Building Supercars From TEMU & Battling Legal Threats From Manufacturers - Chris Slix

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I've already started it, I'm in too deep now, it's going to get expensive, it's going to get scary

and I'm not going to see any of that money back for a long time.

I think it will be the best car in the world.

See, a trip to China was eye-opening.

There was some things there, I was like, that's awful, but then there was the flip side to it,

but even then when we went to the fake markets there, they were a bit hush-hush about everything,

they were like, oh yeah, you can't film, you can't do this.

How on earth are they getting away with it?

The GT2 CS sat on your drive, there are going to be any more TV builds.

They just keep getting better and better, so until the point where they don't get better,

I feel like that might be when they stop.

Did you think they were going to be as good and creative as they were when you went there?

Chris, every one of the last four to five builds that you've done,

especially the Timi ones, you've told me,

now I think this is the last one that I'm going to do from Timi,

but then another one just seems to crop up like the GT2 CS sat on your drive just out there.

So are there going to be any more Timi builds?

Do you more fuel to do them after your visit to China?

I can promise or confirm nothing.

This is going to be an absolutely excellent episode.

The thing is they just keep getting better and better,

so until the point where they don't get better,

I feel like that might be when they stop.

Does that make sense?

Did you think they were going to be as good and creative as they were when you went there?

What, when we went to China?

Yeah.

Okay, so yeah, a trip to China was eye-opening.

There was some things there, I was like, that's awful,

but then there was the flip side to it where this is like brilliant.

It's amazing.

Like you wouldn't have ever expected it to be this high quality.

So like the first car we went to see was the LaFerrari.

And I was trying to be as polite about it as possible,

but I'm sure you could see in the video which we did and hopefully the guys could at home,

but it was being built about fiberglass, rusty rebar, spanners.

It didn't work a car that was ever going to be a highly polished product,

but on the flip side of it, there was, you know,

companies were literally churning out their own thing, their own designs,

being super creative, which was kind of refreshing,

especially considering everything we looked at out there,

because everything was so copy, copy, copy, copy, copy, copy,

at the end to finally get to find somewhere that's got an original idea I thought was quite nice.

I think we have spent so much time talking at the pub,

talking on podcasts about what's the next build.

The question with car rebuilding is always, what's the next build?

Where'd you go from here?

If this come up crashed or this come up crashed?

But after a trip like that,

I was really fascinated when they showed the kind of Lamborghini concept car,

you know, the one they'd only made one of.

Does that now open a door to be like,

well, hang on a second, maybe I can build a car that has been made,

but has never been publicly sold.

From there, I don't know, I don't know.

If you understood the differences between what they were building

and what the real thing should be, it's a world apart.

So it would never be, it would never drive correctly.

It would never sound right.

I don't think it'd ever have the right feel and the rights.

I think it's hard to put your finger on, it'd never have that feeling.

Where with everything else I've done previously,

all those cars have had the right engine for what I'm trying to copy.

The rights, you know, body width for what it should be.

Where with that green Lamborghini you're on about,

it was, you know, the suspension arms were fake.

Everything about it was fake.

So it was just kind of, it was more,

if you did it really well, it would be a showpiece.

I'm sure it had a diesel engine as well.

Anyway, the engine wasn't particularly spectacular.

So it would be so far from what the original idea should have been

that I don't think it's actually something that I'd want to build.

But you're pretty good at finding the individual pieces.

You've even done a video on building a Pagani engine

from that Mercedes that you got.

When you went to China, were you always in the mindset

that you're just focusing on the engine for that build?

And when you came back, did it give you the thought

of I could actually maybe put this in something

that resembles a Pagani?

Maybe, yes, it's possible.

But I suppose you don't want to...

I don't know. I think that would be more fun for me

to plonk that into something a bit more lair-in-ridiculous

and make something a bit more track-focused.

Because the thing that you've got to take your hat off to

with companies like Pagani and Koenigsegg is

their fit and finish is impeccable.

Like the way they finish those cars is out of this world.

And I don't think I would ever be able to copy that

unless I had millions of pounds to put into a project.

So the only way to make it so it would look good

is to make it more race car.

So more function over form, roll cages, bucket seats.

I'd describe it like a standalone ECU screen

rather than a proper dashboard to really simplify it

and making it more Zonda R-esque.

So it is just stripped back, raw, basically no windows,

no air con, nothing but an engine, a screen that gives you

your revs in your gear and that's it.

That's the only way I can see that working.

So are you better off doing that in something

that looks like a Zonda or in something Kit Car?

I'm not really sure.

You mentioned fit and finish.

Can you give us an example of your builds,

of one that you're the happiest with fit and finish

and the least happy with fit and finish?

Yes.

The Porsche fit and finish is almost perfect.

We could put that next to your 3RS

and I feel like you'd be...

There's not really much difference.

And then on the flip side of it,

I think the GT, when we did that originally,

it was okay, but over time it sort of deteriorated a bit

so we had to revisit it and rework it

because the panel seemed to move around as an exterior thing.

But then on the interior,

I think the GLE is the biggest example of a bad job.

So with staple showing,

you've seen the inside of it, haven't you?

There's buttons that don't fit, broken bits, loose leather,

everything's a bit saggy, everything looks a bit useless.

And that just goes to show that it's not an easy thing

to achieve what these companies achieve,

even if you do go and throw loads of money at a good company to do it.

Good company.

And this also tests your mindset

because the YouTube channel and actually delivering a video,

a big one every couple of weeks,

even a Mark II one every other week,

is built on you've got to sit behind the computer,

you've got to edit that content,

you've got to be proud of what you've shot,

you've got to be late at night in the workshop

putting everything together.

You need to go into it with the right mindset.

I saw from a friend perspective with your Mercedes build,

the latest one, the interior, the GLE,

it did make you to test that car for a little bit, didn't it?

Oh, absolutely.

I looked at it after we put it all together

and I was like, this is rubbish.

Now we've got the car working.

I realise it's not rubbish,

it's just the interior jobs rubbish.

And it is soul destroying.

So you obviously spent all that money on the car,

all that time in the videos,

all that time rebuilding it,

getting the body kit on, wrapping it,

doing all this stuff, getting it complete,

and then you get, you know,

spending £12,500 on this interior.

Not a small amount of cash.

And then you get it back and it is as rough as it is

with bits hanging off

and that company blaming us for breaking stuff

and it is soul destroying.

Because that was supposed to be the cherry on the cake,

not the turd on top of it.

I think most people may be surprised to hear

that you actually spent £12,500 on that interior

because I think we live in a world where

your channel's got just such a huge amount of subscribers

and views per video and everything.

I think the audience expects everything

just to be a free beer or a shout out

or something like that.

But it's not.

Give us a roundup.

Let's take that car and crash in the chilli.

You've paid £12,500 with the interior.

What bits can you sort of get

and there's a mutual benefit and what bits can't?

So in terms of freebies,

well, the body kit was not,

should we do what's free or what's not free?

Better both.

Okay, so body kit we paid for.

Wrap was supplied but I fitted.

So that was free.

The wheels we paid for,

interior obviously we paid for.

Turbos were free.

Remap was free.

And everything else we paid for.

So it's only £52 on the bit.

Two things I can think of that we didn't pay for,

which is the turbos, the remapping.

That was it.

They basically paid for everything.

Which is hard because the videos then have to generate

that level of views to justify the cost of these builds.

But is it still doing that on a build-by-build basis now?

That's a really hard calculation to make

and I'd love to figure it out for myself,

but we still manage to somehow continue going.

So I haven't figured out the maths completely

and I think we have somewhere the videos

don't necessarily add up to the full,

like the revenue through the sponsors

and everything like that, add up to the full cost of the build.

But then we've still got the asset of the car at the end

is something I've got to remember.

So like the Bentley, for example, hasn't been a loved car

on the channel.

It's done okay, it's got us by,

but it's not been setting anyone alight.

It's not been sparking a passion at anyone.

So as far as I'm aware anyway.

So that one has not been a profitable build at the moment,

but we've still got the asset of the car at the end

so we can sell that and hopefully that means

that we've not lost out.

Of all those builds of recent,

was there something that you've bought like the Bentley

when it comes up on Copa or something like that?

Like the next day something else comes up,

you've spent all your cash in it, you're like,

Oh no.

It nearly happened, it did.

I think there was a,

when I was trying to buy that 911,

there was a consensus at the same time.

I was like, oh, maybe it's time for a Bentley.

No one's done one in a long time

since Matt did his in, you know, years ago.

I thought maybe it's something different.

Maybe it's a breath of fresh air.

Let's give it a whirl.

Let's try it out.

And I was kind of deciding between the 911 and that.

And then miraculously,

both of the cars disappeared off Copa anyway,

so I couldn't make my mind up.

But is there been one?

Yeah, I think there was a McLaren,

which I could have got for very cheap,

which I regret buying,

but I bought the GT4 just the week before.

So I was spent out then.

It does happen.

But I suppose that's the art,

and it's been able to get yourself in the position

where something like that does come up.

You can pull the trigger on it

and hold on to that project until you're ready,

which we're getting closer, but we're not there yet.

The Ferrari you sold,

the Porsche was the last car you raffled, the GT4?

Correct, yeah.

But then you've held on to as many cars as you can as well.

What is currently in the garage?

The garage contains, well,

what my garage or spread across the UK?

Spread across Leicestershire.

So, well, it's not even Leicestershire,

it's just across the UK.

So yeah, we've still got,

at home at the moment,

I've got the 911 and the E92M3,

the supercharged one.

At the unit, we've got the GLE,

the AMG GT, Mickey Souvre,

oh, I can say it now,

because the video will be out

by the time this one goes out.

Brand new M5, which we're building for my dad.

Then at the body shop,

we've got the Bentley and the McLaren.

We've got the, does the engine count as a car?

If it's going in one, then yes.

We've got the Pagani engine in Leicestershire somewhere.

That's, I'm sure I'm missing one.

There's one I can't tell you about,

so we've got 10.

That one's not in the UK.

So 10 complete vehicles

by the end of the year, potentially.

Maybe not the Pagani engine,

but it's still got a lot of hot water there.

At what point,

if you keep amassing car after car after car after car,

do you ever just sit and think about on the sofa,

open up a museum here?

Does that ever go through your mind?

I don't know if it's interesting enough for that.

It's very rare that all they're complete and working.

So they're not reliable cars most than anyway.

McLaren, definitely not.

You've seen how bad that's been.

It's had the whole shebang.

We've covered it before.

We don't need to go over it again,

because I might cry.

But yeah, I think it's very rare

that something's either not having work done

or it's in its complete form or whatever it is.

So I think the most,

if we were ever to do that,

I think the most we could ever put up

with the size of the collection at the moment,

if I wanted to use one of them,

it would be like three.

So the GT2 CS is finished.

You're moving on to the M5.

Yes.

Will that have anything to do with this China body kit

T-Move style of video that we're used to seeing?

Probably not.

The car's so new.

It was owned by someone for weeks before it was crashed.

Is that new?

So it paid 120 grand, drove it out of the dealership

and then pretty much drove to work in it a few times

and then ruined it.

Is that new?

So I don't think, firstly,

there is any body kits to turn into a Rolls-Royce.

Okay, I can see that.

But I don't think there is.

And also, the end goal for it is different.

I want it to be back to being a solid car.

It's so fresh out of the box.

We should be able to repair it

and it will be as it was, brand new car,

no wear and tear.

It should be solid.

We may make it a bit tricker,

but I'm not talking anything as extreme

as chopping off rear quarters

and trying to make it into something else.

So funny you said that though,

because that shows that your mindset

has shifted into just a new lane just a little bit,

because to even be like,

oh yeah, we can turn this BMW into a Rolls-Royce.

I don't think that's something

that you just said a year ago.

I don't know if it's possible.

Anything's possible.

I don't know, you've been to the right place

to see if it is or not.

But we could turn it into our own thing,

I suppose, if we really wanted to,

but it's not the end goal for it.

I think it's not a car that particularly,

like it excites me,

but I wouldn't be dying to own one.

The idea of that car is to try

and keep my dad out of buying an electric car

because he's dying to buy a Taycan.

And we can't allow that.

It's just not on really.

So, born with the financials of a,

not a Tesla, a Taycan are useless.

So they just fall out their arse

and no one wants to buy them.

So if you do buy one,

you're probably stuck with it.

Secondly, it's electric.

Thirdly, it's going to have battery issues,

I'm sure, at some point very soon,

because he's going to be buying

at the lower end of the market.

And I just don't want my dad

driving an electric car to be on this.

You feel like you're doing the world a good thing.

Yeah, absolutely.

I feel like it's,

with the M5,

it sort of makes sense for him

because it's more,

it's got more tech in it,

newer tech than the Taycan he'd be looking at buying.

Costs about the same to buy.

Okay, this one might be a bit crashed.

But also as well,

it's got enough room for his golf clubs.

He can do 40 miles on electric range if he chooses.

And he's got 700 horsepower

for when he fancies a rip.

I feel like that's a pretty good alternative

to a Taycan.

And by buying a Crash BMW

and rebuilding a Crash BMW 2,

a Crash BMW,

there's no legal challenges

or hot knowledge rock.

Which must be a little bit of a fresh air

because what must you have been thinking

when you went to China?

Take me through your mind.

So do you usually walk around thinking,

how on earth are they getting away with this?

Yeah, a little bit,

because it is very borderline.

And bear in mind, for me doing it,

I'm an individual.

So I'm just documenting

what I'm doing on my cars.

They're not cars I'm building for other people.

They're not,

it's not a thing I offer as a service.

So from that side of things,

I'm not making a profit

of building those cars

and selling to someone else.

But with China,

that's exactly what they're doing.

I'm sure that is exactly what

these companies would hate.

But they don't want to see,

if someone's messing around

with their own car,

I guess that's okay.

But if someone's messing around

with their car

and then selling it to someone else

for a profit,

that's where the problem is

when they're copying their work.

Does that make sense?

Yeah, we're on it.

So how, yeah,

I don't know how they do it.

I'm sure in China,

kind of copying is much more allowed.

But even then,

when we went to the fake markets there,

they were a bit hush-hush about everything.

They were like,

oh yeah, you can't film.

You can't do this.

You can't like,

you've got to come to this door.

They were kind of checking you.

They went through,

like took you through to these places.

So I was a bit,

there's obviously something

they're a bit,

being a bit cheeky with,

but it's hard to figure out

in China,

if they're allowed or not.

Do you know what I mean?

So yeah,

I'm not,

I can't figure out

whether it's,

do you get any like,

they feel protected by their country?

Like,

China just goes,

yeah, go for it guys.

because they're all about

industry making stuff.

A little bit,

because I think a lot of the

companies out there,

government-backed,

that's what's so alien about it.

So the government

invested in those companies,

maybe not the body kit companies,

I'm not sure,

but I know that

the Chinese government

invested in some of these companies,

so they're more successful.

So they can sell the products

more all over the world

and then China

in the long run gets

more of the world's money,

right?

So,

maybe they are more protected

by the government,

I'm not sure,

but I know here,

we're definitely not.

So I don't think

here it would work.

Could you figure out

why everything was so cheap?

Because they've got

a pretty good standard

of living across board

in China.

So the fastest growing

economies in the world,

yet you visited

the guy's house

that owned

that body kit company

and here

that would have been

like two,

three million quid,

no word of a lie.

And it was like 300 grand.

Is that because like,

they've just made

everything themselves there?

I think so.

I think they're not.

So,

one,

there's less red tape.

So I think they're less

caught up on health and safety

and HR departments

and all this sort of stuff

that we get lumbered with.

Second,

I think they've got so much

material there

because they've got so much land.

So they're going to have

loads of stone.

They're going to have loads of this

and have loads of that.

And also labor costs

are so cheap compared.

That's the one thing

that is cheap there.

have you been to China before?

No, okay.

So I went to South Korea,

but I don't know how similar it is.

I'm not sure either,

but for a taxi

in an electric car,

so a brand new BYD,

a luxury taxi

from the airport

to our hotel

was 50 minutes

and cost us about

eight quid.

Wow.

Yeah.

That is cheap.

And also the energy there

is cheap as well.

We were looking into

how much it cost

to fully charge an electric car

there.

It was about a pound.

So are they just everywhere?

Yeah.

You've got this thing

called Alipay there.

So it's like an app you have

instead of having a car

or anything like that.

You just run everything off that

so you can get a taxi.

You can pay for things in shops.

You can pay for your public transport.

You can see where you want to go to eat.

Like it's all on this one app.

It's pretty smart to be fair,

but it also that feels like,

I feel like everyone in the UK

had hate that

because then it's,

everything then becomes digitized.

So when base apps,

when currency becomes almost irrelevant,

I feel like that's where it's at.

And to go there

and use it,

it's like this is interest

and this is easy.

This is quite good.

But then you think about

would that work back here?

I don't think it would.

I don't think people

would be very happy about it either.

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Do you think you were quite

baffled by the fact

that they were

doing a lot of the designs

based off pictures?

That was impressive.

That was very impressive.

So that side of things,

you know,

that helps me out

knowing that I could go right.

I really like this kit you do,

but can you make this spoiler

look more like this car?

And they'd be able to do that.

I think that was interesting.

So if I was to plan that far ahead

and say,

yes, I want to build that car,

but I want to make it my own

and I want to do this and the other,

the fact that we could do that

was obviously fun,

but it adds time to everything.

And unfortunately,

the world of YouTube time

is not on anyone's side.

So you haven't got kind of

time to go and buy the car,

then decide the kit

you want to put on it,

then decide you want to make changes

to that kit,

then they've got to manufacture that

and then send it.

Like you'd probably be adding

six months on to the process of it.

So would that be something

that I'd have time to do?

I don't think it would.

So I feel like even though

it makes it possible,

we'd have to be very scheduled

and happy and comfortable

where I currently to be able

to think that far ahead.

So talking about workshops and tools,

the audience may have noticed

we've actually got one of these

on the desk in between us,

which I used in my GT3,

which I drove alongside the van

on the way up here,

because I actually had a warning

like pop on,

probably something to do

with my crazy exhaust.

And then this cleared it

straight away and I felt

a million bucks better.

But what is this

a little device on the desk?

I know that you use them

all the time.

OBD-11 is like the

ultimate kind of pocket sized

OBD reader.

So all you have to do

is stick it in your OBD2 port

and then using your phone

you can access all sorts of

things like live data,

fault codes, coding,

all those sorts of things.

Works best on BMWs,

Minis, van group cars,

Rolls Royce 2.0 to Lexus

and I think Ford in the USA.

But it does like

basic diagnostics for any car.

So is that the same

in mechanic terms

as those great big iPads

usually with rubber covers

that you're seeing

kind of in workshops,

people working on cars?

Does it do the same stuff?

So for all those brands

we mentioned,

it does kind of

all that and more

because it can do

dealership level coding.

But obviously basic diagonal

and the rest of the cars

available as well.

So anything with an OBD2 port.

So the things that you can't

do with those huge screens

that you pay thousands

of pounds for

is turn on certain features,

deactivate certain features.

So on your BMW

that you're going to be building.

Can't you switch on

some mental headlight feature

which is like yellow headlights

or stuff that would be

because don't BMW charge

optional extras for stuff now

that you can unlock

with one of those.

Probably, yeah.

And I think one that I'll

probably be doing that is

because on new cars

if you have a speed limit

fitted to anything

fitted after

or speed warning

or something on anything

after a certain year,

I'd imagine with that

you can probably turn it off.

Don't quote that.

Don't just claim that.

Not 100% sure,

but I'm pretty sure

you can turn off those sorts

of warnings.

Things like seat belts.

So when you've got,

you know, for me,

I keep, you know, laptops

and stuff on my passenger seat.

Sometimes it sets off

an annoying beep.

I can just turn that off.

All these sorts of things.

Super handy.

But then also

when it comes to maintaining

your car as well,

you can do like

oil service resets on the dash.

You can do brake fluid resets,

all these sorts of things

that you'd normally have

to go to the dealer for

and they charge

hundreds of pounds to do it.

And I think if you are like me

and you're not someone

that understands necessarily

anything to do with cars,

when a warning light comes on,

it could put more fear in me

than it necessarily would you.

So being able to just plug

something in easily

and find out what it actually is

and get rid of it.

So it's out of sight

out of mind sometimes.

Or if it's more persistent,

know that it is actually

something that I've got

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Well, take me into your mindset

because no one

would have seen those things

including myself

if I hadn't of watched

the video on it.

And everybody I'm sure

that's like a regular channel

viewer who's seen the video

and pop up and go,

okay, he's not building a car

but let's give it a go.

And it's absolutely flown

like a million views.

You obviously went away

with your friend for a week.

He was out there on business.

Tom, you both got to do stuff

and you thought, well,

I may as well maximize the time

and film all of this

and film the process.

Was that kind of your mindset

rather than I'm making

a one out of 10 million

view video?

That's always the aim.

You're always aiming

for a one out of 10.

One out of 10

if you're not fully understanding

the YouTube is,

is ranked,

sorry,

is that video

that you've just released

in relation to last 10 videos

you play on the same amount of time.

So say, for example,

in the first day

you get 300,000 views

and then in the last videos

it ranks it based on that.

And one out of 10 is good.

But you're always aiming for that

because one out of 10

means growth.

It means new audience.

It means all these things.

So it's fantastic.

So you're always trying to think

and new ideas to try

and achieve that basically.

That's the ultimate goal.

It was always a hope to do that

and I wouldn't have gone

to China unless I knew

there was something

I could have filmed there.

So it was always planned

to do that.

But I thought

it was always an exciting idea.

I thought it's a side

that no one really gets to see.

And yeah,

this seems to work.

So I can't complain about it.

The bit I'm comparing it to

is yes,

you always aim for one out of 10.

But you know,

if you make another video

on the Bentay,

it's likely not going to be

a one out of 10

because you need the initial buzz,

that initial excitement

about the actual build series.

Is that quite hard

or should you just lock into

the mindset of,

we've just got to finish this now.

We've just got to get through it.

Sometimes, yeah.

Sometimes it's like, right,

it's not the most popular car

but you owe it to everyone

who is watching that

and who is enjoying it

to finish it.

Because the last thing I want

to do is have a car

that's a 50 grand car anyway.

It's not rubbish.

It's still a Bentley.

It's still a nice car.

So I don't want to have that car

just sat outside,

gathering dust and never being used.

That needs to go back on the road

and it's very close.

So yeah,

there is an element

of that sometimes.

We just need to get it done

so we can forgive and forget

and move on.

The more you go along

your YouTube journey,

development of the channel,

growing in subscribers,

growing of the garage,

are you more affected

by the 10 out of 10s

and the one out of 10s now

compared to maybe our first podcast

two years ago

or less affected by them

in terms of like your mood?

I think it's probably the same,

honestly.

I thought I was all right with it

when we were releasing

the string of Bentley ones

and I was just like,

oh, it's okay.

It is what it is.

It's not going to be the end of us.

It's not the end of the world

but then I realized

I'd had a string of not great

and then we get a one out of 10.

I was like, oh,

I feel like a new man.

So maybe it does.

Maybe it does.

It still has you by the balls

in reality.

But hey, honestly,

it spins me around by having everything.

So yeah, I thought it didn't

for a bit when I was having a bad string

but then I realized how much better

I feel when things are going well.

When things are going well,

is that when you realize

what you do it for?

You finish this GT2 CS,

talk us through how that actually feels

coming from the first build

you ever did on the channel

with Nissan's

and getting into your first Aston.

That must have felt incredible at the time

and now there is a literal like

GT2 that looks as good

as the real thing.

Sound the drive.

Like how does it feel to drive those cars?

Do you ever take in like

it feels as good as it would

driving the real one?

I think you'll have to have a go later

and that is probably you've drove

the closest thing to that car.

You'll have to let me know how it is

because I've not driven a real 2 RS.

But to me,

that is how I'd imagine it to feel.

It feels to look at.

It looks incredible.

The fit and finish is almost as good

as the real thing.

It's faster than the real thing.

It handles really well

and handles really tight

and feels very race car.

Like to me,

that is the experience

I would have expected

getting a 2 RS.

So it feels like you've worked really hard,

bypassed the Porsche route

and then got something

maybe even slightly better

for cheaper and you've worked

your arse off to get it.

So it feels incredible.

Yeah.

When you've physically fitted the panels,

which I would never understand

because I could never do it

and put the wheels on

and tightened up the bolts

and done absolutely everything

and seeing the development of the car

go from completely crashed

to then how it is.

That's the bit that you say that

well, I might have driven

one of the real things you haven't.

You don't know what it feels like.

I do wonder whether it feels more special

to own a car like that

than it does just being able

to buy the actual thing.

Possibly.

Especially with a car like that though

because I mean,

the Porsche notorious for

they use a bit of this on that.

They use this on that

and the 2 RS I don't think is a particularly,

it's a very cool thing,

don't get me wrong.

But they're not

making groundbreaking technology with it.

They essentially took a GT3 RS

and put the Turbo S engine in it

and then just turned it up a tad.

So it's more mechanical,

which also means it's probably a little bit easier

to work on as a project.

Yeah, yeah.

It's like, it's

for me that car is,

it's all about feeling speed really

and then the look is a byproduct.

So how much faster than the Mercedes?

Do you think you're going to race

like all of your ultimate bills together?

The LT is pretty quick.

I mean, it literally

shoots flames or catches flames.

It'll be the quickest.

It'll be the quickest,

especially on a quarter mile.

Without a doubt.

I'm probably on track as well.

How much by I'm not sure.

Do you think you'll end up racing

all of them together?

I think it'll be fun too.

It's just logistically

getting them all to somewhere where I can.

It's that, isn't it?

You don't realise until you've got

the 10 vehicles that having,

do you think you have

at any point 10 run at the same time

all together?

Yeah, probably.

Probably.

How well and how long forward I know.

Without one catching fire

like the McLaren nearly did in Marbella.

All right.

Well, moving on.

The competitive side of you,

a bit like racing

all the cars against each other

and seeing which one does best.

Are you also trying to tick off

every one of the supercar brands in your head?

Like, okay, I've done a Ferrari.

I've done a Porsche.

I've done a Bentley.

I've done a McLaren.

Do you ultimately want to tick off

all the others?

Absolutely, yeah.

Absolutely.

I don't want to stop anywhere

in particular, you know,

but I'd like to just get

more and more crazy with it.

And I'm sure you want to know

kind of what the things

I've got in my head

that I think we could do.

And there's some crazy ideas

and not all of them are

necessarily brand related.

It's kind of just fun ideas.

I think could work.

So, like, I know there's a company in Russia

which makes a G-Wagen 6x6 kit.

So, 6x6.

Yeah, there's 6x6.

So, one dealing with Russia

at the moment is a controversial thing.

So, I don't want to be getting involved in any...

It's not my job to be a political man.

That's not my role.

So, I don't really want to get involved in that.

So, going and seeing the kit

is probably not the best idea,

which I think is fair.

But building one would be cool,

but it's very expensive and unfortunately

kind of end up with a useless car at the end.

The G-Wagen is super usable

all by four through dog in the back,

loads of boot space,

use it like a van,

but then you've got a V8.

It's fantastic.

But then as soon as you put the 6x6 kit on,

it's basically a massive pickup truck

with six wheels that you can't park anywhere.

And there's going to have

no fuel economy.

It's going to be the most useless thing ever,

and ultimately end up costing

north of £300,000.

Do you think...

Because it's also possible to take

like a Lotus,

which do get crashed as well.

And I've seen like the company Hennessey

in the US has made some pretty crazy things.

Like, I think their first Hennessey venom

was based on...

Based on the exesia.

Do you think that kind of thing's possible,

or do you think you then get back into the legal water

because it's more of a boutique brand?

They'll see everything going on?

Well, no, because there's...

there's nothing...

nothing stopping us from messing with a Lotus.

And it's something I've been considering

for the Bugani engine.

I was thinking of essentially

doing what they did,

chopping it in half,

lengthening it, widening it,

and then letting that accommodate the V12

and the gearbox.

It's just whether the proportions

then become a bit ludicrous

in the like rear end size.

We may be okay, we may not be,

but that is one of the options

that we've got for where that engine

eventually ends up.

Do you think you're so much more open

to the ideas of doing those things

because of how much more experience

you gained since you started doing that?

It definitely seems more possible,

yeah, definitely.

What do you notice in like day to day

in the workshop,

like you and Mickey may be doing

that takes you like, I don't know,

X amount of time now

that would have been like a week

back in the day or something?

There's not really anything job-wise.

Obviously having ramps

and all the right tools

really does speed things up,

but it's ultimately,

knowing something goes wrong,

is how quickly you can,

you know, get your head around that,

accept it,

realize there's no...

it's not gonna make any difference

whether you get annoyed

or upset about it or not,

and then solving the problem,

basically.

So that's all we're doing

all the time is problem-solving,

so when you come across a new problem

you can't get too upset about it

because you enter that world

when you buy these cars

and when you take on these projects.

So you've got to accept

that that is your role,

that's your job,

and yes, it may cost you more money

than you thought,

yes, it may end up making loads more work,

and you thought,

yes, it may end up delaying videos,

but sort of accept it,

shrug it off, deal with it,

and crack on, basically.

And I think that's the thing

that's changed the most

is my acceptance of things going badly.

When the GLA, though,

did push you to the edge

with how you felt about that interior,

as you said earlier,

and all the things,

would that be the build

out of all the ones you've done

on your channel

that was the closest

to not being completed?

Have you ever got that way

with a car?

No, I mean,

because it was very close anyway

at that point.

It was all bolted back together

with doors, structural repairs,

everything from the start

of that video

when we went to do that interior

was, you know, almost in place.

It was just like a windscreen.

I needed a windscreen,

I think, and a fuel tank,

and a couple of other bits.

And it was good to go.

So it was,

that was more a delay in parts

rather than a delay in,

because it was so new,

or relatively new,

they still make that car.

So the factory ends up

stealing their own parts

to make the ones on the production line

and then put them on backorder

so you can't buy them,

which is fantastic.

What's one of the builds

that you really wish

you wouldn't have had to have sold?

Probably

either the Alpha,

I really miss that car,

or the Ferrari.

So the Ferrari.

No, the thing is,

there's something about,

I assume,

I really like my mid-engine cars,

you know I do,

but the saloon stuff is really,

I still think is really special,

because it's so much more usable.

You can drive that to work

every single day

and it won't bat an eyelid,

but then it's still lairy,

it's still fun,

and it's cheap enough

where you're not so worried

about wrapping it around a tree.

So you can have

a little bit more fun

and not think,

if I smash this wheel

it's going to cost me

a gazillion pounds.

I think that's where

I'm starting to see

a little bit more fun

and excitement as well.

So it's a toss-up between the two,

both Italian cars,

both kind of have the similarities

as well to be fair,

but yeah,

quite like both of those.

And what's been the least favourite

car that you've rebuilt

that you were probably expecting

a bit more from?

The RS3,

I've said that a zillion times as well,

it's like,

it's just meh.

There's nothing inside.

Which surprises me that someone like you,

because you've always been

about German performance cars.

Really, that is what

runs through your veins.

Yet you're choosing

an Italian saloon

over the German saloon.

It's not what I'd necessarily expect.

I think because

the F chassis has,

it's,

sorry, the F chassis,

which is the BMWs of the

Equal Time to the Alfa,

I'm talking about.

The sound of them is so bad.

They drive brilliantly,

but the sound is awful.

And the Alfa just has

a little bit more flair

and excitement.

And it kind of gives you that like,

oh, it's sort of got

supercar bits in it.

That's how it feels.

But then it's still usable

and still feels sporty

and all that sort of stuff.

So I think that's why I like that car.

And it sounds a little bit better.

Now, not only

are you having to do

all the work on these cars as well.

You're also having to do

all of the editing as well, right?

Talk me through

who currently works on the channel.

Is it literally you

and Mickey grinding out

everything that you say?

Yeah.

So as me and Mickey,

obviously,

doing everything that you guys

can see on the videos.

And then Vinny,

who works funny enough,

I've never met this guy,

but he's a friend of Jack McNeil's.

So I can trust him.

But he works,

he's down south somewhere

and he works on the second channel

edits.

He deals with posts on Facebook,

on some of the things.

But he does all that side of stuff

and is sort of,

he's nipping up,

working more and more and more bits.

So that's kind of taken

a bit of pressure off.

But yeah,

everything that you see

on the main channel

in regards to stuff

being filmed as well

is me and Mickey

and then sometimes

lives on the camera.

Well, I know you don't mind it

because it's what you always

dreamed of doing.

It's what you love doing.

We're not looking at like

talking about this amount

of work in like a negative way

because I know you're loving

doing it.

But just give the audience

an idea of what

a genuine week looks like.

But Monday to Monday.

Yeah.

Okay, yeah.

So get up, coffee,

drive half hour to work,

have another coffee,

get on with work.

And yeah,

so it's working all day

trying to solve problems,

fix cars,

film,

deal with the back of house

stuff.

So the accounts of this,

come home,

probably get back about

6.37 on average

and then it's working

until about 11-ish

editing every night.

And that's a pretty

much a typical day.

Yeah.

To do one main video

every two weeks

and one more two-video

every week.

Probably.

Did you ever expect it

to be so much

when you started doing it?

I thought it would be

the complete opposite.

Then really?

Didn't you?

No.

That's a good question.

But I think maybe

I came into it a little bit

sooner than what you did.

I didn't realize

it would be as hard

as what it is.

So when I thought,

when I was detailed,

I thought,

if I can get this YouTube

thing to take off,

then I'll probably

only work like 30 hours a week

and I'll have time to get

into the gym more

and do things which I enjoy

more.

Get into golf a bit,

do this, do that.

I have time to do

none of that stuff.

So I was kind of

expecting it to go one way.

But also as well,

you've got to remember

the standard of the videos

that are being put out

compared to three,

four years ago.

It's so different.

There's worlds and worlds

apart in it.

So before we used to

make a video on

fitting wheels,

that was your video.

There's your week's work

done.

Then you can share that

another one for the next week

and another one for the next

week by doing

physically not a lot of work.

Where now,

buy the car,

rebuild the car

and take it on a road trip

in one video.

So it's not

like, it's not quite

the same thing anymore,

is it?

Where do you think

that ends?

Is there like a ceiling?

I think that is

probably the ceiling

unless maybe you're doing

two cars at the same time

and doing that.

But there's no,

it's always the next

and the next and the next.

And we always wonder,

there's obviously

bigatties everywhere

on the internet

and your videos too,

like the one that you

saw in China.

And what was always said

while the bigatties

at the top,

like where do you go from there?

What do you think the answer

is to that in this world?

Because YouTube has

ever changed.

And is it something that

you actively think about?

Well, in terms of like

car, you know,

traditional car rebuilders

like mats,

like saving salvage

like the others is,

I think the limit

is what you can physically buy.

So it's,

no matter how much money

you've got,

if it's not for sale,

you can't buy it, right?

So if someone does go

and crash

Lewis Hamilton's Zonda

again,

that car probably won't come

up for sale.

So that is your ceiling.

You can't really go above

that, I think.

Or you're not going to go

and get a 250 GTO

because once it gets

crashed, it's going to get

repaired on the hush and then

put back into someone's

private collection.

So do you think people

will start watching less

once all the cars are ticked

off?

Or do you think that

it will continue to grow

and people will be more than

happy with the alfromares

that get crashed?

I think there's just

a market for all of it,

isn't there?

I think some people

want to watch the ultimate,

the next thing,

the biggest thing,

then some people want to

watch the more traditional

cars being repaired

so they can transfer that

to their own car at home.

And I think there's

something for everything,

but I suppose the point

I was making before

is with what I'm doing,

the ceiling is kind of

wherever you build it.

It's funny,

because you mentioned

the word traditional

in there,

traditional car rebuilders

and probably referring

to Dean, Matt and Freddie.

Yeah, the first three

that we can kind of remember.

Freddie is sort of

escaping that anyway

because he's going very

custom with his P1,

which I'm quite excited to see.

Yeah, no, great.

Very exciting.

But it's quite funny

because I think if someone

were to,

which many people are

across the country

in America,

everywhere,

start their journey now,

they'd look at you

probably as one of those

traditional lot as well,

because there's just been

so much time

that has passed between

when you started

and now now,

really,

in the grand scheme of things.

Do you think there is

enough room

for more people to join

or do you just think

it's almost a road

to failure

because it's just so hard

to get the views

when there's so many channels?

No, but sometimes

you've got to talk about reality,

like when something

is oversaturated

and there's too much

and you're competing

with people that are

literally rebuilding

an entire car in a video

or two videos, etc.

Is it possible

or is timing a big thing?

I think it definitely

makes it harder to

come up through,

you know,

to sift through the bottom,

you know,

make that start on YouTube.

I don't think it's impossible.

There's still people coming up.

There's, you know,

there's still people

who have started out doing it

and making a living off it

and being successful in doing it.

So even though I think

it makes it harder

because there's more people doing it,

it was still,

you know,

look at when I started doing it,

that was probably harder

than when Matt started doing it.

So that was still,

that market was growing.

So I think the only thing I can say

is the longer you leave it,

the harder it's going to get.

So you may as well start doing it sooner.

And do you encourage people

to get into it?

Why not?

I think it's more the merrier, isn't it?

I don't think there's

a downside to it.

If anything, it's...

I think the only downside,

sorry,

is the prices of cars

and co-part,

which really should be illegal.

How much has that changed?

It's creeping up.

I think it was already seeing

that boom in price

and over lockdown

and stuff like that

until when I started out doing it.

So I was on the end

of that boom

and so I haven't really seen them

be super cheap.

But it does seem to be never ending.

You see a car,

you're like,

all right,

my kind of rule is

you'll probably be able to buy

the car you want on co-part

in its crash condition

for half the value

of what it would be to buy it

in showroom condition.

But then you've got

a category S marker,

so the car is worth 25 to 30%,

maybe even 40% less

than the one in the showroom

when it's repaired.

It gives you such a little window

that it just doesn't make sense anymore,

especially with like

the Ferraris and stuff like that.

It's...

Mathematically,

I can't see how anyone

can make a living off it anymore,

especially trying to enjoy it

by dabbling in different cars

and doing a bit of this,

doing that,

doing the other,

unless you're just doing the same car,

week in, week out,

and you just buy

a ton of Ford fiestas,

all from co-part,

and you end up with a ton of spares

and you understand exactly

how they're put together

so you can turn them out quickly

and you can paint them yourself.

I can't see how you can

make money out of doing it.

Which is pretty direct

from the person

that literally does it

every other week, isn't it?

And that's the beat that's cracked up,

is the bit that you've lost

is the like bit of headroom

that was in them,

the little bit of mud.

What was the last car

you bought outside of co-part?

And how much stuff do you

actively get sent to you

during the week and stuff?

So I bought the M5,

wasn't through co-part,

the 911 wasn't through co-part.

The 911 I don't think

I got a bad deal on, actually,

because that was

such a low mileage car.

Yes, it had been categorised,

unfortunately,

but the original owner

actually bought it back

from co-part

before the auction ended.

Somehow, through the

stratosphere of what we do,

I managed to get in touch

with him after he bought it back

and got him to sell it to me,

and I think I paid 37 for it.

It sounds like a lot of money

for a crash Porsche,

but that car,

even though it's a Gen 1

of that shape,

would probably be 80 to 85 grand.

So I'm like,

well, I've already under

my 50% margin,

so it's got to be decent.

And I think,

even though it felt like

quite a bit for it at the time,

I really, really wanted that car.

I've been talking about it

since the GT.

It was so funny,

because it just seemed to be

that every 911

that came up on co-part

was either a GT2.

For some reason,

I don't know

if you'd ever talk about that.

There is a lot of GT3s crash.

They're just rear-wheel drive

and fun to rag it,

like the red line, didn't they?

So I'm guessing sometimes it bites.

Every week on co-part,

there's either a GT3 touring

or a normal GT3,

but it meant for you

that the ones that weren't getting crashed

were the four-wheel drive Turbo Ss.

They're probably just being driven

as dailies and a little bit calmer.

And they just never came up, did they?

We were waiting for what, two years

for the right Turbo or Turbo S

to come up,

and ultimately I had to settle

for the one which,

because the ideal car to do that with

would be a 991.2 Turbo S.

You already get ceramics.

You already get centre locks.

It's already face-lifted,

and I could not get that car

from anywhere cheap.

So I had to sell

for the older-shaped Turbo

and then do all of those things to it,

which made it a bit more expensive.

But I'm happy we finally managed

to get it ticked off

because it's been wanting to do for so long.

Somehow, if you're actually enjoying

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I know you did a, say, challenge,

a project at one point

which was rebuilding a subscriber's car

on the channel.

We didn't know how it was going to perform

and it was going to overperform

and to perform

and the people were going to love it,

get on with it.

Would you do that again?

Eeeeeeeeeee?

Never say never.

Yeah, I think I'd rather buy it

and then just give it to someone random.

Do you get that every week?

Like, do you want to repair

my granddad's car?

He's done this.

A little bit, yeah.

The problem is for me,

I would rather

give someone a car

at random from the subscriber list

than, you know,

take on the responsibility of,

like, this is my car.

You need to look after it.

If something happens to it,

it's then your fault.

Oh, you scuffed the, you know what I mean?

I'm not saying like it's a big deal

and it'll get sorted,

but I've been fixing someone else's car

and opens up a whole other kind of worm.

So I think it would be

easier and nicer for me to

buy a car with the intention

of just gifting it to someone.

Yeah, that does make sense.

You have to constantly be thinking about,

there's so many things

where the project isn't there.

There's where it's come from,

what are the rules

we're doing the project,

how much legal jeopardy

am I putting myself in?

By taking on this challenge,

what is the mechanical side,

and then there's the unknowns, isn't it?

Out of, like, those things,

the legal, mechanical unknown,

what are you most fearful of

on a project?

It depends on what the project is,

ultimately.

So if it's, say, the Bentley,

for example, the Boson footnote,

excuse me,

the thing I'm most fearful of

with that is the engine.

So when we had the nightmare with that,

I was like, oh, no, this is,

this is a worse scenario.

Because the engine to buy a second

hand is like 15 grand.

So if something happens to that,

a car which you thought

isn't too badly damaged,

that's going to be the biggest,

I can't fix that,

it just needs replacing.

So that's going to screw you over

financially,

and you're not going to recoup that

because refitting a standard engine

into a Bentley on a car

which already isn't doing amazingly well

is going to be painful.

Speaking of pain,

what is the hardest moment in the last year?

You have to name any names or brands

or anything,

but what has been the scariest

or toughest or hardest challenge

in the last year to get over mentally?

I think it's trusting people,

which is an interesting one, I think.

So I think we've,

you know what we're going to be

doing this year,

and annoyingly,

I can't really say too much at the moment,

but we've had to take a huge,

huge leap of faith, basically,

with a few different companies,

and probably the most expensive car

I've ever bought,

that they can essentially

orchestrate what we're trying to do.

So obviously there's so many parts

that are going into this project

that are coming up

that we've got to send one bit here,

one bit there,

one bit to somewhere else,

so we can get it done

in a decent timescale

and we're not waiting for years

for a car to be finished.

And learn to trust people

in doing that is never,

never easy.

Sometimes easiest to handle

these things yourself,

but again,

time is,

I need to use the time I've got right now

to put out videos right now,

so if I was doing that myself now,

there wouldn't be any videos going out,

because it's,

it's that much of a job

to try and do all,

all the maths I'm figuring out,

all the bits you need for the engine,

all the,

the 3D scans and this and that,

and it's just unmanageable.

No doubt the audience

will feel a slight sense of frustration

about hearing a build.

This is fair, hearing a build being teased,

that you can't talk about.

Do you want,

do you enjoy doing this teased bit

or are you like,

guys,

I just really want to tell you

what we're doing.

No, I don't,

I don't,

I'd rather put it out,

but I also don't want people to feel like

we made a huge mistake

with putting the Pagani engine,

Pagani engine video out too early.

100% yeah,

because people have been

waiting too long now for the result.

So it's been four months,

well,

three months,

sorry,

since we posted the original one

and we're hoping we get the next one out

within a month

and we've just been messed around

and messed around with parts

and so much to the point

where we're trying to find

different solutions now

to be able to get this out

at some point within the next month or two

because it seems like there's no light

at the end of the tunnel

with the original routes we were taking

and that's the thing I hate the most,

to put something out for people,

get them excited

and then let them down.

So just give people,

because I think that also

earns such a level of respect

and something that they obviously don't know

you should not allow to talk about it.

But roughly,

how many months

have you been working on a project

that you can't tell your audience about

in the background?

You're like,

okay, so how many months

have you been putting in as time?

How much time and visits and trips

and energy have you put into something

that you haven't even released a video on yet

and how unusual is that?

At least a year, isn't it?

You've been as involved in it as I have, really.

You've kind of seen every step of the process so far.

Well, I think I have the idea, but...

Yeah, yeah, whatever.

So, yeah, I think it's at least a year.

It's at least a year, isn't it?

And you've been out to other countries,

flown around Europe,

flown around the world,

drove around Europe as well, yeah,

and yeah,

multiple video calls to hear there

and everywhere, fixing stuff,

stripping stuff down and...

And where are you now

on the emotional success of

I think this is gonna smash it

and does your journey doing that?

There's the first video, you know,

24 hours later, you can have the result,

whether it was a good idea or not, on your phone.

Do you go, like, sick idea?

Uh-oh.

Sick idea?

Uh-oh.

Like, is that how it is?

It's definitely got its complications.

It's definitely got its complications

because I'm trying to do the nails

and the future stuff at the same time.

It's how much can I do the future stuff

and film it

if it's one in a different country

and two, I'm busy working on what I'm working on

at the moment.

But in my head, the thing that I see is,

like, so we're starting off here

and, no, sorry, let's say the graph's here

and goes this way in time.

And I think the amount of success

also depends on the amount of time.

So as time passes,

this one does this

because it becomes less and less extreme.

I'm keen to get it out as soon as I can,

but I don't want to put a video out

and then make everyone wait for six months.

It's like playing chess.

Yeah, you're trying to move your pieces around

and hope that your move pays off, basically.

And do you think that will be

the next build after your M5

that you're doing?

Or do you think you're going to have to find

a stopgap in between?

I don't know because we've been working on it

physically working on the car now since

maybe September

and there has not been

one new part going on yet.

There's been a lot of design,

but not one new piece has hit the car yet.

That must feel frustrating.

It's worrying. It's worrying.

The money is coming out of my account.

Is this a semi-similar

scenario to what happened with your interior

on the Mercedes?

Are you starting to get the same feelings

of like,

I get that feeling because I feel like

it's a little bit out of my control.

Imagine you kick a ball down a hill

and you're like, I want that ball.

That's your money.

There it goes.

I've already started it.

I'm in too deep now to be able to turn back.

It's going to get expensive.

It's going to get scary.

I'm not going to see any of that money

back for a long time.

But I think the end product

should be so worth it.

It's going to be the best thing

that's ever come out of this channel.

I think it'll be the best build

the internet has ever seen.

I think it'll be the best car

in the world.

Well, that is extremely exciting to look forward to,

but it relies

on looking after other people

and trusting other people.

I remember at one point you were even interested

in building a paint shop next to your

current unit work.

Only for use for ourselves.

This is my point.

Is the goal or is the challenge?

How much of the other work of that other spend

can you bring in house yourselves?

I think the reality I've seen

on the other side of that is

since saying that I've spent a lot more time

within a body shop that's really high quality,

the amount of work that takes

to achieve a standard that's that good

is hours and hours and hours.

Even though they churn them out for us fairly quickly

in terms of the work they do,

the amount of man hours and those bits

is crazy because obviously they've got a whole team

of people working on sanding this, polishing that,

painting that all at the same time

and to get them to that level is tough work.

For us to bring that in house,

I think I've realised that not only would I have to

invest hundreds of thousands of pounds in equipment,

but then I'm going to need to take a bunch of stuff.

I don't think it makes sense.

I think I'm better off sticking with this body shop

with guys at Chroma Concepts, absolute legends

and just getting the best standard of work

but only when I need it rather than spending

all that money to have all these people

and all this equipment, I don't think it makes sense.

Do you think there is a world in which in the future

and we talk about like the lifetime of channels

and where it could go and what it could go into?

At the minute like Restamont's

one of the biggest things out there,

you know, that we do a project with my agency, TWR.

We run all that website.

They've done the Chakir XJS

and they've created the Supercat,

which looks absolutely nuts in my opinion

and drives insane.

Your company's like Singer.

You've got companies now rebuilding Ferrari F355s

and on this JWW.

Does it ever Luto of Luto?

Something like that.

They're really cool and I love them.

Would you ever build ten of a CS or Chris Slick's

version of something for the audience?

Yeah, definitely.

But the problem is the money side of things,

like the problem with Restamont's

is because they're so unique and so individual

and so limited production,

they're inexpensive,

really expensive, like millions.

I look at the singers,

they're all like millions a pound plus, aren't they?

I think.

Yeah.

So it's like, unfortunately,

not everyone's got a million pounds

to go and throw at a car.

It's the real world and I'm in with those people as well.

So it's, the ideal for me would be able to,

yes, let's do it, but let's do it in a way

that makes it more attainable than,

you know, millions of pounds and all porches

and that sort of thing.

I think it's, there's definitely a hole somewhere.

There's a way to do it where it doesn't cost that much money,

but everyone's still happy at the end.

So they get a cool car.

We've made a little bit of money.

Everyone's happy and there's a,

you know, ten of these cars rocking around all over the world.

Does that matter to you a lot?

Because you always try to make everybody happy

and you're realizing the more people that you take on

and employ and work with,

it's just not happy,

it's not possible to keep all the people happy at once.

I think we've all seen that, haven't we?

You know, sometimes you end up being friends with two different people.

Those two people don't get along and it's, you see,

you employ two different people,

three different people, four different people.

We've all seen it.

There's arguments in workplaces.

People argue with each other.

That happens as it is, but you want to try.

So what's your relationship with Mickey like?

Me and Mickey are good.

Me and Mickey are really good.

There is times where he frustrates me

and there's times where I frustrate him.

It's like, it's almost like brothers in a way now.

You know what I mean?

It's like you sometimes have a little bit of a fight,

but at the end of it, you're all, you know, hugging and making up.

It's fine.

So you obviously care about your audience a great deal.

Yeah.

Riding to comments, taking on feedback,

things that have been said.

Sometimes like a comment can actually lead to something

being fixed on a car that you thought didn't think of that.

So...

Yeah, absolutely.

A trip to charity that you never thought you'd do.

Yeah.

Or a trip to charity that you never thought you'd do.

What was that going with?

That was that directly a result of something from the comments?

Sort of.

It was kind of like an idea.

It's like, you know, that's a really good idea.

I just don't think it's good.

And then it sort of just ended up happening.

It just kind of all fell into place.

I was like, yeah, that's...

Thank you.

Because everybody's...

Maybe I owe him some money.

From knowing Chris, he would not be the sort of person

that I think would go to like a country further than Europe

too easily because he can be fussy with food.

Is that fair to say?

That's not me.

Come on.

What do you mean?

Give me an example.

Well, I've been trying to get you to come to America for God knows how.

You're just not interested.

American food is not the one.

But I thought you'd maybe be...

India.

I would not...

Yeah, I wouldn't be eating food in India either.

But I just value my time.

I don't want to spend it sat on the toilet.

That's fair.

Yeah.

Did that not the case in China?

That was mint, yeah.

If you like bubbly fish and milk, then yeah, it's fantastic.

Didn't you eat turtle?

Yeah, eat turtle, yeah.

Scram the turtle.

Yeah.

Was that your idea or was that Tom's idea?

Basically, when you're sat in China, I think it's kind of like their thing is having dinner

is very sociable.

So you end up having a big round table and a big old lazy Susan in the middle of it

just spinning around with like basically just loads of different dishes on it.

So you just sort of tuck it in as this table spins around.

It's a great atmosphere because it's like, oh, try a bit of this, try a bit of that.

Oh, here comes a beer.

Everything's good.

And you don't really pay too much attention to what you're eating because it all just

looks like food.

But then when you pick one out, it's got a bit of tortoise showing it.

It's a bit like, well, we're in Rome.

What else was there?

Swim blooders.

That was an interesting one.

If there's anyone I was just thinking that I could see from the YouTube space in the

UK launching a beer brand, it would be you.

Oh, I don't know about that.

Looking at Whistling Deez was like, this is a great idea.

Look, I am partial to one, but let's not let it ruin our lives.

But obviously there'll still be parts of the audience listening that are like, well,

hang on a minute, you can't do this to us.

You can't tease this insane, crazy, mad project.

And not like, like, come on, mate, because they almost feel like you're their friend

watching every week.

You know, there's like that genuine sense of connection.

Why can't you?

Why is it so important to still wait for the first video and not just tease that?

Because if I give the idea, it ruins the surprise.

And without the surprise, it's not shocking.

And without it being shocking, I don't think it's got the same appeal anymore.

To be fair, I'd remember the lengths you went to to surprise Mickey with his car.

Yes.

Yeah, 100%.

And the surprise is everything.

Without a surprise, if you, the day you say if you walked into a car dealership one day

and bought a car, it's not very surprising.

If you got, took out your house blindfolded, put in the back of a car and then took to

a car dealership and the car was wrapped up in wrapping paper and then you got to unwrap

it and you had no idea what you'd get.

How much more of a surprise and how much more shocking and exciting is that?

I think that's the same thing I'm trying to create by keeping it a bit hush-hush.

Because if I leak the idea now, it's just going to ruin it.

Do you worry at all?

And maybe you don't.

There is no problem at all.

But going back to that, do you worry about the next thing, the next thing, the next thing?

Finishing a build like the one you're going to do will just make you go like, oh my God,

I literally can't believe we do that.

I can do any of that.

But then you start to worry about what the anything could be when you've reached the top

and like being like, oh, what do I do now?

I suppose your limitations, I was about to say your limitations is going to have four wheels,

but with a six by six, that's not the case, is it?

I mean, who knows?

Who knows what's going to be possible with the way technology is coming in and how fast

it is and being implemented.

I think it's the things that we didn't think were going to be possible.

20 years ago, we're going to start becoming possible.

So the reason I mentioned it is because many of the people listening will have job security

and like these things of do I go and be an entrepreneur and do my own thing and deal with

life in this way?

Or I've got this sense of security of like, I work for the public sector, I do this and

I've probably got 20 years of job security and thing.

For you guys, are you literally just looking at it on like a month by month or a sixth

month by month basis and going, yep, we're still good.

Yeah, but I'm still here.

It's still sort of working vaguely and we've got some things in the pipeline.

That's it.

I think that's the best way to live.

You can't focus too far on obviously I've said I've been planning ahead a lot, but if

you do spend too much time doing that, you ended up doing anything now.

So you've got to balance those two things.

I think you cannot get too bogged down.

Well, let's not get too bogged down in the rest of this conversation.

I think an hour with you is an absolute great chat.

Sure, that's enough for you.

Yeah.

Thank you, Chris.

Thank you so much for appearing on the podcast again and giving everyone an hour of your

time.

My pleasure.

Love you guys.

Love you.

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