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Welcome to Car Talk, it's Tuesday night here on 98.9 Northwest FM.

It's me, Manny J, online with Mr David Prince and Mr Scotty Doe Johnson.

How are you gentlemen?

Really good, thanks.

Doing well, thank you very much.

Good to see you guys.

How was your week, guys?

I'm trying to remember what's happened.

It's been a busy, busy week, it seems.

It's been a busy week?

Oh yeah, good weekend.

No, good weekend.

Yep, yep.

A few bits and pieces.

We'll report on that shortly.

Scotty Doe, how was your week been?

Yeah, not too bad so far.

Still, you know, kids have been great, so can't complain there.

Got a bone to pick with Honda, so we'll talk about that.

Okay, alright, so we'll watch the space, we'll hear that once we get a little bit further down the track.

But let's start with some car updates.

Scotty Doe Johnson, updates with your vehicles this week?

Let's get it out of the way, come on.

Let's smash it out.

We'll start with my cars first.

Okay.

Haven't washed the blades, so just so you know.

There you go, Jim.

There you go, Jim Bellow.

There's your update.

It's very filthy.

Brake pads have arrived, I've got those, so hopefully I'll do those in the coming weekend.

Get those all done.

Nothing else on that.

I spent my Sunday, pretty much the whole day working on a Honda.

Okay.

It should have been, well, I'd assume it'd be something fairly simple, but it turned out to be a debacle.

It was one of those, this is a 20-minute job, took 20 hours, or was it like that escalated really quickly?

It was one of those kind of jobs?

Yeah.

What happens, Scotty?

It was programmed maintenance or unexpected?

So it's back to where the cruise control button doesn't work?

Oh, yeah, yep.

On the steering wheel, and it's one of, and the reasons it doesn't work is it's one of those button switches where you click in and it's meant to stay clicked in.

Yep.

But you press it and it just keeps popping straight back out.

It doesn't have that click in anymore.

So I bought a new whole module.

It is, you've got the left side switches and the right side switches and everything.

So I was like, okay, that's pretty much all that came as like that.

Yep.

Okay, no problem.

Have a look at the steering wheel.

I go, all right, so I want the silver, the silver decorating piece that goes around the steering wheel.

So it looks like I need that to come off.

And then I have a look and I go, okay, I need the middle airbag piece to come off.

And I thought, oh, if that needs to come off, I'll do it, I'll do it properly and disconnect the battery.

Usually I don't because I don't care.

Let's just live in the moment.

If it goes off, it goes off.

So you like to live dangerously?

You like to live dangerously?

Pretty much, pretty much.

I've pretty much every car I've ever had, I've never disconnected it when I've had to.

I just grab hold of it, hold it in my hand and keep working on anything else that's in there.

Or I sit it on my lap.

It's like a heart surgeon holding someone's heart in their hand.

Quite literally.

But except instead of a heart, it's like explosives, genuinely explosives.

And it's sitting in my lap, sitting in my lap aiming downward.

Scotty, let's be honest here.

I've seen a problem already.

That region as a male would not be ideal for the airbag to go off to.

It'd be goodbye Father's Day.

It'd be a whole bunch of issues.

But carry on Scotty, carry on.

I did that.

So, well, I guess before I even got to take the airbag bit off, I had a look on the sides and I saw, of course, it's not normal screws.

It's those damn Torx ones.

They were really, really stuck in there because they use Loctite on them.

Yeah.

That was a pain in the butt.

Finally got those off.

So I'm like, you know, that's fine.

All good.

Have a look.

Take it off.

And then I noticed a couple of screws up there holding the silver fascia in.

And then I have another and I take those off.

But then I noticed that behind I can see two more screws that are facing the opposite direction.

I'm like, oh, all right.

Take the wheel off.

Steering wheel off.

Steering wheel's got to come off.

So that means disconnect the battery.

Disconnect that.

Then I can take the airbag off, sit that aside.

Not on your lap.

No.

I thought it's fine now.

It's disconnected, whatever.

So I'm like, okay, that's fine.

Got everything undid.

Steering will come off easy.

There's no dramas.

Just a couple of taps on the sides.

Boom.

Off that comes.

Take off the behind.

There's another plastic shroud bit on the steering wheel.

Take that off.

And then I see the two screws out there.

I take those off.

Still doesn't come off.

There's another two tiny screws down the bottom.

Take those off.

Still not coming off.

There's another two more little screws that are kind of like hidden up near because it's

got these little flat pretend flappy paddle.

It's got flappy paddles on it.

Even with CVT, but it's got flappy paddles.

And up around there is another two screws.

Take those off.

And then there's another two screws.

I finally get all that off.

Everything finally comes off.

I can see it all there in its glory.

I go to put on the new one.

Nah, wrong one.

Yeah.

The one I got is the one that doesn't have the flappy paddles and stuff.

So I can't wire that in.

Even the plug on the bottom that goes into the main thing just doesn't have enough wires.

Can't you swap the switch over?

You can't swap the switch over?

Not that I could tell.

It's pretty much the whole, so it comes in a series of, but they're not individual switches.

That's all.

You got three there, but they're all kind of just joined together.

So I thought I kind of just pop open and have a look inside it, but there's just circuit boards in there.

Like I'm not digging through that.

I'm making it worse.

What were you saying, Scotty?

What were you saying?

No, I actually don't tell us that.

One would be good for community radio.

I just went, oh no.

Just so no.

So I'm putting it back together and then I realized I still had two screws left over.

I knew exactly where they were.

They were up near the switches, so I had to take it off again, fix that, put it back on.

Get the steering wheel back on, but then I noticed the plug wiring that I had was meant to feed through and it was hitting, I guess, outside of it and getting squished.

So I had to take the steering wheel off again to do that and finally fix it, got it on perfect.

Go to start the car and her entertainment unit in the middle needs a code.

Was it in the book?

No, no, there's none of that.

This is a second hand one because her original one died, so I got this one out of the same unit as in a Civic.

All right, okay.

Where the cigarette lighter is.

Get a 10 mil socket up there and undo that and then pop off the sides and then remove the unit so I can read the damn serial number.

So I can put that in there and then get the code and then put it all back together and I'm back to where I started.

Five hours later.

Five hours.

That's two, I reckon.

Probably like four.

Was Ash like, sorry, your car's all fixed and you just like don't ever talk to me again.

What an absolute nightmare.

Just to get this plastic fascia off on the outside like all these screws just to get to it.

Curse you, Honda, curse you.

See, someone say that's a curse and someone say that's a well engineered vehicle.

It does not need that many screws to hold a piece of plastic at all.

Yeah, those things come off.

I learned very early on once it started becoming a thing we had to repair steering wheels and I dropped them off to get them re-tuned and recovered and stuff.

I don't do anything.

I don't take the wheels off because they're all different and because we work on every sort of car.

I just made the rule very early on that they can get them off.

They can take them to their mechanic or if it's the workshop, the workshop can do it.

Then it's their trouble.

But all those different bits and pieces that fit on some cars have got a stork for the cruise control that the other models in the range don't have and all that sort of stuff that clips on and off and stuff.

Toyota is obviously a lot of Corolla wheels we do and everything clips on and off those.

I think there's two screws holding something on and that's it.

But no, that's particularly well engineered, Scotty, by the sound of it.

Well engineered, okay.

If that's what you call it, it's thought it just a massive headache.

Well, okay.

Well, that's a shame.

I don't know why that.

Like did you try some compressed air or something behind the switch to see if there was just something stopping it?

Yeah, I've tried all that.

I've searched up online and even in America that's got the similar ones they all have had the issue where that switch just ends up dying.

Okay, interesting.

Is that unique to the inside or is that all like those with that specific steering wheel?

No, it wasn't just for the inside.

So there was some civics around that time that was very similar.

Yeah, I think the wheels would be the same wheel.

They just didn't have the flappy pedal attachments.

All the steering wheel looked maybe a tiny bit different, but the buttons and stuff was all the same.

Either they had buttons on the right hand side, but none on the left.

Yeah, all the other way around.

Yeah, but ashes has got on both sides.

So there's buttons on the left and buttons on the right.

Okay.

It's premium.

It's a vehicle.

Yeah, yeah.

And then some of them didn't come with the GPS in the middle.

So yeah, but hers has got that system.

But I will say removing the stereo piece of cake.

You just remove that middle, the where the 12 volt socket bit is that just actually pulls and pops out.

And then up underneath is just a 10 mil or you can use a screwdriver.

You can, but they'll probably be more awkward.

But just 10 mil socket and undo that.

And then the fascia around the outside just pops off, pops open and it just slides straight out.

Yeah, that's easy.

So, so in other words, your update was not really an update.

It was more of a frustrate.

Yeah, because the end result is back to the way it was.

Nothing has changed.

And we're also back with a few extra people.

Alan Deep Singh has joined us.

Edward Bunting has joined us and Jim Barlow has joined us.

How are you gentlemen?

Good evening.

I got to ask you this question.

Ed, how are you?

Yeah, good.

Oh, no, no, no, it's like hi, Effie.

You just say hello.

Yeah, good.

Thanks.

Yeah.

So you could say hi.

Good.

Thanks.

Yeah.

Because how are you?

Good.

Thanks.

Makes sense.

They just say hello.

They'll say welcome to the show.

Good.

Thanks.

Yeah.

She's a cracker.

Good to see you guys.

We were just in the middle of car updates.

David Prince is next.

Oh, I got a name at car frustrates.

It's perfect.

Yeah.

Car frustrates.

David.

No frustrates, thankfully.

The I called in today and saw the LN that's had new ball joints

and new tire ends fitted to it and a new rear muffler.

Lovely.

So it's just waiting on a test drive and a front end alignment

to after all that front end work.

Oh, my goodness.

We'll have to.

It won't know itself.

So I'm looking forward to driving that again because I think

that'll make a big, big difference.

It was always a bit woolly in the steering, but since I've had

it.

So hopefully that solved that.

What else?

I, or the Accord made it down from Seville to Dingley to the

gearbox event on Saturday.

So it's a little bit closer for me to get.

I haven't managed to actually get to pick it up, but I know

it's there.

So that's exciting.

I've been enjoying the type R, not nearly as much as I probably

would have liked to.

Have you still got it or?

I still have for, wow.

It's a time now, 724.

So, you know, about half a day left.

But yeah, it's done nothing to dull my enthusiasm for it,

my lack of use.

I mean, that car, it's as comfortable doing a, you know,

a run to pick up takeaway as it is, you know, overgrowing.

It's just, it's a nuts thing.

I'll set it to a few people.

It's probably the best car I've driven, like in terms of like,

like as a whole package.

It's, it's, it's fantastic.

But I can.

So, you know, that's, that's about it.

I'm just going over the, or drive the Grand Prix again.

The Grand Prix is running beautifully at the moment.

That's ready.

I think Ed was going to borrow that and have it give it a little.

Is that ready for my shakedown yet, David?

Your Italian tune up.

I think it needs your Italian tune.

Beautifully.

Well, then no need for me to touch it.

No, no, you can, you can have a go and you can cycle through.

It's probably a nice adjunct to service month, actually,

giving, giving you a car to drive each month, one in one out

and then see how they come back.

I'll just think about which one of mine needs a vinyl slash leather

repair and there we go.

There we go.

I think that's a great idea.

It's, it's, it's funny.

You mentioned Italian tune ups because a good friend who's been

on the show, Alex from legit street cars, he's, he's Italian

himself and, and he, he, he's like, everyone keeps saying Italian

tune up, but like, I don't know if it's a real thing.

So I want to ask real Italian.

So he calls his, he calls his cousin that lives in Italy and was

like, was like, have you heard of the term Italian tune up?

They're like, what is that?

They're like, when you guys beat, you know, like get up it and,

you know, clean it out.

And he's like, he's like, no, we don't do that.

He would have said, we just call it a tune up.

Tune off.

Yeah.

So yeah.

So there you go.

It'll, it'll be the Edward Italian tune up.

That is our sound.

Yep.

The only other update is actually be work related.

I had, I had an inquiry the other day from a gentleman who had a

new Tesla model Y with the white interior.

And they decided that the white interior is a bit bright.

And they were wondering if I could recolor the interior.

What?

Why?

Yes, I can for a good amount of money.

And I said, no, I can't because I said, unfortunately, the

materials used in your, the vegan leather, used in your Tesla

has a coating on it, which resists anything I've tried to put on it.

It's not painted with a water-based finish.

I can't paint it with a solvent-based finish.

Whatever you try and put on it, it's like trying to paint, I don't

know, butterfly wings or something.

It's just not, nothing sticks to it.

And I had to know.

Good to know.

Yes.

Oh, and they wear it absolutely appallingly quickly, but they,

and obviously if you stain them, well, you know, you just early on

when I was trying to repair them, I would actually just use white,

just pure pigment.

There was no color whatsoever.

It's the only repair I've ever done where I've used white and

haven't had to put anything else with it, you know, to tint it.

Anyway, this was pure out of the bottle.

So I thought, oh, great color matching.

You know, that's easy.

But, but, you know, they've decided it's a bit bright now.

So, yeah, I said, well, you could have the car re-trimmed.

Oh, that would cost a lot of money.

I said, yes, it would.

Did you tell them, did you tell them go speak to a guy at Super

Chief and get some seat, get some seat covers?

That'd be nice, wouldn't it?

Some, some Barbie seat covers or something.

That would be funny.

Little mermaid seat covers or something on it.

Absolutely.

Imagine going through that whole process of buying the car and deciding

that the white interior was a bit bright.

I thought, wow, okay, there's a whole website dedicated to a whole

Facebook page dedicated to those sorts of inquiries.

Yeah.

Interesting times.

But no, it was very, very, very glad when I returned the call that I,

as I was talking to him, I realized, okay, well, this is a job I don't

have to factor in.

He didn't know it at that stage, of course, but I knew well before he did

that it was not a job I was going to be doing.

Absolutely.

So there you go.

I think that's me.

That's you.

Let's go with Alan Deep.

How are you, my friend?

I'm good.

Thank you.

No real car updates for me.

Everything's still going as it should.

Hopefully I keep neglecting to get the Honda interest.

Because it just doesn't really go anywhere apart from the groceries,

which is I think two kilometers down the road.

So hopefully I was hoping that my parents would visit the old country

and I could have the Honda out on the work run constantly to do my

fuel economy shenanigans again.

But that probably won't take place till towards the end of the year.

So in the meantime, I think I'll just might just do the oils myself

and kind of get it a better service towards the end of the year.

Sounds good.

Edward Bunting.

Hello.

Greetings.

Car frustrates.

I don't think I have too many.

The laser got some more cosmetic detailing last week on the interior.

So, you know, the seats have been bristled and I don't know.

What had Nick done?

Plumped up the fibers on the door trims and...

You did say it had...

Oh, we talked about it.

He gave it a haircut.

Haircut.

That's right.

The filler machines, yeah.

So he did some bristling last week and, yeah, some other bits and bobs.

That, oh, we, you know, I said to him,

well, you can just do the things it needs for roadworthy.

And he went, what do you mean?

So we replaced the front wiper blades easy.

Then we, that needed rear shock bump stops.

So I said to Nick, right, while I'm working,

you can pull out the rear bump stops, you know, rear pull out the shocks.

You know, I've never pulled out a shock.

And I was like, well, it's those bolts that take off that cover.

So that was great.

I got, I got a couple of texts from when I was,

I was upstairs doing my normal work and I got a couple of texts.

Help, please.

Help.

So I was a summons to the garage,

not that I'm any expert pulling out shocks,

but you know, you figure it out.

Yeah, you done magnets.

You can do anything.

That's the matter.

So we did those, put the bump stops in and yeah, that was,

it's pretty much all the things are done for roadworthy now.

So, but it is a bit rattly from at idle.

You know, there's a bit of a vibration from the motor, you know,

like a, but when you put in neutral and give it a rev,

or when you're accelerating it, that goes away.

And I was like, what is that?

Is it an exhaust heat shield or a, you know,

a pulley on the alternator, a bearing, you know, that's something.

So I put my screwdriver up to a few bits around the motor

and I couldn't really pinpoint any of the accessories.

But when I took off the oil filler cap, it was a lot louder.

And I'm like, I think that's a timing chain tensioner

because they are a chain that motor, which is good.

And it hasn't done squiddings of case, but it's so rattly.

I'm like, I reckon that's a tensioner that's let go.

And, you know, of course, when you put some pressure on it,

it takes up the slack and it's a bit, a bit happier

and doesn't make that noise.

So I'm hoping that that tensioner is, is sort of,

you can take off the side of the timing cover and replace it

and sort of put the cover back on, you know,

you don't have to pull off the whole timing case cover and things.

Anyway, I'm getting a garage to do that next week.

And then I'll put it in for its roadie photos and everything.

And then we'll maximize the length of time we have on the roadie.

Because of course they only last 30 days.

So that's the laser.

What else? What else? What else?

Nothing.

Don't they go board anything?

Don't they go solve anything?

Oh.

How dull.

Lovely, Edward.

Lovely.

2026 has started off real dull.

Oh, Edward.

Booby.

Sorry.

Um, Jim, fresh cuts.

Yes, thank you.

You won't say the next part of that.

I won't say the next part of that line normally.

It is a family show.

It's one of one of my usual northern terms that I think Edward is

Edward and I think also Thomas is like, geez,

you guys like in the north have all the sayings for everything.

So we do, we do, but Jim updates with you.

So on Saturday I went to Dingley for the Honda Car Club

gearbox, which was good to catch up with people.

Got to ogle over David today's.

Got to have a look at David Day's S600 a bit closer,

which was wonderful.

And then I drove out and caught up with Paul Gutt,

who is going to look underneath my magma.

He actually ended up giving it a decent service too.

So I had a new air filter, oil filter, oil,

new fuel filter as well.

That's driving a lot better.

So it's really good.

I think that tank high average, like eight and a half liters per

hundred K's, which was a mix of highway and then also quite a

bit of bumper to bumper driving actually.

So that was alright.

And then a, um, I remember the conversation I had with my,

now no longer mechanically the other day when I had that

transmission fluid incorrect thing, which I had forgotten,

which was that they had said to me, oh, um, you know,

as the car gets older, you know, it might sort of use oil.

You'll have to check the oil level a lot more frequently.

And, um, I said, okay, but do I have to do that now?

And they said, no, no, no, now's fine.

But just down the track, you might have to.

Is this for the Civic or is this for the Civic?

And then this afternoon, I remember, oh,

maybe I should check that.

Top of the engine is covered in oil and it was a millimeter

underneath the low mark, which has never happened in that

Civic before.

So I'm feeling a little bit angry.

Um, Jim, don't be angry.

So, um, yeah, I had intended to wait until pay week next week

to get the Civic service anyway, a bit ahead of time,

but I think I will have to hurry that up now.

Did you put the oil in?

Oh yeah, I did.

I did.

I already had some in the car, but like I never have to use it

because there's no need.

So, yeah.

So when you say the top of the engine was covered with oil,

um, was, do you think the, the, the cap wasn't on tightly?

No, it was untitled.

It was untitled.

It's just, obviously it's leaking from, I think,

various locations.

It's just spring over top of the engine.

So, yeah.

It sounds more like a leak than it's used.

Yeah.

It sounds like it's probably like a, like a valve cover gasket

or something like that.

So best thing to do is try to clean it off and, and run it

and see if you can see it coming from anywhere.

That, that, that will be what I would recommend just to try.

That way you can get to the bottom of it and say, oh yeah,

it needs, it needs valve cover gasket or it needs, you know,

timing, timing case, whatever.

So, or it could even be from the, from the filler cap.

Like that.

They do like the seals do go.

So worth having a, having a sus.

Okay.

And then at some stage, I'll book the magnet in to have a

wheel alignment done.

I think there's a couple of bushes that need doing cause it's,

as I've said a few times in other bumps, it's just a bit unsettled,

but yeah.

So that's all of my car updates.

Lovely.

Okay.

Well, we'll get to hopefully getting that stuff sorted ASAP updates

with me.

What have I done?

I only do much on cars.

I haven't done much on cars these last few weeks, actually,

to be fair.

But I went on a Saturday to, sorry, Sunday to the,

what's it called?

You do know where I went cause it was, cause I was,

it was about to laugh with them about to tell him.

I went to picnic at hanging rock.

So yeah.

First of all, I've never been a friend of mine said to me on

Saturday evening, what are you doing tomorrow?

I said, I said, sleeping in.

He's like, no, you're not, you're coming to, to, to, you know,

picnic at hanging rock, which is a, which is a big car show.

My God.

It was a big car show.

It was, it was huge.

So we, we, we went up there and well, I, I got there first and

then funny story.

I had no reception when I, when I got there.

So I was like, well, I don't know where he, where he is.

So I, I went in and then I was walking around like an idiot,

holding my phone up in the air, trying to get reception and got

reception messages and said, I'll meet you at this, this point.

As I did that, I'm walking back to the place where I said,

and I just hear, hi, Matty.

And I turn around, guess who it is?

David Day.

Of course it is.

So he is the man, the myth, the legend.

This man just like quite literally pops up everywhere.

He popped up everywhere in Japan twice.

Like your spirit guide, isn't he?

He is.

He's, he's actually like, I mean, for those of you who haven't

played Zelda, he feels like Navi, the little, the little thing

that helps you, the, the fairy that helps you.

Oh, he's there.

Okay.

So this is the way you got to go.

Do you know the way to go to here?

Oh, well I do now.

So, you know, I told, I told Steph this because, you know,

we, we, we saw him on, as we coming back to, as we landed

in Japan and we'd already had a horrible flight because of

delays and then a person on the flight was, let's just say,

not exactly the nicest of passengers.

And so we missed the train and we're like angry and Steph and

I are about to like kind of murder each other because like,

let's get our bags, let's get a train.

We couldn't get one.

And we just hear as soon as we get off.

Hi Matty.

Hi Steph.

We turn it out.

David Day.

There he is.

So, you know, he is quite literally, he's actually, he's an

absolutely lovely man.

He is one of the, one of the all time greats.

So he was there in his S 600, which is a gorgeous little car.

It is, it is, it is lovely.

It's, it's a very, very nice car.

And like, I know we've talked about his cars a little bit,

but he's a really interesting man, isn't he?

Like he's got really ratty cars, but then he's also got like

lovely cars like that.

And it's, and I love how he's got a bit of everything and

nothing's all, you know, but he uses them, which is,

which is really, really cool to see as, as Edward bumped into

him on the, on the, on the freeway in the middle of nowhere

and he's building a box on a 45 degree day.

So, you know, it's, he's, he's, he's a very interesting man.

But, but that was good to see him.

It was cool to see cars.

I've never actually been to this event before.

Rob was there with, with his car as well.

So, so that was called, to call to see.

So he's, he's showing a picture of, there he is.

That's when I was read.

That's 40 years ago, that photo was taken.

Wow.

When he first bought it.

And that's it in there.

Wow.

Was that a legit delivered car?

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

So, so yeah, that's, um, yeah.

So, so look, the event was great.

Plenty of cars, something there for everybody.

There was, there was Trebanse.

There was P76's.

There you go, Rob.

I'll speak to that guy for about 15 minutes.

Um, uh, there was,

and it was mentioned 44 gallon drum.

Oh, mate.

He was, he was all about the 44 gallon drum.

Don't get, don't, don't worry about that.

He was, you know,

I've never seen one that had the drum in the boot though.

No.

No, I have.

They do fit.

Yeah.

I've never seen one.

You have at a show, you'd, you'd have the boot open with the drum in it.

That would be the, you know.

Well, this one was a lovely blue tiger floreo and, you know,

they were a really nice thing.

Like, you know, by the, you know, we got talking and it was like, yeah,

the early cars, they, they rush them to market and then, you know,

the, the country, you know, shit can them and, um, cause I wanted to say

Ford and Holden and a few other, you know, issues.

But by the end of their run, once they got them right,

they were a relatively really good car.

Like, and, and a lot of people that,

that only piece of this is IE Rob swears by them.

So, but then he showed me,

he proceeded to show me the boot and it's quite literally,

it's kind of bowed in to fit that, that, that drum.

Yeah.

So it's, it's, it's, it's pretty, pretty, pretty amazing.

I'm like, I don't know who's carrying 44 gallon drums, just, just because, but.

That guy from snow town,

whose surname was Bunting who murdered the barrels.

Okay.

That's, that's what he should have been driving.

A P76.

Maybe he was.

I don't know.

I don't know if he's ever around.

No relation, by the way.

No relation.

I appreciate the fact that you mentioned that.

I was very concerned for a moment.

Oh, Uncle John.

Great guy.

He was just misunderstood.

That's all.

Yeah.

You've ever seen the prototype of the wagon?

There are a couple of wagons getting around.

Okay.

If you Google P76 wagon, it, it absolutely works.

It's one of those cars.

It looks better in a wagon.

Better in a wagon.

Sorry.

That's just my, my personal and the, and of course there were four seven Vs,

which were the hatchback version.

Doodle coupe.

Doodle coupe, but they were an ungainly looking thing.

I always thought, and partly I think, and Rob, I'm sure Rob would correct me

and, and, and please do if, if I'm wrong, but I think they used the sedan doors

rather than engineer it to have a longer door.

That wouldn't surprise me.

They didn't have a lot of money.

And so at the door, you know, it, that contributed to the sort of ungainliness of them.

But, but the wagon actually really worked.

The wagon was quite a good looking car.

But everyone into production, sadly.

Yeah.

It was, it's, it's a car of many.

Yeah.

It's one of those cars of many, many hits, but many misses and many missed opportunities

I think, but you know, holds a special place in, in, in Australian history.

So, you know, gotta, gotta give it that.

Rob, was there any segregation of different brands or makes or anything or stuff?

Not really.

There was just kind of stuff everywhere.

I mean, obviously the Toyota car club had their, their little stand section there.

And, but, but there was, there was, you know, big girl with W126 is next to, next to LTDs

and stuff like it was, it was a whole, it was just, it was all everywhere.

There was, there was a Renault 10, which was really cool.

I figured how small they are.

They're really tiny little things.

It was one of those.

There was in that really cool blue too, like that Alpine blue.

It looked great.

And there was some, there was some, you know, awesome, awesome cars.

They're like really cool stuff.

So, yeah, they had something for everybody.

So would, would recommend going to, going to that event if you haven't been,

I'm probably going to get next year because I think it was, it was quite good.

So, so yeah, I did that.

So Rob, Rob's, well, I didn't see him, but I, but I did see his car there.

And I was like, I think that's Rob's car.

Turns out, turns out I was his car.

He's lovely old Mercedes.

The coupe.

Yeah, the coupe.

That is a very nice car.

I, you know, it's, yeah, I was, I was, I'm a fan of that thing.

So, so he took that down there and he's, his friends obviously took their

mustangs and stuff.

So, but yeah, it was, it was a good, it was, it was a really nice event.

Plenty of, plenty of cars.

As I said, something for everybody that had all different things.

So that was, it was good to see.

So that was, I think that's pretty much it on my car.

So we're also joined by Mr. Turbot Terry himself.

Anthony Falk.

How are you my friend?

Yeah, not too bad guys, but I'll try him in and say hi in a second.

Cause I got to go and run and get Lucy cause she's just working up from a very

small 15 minute nap.

So I will come back around and let you know when I'm back.

Sounds good, mate.

Sounds good.

You do that, buddy.

You do that.

Alright, I'll be back.

Cool.

Moving on tonight to tonight's topic, gentlemen.

So the car scene.

This is a interesting, interesting thing, interesting point of discussion.

I wanted to talk about the car scene because for some of our more esteemed

members of this, of this podcast and show, you would have seen, you know,

I mean, we all have seen, you know, trends come and go.

But what's interesting to know is that a lot of trends are coming back and things

like Sydney sex back and, and, you know, big, big systems are starting to,

starting to make a, make a, make a resurgence, but also, you know, acceptance of,

of the ricer scene, which was kind of canned quite extensively, especially here

in Australia and in America, really getting the people back, you know,

falling in love with the scene again.

It got me questioning and I want to put this to you guys.

Cars are like fashion.

Obviously, you know, they get cool and uncool, but the car scene cannot always has

like the one, you know, I guess you could say, except the thing.

These other subcultures of the car scene have started to make a resurgence again.

That have kind of been, been away.

Why do you think that is?

And do you think it's a good thing?

Because I think it's a great thing.

I think, you know, people that, you know, really did the, the whole sex back, you know,

big Chrome is big, big car, you know, car interior, big, you know, big speaker system,

you know, no performance, which is, which is fine.

It was just to look cool and cruise.

You know, I mean, I mean, look at Mighty Car Mods, they're really getting into it again.

Do you think that this is because we've all just welcoming it in the face of like a kind

of a big screw you movement to the EVs and stuff that are out?

Because that's what I think it's from.

But, you know, because there is no individuality with any of those cars.

So, you know, it was a cool time and I look back on it fondly.

But what do you guys reckon?

I think it's a also a new generation that's been able to see it.

Okay.

What are they seeing, Scott?

Some sex back cars.

So they're not cars.

Is that a thing?

It is.

It was a massive thing.

Wouldn't I want to have a picture better?

Would you mind that for me, please?

I just did.

It was it was big, chromey wheels, big sound systems, full like interior.

Like they kind of look like show cars.

Oh, like real modern cars.

And usually airbrushed out the front with some kind of image.

You know, usually had a theme.

There was some kind of theme.

Yeah.

They'd had to go with it.

Don't you body kits frequently that weird mesh?

That looks like somebody stole it from somebody's fence.

Yeah.

In the in the pod areas, like my neighbor had, he had a sex spec Lancer.

Two door.

Yeah.

Of course.

He's very proud of it.

He's like, yeah, it's a cool car, isn't it?

It's like your Subaru.

I'm like, there's nothing like my Subaru.

You take that back.

You bring up a good point.

It's, you know, the new young people are like, you know, they're kind of getting into it.

And I think that's, I think that's a good thing.

You know, I think, I think that era of, of, of modification was.

And, and this is why I'm not, I'm not bagging Hondas, but I'm talking,

I'm, I'm praising them because I'm Hondas.

No, I'm saying because the Honda scene back in the late nineties, early 2000s,

really pioneered this.

Like it was, you know, everyone was doing up a Honda.

Yeah.

And it was because one, that was the RX.

That's for sure.

So what was that, David?

There were some crimes against CRX.

It was civics too.

Yes.

There were plenty of crimes, crimes against civics.

I think more, more civics than CRX's were, were, were sex backed up.

But these.

The only reason I go to CRX, because I always think of one parked in North

Richmond, still there.

The number plates, bad CRX and my appropriate number plate.

This thing is like a, like a chameleon sort of pinky purple color has a long,

long time flat tires, you know, but it's still currently,

well, last time I checked it was currently registered.

Does this, does this still have the, I think it's a calm thing.

You know, it's got like the Altezza rear tail light.

Yeah.

I know this car.

Yeah.

Okay.

Well, yeah, I understand where you're coming from, David, because I, because I,

I know this is a, it would break your heart to see an original CRX like that.

But, but again, the Honda scene, I think, especially in America, you know,

everyone, we're doing turbo D series and, and, you know, putting B series swaps

and, and, and what have you, like they were, they were doing crazy body kits.

And, you know, cause they were so accessible and they were easy to modify

and there was a bazillion of them made.

So, you know, oh, I'll ruin one.

I'll go get another one for another $2,000.

You know, it was, it was a scene where it was, you know, it was accepted for,

and it gave people the opportunity to modify their cars and to,

and to do that sort of stuff.

Now they're considered all, you know, rises and stuff.

But, you know, in terms of, in terms of what it did and what it allowed for,

for young, young people, especially, you know, the Honda scene really kind of,

kind of, you know, pioneered it, I think, pioneered the, the modification scene

for, for the 21st century anyway.

And because like, you know, especially back then, well, even in Australia,

like, like, you know, the hot force scene wasn't really big.

You know, it wasn't really a thing.

It was always our Aussie muscle or a V8 or XYZ.

But like, you know, the hot force scene really came strong, came on strong

in late 90s, early 2000s.

It was a magazine, Fast Fours and Rotaries.

Fast Fours and Rotaries, absolutely.

You know, this is, this is, this is the era, this is the era I'm talking about.

So that was the two, two magazines.

You had the, the Fast Fours and the Hot Fours.

Yeah.

And then there was another one, which was.

Oh, Hot Fast Fours.

No, no, no, no.

There was two.

There was another one that didn't have sex spec stuff.

And it was the one that I kind of bought more copies of.

It was more about, it was more performance tuning ones and cars from Japan and stuff.

Was that, was that the magazine Zoom?

No, it wasn't Zoom.

I do remember Zoom.

Yeah, Zoom.

Zoom was big.

I remember Zoom.

I think the Zoom magazine, but I don't think that's relevant.

Of course you do, Alan.

What would a magazine be called about our cars?

Slow Fours?

It would be called Eclectic.

Because we were just, we're just.

Slow Fours and too many doors.

Yeah.

Slow Fours with classics.

And then there'd be like a spread in the middle of the magazine called The Potential.

It was called High Performance Imports.

That's right.

Do you remember that?

Yes.

That was the one I always went to because it was cars done up for like racing and everything.

It was awesome magazine.

Is that the one or an Aussie one?

Aussie one.

Aussie, but they, I remember they used to do like a lot of like, you know, screenshots essentially of like, you know, hot, hot, um, hot version and, and, and stuff from, from Japan.

We're like, you know, Keiichi and stuff would be sideways in, in whatever car.

Um, they had a lot of spoon, you know, and Mugen, you know, in influences in there.

And I guess the real tune, like Invertecom's real tuners, the tuners, I like to, you know, to play with the cars.

I think like in performance wise, they were really got into, into, into that magazine, Scotty.

Yeah.

So that had all of that.

So if you're into that side of things when it comes to tuning and stuff like that, you'd get that magazine.

Hot fours and fast fours on the cover was always sexback car and then a model.

And then you flick through the pages and then there'll be a write up on her.

Yeah.

She wouldn't be an actress.

Yeah.

It was quite literally, it was quite literally, that was the common answer.

You're going to move to Hollywood.

Yeah.

It was, it was a different time, Edward.

It was a different time.

Was it?

Scott, I would, I would buy the.

I have Instagram.

Exactly.

I would buy the opposite to that magazine.

Like rather than high performance imports.

I'm not interested in either of those things.

I would go low performance Australian delivered.

Delivered.

Yeah.

Is a magazine I would buy.

I can't find that one anywhere.

And it's got a nice lumberjack, you know, with the next as well.

My kind of magazine on deep.

Middle aged man standing on the front.

And he's like, I got the base model.

I'm all about, I want to hear about that guy.

The photo is like right from like under his chin, like the, you know,

the boomer Facebook photo.

It's like, this is, this is Bruce, you know, hear about him.

It's like, yeah, I like to go to the pub.

Why did you choose this?

Why'd you choose this base model?

Oh, I didn't need a CD player.

And then when we lost leaves me, she's got less to take.

Control.

I don't cruise and I'm out of control.

These are, these are the questions of the air.

That should be another topic.

What would your car magazine be called?

You know, the articles in it.

We should do that and save that for next week.

Yeah.

100%.

What do you do for fun?

Like what's crazy at night?

Oh, mind sweep on expert mode.

Sometimes I clock back 10 minutes to confuse my wife.

That's fun.

All right, you got some homework for next week, gentlemen.

You've got to come up with a magazine and I'll tell you what,

I'll use my design skills to design a cover, like a cover page for it.

And I'll, and I'll, and I'll put, I'll give them all to you.

How does that sound?

Meet you in my car on one of my cars on the cover.

And we need a picture of your face too, Edward.

You just like, you just take a screenshot right now.

It's going to be, yeah, good.

Yeah, good.

Good. Thanks.

Yeah, good.

The adventures of your base model.

Back on, back on topic, gentlemen.

So sorry, David.

No, no, I just had a thought.

I just had a thought.

One of the, one of the things that's driving this, that resurgence that

we're talking about is nostalgia and quarter of a century.

So we're 2025, a lot of those 99, 2001 Lancers and all that sort of thing.

So the, the, the people who have had them in their early 20s are now in

their mid 40s.

You know, they probably got the cash to actually, oh, I remember that.

I remember.

Oh, I'm going to do it again.

You know, like that pick up the Lancer for nothing.

You know, all the, well, the AK civics are going up all the time.

But yeah, I mean, it's like, you know, the people who wanted GT Falcons,

you know, but could never afford them.

And that drove the price up of those.

So, top tip by your sex spec Lancer now while you, while they're still affordable.

Absolutely.

Why is it called sex spec?

Oh, it's a really.

It's a great question.

Yeah.

I've got no answer.

We're meant to look sexy, I suppose.

And as you quite rightly pointed out, there was usually an aspiring

actress photograph next to them.

Yeah, this is, this is true.

This is true.

So, so, okay, I've just Googled it.

The term sex spec refers to late 1990s to early 2000s car modification

style characterized by the flamboyant aesthetics rather than performance

designed specifically to turn heads, look sexy and attract attention.

The term combined sex as in hot and sexy looking with spec modification

describing cars with bright paint, huge chrome wheels and custom

interiors.

There you go.

So that, that Lancer, that laser that you like, Maddie, one of the four

explored ones, you know, that's a bit of bling and that that would be a

sex spec laser.

It was kind of like.

The definition of.

Yeah.

Pretty much.

Yeah.

That was, you know, that was, that was the, I was the time that was the

modification style.

That was, that was what you did.

So if I wanted to sex spec the big girl, for example, so that doesn't sound

good, does it?

For those listeners that.

The big girl is a long wheel based Mercedes.

And.

If I wanted to do that, I would lower it.

I would put bling, big, chromey 20 inch on it.

The window is black and may put in some kind of stereo and fluffy

lambswool stuff.

Over the top, Lauren's a car.

Oh yeah.

It's interesting you're saying those people are double David, you mentioned

those people are talking about, you know, the nostalgia factor.

There was a, the other day, a Mitsubishi Lancer that was done in

sex back pink with chromies of that era.

And it was just, it was put into pick apart in, I think it was

Campbellfield.

And the comments on this car were, is the car still available?

Is it still fully completed?

Like it was, I haven't seen a car like it on their page in a long

time.

And this was a sex-backed era like beaten to whole, you know, pink

painted Lancer from the early 2000s.

But, you know, it was obviously all picked apart.

I had genuine like Evo spoiler, Evo bumpers and stuff.

So, so yeah, it would have, it would have been, it would have

been stripped really quick.

But yeah, like people are still, you know, still love that scene.

And, you know, for a while it was really, really hated and their

cars were worth nothing and stuff.

But I think it's, it's making, making a bit of resurgence.

A resurgence though, but with the cars that it was done to

originally.

Yes.

Like nobody's on a modern car.

Yeah.

I don't think anyone's doing sex-backed to any modern, any

modern things.

Unless you guys have seen anything modern that's been.

You know, a current Serato or something and doing a sex-backed

Serato, you're not doing that.

These days I feel it's more, yeah, like you'll put a couple of

stickers on it and kind of call it there, lower it a bit and,

and kind of go on from there.

That's, that's the closest I've really seen.

Nobody's attempting, yeah, getting some weird panels and

going at it and, you know, like I said, bringing, bringing the

big dish chromies up.

Maybe it's just partly it's a cost thing and partly it's also

an availability of, because in the era, I think a lot more

manufacturers were making a better aftermarket kit for the

car.

You say, Hey, I've got a Serato.

Can I sex it up?

And no one looks at you like no one's got any parts to kind of

really get it to that same position.

You'd have to be making everything custom.

Yeah.

That's, that's a fair point.

That is a total fair point.

Like, like now a lot of the car modification, especially like

your civics and your, and your stuff like that, like the parts

are genuinely expensive because they're all done by, all done

by reputable tuning houses and, you know, and Tom's and

for Toyota and all these like, you know, they're, they're

genuine kits and they cost a fortune and they're not, you know,

they're not easy to replicate because obviously, you know, the

demand to modify like that's not nowhere near as big as it used

to be.

You know, used to buy like a knockoff, you know, you know,

gritty parts and all this sort of stuff.

But now it's like, no, you want it?

That's, you got to pay the big bucks.

And it's, it's a shame because, you know, that, that era, you

know, really got, well, I think what helped to is because a lot

of the cars that were getting modified were cheap.

Like, like, like they weren't, they weren't your high end.

I mean, I mean, somewhere like for your big show cars, but, but

they weren't your, you know, your, your really expensive, you

know, Lexus and stuff like that.

They were your cheap civics, your charades.

Remember how many charades were modified with body kits?

And they were, they were your, you know, your.

Those, those Lancer Coops, the good looking ones.

The great looking car.

Well, they're all quite good looking Lancer Coops.

Shout out to Laura.

Those Lancer Coops were cheap and they were quite a nice shape

that really lended itself to mods.

So they were what 13, 14 grand.

You could get into a brand spanking, plain Jane Lancer

Coop, I think.

And then of course, wheels and windows and seat covers, grills

and, you know, it was easy to tweak them.

A friend of mine, I used to know quite well.

He was, he was big into the sexback era.

Like, like, like that was his era.

He bought a, he bought a Mitsubishi Mirage brand new,

like one of the, you know, like those.

Yeah.

And so he said expect that big cromies lowered the most

ridiculous sounds that you'd ever see.

He even had a sub coming out of the bonnet of the car.

So yeah, like in, in, in show, in show form,

like obviously he didn't drive with it on,

but basically what he did was he bought a spare.

Yeah, I know, right?

So I mean, I mean, people did it with blowers and stuff.

Yeah.

So, so, but like he actually looked, it looked like it was,

he ripped up this bonnet in the middle.

It looked like it was torn apart and that the sub was coming

out of the body.

It looked, it looked killer.

It actually looked really cool.

And he, you know, and that was, that was a show car.

And, you know, and he was really into this.

Like he, he's, he's my youth and, you know,

big shout out to you, my friend.

But, you know, he was big in that era,

like really cool in that era.

You know, did some cool cars.

And, you know, whenever people talk about that,

they look at it, they look upon it fondly because it was like,

oh, you know, good times, good people.

It was fun.

But, but, you know, it was, and it was fun because I guess

people were modifying it and they didn't really care.

Whereas now it's like, oh, if you're not modifying with a,

you know, with a, oh, you're not using a, a moogan, a moogan kit.

Oh, that's, you know, what are you doing?

Yeah.

And whereas back then it was like, I don't care.

Like I want to put a sub coming out of my, out of my body

bonnet, which does absolutely nothing.

But, but sure, why the hell not?

You know, and it was cool.

People were pushing the envelope.

You know, it was, it was a cool, cool era.

So yeah.

And the culture as well, like a need for speed underground too.

Oh, yes.

You literally had to rice your car out to progress in the game.

If you didn't have 10 stars by the end of it,

you would be finishing the last few missions.

And unfortunately the way to get the stars was rice out the car.

Like you had a whole sound system and screens and nitrous,

little canisters in your boot.

Scissors.

Hydraulics.

Like the culture was all about it.

And, you know, I think that really did,

because everyone leaned into it as much as there was hate and there

will be hate now.

Like I reserve my right to cringe at some of the things I see.

You know, that's fair.

Just as like everyone doing it reserves their right to actually

kind of be an individual with their own car and kind of explore

these things, you know, make the car how they want to like

resell value be damned.

Like you said, these were cheap cars, at least in that era.

You're not, you know, apart from the money that you're putting

into it, modifying it to please yourself, you're not really

losing that much.

It's not like your car goes from 80 grand to 10 grand because

you've done these modifications.

Well, I want to ask you, because like, because Anthony and I,

do you remember the original Need for Speed Underground came

out, Anthony, and you came over to my place when we were playing

it?

Many, many, many times.

Many times.

Many years ago.

Do you know where Need for Speed was released?

Well, it was originally released in the UK, wasn't it?

No, when?

Oh, when?

Oh, yeah, 90s.

It was 90.

I reckon it was early 90s, like 91.

No, I think that's a bit too, it might have been too early.

I want to say 90.

I want to say the second 1994.

Four.

Okay.

There you go.

So, geez, that's it.

These are okay.

Well, I mean, it's funny though.

Like I was originally, I mentioned you Anthony's because people

remember Underground 1, Underground 2 Most Wanted as some of the

best, you know, car games from that era because they were so

iconic for the modifications for how it was, it was of the time,

you know, and they're still very playable today.

You know, I've played them recently.

I can't remember whether it was one or two that you had the

option of starting with the cry of the neon.

Yeah, number one.

Yeah, that's right.

Number one.

Yeah.

It was, you know, and we, you know, it's, you know,

I look back and I think, and I smile, you know, of that time, Anthony,

like, I don't know about you, but we, we built some looking back now,

horrifically bad looking cars, but terrible.

But it was just, it was like, you know, no need for speed games since

have had that, have had that impact, you know, have had that, you know,

that sense of this was a great game.

You know, this was, this was, I mean, look, they did a few other

ones, pro street and stuff was all right, but like that era,

those three games in particular were just like peak.

It was peak modification, peak sexback, peak, peak, everything about

that era was that early 2000s, I think, and, and that's why those

games are still today looked on, looked upon fondly.

Who is that?

So we've established that nostalgia plays a big part.

What are some other parts that, that have really, you know,

embraced this to come back?

We think.

I think it's,

Would you say affordability in the way of nostalgia?

For now, yes.

Yeah.

For now, we're still coming into that, that kind of moment.

Yeah.

I think it'd be like all things.

Once it becomes more popular, the prices of all those things are

going to go up and up.

Yeah.

Of course.

Well, look, you know, it's funny.

I mean, you got to, you got to go.

I know, but we'll, we'll talk to you later, mate.

Okay.

But, you know, again, clean like lenses and stuff.

Like, I mean, Jim and I have been, you know, sent some cars from

that era to each other, you know, over recent times, clean cars

from that era are just like, they're getting expensive.

You know, they're not, they're not as cheap as they used to be.

Like they're, they're, they're quite pricey.

So, you know, it's, it's a.

What a laser that I've got that we got from Jim.

What, what would I do to suspect that?

Dumped Chromies, crazy paint job, stupid sound system.

That'd be, I mean, I had the stupid sound system in my KH laser.

It was a lot, it was worth way more than the car, but I couldn't afford.

There was nothing six nor speck about that.

No, I couldn't afford the Chromies and I couldn't afford the body kit

and I could afford the paint.

So you just had a crazy sound system.

So, so yeah, but look, it was, it was, it was a great time.

I think it was, it was a really, really cool time.

Let's, yeah, let's see, let's see how that, how that goes.

But I, I think, I think there's a, there's a place for it.

And I think people are going to start remembering it with a bit more,

with a bit more love than, than when, when it first, when it first came out.

I remember there was a lot of those, um, frangipenny flowers on the back of cars.

Yeah.

It was five horsepower per frangipenny.

Yeah.

But was that that era, sort of like late, you know, late 90s, early 2000s?

Was that then?

Late, yeah, late 90s.

Oh yeah.

And more, more 2000s I'd say.

Yeah.

A lot of lances and mirages and things had frangipenny flowers on the back.

Yeah.

Absolutely.

What does that even mean?

Why did they do that?

Just, you know, got it.

It's, as Anthony said, five horsepower per, per frangipenny.

What are they talking about?

Oh, I don't know.

It was, it was a different time.

My frangipenny wanted a rose, wanted something else.

Oh, no.

I think it was tidy.

Frangipenny is a tropical flower.

I think it was like Hawaii, sort of.

Oh, like, you know, you're in Melbourne, but you kind of secretly want to be a nurse.

White Kiki.

Interesting.

Mine.

So that brings the last question before we move on to the quiz.

What other eras of, of modification do you think are going to come back?

Do you think, do you think a lot of them are going to start,

start really ramping up now since, since, as I mentioned earlier, like there are,

the reason I think this is all coming back is because of, you know, modern cars,

which are just so boring.

You know, everyone's like, oh, it's there.

They're all, they're all the same looking box.

You know, you paint them all the same color and they'd be hard to be told, you know,

tell each one apart.

Do you think that like other eras like, you know, like, you know, stuff like that,

they're all going to come to play or because like, you know, as I said,

you don't see anybody modifying new cars.

Like you just don't really see it often.

It's too expensive.

I think like, you know, you, to mod stuff, it's got to be,

it's got to be kind of cheaper.

Doesn't it?

Well, I think most mods these days, anything aesthetically is really a,

a, a rap job, really.

It's probably the most common thing.

You're crazy pain.

Yeah.

Cause I mean, I think these days, probably the cost of a respray is much more

significant probably than it was back in the day as well.

Correct.

So I mean, really anything aesthetically is going to be a set of wheels and a

rap job on your car as opposed to the body kits and everything else like that.

There are merely a lot of cars now.

If you're getting into that little bit of a sporty esk, let's just say like a

I 30 N or something like that, you know, it has some level of a body kit to,

to look that sort of part, but I mean, it's not as unique as you would expect

most 90s, 2000s expect to sort of be with their more ridiculousness.

And I guess that's probably because they have those options now for when you go

to that sort of sporty car these days compared to just a bog stock Lancer

or Civic or whatever else it was like it used to be.

You look at things like new Jimny, they're not often modding the,

the look of it so much.

Like, I mean, people will put wheels on.

I disagree.

I think they modify a lot of body, body parts.

Like, if you look at Jimny's Jimny, yeah, maybe they do.

Jimny's actually have a pretty big aftermarket set up on it.

There was actually fun enough before I ended up jumping on.

There was a clip of a guy out in Camperfield and they'd done a G-Wagon

front end on a Jimny.

They call them mini G's.

I was going to say more accessories than mods, but maybe you're right.

Actually, there are quite a few looks mods on it, but definitely accessories.

I mean, there was a, there was a thing I watched on it.

I think in Thailand or Malaysia or somewhere and they had the Jimny Club

and no two were like, they were all seriously, seriously kitted out.

So cars, some cars like that lend itself to it, but you don't sort of get people

taking a plane Jaina and modding it in a new car really.

Yeah.

I mean, unless it's a four wheel drive.

And I think I think four wheel drive, especially recent times,

like nobody's modifying, you know, like major modifying, you know, cars these days,

but it's the modifications you mainly see on fourbies.

You know, you're buying a hundred thousand dollars, 70, 75 series or 79 series.

Those are a classic of the mod.

And then you, and then you're spending another double, you're spending double that on it

in terms of lifting it and doing this and all the gear and no idea kind of,

kind of mentality.

Like no one's taking a Kia Picanto base model and tweaking it.

But see, people used to do that in sex back.

Like, you know, you would, you would, you would say, oh, you know,

I'm going to, I'm going to modify the absolute living crap out of this,

out of this, this, this, this Steve.

You know what I mean?

Like it was, it was, it was stuff that you did.

It was just, it was something that was embraced.

There was a market out there.

There was parts out there.

You're not going to find parts to be able to do that for a Kia.

Japanese cars back then were cheap.

And there was parts everywhere for them.

But now we're past that time of the nineties and they're too old now and

they're too expensive.

Well, to add to that point, you know, we're talking about magazines earlier.

I remember in those magazines, I remember this is clear as day.

They had, it's probably a magazine from 2003, 2004.

And it had a, you know, had body kits for, and it showed all the cars with body

kits. It had lasers, three, two, three's, Corollas, Civics,

Getz has had, had Getz modified Getz as an excels with body kits.

And like, you know, available now.

I come by your body kit.

And I was like, wow.

Yeah.

It was, it was like, you know, that was in magazines, you know,

and it was, it was embracing, you know, let's be honest, cheap cars.

You know, I remember seeing some, and Jim's going to laugh now,

I don't know what I'm about to say, but I remember seeing some sex spec

magners, like they were, I don't know if you remember him, Jim,

but like they were, they were, there was a lot of them.

Magnifest, like that, that chroma flare thing, even though that was,

actually that's it, that's a bit sex spec.

Absolutely.

And you know, friends of the show, Floyd and the Dean, you know,

that pink magna, that's a bit, you know, sex spec'd up.

It is, but it's got, it's got the performance to match that one.

But the, but the, you know, but the, but the idea, you know,

that, that, that crazy pain and stuff.

And yeah, it was, yeah.

I think, I think a part of the reason why the, the modification, you know,

scene went, went, especially for cars when I was, because, you know,

obviously, you know, it got expensive and there wasn't many cars to do it to,

but also like the police presence and stuff about, about modified cars,

like, well, if we can't do cars, we'll do four wheel drives, you know,

and four wheel drives and kind of, yeah, there we go.

Hot four is input special.

That, that's exactly what I'm talking about.

So, you know, it's,

I'll see if they've got the body kit stuff in here.

Like, I, Scotty, I'm going to find it.

I'm going to put it on, I'm going to send it to you guys.

Cause it was, it, it, I, yeah.

There's a woman.

Yeah.

There she is.

So, you know, and it was just a, it was a funny era.

It was, it was a great era.

I'd, you know, take, take, take me back.

What was that, what was that David?

You're in her fifties now.

Yeah, she would be.

She's not getting on a cover for love nor money now.

Look at that.

It's like some sort of eighties doona.

Australia on it.

Look at that car.

Good God.

You can't, you can't talk, talk about this sort of nostalgia thing

and the modifications and the like,

talking about the market as well though.

So what was that David?

What was that?

So, I mean, totally at the, we're, we're splashing around in the

waiting pool a bit here, but at the whole other end of the market,

of course, there's a big research and stew with people that have got

far more money than we have, but singer.

Yeah.

You know, taking an old car and just completely rebuilding it.

There's a company in Richmond.

I don't know if you've heard of called Ziegler and Bailey and

they're doing complete.

They don't even call them rest or mods.

They call them to re-engineering basically and they take G body

Porsches, 70s and 80s G series cars and put a 4.4 letter engine in

them and they're completely bespoke, three and a half thousand

individual components, different new components.

They're available in left hand, left hand drive or right hand drive

and they're $1 million.

Jeez.

And that's all happening in Richmond.

And even like, you know, John to doing Land Rover's and things

that electric motors in them.

Yep.

So if you've got that whole thing, but as I said, we're, we're,

but yeah, in the toddler's pool, but the toddler's pool is fine.

The water's fine.

Come on in.

Like those are big money cars.

Like they're like, yeah, there's three million or two and three

depending on.

And don't get me wrong, they're lovely and they're beautiful

and they're, they're well done.

But like that price is insane.

But secondly, you know, it doesn't make you smile like it does

when you see like a kind of like a car from the, the Sexpecury.

Like it's, you know, it used to say like, okay, this is funny.

This is, this is fun.

This is, you know, it gives you.

It's cheap fun.

Yeah.

Correct.

Um, yeah.

I don't know.

And I guess that's why, that's why all of us in the show love cheap

cars and things like that.

Because, you know, it's, it's that sense of, you know, fun.

Yeah.

It is, it is that sense of fun.

And, and bang for back unbeatable.

Oh, absolutely.

I know your, your, your bad CRX is, is haunts you in your dreams,

David Prince, but the, you know, at the end of the day, it's,

it's still, you know, you still remember it, don't you?

You don't remember that, that, that, that three million dollar

single that you saw the other, you, you remember, you remember

bad CRX.

Right.

But there we go.

That's, that's what I'm talking about.

There it is.

Completely true.

Carmate.com.

And they've got like body kits for all the cars as even for holding

Commodores and everything on the hit.

Even for old Commodores.

Yeah.

Body kits for Commodores.

You know what?

As much as it's not as much as the bad CRX bliss, bliss itself.

Well, isn't to my taste.

I do appreciate the enthusiasm, you know, like they've, they've gone.

That's something they love to have done that.

You know, someone clearly loved it.

That's right.

Correct.

And, and they've, they've, they've done what they wanted to their car.

So, and aren't cars should, they should be all about individualism

anyway.

And how you express yourself.

Absolutely not.

It came perfect from factory.

As close to factory as possible.

Jim, where do you wait on, on this, on this discussion?

He looks so bored.

I'm not bored.

I was just, I was thinking I was finding the conversation interesting

and didn't think I had much to add.

I think because I grew up near Phillip Island and stuff as a circuit,

I used to find them annoying because I just knew that they were all about

show and no go.

And I think they used to irritate me, but I think as we've touched on though,

it provides a means of people to be able to customize a car in a way

that suits them to sort of have a physical representation of what

appeals to them, what they find interesting, what sort of represents

them really, really well.

And also at the moment too is how so many elements of one's lives,

you know, are becoming more and more restricted or you've got to be more

careful about what you're doing, what you say.

I think that maybe part of the appeal is that people can have something

that is an accessible bastion of sort of being able to express themselves

as they want to without sort of feeling overly controlled about it.

I do think probably it faded out a bit like as was discussed before,

but also all the currents complain about the noise.

I think far cans are a big part of it at 1.2, at least near me.

They were anyway.

So I think that's probably part of the reason why it sort of faded away

and then it probably was replaced with the, it must be completely bone stock

sort of group, I think, at least around here.

But yeah, that's sort of my take on it.

Yeah, yeah.

And I mean, I came from, you can always have island stickers on the back window

to that order.

Don't worry.

I pretty much want to run around and just tear them off like a car.

But hey, I did see a reel about that too.

And it's about bang on.

Anyway, yeah, we won't go there.

Did you guys see?

I think I'll find out more soon as you guys.

Ah, there we go.

That's Street Machine.

That's 1994, this issue.

Street Machine.

There you go.

1992 issue as well.

That's brilliant.

I love that.

$5.40.

Geez.

They weren't cheap back then.

It's forgot.

Yeah.

There's a guy.

He's got a character.

This guy plays a character called The Big Vincennes.

And he does a lot of videos.

And there's one where he's like, you know, he's talking to other VL turbo

owners, like VL Commodore owners.

And he's like, oh, yeah.

Well, I love your VL.

Yeah, man.

You know, is it a Rajab?

Yeah, like Rajab Racing.

He's like, yeah, it's a Rajab.

He's like, where are you from?

He's like, he was like born in Reza, raised in Tomo.

That's one of the funniest things I've ever said.

It just reminds you of that era, the way they were dressed,

the way they looked.

I'll send it to you guys.

You'll have a laugh.

But yeah, born in Reza, raised in Tomo.

That defines the sex spec era for me.

Anyway, moving on to tonight's quiz, gentlemen, the car quiz.

You know the rules, 10 questions plus the bonus questions.

The winner's list, guess who's winning?

It is David on two.

Everybody else yet to score overall.

So, so Anthony, Jim, Edward, Scotty, and David Prince are

battling out for tonight's grand award of bragging rights.

And also to be put to be added to the winners list for the

end of year's big prize of a HSP or a pub meal, depending on

what you and what you prefer.

So are you ready, gentlemen?

Yep.

Yes.

10 questions plus the bonus questions.

Question number one, which chocolate company has made an F1

car styled as chocolate for sale in Australian supermarkets?

Anthony.

Jim got in there first.

Cadbury.

Incorrect.

It wasn't Cadbury.

Anthony was next, I heard.

It was going to be Cadbury.

You always think that one there.

Screw it.

I'm going to go with Lint or whatever it is.

Lint is incorrect.

Edward was next.

Nestle.

Actually, I want to say who makes this.

Colin Shenanigans and Alan's not here.

Where is Alan?

Okay.

I'll give you, I'll give you a point of five, Ed.

Nestle is the company that owns the chocolate.

That's one point.

Good thing.

That's that's point five.

Thanks.

If you can give me the other, I'll tell you, I'll give you

another chance for the other point of five.

If you can name the actual, the actual chocolate that it's

based on.

I don't think of any Nestle chocolates.

That's a pretty famous one that everybody knows.

Mars.

No.

No, it was like a crunch or something, a picnic or something.

Incorrect.

Scotty and David.

Chocolate.

You don't need chocolate, David.

Not a lot, no.

Okay.

I've learned something new about you today.

Sorry.

What's wrong with you?

You eat it?

No.

Is it good?

Is it Kit Kat?

It is Kit Kat, Scotty.

Well done.

So Scotty, other point five.

It's Kit Kat.

And I had one the other day.

It was delicious.

And now there was like an add.

There was an ad about it recently.

They've just announced it in a formula one, like actually sponsored

by the formula one, like this formula one logo.

And it's like, I think it's a genuine product.

Is it shaped like?

Yep.

It's shaped like a formula one.

Yeah.

Yep.

The chocolate is, it's really cool.

Question number two, what celebration will headline the

2026 Melbourne Motor Show this year?

Several.

The main one that they're advertising.

What's the main one that they're advertising?

Like a brand or a theme.

It's celebration.

It's a celebration.

Scott.

It's Hot Wheels.

It isn't Hot Wheels.

I wish it was.

I saw it.

It's one of the things.

Hot Wheels and they got big Hot Wheels stuff.

Yes.

But it's not the one big one that they're promoting all over

there.

I mean, it is, but whatever.

David.

I love your conviction.

David.

Driving into the future.

It is not.

Anthony.

Yeah.

I'm going to go with something going back to a little bit of the

sex spec here and that sort of topic of things where things first

started and going to go something like fast and furious.

It is the fast and furious 25th anniversary.

That's what they're celebrating.

I mean, they're running out of ideas if that's the case.

Yeah.

That's pretty desperate.

Yeah.

It's very desperate.

Question number three, which car company has officially sold its

last new like this is brand new petrol powered car in Australia?

Happened earlier this week or late last week.

If it's their last official new petrol car they've sold in

Australia is the last one.

Jim.

Is it Jaguar?

It is Jaguar Jim.

Well done.

They're going pure EV.

They are.

Well, they're going back to diesels.

I'll give you the, I'll give you a pointed with bunting because that was

the bonus question.

Oh, so they have so much.

They are re birthing as a complete electric car brand.

Bonus, bonus question.

Yes.

Good luck to Jaguar.

I mean, they've finally come to the realization that their cars are

unreliable.

So let's, let's, yeah, when they went their full rebrand and they,

and they, yeah, there's been a bit of a backlash.

Yeah.

It went very well.

Went very well.

They're, you know, it's a, yeah, it's a shame for such,

for such an important brand in history.

They're struggling.

Bonus, bonus question.

What is the estimated starting cost of Jaguar's new electric model in the

future that they're about to rebrand with estimating starting cost of their

EVs?

Oh, I'll give it closest to.

I'll start off 105.

105 says Scotty.

117.

117 says Edward.

They are wondering whether they're going to go to the two extremes of trying

to embrace and be like the way you would expect Jag to be,

or whether they're going to go the same path as MG.

It's going to be one of the two.

I'm going to go the complete opposite and I'm going to say 65.

65.

Oh, I'll go 187.

187 says, Jesus, you talking to Anthony, we've got a 187 in a,

so 187.

So we've got left Jim.

Jim Bolo.

Scotty said, but I was thinking too, so I'll say 98.

Okay.

Are you guys sitting down for this?

They're estimating their cars to start at $300,000.

This is the last time that Jag gets rebranded and the end of Jag.

The end of Jag.

They're estimating, they are starting.

They're starting costs in Australia.

It's been, you know, it's been kind of hushed up, but they're estimating starting costs

for their electric car future in Australia is $300,000.

You get the point there.

Score check.

Jim, David, Anthony on one, Scotty.5 leading on a 1.5 currently.

Still anybody's game?

Question number four, going back to the 80s in Australia,

to free a production in, for the XF Falcon in Broad Meadows,

what model that they were building in the Broad Meadows plant was,

was asked to, was sent back to Japan to be built?

David.

So in the 80s.

Oh, I think I've carbosh myself.

I was going to say the laser.

Ed.

Laser's incorrect.

Ed.

Good thanks for Telstar.

Well, Telstar is absolutely correct.

Well done.

So they, they, because the XF was the biggest selling Falcon,

they stopped selling it and they imported them from Japan,

probably for the best, I think, at the time.

So, yeah.

So that's why the Telstar, because the Telstar was made in Broad Meadows.

Oh, yeah.

Okay.

And the Swoopy Telstar, the Swoopy one, which was the same,

basically the same.

No, but even, even the, the, the sleek late 80s one was imported.

That was imported.

Definitely imported.

Yeah.

The four was sedans were all built locally, I think, weren't they?

Uh, the early one, no, the early ones were, but they're the later ones.

So like any, from when they went to hit, when they hit.

87 on they were, they were full imports.

Before that they were here.

Sticking with the Telstar for question five,

the sedan model was discontinued in Australia for what reason?

So they stopped bringing the sedan model in.

Scott.

Is it because, I mean, they're selling the XF.

So it was outselling it anyway.

Incorrect.

Good guess though, but incorrect.

David, was it sales because it was poor sales?

Incorrect.

It sold, it sold well, but that's, that is incorrect.

So we got Edward, Jim and Mr.

Turbotary to answer.

I really don't know.

I mean, it's 626 sedan and they sold that.

No, I know.

I know now.

It's bloody hell.

Oops.

David.

David never swears.

I know.

It's not technically swearing.

I need to be wrong.

No idea, guys.

Can't you see up?

No.

Don't know.

Jim.

No.

Anthony.

No, I give it to David.

One guess.

One more guess.

Ed, because it couldn't compete with the Magna.

It was, I wish that would be the case.

David, look, oh, not for a point, but if you can give me the reason.

Was it due to the button car plan and they replaced it with the Ford

course here, which was a very much Pintara.

That's the bonus question.

I'll give you that.

David.

So that, the bonus question was, um, what did they use instead?

And that was due to the button car.

It would be like we said, but course here.

But the reason why it was too expensive to import.

Um, the money, the money didn't make sense.

So they're like, well, we could do it button plan cheaper.

Corsair.

The hatch kept going.

So they must.

The hatch kept going.

Yeah.

The hatch was very successful.

It was still a great, it was a great car.

They were there and they're a nicely finished car.

Those are my fan of those.

The V six in the hatch.

We certainly got it in the six to six.

But in the, yeah, in the, in the later ones, the more round ones we got them.

Yeah.

The more round ones there were V six and we got them as a four cylinder or V six.

Same engine that you got in the laser.

Actually might, might, might start to the FS engine.

But even the ones in the, at the eighties, like your, your mums,

66, like that, that era tell star that was, um, that was also imported.

Question.

Bird, who used to work at Ford during that time, hated them so much that internally

they despised the fact that they were using it in Tara.

And they always called them course hairs, not courses.

Yeah.

They're a terrible car.

They weren't a good thing.

The tell star on the other hand was a lovely thing.

Lovely.

Yeah.

They had the little oscillating vents and everything.

They were, they were, they were cool.

Question.

Number six.

Okay.

So it's, it's auto corrected to space, but it's the Suzuki swass.

Yes.

David.

Rebed Corolla.

And it is exactly what it is.

Well done.

Yeah.

It's quite, it's quite, it's, it's a Corolla.

It's just a quality.

Rebed Corolla.

That was the, that was the question.

Cheese.

I can't even get my questions in.

You guys are answering all the questions before I get, get done.

There's a, there's a Suzuki dealer just around the corner from their house.

There you go.

Question number seven.

How many generations of the Hyundai Kona have been released?

David.

We're onto the second generation.

That is absolutely correct.

David is on fire.

Somebody put him out, gentlemen.

Question number eight.

What car ad featured this following famous line?

You guys already flooded it, mate.

Flooded it, mate.

Ed.

Ford.

That's point five.

Can you give me the, can you give me the, the model that they used?

Falcon.

It's gotta be more specific.

It's gotta be a specific Falcon model.

Come on.

Ford Falcon.

That's a point.

No, it's not.

I'll give you a point.

Five.

It's, it's, I need, it's a car.

Seven five.

Scott.

Finish it.

Scott.

We take it forever.

Oh, like your car updates.

Don't.

It's a Ford.

Nice.

Point seven.

Five.

I'll give you a point.

Seven five.

And it's a Ford Falcon X.

No.

It's, it'll be when they went to injection or something.

Oh, okay.

Ford Falcon.

E.

B.

Incorrect.

Scotty was next.

That's XR8.

Incorrect.

Not XR8 either.

Oh, I see.

Jim.

Anthony and David Prince.

What is it, mate?

No idea.

It was a very good ad.

It's gorgeous for the sake of it, the old, mighty AU.

Not the, not the AU.

It was, it was soon after the AU, but it wasn't the AU.

FG.

Incorrect.

Jim.

No, don't know.

Don't know.

You got, you got two variants between that.

It was the BA, the BA RTV.

So, so I'll tell you the ad, you probably remember it.

The ad was that these two guys were on their motorbikes at like a,

like a motorbike, um, you know, dirt track and the guy couldn't get his motorbike

started and the other, and the other guy on the motorbikes was like,

Oh, you flooded it, mate.

So then suddenly he's like, Oh crap.

So then he looks at me and he's, and he's driven his RTV,

which has got grand clearance and stuff.

So he's like, all right, I'll show you.

So then he races him on the, on the dirt track and then the guy falls

in the water with his bike and he puts them in and he's like, flooded it,

mate.

So it's a great ad.

I can't, I can't believe you guys can't remember that ad.

That's, that's, that's an awesome one.

So no, so 0.75 to Edward for that one.

Thank you.

Noted.

Yes.

Noted.

All right.

The last questions are, um, the, uh, we've got two car brochure questions.

Okay.

Question number nine.

Since it's intro Australian introduction through the years of epic

Bathurst 1000 and endurance race battles, the blank engine blank has set

even high standards in sports car performance and design.

Today, the tradition continues with a sensationally sculpted new blank,

which slips zero to a hundred in around six seconds and delivers the

definitive post-modern sports car driving experience.

Blank driver Gary Walden.

This is the picture.

It's in there.

It's in the brochure and navigator Tony Jackson,

pictured airborne in the blank motorsport blank SP.

Oh, SP would lend itself to being Mazda.

That is correct.

I would say it's a Mazda RX seven.

You are absolutely correct.

Edward Bunting Mazda RX seven was a very good Bathurst Bathurst race car

to the RX seven.

Well done.

Edward Bunting gets, gets another point there.

Question number 10 for the last question of the evening, the shape of

things to come.

The blank blank has been shaped by the wind literally.

Ed.

It's fishy magna.

Incorrect.

Normally vehicle designs begin with the drawing board for the blank blank.

The designers began in the wind tunnel, allowing for airflow to dictate form.

Even the airflow under the vehicle was made as smooth as possible.

The result is a body shape inspired by the wind and a drag coefficient of

just 0.25.

David.

The Holden Calibra.

Not the Holden Calibra.

I think they did have a low drag coefficient, but I think it was 0.28.

I think.

And it's the day.

So we've got an undercover Calibra.

Calibra lover here.

This is the lowest of any mass produced car in the world.

But just as the body shape was developed millimeter by millimeter, so were the practical

aspects of the design.

The rounded front and low slung bonnet, the raked gracefully without

sacrificing interior headroom.

The front fenders are streamlined and wheel skirts added at the rear.

Even the wheels feature low turbulence dish type design aluminium wheels.

Outrageous.

How could you?

You've got to kick it yourself.

I know it is now.

The blank blank never before has such a radical change been met with so little resistance.

What car am I?

Don't say anything, you two, because I know you figured it out.

Oh, we're just saying.

Come on, Jim Barlow.

I don't know.

He's tapped out.

We've got Scotty or Anthony.

Can I give a hint?

Yes, I'll allow a hint.

I'm going to lose anyway.

Manual only, there's a hint.

Manual only, that is a big hint.

Jim, you're still in by the way.

Manual only.

I'll give you another hint.

Wasn't many brought to Australia as David alluded to.

I'll give you another hint, wheel spats.

I think I even mentioned that in the brochure.

If I was saying the second word of it in opposite language, I'd say out blind.

Yeah, I know what you mean.

Something out blind.

Two people on this show have been mentioned that own said vehicle.

That's true.

I know it is.

Who's the other one mentioned?

I know one of them.

Who's the other one?

I didn't give it away if I say the other one.

It's the newer version of this, of the specific vehicle.

But anyway.

Nothing, you're out.

Scotty, you're out.

Jim, just say it for the people.

Put them out of there.

The most thing at home, it's an insight.

It is the Honda Insight.

Well done.

Out blind.

The out blind.

Jesus Christ.

The out blind.

That makes sense.

That's the opposite.

It is.

Terrible.

0.25, what did you say?

I'll tell you what.

It's the lowest of any car in the world, 0.25.

Does that still stand?

I don't know if that still stands, but that was normal production cars.

That's from the brochure.

I sent that picture that came up on Australian Car Rats on Instagram.

That's where you got it from this week.

I sent it to a Christella from Restruct.

And you read it, David.

I read it.

I would have jumped in with the gloppy old Camilla Coupe.

Calibra.

Matt, can we just Google what is the CD of the whole Calibra?

It might be in the threes.

I think it's actually 0.3 something.

Well, you Google that.

Impressive car.

For that to be that, that's pretty good.

I'm setting up the scores.

Calibra is 0.26.

There you go.

0.26.

That's actually pretty good.

I thought it might have been 2.8.

I facilitated a comparison drive for drive this week.

Between a first gen insight and a current civic hybrid.

So that should be coming out on their socials very soon.

25 years of hybrid in Australia.

All right.

Cool.

All right.

So score check.

Jim on to Anthony on one.

Scotty 0.5.

David on four.

And the 0.75 came in handy because you needed it.

Edwin Bunting wins on 4.25.

Oh, wow.

It's going to be a thing from now on.

It's not unreasonable when I got Ford and I got Falcon.

It's 0.75.

Things like that.

I don't know when you get championship.

That'll go to David probably.

Well, you're the only one behind Edwin Bunting.

Don't get it.

Neil.

All right.

Score check on the overall tally.

David on two.

Ed on one.

Everyone else get the score.

So still anyone's game?

Anyone's game?

At the year it's left to go.

Big year ahead.

We're going to have our 600th episode this year actually,

which will be exciting.

I know.

Crazy.

So yes, to answer your question, that is very good.

The Calibre 0.2.

Must have been a very slippery car.

Yeah.

That was like quite a thing.

It doesn't look like it though.

No, it looks frumpy as hell.

In a hallway.

Yeah.

I kind of actually don't mind the way they look.

I think they're a cool looking thing.

They're a handsome coupé.

Yeah, they were.

Absolutely.

Where are they now?

Who's got a Calibre?

You know the engines for those, the four cylinders.

They were actually, they were made here.

They were built here.

Vichyman's Bend.

Yeah.

I'd like to see a real minty Calibre at cars and coffee.

Oh, that would win cars and coffee for me.

Like that.

That would, that would absolutely win.

Like cause they were all, they were all, they all went pink and faded.

99% of them were red.

So, you know, it'd be really cool to find a really nice original one.

I think it's some white.

They did white and they did black.

They had a white one new, I remember back in the day in the early 90s.

They would have been a nice thing.

They went, they went a cheap car.

No.

And by the end, they were four wheel drive turbo.

Turbo.

Yeah.

Correct.

You can get a V6 or you can get a four wheel drive turbo.

A Subaru SVX, you know, there's a bit of a pigeon pair.

Mmm.

That'd be, that'd be a cool era.

Like, you know, cars from that era, that would be, oh, yes.

Yes, please.

That in a, in a silica GT4.

Very, you know, that's what it was competing up against.

That'd be a really kind of going to compete against or trying to.

Yes.

Correct.

Not really succeeding.

No, it didn't succeed.

Oh, I mean, the GT4 wasn't a big salary there.

It was double the price of a normal silica.

So they weren't, they weren't exactly cheap.

Anyway, moving on to finish up the show, gentlemen, that's a podcast.

Let's do some plugs.

David's wisdom.

Okay.

This one might be more applicable to some people on the podcast than others.

I'm talking about myself.

You are never too old to set another goal or dream another dream.

Oh, like it.

That's, that's nice.

That's very nice.

Had a nightmare last night.

Scotty Doe finds a little bit of advice because of what I kind of experienced

today.

So live in the moment and enjoy it because things can change awfully fast.

Oh, okay.

Yeah.

Well, hopefully everything's okay, Scotty.

Yeah.

Well, it wasn't, wasn't me, but it was, let's just say I was talking to someone and the

topic came up of parents and things and within an hour and a half, they got a phone call

and their father had passed away.

Yeah.

Like it's just, and we're just talking about it.

Just, yeah, crazy.

Yeah.

It's a good piece of advice.

That's, that's, you know, yeah.

Edward's buy, swap and sell.

And you've got one car.

Lexus.

IS 250.

Lowest car in the country.

19,000 K and it is silver with the sunroof and it's a very nice car to drive.

I'm enjoying it.

Well, it's a beautiful thing.

Jim, Jim's car, car taking.

Yes.

So if you're wanting your vehicle's exercise because they're stuck up in the shed, not

getting moved, then probably send a message to the cartel page on Facebook and see if

they can organize something.

Absolutely.

100%.

People do dog walking, you know, in the same day and they actually going to earn quite

good money doing dog walking.

They great, great money.

Yeah.

So don't do this for free, Jim.

You need to charge for that.

Oh, absolutely.

He's charging.

He's, he's.

Well, I mean, I think the person can pay for the fuel.

That's right.

I'm a big girl.

I bought it.

Mr. Turbo Terry, anything you want to plug?

Stay in school.

Drugs are bad.

Okay.

No, look, yeah, pretty straightforward.

Most people out there just behave on the road.

Don't do silly things.

You know, you might think people aren't around and watching, but yeah, we lurk in the shadows

sometimes and other times clear his day.

And yeah, you come and done eventually.

I'd love you to pull me over one day, Turbo Terry.

Trust me, one day.

I would.

I would love to.

So far, I think I've only managed to pull over two different mates at different times

and the look on their face when, when they got out of the car and I'll get out of the

car was hilarious.

You guys would be great.

And you were going 20 Ks over.

That's loss of license.

It's a $5,000 fine.

I'd say.

Thanks.

I know where you are.

I always said to Anthony, I said, if you were to pull me over, I would just laugh and

it just proceed to drive.

I'd be like, this is, you're taking the piss right now.

Anthony, you're just driving to get through it.

Yeah.

That's a good chance.

I've got a question.

With all the miles that you do, how do you ever get speeding fines?

No, I haven't had a speeding fine yet.

Ever.

Like ever.

No.

That's remarkable given the amount of sheer kilometers that you do.

For confession though, I have had one for going through a red light, which was when

the Civic were ready to hose.

I was kind of panicking and didn't notice it was amber until I'd sort of gone through

and then it's sort of, as I was going through and then it went red.

So, which was entirely on me.

But apart from that, that's it.

I would have had me speeding fines.

At least, at least it was, you weren't my brother.

So when he was learning to drive a manual in my, in my old laser, my KH, we were, you

know, he was, he was doing well and we were driving through Greenville and, and turning

back onto Michelin Road, turning left and it's a bit of a hill and he, and he wasn't

really good with hill starts yet.

And the light was green and he's, and he's trying to, he's revving off his head.

He's like, he's not going anywhere.

And I turned behind and there was a car behind me.

I'm like, I was pointing at the learner plate and he was like, ah, no worries.

That's all good.

He then proceeded to, when the light went red, dumped the clutch and just, and it just

quite literally smoked up the front wheel as he went through the red light.

And, and I was like, oh God, we're going to die.

Cause the cars were coming the other way.

And I was like, what are you doing?

What are you doing?

It's like straight through.

So, so yes.

That's, uh, yeah.

I feel your pain, Jim.

Feel your pain.

I read in my license the other day for 10 years, they gave me another license.

As they should, David Prince.

I don't even know why you're, why you're.

I got a piece out for safe driving.

Cause I was about to say, I'm in the same boat as you there.

Oh, really?

25% off as well.

And so three or three years or 10 year option.

Yeah.

I did my, I did my one last September and I got a discount for safe driving.

If I did my for 10 years, it was, yeah, it was a decent, decent time off.

It was decent amount off.

I was like, I forgot that.

That bitch at Vic codes.

Yeah.

I need points back.

Oh, what were you saying?

I'm a little bit surprised given my sort of things.

I mean, my, my stuff gets written off in, in what I do, but I'm still surprised.

I haven't actually.

So how it goes is normally if anything happens, it goes to our boss to write it all off and

you know, your justification, whatever it is that, that's what happened.

But I've never had to do a, please explain that anything I've done so far with work,

except for when I was in the city at one point.

Okay.

But since being in this office, I've not had to do anything.

It just anything just disappears into the elite ether so far.

Hi, patrol.

What were you saying?

I was just going to say to four younger listeners to the show or people who may have relatives

on, on L plates.

If you get through that entire process, I think without having anything come up against you

when you go to pay for your license, the fee is waived.

Okay.

When you go, when you go from people to full license as well, the same thing you get a

significant discount to.

Yeah.

Still very rare for me to come across the people.

I just don't believe the ones that fuck up the most, but just say.

Cause I think when I went to go and get mine and they said, oh, there's no fee.

I was sort of like, sorry, did you push the wrong button?

I said, no, no, no.

Okay.

You should tell more people than they went.

Well, okay.

Jim, that's where you, that's where you go.

Yeah.

I'll take that and run before they change their minds.

Yeah.

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