The 2025 BTCC season concluded at Brands Hatch with Tom Ingram crowned champion after a somewhat anticlimactic finale. The episode covers the highlights of the races, including a unique red flag due to a fallen tree and various incidents involving key drivers like Ash Sutton and Josh Cook. Discussions include race strategies, tire choices, and the impact of penalties on the championship standings. The hosts reflect on the season's dynamics, notable performances, and the upcoming awards show, inviting listener engagement for future content.
"To change to see a BMW actually set a really quick time towards the end of the session as well."
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"...ore and more important. There was a sprinkling of Ranger in the session as well, wasn't there?"
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"would both be starting on the medium tire. So I think you had to run two mediums and one soft this weekend."
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"So I think you had to run two mediums and one soft this weekend. There was an engine change overnight for Josh Cook."
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"It was found that he had low oil pressure, which was called engine failure, which with the new M Sport engine in that is a little surprising."
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"which with the new M Sport engine in that is a little surprising. It is, but these things can go wrong."
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"... on his license for failing to leave space on the edge of the track in an incident involving"
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"As soon as he like lurches onto those brakes, he hits a bump. But a bump's been there all race or weekend."
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"...that will push the pads back away from the disc."
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"And there was, of course, a tyre crossover point where the softs go off and the mediums sort of stay on..."
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The last show of the 2025 season played out at the amphitheater of Brant's Hatch, and we
welcome a double touring car champion to the roll of honour.
This is the Brant's Hatch Grand Prix Circuit Review.
Hello, and welcome back to the British Touring Car Podcast.
163 days have now passed, and we have crowned yet another British Touring Car champion.
As Russ has already said, we're going to bring you up to date with all the action that happened
at Brant's Hatch this weekend.
Our thoughts go out to those people caught underneath that tree on Saturday morning,
and we wish you well.
Yeah, the first red flag I've ever seen based on foliage reasons.
It is interesting that foliage causes a red flag, and a fire does not, but obviously all
jokes aside, hope everybody involved is okay.
And of course, anybody that camped over the weekend, I hope the damages aren't too high.
Having camped at Brant's Hatch in October myself in wet conditions, one can only imagine
how difficult the breeze added to the situation.
Yeah, we're going to bring you up to date with all the action from this weekend.
All your opening thoughts of the weekend.
A little bit flat, if I'm being perfectly honest.
Tom Ingram came into the weekend with a three-point lead, which effectively meant, unless certain
one races two and three with Sutton, sorry, Bingham scoring, Zilch or next to Zilch.
Yep.
There wasn't much for contest there, and so it came to pass.
I think the Jack Sears was kind of ruined a little bit through bad luck to the main
two drives.
Obviously, Bocum had a non-finish, which made it difficult, particularly then in
race three, where you've got the hunter coming from the back of the grid.
It almost tried to equal itself out when there was a non-finishing in race two for the other
competitor, but it was a little bit too much to overcome.
Yeah.
Then in the independence, ultimately, Lloyd probably had enough of a lead in hindsight.
We thought it was going to be a lot closer, perhaps, on the preview than in hindsight
with the smaller class, we pretty much had that wrapped up by just finishing the
races as well.
I was a bit disappointed about what happened in race three, but we'll get to that
shortly.
I do think the teams and manufacturers was interesting because of what happened
towards the end of the day.
I do think there's some quite a few good stories up and down the
paddock.
Obviously, Josh Cook getting his first one of the season, center on the
podium, which I completely missed to run to the end of the year.
Toyota's ending the season really well, but I think in reality, there was a 33-point
gap.
The maximum you can score is 67.
Even if you took all 67, I tried to work out maths.
The best you could do next is take around 50 points because you could still take
the two for bleeding a lap, et cetera.
The task was very, very high for us.
What are your thoughts?
Yeah.
I thought it was a little lackluster, a little underwhelming in the end.
I would like a few more close battles on circuit between competitors and
especially competitors looking to take advantage at the top of each of those
championships.
The teams and the manufacturers one came to an interesting end, which we'll get
on to.
Let us know your thoughts and feelings of the weekend and of the season as a
whole.
We're going to bring you up to date with everything that's happened this
weekend.
We'll have an awards show for you.
We're going to have a grade show for you just to see how each driver
performed over the season.
Let us know any bits and pieces you'd like us to take a look at in
the off season because although the season is over, we're going to keep on
bringing your content all the way up until late December.
Yeah, should we start on Saturday then, which is qualifying day and sort of
the headlines because there's a lot to get through.
Tom Ingram won the Quentin Tarantino Award for the Wingfoot.
The most important award.
That was his weekend made after that was that he had a decent
qualifying session, struggled to get into the fast six, as you'd
imagine, but crucially got ahead of Sutton finishing 7th.
Sutton could only manage 12th in his forward and did sort of
intimate to the weeds in the interviews afterwards that they just
didn't get the set up right.
They didn't get the speed out of the car and they were struggling.
I would say that Napa seems to have struggled, especially in the
second half of the season for some pacing qualifying.
Yeah, I saw early on this is the season, Camish taking pole
positions and looking really quick, and even in the hands of
Robotom as well, but it just seems to have fallen off slightly.
In fairness to Camish, he would have thought he had pole made as
the session was coming to a close, only for Darryl De Leon to
pip him right at the last for his back to back poles.
Obviously took pole at the same time as well.
So a real strong ending to the season for De Leon.
To change to see a BMW actually set a really quick time towards
the end of the session as well.
Yeah, I mean, Jake Hill was in the last session as well.
So the BMWs had gone quite well, but just couldn't quite get
anything sort of hooked up in that final session.
We also saw some strife for Mikey Dable, who dropped it
at high speed, as did Dexter Patterson and Josh Cook
didn't get out of session one because he had power failure
and had to pull to the side of the road for him.
So interesting up and down.
If you look at the championship point of view, De Leon, obviously
Jack Sears contender was on pole and his rival Reignford could only
manage eighth, second in class, but lots of cars between him
and Reign De Leon.
Sorry, then Camish and Robotom, proving your theory
slightly wrong for his second and third, Chilton, fourth,
Adam Morgan, fifth and Jake Hill in sixth in the quick six,
then Ingram out qualifying Sutton, as I say, seven to
eleven. And then in the independence, we saw Chris Smiley top
that one ahead of Daniel Lloyd, 14th and 15th, and then
Mikey Dable, separated by Dexter Patterson.
So all four independent drivers together.
And then Sam Osborne also who had an outside shot at the
Jack Sears finishing down in a team.
So the session really followed what we've seen all year as
the season goes on and the boost becomes more and more
important. There was a sprinkling of Ranger in the
session as well, wasn't there?
Not really, not really that the camera got is one of those
where the camera got a little bit wet.
But realistically, it makes no difference.
It's threatened to wet to rain, but didn't quite come free.
So yeah, it kind of followed what we've seen this year in
qualifying as the season has gone on.
You need boost again, got boost.
You're going to struggle when I unless you're in a home
by well, even then Ingram could only manage seven.
He's missed the top six a couple of times this season.
But you can just win it back on race day when your
teammates who qualify ahead of you that you threw.
We'll get into race one now and on the Sunday, much, much
drier, no rain at all, no weather, quite nice, clear skies
by by quite surprise for race one, Ingram and Sutton
would both be starting on the medium tire.
So I think you had to run two mediums and one soft this weekend.
There was an engine change overnight for Josh Cook.
It was found that he had low oil pressure, which
was called engine failure, which with the new M Sport
engine in that is a little surprising.
It is, but these things can go wrong.
They can just randomly, can't they?
Yeah. So the front two rows started on the soft tire as
well as Dover and a couple of other drivers further down
the field, drivers down the field trying to make the most
of those that early race to try and get through the field
and possibly get one up on their other championship
competitors. And then, unfortunately, Darryl De Leon's
bad luck from Paul hits again.
Yeah, from pole position, he felt something strange on the
formation lap, got on the radio to his engineers and said,
look, something's not right, and it didn't get any better.
So he had to come into the pits at the end of the formation
lap and therefore would not take pole position effectively
because you have to start from pole position to be given
a pole position because Dover got his strips.
Technically. Yeah, that's such a pity, isn't it?
At this point, Russ was quite happy.
Not. You're a little disappointed because he was your
jackseers hopeful and it was aging towards possibly.
It's been the story of my season.
So you won up in the predictions.
I've been through to ratify the predictions today.
And the amount of times that I might have points
I've lost through bad luck, a disqualification of somebody.
Yeah, I can't believe it like I've had this year in terms
of that. And that's just been the story of my season.
Yep. Yep. There was a very equal start at the front,
though. Camish got off to a pretty easy one, got clear
nice and early and looked fairly untouchable in race one.
We didn't actually see much coverage of him because no one
was really trying to battle him.
Children and Robo were switching and swapping around
and touching door mirrors and yeah, just getting themselves
into children and robot and things.
Yeah, basically what they've been doing all season.
Yeah. And then on the opening lap, coming down to Hawthorne's
hill had a puncture, front left puncture, which it looked like
a massive lock up, first of all, but then we saw him pull
into one side and him having to come into the pits at the end
of the lap lap. So it was a pretty poor start for WSR
as a team and it wasn't going to get much better.
Of course, Jake Hill saying goodbye to the series and anybody
had missed that. I can't believe you've been listening to this
and not knowing that. But if you are, obviously, Jake Hill
bowing out of the season and the series at the end of
this race by the end of lap one, obviously with De Leon
coming into the pits before the start of the race, Hill
coming in as well. Ingram was up to fifth and Sutton was up
tonight and Lloyd made up a massive seven places on
that opening lap on the soft tire. He just seemed to pick
the right gaps at the right time and made really good
progress. Yes, he was on that softer tire. But there
are a couple of other drivers down there that made no
win near the amount of progress. No, I agree. And I think
you say right, he picked his way through the field very
nicely. Yeah, he certainly did. Chilton was back to some
old Chilton antics. He was forcing the door open into Druids
on lap three on row bottom, those two having a bit of a battle
this weekend. And then shortly followed by Morgan also
following through. Robots seem to lack a little bit of
early pace in this race.
Yeah, surprising, particularly given that cameras have gone
ahead. I do wonder if part of it was manufacturer and
teams point view that obviously Camish and Sutton were the
elected title of the elect points scores this weekend
Proctor, interestingly, and Ingram were for Virtus and not
Chilton. So I do wonder if there's a little bit of a
discussion ahead of race one saying, right, that you're
not scoring points, the team this weekend, let Dan get
away and make sure we can try and put ourselves in the
best position for those two championships.
Yeah, Rainford managed to get up to third position
following contact between Morgan and row bottom. And
then we had House did come into the pits on lap four, which
unfortunately is a
reoccurring theme, a reoccurring theme and not what the way
that you want to do end this season and BTCC career by the
look of it. So I was having to defend quite stoutly from
Aaron Taylor Smith on to lap five, who was certainly put
in the cat amongst the pigeons.
Yes, again, Sutton just lacked the pace. I don't know.
Obviously, you might be able to explain row bottoms away
for the reasons I gave you. Sutton just had nothing in
this race at all. On the medium tire, he was on the
medium tire, but he was struggling to make the
progress that we've seen him do on a medium tire
previously.
He went medium race to almost very good. Yeah. So it
almost felt like maybe there was a little bit of a set up
issue or that set of tires just didn't agree with how the
car was set up.
Camish was fairly unchallenged out front, as
I've said, and then we had the third bit of bad luck for
WSR with Moffat getting a meatball flag, having to be
called into the pits and then compounding that issue by
speeding in the pit lane to then get a drive through
penalty, which if you top up Moffat season, it doesn't
look brilliant on that side of things, does it?
The problem is I still don't know what the meatball
flag was for. Because we never actually saw the
incident or the bodywork that was allegedly
flapping. So I can't comment on whether it was
a harsh or fair cop meatball flag because the
only thing I can say is that he apparently had a
spin again, which we didn't see. That may have
involved contact, we don't know.
We saw in the minis that what the camera shows and
what actually happened might not be the same
thing, shall we say?
Have you seen the statement from him today?
I have indeed. Yes.
Very happy.
No. Then we had a Shedden dive bomb on Lloyd onto
Lap 8. It was a really, really, really late.
One of those classic, almost like Matt Neal
Plato dive bombs into Paddock, kind of caught
Lloyd unaware and was just really, really good
on the brakes.
Yeah, I just think Lloyd took his usual racing
line. I thought there's no way he's going to come
from here. And he did. I said it to you yesterday
and I've said it a couple of times. Where would
Toyota be if they just start the season of that
engine? Because Shedden and Cook in particular, a
little bit, Aaron Taylor Smith as well, post
that engine change are different drivers. Absolutely
different drivers.
I don't think Aaron Taylor Smith has had the
best of luck since that change to the M Sport engine.
He's not helped himself at times, has he?
No, certainly not. But yeah, we do seem to be
seeing a different Shedden and a different Cook
since that has happened.
Let's see if either of them stay there for next
season, of course. It'll be interesting.
There are certainly going to be places to
play for with drivers leaving the grid and
also positionings opening up with new teams.
Ingram still sitting comfortably in fifth.
Seem fairly happy. Once he knew he was
comfortably ahead of Sutton, he could just sit
there and almost take the race in. And if
he needed to make a move, he almost felt like
he still had a little bit more in the tank to
give. Agreed. Whereas Sutton was sort of
struggling in ninth. Yeah, he just couldn't
make any forward progress whatsoever, as I
said. Just had no pace in the car.
Rainford then got a little roughed up by
Morgan. A little. On lap 11. Going on to
the GP circuit, he was pushed wide,
shall we say, in a diplomatic sense.
Yeah, we've discussed these sort of moves in
the past. You've got to leave a carswift
on the outside. Morgan did not leave a
carswift from the outside. And in that
particular corner, you can't really back
out of it if you're already on that line.
So I'm surprised that they didn't give
the position back on the road and they
were willing to fight it in the steward's
bus, particularly given that the teams
and manufacturers wasn't on the line
for morbing, per se. But on the flip
side, I guess it ultimately didn't
matter to his race regardless.
A child for a little bit disappointed.
It could have mattered quite a lot to
Charles's race if he'd have been
left in a barrier. I completely agree.
I completely agree.
But yeah, we'll see. There were
reoccurrence or
recompense for those issues.
Yeah, I'll get on to the penalties at the
end of the race.
Smiley then managed to power pass
Sutton down to Hawthorne. So on to
the back straight, obviously, where
Karrish had his massive accident with
the brake failure. It was a boost
pass. But it was set up really nicely
coming out onto the GP circuit and
Smiley eased past.
But big moment from Smiley would then
cause Sutton to get back through. This
was down at Graham Hill Bend, almost
like lost the back end, maybe locked
the rears and slid wide.
Yeah, yeah, there's well to keep it
out of the gravel. But yeah, it's
very easy to let Sutton through there,
isn't it?
Yeah, getting towards the end of the
race now and Chilton and Morgan
were having a little tete-a-tete,
weren't they, and battling between each
other. It didn't come to anything
important. No, just nipping tuck, both
free to race, the spirals.
Definitely. But neither of them were
really getting that much closer to
challenge Karrish. No, console. And every
time Chilton sort of looked like he
might be catching Karrish and then
extend the gap, he was very much
controlling the gap, controlling the
pace. So Karrish would go on to
take the win his third of the
season, which would go some way,
especially with the issues that he'll
had to helping him secure third in
the championship.
So the final running order for race
one then, it was Karrish from Chilton
from Morgan, Rainford in fourth,
Jack Sears win, obviously those
positions not being switched back
from that overtake with Morgan,
Ingram in fifth from Robot on sixth,
Shedon seventh, Lloyd independent
winner in eighth, a head of Sutton,
who as we said got ahead of Smiley
in tenth, from Cook, Aaron Taylor
Smith, Proctor, Doble and Osborne.
So in penalty corner, and this might
clear a few things up, so before the
week, before the race, Josh Cook
was deducted 15 points from the
driver's championship and IAA
were deducted 30 points from either
manufacturers, constructors and or
teams. Not that it really matters.
No, if having an engine above
the permitted number changed. Okay,
race one, there are four penalties
to get through, so just bear with
me quickly. Adam Morgan received
an official reprimand and two penalty
points on his license for
failing to leave space on the edge of
the track in an incident involving
Charles Rainford, as we discussed,
fairly cut and dry. I didn't actually
see this one. Senator Proctor received
a verbal warning for causing a
collision in an incident involving
Ada Moffat, maybe might have been
what caused his damage or his spin.
That sounds likely, they were in
the same sort of area when they
started the race. Although Chris
Smiley also received an official
reprimand, two penalty points on
his license for causing a collision
and gaining an advantage in an
incident involving Ada Moffat.
So, which one was which? I don't
know. And then Aaron Taylor Smith
received an official reprimand and
two penalty points for causing an
incident and gaining an advantage
in an incident involving Ada Moffat.
They had a busy race then.
Moffat, bless him, was quadring
three different people's
incidents and we saw none of them.
And he wasn't at full for any by
the sound of it. No, and we saw
none of them. So, usual TV
direction there. Yeah, happy days.
Please make it better next year on
ITV. Yeah. We'll see. We'll see.
Right, race number two then,
and Ingram opted for the soft
tire, as did Gordon Sheddon,
of Sutton opted for the medium.
I wasn't sure. I've seen two
ways of looking at this. One was
is that an admission that is
basically done? Or do you win
the race on mediums or get as
high as you can and then save
yourself a pair of softs hoping
something goes wrong for Ingram
who would have to run medium
from the back of the grid?
Problem is if Ingram did run
medium from the back of the
grid, he'd probably still get
a podium. I think he'll still
get well inside the top 10.
But I suppose it probably was
just about the right decision.
To a degree, I always bring
an F1 analogy in. If he stays
out, you come in vice-versa
and you sort of go opposite of
what your competitor is going
to do to try and create
something. I kind of get it.
At that point, Sutton needed
the miracle anyway to be fair.
It was basically done.
Chilton swept in, was swept off,
hang on, let me try that side
again.
Writing and reading my own
writing was the problem.
Chilton swept into first and
paddock off the line, a really
nice sort of stuff and
Camish bit bogged down maybe.
You thought maybe he moved
at the start? Obviously he
hadn't done, but he made an
eye.
When we saw the replay, I
thought has he crept slightly
there? But I think I just
blinked at the wrong time.
Fair enough. Morgan was then
tapped wide by a robotom
which wouldn't be his last
discretion of the weekend.
He certainly had some incidents
this weekend.
And then, as I was running down
the back straight on lap one,
Camish seemed to forget what
team he was driving for
because Ash Sutton was trying
to come through.
And Camish very violently,
in my opinion, chops across.
Yes, that door was firmly
shut in Ash's face.
Which I'm stunned about.
Yeah, so am I.
I thought you just leave
yourself wide and just accept
you're going to move.
The earliest opportunity
you've got to start on a medium
tire, you need to move in through
the field.
Particularly as Ingram had already
come through at this point as well
on the soft and was going up the
field. And let's be honest, was
guaranteed to win race two.
So you had to get something
through the earth's opportunity
to give him any chance of getting
in Ingram's mirrors.
By the end of the race, it
didn't actually matter because
it didn't make his way through.
But to give him the best
opportunity, he could have
possibly gone and fought Ingram
and made it make a mistake
or something like that.
Yeah, but yeah.
Yeah.
It's been a couple of times this
season.
There have been questionable
decisions by drivers in the same
team.
Yes, that's about to say
there's been a couple of times
this season where I felt that
Sutton's had it harder than
Ingram and getting past his
teammates, which is probably not
a good place to be.
No.
However, talking of Ingram, he
was able to take the lead
on Rainford of a 10 out of 10
move usual Ingram stuff just.
As I said earlier, I was
ratifying the results and
our predictions and obviously
I had to listen to snippets
of the podcast to get
to the predictions.
And I did say earlier on, do you
think we'll see a more robust
Ingram at any point in the
season?
And we did because he didn't
have to make this sort of move.
Could go wrong.
He didn't.
But I think he was very aware
and coming into this weekend
being the first time that
he's actually led a championship
going into the final weekend
as well.
He's very much attacked this
season with a different mindset
and it's been
not all that attack, but
very much on the front foot,
shall we say.
Agreed.
And not just sitting back and
waiting for things to happen
like that classic
Turkington way of winning things.
He's gone out, he's grasped it
with both hands
and gone, right, I'm going to
win this myself.
I'm not going to allow it to be
down to anyone else.
Agreed.
Sutton was still stuck behind
Camish at this point
and the move to get past him
wasn't an indicator on it.
It was kind of because we
discussed on your predictions
was that both cars would let
him buy
and we don't really feel it
was a let by had to sort of
set it up and he definitely
had to work for it.
Yes, Camish didn't make it
difficult, difficult.
Not like they were racing earlier
on in the season,
but it certainly could have
been easier.
It could have been a let by on
a straight or a missed gear,
shall we say.
Absolutely.
Up front,
Rainford started to have a
little bit of a slide
which allowed Sutton through
and then Rainford really
dropped back at this point.
Just sort of unsettled himself
threw the out for the
what do you call it,
the forest part of the circuit.
Yeah, back of the circuit.
It was really weird
because I thought he'd
properly run wide
and got some dirt on his tires
or had some pickup
and lost a lot of momentum.
And then I thought, hang on,
no, he's got an issue here,
isn't he?
Yeah, because he sort of
slid wide on the curb,
bit of a power slide
and then you think,
I think maybe
in his mine hill puncture race
one, you just
slow off,
check all the tires are okay.
We've seen punctures in that
part of the circuit
quite a lot in the past.
It's a tough part of the
circuit.
It doesn't often get raced
on, don't forget.
It certainly wasn't as big a
issue as he then had.
No, we'll get to that in a
moment.
Sutton was able to get past
Rainford with no dramas,
Camish fired through
at the road bottom
and Hill was closing in behind.
Rainford was then off at Paddock.
Quite heavily, I would say,
as well.
To call the safety car.
Now, on initial viewing,
I thought he's lost it,
he's dropped it again,
because we hadn't seen
what happened at this point.
All we saw was cut to
Rainford in the
in the barrier.
It's not in sideways.
I'm unable to get the car
door open because of how much
it dug into the gravel.
And I thought,
I must admit that point,
I thought,
well, he just dropped it
on the outer part of the circuit.
It would correlate
with the suspension damage
or a toning force.
Actually, I think you said
toning, didn't you?
You said toning.
Replays didn't really
fulfill our theory somewhat.
No, they certainly
put someone at fault.
Because Aaron Taylor Smith
seemed to forget
how to break into a corner.
The only snippet of
I know you're going to say
it bounces a bit.
It is.
As soon as he like
lurches onto those brakes,
he hits a bump.
But a bump's been there
all race or weekend.
It has, but that will
push the pads back away
from the disc.
You lose the ability
to slow down as quick
as you want to slow down.
And he used
brain fit as a break.
Agreed, but I think
that bump's been there
for the last 10 years.
I mean, it's not exactly
a bump that's
surprised.
No, I know.
But I'm saying
this is a very clumsy move.
And I'm saying
it's a little bit
aren't tell us.
Yeah, I'm not.
I'm not completely
dismissing it.
It was certainly
Aaron Taylor Smith's fault.
And
misjudged,
mistimed,
whatever
had consequences.
Yeah, and
you have to feel for
Rainford at this point
because obviously
the way the Jack Sears
have gone to race one,
he was leading Jack Sears
at this point in race two
and would have really
put down a marker for race three.
I think that would have
basically knocked down
the Jack Sears for him
if he managed to finish
and so on top five.
I don't disagree.
So unfortunate.
Unfortunate for him.
So Chica was called,
car recovered,
and then Cook decided
that he was team Rainford
and wanted to give Aaron Taylor Smith
a taste of his own medicine.
Because Aaron Taylor Smith
would then be offered druids.
I was very excited
because I did have a prediction
this weekend that a car
would need to be recovered
with outside assistance
from druids.
It was a decent accident.
Something was being replicated
in race three.
It was a remarkable accident.
I will say,
similar to what
we were discussing
in race three,
Cook does hold his line.
Yeah.
But I also think
he's a teammate.
Yeah, just back out of it.
Yeah, just come off,
just close to him.
Just roll out of this one.
It was that kind of end of season
feeling again.
I haven't got a fixed car after this.
Yeah.
So basically Cook's on the outside.
Well, the outside as you come,
inside a panic actually.
Inside.
So you'd have the inside for druids.
That's the inside.
Yeah.
There's a little bit maybe
Aaron Taylor Smith
chopping across him.
Leaves his nose in there.
Yeah.
I think both drivers
could avoid it.
But I think you would put
more blame on Cook
than Aaron Taylor Smith personally.
Yes, agreed.
That caused another safety car.
And then during the safety car,
Chilton randomly decided
he was fancy seeing
what all the fuss was about
with druids and he was off there
as well, which was kind of weird.
Yeah.
I think it's certainly called
Sutton by surprise
because Chilton was slowing down
on the right-hand side
coming out of that dipper paddock
going up to druids.
Well, don't forget Sutton's been
done for passing at the Yellows
already this season.
Sutton didn't want to go past him.
And then as he sort of like
straight-lined across the track
in front of Sutton,
pulled off to the left,
Sutton had no other choice but
to go past him at this point,
which I think
you can just see in the replay
that Chilton's got his indicator on.
There is some sort of problem.
It's clear.
Before anybody in the Tom Ingram
fan club started shouting
that Sutton's made a safety car
in front of him, he hasn't.
You are allowed to pass a car
that's got a problem
and it's got a clear problem
and that is a clear problem.
Yeah.
And I believe it was an
automatic issue.
It was an automatic issue.
It was charging no power,
no electrics.
He was able to get back on
to the circuit
and sort of limp it around
back to the official pit lane
but the link
Yeah, the bottom of Graham Hill bend
which is able to sort of
at least get him to a safer position
and speed up the
recovery process
of a stricken Aaron Taylor Smith.
Sutton, of course,
was able to elevate himself
to second with this
and maybe give himself half a chance
to go after Ingram.
I will say, obviously,
I was a little bit
down on Camish earlier
for not letting Sutton through.
I thought the restart,
he did a really good job
of blocking the field back
so it felt like Camish
had a deliberately slow
getaway to safety car
to give Sutton a few lengths
to go after Ingram
without being any pressure
when he'll be behind.
It was going to be Sutton's
only real chance
to try and make anything happen
if he could.
Yes, there was a massive tire
discrepancy
between the two of them
and it was likely
that Ingram was just going to
then scarf off into distance
which he did
but that was the best
opportunity that Sutton had.
And there was, of course,
a tyre crossover point
where the softs go off
and the mediums sort of stay on
and if Sutton could have
got past him in those corners
and then the tyre crossover
came, who knows.
But as I say,
I will give Camish a little bit of credit
because he did sort of hold back
and block the rest of the field
off and making any problems.
Shedden then had a little bit
of a nibble on the back of Procter.
Nice to see two
stalwarts of the series
having a little race of each other.
Then Camish sort of fell back
a little bit.
Procter came through on him.
Cook was through on a hill
behind that.
And then he'd run out of
TTB fairly early on in the race
and just had nothing to depend with
especially with those cars
coming from behind
with more boost available.
You didn't even notice the Procter
who got past him, did you?
No.
I did notice that Shedden
got past him
so he went past with a bit of a
really big
insert of a B here.
Move on, Camish,
which is, as I say,
the confidence that he's now got
in that car
with an engine that actually
isn't powered by a hamster
and a wheel is remarkable.
However, Ingram would come through
to win the race
and in doing so would win
the 2025 season.
He had to affect the finish.
Spoiler alert.
Yeah, spoiler.
Sorry, guys.
He had to finish in front of Sutton
which he did
and Sam will give you
the finishing order now.
Yeah, so Ingram from Sutton
from Procter.
Yeah, Procter's podium
going completely unnoticed
because of a certain championship win.
And then Gordon Shedden
in fourth from Camish,
row bottom, hill,
cook, Moffitt Morgan.
Smiley all the way up to 11th
followed by Osborne,
De Leon,
Doble and Lloyd.
If I may now bring Penner to
corner
because there is something
interesting here as well.
Okay.
Quite interesting.
So Aaron Taylor Smith
who
has already been,
got a bit of a loyalty card
at the stewards bus this weekend
received an official reprimand
and two penalty points.
Have you heard this one before?
For causing collision
and gaining an advantage.
That's one way of putting it
for an incident involving
Charles Rainford.
Last thing advantage.
Senator Procter received a written
reprimand in round 29
for gaining a position
as a result of contact
and not allowing a car's whip
to the edge of the circuit.
Not sure who that was on.
No.
Could have been anybody in the pack.
You'll notice that
that's the end of the
competition for race two.
So Josh Cook.
Got away scot-free.
Which considering what happened
in race three
is interesting.
That is quite interesting.
Shall we get to race three then?
Yes.
So race three.
Born of a nine.
Didn't really mean anything
in terms of the championship anyway.
Well it did.
We certainly had
independent stills.
Let's go say that.
We had Jackson stills play for.
Teams and
manufacturers.
And team of manufacturers.
Which Gal was keen to
point out on the grid.
Yeah.
I think he'll be slightly disappointed
that we've had a bit of a
lackluster season finale
overall.
It's certainly not
one of the classics.
But ball number nine
was pulled.
It was.
From the pots.
Which is a good number
to reverse the grid.
I like that.
That's a good one.
Yeah.
It put Moffitt on to pole position
from Cook.
Both on soft tyres for the start.
As well as Hill and Sutton.
Hill managed to jump Cook
off the line.
Typical rear wheel drive start.
And was up there challenging
with Moffitt.
Sort of trying to run off into
the distance.
At which point Moffitt was under
investigation once again.
For the start procedure.
Didn't find him guilty for
anything.
And we saw the replays and I
didn't see him ahead of his
grid box.
So he jumped the start.
No.
I'm not quite sure what was.
It's really weird.
I found.
I'm wondering if it was maybe
personnel on the grid.
They might have thought it was
too late or wasn't prepared
for take the green flag
lap or went too slow on the
green flag.
Because the start as far as I'm
concerned is absolutely
impeccable.
I couldn't see any problem
about at all.
No.
Sutton had made good progress
early on.
He was fourth by the end of
lap one.
He seems to cut through the
field quite nicely.
Soft tire.
On that soft tire it really
did help.
And then on to lap two
managed to pass Hill quite
easily.
House did have a spin at
Graham Hill on lap three.
Row bottom and Camish had
contact to say the least.
Contact.
A contact I've put.
Camish significantly out.
Broke the front near side.
Wheel.
Suspension probably.
Some form.
But to get a Mars bar.
Which you know.
Suspension versus a Mars bar.
He was surprisingly quite
willing to take his helmet off.
Some drivers when they're
out of a race
and it's all done and dusted
they go okay I'll keep the
helmet on and trudge my way
back to the pits.
I think being the last
race of the season
he was just like
I think to a degree
over now.
I think that also to a degree
just sums up the season
doesn't it that
it does you know
I think he's kind of
at the point of
yeah I have to say
I don't think Robots come
himself in glory of this
move.
Let's not forget
he has taken something out
in Donnington.
He does.
I know he's taken
Camish out.
If you're Sam Osborne
you're worried
on the way home
as you're driving down the
motorway thinking
is that robot behind me
if so I'm going to go
into the services I think.
We did say that
Robots going to hop it
sharpish out of the paddock.
After the events that happened.
But yes this would cause
possible issues for the
manufacturers and teams
of championships.
Yeah I mean look
the robot is
is very similar to the
Cook one
as far as he
did feel quite similar.
He's on the outside.
I do think he's got
way more time than Cook
to back out of it.
I do think that
maybe the Cook one
they've taken the view
that Arita is going to
chops over more than Cook
drives into him
whereas on this one
it just felt like
because
this is
I'm not saying it's what happened
but watching it
it just felt like
cameras was getting past
the robot just threw
the car into him.
That's
that's
watching is how it looked.
I'm not saying that's what
happened
but that's how it looked.
The replay from
sort of like the reverse
angle looking back
from the jury down to paddock
it didn't look like
Robots and moved
from his line on that
inside
and Kamish was trying to
close him out a little bit
and they've come together.
Yes it's had
decent consequences.
Decent consequences.
Which put the car off
into the gravel
safe car called
but it didn't feel
that much different
to the Arantailer's one.
Yeah I agree it doesn't feel
much different.
There must be a nuance to why
there must be.
Well and that's of course
that
Toyota didn't put any form
of appeal in anyway.
Possibly or
there is
data between the two cars
that suggests
maybe Cook was on the brakes
and Robots didn't let out
a bit at all
or something like that.
We'll get to the penalty
applied for that
at the end.
But yeah.
Yeah based on
the penalty we'll get
we might as well discuss it now
because it's only a penalty
it's only a penalty for that race.
How is it?
Yeah.
It feels that there must be
a high level of fault
because Robots was
disqualified from this race
but he completely struck off
that I think it was at
four penalty points
as well he was giving bear with me.
Four penalty points
for causing a collision
of the appearance
of a lack of control over the car.
That's an interesting one
because I would argue
the Arantailer Smith
since with Rainford
he had less control of the car
than Robots had for this.
But is that because
as you say
there's a mitigating factor
if we hit a bump
whereas there's no
mitigating factor for Robots
he should have control
of the car at that point
whereas if your brakes failed
you can't control the car
but there's a mitigating factor
to why you haven't got
control of the car.
Whereas in this one
as I say
it looked very much like
it just looked like a completely
mad move.
It feels like a very heavy penalty
considering and as you say
there may have been no appeal
from Toyota
to the incident that happened in race two
but when you compare the two
they don't feel that different.
I agree.
The last time I remember
a driver being disqualified
for an incident like that
and I could be wrong
but I think it was Andy Neat
at Thruxton with Jade Edwards.
I can't remember too many of these
so they must have really
have some data
that has suggested even
that there's a lot of fault
on the party of Robots here
because that's a massive penalty.
It would be interesting to see
you know when earlier in the season
they released the footage
of who took fault for a certain incident.
Oh that was good.
I like that.
More of that please.
I'm interested to see
what the throttle traces
and stuff would be like
for this one specifically.
I'm also slightly surprised
and perhaps not surprised
at the same time
that Napa haven't put
our any common statement today
about it.
Given
how we see in other sports
that the McLaren boys raced
yesterday
and how Zach Brown was
speaking about that afterwards
I'm surprised it hasn't been
either to say
yeah and we're not happy
or what we'll do
but internally
or these things happen in racing
I'm surprised there's been
nothing either way.
Yeah yeah yeah.
As the safety car was called
Cook managed to make a pass
on Moffitt to get to the lead
of the race.
Again I'm not
No.
I thought the whole point
of the
new digital dashboard
was that the second
the safety car was called
you get the light on
they raced
they raced a couple of corners.
I think it took a little while
for the safety car
to be called on this one.
Maybe.
Maybe.
It certainly did
for the Aaron Taylor Smith one
as well.
I do think
that those called
could have been a little sooner
because you knew the car
was off into the gravel
at Druidge.
You knew it was going to need.
Countess out
Countess out getting them
asked by mate
it's fairly obvious that
you knew it needed
to be recovered.
He ain't driving it back.
So yeah
there from
what I saw on screen
when obviously you see
that safety car sign go up
at the top of the screen
next to the lap counter
Cook had already made that
pass.
We don't know how quickly
the graphic changes
to where the safety car
is actually called.
But I believe it's done
the same time
at the timing
because the timing
clicks over at the same time
when they go over.
But yeah
so Cook managed to get
get to the lead
before the safety car.
The safety car was out
for a little
I think three laps.
I do think
sorry we should go back
to the old rules
on this
that you raced to the boards
and then
I don't like that.
The board is after the instant.
Yes but the board's
also go out
both ways around the track.
True.
But then
whereas the lights
are instantaneous.
But then these were racing
a fair few corners
which is
I think it's when the call
comes from the stewards
or from race control
should I say.
I'm not overly convinced
Cook was ahead at the point
of the safety car
being called either
but they were so close
to each other
I'm not
and again
what point you take it.
Yeah that's true.
Children deciding
this needed to be
a time for him to also
depart the race once again
during a safety car
period.
He'd had a good season.
He'd done what he needed to do.
He worked scoring points
this weekend.
He parked up at the bottom
of Paddock
just to watch the rest
of the race go by.
We had a safety car restart
on lap eight.
Ash managed to get
past Aiden
fairly sharpish
after that.
And then De Leon
and Rainford
managed to fall through the order.
Coming together
at the restart somehow.
Yeah again.
We just saw them fall
down the timing tower.
Harvey I think mentioned it
but we didn't actually
see anything
that caused that to happen.
That's allowed to see.
And then Hill and Moffitt
had a decent side by side at all.
Yeah respectful
between the two teammates
I have to say
and particularly given
they've both got
should we say a
a racy side
should we say?
Yeah yeah yeah.
No stranger to contact.
It was good to see
both of those two racing
and obviously Hill
in his final BCCC race
for now
he has intimated
that he could possibly
come back in the future
depending how
his international racing
goes.
Then we had another
BMW
make a lovely dive bomb
on Arantailer Smith
into Paddock.
De Leon just sent it basically.
Yeah.
So as we've said
of a problem.
Yes.
But De Leon didn't know that
and the move was excellent.
I'm not sure whether
he clearly had the problem
at that point.
It did feel like
very much the move
that like Shedham
made in race two.
Yeah I agree.
A lovely dive bomb
but then we did see
Arantailer Smith
slowing down
with some sort of problem
although we never got
to find out what that was.
I don't think everybody cared
for that point.
At which point
we had a little bit of action
at the back of the field
this race
which was amazing to see
and we had some focus on it.
Yeah and this is where
I said earlier
I was a little bit disappointed
with some of the stuff
happened in race three.
Because of the way
the scoring works
with independence
and it's worked all season
I'm going to go at that.
Lloyd knew by finishing
he'd win the championship
so basically
when the going got a bit rough
in here he just went
oh I see you lad.
I'm out.
I'm out.
First of all we had
Halton make a lovely
really good move.
Round the outside of Buxton
going on to the GP loop
just seemed to hold it
round the outside.
Yes he was on the soft tyre
so he had that little bit
more grip
but yeah
a really nice clean move
and quite progressive from him.
Yeah Smiley
headed sort of back to
putting up
seemingly of a problem
and then
had a problem no more.
It was really weird
he felt back
probably three four seconds
and managed to bunch them
back up
and then just went
how I'm fine now.
And then buggered off into
the distance.
Maybe tactical to see if
Lloyd's could get
sort of roughed up in the pack
maybe maybe.
And then we had Lloyd
looking for a pass
on Mikey Doble.
Didn't really need to
and I felt like
some of the places
that he was trying to put the
car was
more risky than it needed to be.
And then I think
he came to his senses
and realized
that he did only need
to finish the race.
Yeah just sort of fall back
but he did say
after that
he's not used to racing
that way.
No.
But he just had to get the
really alien
for a driver's go.
I've just got to finish.
I've just got to keep out of
trouble and it will be fine.
Morgan had a late move
on Robotton into Hawthorne's.
It was a nice pass down
the inside.
Yeah good pass.
And then I think
with Ingram
having just passed him
as well.
The usual defense
put up by Robotton
as Ingram came through.
And then we had
Hamilton passing Lloyd
as well.
He was looking
competitive
looking racy
and yes
I know Lloyd
wasn't looking for
any sort of race
in this race.
But he did it with
quite
quite easily.
And he's on the pace.
He's on the pace.
You know.
I know House has been
for the pits
but House was some
miles behind.
Let's be honest.
So yeah.
And then we had
very late on
Sheddon passing Moffit
just missing out
on the podium
but getting up to four.
Yeah really good.
And another good finish
from him.
Really good day for Sheddon.
Yeah really good day.
So the final race order
finished as follows.
Cook winning the race
from Sutton from Hill.
Sheddon in fourth
Moffit fifth
Ingram sixth
from Morgan Robotton
Proctor.
Osborne won the
Jack Sears in this race.
And I think for the weekend
as well.
Correct.
Followed by Patterson
who won the
independence for this race.
And then Rainford,
Smiley, De Leon and Doble.
Right.
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Right then.
We'll do a quick round-up
of the final standing
so I'll go from the
least important first.
Ingram won the wing
for as I said
143 points to 135 for Kamish.
Dowder Leon finished third
in that
which I think is an
incredible effort.
Wow.
Did you see how big
his foot was?
Sorry, trophy.
I was going to say
at the end.
No.
And was it made of bronze or?
It was heavy apparently.
Right.
Quite significantly heavier
than some other trophies.
I'll Google that later.
But yeah, I think
Dowder Leon in third
is a really good effort
to be fair.
Yeah.
Yeah, it helped obviously
by the two positions
that he's had.
Still got taken.
Yes, yes.
But finishing on the same
points as Ash Sutton
shows that certainly
on a one lap pace
he's certainly got it.
In the Jack Sears
Dowder Leon won that
by three points
from Charles Rainford.
Throughout the season
Dion took nine wins,
nine seconds and three-thirds
compared to Rainford's
six wins, 12 seconds
and four-thirds.
So very consistent
from the pair of them
and it really did come down
to fine margins.
Yeah, the two drivers
we thought
we're going to challenge
for that
especially being in that
BMW, WSR.
Agreed.
The independent teams
we knew coming into the weekend
that restart racing
had already won that.
And the independent drivers
Dan Lloyds took that
relatively comfortably
ish in the end.
So that's five points
he won that by effectively.
He took nine wins,
six seconds and five-thirds.
Mikey Doble finished second
with six wins,
four seconds and nine-thirds.
Chris Smiley
it really did get away from him.
Ten wins.
The fact that he had the most wins
and finished third in that.
And the most seconds.
Yeah.
Eight seconds and three-thirds
but certainly the second half
of the season
just seemed to get away
from him a little bit.
Yep.
In the teams
we saw
Napa Racing UK
win that by two points
over Team Virtue.
I don't remember
a teams
and a manufacturers championship
being this close
at the end of the season.
No.
Separated by single points.
I would agree with you
because in the manufacturers
Accelerate won that
842 to 839 Alliance Ford.
Who would have won it?
You have to say
how chemistry has not been
muted into
Sussex.
Of the Abyss.
Geography.
And at the top of the tree
Tom Ingram
462 points
to Ash Sutton's 428.
So fairly large gap in the end.
Seven wins.
Eight seconds.
Three-thirds.
Certain had five wins.
Seven seconds and five-thirds.
Both of them score points
in all but one race this season.
Which is an incredible feat
from the pair of them.
They have been the class
of the field.
They certainly have.
We've had four new winners
this season as well.
In Mikey Doble,
Darrel De Leon,
Charles Rainford
and Sam Osborne.
I think we have 13 different
winners overall
with Cook
winning yesterday as well.
Competitively,
whilst it's been only really two
for the championship,
we have some good moments.
I know.
We'll look back on those
on another pod.
We'll jump into,
do you want to do awards
or predictions?
We'll do our awards first of all
for the weekend.
Got them.
We agree on Driver of the Weekend
only because he's won a championship.
Congratulations.
Congratulations, Tom Ingram.
Competently went out there
and grasped it with both hands.
Did Effing a need to do
and gave himself a race to spare
to a bit of fun inside?
Yes.
We also agree on the villain
of the weekend.
A certain Mr Dan Robossum,
although I think Aaron Taylor-Smith
probably needs a note there as well.
I think ultimately the
Robossum issues,
shall we say,
had a bigger impact
on the relative championships.
Certainly did.
Obviously disqualification
is never good on your CV.
And just throughout all the races,
he was just involved in the instance.
It's really sad,
in a way,
because halfway through the season
this Robossum is the best
we've ever seen on Driver.
He's really comfortable.
Competently finished third
in the championship
and he ends up finishing fifth.
Yes.
He's taking race wins
on the podium.
Thruxton, he was making
some ridiculously good passes
all weekend.
Good weekend at Croft.
And then,
yes, the last three races,
it's just all fallen apart for him.
That's a shame, isn't it?
My surprise good for the weekend
was Josh Cook,
obviously taking his win this season.
Almost feels a little
customary for Cook to get a win,
but he showed good pace this weekend
and it's a case of what could have been
if he was in that car
from the start of the season
and if that car had had
the M Sport engine.
Yeah, my surprise good
was Dexter Patterson
took an independent win
this weekend.
Wasn't horrifically off the pace
in the mid-pack either
and it seems almost condescending
to say,
but a weekend of no issues
just sort of went about his business,
scored in all three races
in terms of his independence
and did what he needed to do this weekend.
Yeah, my surprise bad
is actually Aaron Taylor Smith,
obviously with the incidents
that you got caught up in,
a little bit of unreliability
along the way.
When you compare it to
Shedden and Cook
and the weekends they've had,
it's what could have been for him.
Agreed.
I've gone for Chris Smiley
just on the basis that
didn't really make life
difficult for Lloyds this weekend.
Race 1 obviously Lloyd
did a lot of the hard work
in Race 1,
but yeah, Smiley has just fallen
off the pace a little bit
in the second half of the season.
You'll be really disappointed
that you haven't managed to take home
the independent title,
especially in the position he was in.
Or outright win,
because at the start of the season
the way it was going,
I think we both had Smiley down
for a win at some point
and yeah.
Dan's been into it.
In every way, yeah.
Bright then.
Right.
The important bit.
Predictions, you were two ahead
coming into...
Three ahead.
You were three ahead,
sorry, coming into the weekends.
We've both got a point
in the general one,
so
Rainford for pole
for me,
Hill for you,
Neva,
we were right for BMW at least.
We were, we were.
We just chose the wrong one.
We've got the wrong one.
You've got no race winners
or as I've got one race winner
in Cook,
which I'm quite happy about,
to be fair.
You've played that nicely.
I honestly thought
Sutton was going to go out
and it tasted at least
one win this week.
I can understand that
because that's normally what he does.
And then you did get a point,
however, in the...
There I say.
Go on.
Is that the first time
we've got Jackson's right this year?
No.
Okay.
I've got Pearson right
and I've also got...
That's the first one.
It feels like it's been a long time.
I've got...
Darlan right when he came in
and you allowed me to change
early in the year
at Orton Park.
Yes, we have had him
right a couple of times.
It's just felt that every time
we've picked the wrong BMW,
basically,
which I did this weekend
because I went for the Leon,
which I must admit,
when he stuck it on pole,
you were looking quite happy.
I was looking quite happy.
Yeah.
But that didn't work well.
In the general,
this is where I really need
to pull things back.
And I did get three right.
So I had Sutton to outscore
Ingram and all three races,
but not enough to win the title
and that didn't even come close.
Not even in race one, mate.
I had at least one car
when it recovering from Druid's.
Two needed.
So that's a point for me,
not a point each,
just a point overall.
And I had Toyota to score
at least one podium,
Cook doing that for me in race three.
And then in the...
I'll come back to the bingo.
We'll come back to the bingo
because yours is quite easy to get through.
You scored no points.
You had both Robotom and Carriage
to let Sutton buy.
Yeah, that didn't pan out
as I expected it to.
You must have been quite happy
at the end of qualifying,
seeing them both heading on the road.
Yes, definitely.
I thought, yes,
this is the prime opportunity.
It's always like Kamesh
sort of heard that and went,
and I took that personally.
Didn't want to let him through.
But anyway,
you had the Jack Sears
and Indy leaders
that they're not to win
their respect for championships.
There were times across the weekend
where I thought that was going to come
to fruition.
Not really on independence.
More so on the Jack Sears,
but you needed both.
Yeah, I know.
So, and you had Cook,
Aaron Taylor-Smith and Shed
and all to score a top 10.
Aaron Taylor-Smith said,
no.
It's really let me down on that one.
And then this is where you
got yourself out of jail
or in the first ad break.
Get yourself out of jail.
In the first ad break as well.
It was quite impressive
that they did turn up
in the first ad break.
So, you won the coin toss.
Yes, I did.
Which is crucial
because we'd have both gone
for your opening one.
You went for Guide Dogs,
which was, yeah.
The second advert on.
Yep, yep.
I'm just putting that out then.
Yep.
So, you got a point for that.
You also went for
the Marie Curie Foundation.
Which was about the fourth advert on.
Yeah, but yeah,
but then the first ad break,
you were two up,
which I was quite upset about.
And you also went for the Poppy Lottery.
I am stunned that that didn't come in,
I have to say.
I'm stunned that we didn't have
any Lottery come up.
Agreed.
As I said on the preview,
I mentioned Cata Clean
and all that a couple of times as well.
Yep.
Well, I also mentioned the Lifeboats
and they came up with it.
But I only got one.
So, I went for the Flash Dust Mop,
which didn't come in.
I went for the Postcode Lottery,
thinking a Lottery would come up.
That didn't come in.
It was all about cats this weekend, wasn't it?
There was quite a lot of cats, yes.
And I had to stay sure.
Insurance, which
quite a celebration from you.
Well, yeah, but it's halfway through the day.
There was a different insurer on it.
I was thinking, oh, no.
But all of this means,
and I have been through the scores
to ratify them,
and I have to congratulate you
and you will be presented
the award at the December award show.
I think you've retained it.
Yes, because I've got the final
standings one here.
So, you have retained the predictions one.
Can you get the other one as well?
Time will tell.
It will be nice.
However, until we get to open
those sealed envelopes on the award show,
I do congratulate you and say,
well done, you have won by 29 points
One thing I must say,
and there are other people out there
that play the advert being known,
I shout out to Chip Howland
on one of the touring car pages
who with some dedication, I must say,
noted down how many advert breaks
there were this week.
Well, enough.
I've mowed all years in too many.
We didn't get hurt.
They're all too short.
There's no time for my adverts.
The adverts that appeared
and the amount of times
that those adverts appeared
and has actually broken it down into statistics.
You know how much I love stats.
Yeah, of course,
his alternative championship
will be coming in the off-season as well.
So, if you haven't subscribed,
if that's not a reason to,
I don't know what is.
So, there were a total of 75 adverts
over the touring car show.
And I've got one right.
You've got one.
Yes.
Splendid.
I mean, you've got two piped down.
There was an average of 5.357
ads per break,
which, again, wasn't enough for you.
And he's noted down
which ones occurred most often.
And I must say,
guide dogs and Mary Curie
are right up there at the top.
I wanted guide dogs from the start.
Yes.
I'll be honest with you,
I hadn't considered Mary Curie in you.
That was a very good one on your part.
But Ancestry and Ryobi.
Oh, my God.
What budgets have they got for adverts?
Joe, Joe,
Joe's a little more annoying thing is that
after you've gone,
I watched some advertising.
I watched the football.
We got to the F1 throughout the day.
The amount of times I heard Hugh Dennis
talking about the flash bloody speed mop
and the one station I needed to be on.
I know.
I know.
So the end of that round,
the points go to Sam.
Yes.
Thank you.
Let us know your thoughts and feelings
on this weekend specifically
and then make any suggestions
for any awards you want to see us award
at the end of the season.
Fun, serious,
we'll take nothing really.
You got to the start of November
really to get those in
because we need a little bit of time
to prep the show.
So if you've got any award categories,
by all means comment them,
message us whatever you want to do.
We're looking to do something a little bit
different to last year's award show as well.
So put forward some suggestions
on possibly any games we might be able to play
during our award ceremony.
Agreed.
Sam, final thoughts from the weekend,
not the series.
We'll do the driver grades later on
then we'll do a final sum up of thought
of the series.
Then words all in one place,
unscramble them to win a prize.
Ingram quite comprehensively managed
to seal the title this weekend.
I don't think it was in too much doubt
coming into the weekend either.
It was nice to see that fight
towards the end of the independence
and of the Jack Sears.
And certainly the Jack Sears flip-flop
both ways between the WSR drivers
with bits of unfortunate coming together
and reliability issues, should we say.
Which isn't always how I want to see it
fall out.
I'd rather see it fall out on the two
drivers battling on track and swapping
positions.
But we didn't get that this weekend,
unfortunately.
And that's just how motorsport plays
out sometimes.
Yours?
Mine is just to say a massive thank you
to anyone who throughout the season
has interacted with us for online,
in person, commented, reviewed,
liked, shared, got involved.
This podcast is a silly little
hobby of ours.
Our friendship is built almost entirely
on the British touring cars.
We don't like each other outside of that.
Final football rivalry.
Yeah, we don't really like each other
outside of those parameters.
So yeah, just again,
the support this season has been
absolutely incredible.
It's weird that we get stopped at
events, which is just crazy.
So thank you everybody for your
support.
And the final question that is
really important to ask is,
have you had your teeth whitened?
See you later.
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