the Base Camp last year that talked with
him has been taking care of us as far as
getting a refund or replacement on
products and yeah and that was really
good of him to come over and talk to for sure
and not shy away and not be like
nope not yet not gonna do that
no like he said like
alright I'm just gonna jump into the lines then and come over and see what's going on
yeah um then you showed up again
first thing yesterday morning to
yeah check on it too so I know I was
wanting to go see him and then he uh
I was standing out here and he came
by and I was like
you know when he leaving he was like I'm leaving right
now it's like but I wanted to come by and find you
yeah it was really nice yeah it was great for
him to do that and take the time so it was
cool yeah I'm hoping
they uh kind of take it seriously and yeah
um maybe make some changes to the products
but yeah it seems like he is
so super happy with it
yeah cool
alright man nice chatting
okay Mike West
I'm standing here with Richard how's it going man
hey how's it going good it's nice to see you
again yeah you were out here last year
and Neil Skies introduced me to you
yeah you all were like camp right next
to each other but uh
I know that you had the experience
here with Subaru last year so
what is it what was your impression
coming in here and seeing base camp
set up you know as opposed to how it was
last year
uh I mean this year
for instance is uh I like how everything was
set up and organized so they have like a
great entrance so like there's an entrance
right behind this you can't see right now but
yeah there's a great entrance that kind of
leads you into the open area where you
have a nice seating
and it's very comfortable they have more
fire pits which came in handy because it was
a little windy out here
and colder than we had expected
in plan but it was
definitely a nice layout
yeah it was warmer last year this year a lot
colder I mean the cold it wasn't it wouldn't
have been so bad with just the
cold but the wind was like
kicking so hard the wind
would bite right through you yeah yeah
so uh like you know with the way
they have everything set up like what was
it what was like something that stood out
to you the most with the way they have everything
going here I would think the common
areas last year they had maybe
one game it was cornhole and then this year
they had a couple games they had cornhole
some uh frisbee games
little um
ball games over there on the other side so
it was just more activities and then
you have more common areas to see so
yeah more fire pits and more
coolers with drinks so kind of
bring the community a little bit back together
yeah so what was something that
you kind of took away from this experience
here at mace camp I'm just
kind of getting to know everybody like
everybody comes from a different aspect
different way of life and just kind of learning
what makes them love Subaru and what
they've done to it what they have it done
to it what makes them love the brand
Subaru yeah yeah and
then like what are your thoughts on the
boot set up over there where they've got the factory
cars and stuff oh I like that
I love the inclusive nature of the
love logo in the front
yeah all the cars are out so they
showcase some of the owners cars
that have different stories behind them
you can talk to the owners and learn
more about their stories and what makes them tick
and as well as the some of the
stock cars that they have in the booth that
shows what you can get from the dealership
as well yeah yeah and then
how many times have you been to
this overland expo this will be my second year
okay each year I've done it with the
Subaru camp okay yeah
because I know some people have been
coming to overland expo you know
whichever event it may be
but then they find out that Subaru
is here and then they're like oh it's even better
you know yeah so it's great
that we could have this happening
yeah it's awesome definitely an awesome
time yeah and
then like did you meet any new
people here at this at this event
yeah I actually met
Kai is one he lives in
Portland he lives right pretty much right down the
street from me that's cool he has a Subaru
wilderness forester
nice just met Jamie this morning
he has a the wilderness forester right
here yeah they're from Idaho
okay so yeah just meet
like different people who love
Subaru yeah yeah
I know what do you think about the food
the food was amazing yeah like
the pancakes with the corn
in it yeah that was
yeah they did a good job and it's
so nice of Subaru to and ruin
management you know because they're working in partnership
and to bring out
the chefs and have them prepare these meals
for us and then like you said the
common areas and the way they have all the tables
set up it just brings everybody together
and you know to just
talk and meet new people and yeah
so I definitely
could go for seconds you know I know
yeah I know they plan for
a certain number of people so for everybody to have
at least one meal but like
is there anything left over there
once more yeah it's been
so good yeah
but uh yeah I mean it's been
an overall good experience and like
last night you know it was
Emily's birthday the camp host is in a couple
of days saying happy birthday to her
that was super cool happy birthday again Emily
yeah happy birthday yeah so
I mean she did a great job you know
and school having Luno here
yesterday to talk about their mattresses and do
a little demonstration and stuff
so it's just great everything that they have set up
yeah and I like the party
that we had last night as well yeah
I don't normally dance but
you know where else do you get to
go out and dance at camp you know
yeah yeah they like minded people
they definitely make it fun for everybody
which is nice you know because they
they Subaru appreciates
you know what we're doing with
our car and they just they just appreciate their customers
you know and they they want
to show their appreciation for
us being Subaru owners
and they recognize our passion and so
like hey let's do something for the community
yeah I think that's great so
you know with Joe this
being kind of his
his baby you know and like
his project I have a feeling well
he's wanting to expand it maybe do
more stuff so they'll be excited to see what
else comes about yeah so
I'd like to see that yeah yeah but man
it was great meeting you and see it we'll see
you again and you know hopefully
I'll see you around again at some point
it's always fun when I have an opportunity
to travel and go out and see people
yeah thanks for coming yeah you're welcome
all right I'll talk to you later all right thanks
man all right
so I'm standing here with ephorum correct
correct all right yeah you're welcome
so we're here at Overland Expo
P&W 2026
so why don't you let us know
like what year your outback
is here so got
the 2020
Onyx edition it's a
XT by default
nice
and when I ordered it
with the
LP Avenger kits that I ordered
and send it right to my dealership
which was kind enough to install it
along with
a two inch lift and
all the armor on
the neath and the bumper
guards and everything okay
and I got some method wheels with some
perellis that I researched
and I sent those to the dealership as
well I got five of them so I
do a cheap rotation yeah
yeah so I got those on there
and it's kind of simple
but does the job it's clean
yeah yeah so
I was talking to you before we started recording
you said this is your first time to Overland Expo
here correct yeah it can be a little
overwhelming but it's
an amazing place especially
you know
you get a lot of ideas you could see
what's out there from you know
some basic tool kits like for people
like me that might want to get a few
convene items for
the Subaru like throw it in the back on a
cam trip or yeah people
looking to that could afford
like Sprinter Vans or something you know
you got it and everything in between
so it's pretty cool
you know it's
definitely an event that I would
visit again over and over
pretty happy about it
and the fact that
the
Subaru base camp
ended up being you know together
with the event is
being invited for that was
very
grateful for that the two events complimenting
each other really well so I'm
definitely happy about that yeah so
I know that you are
a Subaru ambassador previously because
that was a previous program and now you're with
Subaru Subaru correct so
kind of talk a little bit about your role
with Subaru and what you're doing right now
um yeah so I was
lucky enough to get selected uh
when I first moved out here from
originally from New Jersey New York so
oh yeah you're
obviously coast man I drove out here
with my mom in my
2000 forster
back in the day five speed yeah
I loaded that thing up through a cargo box up top
and me and my mom did a road
trip for like 11 days cross country
that's super cool yeah it was really
because I'm real close to my mom so
how do you drive across the country with your mom
you know it wasn't a problem for us
we was really good bonding that's great
and um
and you know I came out here
and you know after about a year
I saw this ambassador program
initially and I didn't know anybody out here
and stuff like I had a few friends but
um
and when I got selected it was a
great experience it got me connected
it got me you know
like minded people you know and it
opened up horizons so
and then I did that obviously that was like
2015 so I've been an ambassador
for a long time yeah it got
quiet a little bit because they were rebranding
and then they did some
questionnaires and stuff and
um and you know some of the people I
knew at SOA to encourage me to
apply for a certain path
and then I ended up getting selected
as a director of my
chapter very nice which is the
northern Washington chapter
and Alaska but apparently there's nobody in Alaska
so it's mainly the north
north uh Washington okay
and um yeah how often
do you get up to Alaska buddy
not too often you know it's
still very new but
I think you know talking to some of the
some of the other chapters and stuff you know
every area and all the different people
it's you know you get different dynamics
but speaking about my
own chapter I like
to say that I got pretty lucky because
some of the people that I've gotten
that are also here
they're already part of their own
like groups that they've created
like Mount Suvi and such
and they're very very active so
yeah like before I even
come up with ideas with my lead
who's also a very helpful person
um it makes
our leadership role quite easy
yeah um I mean
we give our you know
I'm on my leads a little bit older
and I'm on the older side so
like you know we got that kind of life
experience so like yeah
to like give some different perspective
you know on some ideas but
otherwise it's almost like on autopilot
they're already the it's a younger
crowd but they're very active
crowds so that's really good yeah so
they got a lot of energy and they're constantly
like every it almost feels like every
week or every couple weeks they're
driving somewhere and everything so
and they're just channeling it through
the program now like by creating
an event yeah and
you know Subaru could help out
they do and you know
yeah they have a lot of good support
so like because now
you know the the old
program was quite huge and it wasn't
always a effective
or you know
the I guess not
every member was as equally effective
or now it's it seems like it's a
it's a fraction of that and
yeah and it's like
more quality over quantity so
yeah I think it's a lot more focused
to intentional
yeah and I
I think that structure is way better because
when you do create events it allows
Subaru to actually get involved
and assist you in any way
they can anywhere I think from like
if it's financial sport or gear
or everything from that
to
if it's big enough where they feel like
oh maybe we'll send a few guys out
and like let Subaru
actually helps to sponsor it like
officially or something like it could
get that big or it could be as little bit
it was like here's a little stipend to care of this
stuff or here we sent you
a case of
you know lanyards or whatever it might be
you know and and just it'll help out
everything from like a little coffee
event to a car show
event or you know planting
trees or whatever you want to come up with
yeah and a lot of it
you could take away if you were very active
ambassador you know
you already established some contacts
between not just dealerships but like
organizations and stuff
you know because I was initially like
you know getting in since I
didn't know a lot of people when I came out
you know it was
a great opportunity and you know
single I was definitely
younger you know and I was just
I was very active you know I went to everything
from the motorsport events to
you know planting trees with the
nonprofits and or I would go
to all the dealership events and then
I got really good close relationship
with Pialup of Subaru Pialup
which is my dealership
and it's great when the dealerships
are involved with it too because that definitely
helps and it's
a shame that not all of them
understand or acknowledge the program
like yeah there was
I skip literally
five dealerships to go to Pialup
like it's an hour away from me
you know yeah that's but
I'm willing to do that because
of the their understanding of the
program their willingness to work with us
they appreciate the help when they had
events you know pre-covid we're really
active with the but after
COVID it kind of slowed down obviously
but I think it's starting
to pick up a little bit they're starting
to do some more public events
where we could get involved
and it's nice
it's nice to be able to
retain that active relationships
absolutely so coming
out here to Overland Expo
and then being invited to
Subaru Base Camp like
what was your first impression pulling into
the Base Camp?
Cozy I think is a good word
yeah definitely you know like these
and like really
promoting some of the gear that
they associate with or partners they have
it's pretty cool like the solo
power refrigerators and stuff
and then little couches they've got over there
yeah so like it's extremely
inviting and they got these like
the gas powered fire pits and stuff
like it worked out
like I like it and
they built the whole trailer for
you know to be able to take it everywhere
and it's actually an entity of its own
that's growing just the whole setup
with being able to bring all
these different Subaru owners together
with like you know the long tables
and then the food how's
the food been? Dude
and I'm a foodie man
and it's like they were just
very accommodating and not
only vegetarian but I think
naturally I think by default
they were making food that's I think
duty free I'm not sure I didn't actually ask
but like you know like the
the rice the eggs they were
phenomenal everything that
they cook is just like I mean they're professional
chefs which is great to like
so for Subaru and
Rune management to like bring
out a professional chef for this is like
pretty amazing and then just everything that they've
set up here it's like so great
but going back to the
suvi base camp
I really like the idea
I told Sean I was like
fits in this area all the
way out to like Wyoming, Washington,
Idaho, Utah
even I was like you know send me an invite
you know I wouldn't mind taking
you know in the future
some vacation days and driving out
because I would do this quite a bit
you know as they
attach themselves to maybe different events
or just on their own
bringing Subaru owners together just to camp
and have some events created around it
it'd be a I think
it's only going to get
better and bigger. So what are your thoughts
on the on the booth over there
the Subaru booth? You know it's nice
I'm seeing some of the vehicles
that some of them are
the owners are like the new people I met
through my chapter. It's nice
seeing those out there
and
you know they got a good set up there
they got the classes hosting there with the chairs
and stuff and seeing
your friends actually teaching courses
because they're so involved it's
it's nice it's encouraging and it's
it's like the
the community of Subaru
you know the groups and the owners
like giving back to their own
you know community of owners
and friends so it's good
I had to come alone this time
and I was
a little intimate about my
fiance I had some other obligations
where she was like very encouraging
and she's like please go like you
it's your type of thing
you're gonna like it
and I'm glad she did too
and it felt good to have you know
be supportive in that because I was a little
yeah and it was
a little inteminated only because like
it was a six and a half hour drive like I left
basically at midnight you know on Thursday
to get here I did
I did the crater like drive you know
as a launch event you know
I got invited to that so I
that was awesome. So what was that like
because I did the other off road drive
with Milton and Kerry so
tell us about that experience because since I
didn't go on that I want to get some
feedback on what the crater lake experience was like
it's long yeah
so the drive is long
but like and you gain it's a big
elevation gain to like my cooler
and that actually like sealed you know
I had to like air it out to release
some pressure yeah but
yeah you go up to about 7300
feet 7400 feet
nice views
oh yeah so you know we only
really had time for like I think
three stops one of them being
like the visitor center which is nice
the viewpoints were nice we did two viewpoints
the visitor center is like a reverse
look on the other the first
point we looked at so okay
you get two different perspectives yeah
it's literally a giant crater
that filled up with water
but I mean some of the impressive
facts about it are apparently
one of the deepest lakes I guess
if not the deepest like the deepest
points like almost 2000 feet like
19 something
yeah so
so it's impressive in that sense
and I didn't believe them
like when they said there's these butterflies
constantly like if you leave your windows
open they'll just like fill up your car
and on the
first stop when I got out I mean there was
just butterflies everywhere
which is cool like you know it's pretty
and then they were like you know land on your car
and stuff but yeah it was
kind of interesting got these like chipmunk
like animals and stuff like
when you go to Mount Rainier and stuff
the drive itself is
it's tarmac right so it's not like
gravel or off-road so
it's easy in that sense
like it's a little bit more relaxing
it's just elevation gains so your car
might like you know want more
breathing
other than that yeah
I would probably try to
off-road one next time you know
this car could definitely handle it
yeah we had a I think we had
maybe three or four stock vehicles
that did just fine
so it was fun
not as long of a drive but
yeah it was fun and
it's like what would you say over with
the Subaru booth in the Expo
what would you say is like kind of your favorite thing
over there
honestly I mean it's a
first standard booth like
even at like older shows that I've been to
like Subaru's you know they kind of go
big yeah you know like especially
at older shows they'll have like off-road set-ups
and stuff where cars like kind of like
hanging off of like fake mountain
terrain or something like that
and it's not that big
in the lab route but it's you know
its presence is known so
and having those nice
um
diverse customized vehicles
is a
pleasant sight to the eye or
do you want to say that
so like I appreciate that
and uh
I think what's cool is that
they don't just bring their like
stock
inventory I mean there's like the new trail
Brazzler which is cool
but like it just
by default shows you
how Subaru is appreciative of
their owners and what they do
so by having like custom
owner vehicles there
and how they made their vehicles
and what they do with them
and then the you know the rebel
rally a vehicle and stuff
like having those there
it just shows you the diversity
of Subaru and
their support for the community so
it's not like oh here's our cars
you know let's just promote our
you know product line
you know let's show we because like
it's great that they are very supportive
of what their owners are doing and like
let's show it off yeah exactly
so I appreciate
that angle of the booth
yeah and not just be like
here's our you know
here's a
trim or here's our new electric car
I mean the trail
I think the trail seeker
seeker yeah I think I called a blazer
let's not mention that car
but yeah the trail seeker
I was excited to see that
I know initially Sean
you know from our event management
he had driven it out
yeah and it was nice to see
I mean that thing
you know it's a
you know maintaining the preservation
of the wagon style
you know as our out
the outback the new gen
turned into a little bit more of a
more of an SUV look
than the wagon look but
I'm glad there's at least a
couple cars that are still maintaining a bit of a wagon
yeah because there's
there's some owners
like us that appreciate
the station wagon
you know
but um yeah
what would you say is your favorite aspect
or thing about the base camp here
I think it's
very inviting for
like community like being
able to just sit next to strangers
and start a conversation it's like
it feels like family
and I feel like the setup
encourages that
because they've intentionally put spaces together
where people kind of almost have to come
and sit together and I know a lot of
people are meeting people for the first time
right and it's that's really cool
yeah as we mentioned before
the
the catering
is phenomenal
I think that's you know
the fact that they do that
when I first got the invite was like hey
we're taking care of everything you're just like
sit down we'll have
beverages, catered breakfast and dinner
you know and a space
where you could
community where you could you know communicate
and share space with what your fellow owners
and stuff and
I was like
I reached out to Sean and I was like
what do I bring he's like just bring camp here bro
well yeah
it's amazing that they're taking care of so many things
you know it's like it's pretty awesome
yeah so
I found out I met Emily
and found out about Emily as well
and
you know her being part like providing
yoga and
being a
point of contact for the event and stuff
and you know she's extremely
helpful too like
like once again like Subaru like outsourcing
some
really unique resources
and individuals that are fully
not from like an individual level
like Emily to like a business
to like you know a company
well thanks for hopping on the mic with me and chatting
it's been a nice meeting here
I appreciate the
chat you know it's always
you know
and good luck with the podcast
thank you
I've seen you doing a lot of work out here
yeah thank you
yeah we did it
thank you sir
alright
okay so here with another
interview at Overland Expo P&W
2026 why don't you go ahead and introduce yourself
for everybody
I'm Robert Ray
and this is my
25 Forester Wilderness
very nice
yeah so is this your first time at Overland Expo
P&W
I've actually been to all the Overland Expo
P&Ws but this is my first
time with Subaru
nice nice so
what's your experience been like
like let's say like when you first rolled up
and you saw the whole setup here for base camp
like what were your first thoughts with that
wow
yeah it's a really nice
setup
so like what were some of your favorite aspects
of everything that they have going on here
you know my favorite thing
is just the I'm sure everybody
saying the same thing
my favorite thing is the community
yeah all the new friends I've made
just hanging out with everybody by the fires
yeah eating amazing food
oh the food yes
yeah yeah that's right up there too
yeah I mean the whole purpose of this
was really to like for Subaru
to bring people together
that you know probably
most likely haven't met each other
and just to show appreciation
for our love of the brand
you know like hey we know you all love the brand
we know you enjoy your Subaru's and love them
so we want to do something for the community
and I think that's been pretty great
yeah so um like I'm guessing
you met a lot of new people here at the event
yeah yeah
did you happen to meet anybody that
happens to like live close
to you and you didn't realize it
no not really
okay all right
what would you say is like
besides the community like were there any other
aspects here that you really enjoyed
about the whole setup
ah the trail run
yeah yeah
that was a lot of fun
did you do the one that was off road
yeah I did the off road one
yeah so when we were going up to the bowl
I know they said you can either take the lower
easier pass or the little bit more
difficult one which when did you end up taking
I did the easier
oh okay yeah yeah the one that was
like a little bit more difficult wasn't too bad
I took the uh loaner that I had
which was a 26
Forrester Wilderness and it did a great job
that was a lot of fun going out there
a lot of dust
but it was still pretty cool
so um
I'm usually running trail solo
so it was so nice to do it in a group
yeah it's I mean it's
great getting out on your own
you can kind of go wherever you want to go and do your own thing
but then it's also great
being with other people because then
like you get a chance to like hang out
you know when you stop and stuff like that
that's fun so talk a little bit
about your kitchen setup here
so this is
made by Compass Campers
okay it's uh
it's a combination
drawer system and sleeping platform
yeah which is really nice
and yeah it's got
as you can see lots of
pull out tables
cutting board yeah and I liked how
this folds up and then stainless steel part
here so the stove doesn't
heat it up too much that's really nice I like
that yeah and then I saw
like you've got your refrigerator underneath
you know that's really cool you taking off
yeah it's nice beating you man
yeah
um yeah so that's a really nice
setup and I like the Forrester Wilderness
you know it comes equipped with the
um all terrain tires
and a little bit higher of a lift you know
so it's a nice setup as far as
like the um the Super Root
booth over there like what were your
what was your impression about that
great yeah
anything specific about it that like
love all the owner vehicles yeah
yeah it's nice seeing those over
there it's like you get a chance to see like
what different people are doing with them
and especially like people coming through the booth
they can see like what you can
do to a Subaru which I think surprises
some people and it's great
that Subaru's you know promoting
yeah yeah doing
stuff and not just
keeping our car completely
stock yeah and it's great too
that they're like you know
not afraid to like bring in
owner vehicles and show that like
you can take this vehicle that we built
as a stock vehicle and do some really
amazing things with it you know
it's great that they support what we're doing
with them so that's fun
what would you say is like your favorite thing
at the booth over there
ah well the classes have all been great
yeah yeah
classes were nice any particular one that you like
ah
why they've all been great
yeah yeah did you get a chance to meet
Breanna yeah yes the one with Breanna
yeah awesome yeah that was a lot of fun
yeah it's cool because she talks a lot
about what she's doing as a
co-driver and like her experience
with Travis Mastrana which is a lot of fun
see that yeah I really
didn't know anything about rally driving until
the glass so that was
that was a lot of fun yeah yeah
she's uh she's been doing it
for a long time she's been doing it with Travis
for a long time now and it's cool
it's so nice of her to like stick
around to and hang out with everybody
yeah that was fun yeah
so um yeah this is
a great event and I mean you know since
you said you've been coming to all of them now
getting a chance to experience it with Subaru
I'm sure it's like a cool experience oh
yeah way better yeah
so well thanks you know
for hopping on the mic yeah you're
in your experience you know it's great meeting you Robert
nice meeting you okay thank you
alright so if you made it this far
thank you so much for listening to this whole
episode I told you it was going to be long
but I had a lot of fun getting all these
interviews and talking to these people
and I am extremely grateful
to Subaru of America and to Joe
for bringing me out so that I could
capture these conversations because
these are the kinds of things that I want
to be or I want other people to be
able to hear and share with the Subaru community
and of course with Subaru of America
so again thank you so much I really
appreciate it everybody
I had a great time again if you
haven't been to Overland Expo I highly
recommend it if you can make it out to
one that's near you or far
away just go but anyway
thanks again hope you all have
a wonderful weekend we'll
see you for on Monday for
a regular episode MuchSubyLove
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About this episode
Bonus episode from Overland Expo PNW 2026 in Redmond, with most chats recorded at “Subaru Base Camp” and the Subaru booth. Hosts walk through the event’s logistics and upgrades—“Subaru Base Camp was just elevated by like a thousand percent from last year”—plus the community vibe: campfires, shared meals, and owners comparing builds. Interviews range from rallycross/autocross Outback plans to lifted Forester XT “basically an STI,” and stock-capable trail stories using X Mode and map skills.
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In this bonus episode from Overland EXPO PNW I talk to Subaru Base Camp campers and amidst all the conversations Rhiannon Gelsomino has some fun playing games with campers!
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