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I called you bold multiple times.

Across the last two or three months, I have been noting the boldness.

Yeah.

You're absolutely oiling that guy something silly.

You don't actually need a dip with popcorn chicken either.

The flavor is inherently in the crumb.

Yeah, I can't wait to get home and have a couple of Stellars, man.

Hello, and welcome back to the CREAM podcast, The Cars Rule Everything Around Me podcast with

myself, Will, Edwin to my right, and Benjamin behind the camera over there.

Now, we start every single one of these podcasts by asking ourselves, because rule of ruin

everything around us this week, Edwin, would you like to kick us off?

It is uneventful, so I'm going to call it a rule.

But at the same time, I haven't bought a car, I still haven't bought a daily, so I'm

quite annoyed and upset.

Ben has been saying he's worried about you.

Yeah.

Because you're not yourself.

It feels wrong.

You're not you and your hunger, isn't it?

Literally that.

But we'll call it a rule.

Nothing's happened.

Sorry.

There's nothing to...

Actually, that's not true.

So sorry.

Lies.

The Evo.

I sold the Evo.

So the Evo I finally got working, we put a video out, obviously I said on the podcast

to loads of people, don't message me beforehand.

I'm not selling it to you beforehand and then sold it beforehand.

So some people were salty, I sold it to my friend before the video kind of even went live.

Shout out Will, not this one, different one.

He said, you know what?

I actually really want that.

So thankfully for me, for my bank balance, he has bought that car.

So I'm going to get an MOT for him and then he'll drive it through the winter,

which is interesting.

So there might not be an Evo left.

Yeah.

You picked an old Japanese car for a winter meter.

I have been allowed the fact that I can buy it back, which is something I've been genuinely...

That's the thing I was most upset about.

Edwin Klinkensberg is pleased to announce a buyback cause in Evo I's contract.

So I want that car back and to do it properly and do big power at some point.

So yeah, rule.

Sad.

And genuinely sad.

But rule.

Fair.

I don't want to probably say rule as well, but again, there's not much.

Although actually first cars, we have started on that recently.

Yeah.

We talked about it at Retro Power.

We're still quite sorry, but also it was funny.

It was funny.

It was great.

But we just started working on the Fiesta today and we test fit wheel, which is just

down here.

If you can't see it and you're listening, there's a Compromotive MO wheel here,

which is far too big and far too wide for a car with 70 horsepower, but they look

should I?

The nuts.

Shout out for the audio listeners.

Do you want me to just describe it?

Oh, please.

Imagine.

Okay.

A wheel.

Yeah.

A bit wider than usual.

Silver.

Six.

Just confirming.

Six.

Yep.

Didn't want to trust you.

I just want to say no.

It's called an MO6.

Four.

Man.

Oh, six.

That's the one.

Also, just a quick shout out.

Not sponsored.

We paid for these wheels, but Compromotive best wheel round on earth.

It was very nice when I sent the email and I said about TDC and they were

like, oh yeah, I've heard of you guys.

Please.

Oh yeah.

Edwin's bought a T-shirt from us at some point.

Yes.

Hey, come on.

Compromotive make really cool like rally style wheels.

They fit on a lot of like EVOs and Cosworths and that kind of ilk of automobile.

And these are really cool.

Really nice concave, nice little bit of dish.

They're going to look really, really cool in the fiesta.

So that's one reason to rule.

Tomorrow going to SPR to hopefully start on, well, I won't have a look at the clutch

being started on the Glado, which is very, very cool.

I cannot wait to get that back.

I may get the McGann back.

Who knows?

Who knows at some point.

It may return.

I forget that thing exists.

And then I still have a conundrum and I don't quite know how to solve it between

the CEL 500 and the Range Rover.

Yeah.

I just like you've just gone for those.

I'm letting time do it.

That isn't how you're meant to do it because the Range Rover is getting

closer to an MOT in December, but also the CL is in January.

So I might just get to a point where none of them have an MOT.

So you have to buy another?

Yeah.

And I'm just in the Glado.

Welcome to the layer cake shop.

It will probably be the Range Rover going, but I need to sort a few bits on it.

It's one of those where I don't want to sell it as it is.

I only need to fix some bits, but yeah.

But overall, rule.

Benjamin.

Increasingly more common Ben ruin.

That's a classic.

You just knew it was going to happen.

Well, it hadn't been when I bought the S2000, but it has been for a few

weeks now.

So how long ago did you buy the S2000?

The date today.

Did you buy it?

I haven't seen it.

You've bought an S2000.

The date today is, as we saw in the 10th of November.

So I've had that car for one month and six days.

Okay.

And you've driven it for how many days?

One.

I haven't had my car back yet.

It's been delay after delay on parts and crusty Japanese cars.

You're up to your eyes and crusty jugglers.

Actually, I'm.

Yeah.

So I'm waiting for that back now.

This week is the week.

No, I think you said that last week.

But yes, we could only hope.

It's been a fault of no one.

It's actually just the fact that it's Japanese and old.

We're cutting off drop links where we're back.

We're heating up bolts.

You don't want to do that.

You want to put them on.

Yeah.

So new ones are going in our bushes and all kinds of all kinds of stuff.

I'm sure I'm sure everyone is fed up with that car, but I would like it.

So hopefully this week.

The thing I keep thinking though is you've got it is because we still have

more fettling to do with that car is that I don't want you to get it back

and be like, it's done.

And then you have to do some more work on it.

But it will at least be drivable.

That was a real.

What else does do to it?

What is that?

No, it's in like just getting the getting the fitment checked.

Yeah.

Make sure it doesn't rubbing so that you can, you know, beat the eggs out of it.

That's the one.

Yeah.

Whisk those guys.

It was last week.

Didn't have for daily as well.

Now, which I'm glad to say.

I've been looking forward to getting on to this one.

This one's been going off.

No, no.

Because so originally when we're going to go to RetroPower,

we thought it was just going to be the three of us and Callum.

And then thankfully right right at the end as we're about to start

the podcast, Nat Callum's brother who also runs RetroPower was like,

Oh, no, I'm around.

I can do it.

I got benched.

So Ben got benched.

But much to Ben's happiness because perhaps 20 minutes to now call it an hour beforehand,

we went to leave the main RetroPower unit and go to their side unit.

Firstly, we discovered well drawn penises all over our cars, which was yours.

Not mine.

No, you were parked down.

But I don't think you about your car.

Yeah.

My car's been on the channel.

Oh, OK.

Literally on the channel.

Was it?

Yeah.

Sorry.

I forgot you don't watch that channel.

Well, we'll get on to that.

It's because we were parked by the front door and apparently they said,

Yeah, no, they, they, if the guys like you,

you will get penises drawn on your car.

Yeah.

So I had them.

I didn't actually know, but they were all over my number plate.

Ben had it all over his real window.

So Ben was some statements as well.

Yeah.

Nice.

I was more confused because I didn't know this.

I had no idea.

No, we wouldn't.

We wouldn't do that.

Oh, you didn't.

I had no idea it was going to happen.

I just thought it was a bit,

but interesting.

Ben wasn't happy.

I wasn't unhappy.

I'm up for a bit of banter.

I'm up for a cock as much as the next one.

Yeah.

Because mine had some statements written on the back alongside the drawings.

I didn't know about Edwin's ones.

And then we had, I followed Edwin.

And my headlights illuminated his number plate.

And it also did a couple of penises as well.

Yeah.

I didn't know either.

And then straddling it like a TV logo.

We had it here, the E36.

And there was obviously one they draw on the back window,

but the way that it had been drawn,

the rain had just,

there was drops of rain all around it.

And it had shaped out the drawing.

It was a ghost penis.

Yeah.

It was quite interesting.

Anyway, an aside,

because of that fact,

it's actually quite helpful from the guys at Retro Power

because you started looking at the back of your car

and you happen to lean down

and see your rear tires, Ben.

And what sort of condition were they in?

If they were a person.

Oh, they'd be me these days.

Would it be Vin Diesel or the Rock?

Yeah.

Oh, sorry.

Would it be smooth?

They'd be, yeah.

I've actually never seen chords poking out of Vin Diesel's head,

though, so.

No.

And a couple of heads.

Now.

Ronaldo.

I want to preface this by saying that,

is this worse?

I don't know.

But I did know the tires were getting low.

And it was on my list of things to change.

But the thing is,

is that two things that didn't link up my brain

with the fact that

you need to do your tires as a person that doesn't know

amount of mileage is fine.

You need to do your tires doing a week or so.

For me,

driving the amount of mileage that we're driving for work,

it goes quicker.

If only it could have been spotted earlier.

Also, if only there was a YouTube channel that we ran,

but we could work on cars.

Yeah.

We have access to things like that.

I mean, we have,

Who's that?

What are they called?

Is it a tire fitting machine?

Oh, that's it.

That's it.

And then there's also these,

there's really cool guys.

They're called tire streets, though.

Interesting.

So you just got in contact with them and said,

I just drove for the week.

No.

And Josh,

I'm going to say something right now and paid for those tires.

He's like,

I will use every millimeter.

No,

I won't actually say something because I'm,

I'm not,

I'm an idiot,

but I'm not a company.

I know it is a mistake.

And,

and I'll happily admit that it's a mistake.

And it was stupid.

And it gave me a lot of anxiety on driving back.

And it,

I totally admit that was a mistake.

But I,

I just put things off because that's just,

that's who I am.

Ben was in absolute panic stations because we were a hundred and

a hundred odd miles away from home.

Yeah.

The worst place because,

okay, fine.

If I'm at the unit,

like if we're here,

okay, fine.

We have worst case.

We have other cars that possibly could be used.

There's a train station that takes me,

you know,

it takes me back towards my house,

all of that.

We're in like Leicester.

I couldn't be further from her.

Like,

that's the farthest we've gone in the last month for work.

I was like,

great.

Ben was,

it was quite quiet.

I think you went outside to do it for a phone call.

It was quiet.

We weren't,

I think I might have a blowout.

I was like,

I don't think you'll have a blowout.

But I said,

I said,

admittedly,

your chances of a blowout have increased significantly.

I don't know why that's like you.

It's more than more so than normal driving.

Also,

Ben got quite shirty with us the next day.

He was like,

I don't need to be told.

You're not my parents.

You don't,

you don't need to lecture me.

The thing is right.

Is the,

believe it or not,

I'm an adult.

And as much as I know,

it comes from a place of,

because you guys care

and you don't want me to be an idiot and die.

I understand that.

But you have a habit of

performing me of things I know.

And it doesn't help

when I'm sitting there going,

yeah, I'm an idiot.

I'm really beating myself up.

And you go,

show up, Ben.

You are an idiot.

And that is stupid.

I know,

but what are you achieving here?

Let's get this out of the open.

The frustration from our point

is that that wasn't the first time

we'd ever said it.

On that,

on that tires.

Yes, it was.

No, Ben,

I called you bold multiple times.

Yeah.

I called you bold.

Two or three months.

I have been noting the boldness.

Yeah.

Two or three months.

I would say at least.

At least.

What last month?

What were you taking before?

At least the last month.

At least the month ago.

I do remember about a month ago.

I will admit this.

You pulled up there once

and I was like,

that was Monday of last week.

That was months ago.

No, that was Monday.

That was a week ago.

It was Monday.

Your tires are getting bold.

I'll give it another one.

I don't bring the camera

to get home with me

because it needs to be

the weight of the rear wheels.

Yeah.

Very funny.

The camera gear doesn't make it either.

But because last week

we had a lot of filming away

to be doing,

I had the camera gear with me.

So I pulled the car,

reverse the car up to these doors.

And as I was,

and this was before,

you guys got ahead of morning.

And as I was walking out,

I noticed that on one side,

particularly it was wearing.

So I said to Will,

when he came in,

that looks very bold.

I do remember about a month ago

Will making a joke about it.

It wasn't said in serious.

It wasn't said,

you need to do this.

It was said,

you know,

ha ha bold.

It's getting bold quicker than you'd like.

So it's worth,

you must have an issue.

Because for those who don't know,

if you have,

tires go bold.

Yeah.

Tires go bold,

things wear down.

But if they're wearing quicker

than they should wear,

then you may have an issue in the car.

And if you fit new tires,

you then will just

chew those tires up as well.

And it's a big guy.

Just like humans,

over time things go bold.

And if your alignment's out,

you go bold quicker.

I need to align the car.

Yeah.

That's fair.

So overall though,

you've got,

what happened was,

you ordered some new tires.

We got from the same place as the

Kapatos,

which is where the next

infringement, infraction came in.

Ben never watched the E55 episode

with the Kapatos.

I said,

I just can't.

I go.

You can't.

I don't like him.

I think maybe I'll just

mile each.

I don't know how I know it.

Or what they've seen,

you have to remember

then you say okay,

I'm Wei.

But I know this isn't

okay.

You think you might be

It's like if a movie comes out and you're on holiday, you can never watch that.

You are aware that because it's my job, I watch videos out of necessity, right?

Because it's my job.

Wow. So you wouldn't watch that video?

That's all right.

I don't go home in the evening, get into bed, get old cosy and put you guys on the TV.

You don't.

I hear enough of you all day.

Actually, last night I did watch an old video.

But I typically won't.

Were you in it?

No, it was the Race Across London.

I watched that.

I think it's a good video.

It still haunts me.

What was I say?

Sorry, no, I was away.

That was a week.

I was away and not on the podcast.

That video was quite last minute.

Let's admit it.

It went out.

It got filmed and went out when I was away.

And I didn't watch the draft edit because I was away.

And then when it went out, I just never ran to watch it.

No, I didn't watch that on the plane.

So I had no internet.

But so, look at that.

But anyway, we went to the same place and we got not a patos, but a...

Pace.

A impero.

He told us that the paces...

Hell, do.

So on they went.

And the meats.

And you know, it went well.

They do look chunky.

You've got.

They look chunky.

Ben opted not for the professional fitting service.

He went for the self-fitting service by us here.

Ben, how'd the bag go?

Um, it was...

I don't know how many times.

I don't know if it was how it fitted.

But I said to these guys, I was like,

Oh, I just had to like suddenly buy tires and you know,

I got the S2000 to pay for.

I was like, that's not...

Let's just fit in the unit.

I said to Ben.

Within seconds of fitting them, I was like,

I will pay.

I will pay whatever it takes.

That's why I did not do this.

I said to Ben.

I said, we are collecting these tires from a tire shop

who fit tires every day.

And you went, no, that's fine.

No, my point was fair.

My point was that it would take time out of our day,

which at the time I thought, yes, I know fair.

And it ended up taking a lot more time out of our day

to just fit it ourselves.

So...

Because it's a big tire.

You got the biggest tires out of any of us.

Yeah.

Those three.

You start one-fives?

Three-one-fives.

Crazy.

Was it 35, 20 or whatever?

Yeah.

The ridiculous size of rear wheel.

Yes, it's unnecessary.

Yeah.

Silly.

So anyway, that was that was a fun,

fun ruin.

Overall, it's a ruin for the week.

Yeah.

So very low wind.

Next week will be better for you, Ben.

I see better shores on the horizon for you.

I see a light at the end of the tunnel.

Next week you'll have an S2000,

and you'll still have rear tires.

Well, it's amazing.

When I get this 1000 back, I can then,

because the X5 does need a bit of stone to it,

I can then, because I can then get to work

without having to get the train.

It will be easy to do that.

So also that was good.

A little bit of therapy thrown in there.

There we go.

Yeah.

Sometimes it's a little bit of talk-out.

There was a comment recently.

I can't remember one of the most last two or three podcasts

where someone said,

that first 20 minutes was so nice.

Because it was, I don't actually remember what we were talking about.

We were all positive and happy.

We were all just being very positive and nice.

And now that, that I think was a,

it's got was a nice return to form.

I actually think that was relatively tame.

Yeah.

Oh yeah.

I think that was,

but it was a little bit of Benjamin Byrest.

But that's fine.

That's, that's why this podcast is here.

I love that movie.

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Necks and Dots.

There's lots of music on our list this week.

A neck dot.

Yes, there is many newses.

Now I put one in here,

and this was actually a little while ago,

and I don't know much about it.

NSX Resto Mod.

I might have anyone know anything.

I've pulled the photos up.

I can tell you nothing more.

It interested me because it is an NSX Resto Mod.

Okay.

That's interesting.

And then what are they doing with it?

I think what they're going to do is

they're going to restore.

Resto Mod and NSX.

And modify it.

Yes.

But so we're talking about a first-generation NSX,

but it's by JAS,

which is supposedly something to do with Pininfarina.

Is it?

Yes.

Now it's all coming back.

I don't know.

Yes.

I didn't put the story in.

Yeah.

So that's that.

Okay.

If you don't have any information.

Okay.

Well, how about I'm going to look it up.

I would love to blame that one on Ben.

But you know what?

That was a bit Ben.

Here we go.

Jazz Motorsport.

Derivative of the 1990s generation Honda NSX

will offer enthusiasts and collectors a modern definition

of the grand touring concept that underpins the NSX's DNA,

high performance, perfectly balanced and safe on the road,

yet equally at home on the track.

We've got no, no kind of mentions of any actual.

Because I don't know about engine,

but it says the engine will be an original NSX-inspired,

naturally aspirated V6.

But I think that mated to a six-speed manual transmission.

It's the auto one.

It wasn't at four-speed or something.

I think it's something horrible.

But it says an original NSX-inspired, naturally aspirated V6.

Ah, see, now that is, that's what I'm interested in,

because it's, it's, that's the thing with the rest,

rest of my stuff is what you're going to do with the engine.

Like there was that one with the 6R4 thing they did.

They put an Audi V6 in there.

Yeah.

They've built, not, it's kind of right,

but it's not really right.

But I'm interested to see more about that.

I mean, it's probably going to be a billion pounds.

And so supposedly it kind of looks like it's at least,

at least going to look like an NSX.

It's going to look like an NSX designed by Penfrina,

but dressed in a full carbon fiber body.

That was very interesting.

So that's going to be, it's going to be bread.

It's going to be like 300 or 400K.

It's going to be hundreds of thousands of pounds.

Yeah.

But the wheels.

Yeah.

The wheels don't look very tough.

Ben, as a, as you know, for the audio listeners,

you're always the.

Describe.

Yeah.

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Now, everyone listening,

I hope you're doing well.

Geez.

Please imagine a Honda NSX, a first generation one.

Now, imagine that was modern

on some pretty tough-looking wheels.

I mean, the body, the car's original.

It's an old car, still.

Is it?

Yeah, that's the old shape of NSX.

Yeah, it looks like the old car.

Is that what you're trying to say?

Yeah, so it looks like the old one.

And then add a couple of LEDs at the front.

Perhaps add a little, a little...

I'm in the wheels.

Scrub.

Oh.

Explained the wheels.

Oh.

This is like last week when I said,

explained what was on the screen.

You went, James Bond's hair

flails gently in the wind.

The wheels, they're kind of McLaren-esque, I would say.

Yes.

Bit of Lamborghini there.

Lamborghini Revuelto kind of feeling.

Imagine, okay, so five spokes that go halfway out.

Then off of each of those five spokes,

two V-shaped spokes.

They split out, yeah.

A Huracan, like an early Huracan wheel.

Or a Revuelto.

I think they've got those.

So that, I mean, that is, again,

that's some of the things Resto Mods are getting right.

If I was a Resto Mod company,

just get like T37s.

Well, also, there are so many companies,

I know, like Rims Carnated in the UK,

and then there was a company in America

called Augment Wheels

that will take your OEM original design

and either make it a bit more deep

or make it a size up with a bit more dish.

But it will keep the OEM style,

and it looks incredible.

Can't think of the name right now.

But in wheels?

That evolve.

Oh, has it a 1066?

That's the one.

1671?

Something like that.

It's a number, I believe.

But anyway, if you don't know,

he does lots of BMW stuff,

but he's made lots of BMW,

like a modern version or interpretation

of those wheels.

666, I knew there was numbers in there somewhere.

But some of those are really, really cool.

But some of them, they can be a little bit too big,

but some of them are really, really quite cool.

But that's where I think those Resto Mod companies

should do it because they suddenly go,

right, here's the car, the engine's all perfect.

They go, let's stick the worst wheels possible on them.

Let's go Brom Town massive wheels on them.

Let's go a wheel.

But they'll be magnesium or something.

Yeah, something like eight grand.

They'll be ridiculous.

But yeah, so that I'm quite excited for.

But again, it's another one of those things

that's going to cost a million pounds.

So yeah, oh well.

Now the next one.

Bro was disappointed.

Bro thought he was going to break out the checkbook.

Was it too cheap for you, Will?

Yeah, you know, silly, isn't it?

You know, Lamborghini ownership and all that.

Ben, you've put in here chicken nuggets,

really bringing the tone down.

You walk in nuggets, guys.

I've been staring at this message for weeks.

I was thinking this.

Chicken nuggets are the ultimate car food.

Oh, no, I don't know.

We had this conversation a quite a while ago.

Where we discussed what was the best food to eat in a car.

Now, as we have discovered,

you're not meant to eat anything while you're driving.

But chicken nuggets are the perfect thing.

No.

Now imagine this.

Stop, stop, both of you.

Alan Partridge has entered our podcast.

It's chops.

Chicken, chops.

Monday is minstay.

Chicken nuggets are the best in car food.

I'll tell you why.

Because they're quite dry and not greasy.

Wrong.

Stop speaking for a second.

I must describe my point,

and then you may have your defence.

Please, after you.

Your sauce pots can sit in your cupholders and not...

Why if you don't have cupholders?

Or if you're in a Lamborghini Gallardo.

Well, then, you know, you must get...

Well, you have dry chicken nuggets.

No, I can't. That's wrong.

I actually get minor dry chicken nuggets sometimes.

But here's what...

All right, Trump.

Depends on the temp.

Okay. Now, here's my question to you.

Where are you getting chicken nuggets

that are not oiling your fingers?

Not Donald's.

No, they're not oiling your fingers.

No, I'll tell you why.

I know they're a little bit crumbly as well.

They're not that clean to me.

No.

You know, I said the story of the last week.

Well, I worked on...

We were working on my mate, Sam's Integra.

Yes.

We went to Honour to get bits and we didn't have them.

On the way back, we got on McDonald's

because we were hungry boys.

We needed to fuel ourselves up.

You're working on cars.

He decided, I'm actually hungry.

I might get myself just some chicken nuggets.

Sure.

And as we're driving back, I just watched him.

And it was the perfect food to eat in the car.

What about, like, why are selects different?

Because selects are more crumbly than chicken nuggets.

Selects are more dry than chicken nuggets.

Chicken nuggets are inherently greasy.

Well, they're here because of my next point.

Okay.

Because a chicken nugget can be a one-bite item.

Therefore, you're not taking your eyes off the road

off the steering wheel for too long.

And a select, that's what we're talking...

But that's not my point.

We're talking two to three bites, maybe four, a big one.

My point is the grease factor.

Because if you're touching your steering wheel,

you're absolutely oiling that guy something silly.

But it's not that bad on a McDonald's chicken nugget.

Yeah, it is.

Nah, because they're not that bad.

I think they're better than something like a KFC.

Of course.

But there is still...

But my point is there is still a grease.

Take it over compared to the humble sandwich.

There's no grease coming from that.

A sandwich is how you end up with filling in your lap.

No, but then you just don't be a seven-year-old

who's just throwing their food around with that.

No, chicken nuggets are the way forward.

They fit in the center console.

In the center console, they fit really well as well.

I see a little bit.

A lolly.

Now, a lolly is dangerous.

Don't even need your hands.

No, if you crash...

Okay.

That's interesting.

If you crash, the lolly is going like,

it's dangerous.

Airbag hitting you in the face.

And a nugget can't do any damage.

But what I'm saying is a lolly is going to live in your mouth

the whole time.

A chicken nugget is a quick little pit stop

to the center console.

What if you choke on it?

Well, you might.

But we might choke on anything at that point.

You should eat in the car, is what we're learning.

Ben's a summary of the best food to eat in the car.

Ends up with don't eat in the car.

What's the name of something better than chicken nuggets?

Popcorn chicken.

Popcorn chicken is the same thing.

It's greasy, but it comes in a pot

that you can hold.

You don't actually need a dip with popcorn chicken either.

The flavor is inherently in the crumb.

But the McDonald's, the McDonald's 20 chicken nugget thing

comes in like an either a square or a rectangle.

How many chicken nuggets?

20 chicken nuggets, enough for a long journey.

Big box though.

You can tell so easily that we live on the road

and we spend our time driving around doing things

because we know every menu item.

Because the truckers will know.

The truckers will message.

Burgers are out of the question.

Burgers you can't be.

Burgers fair.

Hot dogs are really hot.

Hot dogs are bad enough at a table, let alone driving.

But what's on your dog?

Just a sausage.

Easy.

Sorry, have you ever raw dog the sausage in the car?

I haven't personally, but now I've just thought of it.

How easy would that be?

I like them glizzies that come in water.

You could get those.

What does that mean?

No, they're like the jars of sausage.

Okay, yeah.

Frank versus like a nuclear bunker type sausage.

Yeah, because you could burn the cup holder, whack one out.

Okay, just pour them in.

Just pour them into the cup holder.

And then when you get thirsty after your sausage,

you've got all the nice water in the jug to drink after.

That is a deep cut, if anybody knows that reference.

No, I don't believe there are many foods that I can't think of one off the top of my head.

Well, chicken nuggets?

No, I think there are lots of foods that sit on a plane.

I think we have to let the comments decide on this one.

Is a chicken nugget allowable in the car?

For me, it's not because you're greasing that steering wheel.

It's the dip for me.

The dip can sit in so many places in your car.

Also, a chicken nugget box, the shape of it.

Now, in my X5, I know this from research,

there is a, it depends on your cup holders.

Other cup holders are available.

You could pull the cup holder out.

The cup holder is two cup holders in a rectangle shape opening.

That rectangle shape opening is basically perfect from a Don's 20 chicken nugget.

Would you ever?

So you sit in there and they're just there.

Would you ever?

Greedy bastard.

20 chicken nuggets.

I got a towel commute.

That doesn't matter.

That's a lot of nuggets.

Yeah, but it's the best.

Is it not called a share box for a reason?

God, guys, I'm not calling you.

Oh, it's a chicken nugget.

No, you don't.

Why are you on your way home?

Are you taking home?

He's picking up on the way home.

I agree with that.

You could share the chicken nuggets.

I believe if you are just buying nuggets,

20 is the only number to go for.

If it's a side, you can pick one.

Oh, of course.

Yeah, but not getting like a burger as well on the side.

That is big.

All right, we're getting off topic.

Nuggets.

Would you put them loose in the cup holder?

Possibly a center console moment.

Now you lift the armrest up.

That is great.

Filled to the brim.

Please, mate.

I've put a fresh batch in there last week.

Seriously.

You said you would join a chicken nugget.

I mean, look around the car looking for chicken nuggets.

I need to find them full up in your armrest.

Go to the box open.

It's just full of chicken nuggets.

Your cooled armrest.

It's like just keep them cool in there.

All right.

Yeah, that was great.

Super is done, you say.

Yes.

You claim.

So the current generation Toyota Supra,

which actually has been around for a while now.

It has.

Because I remember, Edwin, you had one as a press car in 2021.

I've had two.

I had a long-term one, which was an early one, a gray one.

And then I had a manual one.

A blue one.

Yes.

A manual one.

I had a manual blue one.

Yeah.

Not for very long.

A couple of weeks, right?

A couple of weeks, yeah.

About a month.

I remember it now.

Did you bring it to Silverstone?

This is what I now remember.

I did indeed.

Yeah.

So yeah, that is now ending production next year.

Marge of next year.

Did they ever make?

They always said,

We're going to make one that has the BMW M engine.

Did they ever do that?

Don't think so.

They made some with slightly spicier B58.

But that's it.

But it's still B58.

Yeah.

Which is, it still works.

It's fine.

It's a pertent engine.

I'm just in a car.

Things people will be happy about.

It's the conclusion of the partnership between BMW and Toyota for it.

So no more.

Because if people don't know,

the current Supra got, now, it's possibly unnecessary.

But it's a lot of, it's a lot of sort of negativity

because the current generation Z4

shares the underpinnings with the Supra.

So yes.

Supra being such a legendary car

when they bought the new one

and it's just a BMW Z4 underneath.

It just felt a bit upset.

It felt like the wrong way round.

Not the wrong way round.

But it was like, it didn't,

I didn't really understand the partnership.

It's not like an Audi Lamborghini thing.

Or it's like, okay, the reliability is really poor.

You take each other.

You need someone to come in and fix that for you.

It's kind of like they're both

kind of equally as good at things as each other.

So they, yeah.

I think it was for the engine and a few other bits.

But yeah.

Which I think is still an incredibly not smart decision.

But it is.

Oh, it's the perfect one.

It is the modern 2J.

Like the B58 is that engine.

It's just always disappointing that it's not a Toyota.

It's not the engine.

Absolutely.

It's also, I think, part of it as well.

If it's not the, it's not lazy.

But I can see if people would think that maybe it is a bit.

Because if you look at the interior,

the steering wheel is the same.

Oh no.

The screen is the same.

I will say.

It's a shared.

It's not like it's the chassis and the engine are the same.

Think that's forgivable.

But it's the fact that you go inside it and it looks the same.

That would think, on my other point,

that that would be the good side of it.

Because the thing people have always said

about a Japanese car is that things like the interior

is going to be cheap.

So you would think, throwing a load of BMW stuff in there,

you'd go, hey, this interior is now way better

because there's proper quality stuff.

But I've also got Japanese build quality

and I've got a really good engine.

So on paper, it's perfect.

But there's something afoot.

The, when I had one, the interior was the worst part.

It was just being in a three series.

And not that it needed to be a luxury car,

but just take some semblance of Lexus with it.

Just get something that's different.

It was even the fact that like the bongs,

the chime, the bong chimes were BMW, everything.

There was even, I think, they might have updated it

because it wasn't on the manual one.

We had like a really early production, early one.

And the distance, what do you call it?

The cruise control radar thing.

The car in front of you, there's a three series on the screen.

And then later on, it was a Camry.

But yeah, I liked them a lot.

I genuinely, that car would do almost like your M5,

but like a baby version of your M5.

If you want to do a slide, the car will do a slide

at any junction, at any time, whenever you want to do it,

it will do a skid.

And I would have an auto one.

The manual one was not that great.

The manual you had was also the straight six.

It was also a straight six one,

but the auto one was just a ZF-8 speed.

And that's what I would have.

I have a video somewhere on my thing.

It was us out on a road in the middle of nowhere.

I pulled off alongside Will, started doing a burnout,

and then saw lights.

Allegedly.

Allegedly, sorry, in Mexico.

I was starting doing a pull away

and looked at my rear view mirror

and there were lights coming up quite fast.

And I was like, that's it.

Going to prison.

We're done now.

Turns out it was an RS6 that had seen something happening

and started was like, oh, this is cool.

I mean, while I was running for my life,

because I was quite scared.

Allegedly.

Thank you.

I just don't feel anything towards it.

I don't know.

The way it looks makes me feel nothing.

And it's the super name.

No one is disappointed that the GT86

doesn't have a Toyota engine.

No, that's because there's no pre-conception of the name.

Plus, like, oh, this is a new thing.

I don't care.

But if you call that the something else,

if you call it a different model,

that was a, this is a new Toyota sports car.

But it's when you give it the super name.

Yeah.

And then again, it's probably,

it's probably a conception amongst people

that don't actually matter,

because they're not the ones buying it.

Yeah.

But yeah, I just think the super name didn't really

not suit it, but it just wasn't necessary.

But oh, well, mate.

Goodbye, see you.

Goodbye.

Hopefully you'll be five grand soon

and you'll end up on TDC.

I will have one.

That's a big power one.

Oh, it's, yeah.

It's hell, yeah.

Edwin, you've been here flash to thank.

I, this is my gripe of the week.

I, when you, you're on a rural road,

that's what, where we, we are.

So lots of that here.

You may encounter someone that requires you,

one of you to move over.

You both can't drive past on the same road.

Fine.

Absolutely no worries.

Now in the light, in the day,

that is simply if you're holding a steering wheel,

a little two finger, just a couple.

No, not two fingers.

Sorry, not two fingers.

Yeah, all right.

Dickhead.

Thanks, mate.

No, it's just a little, thanks.

It's a little higher.

Thanks.

That's lovely.

That's a lovely.

You just give them a little, little hello.

Yeah.

Thanks so much.

That's great.

Why is it the moment light gets dark

that people in their 2025

nut McGee, whatever car it is.

Laser beam.

Decide, oh, you've let me through.

Please allow me to flash bang your retinas.

Every single time.

Don't thank me.

I don't need a thank.

Okay.

If you're going to flash me.

All right.

Because I need to then pull over and recover

and get LASIK eye surgery.

You can't do that.

It's mental.

Yeah.

Don't do it.

Yeah.

It's even work.

If you're in something slightly lower or slightly older,

you are because every other,

every other modern car is quite big now.

So you are at absolute like.

You're getting laser beamed.

Yeah, you're done basically.

Every single time.

It annoys me.

I go from no worries to just seeing stars

then just crashing into a hedge straight away.

It's so annoying.

If you own a new car

and someone lets you through,

do not flash them.

Because I don't want to be blinded.

Unless you can see them with a chameleon tint or something.

Shoot them straight through that window.

On the thanking thing,

I thought about this the other day.

I need to word this correctly

so people might understand.

You know when there's just a car

on the other side of the road.

So technically it's your right of way.

Yes.

And someone lets you go and you thank them.

Yeah.

Sometimes I have urged to thank people

who stopped at a red light.

And I don't.

Because it's madness.

Because why would you?

But why is that any different?

Yeah, it's true.

They've stopped.

They've only stopped because they've been told to be stopped.

But it's the same with the right of way.

Yes.

There wasn't a red light telling them to do it.

But the rules say you need to stop

because it's their right of way.

Why have I thanked you?

Yeah.

I have to reason to do it.

It's like zebra crossings.

Well, why am I thanking you for letting me cross?

You have to let me cross.

But at the same time,

you go and get coffee somewhere.

Yeah.

It's their job.

They're being paid to do it.

But at the end you go, thank you very much.

That's your job, mate.

Why am I thanking you?

Except for that's not the same.

Why am I not thanking you?

Not a normal red light,

but if there are temporary lights

and I've gone through, you know,

it's like a single lane.

Yeah.

I get an urge like last minute to give them that.

It's the place in the way to evolution works from here

where it's that bridge.

No, the listeners don't.

I'm telling you guys.

I don't know.

It's like a bridge over a river, maybe?

Yes.

And it's a railway.

A railway, yeah.

And it goes from, it is a single track thing.

So you have travel lights on each side

and it lets one side through at each time.

I always want to thank people for going through there.

I go, thanks so much.

Do you know what it is?

Because if it's late enough, we've discussed this before.

We'd run it.

No, I wouldn't run that.

No, because you can't see what's coming.

But if there was something where you could see what's coming,

you would, you would, you just run it.

Allegedly.

But why are we not just thanking everyone?

But just, but just on the motorway.

Everyone's going the other way.

Just, oh yeah.

I mean, you let someone let's you, let's you in.

You, like you, I give people the hand at night.

I don't care if they can't see me.

I do the same thing.

And it's for me.

It, yeah, I'm 100% on board with that.

They drove off and went, why has he not said that?

They probably can see me.

To me, but I believe.

No, because you can't.

You can't tell me.

I say it.

I thank someone and then I carry on driving and I'm going,

could they see me?

No, yeah.

And then I look into the person coming the other way

and I go, there's absolutely no one.

You've got to beam them so you can see them.

Thank you.

That's what I do.

You flash into the back.

They're just doing it for the split second to see

if your, your hands up.

So they download you and you go,

you got to put the interior light on and go.

But I do the same thing.

And it's, but I, and I, I believe even though

I know that they don't, I believe that they're doing the same thing.

If I do something nice that they have thanked me,

I just can't see.

They saw that.

I thank people who on the motorway, you know,

if you're in the outside lane trying to overtake and they're,

they're not necessarily hogging it, but they're,

you know, they're overtaking and they see you're behind them.

So the second they can have space, they move over.

This is funny.

They move over out of the way.

And I, I then,

How do you thank them?

As I go past, I just put my hand up, not at them.

I'm not like at all like money, like out of the window.

I do like just to thank you kind of like half the side.

I'm a little, has a quick.

I'm a quick little people.

Oh, I can do that.

How's that?

That I like.

Wait, wait, I missed that.

So someone, so let's say you're doing 70 miles an hour.

Okay.

You're in the outside lane.

No, no, correctly.

Because everyone else is allegedly doing 50 miles an hour on the,

in the inside middle.

And you're coming up on someone and then you're also,

they're in our lane.

They're in your lane.

Right.

And they see you coming.

Yep.

And they move out your way.

No, they don't deserve that.

No, no, no, no, no, no, sorry.

No, this is,

and we're not to belittle what you're saying.

Let me say it's not like they're blocking the lane

and they move out the way.

I mean, as in, they're already overtaking quite rightly at 70

because they're going like 70 past someone, it's a bit slower.

And the second that they're past them, they get out of the way.

Have you like?

Why should I thank them?

Because they're clearly going, you know what?

We'll do it.

Let's go.

I just want to thank people.

Because it's nice.

No, no, no, no, Motorway is different.

Motorway is north of the wall.

No, no, no, it is, it is the Wild West out there.

I won't be thanking anybody.

But what I'm trying to do,

I'm trying to do positive reinforcement.

I'm trying to teach an AI so that, you know, when they go,

okay, so if I moved out the way.

Like, like training a dog.

Exactly.

I moved out into the middle lane and they thank,

and they said,

thanks, I got a little treat.

I should stay in the middle or the left lane.

Not the middle.

And then I fall back and I pit me over them

straight into the central.

I prefer to give them silence.

And they go, that was weird.

And then they'll carry on about that day.

You're rocking the little sort of no-news-is-good news type thing.

Yeah. You slow down, pull alongside them and just stare at them.

You don't do anything.

I have given that to middle lane people,

which I'm noticing more of.

I don't want to get into that again,

because I think we could do that every single week.

But on the NEC, going to the NEC at the weekend.

Christ.

Just middle.

Christ.

Like the least busy a motorway could be,

and just people trundling along in both lanes,

in the fast lane and the middle lane,

whatever number lane you would call it,

lane nine.

And they're just laser being focused on ahead of them.

No mirrors, no nothing.

They aren't doing it.

Just people in the moment enjoying their life,

in no phones, just living in the moment.

They aren't doing it to personally attack.

I think they have to be stupid.

They have to be stupid, though.

How thick do you have to be?

It's been the worst one.

Right.

I will allow it temporarily.

If you are driving a lot,

there's no one else around and you have no way,

you might go, oh, sod it.

Oh, bum.

I'm in the middle lane.

Crumbs.

I better move over.

But if you've been undertaken, overtaken,

undertaken, overtaken,

flashed, given the wanker sign,

given two fingers,

given everything,

and you still go, what am I doing wrong?

Possibly.

Why is everyone abusing me?

What?

I came out today.

What did I do?

I'll come here for a drive.

I'll come here for a shootout.

Yeah, I would kill them.

Yeah.

Okay, I understand.

They're in the bomb, like the exploding club.

Yeah.

They're the ones I'd have like.

Gatling gum.

Like explosive cat size.

Oh, that's nice.

That would take the tires out.

Yeah.

That would likely take you out as well.

I don't care.

It's worth it.

No, it wouldn't catch me.

It's absolutely.

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Don't know where we're at last part.

I'm upset about this.

Stop stealing our TVRs.

Stealing our jobs.

Because it's just...

I get it, because it's a...

All these things are weird and cool,

and I've seen them on TV and Top Gear,

and I'd like to have one.

But, man, they don't...

Just let us have it.

But they're also not useful there.

Like, what are you going to do?

They don't cruise well.

They're built for weird little back roads.

They're not...

Unless you live in New England,

or maybe like Washington somewhere up in the mountains,

you're not going to have fun with them.

You've got a Corvette.

Yeah.

Use your Corvette.

We don't get Corvette like I do.

Paint your Corvette a chameleon colour.

It's the Viper or Corvette for those who want it different.

Get a Viper or a Corvette.

No, but they are different.

That is...

That is why...

You'd have a TVR,

because you could pull up with cars and coffee

and people would go,

Yo, what's that?

Yo, what's this thing?

It's a goddamn C6 Corvette.

Oh, man, there's a 35-minute wait

between pressing the button and the door open.

Are there...

Are there in America...

Are there British car people

that are like our American car people?

Oh, there's got to be.

Oh, no, yeah, yeah.

They just want to be...

They just like British stuff.

Yeah.

If you put up like an MG in...

Copter in the morning.

In...

Iowa.

Okay.

I'm probably going to judge you.

Okay.

Is the joke we make about American car owners here?

Yes.

Is...

Do they have the same thing where it's like...

Is there Dave who's that in...

He's actually from massive two-shirts.

But I'm British for and for him, mate.

I don't think there's that as much that.

I think there's...

But it's just...

I just think they're neat.

I think they're cool, man.

Yeah.

They wake up, watch the one show.

Get in the MG and go,

British cars, eh?

Yeah.

I just beat my wife.

I got a Zafira.

Yeah.

It's great.

Yeah.

I can't wait to get home.

I have a couple of Stellars, man.

I mean, there must be a few of them,

but I bet it's not as popular as British American coffee.

But if you're out there, let us know.

That's weird.

But price is going to be going...

Oh, please.

But they haven't yet.

And they've been available for import for a little while now.

Yeah.

It's a weird thing with America,

where some things they just decide to leave alone,

and some things just get absolutely massacred.

So I thought that with Evo 6s.

I was convinced.

I was like, I need to get an Evo 6 or an Evo 5.

As soon as they hit US market, we're done for.

That's just the same.

No.

Because I think probably because they've gone for the Japan first.

But then other stuff,

they're importing right-hand drive UK E30s and E36s.

What are you doing?

You had them.

I assume it'll be a thing where it's...

Once it does start.

Dry up everywhere.

Once the supply starts to become hard to come by,

that is when prices will shoot up,

because you won't be able to get hold of them.

Things like Evo 6s and whatever,

you can do that.

They're not telepenny.

But you can still go on eBay today and find 10-15,

probably that of varying condition.

I still think Clio's,

Clio 182s, when we get there.

But the thing is, it's going to be so few people.

Peter.

Shout out, Peter.

You're listening.

Of E60 M5 variety.

You wanted a 172.

But like we explained, they're not great to drive in the UK.

They'll be horrible to drive out there.

Oh, in the US, yeah.

They'll just...

Sitting at 70 in a Clio is not a great experience.

I imagine they'd be more expensive there,

but mainly to do with shipping and whatever.

Because they don't get anything like that.

I think they will want to...

No, yeah, absolutely.

But it's more that,

but like, how can you use it there?

Yeah.

Unless you're a collector.

That's when I think...

If you would look at it and go,

they're all going to be worth it.

A 10,000 mile one might be worth it to a collector in the US,

because they didn't get it.

But they're not going to want to buy your 95,000 mile track car.

That has a crunch and a third.

140,000 miles.

Yeah, that's quite a few miles.

But yeah, I think it's weird.

The special stuff, the really special stuff,

the Clio V6 is that sort of stuff will go up.

But TVRs are on that weird level of do they go or do they not?

I'm hoping not, because I would still very much love to own a Tuscan

or a Tamora or a T350 or a Cigaris,

but brackets that's never going to happen.

There was a cool TVR stand at the NEC classic car show,

and I had that Speed 12 on there,

which I wasn't even aware existed.

I have a model car, I'll try and find a picture of it,

of a TVR Speed 12, a Hot Wheels one in purple.

And I always used to look at that model

and then look at the Speed 12s that were in games

and the photos I saw.

And I was like, why is this one so different?

But the one that was at the NEC at the weekend

was exactly the same.

Yeah, that's the guy.

That's the model I have.

Like the prototype of what the Speed 12 became

and then it became more like the Tuscan.

But that just looks incredible.

I think there's a few people that are trying to...

There's some people that have the engine blueprints or information

that they are making a complete replica

or a recreation of the engine.

But just a ridiculous thing, ridiculous thing.

But seeing that, I had no idea existed outside of my 1 to 18 model.

Please correct me if I'm wrong,

but that was going to be like the homologated race car

and then the road car, which is what they were going to sell,

was the small server looking.

Yeah, strange because that looks like a road car

and the other one looks like a race car.

But yeah, really cool TVR.

But also what happened to the Griffith?

Yeah, I think again, classic TVR changes hands,

changes hands, changes hands.

We're going to bring a new car up, changes hands, changes hands.

I was less interested in that because of the engine it had.

Yeah, it felt like because it's not a TVR going...

We made this, it's bad and it will die.

But nonetheless, we made it.

Ben, another one from you here.

New plate record.

Yes, a plate sold.

As in like a cutlery in the plate or...

China plate, nice pattern on it.

Yeah, sold for lots of money.

I'm just going to pull that up once again.

What is the plate?

Can we guess?

Yeah, you can guess actually.

L1.

Let me tell you what it sold for in terms of bread.

Yes.

£926,000.

Huh?

Does that before or after fees?

Inclusive fees.

Okay, so it was like probably 800 grand.

Less than a million.

It was 800 grand.

Why does that not feel like a record?

A UK record.

Because the guy who owns Khan has always been trying to sell F1

for five or 10 million saying it is the most expensive,

but it's never sold.

But I feel like I'm a plate.

Well, obviously they haven't.

But I'm assuming other plates around the world have sold for more.

Yo, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Absolutely, yeah.

Sorry, yes.

I'm going to say it's not A1 because I think it's still on the Brunei car.

Two digit with a 1 in it.

I'm going to say it's a two-digit plate, yeah.

But not a 1.

I think it's...

I'm not telling you.

You have to guess.

A1.

You can't say it's a two-digit plate and then I'll tell you one of the numbers.

I'm going to say it's 1A because I think their eyes also that way around.

It was a 6N.

Okay.

It's 1F.

1F.

And that sold for 800K.

And then other ones that were in that option was EB1 for 150.

Nice.

GTR1 for 60, WTF1 for 80.

And F1...

Wow.

Sorry, F4TE.

Fatty.

Oh, F4.

I saw someone posting about it.

F4RTE.

Is it fatty?

F4T is F4T.

Oh, sorry.

F4T.

You said...

Not fatty then.

But I read it exactly the same.

Is it fate?

Is it fatty?

But I saw it as someone saying it was this perfect F40 plate.

I was like...

No.

The fact that most people look at it and go...

So it's what?

F4TTEY.

F4TEE.

Yeah.

Oh, so it's a 250-pound plate.

Yeah.

But it sold for how much?

12K.

Like that was probably made available on the DVLA for like $8,000.

Yeah.

But yeah, so arms have to be sold for all in $9.26.

That is a ridiculous amount of number.

Did you see...

I saw JK sold as well.

Is in...

J...

K...

I think 1 maybe.

Wow.

But everyone's saying...

Who bought that?

That's 300K.

The only thing I always find funny is that...

Okay, you go out, you spend 900 grand on a plate.

You're still spending 20 quid on eBay to go and buy the actual plate.

Yeah, you're still going to buy the plate.

Like, you don't get a premium plate if you see what I mean.

You can go get a 4D or you can go to number one plates that we use.

But it's still a 20-pound piece of plastic.

And you also, you still don't own it.

No, yeah.

Technically.

DVLA?

If you start spacing it illegally, which I guess you won't do with one F, it's quite difficult.

I prefer F1.

Yeah, I might space it like four spaces in the middle or really close together.

It just looks like...

And then at the police code, we're going to take that away.

It just comes up on the DVLA again for like 30 quid.

That's it on the record?

No more number plates.

That was the story.

I still think that's just a dumb amount.

I wouldn't do that for a number plate.

Yeah, I couldn't.

Even if I was multi-billionaire, 9000, I don't think there's a number plate out there.

Do you know what I do?

I could care about it now.

Drive with no plates and just take the fine.

As far as that reach.

Okay.

Fair.

Rather than buying a plate.

So you just be a criminal?

Allegedly.

Criminals have standards.

Gordon Murray's RM Sotheby's SS chassis number one, which is for auction.

When we were at Monterey Car Week, which I don't know if we've mentioned...

No way.

We were doing...

There's no way we were there.

We went to Schismonterey Car Week.

I don't remember.

During the week at the event we couldn't get into.

Oh, we saw this one there, yeah?

Yeah, the event we just imagined.

They released this, which is called the Gordon Murray S1 LM.

Completely new car.

Completely new.

Which is basically, let's be honest, it's a McLaren F1.

Is it a GTR GT?

I don't see it.

I'll be honest.

I don't see it.

What is it based on?

Is it...

It's an...

Well, they were supposed to be an LM.

Oh, sorry.

So that's the one, yeah.

So basically, it looks like a McLaren F1 LM with the wing.

Basically, it's a modernized version, exactly how Gordon Murray wants it.

And it was announced at the time that there were five of them, all to one person.

But it has appeared that the RM Sotheby's will be auctioning off one of them.

He couldn't stretch to it.

Number one.

The one guy that...

One guy is the first one.

Shassy one, yeah.

He bought it.

He bought all five and went, actually, had a bit of a tough month.

Can I just get four instead?

Guidance is north of 20mm.

That's crazy.

Now, when you looked into it, I don't know why I'm asking you this question,

because I know you don't know this answer.

But do you know if it's going to be a bidding or if it's a sealed bid?

I assume it will be sealed.

There we go.

It bends back to the phone.

That's what I would assume so, too.

Because then it's...

So, there was one for the McLaren F1 while we were out there,

which is not a 20mm, 25mm.

It's just...

Everyone put a number in an envelope.

I think it's an envelope.

Oh, sorry.

No.

An envelope.

And then hand it in.

Whoever has the highest number wins.

What's interesting about it is that it is a...

So, obviously, 20mm guidance price is a lot of money for it.

And considering McLaren F1 is over 20mm for one now these days,

maybe it's worth the money.

Who knows?

But do you remember when we were at Monterey Car Week

at the Iron Sotheby's auction?

The...

What is it?

The Ferrari something.

The SP3.

The SP3 went for 20-something million.

I think that will...

Because other Daytonas were sold cents for considerably less.

I'll do a second.

This is what I'm about to say.

Yeah, it's a tailor made.

More or no, there is a...

Apparently, particularly in the US,

when it's a charity auction, there is a big tax write-off.

Yes, there is.

So, because of that, that car is worth what?

5, 6 million maybe.

But it went for 26mm because of the tax write-off.

Now, this is guidance price at 20mm.

So, there's no reason why this couldn't go for a ridiculous amount of money.

Oh, yeah, it definitely could.

Because someone might go,

all right, cool, I'm going to write off 30mm of...

Also, there's not really possibly another opportunity to buy that.

No.

If one person owns the other four,

then you're never going to get the opportunity to get another one.

I'm assuming, does it look like that?

Because they're not all spec.

I think it might be an allocation,

because the thing that they showed in Monterey

was like a prototype or like a proof of concept model.

Because the whole thing was that they weren't sure yet

whether they were going to make them lights or pop-ups

or LEDs or something yet.

So, I assume it might be the same.

It's like, you can have the one allocation.

So, I'd be annoyed about that.

It feels like I've got this chance to buy the one-off car

and they're like, no, I can't choose it.

No, oh yeah, sorry, you expect it pink.

But then if I'm spending, I don't know how much they cost.

But didn't they say it was a room of about 11 million

or 10 million for each?

So, if you're paying basically double for it,

you're effectively just paying for allocation.

But you're getting access to something that is,

that all of the hype is built around.

It's if you're that rich, it's worth that money.

Yeah, it's true.

Because it's also number one.

Yeah.

Which always tends to be worth.

If you look at the LMs, there are five McLaren F1 LMs plus one.

Three of them are in Brunei.

One of them is now moved across,

but it's still kind of part of the collection.

You don't have an opportunity to buy an F1 LM.

What's that worth?

At any one time, there will be a McLaren F1 for sale somewhere in the world.

Someone will be willing to sell it.

That isn't an option on an LM.

You might want, you might be a billionaire and want one.

And the people who've gone from right now are going,

no, you're not having it.

This might be the same thing where someone's like,

this is my only opportunity to ever have one.

I will pay you 100.

Because then that person's going to look at it,

thinking even if I pay 30 million for this, this is number one.

Yeah, which it will always be number one.

And they will know that in the future,

someone's going to come to them and say,

I want that car.

I will give you 50 million pounds.

The only issue is though, is that it's going to,

I get it because if I was that rich, I probably would as well.

It's going to just disappear and just go into storage.

Most likely.

It probably isn't ever going to be seen.

But I meant to say this the other day.

There is, is it not interesting that over the past 10 years,

there has been a, not even a resurgence,

but like a, a collection of very rich people

who have now decided to start driving the shit out of these cars.

Yeah, just using them.

Because like 10 years ago, you go to the quail or something,

it's people trailering their cars

and they're putting them on a plinth and that's it.

Whereas we were there, P1 GTR getting ragged around the road.

Yeah, it's getting used.

A Valkyrie covered in diamonds.

Like people are, there are granted,

they're still, they're just rich people showing off.

But they are using them.

At least they're being, because the important thing with those cars

is that they are seen by a younger generation.

By those who perhaps will either can't afford or never afford

those sorts of things.

But it is still cool to better see them.

So you're not just seeing that in a,

because you just see it on a page or an Instagram video

or whatever it's like, whatever.

But until you see it in person.

And when we were driving behind that McLaren F1,

that was even, even for me,

that was a like a life changing moment to be like,

that's one of those things that I've been obsessed with for years.

It's cool.

So as long as one of them gets driven around.

Yeah.

So you know, TDC will put an offer in.

We'll see, yeah, see what we get.

Yeah.

If you want to let us drive it, we'll do a review.

We'll do the first review, you know.

Also, I would say we had a good hand in that car.

We literally said when it was announced that he would be

revealing a new car that is based on the 250 or sort of

similar to the 250.

We said these make one that doesn't have the fan on

and is more like an F1.

Gordon listens to the podcast.

And Gordon confirmed that he listens to the podcast.

All right, boys, I love it.

Gordon, I know you keep dodging those messages, mate.

But your email, something wrong with your email,

I think, I don't think you're getting them.

Yeah, gmari at gmail.com.

At gmari.com.

That made it.

No, that could actually be as easy as that.

Next one on here, I put in there.

People who drive with their mirrors folded in.

Okay.

And now Ben and I both put something in the chat,

which was I think from our journey to retro power,

that perhaps we both felt wronged on those journeys.

And mine was seeing someone driving along

and they had just a passenger mirror folded in,

which confused me more than having both of your mirrors folded in.

Many modern cars will have electric folding mirrors.

Yeah.

But most will unlock, when you unlock them, they unfold.

Yeah, they.

So how.

They write themselves.

You folded those.

You folded those mirrors in by choice at some point,

whether when you locked it, maybe you street park it,

I don't know, or someone else did.

And they didn't notice until I got the motorway.

But that's what I'm trying to get.

Like someone got to the motorway.

I've always had this rule.

My driving instructor is talking about this.

If you see a car with.

Use your mirrors?

If you see a car with mirrors folded in, just don't get near it.

Because that person is so unaware.

If you've got that far and you haven't checked your mirrors once,

you're going to do some crazy stuff.

That's a great point, mate.

That's a very good point.

What's in the motorway as well?

The face you.

On the motorway as well.

Look over here.

Who's that?

That's me.

Ah, let me just move over.

Hello, mate.

What are you up to?

Mate, it's just bizarre.

It's like, I can't.

It's so obvious to me that, I mean, I've sometimes had it,

where like a mirror has been folded in,

more like a manual mirror,

where you've had to pop it in yourself or something.

And then you get in the car and go, oh, oops.

Oh, I bet you know.

Yeah.

Oh, how have you got it?

Normally, it's normally like an 87-year-old granddad.

He's absolutely, I mean, even if you had no mirrors,

if you had no doors, you'd be none the wiser.

He's got a monospecial Tesserosa, for all he knows.

Are they legal?

Do we need them?

Do we need these mirrors?

But that really, it just baffled me,

and it angered me briefly, which it shouldn't do.

But it does.

Yeah, you should just, whatever that happens,

go and get in their blind spot and just hide,

and just wait for them to make a move and go,

oh, we do.

Oh, you idiot.

Get your mirror folded in or something.

Yeah, it does, actually.

Yeah.

No, but that, I like the idea that they go set off,

they sit and just go,

wish I could do something about that.

But oh well, off we go.

Well, if I was a button, I'd unfold those.

I can get it, if there is a some form of fault with your car,

but A, fix it, B, get out and go pull it out yourself.

Also, yeah, I bet even if you had a faulty electrical one,

you could do that.

In fact, I reckon you could pull it out manually.

Yeah, you can.

Absolutely you can.

Done.

Stupid.

If that's you.

Nothing to hide again on that one, Ben,

just silence in the corner.

I think mirrors folded in is a sign

that you shouldn't be on the road.

I understand.

Or possibly they're going for a top speed run.

But on one side, it's like NASCAR,

they're trying to keep...

That's what pulled it into the corner.

That's what made me clock on to it.

I've seen it before, but when I saw one,

have you don't, it was a passenger side as well.

It's like, are you stupid?

Are you actually stupid?

It's a fair point.

Again, you are your...

Gatling gun.

...victim of the gun.

Again, you live by the gun, you die by it.

I'll shoot you straight off the road.

Jesus.

Anyway, Ben, on to your rant,

because I feel quite strongly about this as well,

if it's the same thing I'm thinking of.

What is it?

It is people who report police in traffic.

Oh my...

Okay, so on the way to retro power,

as these guys like to remind me,

I was late.

Just a bit late, just a little bit late.

Yeah, which is always interesting,

because I'm not typically late to most shoots,

but I was on this occasion a bit late,

and I felt bad.

Just a half day, wasn't it?

Yeah, okay, interesting, interesting, interesting.

Okay.

Don't often say anything to you guys when you're late,

but fine.

Are you joking?

I don't.

I will say, I will say,

I will say, oh, half day is it's a joke,

but you'll go, you'll go,

like seriously, like you, you are late.

Absolutely not.

We are also joking, Ben.

Like Ben, Ben, Ben, Ben.

You report your side and went, mate, like that.

Look, I know this is getting ridiculous now.

Well, back there, 9.36, that won't run.

Meanwhile, after Ben, half day is it,

him, what?

No, because I was late.

You had a problem.

You got all, you were all shirty with me.

You went to Thruxton.

Tazda Tasmanian devil for no reason.

You went to Thruxton last week.

I got, I got given so much abuse for being late.

I wasn't even late.

I was there before you.

The cameras weren't set because these guys

have become a bunch of thieves in the last six months.

Don't even get me started.

I do not want to get started on that rabbit.

Let's do it. Let's do it.

All right, let's go.

All right, cool.

Let's do it.

So we went to Thruxton last week,

as you may have heard in the last podcast,

and Edwin and I, we were late.

You were late.

Like you said, let us get our side of the story out.

You wait.

Ben is literally late.

Look, I can't wait for this.

The golf had a radiator problem,

which delayed proceedings.

Yes.

There's nothing, we can't do anything.

Other than fix it.

Of course.

Edwin had to fix the radiator,

which set the day back.

And we said that.

We said to you early in the day,

there is a delay.

Please wait.

And obviously, you'd already left.

I'd already left.

I'd turn around and go home.

Okay.

You didn't have to.

How far away you got?

15 minutes from my house.

You said 10 when you were there,

but that's fine.

Yeah.

Maybe I was being nice back then.

They're all honest now.

Maybe I'm lying now.

So we continued through the day,

and then the track day has a lunch break

from like 12 to one or something.

So we're like, no point getting there then.

We'll get there in the afternoon at some point.

It'll be fine.

And we say to you when we feel like the radiator

is getting close.

I said to you, we're almost there.

Blah, blah, blah.

And then there was another delay.

So I said, it's probably another half an hour.

And I said, we will be there around 2.30 to 2.45.

And then I messaged you.

And I said, it might be worth you

getting there early, get the camera set up,

and maybe go and get your B roll.

So when we get there,

we can just set the cameras in the car

and go on track.

Yeah.

We should be there roughly 2.30 to 2.45.

Could be a 1.0,

but it might be worth you doing any of your B roll stuff

that doesn't require these cars before we get there.

Benjamin Rogers replied at 1.31.

Sounds good.

And we arrive at Thruxton.

And where were you?

Cozy, sitting in your heated seat.

Not true.

I was actually sitting at the back of my car.

You were sitting at the back of the car.

With the tail get open,

when the camera is setting them up.

But I think you'd seen us coming and you saw.

Okay.

Now let me preface this.

Okay.

We often run our production.

Someone pushed him on the swing.

We run our productions quite low,

like low team members.

It's you two and then it's me.

Yes.

Right.

And granted, it's my job.

The dream team.

Yeah.

Absolutely.

Actually, actually the dream team.

Man, actually the dream team.

Yeah.

Okay.

So this is our,

so my day goes like this, right?

I get up nice and early.

I go,

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For the first time in the beginning.

Truxcast your mind back to 1997.

I was born.

Truxston is actually-

It's a race track.

It's not that far from me,

in relative to where we normally go.

Lester's very far from me.

Truxston, we're an hour and 15.

That's a nice commute for me.

Wow, way to dox yourself, Ben.

Triangulate the position.

Maybe.

It's like an hour and 45 from my house.

No, it's not that far from my house,

in relative to the rest of the country,

where we usually film, right?

So I was like, cool.

We've got to get a four.

Originally, well at 9, 30, 10 o'clock,

I go, go get my car.

I'm loaded up.

The cameras are,

and this is the most thing

that noise in the most in the world,

because when I get to a shoot,

I've got these two divas

walking out of their trailers.

Brackets, Mark, full goals.

Yeah.

Why are the cameras not set up?

Why is it-

Bear in mind, on this shoot,

I'm setting it.

We are running one main camera,

six GoPros.

Yeah.

Okay.

All of these have cards in them

that are set.

Every time we set the right settings.

And then we run our cameras in a-

I won't bore you with the details,

but we have to put,

I think, an ND filter,

which is like sunglasses for your camera.

It's actually a great explanation.

So you get basically good motion blur.

It looks quick on track,

but I can't put,

I got to use a certain strength of ND,

which is very hard to do

in the dark at my house tonight

before the shoot,

because I can't guess how bright

it's going to be outside.

So I had to do that when we got there.

No, it wasn't.

Edwin did have a fantastic argument about that.

So I'd already,

I'd already set the cameras up

and done the cards.

Batteries charged.

Everything's good to go.

All you have to do is get there,

do the ND filters,

tell the cameras to the car,

and we can go,

it's just me.

These two don't offer to help.

They sit in their cars

on their phones going-

That's not the point.

So I'm like, cool.

I'm going to do that.

It's all planned.

Oh, just brushed over that.

Didn't want to carry over.

No, I'm not air thrusting yet.

I've left my house.

I'm just smoking up.

I'm then told last minute

the car is broken.

I'm like, cool.

This happens quite a lot

because car content

is just the most annoying thing to film

because it all goes wrong all the time.

So I go home.

I'm like, cool.

I'll get some editing done.

That's great.

Edit until like lunch.

I have a little early lunch

and I'm ready to go.

Will goes.

Where do you have lunch?

I think I had a sausage roll for lunch.

Oh, lovely.

A packet of monster munch.

No, Greg's pizza.

No, not this time.

I'm on my way home.

No, there's no Greg's in my house.

Um, stock myself again.

The person on the map, right?

Right, zoom.

No, Greg's excrupy area.

So I've gone home.

Right, which is fine.

And I've gone in the house.

I've done, I've done anything.

I then get told the car will be fixed.

Cool.

So then I'm on the way.

I get a text saying,

saying, were we there about two,

two thirds?

No, sorry.

But we've been delayed again.

So I'm like, all right, cool.

I can, I can stop.

Get a little bottle of water.

I can chill.

I can do that.

Out where?

Where's the exact location you stopped for?

Somewhere in there.

Through, through.

That's how far away from us.

I just...

I'm between Thruxton and you.

Like, where is that?

Somewhere.

And so I was just stopped.

I need to go for a little wee.

And I get some water.

Okay.

So I was like, I did that.

So I ended up being there about 20 past.

This is a really roundabout way of telling this.

Yeah.

So what I'm saying is that I,

right, I did slow down,

but I got there about 10 minutes before you.

Oh, that's where the story starts.

Is it?

Just the...

But I'm saying that there's all this like build up of like being told,

I'm going to be here at this time.

No, I'm going to be later.

Yeah.

Okay, go ahead.

That's fair.

Right.

But we had said this very specific time

and we were there in that time frame.

Okay.

But then what do you want me to do?

Because I can't tether my cameras to a car that doesn't exist.

Here was my favorite moment.

And it was when we went and did our noise test.

Right?

Yeah.

And obviously the message I sent to you,

I'm going to say like 90 minutes prior to that,

was be wrong.

While we're not there,

what do I see you doing over in the distance?

Starting your B-roll.

But what do you want me to do?

I have to set the cameras up.

Does that...

No, I don't know.

I think the viewers will speak.

They will understand the truth.

Or they won't understand a clue what's going on.

I think they've got no idea what's...

And it just sounds like bickering between wives and husbands.

I would say we're both in the wrong, but you more.

Essentially.

Essentially, the way it works is that...

We're equally in the wrong, but you're more equal.

These two have no patience.

But you like 75%.

These two have no patience for anything.

They want a good video, but then they don't want to...

They don't necessarily want to wait around for it to be a good video.

So instead, what they do is they just moan at me.

That's not true.

And then they followed me while I'm trying to set stuff up.

We were there.

You were sat in your car.

We've got black flags for that.

You...

I tried to get into the back of your car to put a camera in there,

and you didn't...

And your seat was broken, so I couldn't even get in and out.

Oh, sorry about that.

You were sat in the seat that would move forward to be like...

You broke your seat, mate.

Why did you do that?

No.

But then you got all showy with me.

I didn't know it.

I didn't get shirty.

You did get shirty.

Do not use the word shirty with me, or I will get shirty.

You basically...

You guys need to have more patience,

because I can't go any quicker.

It's not my fault.

No, Ben.

I don't...

You don't need to tell me things I already know.

It's a quite a good one.

It's the idea that for some reason,

I'm like purposely going slow.

It's like spiting you.

And then this is the level of diva you've become now.

We finished the shoot.

Bear in mind, your work for the day,

granted you did fix the car,

was to drive cars round a track.

Hey, look.

It's tough.

It's...

Stop for a second.

I'm running around trying to get shots,

so you can't pass.

I've set all cameras.

I'm worried about all sorts of things.

You guys are driving cars on a track going,

oh, this is a great...

Now, let me ask a question.

Hang on a second.

Right?

You just said I'm running around getting shots.

All the shots were from the same place.

They weren't?

They were on the pit wall.

I'd say we got as many shots.

Not all of them.

I showed you two shots out of the five laps you did.

Oh, okay.

Where were you running on the track first?

I went up high.

I went...

And what I'm saying is, is that then we finish,

I take the cameras like cars,

and we're stood around,

and these go right, come on, go home,

and just left.

And I'll have to...

Oh, sorry.

Should we come for you?

Do you like massage?

Would you like a grease down on a shanty?

But like, if we're all...

If we're all like a gang,

you should hang out.

Ben, I said,

do you want to go to dinner?

And you went,

no, I'm going to head off.

That was your words.

I had stuff to that evening.

Oh, interesting.

That's interesting.

Is that pre-balled tyres or is that...

Oh, yes.

I guess it was happening.

Unaware of sort of the situation.

It's always in motion.

Yeah. So it's probably just...

You know what?

There may be some viewers that think we're in the wrong.

And then there may be...

Also, there's going to be a lot of viewers thinking,

wow, they really hate each other.

This is every day.

Don't worry.

This is this...

It comes from a place of something, but...

This bickering happens all day,

every day.

But at the end of the day,

we all love each other.

But how that started is people who report people police

in traffic jams becoming...

How?

How did we get there?

Can we get onto that?

That might be a really long window story.

Actually, no, I'll think about it.

Anyway, I was on the way at the retro power the next day.

Yeah, next day.

And it's quite a long journey.

I was late.

Late.

And yeah, that's it.

That's where it was.

I got halfway there.

And do you know what?

I was in a great mood.

I was like, I'm on the way out there.

We're going to...

The rays were really coming around my sleeve.

What's that noise back there?

Yeah.

Tough.

And I got into quite a lot of traffic

because there had been, frankly, quite a bad crash.

Can I read the messages?

It was...

No, it is nothing bad.

It's just an illustration of your frustration, Ben.

It says at 12...

So, we were meeting there at 1.30.

1.45.

1.30.

Ben says, L traffic right now.

So, looking closer to 1.40 for me.

That was at 12.05.

And at 12.20, this is an actual L.

It's getting worse by the minute.

It's now saying 1.55.

That was in millimetres of your tread in the back.

Well, that's generous.

Sorry, it was just a little...

Yeah, sorry.

Because you were getting annoyed.

Well, I was...

It was more because I didn't want to get shouted at.

I got there for being late.

And also, he makes it hard to be...

This is actually meant to be some like SS, like...

Yeah, you must never be late.

We're going to shout at you and give you lechings.

Meanwhile, what happens turns up.

Half day is it.

That's it.

Half day is it.

We're going to get lunch.

To be fair, you're usually quite good.

On that occasion, it was more that I didn't want to...

Annoy retro power.

We're going to a business.

I don't want them to...

It makes us look bad if your producer arrives.

Yeah, okay.

Yeah, but with cocks on his window.

No, they weren't there.

They were added actually at retro power.

So, yeah, I'm in traffic, right?

And I keep getting these notifications on my Google Maps,

just saying police report nearby.

There's police around.

And do you know where the police were?

At the crash site.

No way.

Reporting police is...

I'd assume a lot of the time it's for speeding.

A lot of the time to warn people.

A speed van is what I would be.

Yeah.

Or a speed van or a static car at the side of the mountain.

Yeah, just the police sat there who could come chase after you.

Wherever.

So, you get a notification saying police there.

Now, 9% of the time it's not police in this country.

If you don't know, if you're American or whatever,

we have traffic officers who are in the same...

It's still a similar model car and it has battenberging,

like the checkered side that we have.

Different color.

But rather than it being blue and green yellow,

they're like blue and gray.

Yeah, or black, whatever.

So, but people think that police...

Not emergency services.

They're not under any circumstances.

I don't know.

You wouldn't know.

They're on the side of the road and people report it was police.

But do you have that?

But then why people report it?

If you're in slow-moving,

it's basically standstill traffic.

Why are you reporting police that are there?

Of course police are there.

I mean traffic.

I know the police are there.

But I wonder if it's like a...

Look, there's an accident or something.

There's something happening there.

I know there's an accident because I'm in a 70 going one.

I know there's an accident.

You should get off the road.

You're in a one going 70.

Yeah.

I did a wrong report to Waze just to see what happened.

I got an email from them.

Not like personally, but like it was an email

or like a message on Waze.

I said there was no more road.

Yeah.

Well, I'm aware of this because we'll do that to me too.

And I got an email saying...

No more road.

Yeah.

I said road ends there.

No more.

No more road.

And he went, are you sure about that?

I was like, yeah.

Well, when I was stuck in traffic on the M40

and he declared on my Waze that the M40 was gone,

that it's someone's gotten rid of the M40.

And I got an email saying,

Hi, we're just looking through your report now.

Can you elaborate on what you meant by this?

What do you mean by that?

Great.

Now, I'm no expert, but I've never seen a road to disappear.

So why is that feature?

You never know.

Also Waze then watching people flying over that missing section of road every day.

God, they're jumping it.

I don't know if anyone, there has to be among the creamers,

the first one to report.

I mean, I feel for them because you may be caught,

but if you are the first to report, I've never...

There's very few times I've been past something

that hasn't been reported.

I did it the other day.

You reported someone?

Just something.

Someone, there was somewhere around here

and they had just put in a blocked road.

It was, we call it the by the way, but it's not.

The long one.

No, the non-Wigglywood word.

The actual, sorry, Jonathan Ross on here right now.

No, the dual carriageway.

Anyway, it doesn't matter.

They had just put a sign in

and my Waze was still like,

Yeah, go down there.

So I clicked on it.

I said, it's blocked.

Road blocked.

I said, highlight it.

Put it on there.

It said, cool, that's blocked.

You should head down there.

I was like, surely you're gonna update.

And it went, nah, you should.

I know you said that it's blocked,

but I really do think you should go there.

But road closed signs.

I am always tempted to go and have a look at least.

If it says road closed,

because no matter the times I've seen road closed

and what it actually means is a little side road

off that road.

I'm like, now I almost went on a 20 minute detail

because of your shitty sign.

But I like to go and have a look.

I might have to do a U-turn.

That's fine.

No, or drive through the sign

if it's not being worked on.

I'm going to admit something.

The other night, this was like a week or two ago.

I was in Digcot.

Got a yaitley in there.

Got Digcot.

It's all filled.

Yeah, a tap flow.

There was a route,

ways were saying, head back to the motorway.

Cool.

Start driving towards it and said, road up.

Hey, it's closed.

It was like 11.30 at night.

Pizza boy.

I was like, let me just have a look.

Because it's 11.30.

There's nothing.

They don't really work.

You can't close a road at that time.

And I kept going.

And it kept saying, mate, this road is closed.

You really should not.

And there was no one else on it.

I was like, hey, come on.

We'll have a look.

And I got onto a, they were tearing up the road

and it was unpaved.

It was just dirt.

I said to my girlfriend,

should we just carry on?

She went, let's just have a look.

And so we carried on onto this dirt.

Got to a junction that was completely being repaved.

And there was just guys working on the road there

who just all stopped and stared at me.

I just went, I just pointed like where I wanted to go across.

And they went, fine, give me a thumbs up.

Yeah.

Do you have a cross?

But they were quite clearly confused.

They're like, there are so many signs.

There's no way you couldn't have missed.

It does make sense to be honest though.

They can't put more detail on a road closed sign.

They can't put a paragraph.

There's road closed.

Oh, by the way, it's not just this one.

It's down there on the left.

Yeah.

And if you do come down, you might not be able to turn around.

So you're in a hedge after reading.

But they go, they go road closed.

And you go down the road.

It's just not, is it?

Is someone's driveway is closed or something?

Or, oh, that bridge is closed.

No one goes over.

So we're saying TDC's top tip.

Don't listen to road closed signs.

Don't do that.

Don't worry about police.

Don't worry about that.

They're not there.

All of the bells.

Don't use highway control and go through red lights at night.

And don't ever use, do always use a wing mirror.

And get out fast lane.

Shall we end on a one of the week?

Sure.

Now I have one.

Oh, you do?

Oh, actually you've already told me.

So I've got it pulled up.

Here's one I made earlier.

Now I was trying to think of this man's number plate,

not because I want to talk to him,

but because in case people know who he is,

it was J9 something.

But looking at another plate,

I would imagine you might be called Jack.

Otherwise, no idea.

But I saw a Golf R in traffic the other day

on my way home from work.

And normally I don't pay much attention to a Golf R

because it's a Golf R.

It's just meh.

I think they're nice cars,

but they're not that interesting.

But there was a noise emitting

coming from this Golf R.

I was like, it's not four cylinder.

It was deeper.

I was thinking it's a VR6 or it's a five-pot,

but it was.

So it's quite common that people

take the RS 300 and put it in the Golf R

because it's Vag stuff.

Big sleeper style.

Everything is like Legos.

So you can just swap it all over.

But something ignited in me when I saw this Golf.

But it's also because it wasn't like your usual Golf R

where it didn't have an F1 light at the back

and a massive diffuser and side splitter

and a chameleon tent.

It was just nice.

I would have a sort of...

There's a darker blue, not that blue.

I can't remember.

It might be sort of like a Lapis type.

But this one was like the crayon gray,

like the Porsche color with ultra-leggeros.

Sat up a bit lower.

Fitment was just stupendous.

Really quite pleasant.

But the five cylinder made that car.

It's just...

That's a cool car.

...infinitely more interesting than it was with...

And then it did a little pull beside me

and it had some sufficient turbo noise.

And that got me googling how much this?

How much that?

How do I do this?

Because you can get a relatively cheap Golf R.

And if you're just going to throw the engine away,

anyway, then get an engine blown one on co-park.

Get a blown engine Golf R and a little five cylinder.

And by...

We've been looking at this recently.

Audi RS Q3s.

So there are two different versions

of the Audi five cylinder turbo.

The TTRS, the RS3, that sort of stuff.

The early ones in the early RS3 and TTRS are iron blocks,

which make them great for doing big power sort of stuff.

But the later one,

which nerds will call the DASA, I believe,

are an aluminium block.

So they're much lighter.

They're much more favourable for swapping into other cars

if you don't have a load of weight over the front axle,

like every Audi does.

RS Q3s have the DASA.

Yep.

And they are now selling,

we saw one, we watched someone,

one of the dealer auction site,

self a nine grand.

That's ridiculous.

The engine alone on eBay is like five and a half to six grand.

So those cars, RS Q3s are done.

Because your days are numbered.

You're not good enough to stick around.

No.

You're good for your engine.

You're getting picked apart for bits.

And that's your life.

You know what?

Someone out there,

go stick a couple early RS Q3s away

because there's going to be four of them left at some point.

They're just going to get rinsed for the engine.

I don't know if it,

I just keep seeing it.

I don't know if there is an issue with them or something,

or if it's just because it's not really desirable,

because it's RS Q3.

They're just cheap.

They're so cheap.

But that, honestly, when I saw it,

it was the one of the first times,

normally I don't pay that much to like modified car and truck.

Unless it's really nice.

But this was one of the first times in ages,

I saw a car.

I followed it.

I kept trying to get alongside it.

As the person tried to find beds house.

Also, because I have no music,

it was nice to do something.

But that car, honestly,

it was really, really nice.

And just nicely mod,

nice to see a car really nicely modified

and not over the top.

So if your name is Jack or J9,

or something like that, fair play.

That's a really nice car.

Benjamin.

Putting it on you.

Hello, sir.

I'm looking at new dailies.

Oh, here we go.

Because always, I think it's time.

I think I, you know what?

I think the audience are actually quite interested

in your daily.

I think they're invested.

That's not, there's no sarcasm there.

I actually believe it.

Could be a little video, couldn't it?

John, I'd quite like that.

Give me a second channel video.

I think it would be.

Yes.

But either way.

Yeah, that probably should be.

But I think it's good.

Yeah, I think I think.

What is it?

What are you thinking?

I'm fancying.

What's on the bone top right now?

I quite like a Volvo.

Okay.

And I know that you think that's boring.

I don't.

I like.

I want a V60.

Pull it up.

I like a V60.

Pull up, not the sausages.

V60 is a focus, essentially.

Is that that?

I don't know.

Is this the second?

Can you get a Mark II?

No, sorry.

Sorry, it's Mark I, V60.

Give me a year.

2000, well, 2014 would be a facelift.

A.O.

That's not what I was thinking.

No, not the current one.

I can't afford that.

Are you talking?

I think that is the one that's based on focus.

I think that was correct.

The S40 and the V50 before that 2009 era.

Yeah, sorry.

So, let's go 20...

So, are you talking about that?

That's right.

Yeah, a little hard as I'm one of those.

So, that was not what I was expecting.

So, that is like a 2014 to 2015 Volvo V60.

They will, you know what?

They will no doubt be cremers out there

that own this generation of V60.

Please drop your thoughts.

I want a D3.

Okay.

Which would...

Is that when Volvo started doing this weird thing

where the numbers did not an S?

Yes, it didn't mean...

D3, I believe, is an early one,

is a successor to the D5 that's a 5-pot.

It's a 5-pot?

Yeah, but they're better in some ways.

Apparently, D5 is very reliable,

but can be expensive to be fixing.

A lot of parts, quite a lot.

Whereas those are, believe it or not.

Now, here's my question.

Is the 5-pot because you're like,

all cool 5-pot or is it for a deliberate reason

of reliability or things?

From what I understand, and I will be honest with you,

ChatGBT just listed me off the engines

and what they each of them are before.

So it could be pretty wrong.

But it was...

D3 was, for me, a good balance of power in like

boring reliability, because it's in my daily.

But I think it's time.

Fair.

Because the X5, I really like...

I keep wanting to sell it,

but then I get it and I go,

it's just nice.

This morning driving, it was...

With the comfort seats there, they are the guy.

The tires, they're great.

If a cremer's listing and they want to buy

a third-hand TDC car with all of the miles.

183.

But with brand new rear tires.

And you only need...

And sure, the 4x4 system isn't currently working.

Don't worry about it.

Self-level needs done,

but these all sensors...

Don't worry about it.

I haven't done.

And yeah, does it need all change?

Don't worry about it.

The Dakar is...

I mean, again, it hasn't had that much work.

And it...

I know it's a lot of motorway miles,

which is way less harsh on a car.

But we worked it out the other day, right?

But Dakar, it just...

It works.

It's not letting you down.

Between me and you, it's what?

50,000 miles?

I thought it was between me and you, mate.

Between me and you, will.

Don't tell anybody else this.

I bought it at 138K.

And it's now also 45,000 miles.

45,000, yeah.

So, 183, 45,000.

65,000, in an 18 months.

Shedfest last year, right?

Day before Shedfest last year.

May last year.

So, that's probably between the two others.

What?

Don't count tires and oil,

because any car has that.

You don't need those.

You know?

Well, as I learned.

Ben doesn't count tires.

Get rid of them.

No, but in terms of consumables,

I reckon that car has what?

Two grand a push of maintenance.

That's needed.

Now, Grant, I need stuff now.

I happily admit that.

Yeah.

And it was also a car that was relatively...

It wasn't like taking an absolute dog of an X5.

No, it was a car.

It had a load of bits already done to it.

Yeah.

But still, that...

I mean, Grant, I may end up on the hard shoulder tonight with it.

But it...

Yeah, I think it's time for that guy to be...

Anything else on the shortlist?

That's what, yeah.

What else have you got?

What's it give us a top three?

I want something.

You've got a V60 in there.

Is that dream daily?

Not dream daily.

I really like them.

I've always liked them.

My dad actually had one of those.

Is that where the comfort aspect?

You know that they're comfortable.

My dad had a V60.

He had one they first came out,

one earlier, one pre-faceted one.

I remember just liking it.

Because it's actually quite a smart-looking wagon.

I think they're good.

What else?

Automatic or a manual?

The only thing I have read is that apparently the autos are...

They are somewhat not unreliable,

but I think if you don't service them,

they can be a little bit unhappy.

So that does scare me.

So what else?

Oh, I'll tell you what.

It doesn't have to be daily.

Just what's the one of the week?

What is it?

Either minute, it's all dailys.

Okay.

I've been looking at Golf GTDs as well.

That is not terrible.

Benji's just bought one.

It's a video for Auto Alex.

In Mark 7?

Six.

That was a six.

But you were looking at a six or something?

I like a seven, but I mean the monies.

Would you consider something interesting?

Like something like a hot hatch,

like a turbocharged hatch

that you still get 30 mg, but...

No.

I care about comfort and reliability.

Which again, it's not interesting to listeners.

I think for the...

No, but it is because I think there will be

lots of listeners who are in the exact same boat

who they've tried the going down the path of,

I'm going to have a fun daily

and realizing quite quickly, it gets old.

It's nice to just get in a car that works.

It's like when we asked about who leases cars

and who...

I don't know who that is.

But there's loads of listeners that said,

I have a fun weekend car

and then I lease something boring

because people got to get around.

People don't want to deal with needing

to get their rear tyres done on a Tuesday.

315, 35, 20s.

It's that sort of thing.

I want something smaller

because it goes through bushes and brakes

and tyres and stuff quicker.

A smaller car will definitely be good.

And frankly, I don't need a car that big.

We don't carry that much camera gear.

I don't carry that many people.

The other cool thing,

I know this more on the Mark 7s.

I don't know as much about Mark 6s,

but Mark 7s, you can get like base spec engines,

like two-litre diesels,

but with really high spec stuff for commuting.

My brother's got a Mark 7 Golf.

I think he's got,

I think he's put nearly 200K on in like seven or eight years.

And it's, but it's got radar,

got radar crews on it.

Got radar crews, some nice seats,

but it's a manual.

But it's just meant for commuting.

So he just gets on the motorway,

sticks radar crews on, goes.

I don't mind having a manual to be fair.

Motorway is the biggest sticking point.

Since driving that fiesta,

a fair few miles in that fiesta, actually,

I thought if my commute was short,

that is exactly what I'd have.

Because the fuel needle just doesn't not move.

It's relatively fun to drive.

Nothing costs a huge amount to fix.

And it's, there's no more car that you actually need.

But as soon as you get on a motorway

and you're doing 4,000 RPM,

you can't overtake people unless you're going downhill.

That's when stuff like that.

That's kind of where I'm at without E36.

It was supposed to be a joke daily for a week in the summer.

It's now become my daily for the past three months.

And around town, it's great.

It looks like a race car.

It's got 1.6, 8-valve in it.

I fill it up once every three weeks, maybe.

But then, yeah, when we draw up direct to power,

I was like, I want to not be in this.

I don't want to be here.

You don't really need a CL500.

That's a great point, then.

I would like that, but I don't want to run it.

It's fine. I'm getting at least 20 MPG.

But when I'm in least, I'm in least.

Now I have DS2000, I don't care about the cool facts for my daily.

I want that to be purely functional and I can have this.

I think a GTD is a great show.

I think I actually think so, too.

And it's still incredibly boring to me.

But it's at the upper tier, boring.

But I'll probably get a Tilly diesel.

But they look like Benji's one.

And you get a DSG or whatever.

They look pretty smart.

DSGs do scare me.

Why?

Because I know that they don't go wrong that often.

When they go wrong, they go wrong.

My mum's car actually had a DSG and that went wrong quite badly.

Luckily, it was under warranty, but it went wrong in a big amount of money way.

So that scares me.

Now, here's something else for you, Ben.

Yeah.

If you go in golf, you go in something vague.

You can do the thing that is have a daily that works

and stick it on some springs and some cool wheels.

Could do.

You can have the thing where it still works

as it should.

You don't do anything else to it, but you make it look a bit cooler

if that's something you want.

If not, you just leave it completely bog standard.

Or you do...

Is a GTI that much worse?

Like I looked at Mach 5 GTIs.

Fuel petrol is cheaper.

And I don't know, should it a GTI to a GTD?

You get a bit more car, maybe.

I don't know specs and stuff.

But is it that much worse on fuel?

I'm assuming maybe on a run it probably is more diesel.

This is the TDC effect because Ben pitched us GTD.

You've now gone, but what if GTI, and now that you've said GTI,

Mach 5 GTI, I'm like, Mach 5 R32 would be quite cool.

Yeah.

What about a 5-cylinder swap to a Golf R?

Well, you could get a Passat R36.

Those would be cool.

Or like an R8.

And so it goes.

Yeah.

I don't know.

So maybe that will come soon, but I need to...

Coming to a second channel video sometime this year next.

Yeah.

Ben, wait until you see the Golf on its new wheels and you'll go,

Yeah, I could do that.

So X5, somewhat for sale.

Somewhat.

Set of a message.

If you're actually interested.

Yeah, don't send a message saying I'll give you £8.

So it will be cheap, but don't send a message saying I'll give you £8.

Not that cheap.

Four?

Number?

In the twos.

Okay.

Let's say that.

It's not going to be...

Two million pounds.

Yeah.

We're going to put it on a...

What is it?

A silent bed where you slip a piece of paper.

Send to my Instagram DMs.

Into your house, which is where they found it.

You know what?

Geo, please know.

That would go incredibly well around here.

Someone wants to sell a car and you just have to put a bit in a box.

A sealed bit would be great.

But also you open the box and they'll be a bit for a pound,

a bit for £8 and one bit for possibly £100.

Hey, look, you've got to be in it to win it though.

Exactly.

There you go.

Yeah.

Unfortunately, it's still a Range Rover Classic for me.

I've been...

I've been obsessing over them.

I really, really, really want one.

It's got to be Beluga Black.

Yeah, I don't know.

Found out about that from the comments.

Yes, that it's...

Beluga is not because Beluga Wales,

because they are in fact famously white.

It's Beluga Caviar.

Beluga Caviar, which is the most expensive Caviar,

which makes very much sense for the Range Rover.

Meanwhile, the 3.9 not starting on a cold day.

But it is, yes.

But they're still spendy.

Well, this is the weird thing.

You used to be able to get a Range Rover Classic

for four or five grand in semi-decent condition.

Now, like the minimum working sort of Range Rover Classic

is coming up for 10, which is too much money.

To a 10 grand gets you an L405.

Like that's a nice car.

You'd be in pain.

Oh, yeah, of course.

But you're equally in pain with a Range Rover Classic.

So, yeah, it's just too much money.

Your L322 is completely converted me on the facelift ones.

I now would only ever have a facelift one.

But I've seen it through you.

It's kind of the thing Ben has,

where when the channel has one,

the feeling of special is robbed.

I've had it, yeah.

So now because you've had it,

and I've driven it a few times,

I'm like, I haven't had it.

Been there.

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, I used to have one of them.

So, yeah, the all road is still there as well.

If a cool spec one comes up,

but I want something cheap for now just to run around.

So I don't know.

I may turn up,

may turn up in something next week.

Who knows?

I don't even know.

He probably will.

No one knows.

Brackets I probably won't buy anything.

And we'll suffer the winter in the E36.

No, that won't happen.

Before Christmas, a car enters.

Yeah, that's good.

One car enters and one of Ben's cars will leave.

Maybe.

That's just a prediction I'd like to make.

Thank you very much for listening to this very bickery episode

of Cars Will Leave the Ground Me.

It's the week away at Retro Power.

It gave us time to build.

That's a power that went up.

We'll be back to normal soon.

Thank you very much for listening.

As always, we'll be back next week.

Cars will leave everything around me.

Money.

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