C.R.E.A.M. #46 Spotting The Queen, Roasting Cars and Selling The 911? Ft. @stjarnagloss

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And the final car I'm going to sell is the TDC 9-11.

Whoa!

Yeah, I'm going to...

Whoa!

Yeah.

You know what?

You've ruined a child's dream.

You know what?

Sun's crying facts.

This is why you should bring that bully in.

I saw the Queen's Growler in Slough.

Hello, and welcome back to the Carl's Rule Everything Around Me podcast, joined by myself, Edwin.

Will to my left.

No Ben behind the camera, because instead we have special guest, Kav from Shana Gloss.

Hello, lovely people.

And also 46 episode.

We'll get into that.

But hey, it was like you said before we started.

It was written in the stars.

It was.

The beginning of every single podcast.

We answer the question whether cars rule or ruin everything around us.

Kav, what is it for you this week?

Rule.

Okay.

Rule everything.

Is it because of what's behind us?

Just because everything literally my whole world revolves around cars.

So it will always rule my life.

But does it ruin it this week?

No.

Yeah.

Because the M2 is fixed last week.

It definitely ruined my life.

So behind us is your M2.

We pulled it in for those visual viewers.

If you're not listening, you can see a rather large wing cropping out either side of

Gran Turismo 3, which we've got playing on the screen.

What is the little story on this car?

Because it's not stock M2 for those that can't see it.

It's not stock M2.

But I am so gutted that I didn't realize this was episode 46.

Because I should have brought the 46.

The F87M2 comp is my interpretation of carbon rules everything around me.

Because by the doors, everything that can be carbon is now carbon fiber.

And then just because it does so well on social media and lightweight,

whilst I'm not enough of a pilot to know the difference,

I do think there's a bit of value in taking as much weight out as you can.

Because the 46 is night and day difference between standard weight and what it is now.

And then the color, because if I can tell you make it,

I want a free RS, but I haven't got free RS money.

So what is painted is Vesuvius Gray, which is the 997.

Classic.

I believe none of 73 RS.2 launch color or press color.

Something like that.

I remember it being heavily photographed back in the day.

And also what's the plate for those of them?

So we're saving the manuals.

Yeah.

So it's Ono to DCT, which we've also got Ono to SMG.

And we own Ono to PDK as well for future.

Nice.

Yeah, look at the head.

Yeah, hopefully.

Wishful thinking.

We got Ono to Hawaira for, you know, when you get your Zonda or your F1.

Yeah.

I think they made all those gearbox things in a nice three digit format.

DSG, you get a couple in there.

Well, we did toy with if you get a 991 onwards three RS,

we might have to buy a YE 52 PDK.

Yes, the PDK.

Just in case.

The 997 is a rocketing in value.

William, for you this week.

Ruin.

Now I'm going to go with a ruin actually.

Well, they're so close to a rule.

So I got my McGann back the other day.

We got back from Monterey, did a week of work here,

and then I had a track day booked on the Saturday just been.

So, and I picked up my McGann from Beanie Sport,

which is 20 minutes from Bedford.

So I said to them, right, Carl's done.

I'll come to you and I'm going straight to the track day.

And they were a bit like, oh, okay.

It's quite a test.

I was like, yeah, but it's perfect.

Picked it up, drove it there and it was, it was great,

but I still have like a weird brakes issue,

which is not nice.

Also, I took my girlfriend.

I said, I convinced her.

I was like, please just come on a track day.

I just want to show you because she doesn't trust my driving

ever.

And I cannot understand why.

So I said, just come with me.

I'm not saying I'm a racing driver,

but I'll just see how it is.

She came out for the sighting laps and said, nah.

That's it.

That's enough for me.

And then obviously I came back here and I said, look,

we just come out for one lap, one proper lap.

But she'd heard me talking about the spongy brakes

and said, you said something about spongy brakes.

I'm not coming out.

So what was it?

You said the kick.

I told him about it.

Oh, there was a guy, he's either a listener of the podcast

or he watches TDC or both.

And he had a kick car with a Fireblade engine.

And we were sort of like quite similarly matched.

And then I came back in and I told him about it.

And he went, okay.

Yeah.

Okay.

So I'll stay out your way next time.

You with no brakes sailing through the infield.

I came up behind.

And to be fair, they weren't dangerous.

They just didn't feel very confidence inspiring.

I came up behind him and I just saw the indicator go on.

Great tactic.

Just mind games going up to everyone at the track.

They're going, I'd stay out of my way.

Have you seen that fluid under my car?

Great way to have a free track, free and clear track day

where no one misses with you.

But yeah, I would call it a ruin

because I thought I'd have it back, but it's not.

But soon, soon come again back.

I am a mix.

I actually saved some news.

I didn't even tell it.

I didn't even tell you or Ben.

It's not, I haven't bought another car, I promise.

It's actually the opposite of that.

I'm a rule because I got my E36.

I got a load of wheel bearing stuff that was keeping on the ramp.

And it is now, I've been driving around for the last few days

in the last bit of sunshine.

If you don't know, I have a 316i E36.

I didn't know that.

It's white powerhouse.

It's white slick top with white Compromotive 18s.

So it looks and it is slammed.

The rear arch just tucks to the edge of the wheel.

It's perfect.

It looks like a touring car.

It does however, still have a 316i manual.

So I've been driving around and I keep getting people like in

traffic, being like, oh, it's sick.

I had a C63 coming off alongside me the other day and be like,

yeah, let's go.

I was like, no, no, no.

Right.

Petrolites on 75 horsepower, mate.

But then I actually went out in it the other day to go

and do some filling bit.

And we got to a junction.

And I've put a an LSD wrist subframe in it.

So it's got all the gear that's just missing that inch

part.

I said to Ben, I wonder if it'll even spin a tire.

So I revved it to red line.

I let it bang off the limiter once or two times just to

make sure it was a red line.

Let off the clutch.

And it went, yeah, it didn't even try to spin away.

It just said, I'm just going to, I'm just going to mash

your clutch up, mate.

I didn't realize you came back and told me you said

70 horsepower.

I thought you were taking.

Yeah, that's like about round about what it is.

75 is what a standard 16 early 16 has.

That's just not good at all.

It's really bad.

I had the, um, I bought a donor car with the intention

of putting a B 58 in it and he 36 320 I auto.

And I thought surely this is the bison's car.

It was the orangey color.

It was new nose ones.

Yeah, yeah.

Like a burgundy because those people said to me,

you should buy it.

And I've got too many.

And I fell out of love with the idea because the

best bit about the 46 is the chassis.

The worst bit is the reliability.

The best bit about the M2 is the reliability,

but the worst bit is the numbness.

And I thought if I take the unreliability of an M of a 36,

pair it with the numbness of a modern image of a B 58,

I'm going to have the worst of both worlds.

Anyway, 320 I auto, big stamp on the middle pedal,

lunched it.

And I was like, surely this will go.

And it just.

Yeah.

All right.

That's a whole number 200 CC.

Is it a 318?

I think it was a 318.

So yeah, you've got no chance.

Yeah.

But the best part is I, and the reason I,

my ears perked is that I also own a 316 auto

grand mass spec.

It has the small, the little pepperpot wheels.

Actually, yeah.

They're the SE wheels, the black lower trims.

It is cloth interior.

It's a horrible car.

But it's the car.

I think I love the most of all the cars because it's the

only car that I get and I don't act like a prat.

Yeah.

I just drive it.

But my end goal with that car and I will not sell it

until I do it is to put B 58 in it with a ZF 8

speed auto, but make it look completely standard

from the outside.

Yeah.

There is, there is no, there is nothing to it at all.

That is, but that also brings me on to the thing.

I've decided I'm going to sell five cars.

Holy hell.

I've actually, and I've committed to this.

Who put you up to this?

Well.

Are the police at the door?

I've got no license anymore.

No.

So I, we, will I recently drove our dream cars?

Well, actually you drove your dream car two fold.

Twice in a week.

Gallardo.

I drove 550 Maranello.

Spensive week.

And then you drove a Mercedes Argo.

And I just, I started doing research because I'm,

I can't leave anything alone.

Right.

Will drove the Gallardo and went cool.

I could own one of these.

Just a standard Gallardo.

Yeah.

I drove the 550 and went, I could make something really cool

out of this.

Right.

If this had coils, or maybe if this had things,

or maybe if this had, I found out that they do an ITB kit

for, for a 550 Maranello Ferrari.

No one's ever done it before.

They make the kit, but no one's done it.

No customers.

But they do make the kit.

Genevieve do the kit.

Genevieve.

If you're listening, please, man.

But anyway, I realized I have 10 cars.

They're all shit.

None of them are good.

None of them are other than the M3,

which is all of my money, isn't that?

There's just too many projects for me to do,

to get to with the TDC.

In my head, I thought, I'm working on cars for a job.

I'll get through that in a couple of months.

It's a year and a bit later,

and I've chipped into maybe one.

So I'm going to sell five cars.

I'm going to sell the C55 AMG.

Also, please do not message me yet.

I will post on my Instagram.

I barely remember what day it is.

I'm not going to remember if you message me now.

Lowballing.

No, please do not do this.

Feed him up on price.

C55 AMG going.

Gone.

Daily gone.

Eight series black.

Going to sell that.

Not going to sell the LPs though.

Okay.

Keeping those.

850i.

I'm going to sell that.

Both eight series gone.

I'm going to sell the Evo.

Whoa.

I planned on doing 400 horsepower on that car.

I'll show it to you later.

It's just, I parked out in the paddock.

I always wanted Evo one.

And the journey of getting it back on the road is the thing

I think I'm most excited for.

I'd like to modify an Evo five or six one day.

I don't care as much about the one.

That's the sounds bad, but there's too many things.

And the final car I'm going to sell is the TDC 911.

Whoa.

Yeah.

I'm good.

Yeah.

Whoa.

Now, but here's the thing.

I have a theory about this, right?

I'm not going to sell it.

I'm going to give it away on a raffle.

Because if anybody was to spend, I'm going to get it going as well.

I'm going to get it working.

It's not going to be sold as it is.

I'm going to re-loom it, which have a loom.

It's been sitting up there for ages.

If I was, if you came to buy that car and you spent the

realistically what it's worth, seven or eight grand,

I'd be unhappy with it.

Yeah.

I'd be quite upset.

Yeah.

Whereas if someone wins it for 10p, fine.

And if it means even if, even if I don't, even if I don't

get as much money for it, I'd rather someone got that

car for 10p and went, ah, there's a bit of a laugh.

I'll turn it into a track car or I'll, you know,

I'll continue fiddling with it.

Bits and bobs.

But yeah.

And all of this will be filmed for the channels.

But yeah, I've just got too many things.

I know it's the dirty, dirty subject and I apologize.

Do those five cars add up?

No, nowhere near.

Okay.

This is, so this is the other thing.

The 550 as the will tell you, I've been scouring.

I want a shell.

I want a fire damaged one.

I want a crash damaged one because I will never without

financing myself into, you know, oblivion, oblivion, be able

to afford and look like a good 550.

What is a good 550?

So they start like 70.

Okay.

So there's a really, a really high miles, like an 80,000 mile

one, which for, for, for us, it's high on piston heads.

That's like 70 grand.

But even that, the idea of buying that, I would then be

too afraid to ever touch it.

If I, if I managed somehow to sell all my family members

and acquire 70,000 pounds, I'd buy it and then go, I don't

want to touch this.

Do you want to do the man math thing by one for 40, put 100

in it and they go, this is cheaper.

Exactly that.

But yeah, if there's, if that's, if anybody knows, are

they 550, I think I said this on the exact last podcast.

If you know a crashed one, you know, a fire damaged one.

If you know of one that maybe someone's stolen, maybe

you could see that for me or if you're rich or just get

a charitable donation, charitable donation.

You can write that stuff on tax.

But yeah, five feet and you're in a similar position

with the Mercer logo.

Yeah.

Mercer logo I would love, but I, I spoke to a, someone

who does super car sourcing.

I was out of interest.

Do you know anyone who has a 6.2 manual?

I don't care the condition as long as it has an engine

because I still like the big bit.

Tell me like what's going on.

And he said, I have a client who has a 30,000 mile

one, which is sort of middling mileage.

He just turned down 300,000 pounds.

That's approximately double or treble.

What I was expecting.

Do you know what Matt Armstrong?

Make sure your doors are locked.

Yeah.

See what you did prices.

Yeah.

We'll see.

Always you edfolian and those curated guys.

You know what you've done.

You really, you know what?

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You know what?

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So, I mean, I would love a Gallardo still.

Someone sent me a message and they have a Gallardo on bags

on, which is not my taste.

I looked at it.

I thought, you know what?

Brave is a Gallardo on bags with aftermarket wheels.

But we'll see.

But so we're following on from that.

One of the questions we have from you was what was

your first car and what was your all time dream car?

And then what car is next?

So first car was, and it was funny.

You mentioned it in your Monterey.

Not this one.

My first car was a Purgeo.

McLaren F1.

Sorry.

It was a T50.

That time machine.

No.

It was a Purgeo 106 XN 1 liter.

What color?

500 pounds.

It was post box red.

So red.

Lovely.

And the girl that owned it before me, her dad was a paint sprayer.

They had a full re-spray.

Oh, nice.

Really?

Honestly, it was spotless.

Paint were worse.

This was way before car cleaning or anything like that.

But God awful slow.

But I do still believe strongly that your first car

should be a proper dinger.

Yeah.

You'll probably mark every corner.

Now, older face.

It was a preface.

There we go.

I'll call both one up.

Just in case.

Four speed with a manual choke.

Color coded bumpers.

Oh, that's posh.

Honestly, the absolute fanny magnet.

Three bolt wheels.

The three lugs.

Crazy.

And 1500 quid worth of alpine in it.

Oh.

As every 17 year old should have.

Now, surely that was the thing that got you

that sold you on that car?

Or did you put that in?

I put it in.

Oh, okay.

Sorry.

And then quite a bad accident in it,

which wasn't my fault.

I've got to say, someone pulled out in front of me

and saw a 17 year old and went touch.

I've got away with this.

Luckily my insurance was quite good.

No, no.

You pulled out in front of him.

I bounced off him, then hit the bank,

put it on two wheels, fractured a rib.

Big whoopsy.

But anyone that says the 106 isn't a safe car

is talking utter bollocks because it

saved my life on that day.

But yeah, that went to the heaven.

And then after that was a Saxo VTR.

Oh, nice.

You asked, what's my dream car?

My dream car.

Really difficult to say one.

Of course.

And then dream car is probably,

and I'm not saying this because you've just said it,

but Mercy SV.

Because last true playboy super car

slash hypercar in my opinion.

Saw one, can't remember what age I was,

but we go to Harrods every year for my birthday

to get the new Harrods Bear,

which my godmother used to take me.

And there was one round the back

and the guy pulled up and he was just so cold.

And it just stuck.

He's in prison now, but yeah.

Probably.

Probably that was in South America.

He's hiding, but it was just such a cool experience.

And I've never driven one.

I've been close to one,

but just the coolest thing ever.

And that's not me saying I don't care for event doors

because that SVJ is horny.

That noise is bigger,

but I feel like the event door

was the start of the finance bros.

And it's not quite as cool.

You don't get through finance unless you can afford it.

So I'm not bad-mouthed in finance.

Because Joey and I have got,

Natalie's just got a new car on finance.

But I think it's so much cooler to go,

I'll transfer for that.

Because that's a statement to say.

It's just in the bank ready to go.

And then next car.

In the short term,

I probably would get the new G87M2.

Okay.

I like them.

Yeah.

I drove one on the weekend.

I've driven quite a few now,

but I drove CT Carbon's one.

And it's just a lovely, lovely thing.

Whereas this is starting to get a bit E46,

a bit crashy, a bit bouncy.

And I would like something that still

does well on social media,

but just a nicer place to sit.

Yeah.

And every time,

as you boys know only too well,

every time you go around with a car,

you just make it worse.

But going to work here.

And the M2 is starting to look a bit like that now.

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We just saw one of those M2s.

We just got some tyres

that we picked up down the road.

And there was the blue that they're all in.

They all seem to be in that light blue.

But it had every single M performance.

Even at the wing on the back,

which I've never seen,

like an Evo style wing.

Oh, the G-Series.

Yeah, a newer M2.

And literally the exhaust everything.

But next to the car

was a man possibly in his late 80s.

And we're like, no, surely not.

That was his car.

And we've heard him talking to the guy in the tyre shop.

He's like, yeah, you know, I can't get off of it.

Then he got 2,000 miles on it.

But he had the comfortable seats in it.

He had all the M performance stuff.

But then the comfy seats.

I was like, no, fair play.

Do you reckon his wife

had seen a little two series

and went, oh, I quite like them.

And he went,

I want the best one they do.

And he's come out with the M performance everything.

All the options.

Why is this two series cost 120 grand?

Why has it got CS written on them?

Don't worry about it.

Wow.

So you're a fellow man of taste and culture,

the Mercy Lago.

It's the car of all time.

We found out recently,

we went to Thruxton.

This was actually heartbreaking for me.

Only just recently driving Mercy Lago

had been waiting years to do that.

But we were at Thruxton,

which is obviously a track.

They do driving experiences,

that kind of thing there.

And when I was about 17,

I went to Thruxton

and did like an Aventador driving experience.

Drive at about 15 miles an hour probably

and was scared of it.

But I found out we spoke to them at Thruxton

because they used to have an SV as an experience car.

And it turns out pretty much like,

it would have been like six months

before I had my driving experience.

They retired that.

No.

And so we were talking to Ben,

who runs like kind of Thruxton,

the section of Thruxton that we speak to.

And he,

we were talking about lots of cars.

And the moment we said about the SV,

he went,

Oh God, that was incredible.

That was the best car we ever had.

I watched Will die.

Absolutely.

It was an experience car.

Yeah, yeah.

We used to use it all the time.

So it would have been,

I would have done it in that car.

Had I been born perhaps a year earlier.

So we need to be ringing up mum and dad

and saying, come on.

Come on.

You've ruined me chances to have been six months earlier.

I need 800,000 pounds.

Yeah.

I need compensation for this.

I'll take it in the form of an SV.

I'll take the normal one.

It's fine.

Now onto some other bits.

We've got written down.

Just got some questions for you.

Nothing too serious,

you were on the Raptor podcast recently

and you mentioned the Clio 182

and a story related to said Clio 182.

Would you mind telling us stories?

So before,

wanted to come out of the Citroen world

just to see what other car could see

Citroen Saxo's run out at 1.6

and then a couple of friends had

the 172 and the 182.

And I remember thinking,

Caw, two leaders.

Happy back.

Such an English thing.

Yeah.

Americans what?

Yeah.

And so I got a 172.

Paid,

I think it was 600 pound,

but the defaser pulley hadn't been done.

It was due five years before.

So dirty, dirty.

That's nice.

Had the defaser pulley done

for 600 pounds.

And then we thought, well, let's go lapping.

Friend of mine stag do

and zero preparation

other than the defaser pulley

and presumably the oil had been changed or whatever.

With the drive shaft knocking,

not severely,

but you knew the drive shaft was on the way out.

No time just threw one in the boot

and thought, well, there must be loads of garages

near the Nurburgring.

I'll just take it with me

and get it done there.

And a few of the boys were like,

have your payovers.

And I was like,

well, I don't have time to do it now.

So we'll just take it with us.

Anyway, turned up.

And I must have topped up the oil

or checked the oil or something like that.

And in England, sorry,

got to the ring, paid the money,

went round the ring

with zero knowledge

other than, oh, that's the carousel.

And funnily enough,

when I'd done the Rat Dog podcast,

the next day,

it popped up on my Facebook memories

10 years ago.

Really?

I got the timing wrong.

I said 12.

It was 10 years previous.

And there was me

and I was watching myself driving.

And bear in mind,

I've been quite a few times now

and I really, really adore that place.

I didn't have a clue what was going on.

But I overtook more things

than I got overtook by,

which proves that the ring used to be

a much safer place.

There were slower people

just driving like fear multipliers,

normal stuff.

There wasn't.

I don't even think there was a Porsche

on the track at the same time we were.

Anyway, it somehow made it.

I did one lap.

I was a big bag of nerves.

And then I think

one of the lads said,

let's check our coolant

or something quite responsible.

Yeah.

And there it was.

The Orphila cap sat

on the inlet manifold.

And I was like,

I've just driven all the way here.

And I know there isn't much autobahn,

but we treated the whole journey

like it was the autobahn.

And I remember seeing 130 on the clock.

I know it isn't a real 130,

but 130 on a Cleo is quite fast.

Yes.

And then yet to have done that,

I don't know how the oil pressure lie.

I don't know how the car

didn't tell me

Yeah.

You've left the cap off.

And then put the Orphila cap back on.

No driveshaft ended.

And then I was the best man

of that stag do stupidly

put into bookings.com

for the hotel Nuremberg.

Oh, nice.

And most people may have made this mistake,

but not actually gone through

and booked anything.

Nuremberg.

Well, hotels near Nuremberg

brings you out of Munich.

Munich from the ring

is a long way.

So we've done a hot lap.

Well, I say a hot lap.

It felt like a hot lap for us.

Then another four hours down to Munich

for like the drinking part of the stag do

then came home.

Like we must have done

best part of 3000 miles.

She pulled in.

And now I think now I take safety

a bit more seriously

and I take cars a bit more serious.

I'm like, how did that car make it?

And then yeah, pulled into my house

at like two o'clock in the morning

and then the drive shaft just went bang

and I thought, best car in the world.

The best car in the world.

And then yeah, got it fixed the next day.

So yeah, I do really romanticize about the 182

because it has no right

being that capable.

That reliable.

And it was.

And as I say, if I

if anyone that knew what they were doing

and could actually pedal a car

that drive shaft would have come out a long, long time.

But because I was probably just nursing it round

because I'm fine.

This is the M25 for me.

This is normal.

And then got another one

a few years later on the trophy

and bought it.

He had a trophy.

Oh, that's cool.

Because it is the I mentioned this

on the Rat Dog podcast.

I think the trophy 182

is the cheapest

car that most

petrolheads will go.

That's a trophy.

They take it a bit seriously

bought it for four sold it for five.

15.

Yeah, tough.

Great.

But one thing I've never got about the trophy is

halogen headlights.

But we're going to give you air con.

Yeah.

Are you a luxury car?

Yeah.

Pick a side.

Yeah.

I do love them.

Absolutely adore them trophies.

I love a trophy.

But yeah, they're just too.

Too much money.

Have you told on the forecast the story about you

nearly getting a trophy as your first car?

That was what it would have been my second.

Second.

I had a fiesta as my first car.

It was the longest I've ever owned anything two years

and then we'll go.

And then at the time my dad had a trophy.

One or two trophy.

It cost him.

I want to say it cost him about three grand.

And it was nice.

It was really nice.

He had the dampers rebuilt,

which is quite a very common thing in those.

Yeah.

Loads of bits done on it.

And I was, I think I must have been

1920 at the time.

Two years, no claims,

no incidents, anything like that.

And I was like, I'm going to sell the fiesta,

which I think was worth about $1,500 to two grand.

So my dad said to me,

because I think at this time

he just bought an Evo and he wanted the trophy gone.

He's like, you can have that for two grand.

If you could insure it.

I am fairly sure I spoke to every single insurer.

I was just on the, I was like a call centre.

Yeah.

If you can get back to me,

I've got another one online yet.

Next one spoke to them all

and no one would insure me on it at 19.

Speaking to home insurers.

Yeah.

The price code is.

I should have lied.

I should have just given him a forged document all insured.

I'll take it away from here.

Yeah.

And then he just, he sold it and then in the end,

obviously for more than he offered it to me,

but I was, I remember, I drove it.

What he said, he's like, right, drive it.

See if you even like it.

I drove it.

I was like, this is great.

Amazing.

It was the first car I drove

that had like a hard limiter.

No, yeah.

So I was like, I could get used to this.

Yeah.

19 years of old.

19 years.

And I'm going, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.

I need this.

But no one would insure me,

which is understandable to be fair.

Remind me, how many of them were there?

500.

Yeah.

500 came here and 100 went to Switzerland

of the right-hand drive made.

Something like that.

Yeah.

They're not like spread out through Europe.

There's only like one or two countries.

The Saks dampers, you're right.

I mean, I forgot how important that was

because every listing had Saks dampers rebuilt.

Rebuilt, yeah.

And it's like, they are in today's money,

nothing special.

But God forbid you put coil overs on a trophy.

That is sacrilege.

My dad has a trophy.

He bought a second one a few years ago.

Basically he likes the red.

Yeah.

And it's the only way to get a red 182.

So he bought one, didn't have Saks dampers.

I want to say the car was like four or five grand

and this was recently, so it was good money.

Yeah.

Previously crash damaged and it's just with Bilstein's on it.

And it's probably just as good as a better.

I think he said he's bought some Saks dampers

for if in the future.

Just to sell it with them.

But again, you can buy better dampers

and they cost a lot.

And you only buy two.

The reds are just normal.

And I'm right in saying the red capsicum,

which is the Renault Scenic press release color.

Really?

I didn't know that.

Not a special color at all.

That's interesting.

I think it was the Scenic color

without the metallic flake in it.

Nice.

So it was a cheaper version of the Scenic.

It's like not sexy at all.

They must have just blown their load on the Saks dampers

and they're not gonna have money.

So we got some of this old reddy.

Given the halogens as well.

My dad's one's got, doesn't have the original

colors in it.

They've been shaped then the Garos now

and then aftermarket exhaust.

The wheels are still the same.

It's a track sort of half track car club sport car

but with a trophy face.

It's a 182 in red.

Yeah.

Because the trophy forum is like,

again, there'll be lots of other forums like this,

but the trophy one in particular is like,

right, this is my number.

Yeah.

If you sell it, you need to be in that forum.

You need to update us what you are doing with that car.

So they see like a modified one.

And a lot of them to be fair,

like fair enough, it's a trophy that's on the road.

But you can see some that are like, that's not,

they used to have the dampers and the seats.

But it's better modified.

And I'm right in saying the seats that came in the 225

are the same but full leather

and worth a fraction of the amount that they have.

Yeah.

Obviously on the trophy, they're numbered.

Ah, cool.

So you see it in forums where people say,

I've got some Recaro's for sale.

Yes.

I always want to know like, where did that car go?

Yeah.

Is that a dead car?

Someone out there is missing their Recaro's.

Some dude in a 1,000 pound 172

has gone number 77 the seats in it.

I know that there's someone who's gone onto the forum,

who hasn't gone onto the forum for a few months

or weeks and gone, no, my seat.

No, I need those.

They've sold.

It's not like, oh, they'll come up again.

They've gone forever now.

What a thing, mate.

What a thing.

I love a 182.

Even though I might sell mine.

I'm right in saying they're all 55 plates.

Yes.

55 and 05.

Yeah.

It's like the run out version.

Yeah.

Like you said, like that's one of the few cars

that it has the GT3 RS vibe.

Where they...

Yeah, it does.

Oh, it does.

Yeah.

Like if you turn up to a cars and coffee at a 1,7,2,

they'll go, mate, parking's around the back.

Yeah.

You turn up at a trophy and they go,

next to the LFM, if you could please.

Because it got that...

It was Evo car of the year.

Yeah.

It was in the car of the year running.

There's those famous photos of it,

that every single trophy owner will have this magazine.

Yeah.

It's Evo magazine, car of the year.

It's with like a Zonda.

Yeah.

And a load of just stuff it shouldn't be with basically.

Chris Harris done a lovely feature on one

when collecting cars had a huge Renault collection.

Yeah.

It was number one, I think it was.

Was it number one?

Yeah.

And it was really romantic video.

Yeah.

It was mega.

What I would love to do,

because the trophy compared to the R26R,

isn't that special.

No.

The R26R special car.

Yeah.

Real soft spot for them.

To make the R182 or the R172R.

Yeah.

White, red cage, boosted with perspex windows.

And I reckon you could do it.

If you bought a boosted 182 for six,

friendly painter, cage, you could do it for sub 10.

Yeah.

And I thought that would do well on social media.

Also, there are carbon bonnets that are offered.

Yeah.

There's a guy I know who messaged me quite a lot.

He's doing loads of carbon stuff.

He's got a carbon front bumper, rear bumper, doors, roof.

Silver one.

Yes.

I know that chap met me at the ring.

Richard Orr.

I said his name is, but he's gone apeshit.

Yeah.

He sends me an update.

I'm like, whoa, that was a clear like six months ago.

And now it is a spaceship.

Yeah.

It's just carbon everything.

And then you could do like that with some fancy seats in it.

That'd be cool.

It would be nice.

Yeah.

That would be cool.

I would like to see that.

So we'll let you do that one.

Yeah.

We'll have a go when it's done.

So moving on from that stuff,

you are face of Stjanegos.

Stjanegos is a brand I've known about for a while.

And because of you, obviously,

I didn't know about it before.

I saw your stuff on TikTok and Reels and whatever else.

And I was like, you know what?

I don't think I'm sold to particularly often.

But I saw your stuff and I thought, I need to buy something.

Yeah.

It actually has to be good.

And I just, I love the branding and everything you've done with it.

But obviously how did you get to Stjanegos?

Like what is your history before that?

So I've always been a salesman from World Duty Free

in Stansett Airport when I was 19 years old, I think.

But I didn't love the product.

And then I did love cars.

And then I went to do, I went to an engineering company

that sold consumables around the engineering

and welding fabrication world.

And I saw some really, really cool stuff

and some really, really nice people.

But again, I didn't love that space.

And then I worked for a competitor of mine

and I was there for four years and I really, really loved it.

Because going back ever so slightly, when I was at school

everyone says you'll be a second-hand car salesman.

And it felt, it felt derogatory the way they said it.

So I didn't want to be that.

Truth be told, had no one have said that

I probably would have sold second-hand cars

and been quite good at it.

And I don't mean that an arrogant standpoint,

but just that, that is my pattern.

That suits me quite well.

And I grew up watching Only Fools and Auses

from as long as I can remember

I have watched Only Fools and Auses.

And it probably has affected my,

or influenced my persona quite a lot

because I am very, very lucky.

And I do not say this with any arrogance.

I am very lucky because I can just talk at a camera

and it's always salesy focused.

And I didn't, again, I am so lucky to say this.

Please don't think for a second I take it for granted.

Sometimes I don't have anything to say

and then I hit record and I walk around

and these words come out and it's almost like

I'm watching myself.

I'm like, how is this happening?

I don't know how I've just done that.

And I am very, very lucky that in, in 2025,

in the 2000s, social media selling is,

there I say, the most important place to do it

because you, instead of having to deliver

the same pitch to a hundred customers,

you can make that video once

and a hundred thousand people see it.

So I am really, really lucky that drama from the age of three

and then sales in my early career

have sort of combined it to social media sales.

You entertain, you educate, you,

and then that leads to a sale.

And it was so accidental that

I sell a relatively inexpensive product.

You know, it's 10 pound.

I'm not saying our products is cheap,

but a 10 is a 10.

Yeah.

And I can demonstrate it on cars

that are much higher value.

So you can show people,

you know, you can have some real curb appeal in the background,

but what you're trying to sell them

is relatively inexpensive comparison.

And the craziest thing,

and I will never stop mentioning this story

because I think it's so important

for anyone trying to start a business

or anyone intimidated by social media.

I get it.

I was never meant to be the face of Stjarne Gloss.

When we started the brand,

it was meant to be like Supreme.

And I've got our business plan written down

like I'm not making this up.

Supreme was king of the castle

when we started this brand six years ago

in that there was no face of Supreme,

but there were people camping outside

to get Supreme.

And nobody really knew why.

It was just that it had that exclusive feel.

And the fuel can was meant to be our box logo.

It was just, I need that thing.

And the original version fuel can you couldn't buy.

So that was meant to be a need to know basis

on the passenger seat of cars

and everybody wanted to know more about it.

But then COVID kicked in

and it was like, whoa, panic mode.

We need to do something.

So I made a video and it was pants.

But if you just keep going,

you find your niche.

And now as I say, I'm just a fountain of words.

It just comes naturally.

If you care enough,

please go and watch some of the earlier videos

because they are pants.

And I didn't, I have to say,

I worked really hard to get to where we are now.

So what I'm getting at is

if you are unsure and you are intimidated,

everyone's rubbish in the first instance.

Really, really pants.

But you have to push through that.

That's where most people would give up

and say it's not for me.

Just keep going because you will find your niche.

Here's a quick podcast for all you true crime fans.

The case of the missing Reese's.

It was me at the store with my mouth.

Motive? Um, they're Reese's.

What was I going to do? Stop myself?

Tune in next time to see if I do it again.

Spoiler, I will.

Wow, that had everything.

Reese's suspense.

Reese's.

New year.

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So now get two snack wraps plus fries

and a medium soft drink for just eight dollars.

For a limited time only.

Prices and participation may vary.

Prices may be higher in Hawaii,

Alaska and California and for delivery.

Yeah, that's the, I mean,

that is the exact thing that we say

to anyone that ever says to us,

how do I start a YouTube channel?

Just start.

Is just go.

Yeah.

Because we look back on our first 5, 10,

50 TDC videos and I don't like them

because they're not great to me.

Someone might still like them,

but there you just go, just start.

Please do.

Because you'll never, you'll never perfect it enough

to start with a banger.

No.

It will not happen.

I know you think in your head,

in my head, I still think I could do it.

If you wipe the slate clean,

I could start with a good one.

No, it won't.

It won't be good.

If you're starting something new,

you are going to learn along the way.

It's inevitable.

And no matter how professional you are at one thing,

if you move into something else

that you've never done before,

you're going to mess it up along the way.

And actually part of that is what's endearing to some people.

Absolutely.

You know what?

This guy hasn't come in as if to say,

I know how this works.

You're going to listen to me.

Yeah.

Okay.

I'm seeing this person.

The people who have followed you for a long time,

they're going, okay,

I've seen you start from there

and now you're doing this with the builds

and whatever else.

So people like that human touch.

Same reason that Armstrong was so successful.

Yeah.

He does not hide any part of his fumbles,

his mistakes, his issues.

He goes, yeah, I messed it up.

I might get it right on the next one.

That's human.

Yes.

That's exact.

You mentioned the fuel cans.

And those are for the audio listeners.

Completely forgot.

Sorry.

One of one.

An actual fuel can.

Yeah.

That's your,

I guess brand.

I would say it's our mascot mascot.

That's the word I was looking for.

But people paint them in there like car colors.

I mean,

so you've brought two along with us today.

I think if I'm honest,

the one on the bottom,

I think you might need to get your production quality

up a little bit more.

No,

we decided to make a TDC one

and I think it's come out lovely.

The logo is not bad.

You did this like an hour before.

Yeah.

I thought it wasn't too bad.

It was also with a permanent marking paint pen.

That by the way is Alex's cam.

He's going to be quite upset about this.

It does not wipe off.

No matter what you do to it,

it will not come off.

One of one.

And the fuel cans,

a real quick overview of them.

The first ones were sponsorship only.

And then we had a lot of people inquiring,

saying, I want one.

I want one.

I said, yeah,

they're sponsorship only.

And I can't remember the guy.

He said, I'll buy one.

And we just never considered it.

So they, they were quite a lot of money.

They're 300 pounds.

And now they're 400 quid because obviously the price of anything

hasn't gone down.

And but the nuts thing is we don't do custom fuel cans.

Yeah.

We only do the whatever color it might be.

So at the moment,

the current color is slate gray.

Every color,

every can you see out there that is not a original color.

They've painted and we are so lucky.

That's so cool.

We don't care that much to customize the cans.

We've now got some that flocked inside leather inside.

Gentleman cut this John Gloss logo out of it

and has backlit it.

People have spent chunks of money on these things.

We are so lucky to have customers to sponsor cars.

To rep your brand.

Yeah.

Just amazing.

And I don't mean to sound wet,

but we will never take that for granted.

Yeah.

But when somebody goes,

I've customized my can.

I'm like, is that okay?

Of course it's okay.

It's okay.

I know Ferrari get upset if you do anything with their products,

but I am all for customizing your can.

Yeah.

But your one,

dare I say it,

that's,

well, first of all,

most is bigger.

It's actually double the capacity.

20 liters.

And yours actually holds fuel,

whereas ours is just an inconvenience

because it's got to be holding the back of it.

But it is for holding details.

Detail and product.

Obviously not.

Mine's empty because I'm an idiot.

But yeah,

they normally open up like a briefcase

and there's all the essentials that you need

for cleaning the car.

But we said before that is,

it's such a unique,

but also perfect idea.

It's a car person's object

that contains car people objects.

If that makes sense.

It's something you want with you.

And it also doesn't look like a scrub.

What do you call it?

Those wash bag things that just have

all your shower mats and things inside.

That's that looks wank.

Also that it's a good case

for not overthinking stuff too much

because if you had a planning meeting

with five people in it and you're thinking,

we need to need a product that we can sell

for that amount of money.

If someone said,

what about fuel can?

Everyone would go,

no, no, we talking about that.

Let's just try that.

Yeah.

Because it's like the supreme thing.

It doesn't have to be a calculated

or if we do this,

this will work.

And it just works.

And to be fair,

it wouldn't be right to not mention

to important people.

Dom of Dota Juice,

my director,

it was his idea.

So I will never take credit for the fuel can.

And also it was a spin on a,

you must have seen them on the internet.

It was a guy who'd made it like a mini bar.

So there was a bottle of Jack Daniels

and six pounds of Coke.

Yeah.

So he basically put the door in it.

Yeah.

And then Dom was like,

get that light out.

Yeah.

Fill it up with car cleaning products.

But you're right.

You would never,

I don't think anyone would ever come up

with that idea from a commercial perspective.

Yeah, exactly.

They're a big pain in the backside.

I don't shit very well.

You imagine putting a fuel on an invoice

and try and send it to America.

They love it.

They love seeing the word fuel can.

So yeah,

big inconvenience for shipping internationally.

And the other thing is what we didn't realize

is because they stand quite tall,

you put the logo on the front,

people then put them next to their car.

You think of something else that you can transport,

car related that stands.

Yeah.

It just worked so well,

but all these things we learned along the way.

So yeah, and obviously,

as I mentioned before,

I've seen a load of your content all over.

And actually genuinely,

I actually like cleaning cars,

but sometimes I'll see your stuff and go,

you know, I do want to get out

and try to.

It actually has.

Yeah.

Cause I'm bad about doing it.

I do not clean my cars,

but I'll see, I'll get a real pop off.

I'll go, all right, fine.

I'll go and do it.

I'll do it.

Forced is the big one, I think.

Whenever I see that on social media,

that makes me want to go out and clean.

Yeah.

Cause people like a,

if you want a bit of a term,

a miracle product.

Yeah.

One that you spray on and goes,

this does everything.

Obviously there are loads of elements

to detailing a car.

But I look at that and go,

okay, that makes my life a million times easier.

Yeah.

But it doesn't have this like,

shiny, polished, annoying video.

We've worked with brands in the past.

We have.

And it's boring.

It makes it really, really boring.

When someone goes,

The pH is incredible almost.

But no one can neutralize me.

In a science lesson.

All of a sudden that no one understands.

People understand the result and

Yeah, they do.

A smell and a look.

A 50-50.

Yeah.

The classic.

The, the, the,

what we learn along the way.

So as I mentioned earlier on,

my parent company,

Dota Juice,

they are very much for the detailer.

The guy that has got far too much time on their hands.

And naturally,

they thought that ethos would rub off onto.

If you are a detailing brand,

you should want to do it properly.

But one thing I think laziness was a cheat code

was people don't have five hours.

Yeah.

They've got an hour at best.

So forced,

this is just pretty clean as you mentioned earlier on,

does lift so much dirt.

I'm not using this as a sales pitch,

but it is a great,

it is a great visual.

Here we have it.

It's a great sales,

it's a great visual because you go dirty car, clean car, mega.

And the other cheat code,

if you will,

or lazy,

what people buy into is the protective rinse aid

because you have a completely unprotected panel

you spray it on and then it's protected.

People want speed.

Yeah.

And I probably annoy some of my competitors

because it is like,

this is the quickest way to clean your car yourself.

Obviously you can go down the petrol station

and they can do it for you, of course,

but I still want customers that care enough

about their own car.

So I'm more than happy to lean into,

that will rip most of the dirt off.

You still need to do a contact wash

and you can protect the car and dry it in half the time.

That's what most people have got time for.

Whereas,

yeah,

there are much better ways of cleaning the car,

but thank you for mentioning that

because I'm not so proud to listen to my customers

next door neighbor, Jason.

I reference him quite a lot.

I watch him clean his car.

Obviously I clean my car at work,

so it's not a thing.

He has an hour on a Saturday to do his car.

And I'm like, right,

that's who I need to talk to.

And thank you for,

I love,

I've literally my most favourite part of the job

is making the videos

and sometimes I worry that

I'm getting a little bit too arrogant with it.

But every time I post another video,

it just gets more and more laughing faces

and I'm like,

people get it as long as we get the humour,

because sometimes I can come across so arrogant

and it's probably a bravado.

It's probably a persona that's come out

through years of doing it.

But I love the fact that it reminds you

to clean your car because that's fantastic.

And also again,

there's the,

you said you mentioned before

that you didn't intend on like being the face

of Stonagloss,

but if I'm thinking of detailing brands in my head,

you're probably the only face I think of.

Between like back in the day, Dale.

Yeah, that's basically it.

But in terms of like right now

on social media,

that's it and it just proves people like

to see people respond to things.

It's quite a faceless, smart,

bit stuffy, stuffy,

like business type trying to be corporate.

Exactly.

It has no right being corporate.

We clean cars.

You're not aiming at that person.

You're aiming,

I always think about it is that a car,

for a car person,

it doesn't need to be immaculate.

It needs to be that you finish the wipe,

stand back and go,

I'm gonna get a photo of that.

Yeah.

That's it.

I'm,

if you go and look up close on my car,

it's still dirty in places.

When I stand back and go, man, that's,

I love that car.

Yeah.

That's my car.

Yeah.

That's all that matters to someone.

Not much feels better than a clean car.

Yeah.

And it's not because you've gone,

oh, there's a little swell mark

on my big spoiler there.

Don't care.

Yeah.

The,

I made a video the other day

about Quick Detailer

and I do treat the car to a,

if I've got a spare 20 minutes,

just go over the car with Quick Detailer.

Excuse me.

Because it will add a little bit of shine.

Yeah.

You will catch those bits that you've missed

and I respect it.

We've all done it.

When you go to the petrol station

and you spin round

and it's just got that extra little bit of pop.

Yeah.

Oh yeah.

Now you should polish

and correct the paint

and seal it

and buh buh buh buh buh buh.

No one's got half a day to do that.

Yeah.

Just give a little wipe over

with a Quick Detailer.

Not mine.

Anyone's.

Any Quick Detailer

is the difference of,

oh, and yeah.

Yeah.

That's all that matters.

Yeah.

That is all that matters

that makes you fall back

in love with your car.

Anyway, personally,

anything that you do to a car,

like, you know,

spending three days detailing it,

that makes you then not want to drive it.

It's getting drier than it is.

Yeah.

It puts me off because I'm like,

what?

It looks amazing,

but I don't want to,

I don't even roll a wheel

in case there's a bit of dust on the tire.

Yeah, exactly.

It's so doing it quickly and efficiently.

So it's also,

it's part of it

is the Instagram generation.

Of course, yeah.

That's like,

I want this to be clean enough

that looks great in photo.

Yeah.

No one's going to be going over it

with a light.

Blind tooth going out.

We'll call it the form of the week.

A question to you.

It's a question we get quite often,

but what is a tip to someone

on Instagram on

whatever social media platform you want,

doing not necessarily car stuff,

but just as someone who does it

as a job,

what is a tip that you give them

broad, broad just,

hey, if you're going to do this

presenting videos

or just social media in general,

either or someone

that is taking it,

let's say not professionally,

but you know what I mean,

like they are,

they're wanting to do it

more than just a personal page.

They're wanting to gain followers.

Give me a second to think

because we get asked this quite a lot

and it's, I never know.

I know it's safe for YouTube.

Yeah.

I class YouTube and like Instagram

and TikTok as a completely wildly

different thing.

Yeah.

They are, to my parents,

they're the same thing.

Yeah.

But in reality,

the approach is completely different.

Blake, who we spoke to

spoke about on a couple of podcasts

prior.

He's the guy who owns

the Mercy Lager that we drove.

He's essentially doing

social media full-time now.

He doesn't have a full-time job.

That's what he does.

But he said,

I started my car page

like three years ago or something

or two years ago.

Well, I think it was one year ago,

the car page.

So a year ago

and he said,

I have not missed a day.

Yeah.

So that's like his method of doing it.

It's like,

I'm just going to post every day

and make sure it goes out

and that's his method for growing.

And it works.

He said,

yeah, in the car pages one year

and he posts once a day,

hasn't stopped.

His fitness one

was three years it's been going.

He posts twice a day.

He's never missed a day.

Wow.

That's big.

I think my little tip bit would be

you got predominantly YouTube.

I am predominantly short format.

Yeah.

I think it's really,

really important to understand

the platform that you're posting to

because in short format

you need a hook quick.

And that I've only learned that

in the last 18 months.

That makes a hell of a difference.

So in YouTube world,

that is create the arcs

of interest.

Yeah.

I think

learn that,

understand that

because if you do

and you execute it

your following will go up.

There is a reason.

There is literally a science

to the social media

and I'm not saying get boring

and dig into it

like Mr. Beast does

because I think he takes,

well obviously he takes it

to the end of the degree.

That's why he's the biggest

YouTuber in the world.

But I do think

if you want to do short format

understand the hook

but don't

but make it your own.

Yeah.

And that's not an easy thing

to say and I apologize

but mine

and I hate to say this

if I can swear

in the first three seconds of video

that will do well.

Really?

And I hate that.

I really, really hate that

but it seems to catch people off.

They're like what?

I guess all of the social media

is avoiding swearing.

So if you see someone's wearing

you're like, oh you know what

this guy is being more natural.

This guy's wearing to not

it's not a presenter

if you like going.

So this is the detailing.

Yeah.

The what I'd recommend say

one of the things you've mentioned

in the podcast was the skip.

Yeah.

And how that is

incredibly interesting

as people who are in the business

and look at stats all day

that's crazy.

If you could explain that

like quickly.

Of course.

So I used to start

all of my videos with a skip

and it was a spin on

oh my God,

what was the boxer's name?

Prince Nassin

used to wear leopard print

boxing shorts

and he used to walk up

to his competitor

and do this little goose step

and he used to really throw them off

but he was so famous for it.

When I was trying to sort of

get myself psyched up

for a video

I used to walk up to the camera

goose step

and then start talking

but I would always cut

the goose step

and just start talking.

Yeah.

And then I can't remember

who it was

but I should leave that in

because that's quite funny.

So I did

and the comment section was

what was that?

Yeah.

And it really grabbed attention.

The crazy thing is

I think

over two years probably

people got a little bit numb

to the skip

so they would see the skip

and scroll past.

I then dropped the skip

and my video views

went through the roof

because I was talking

straight away

whereas it used to be

skip, take two steps

and then start talking

and in those steps

it was the difference

of them sticking around

and scrolling past

so it worked

but that's another thing

to remember

don't stay with one thing

because it will get stagnated

Is that a word?

Yeah.

It will feel stagnant.

I don't know what to try to say

but yeah

and I will do a

I will make a video

on why the skip doesn't exist.

The skip doesn't exist

because our sales went through the roof

and that is it.

I love the fact that people

request stuff

and I love the fact

when people come

and quote videos to me

but it can't feel too same

me all the time

because then there's nothing

fresh about it

and it's quite hard

when you've only got 15 products

to talk about

but yeah, the skip

honestly killed

viewer retention

That's crazy.

When we was in the middle of COVID

I think people would have watched

any dribble

but now it's like

you really need to grab

their attention quicker

it'd be interesting to see

if I did it again

would the views go back up

because it's been quite

a long time now

but yeah

retention is very important

I guess it's quite similar

so we see a similar

thing on you

obviously the videos are longer

but you still have that

very short period of time

at the beginning of a video

before someone goes

to get them mad

isn't it 30 seconds on YouTube

I would probably say 10

really?

wow

it depends on the audience

and stuff

but I think in like current times

if someone doesn't see

something that they

want to stick around for

in the first 10 to 20 seconds

they

well we anecdotally

saw it last week

we posted the

the Hummer video

the Hummer

EV video

and we saw that

the moment we said

the word electric

everyone's gone

really

gone

and you know what?

fair enough

the audience

they don't want to watch it

but that was a good TDC video

and it is

possibly our worst performing one

ever

yes pretty much

and it's

and I love that current

I love that video

and I thought we gave it

a good you know

look around

fair rat

yeah fair

and also quite funny

there were still comments

were like

how much did I

pay you for this

we made fun of

how hard it was to charge

for half the video

do you think they would pay

it also

it was a rental car

you think Hummer paid us

and went

yeah guys we can't give you a car

so if you could just go

rent one off Churro

that would be good

yeah cheers

do you reckon now

if you just said

the non-internal combustion engine

vehicle

they would

enough people would probably

yeah caught by it

we were even wondering

if we mentioned

electric

I don't know 30 seconds

or 40 seconds earlier

would at that point

do they go

well I'm here now

might as well stick around

but because it's in

like the first five seconds

they have that chance

to go

nothing for me to see here

I'm not sticking around

I'm gone

because they were good about

week to be fair

we've said this before

we don't

we don't pay much mind

to comments

because they are such

a tiny minority

of

they are your most active

sorry

they are your most vocal

audience

but let's say

you get 2,000 comments

on the 200,000 view video

that is

that is one percent of people

the rest of the people

enjoyed it and left

they might share

some of those feelings

but they didn't care

enough to comment

so why

you know

about very tiny minority

but even then

there were

like a good amount of comments

that were

hey guys love the videos

I'm not watching this one

because it's electric

see you next week

I love it

but you're not fair enough

on just being like

yeah it's just now

as long as it wasn't hate

I do struggle

with the

proper angry

hate comments

you think fella

just grow

I think a lot of people

don't know this

but when you're a

a channel on YouTube

when someone comments

on your video

click their name

and you can see

all of the comments

they've left on your channel

so you can see

when they've commented before

and any time

we get a comment like that

which again

we don't read through comments

we've

Will and I used to work

on Facebook

and Facebook

was tough

Facebook in 2015 to 2020

that's where we were

working on Facebook

that was rough

if there's a video

of you doing something

you'll get into it

put your face on Facebook

you're done

simply out of interest

I will click on the name

and sure enough

there is a comment

on every single video

going

you guys are hacks

you're an idiot

if you think this

and it's always

nine times out of nine

you click on their comment

they're leaving a comment

every video

angry people

always angry about something

they just have to

if they

actually that's really interesting

if they were

95% positive

and they had

you'd think

that's got to be a substance

but if they are just

haters

they just want to hate

for some reason

there's one thing

they're looking for

because you're not providing it

they want to hate everything

you're not doing a video

on the Fiat Punto

1.4

2003

therefore I hate everything

you're doing

and if you do do a video

your stuff is out there

find it

but if you did do a video

they want to go

you've got it all wrong

you haven't done that justice

you idiot

yeah social media

world is

an interesting one

but you have

done a bit of YouTube

stuff

so yeah I did

we did two

main series

one was called

Mr Diamond

where we bought a 1500 quid mini

which was in

Porsche Mint

wide body thing

we bought it for 1500 quid

with the intention of

putting a couple of grand into it

really going to town on the cleaning

and then we were going to give it away

and

we spent

I'd say two days

per episode filming

and then obviously it went off for edit

so I would say

a week of time

went into the episodes

it just never did very well

and I would say

I didn't understand YouTube

and I was just

doing what I thought felt natural

but I would say

average views on that was like five six thousand

and then we did the

E46

CSL destroyer

that's what we called it in-house

where we basically bought it

put a load of time and attention into it

making it

what we thought was better than a CSL

and again

lots of time

lots of money

lots of energy

didn't

didn't do very very well

and

when you're

from a business perspective

you've got a channel here

that you have to put a thousand pound in-ish

per episode

and it gives you five thousand views

or there's me and a tripod

in a car park

and I can get a million views

which one are you going to put your time and attention into

you know what I mean

and I think

I think also my persona

in short format

and real high energy

that don't

I can't keep that up

for YouTube

because

I've only got so much monster in the day

whereas you can

you can keep the energy really really high

for 60 seconds

I think people saw a different persona

on short format

to YouTube

and they were like

well that's not

we're not used to that

so yeah

I've just sort of knocked it on the head really

I would love to fire it up again

but the Americans

in our world

detailing it

crush it

and I was like

that's a tough one to go up against

I would back myself

in short format

for engagement

against anyone

whereas YouTube

I'm small fish

and I'm fine with that

yeah

I think you would do well on YouTube though

thank you

again you have the likeable

personality

to go very far on YouTube

which is what

a lot of people don't

they look at all the YouTube

stats

okay I've got this right

I've got this right

but then if you don't have the person

that

hundreds of thousands of people

want to follow

it's not going to work

well I think you would probably

if you stuck it out

for a long enough

which is the hardest part

of doing it

I think you'd probably do quite well

I think also

there is one thing that you have

in droves

over not only other people in the UK

but especially the Americans

is brutal honestly

which is why

part of the reason why

we want to do the TDC podcast

because it's our flavour too

if you're a clown

we'll get the red nose out for you

hence the sign on the door

over there

mx5s are banned

by order of TDC

I love it

but that's something

that you do a lot

on your

channels

the roast videos

so I will

say this here

because you've

led me to it

that is a YouTube

video that I'm going to shoot

week after next

we got

12

very good friends

with extremely modified cars

a Jeep, my right-hand man

put on his story

Knocks John and Gloss

if you want your car roasting

no holding back

send me pictures

and your Instagram

because

I would love

when I do the

walk-around videos at shows

I'm always very gentle

just in case

because you don't know

who they are

and God forbid

I've made a mistake before

where I dug out a car

which I shouldn't have done

the joke was crap as well

and it was his granddad's car

and I felt like

I felt so bad for saying it

so now we're playing it very safe

we know them

they have said

go mad

do what you want

you can have a dig at me

you can have a dig at the car

I don't care

because I think that

sitting down

roasting cars

is relatively low budget

yeah

and

will be funny

yeah yeah

whereas when you're doing

when you're modifying cars

as you boys

in here

there in everywhere

you might have to do 4 hours

for 10 seconds of footage

absolutely

whereas if I could build

my subscribers

with just me

sat down

talking dribble

mega

I'd love that

I'd love to have a go at that

but as I say

anyone that sees that

just know

and I will have to put a disclaimer

because we are

some of the

some of the notes I've made

are like

you can't say that

you can if you know them

exactly

they are mates

we said the same

because

at Carthroat

they did roast my ride

because

was it once every month maybe

where it was Alex

and the guys would sit down

get people

they would send in cars

and they would do it

but Will and I

always used to say

I'd love

I'd love that

because there's so many

pieces of shit

I've seen my car

I've seen it

and I wish I'd never seen it

yeah

we always say

to the

like respect all

builds crowd

it's like

I can

I can respect it

I can

understand why you did it

I haven't got to like it

but I hate it

and I really hate this

I

I don't know where I sit on that

respect all builds

because

half of me

is like

I love all my customers

but

you should also

if I have to respect your build

maybe you should

respect my opinion

exactly

respect your opinion

that's exactly

what we've always said

is that if you're

if you're doing

anything to your car

if you're putting the time

in to do

even wash it

you're part of the club

you're a car person

yeah

I'm shoulder to shoulder

with you on that

but if you put

those horrible

stretch tires on there

with weak fitment

I want to call you a clown

yeah

and in a few years

you're going to look back on it

and go yeah I was

yeah

I look back on photos of my Mx5

in the early days

what

what idiot

my 106

what idiot

let me

near a spanner

what a

what a clown I was

but

you learn

every time

I've got to tell you

funny story

so

look

and I saw this

voxel insignia

not a bad car

and I'm looking in the rear

view mirror

I'm thinking

what is up with that

it looked

like a standard car

but there was something

going on in the grill

I thought

I couldn't work it out

because I'm bouncing down

the road in that

I'm thinking

he's got blue fog horn

like the

hella horns

like the Subaru

no not even that

but just you know

like the

where the noise comes from

in a horn

just behind the grill

they were blue

and I was like

who on earth would paint

them blue

whatever

he then decides to

overtake me

and I'm thinking fella

this is not the road

to overtake on

it's a

it's a bypass

but it's quite a blind one

and then as he come up

alongside me

I realised that he had

blue

wind deflectors

blue

alloy wheels

blue calipers

nice

blue interior

and then as it

went past me

it said

respect all bills

and I thought

like

you are

who the

I'm gonna

sorry I could get

real potty mouth with it

on what planet

are you doing blue accents

on a silver

I just thought

you are

silver car

silver

I thought it was black

in my head

on what planet

black and blue

would be a bruise

it would be even worse

but

it just hated

everything about this car

and then it said it

respect all

and I thought

no

I'm not

gonna come up

we said it with Tony

that a well built car

has nothing to do with money

there is enough

there is enough internet

and time

and if you have access

to the internet

and you have access

to the keys for your car

you can build something cool

with nearly nothing

we're going to do

a video semi soon

that's for either

a grand or two grand

taking a completely

stock car

and building in

something that's

actually good

driving and hopefully

looking

but

there's a lot of people

that don't

want the respect

for not putting

the time in

which is that doesn't run

no

I think there's

so much value

in

depending on the car

obviously

20mm lowering

the bigger

the daddy spec

of your car

or the next version up

so several months

you get an A5

you put the sq5

wheels on it

20mm drop

little tinted window

just

that's lovely

and that's relatively

inexpensive

because presumably

you've sold your

wheels for 500 quid

and

lowering springs

and some time

tinted windows

cool thing

just

that'll do

but some of the

contraptions you come

with

blue wheels

oh

I'm so angry

at him

but yeah

there's this weird

there's this weird belief

that

to be

to be interesting

or to be cool

you have to be different

which is not

the case at all

there is a way

of not necessarily

conforming

to the

style

of working

having your own

take on it

you don't need

to put the entire

T-Mew catalogue on

to be seen as

yo

you're killing the game bro

don't

just

this is why

you should bring that

bullying

we are

have you

listened to the

TDC podcast before

that is

to be fair

obviously we saw some

of your content

to do with that

doing that at the show

and obviously you get

people that are going to

say

you can't do that

at the show

14 years

every time we go to a show

you go and see a car

that's parked up

probably with the bonnet up

with lights all over it

and it

this looks awful

it's got a lego brick

as a

I was going to say

before you say anything more

we're all thinking

of a focus ST

we don't need to say it

but we're all thinking

of a mark to ST

lego brick

I want to do

a ST

because

five pot

great sound

speaking for the

relatively inexpensive

I've never seen one

coil over as good set of

wheels

half cage

and bucket seats

it is

exceptionally rare

because

I've had

two STs

three STs

and two RSs

of the mark two gen

it's

major to make a mark two

an RS

look good

because it's got arches

and all that stuff

and actually the RS people

I think it's because

the value is higher

so naturally

there are

less people willing

to really mess them up

but God they still do

it's the

Ford thing is

I got a fast Ford

who tuned it

it was a revo

it was mountain

it was whoever

and they go right

I'm going to pass that

all up the side of the car

it'll be on the screen

over

it'll be tattooed on my arm

it'll be absolutely every

of that

it's a lifestyle

isn't it

oh

all poor patrol

up the side of it

Jesus

there is

there's a crash

man

the cute one

I shouldn't laugh

maybe this person

listens to the podcast

every time I see that

do you know what

the thing is

I almost like

that because

it's almost like a donk

in America

like you know they have the

you know the cheerios

up the side

like that's

that's cool

but it is

it's when it's the

child friendly liveries

are not allowed

the digital

was it the digital camo

but they're like

the claw marks up the side

come on now

it feels like a cod

it feels like a cod lobby

yeah

it's like a gamer tag

sort of thing

it's a bit

12 year old forza

Jaguars can have some

steak for a second

if you have

a new gen Jaguar

with a pounce in Jaguar

take it off

not allowed anymore

I don't know what it is

are they off the market

is that people

you can't have

to this on the front

you can't have anything

protruding anymore

the growler

is it a growler

what's it called

he's got a name though

a leaper

I like growler

I don't know

I think because the

statue of

statue of ecstasy

okay

spirit of ecstasy

thank you

because that can

pull itself down

that's why it's safe

whereas now

I don't think you're allowed

to have anything protruding

bodywork

oh interesting

so there was obviously a time

of old XJ

I want to say the 90s

where that wasn't a thing

and now it is a thing

so you're not allowed to have them

so if you put

one of these

on a new gen Jaguar

take it off

I think it should be inserted into you

oh look at it

you're so pounce

nice spec though

oops

I've deleted the wrong one

but anyway

you know I agree on that

that's a no go

we might have to do

a joint roast at some point

but it's just live at

40 plates

40 plates to use

40 plates

but some

I'm going to double down now

Neons are cool

yeah

give me some Neons

well we were talking

because you found the

the Isami video

on the Mercilago

yes

and he has

it's not really Neons

but he's got LEDs

and bits all over it

that is a no go

but if you do

if you commit to the full bit

with the full Neons

also

it's 2025

there's now the LED

like the

the ones that flow

from color to color

those are cool

let's go

yeah I love it

we did

it was literally a copy

of Monkey London's video

but we'd already filmed it

just

we filmed the video

putting Christmas lights

on the car

and then the day after

we'd filmed it

Monkey London put his video out

of putting the Christmas lights

on the car

we were like

god damn it we've just done this

we have to put the video out anyway

but we put

I put Neons on the MX5

and I was like

I like this

I think there's

again it's that thing

where you can over do it

where it's

there are lights everywhere

that this

the video there's a video

of a Mercilago again

there are LEDs everywhere

you put the door up

there's LEDs

it's when people highlight

things that don't need

to be highlighted

like

there are two fans

at the back of a Mercilago

that are covered by a mesh grill

for a reason

no one wants to look

at the back of a plastic fan

and in this car

it's lit up green

and you can just

see a fan

it's like

you know

it's not like it's your

amazing exhaust manifold

or something

it's like

look at my fans

intercooler

intercooler lights

intercooler I always want to

I said this to Will

this is back when we were at

Carthra

although I was making memes

and memes were funnier

is that I wanted to do

I wanted to paint

my intercooler black

on my LX5

and then use

glow in the dark paint

to paint

the words suck

on it

because that was funny

and then have a black light

in front of it

so I could turn it on

and only at night

it would just glow the word up

but I thought

that would be funny

and then I remember

thinking about that

like six months ago

and just going

what's wrong with you

in the wrong setting

it would be

badly misunderstood

or the police are over eyes

the police are there

do you want to suck

wow

so you have forced induction

so it's like that

but you're a lollipop

in the Astra

yeah

oh

but yeah

Ford's are real guilty of that

where do you sit

on chrome wheels

you know what

car to car

I love them

and there is

an E46 M3

on chrome

18 rears all around

that I adore

and I would still love to do it

I think it's location based

yeah

I think it's bad

Americans here

I think you are

it's

it's not right

you might get away with it

depending on who you are

where you are

the weather, the setting

we saw that SL

the Brabus SL

incredible

on some chrome

Brabus wheels

think blue cantrel

and it's that

was that without a car

what's the

I think I know the SL

you're talking about actually

and I think it's

fitment dependent

yes

if you got it right

yeah

in the

I think

I'd say the UK equivalent

is ceramic polished

this is close as we get to chrome really

I think if you've got the fitment

to back it

I'm like yeah

but if it's standard ride height

with some shonky

side profile

that's it

that car

look at that

yeah

you can't tell me that's not good

for chrome wheels

horny

if you could get away with

basically if the wheel would look good

in any

in a silver or a matte

yeah then it's okay

you could probably get away with the chrome

but again yeah for me

I don't know what it is

I think it might be a weather thing

for me

I feel like you need

chrome wheels in a climate

where it's just sunny all the time

yeah that photo that we just put up

was in California

yeah

but it's in a slough

it's not so great

I think

a boss man's trying to you know

clean it at the what's called

that's that's not great

yeah

I'd only have them as well

if I had carbon ceramic brakes

because

so a good sponsor of mine

Norm

he had polished

I can't remember what wheels there were now

what wheels I believe

and every day

he had to

clean the wheels

yeah

I'm like that's getting old quick

yeah

that's getting old

I couldn't do that

because I'm bad about washing cars anyway

yeah

so I would

it would get two weeks in

they'd look across there and go

well that's what they look like forever now

wheels is my worst thing

actually including a car

well the number one thing

is trying to do it regularly enough

that's why I like something that is quick

but wheels

I love

I love the way wheels look

but it's the

you love wheels

I'm not the one to

I'm not taking a wheel off

I ain't taking off

and doing the inside

and doing all that stuff

I probably should

but I can't do that

I want to throw a wheel cleaner at it

jet wash it off

yeah

that's a wheel

yeah

Will was the first person to teach me about

like acidic wheel cleaner

like a bleeding wheel cleaner

and I remember

my day

my life was changed

yeah

I'm thinking

hold on

because I was using fairy liquid in a bucket

into one

I'll admit that

I remember Will showing to me

and I was like

you don't even need to touch them

you just spray it

and spray it

and then spray it with water

incredible

best product in the world

I love a wheel cleaner

a good one

also is it

but maybe it's the same for you

I now like the smell

oh no

the smell

because it now

feels to me like

things are happening

and progress is happening

it feels effective

that I'm like

okay cool

if I spray one and it doesn't smell

I'm like

nah I'm gonna work

but where is my girlfriend

we'll go like

I smell

and like run off

and I'm like

nah we're just cleaning wheels

smells like clean wheels

smells like shine

you obviously mentioned

that when you said about carbon fiber

being good for

like social media

I was going to ask a question

about

like what would be

non-social media build

do you mind

talking about that

or do you

so one thing that I learned

early on in the brand

was

when I joined the brand

I had the 182 trophy

and I was nearing 30

very very overweight

and it was a personal decision

to go

I don't want to be in this car anymore

and obviously

kids

Cleo's

so I bought

a

what was

it was a core project

in my mind

I bought the X358

XJ

2.7 diesel

gangster

rear screens

20 inch BBS factory wheels

all blacked out everything

and I thought

I bought it cheap

like 2,800 pound

high mileage

but the engine was strong

with the intention of

look at that

that's great

we've talked about it multiple times

they are great

I just love it

with the intention of

the paint was dog

the interior was hanging

I thought there's

detailing content to have out of this

we can

muck about with the factory air ride

we can pull the fitment out a little bit

the core gangster whip

no one cares

nobody cares about

XJs on the internet

so

the one I've got now

is purely for me

because I've got

social media friendly cars

but that

you either get them

or you don't

you either driven one

or you haven't

that is the answer

the best

thing for five grand

ever

apart from Cleo 182

of course

I just

and it missed

I missed

by a mile

on social media

you just watch the engagement

no one cared

got the 46 bang through the roof

so

I think

every time I see one of these on the road

I'm reminded

how good looking that is

that's the following generation

which is probably a better car

for a car

that's what I've got now

not as good

not as pretty

no in here

much better car

but

as you say

the road presence

that can rival a Rolls Royce

and it's a

fraction

you know what

it's especially when I see

the X 308

is the previous gen

right

yes the O8

is the Chrome bumpers

from the front

is one of the most

intimidating things

yeah but one of these

from the rear

the way they sit on the road

is so good

lover cracks alloy

yeah

love

but only 1.7 ton

to the best of my knowledge

really

aluminium

great on fuel

could you fit those

what's going on

wheels

yeah

the Paris

you probably could put

Paris

we've got the XFR

which you saw out there

that's a

great more like Ford

bit more

really

yeah but also like

the wheels

they don't have the same

fitment

the bolt patterns

different basically

to the older Jags

first thing I thought of

of that Jag was

I want the

on the XKRs

at these BBS

Paris

five spoke wheels

split

they look

I love them

because they're huge

they're like a

10J 10.5J

at the rear

pull them up

this is basically

you're getting

a small

insight to what

this entire unit

is all day

watch this

look at this

but we researched it

and obviously found out

different bolt pattern

which is not the end

of the world

different PCB

not really going to

work properly

but

Edwin did a render

which I don't think

we have anymore

I don't think

I if I do

we'll overlay

like a facelift

XFR

and oh

it looked

mental

if I was

a billionaire

possibly the first

thing I do is

get that built

let's go

I think Jags

it's the

with Jags

you either like them

like we've just spoken

about them

or you think it's

an old man car

but unfortunately

I think the majority are

still in the

they see that

and go

funeral car

or

85 year old man

drives it

I think

I've done a

what AG chaps are

I think

I remembered Jagu

was from

Lockstock and

two smoking barrels

snatch

being gangster

whereas the

and it's like

I get it

I really

your perspective

but I just think

they're so cool

and now because of the Euro

16

dirty cheap

and

Bentayga

sorry not Bentayga

Oh my God

not Bentayga

Continental

a crap one

12 grand

that's just as comfortable

and I would argue

that

people would take that

more seriously

because if you pull up

on the Continental

you look like

something

you shouldn't be doing

isn't the Jag

Bentley over there

it's just better

what a sophisticated gentleman

who drives

on those Paris wheels too

very nice

they shouldn't be on the door

to the door

tell me chat

what PCD you're running

do they do long wheelbase ones

I think

I think all of the

R's are long wheelbase

I love seeing

any car that has a long

wheelbase option

and I see that

long ass red door

I don't need that

but I want that

Supercharged long wheelbase

I think you can get

only on the V8

big boys

that's the only thing

well

from an economy point of view

probably a diesel's better

but

give me a V8 one of those

this is the thing

this is the problem

that I'm having with mine

little ground on the front

if you

sorry

start again

the problem that

I've got with the XJ

I've bought

is it's a three litre

V6 petrol

Supercharged

and it's not slow

but it's not quick

and it's not very good on fuel

so

my argument is

I have the diesel

for maximum

I don't need to go to the

V8 for weeks

or have the big boys

Supercharged V8 one

because I'm either going fast

or I want it to be good on fuel

that V6 one that I've got

it's just a bit nothingness

I mean in the middle

and I think I'm wrong

it's better on fuel than the M2

but I still have to go

to the fuel station

twice a week

whereas I have to go

three times a week in the M2

I want to go once a week

because I'm not using

that thing for speed

yeah that's

that is the one

that I've got

I believe

not that one obviously

but the same shape as that

the 351

I think they got

facelifted the year after

it's still quite strong on them

I also don't tell Rory

nobody tell Rory I said this

because he owns one

but I do find them

I think they're really attractive cars

I think they are

I don't mind about this

yeah that Jen

I just think they're

it's mainly when I see

what in the series

because in series

they still put

prime ministers and you know

whatever's in them

every time I see them on screen

I'm like yeah

James Bond used it in the

I think it was

kind of which

I think Skyfall had it

Skyfall thank you very much

when the train comes

through the

through the ceiling

and then they get in one

and they twat a curb

as it power slides out

and somehow it doesn't buckle the wheel

which is incredible

and he just nows it up the road

and I was like that

he's gangsta

it's something to be

it's one of the few things

that make you proud to be British

yeah yeah

even though it's Indian

which is

the French engine though

surely

it's something we get

comments on quite a lot

because we've been doing

quite a good bit of American

car stuff recently

is it the American

it's one of the first things

the Americans will make fun of us for

they'll be like

those broken Jags dude

you can't make fun of us

you got those shitty Jags

no man

they're cool

I get it

I get the reliability thing

they can't even say the word right

tell them to

but that is a little bit

supercharged Jack

if anything an American

to be fair we saw a few in Monterey

I saw more than I was expecting

obviously because it's the U.S.

they're not buying the diesel

they're all rocking around

in a V8 something

yeah it was at 5.0L

NA they have

5.0L NA on all the

reindrovers and the supercharged

like we spoke to someone who had

the was it an Alforo 5

the newer reindrover

and if you see one here

it's diesel

it's a diesel

and this supercharged

we tell them about diesel

they're like what

why don't you buy one of those

where do you boys sit

on fast SUVs

I think there is a

there is a baseline speed

at what a SUV should be

yeah and

but I think an 8.0L

fast SUV is unnecessary

I think they are

dumb

and there's no reason for them

but I absolutely love them when they exist

I'm a bit of a crossroads with it

because I wanted the X5M

just to say

it was an X5M

it was a nothingness reason

it's a stupid arrogant

justification

little dick swinging

yeah exactly

I like the

I've lost track a little bit with

the reindrover now

but they do

I want to say it's an SV all-tubography

and it's a big boy engine

but it's meant for wafting

not driving fast

not cornering fast

and I struggle with the

SVR

because they all love to tell you

that it will keep up with the mini GP

round the circuit

I'm like don't care

because it's not for that

if I want to go fast

I'd probably go for the GP

it won't be very fun

that for me is the exact thing

with the reindrovers

if you show me an SVR

congratulations

please enjoy your

on the ring road of Bradford

yeah

but the autobiography SV

which is essentially the same engine

that's great

yeah that's allowed in there

you can also tell normally

that there's a big difference in who buys the SVR

just look at the spec of an SVR

bright blue

blue

yeah have

quilted leather seats

and it will be the worst possible spec

then you get one of those

and it might have the 5-litre supercharged

but it will be delightfully spec'd

was this recent taken party X in

£48,000

because I was about to inquire

on this car

here we go let's have a look

it's

well I don't even hear the website

it was on their Instagram

but it's a sold

but it's POA on there

let's have a look

we'll do

I really like this

this generation of

they took an SV

sorry there's just the other

side of it for

yeah

there are two different cars

all I typed in

was Range Rover SVR

I didn't search for like a bad one

that's just what comes up

when you search for the basis

what I

the one you were on before

this I believe

only a couple of months ago

they

they took in an SV

autobiography

part exchange

presumably

and it went up for £48,000

and I was

it was a 19 plate on low miles

and I was like

that is a cool thing

and we were looking to buy

Natalie a new car

for sort of 40 to 60 grand

and I was like

that is King of the Road

sold it to Natalie

she didn't love it

because it was petrol

but I was like

no no no

it's cool enough

and I would love

to buy a car from Tom Hartley

just to say you have

honestly he could charge

next to £5,000

just to say I picked it up

saw Lenny Howlett of

Urban

at Goodwood Festival of Speed

and I went

I'm going to go and have a look at this

and he went

do an insurance quote

because of that

because he said

older stuff

you're okay with

newer stuff

you're okay

he said that is peak

you're getting it nicked

do an insurance quote

did

£9,000

and I was like

I'm not buying that car

because that bill doesn't go down

every year

that's going to stay where it is

if not get worse

and I was gutted

because I was like

the money's right

the person's right

I'd even swallow the MPG

because Natalie doesn't do a lot of miles

but £9,000

insurance

at that price

I'd actually like it to get stolen

please

give me some value

let me have it for a couple of months

and then off it goes

wake up one morning

thank you

just leave it outside

unlocked

keep it on the dash

take it

also it would never get stolen

never get stolen

yeah

Ranger was a deal with that reputation

even mine

which is obviously an older one

but because it's one of those

it's like a keyless

it doesn't have a keyless entry

but it's a keyless start

right

the insurers go well

hang on

someone's nicking that

and I go no one's nicking

the 4 grand Range Rover

the 4.4

yeah

no one's stealing that car

I hope they won't steal that car

it's probably not outside anymore

no it's gone

if anyone has

what is your shape

Range Rover called

L322

if anyone has

an L322 Range Rover

in the 4.4 V8 diesel

it's here though right Wells

yeah

I would like it in black

with black leather

and you want to sell it to me

for less than ten

and it's worth

the money you're asking

please email me

because I want to sell my

Jag

because of the lack of fuel economy

and I want to get that Range Rover

because Clarkson's made me

want to buy one

to be honest

as well

I'm an early L322 guy

I'm a mid-facelift guy

that's the looking one for me

I was never a fan

of the facelift like Wells

having been in that car a lot

and driving Wells a lot

that is ultimate car

as best car

just does everything

and when I say that

I mean in not in terms of

no no

you own the best car

no no

but that is the best car person's car

the Range Rover

is the best car

if you ask someone

who has no idea

anything about cars

you put them in L322

you put them in every other car on Earth

I reckon nine times out of ten

they say that car is the best one

because it's the biggest

softest, nicest, brickeest

just perfect thing

it doesn't offend anyone

no it's class look

but at the same time

high class

it's incredible

that is such an important thing

for a car to do

the class that like the Golf does it extremely well

Tesla does it extremely well

and that

it's not old money

it's not new money

it's just

oh that's cool

that's so nice

so hard for a car to do

yeah

but then at the same time

anyone that does know

a little bit goes

I wouldn't have one of those

mate you're going to spend a little time

at the repair shop

it's

but meanwhile

how many miles have you done now

I'm 20,000 miles deep in that car

I'm about

about

not even a year

and yeah

I mean it's not left me broken down yet

we shouldn't have said that

shouldn't have said that

I can't wait for my long evening

I crossed everything

just before you said that

but I would recommend one

I definitely would

V8 Volt

I would have a look at

their cars are more expensive

but they have some immaculate specs

okay cool

the Queens one

sold

that wasn't a

that was a super charge right

so the Queen had a Range Rover

also

so we saw this on

Silverstone Auctions

now iconic auctioneers

I think it is

Queens Range Rover

pictures of her getting in

and out of it

she drove it

blah blah blah

Aintree Green

Northside

I don't know

156,000 miles

120,000 miles

I couldn't believe that

I thought where was she going

yeah

did she have a community

was she

going and getting up out of

was she just

up and down pow-mow

Scotland doing that

Balmoral's

awfully far away

Balmoral to Windsor

every day

yeah

but the thing the estimate

I want to say was like

65 to 70k

which bearing mind

a super charge Range Rover

like that

is probably worth about

I don't know

what three four grand

three four pounds

most people would be

scared stiff

the idea of buying a cheap

high-mild

high-ish mile

super charge Range Rover

that's old

for 175,000

175 grand

sorry just to see

can you see what's on the

bonnet

it's not

who's going to pull her over

she's not getting pinched

now it's not prowler

or sure it growler

but what

is that dog

yeah that is a dog

actually

you know what

now I've seen that

I can actually tell that

story

now I was probably

18 or 19

oh you've seen the

I have seen

I saw the Queen's Growler

in Slough

now I'm sure Peter Stringfellow

had something to do with that place

obviously Slough is not far from

Windsor

where Windsor Castle is

and I used to live in Slough

and I was

there was a big roundabout

that used to have a big

Honda logo on it

that some people might know

and I was at the lights

at this roundabout

I looked to my right

green Range Rover

I actually didn't think much

of Range Rover's back then

and I looked to my right

and what I could see

was the bonnet

and I saw this thing on the bonnet

I was like

what an idiot

because I saw that

on the bonnet

I thought that was horrible

which is a statue of a dog

that you can't see

you put that on your Range Rover

and I looked at the driver

and the driver was gloves

it wasn't easy

and I looked in the back

and she screamed

no

the Queen

was just

I almost had heart failure

I was like

that's the Queen

going down

Euros needed a spare bag

you know this one's

back left

starting to go

now I've seen that

I'm 100% sure

that could

unless there may be multiple

I don't know

have that same

also Vogue SE

you know

she could have done better

it's not a Westminster is it

she just saw

a special edition

and thought

that's the one I want

little did she know

that

two things

I wanted to talk about

with Royal cars

£175,000

that's a lot

that's a lot of money

but

if I'm in Arab

and I've got

unlimited money

I'll give you a million quid

for the Queen's old car

in the same breath

Diana's RS Turbo

I thought that was going to be

a £100m thing

just because

somebody got

I want that

and I don't need to worry about money

and I remember it said

for like 700,000

I think

too cheap man

but these reserves higher

because

there are people out there

with eye water

and money

I'm talking to you

RM Sotheby's

or whoever auctioned it

Silverstone sorry

that

is

arguably

the most important thing

in a petrol heads world

to do with the Royal Family

£175,000

is dirty dirty cheap

triadre

well we

the funny thing is

I

so one of my obsessions

is the Brunei Royal Family

and they bought

the sums has never discussed

but they bought

one of the original

Batmobiles from the movie

and they also bought

basically every

succeeding

Formula One car

Ferrari Formula One car

from the 80s 90s

that won a race

as in

the race winning one

would go to Brunei

and the amount of money

that was apparently

exchanged for them

was obscene

also the

so the RX 7

from Tokyo Drift

like an actual one

sold for what nine

eight nine hundred

about a million dollars

it was basically

and then that goes for

so that is a bargain

you'd think some rich pervert

would just want to sniff

the seat

I just

growl

sniff the growl

I've got the Queens growl

in there

I beg your pardon

excuse me

I've just got

the Queens growl

for a bargain price

of £175

the YouTube title already

you've got to get the YouTube channel going

we should have bought it

because

we just liquidated all of them

£170 grand

liquidated everything here

and then taken out

the biggest loan

to get the Queens Ranger

over then turbo it

I really want to see

I want to see what condition it's in

I just want to see

if she took care of her car

well no the rear bumper

was hanging off

because one of my friends

went and saw it

in real life

and apparently the rear corner

yeah it was

maybe the clips

had just come undone

or something

we're not sure

but yeah it wasn't immaculate

I want to know

who looked after it

I want to know everything about it

I want to know

was it just sent to like

a quick fit

or did Land Rover do it

I want to know

if the Queen

was the Queen

coming to you

ever at the side of the road

with a JLR warning

bomb going off

in the background

was it

she's like

Queen's in the back

the air suspension

is completely deflated

they're scraping along the floor

the Queen's flipping

through the handbook

in the glove compartment

going it says here

that I must just

reset the procedure

it just sounds good to extended mode

it should refill

and Traxxas food is easy

I've put an invalid mode

now it won't go anywhere

it's stuck

that's great

we should have bought that really

also ultimate thing is to buy that

just use it

the guy with the Rolls Royce

tow car

there you go

that

better purchase

you're right

there is a chance as well

if you pulled up

to Buckhouse

on the right day

with the oldest security guard

he'd recognise it

and just open the door

and then you're in

wear a little tea towel

on your head

some sunglasses

because you know

she used to have the

seat out

yeah yeah

Charles would look out the window

hang on

money

I'm about to lose my seat

she's back

where's the photo

there was another photo

in here somewhere

of her in it

of her

I actually can't believe

I've seen this car up close

I should have

when we got

that's not the queen

that feels far fetched that photo

there you go

I think they could have had a better one

yeah it's got to be a better photo

it's like when you buy

when you see ex-police cars for sale

they've got a photo of the police car

in active duty

yeah

but it's always from too far away

that's just a paparazzi photo

you know when people like

sign memorabilia from like

like a footballer

and they go oh here it is

here's a picture of the footballer

yeah yeah

there's no picture of him signing it

he's got a picture of it

yeah I've always wondered that

that doesn't prove anything

yeah that's him

I just googled it

yeah

it was just this

but it was just a mugshot of the queen

yeah that's the queen

yeah

that's it

it's green

that's what gave the RS Turbo value

for me is there is a picture of her

yeah

getting out of it

yeah

with the play looking mega

and ordinarily

this is the worst part about

buying famous cars

and we had this experience firsthand

the Neo brothers

who we bought the Saab from

mm

for a good year 18 months after it

it was oh that's a Neo brothers car

and I'm like no

it's ours

yeah

we bought it

but

and you have that

if you buy a modified car

that was quite popular once

upon a time

it's always the previous owner's version

yeah

whereas if somebody goes

was that the queens

fuck yeah it was

yeah

I call it that

no no it's just mine

yeah

is that

And then I watched the, I watched with my boys

cause my boys love YouTube and the stuff they watch,

I don't want to watch.

And the stuff I watched, they don't want to watch,

but we found Whistling Diesel.

Anyway, and watch the Ferrari one.

I want to say it's the F8.

Yeah.

Thanks Bones down.

Yeah.

Bones down, yes.

Watch that, loved it.

I was like, that is such a cool thing

that you've got that much money.

It was fuck you money.

Yeah.

But then I watched the R32 GTR.

Yeah.

And I was gutted and I tell you for why,

because that is a little bit of a dream car.

And you can't buy them anymore.

You can buy G-Wagons.

You can buy it for a,

and I was a little bit like,

oh, I don't know where that sits with me.

Now I know I sound old and boring and miserable

and he has got enough money, he can do whatever he wants.

But I was a bit like,

I don't even care about Japanese cars,

like in the slightest, but that one I was like,

oh, I wish he didn't.

I wish he'd done it to the new GTR.

Cause you can go buy another one of them.

But it's funny, cause that's why he's so successful

in how divisive he is.

Because the people who would get upset about the Ferrari,

who are like a young super car enjoyer,

would go, who cares about an old Nissan, man?

You were destroying a Ferrari last week.

That was real pedigree money or whatever you want to say.

But they would go, I don't care.

The one that he did get a lot of stick for was the Model T.

He ruined a Model T.

I'm not saying that.

I'll watch that with a voice.

It's very, I think it's very short

cause it didn't last very long.

But a lot of people were literally like,

yeah, okay, fine.

But that's just an old, like,

of course you were going to be like,

it's like beating an old man up.

Yeah.

Come on, man.

God, they put him in the rig.

Just beat him to death.

We knew that was gonna happen.

He just knew it was gonna happen.

But yeah, it's an interesting niche

that no one's ever done before.

And supposedly, hold on.

Right now, I'm gonna get a quick check.

He said at 10 million,

he would be buying a Bugatti Veyron.

Or he just said Bugatti.

Bugatti, so he could buy any of you want to.

He is at 9.99 still.

That was another note, sorry.

This was from the M2 man earlier.

I've only just remembered this point.

He had some Bugatti shoes on.

Oh, I didn't see that.

I did have Bugatti shoes on anyway.

I didn't see that.

The one thing I've just realized,

as I said it out loud,

is had he not of smashed up those GTRs,

we might not have mentioned.

You mentioned him and Fairview brought him in conversation.

But it did make me realize who he is.

So it did work.

Of course, yeah.

Yeah, sorry.

I've just literally just worked that out in my head.

Sorry.

But yeah, it's his entire thing.

It's weird.

I kind of dropped onto doing kind of weird stuff recently

that's not as, I think maybe, I don't know,

maybe the views to investment ratio is changing.

But I think especially that G-wagon one is,

if you haven't watched, he's durability tests them,

but by doing dumb stuff.

Was that the one that you watched

where he jumped it on the sand dunes?

Yeah.

That to me is the perfect advert for a G-wagon ever.

I started the video thinking,

stupid, dumb thing.

I don't care.

And came out the other side going,

that is an incredibly impressive, very cool thing.

I think you drive it around for another few weeks after it,

just beating it around.

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than the OES?

Yeah, yeah.

Because the Skoda Yeti, helicopter on the roof.

Yeah.

Skoda are never doing that.

Yeah.

And that, you're right.

That gave, I was like, Jesus Christ,

these Joe Wiggins are amazing.

And the Ferrari, fair play to it.

Like that took a beating as they broke down

and obviously Top Gear of yesteryear.

They always used to say that

when we're the three sub 10 grand supercars they bought

and they just didn't work.

Yeah.

You fast forward another 30 years.

These Aventadors and Hurricanes

are gonna be plugging along.

Like it is a great testament

to what supercars are now capable of.

They're not the fragile things

they were once upon a time.

They're pretty golfs.

Yeah.

Which I guess is what you were talking about it.

When you watch the old Top Gear

and they were saying, was it the Masialaga they were saying?

That it was like, it just feels very Volkswagen.

Yeah.

They'll say that and the Gallardo as well.

They were saying the Gallardo, it doesn't,

it just looks boring.

They were saying, I can't remember what Clarkson

exactly said, but he said, in not at a picnic,

you want the Italians to do the food

and the Germans to make the hamper.

And he said, in this case,

the Germans have made us a food.

But now you look at a Gallardo and go,

that looks incredible.

Unbelievable.

What was the previous generation?

The Diablo.

Diablo was prior to the Masialaga.

So I get it, it's not as wild as that,

but it has aged very well.

And also like even to drive,

it didn't feel, it felt strong

and like a solid car you could use every day,

but it didn't feel like I was in a golf.

No.

I always felt like I was in a very special thing.

Whereas I think if you drive a Huracan,

you'd have a different,

you'd have a, you'd go,

actually this is very easy to drive

and everything just works

and all these buttons work

and there's no,

the pedals are in the right place,

the steering wheel's in the right place.

Whereas in both the Gallardo and the Masialaga,

nothing was like that.

Is there any super car you've ever,

you're like, I like that super car?

Or are you mainly like a,

an M car, an AMG?

So showing me age a bit now,

I've got a real soft spot

in the last 12 months for a 458.

We talk about them often.

Yeah.

Love them.

GT3, slash GT3 RS.

That's because the ring is such an influential place.

But the, I've always hated Ferrari,

everything about them.

And then when, oh, beautiful.

When Lewis Hamilton joined,

again, I don't care about Formula One,

but when he joined

and there was the picture of him outside Maranello,

the gangster with the F40.

Yeah.

Such a cool picture.

I love the fact they didn't use the SP3

or something new wave.

Such, and in such a turning point

in my perspective of gangster,

so-called that was such a turning point

in my perspective of Ferrari

that I then started looking at 458s.

I was like, what money are they?

And they're like 100 to 120.

So GT3 money, age well, naturally aspirated V8,

cool thing,

but I wouldn't want to go lapping in it.

I would want to go around the Alps in it.

I want to do, I want a GT in it.

It will always be a GT3

for between 100 and 150 will be a GT3

and 150 over would be a 997 3RS.

But yeah, for sort of hopefully

within the next couple of years

would love a 458.

Yeah.

They are probably a convertible.

The I'm on British.

The buttress of those, of the convertibles looks,

and I'm a non red Ferrari person.

So the convertibles tend to look even better.

Like we got the, there's the silvery blue color

on the 458 spiders that look lovely.

It's also, it's aged really well.

But again, if you'd said that like 10 years ago,

a convertible 458 was rental car spec.

It's like, okay, you've rented it.

It's a wedding or it's hard,

but now just also just a great engine.

I would love to drive one.

And the 488, I know is a lot, lot better,

but you lost the noise a lot.

Didn't you with the turbos?

And the noise, I will tell this story

until I'm old and the noise,

you can forget how important it is.

And I got firsthand experience of where we are,

where we're going and where we've been

in the F80 Ferrari came up the hill of Goodwood.

V6, Mild Hybrid, and it, there was a noise.

There was a noise, but it wasn't amazing.

I had the exact same thing at Goodwood.

Yeah, did you?

Yeah, and I was actually,

I was waiting for the Huayra R.

That's what came past next.

And the goose bump, I remember Mexican wave of goose bumps

went through me and I was sad

because I was like that, the F80 is a special car.

I think it looks incredible and that's cut in edge

and it, but then that,

I was like, we're never gonna get that again.

And I was sad because what really annoys me

with automotive journalists when they badmouth

electric cars is you need to change the vocabulary.

You know, you need to find what's new and exciting.

But then, and sorry, this is the most important part,

a hydrogen car came past

and it was 80% of the Huayra and I was like,

I can live with that for a future type of car.

I'm okay with that.

I don't want it to be that of the F80 V6 hybrid thing,

but the hydrogen, I'm like, yeah,

strapping because I'm okay with that

as a greener version of the internal combustion engine.

To me, the experience of a car,

I reckon at least 50% of it is the noise to me.

I fully agree.

I could be swayed on a car that has a supposedly bad chassis

or whatever or all the seating positions bad or whatever.

But if it makes an incredible noise, I could be sold on it.

The Mustang we drove, the like GT350 rep,

that it like doesn't drive particularly well.

It's a 60s car, but it made the most batshit noise.

Whereas if that was silent or was way quieter,

you can't have that, it's pretty rough.

But yeah, noise for me is I saw the exact same thing.

It was, and also I think before the F80, a 296 went,

which is the sort of smaller,

I don't even know where it falls in there like sort of thing,

but also similar engine V6.

And if I close my eyes and I heard both those cars go,

I couldn't differentiate them.

And that I thought, that's not good.

As a kid, if there are kids watching that F80 go,

they're not going to go, hell, I need one of that.

Like they're not going to grow up and go, I need one of those.

Whereas if you watch a Ferrari go on Enzo go 10, 20 years ago,

you'd go, right, give me the poster.

Give me it in the game.

I need that as my wallpaper.

I think the other thing is go 20 years back.

There's nothing that's driving the streets normally

that can get close to the hypercar noise.

Nothing was driving around that sounded like a Carrera GT

or an Enzo.

But now when an F80 drives past that is straight piped,

I'm not saying it's a great noise,

but you know about it and you go, wow, okay, crazy noise.

And then an F50 goes past, you're like,

that sounds quite quiet, actually, in comparison.

But go back 30 years and everyone will go, yeah.

The only, I've just think in this, as you've said it,

fast forward 20 years,

if 90% of the cars on the road are electric.

Yeah.

That is going to sound better.

I was talking, yeah.

I've never thought of that before, actually.

Oh yeah, maybe I'm wrong.

Because we were...

It's like a horse come down the street.

It was during Supercar Driver.

We'd packed up and we were leaving

and we'd been waiting for the whole IRR

and it never came round.

And as we were in the infield right in the middle

and there were things going past,

you could tell it was generic noise.wav.

You know, there was a hurricane in the background.

There was a something.

And then all of a sudden, as we were getting in the car,

we just heard that how

and Will instantly went, I'm going back in.

Yeah, I did, I did.

But that is, that's it.

There's a sensory thing

that it just tingles your brain that goes,

yeah, that's it.

That's the best.

That's the best thing.

That is, that's, yeah.

Noise is for me.

Again, maybe that's because I'm simple.

And maybe it's because I'm not intelligent enough

to appreciate the fact that my ball joints are new

and all that stuff.

But noise for me, I reckon you could influence

a lot of people by making a car.

Like the, there's a really like,

relatively famous video of the Zonda.

So when the Zonda F, I think it was, came out.

There's a video, I think Harry Metcalf

was there for, I can't remember,

that when they revealed it,

they just took it out on the street

and showed all the potential buyers.

They're like, right, we're going to the Zonda lawn.

It's such a good video.

And they're rather going, right, here's the Zonda

under a cover.

Oh, how shiny it is.

Look at this carbon.

It's just them nailing it up and down the street.

And if you're a millionaire, I'm going, I need that.

Yeah.

If that sounds like that, sign me up.

They told the millionaires to go and stand on a,

like a quite a tight Italian.

It's like a-

There's cars on the side.

There's cars on the other side.

It's like a normal English street.

And it's just Horatio Pagani sending it up and down

and then doing a little burnout.

Yeah, he doesn't spin it.

You can hear it flies down the road.

Don't you hear, whoo, whoo, whoo.

And then he just takes it down the road.

I was like, you know what?

As a, you know, million people thinking about marketing

and how to do it,

he sold all those on the refs that evening, probably.

You've also just reminded me of Boeing.

They, I can't remember which aircraft it was.

I think it was the 737.

They had a load of airlines come to show them

their new products.

And rather than doing features and benefits,

they just did a barrel roll.

Everyone was like, well, that's cool.

We've all been there.

We've never seen a console.

Just looking around at the other companies.

Come on, what are you gonna do?

This is it.

So if you're not a visual viewer,

so this is like 2000 and I want to say it's like seven or eight.

But it is just the car.

Simply just flying up and down the road.

Well, clearly, businessmen and millionaires are just,

are just standing by.

But just flying up.

Not even a closed road, a track.

Just, he's doing skids.

That is, you know what?

Horatio Vagani one day.

We'd have to learn.

What a hero.

We'd have to learn Italian for him to speak to anyone.

Although, you know what?

I'm gonna apply it to them.

I'm gonna apply that same logic the next time I sell a car.

And I don't think I'll sell it though.

Can I make, honestly?

Look, just watch me fly up and down the street.

I'm gonna burn out at the end.

They go, do you know what?

I think I'll leave this one.

I'll pay for you to feel for coming, sorry.

I think, well, that's all it.

That's everything we have questions why.

Is there a forum or anything like that?

No, we'll ask the forum.

I think we are also coming up in two hours.

Oh, there we go then.

Really?

Hey, the first of, well, we have to come back.

We'll do another one, wait so much to talk about.

You know, when we've maybe improved on our fuel can a little bit.

Yeah, we might.

So, one thing I needed to add.

I was a hot mess coming down here.

I had gifts for you, which are left in the van.

So, your can is the best can ever,

but you will have your own can very, very soon.

No way.

Yes, I am so sorry.

Oxford Green can coming soon.

Oh, I'd love to do that.

That is cool.

Oh, really?

Oh, you know, in the back of my throat,

I thought 50 went, someone sells one that's crashed this.

Yeah, thank you very much for listening.

Please go ahead and follow, what are the social,

if you want to plug both socials?

Hopefully, if I've done my job right,

if you just type in STGA on any platform,

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That's quite cool.

That's actually really quite cool.

Because no other word is spelt like that.

It's the marketing, the smartest marketing move of all time.

The smartest marketing person

is now going to make an Instagram page called STJ,

something else.

Yeah, you're right.

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