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Grandma's getting into the driveway.

Have we met him?

I felt like a dog chasing a ball.

We were coming around the corner and I was going for the overtake

and he started to spin and he spun into me.

Yeah.

So I pit-maneuvered him and carried on.

I wouldn't say anything.

No.

You can take a picture.

You can take all my clothes off me if I like that.

I just want to walk around.

Is that a naked man walking around?

Hello and welcome back to the 60th Cars Rule Everything Around Me podcast

with myself, Will Edwin to my right and Ben behind the camera.

Hello.

Nice little bit.

There's a little bit quiet in that one.

It is late, though.

We are doing a show.

So this could be a delirious one.

It could be.

It's actually very true.

Anyway, we always start every single one of these podcasts by asking

ourselves if cars rule or ruin everything around us this week.

Edwin, would you like to start us off?

I'm going to say ruin because I still don't own a Range Rover.

It's actually been a while.

It may only be a week for you, but we have not done this

for two weeks odd.

The last time we did it was 10 days.

Last Monday, you have the exact date.

Yeah, we've done it for a while.

I still haven't found a Range Rover.

I'm still looking for one and I'm unhappy.

I'm at a loss with what to do with myself.

Things keep coming up for sale that I would in theory like to buy,

but I'm pinching my pennies and not trying to splurge is my other thing.

So things keep coming up that I'd like to buy, but I don't want to

in case Range Rover comes up or in case Ferrari.

But it is a rule for that reason.

Small rule.

Jeremy's back in the picture.

He was on the phone the day after the you look her the last podcast.

Will and I went to impulse audio to get the car behind us.

The fifth yet fiesta.

Interesting.

The Ford fiesta delirious is already setting in audio done.

I looked out of my phone.

It was a phone number unknown, which I don't know.

I hadn't said it saved it.

It said France picked up.

It was Jeremy.

Jeremy said, I'm sorry, mate.

I've been on holiday.

You've got my my home phone number crazy.

So you've been ringing me for the last few weeks.

No pick up.

So I'm sorry.

He said it's it's still on the cards.

Nothing yet, but it's coming when someone talks about their

home phone.

I'm picturing like a movie phone rattling around and it rings

and it starts shaking rotary phone dot.

Yeah.

So yeah, it's still an overall ruin because lots of annoying

car things and think that's it.

I'm sure it'll come to me throughout the there's always

there's always more ruins.

Benjamin ruin.

What is that, mate?

Well, nothing, nothing bad.

Currently, I just don't have a daily.

I think you hadn't sold it yet.

I think I might have left you as a cliffhanger.

I don't actually remember.

It's been a while.

Sorry, everyone.

Basically, I saw the X5.

X5 is gone.

It's gone.

It went to Jamie, who is who is Jamie to us?

He's a he's a man of all things.

He's jack of all trades.

He was logistics.

Yeah.

He will transport cars and grab parts.

He'll do all of the above and he needed a daily.

He needed a daily.

He has a very nice E39 five series, which he doesn't

want to get all rusty and salty in the winter, which

is fair.

So he wanted a four drive ish X5.

And funnily enough, so he has like a nice car.

He doesn't want to drive in the winter.

So he bought a daily.

Yeah.

So now so you've got an S2000.

You don't really want to drive in the winter.

No, not really.

So you bought a daily before selling it to him, right?

No, no.

I just sold the car.

Okay.

I was I went full opportunist on it and I sold it

because he offered me money for it.

And I wanted with the idea being that because of practicalities

and money that, you know, when a daily comes up,

I can just jump on it.

It's a daily.

There's billions about that.

Yeah.

It's been 10 days.

I haven't got one.

So at least you've got like an idea of what you want.

You know what you want, right?

Like a clear vision of what we're after here.

The car that you were talking about today is the same one

that you were looking at yesterday, right?

It's not completely different maker model and like

even kind of genre of car body shape gearbox and like the

day before that it wasn't different again.

You know, we're staying on.

We're staying on target.

Yeah.

Tough one.

Really tough one.

And that I have a slight time pressure as well

because come Christmas.

I have to all right coming up when Christmas comes around.

Sorry.

I have to drive up north of this country quite far.

It's going to my grandparents who are two of those.

Yes.

So I currently have a baby driving.

Well, well, that's why I'm connected.

We did present the idea that Ben, the two options are

Ben goes up, gets one drives down, yeah, goes back up.

Yeah.

How many round trip that would be?

I was as probably at least seven round.

Okay.

Cool.

So it's 14 hours total.

Lovely.

Or the option is you drive up there and then you let them

both drive down in the S2000.

And then I get the train.

You get the train.

That's actually a shout.

I hadn't thought of that.

Oh, you could do a top guest on race with them.

And you could fly back.

They will try.

I agree to do this months ago.

Grandma's getting into the driveway.

Have we met him?

Yeah.

I agreed months ago to do it and I then I had to

like sort of sheepishly like tell my mum like, hi,

I haven't got all I have an S2000, a lowered S2000,

which is not a comfortable car at all.

And it has one seat.

So grandma's getting going.

Those RPF ones, mate.

Those are the nine inch asset.

Those are lovely.

Those two two fives are 9J.

No, I wouldn't recommend that.

Stretch on there.

Yeah.

So yeah, I need to buy a daily.

Also, I'm driving 100 miles to work in a S2000,

which in this weather is quite tough.

Quite nice.

So overall, you're happy.

So that's a real win for you.

So overall, it's a ruin because I'm very

lucky to have this 2000 and I like it a lot,

but it's making me not like it because I have to

rely on it and daily and drive it in the salt.

And I know I'm going to ruin it.

So among other things, which we'll get to another episode,

you did bid on a car.

I did.

That was one proud moment we had.

You plucked up the balls to bid on a car over there,

which was a golf GTI.

A Mark 6.

Now, a really quite a tasty one.

And I wish I bid more now on reflection.

Now, because of that, you're going to get

loads of people messaging you.

Yeah.

But you're going to get a Mark 4, 1, 8, T's.

Yeah.

Oh my gosh.

Amazing.

It's a DSG Mark 6.

And one that has preferably some service history.

And this one did and it would look really nice.

And it's to be fair, the reserve was quite low.

I got all scared and didn't bid very much.

But it also went very, like it went.

It was quite a bit.

1200 pounds in reserve.

Well, the funny thing is usually on car wow,

you'll bid and there'll be three other bids,

four other bids.

There were 13 other bids on this car.

I think it was 15 in the end.

That's what I said to Ben.

I'll be honest.

It's not looking good.

It's not.

Yeah.

But I just thought about that.

That's a two car garage.

A little DSG Mark 6 Golf GTI as a daily.

A little amp, amp, amp, amp.

That would be very nice.

You know, I'll probably just buy a 1.9 TDI instead really.

Who knows?

Not me.

It is a random.

It could be anything.

Ben comes in with a completely different car.

Tomorrow it'll be,

I feel like it's all about like a Hurricane Parfumante as a daily.

I'm not too sure.

The next day it'll be a London taxi.

I quite like the idea of buying like a 1.9 TDI Golf for a thousand pounds

and just using that.

Do it.

Because it's just cheap and then spending seven pounds a year

and then I can put more money into this thousand.

But that is also probably not going to be very fun in practice.

Will, do you?

I will just say, Rool, there are some minor ruins in there.

I would just say, actually, I think there's no storage.

There's a glottis back and better than ever.

And then now sort of not better than ever.

Yeah.

I'll get to that in a sec.

CL is actually on the cusp of audio.

This evening at my home currently has been a delivered from Poland.

A reconditioned amplifier that if I plug it in and I still hear silence,

I might just let the hand rake off and see where it goes.

Range Rover.

It's cost me a bit of money recently, but that's to sell anyway.

Now you hadn't been driving the Range Rover and then you fixed it.

Yeah.

This last week and you drove it for a few days.

Quite nice.

Yeah.

Yeah, quite nice.

But it did a bit because it's something about Range Rover that the things

that the CL doesn't do, it's the amount of space.

It's the headroom.

It's just feeling like a bit of a Lord in it.

Not that you don't feel like that in the CL, but it's in a different

kind of way in it.

In CSCL, you feel like some sort of CEO of a sort of snidey business.

Whereas Land Rover, I'm your classless.

My ancestors were really messing people up in order to get rich.

There were spices being stolen all over, but I'm God, I'm selling tea.

But I still think I'll probably sell it because I'm just in that mindset

now where it kind of needs to go and I have plans for the CL

because I might have ordered some wheels from Chinese.

Some Chinese wheels have been ordered from the CL.

They're quite cool and they're probably going to be here in a month or two.

But yeah, the Glado was all good.

So if I can't remember what I said before, but obviously clutch was an L

but that is now fixed.

The other issues were it had a battery drain, which is now fixed.

That was two trackers that were still in the car.

What was the other thing? No radio.

That is now fixed because that was to do with the battery drain.

So you have music in, so I have two cars.

Yep, I've listened to ACOM smack that in the Glado, which is wonderful.

And the other thing was the fact that there was no blowers or anything.

And that turned out to be because someone removed the fuse, which is nice.

Yeah, I thought that was fixed.

But then we went to a Christmas meet the other day and when you're driving

in winter, obviously that's when things tend to steam up the most and that sort of thing.

And my drive there was fantastic.

It was all wonderful.

Drive home, not so great.

I was driving along and it was very foggy.

It was the same way it was.

I couldn't see it through ahead of me.

Like country roads, no light, take me home.

Foggy as hell.

Yep.

And the thing that started fogging up, I thought, that's strange.

I do have defrost thing on, which should be, you know, you can hear it normally blown away.

Nothing.

So there must be something blowing a fuse there.

I don't know what it is.

Also an airbag light.

Oh, that's nice.

That just came out of nowhere.

That one.

Other than that, it's pretty good because other than that, it runs really well.

I was going to say with the clutch now.

You have that, but you also have five litre V10 noise.

I was just the drive we did up there.

We did the sort of a bit of a convoy and it was crap weather for that.

It was tough to summer when things were a bit.

You know what?

That made me made me excited for summer.

There was, however, there was a clear, there was a clear distinction

because there was the Glado, Rory's V8 Vantage, an M3 Touring of Alex,

a 540i Supercharge, making 400 horsepower.

So there was kind of pack one.

And then in pack two, perhaps two pack, you might call it, rest of the piece,

you had Ben leading, really in the S2000.

He was, he was kind of middle ground, although I was at the back,

because I was scared of dying.

Exactly.

Because it was raining.

Then a 316 with me in it, Mike in a Z3 1.9 and then Jamie in an E39 6-cylinder of some sort.

So there were two very distinct differences in the people joining.

And you could tell by how far ahead pack one was from pack two.

Yeah.

Because I was, I felt like a dog chasing a ball.

I was like, come back guys.

Wait for me.

Yeah.

It was lots of sensible.

It was quite sensible.

It was sensible.

The weather was a little, it was quite dry.

Then it got quite rainy.

Even I was a little bit like, I don't really.

It's all come on an aqua plane into Rory's Aston Martin.

Nine car supercar piled up from the M4.

YouTube was killed in, in, in crash on the whatever motorway that was.

The entire business.

Hold on.

Everyone got.

Not all three channels, two out of three channels.

Also, Jack and Ethan out here trying to repair cars and work on both channels.

But that was on the way to the Christmas meet.

Exactly.

Which was a, which was a really cool meet.

So we did a sort of auto or food and fuel.

It was a Christmas meet at Duncan's.

If you haven't, now take this as, as however you will, but we aren't

actually involved in food and fuel.

We don't get anything from this, but it's a very good event.

Yeah.

Like a legitimately, you will probably know if you've been to car events,

especially in the UK, the cars tend to be really good, but everything

else tends to be quite shit.

Bad food.

Especially the food.

It's well mostly.

There's usually a burger van that serves a very basic burger.

I'm going to call something out.

Oh God.

Goodwood is the worst offender.

Yeah, it's fair.

Goodwood Festival of Speed is one of the most incredible shows, shows,

events, whatever you want to call it on earth.

And yet the food is dross every single time.

And there are so many food places and they're the same every year.

Yeah.

It's always terrible.

Yeah.

But that place, Thuncatons yesterday, woo wee.

And like the concept of food and fuel again, it's not our thing.

So we didn't have any, we didn't have any of this.

We is obviously part of the wider business sort of thing.

I think, but it, the concept of it is great.

It's good car events with some interesting cars and the food is genuinely good.

And I'm going to say it, just feel as a consumer, the thrill for we've done

though, every single time I've left it wanting to, rather than thinking,

oh, I had bad food thinking, I think it's try enough.

Yeah, legit.

Yeah.

It's hard to choose.

I was annoyed.

Well, I had the Chinese thing and it was good to carry.

It was fantastic.

So anyway, hopefully we'll see you at one of the next food and fuel

cause they are genuinely do one.

If you don't like it, then you can, you can, you can peg.

Whoa.

Sorry.

I was going to say a nail us to the cross is, is okay.

Yeah.

There is one in March, right?

Well, I think a bister again.

I think.

Yeah.

This one's already good.

Plots planned next year, including and maybe, maybe a cream event.

Hey, there might be a cream.

They might, there's current, we're thinking of lots.

They're not just a cream event, but also maybe a fast and furious watch along.

Ooh, well, I'll be there.

We know he will be tying Ben to a chair.

And if you think we're not actually tying him to the chair, you're wrong.

You are the sole purpose of that.

If you're honest, we're not going to go there and watch it again.

We will watch it again.

What we want to have is fast and furious on the screen on a cinema screen

and then a screen to the side that's live Ben reaction cam.

Just of your face.

It's going to be the, it's the Shilaboo thing.

But I'm just yamming back popcorn and not really watching.

But so yeah, we keep an eye on that in the, in the near future.

Shall we get on?

So wait, why your rule?

I was a rule, but there were lots of ruins in that room.

Perfect.

I'm ruining your ruin.

Okay.

Two ruins a rule.

We'll take it.

Yeah.

And Joe, I tried it this week.

And as usual, please comment.

If you are a rule of ruin yourself.

Lovely.

Good to hear.

Read your rules and ruins.

We do.

And hopefully feel better about ours.

All the creamers band together on your ruins.

Shall we start with stuff and things?

Surely.

The first one on the list.

Ben will be very pleased about on the car podcast.

Light it up.

Is it perhaps?

Have we landed yet?

It is.

Have we landed yet?

Just a small bit of bullying.

We went to France last week, as you would have seen

because you saw us on our drive back to the airport.

And we, in the last podcast, we can't confirm or deny anything.

But the results are unverified.

What I can say is that we've read the brochure.

Yep.

We, you know...

My ride?

You know, we've seen your ride.

And also, you know, I thought you loved me.

Yeah.

You know, it looks like I've got a new date for prom.

What are you talking about?

Don't worry about it, Ben.

You got a date for the prom?

Yeah, new one.

Oh, well.

Sort of like 35-year-old looking teenager, I think.

Yeah, you are.

Yeah.

That's tough.

So anyway, on to Ben's little mishap on the plane.

So we were on a plane.

We were.

On this plane.

It was very early in the morning.

And we booked three seats together.

You know, you get the three seats that sit together.

All three of us.

Very discreet.

You know, some planes have two seats out front.

Some planes have two.

We were in...

We weren't in the pilot deck.

We were back there in the passage.

We were all quite, quite big chaps.

The plane seats aren't that big.

We had an exit road to be first.

We had leg room.

But we were...

Shout out to Will's mum.

Thank you very much for helping us with that.

Huge.

Any context to that one?

My mum works at BA.

Shout out to Will's mum.

So after a while on the plane,

I was sat in between the two of them on both ways.

I thought, it's can't run.

So there was actually an early flight

and it was a Monday morning.

The plane wasn't that full.

What?

Sorry, I just...

So I moved away from these two.

How does this have any impact on what the point is?

Because I'm saying is I tried to get away from you

to not get bullied.

Oh, okay.

Although I will say it took some courage.

Because Ben was obviously scared

that if he moved seat,

he would be moving from his designated seat,

which in his mind is illegal.

Not allowed.

And then the plane police will come along

and say, are you out of your seat?

Are you out of your mind?

Yeah, but what does that seat cost more?

No, no.

It's because when they book the plane,

they put everyone...

It's strategically for weight in the right place.

So if you get up...

It's a corner.

It's going down.

I was worried because when on exit row,

the flight attendants would take off

and they come and sit basically opposite you.

I was scared if I sat on the other side,

which had no one on the other three seats.

The flight attendants would come and sit opposite me

and then tell me off.

While you're boasting,

you're now the seatbelt sign is on,

so you can't get out.

She's just sitting there going,

you idiot.

You can't be there.

See me after the flight.

If I could get out this seat,

oh, I'd have you right now.

But we had a quite pleasant flight, actually,

because the flight out was incredibly empty.

So it was lovely.

There was people laying across the seat.

Nice chat with the flight attendants.

So I got found up a wheel touching my leg constantly.

So instead, there is a photo.

We could possibly put it on the screen.

So I moved to the other exit row

and then we'll carried on

this time taking photos of me

and then editing them on the phone.

Ben's just tried to let it.

Can I please, can we just get to the point?

Yeah, do explain.

Right.

So we were perhaps 10 minutes from landing.

Yeah.

Clearly flying.

Like obviously flying.

The pilot had said,

we're about to start descending

maybe three minutes earlier.

He just thought we took a nosedive out of the air.

There was maybe a little bit of turbulence

because you get that, you know,

you come in through the clouds.

All right.

You know, more than one for Ben.

And they're coming through the clouds

with a little bit of turbulence

and then looked over to us and said,

have we landed?

But again,

because when the exit row,

there was no window next to me.

There's the door and you can't,

from the angle we're at,

I couldn't see anything out the window.

And it was quite cloudy.

So I didn't know if we'd landed.

The best part is the both flight attendants

had gone and sat down by this point,

one across from me and one across from Ben.

And I know that the one across from you had,

but the best thing is I was in the middle of a conversation

with the one across from me

because she was saying her dad's or someone's

had an old mark, W124.

So I was locked in.

So I was excited.

And as Ben said it,

she literally paused them and scowled

and looked across at Ben

like she'd never seen a human before

and then went,

yeah, okay.

Now, yeah, he's had it for about 15 years.

It was an interesting take.

It was as if it was your first time on a plane.

More than they shouldn't judge

because it could have been.

Yeah, fair.

It wasn't, but it could have been.

I don't know why I thought we landed.

It was quite a big bit of turbulence suddenly.

And then it's like,

obviously when you land,

it's like a sudden sort of impact

and it goes away straight away

because you're just rolling at that point.

It was like that.

It was like a sudden bit of turbulence.

I thought, we're on the ground.

So I said to these two,

Ben looked at the window and went,

bloody hell, let's fuck you out there.

We've landed in the sea.

How's this possible?

We're just skimming along the channel.

I was 500 miles an hour on the ground.

Slow down if you're kidding.

I was like, oh dear,

we're descending minutes later.

We've landed.

We have landed.

We're at baggage.

You may or may not have noticed,

but I'm not a pilot.

So I don't know.

I don't think you need a pilot to make love to that.

Anyway, that was quite funny.

And we laughed about that for a long time

and put it straight into our podcast chat.

Ben, you've put it in McLaren, Tom.

I know what it's about,

but I'd like you to explain it.

Oh, lovely.

So we...

Some revenge, perhaps.

Yes.

So we went the day after this.

So this was the Tuesday.

When the Monday went to Paris,

the next day we had a lovely day

at the McLaren Technology Centre.

Oh, crazy.

It sounds like we are balling out right now.

Yeah, it does actually.

But we had a day there with Logitech,

a little partnership with them we did.

And we got to go to the McLaren Technology Centre

and look around all the cars

and play on some sims.

It was great.

Well, and also the F1 things,

which was...

It's lost on me,

but you guys said was very, very special.

We got to go into the actual...

Is it workshops, manufacturers, facilities?

It is literally where they were building this...

Where they build on...

Build on.

Where they build and work on this years

or the current F1 cars basically.

There's another workshop

where they're working on some of the classic stuff.

But one of the original like Bruce McLaren,

like the original McLaren race car basically.

One of the Indy cars as well.

And they had...

The wooden boards?

Yeah.

So that was what we were looking at.

So obviously the previous race,

both McLaren drivers were disqualified for.

It's like a skid plate underneath,

made of wood because the depth

or whatever was too little

by like a quarter of a millimetre

that sat on a sideboard somewhere

was just two of those boards.

And we were like...

I don't know if they were

because they'd just been to...

Obviously they would have literally

been in Vegas like 48 hours before.

They did say that they did say

lots of stuff gets flown back.

But the thing is,

imagine my bewilderment

when Kai I've got no idea of this.

We walk around this thing

and Ben and Will both go...

And then they walk that

and I walk over with them to a table

and they point at two planks of wood.

Which to me,

I didn't know was in a formula one car.

So I was like, what's this?

But we did get to see this year's McLaren.

Norris's F1 car, the actual one he's using

in bits basically

because they had it apart for whatever.

I don't think it was his car

because it was his one from a couple of racers back

or like...

It was from this season, yeah.

But it had...

Basically it had...

I can't...

I think it was the front was together

but the rear was fully stripped

and you could see the engine block itself.

Nothing else attached to it.

Just engine block.

I didn't know that.

It's basically structural.

It sits in between.

We weren't allowed any...

There's obviously...

There's no cameras at all.

They even said...

He said one of the guys giving us tour

that usually they sometimes will take people's phones from them.

Like, you're not allowed anything.

So currently there's probably some other teams

listening to this right now going,

OK, what about that engine block?

Mate, you're done.

No, because I'm sure that's the same for every F1 car.

You've just broken the NDA.

You're done.

There was no NDA.

Well, we couldn't say what.

There was one thing they told us that.

I was quite surprised.

When they showed us where they transport,

they send F1 cars in bits.

They don't just ship a whole F1 car,

like a sort of model car in a box.

But he said that they send multiple bits

via different transport methods.

Yeah.

So in case like if they send it all on a boat,

or they send it all on a plane or a helicopter or whatever,

and the plane crashes or the train crashes or whatever,

they don't just live in an F1 car.

You just build five different F1 cars out of it.

But also they were just in boxes.

Like cardboard boxes.

So they are recyclable.

But mental.

I mean, it wasn't an Amazon package size.

I mean, it's a big box,

but it wasn't a huge box.

It was a really cool place.

Although, well,

at least both of us were walking around.

They gave us a really good tour.

Some of it we couldn't film,

but we kept looking into the depths of the building.

It's like Hogwarts.

Yeah.

There's a Chamber of Secrets there somewhere.

There's a W1 in the background that we were like,

can we go and look at it?

He was like, no, you can't go back there.

There's like stuff under covers, camouflage stuff.

And I just want like a night at the museum.

Yeah.

I won't break anything.

I'll just look.

I won't say anything.

No.

You can take all my clothes off me for like that.

I just want to walk around.

Is that a naked man walking around?

Don't mention the W1.

Oh, he's sat in Norris F1 car.

And we did get to touch an F1.

As an amateur F1.

Yeah.

Now that was my favorite thing.

Oh, yeah.

There were all varieties of Claren F1,

excluding the F1 GT.

They don't have that anymore.

And he was the guy giving us tours.

Very nice.

And he said,

I just go ahead and you can close it.

He opened the door for us to look in.

You can close that when I looked at each other.

He said,

which one was it?

He said, feel how light the door is.

And he started banging it back and forth.

F1 GT, a long tail.

And he said, feel that.

And he was like, obviously, gently.

But he was like, it was on the gastro.

And he was like, just feel that.

Bring it on down.

And I never felt something so light in my life.

That was the one that asked me to close it.

I shit my pants.

Did you?

Yeah.

I've never shot something so delicately.

How much do you reckon that was worth,

that shot in the door?

More than I can afford power.

I reckon that was.

That's going to be at least a half a mil.

A thousand pounds worth of wear on the hinge.

Oh, sure.

If you think about how much the car is worth.

Now, more importantly though,

hands out Cream Central at the McLaren MTC.

Yep.

Because we met.

A, we met one set of creamers there.

Yep.

They just came over and said.

Tom, which we will get into more.

But then afterwards, it's just a thousand different people

messaging on Instagram going,

oh, look there.

I didn't know you were there.

I would have come and said hi.

You know, like in supermarkets where they play music.

It's that MTC.

It's just this podcast.

They're just listening to it.

And then probably after the last galardo video would go out.

I mean, this man could be fake for all I know,

but I think he is because I Googled him.

I got a message from my Richard Yeo.

Yeah.

So I don't even know why you know.

And he said, oh, that's our McLaren WR W1.

And then there are little message requests really,

really, really pricked my ears up.

I was like, what do you mean our McLaren W1?

He said, oh, yeah, no, that's,

that's our development car.

I work at McLaren.

We need to put 30,000 miles on it.

Crazy.

I want to say, I might be getting this wrong.

I think he's a principal engineer or some is an engineer.

Big time.

He works at McLaren.

Yeah.

He works at McLaren and he gets to put 30,000 miles on a W1.

So that's cool.

He said he might even bring it by the unit for us.

That would be very cool.

We probably won't be able to touch it,

but we can see it from a distance.

So shout out all of the MTC creamers.

Perhaps McLaren technology creamers.

Spread the word.

That's what it stands for.

Spread the word and let everyone know that we want to come back

and look at the depths naked.

If you'd be able to leave the door unlocked,

I will steal the left one.

And also, you can share with Secret Stuff

and we will not talk about it.

I'll tell you that.

I promise.

We'll make an NDA.

Genuinely.

We will.

We just want to see.

We'll do anything.

It's not legally budding to McLaren.

We've made it for us.

They can't say anything about what we can do.

We say, I promise.

Anyway.

Sorry.

So at the end of the day,

we were finishing up with Logitech stuff.

We had to do a little outro.

And these guys said,

okay, we've got a few minutes.

That's all right.

Cool.

I'll get some B-roll of the cars.

Get some nice stuff of inside.

I stood there and I get a Ben.

I was like, hello.

Turn around.

And it's Tom.

Who you guys can explain who Tom is.

Tom.

I said, I said to Tom,

he described to us who was,

I said, I'll bring to the boys.

So I bought him to the boys.

And then what happened?

Tom said to us, hello.

I'm Tom.

And I, the moment he said,

And it was Tom.

And the moment he said,

hello, I'm Tom,

my brain went, I know who Tom is.

Tom is the man that messaged us a year ago saying,

would you like a tour of the McLaren

technology centre?

And we said, absolutely.

And then never responded to it.

Yeah.

But immediately we said,

I'm very sorry, Tom.

We're genuinely sorry.

But we made it there in the end.

We're here in the end.

It doesn't matter how we got there.

It just matters how we got there.

And he was genuinely very nice about it to be fair.

Which is what we do appreciate.

And to be honest, it's on us.

No, it absolutely is.

There's no excuse.

We got caught up in other stuff

and we didn't respond.

No.

We did talk about it on podcast.

Yeah, exactly.

Without replying,

which is, you know,

it's possible to step to stuff.

No, of course, yeah.

But that's how we reply to things.

We won't like actually reply.

We just,

It's like listening to a public service

announcement.

A World War Two message.

It comes in in beeps and you go,

All right, I've got it.

I've got it.

So I would like to propose something to the gang.

Here we go.

Tom is cream of the week.

Tom is the cream.

We said to him.

Yeah.

I think that's fair.

Yeah.

The month.

Oh, okay.

Ben's going out on.

I don't think we can just keep,

you know, just escalating.

He's the creamer of the decade.

The year.

He's never gets any better than this.

All right.

Sorry to be honest.

Also,

one other point from the MTC

is that Edwin managed to

piss off another creator.

I did.

That was quite funny.

In McLaren's actual sim racing room,

they have a professional team

and they have proper sim rigs.

And so they put us in groups for this tour.

And Will's group was, it was Will,

Will myself and this other gentleman

name unknown.

But he was taking it seriously.

We all got in the sims.

I immediately saw all my cysts were on.

Now we're on Formula One.

I don't play Formula One.

I don't watch it.

I don't care for it that much.

So I was like,

I'm leaving your cysts on.

The race started.

I forgot that you had to put it in gear.

So Will and this man left me at the start of the race.

And I was like, oh, well,

I'm behind five seconds anyway.

Turns out,

because I have all the assists on,

I was quite quick because it was essentially like,

you know, those arcade games that children play

where it's just the wheels just spinning

around and around,

but yet the car travels perfectly.

It was that.

So I made up five seconds quite quickly.

And then we were coming around the corner

and I was going for the overtake

and he started to spin

and he spun into me.

So I pit-maneuvered him and carried on.

And he was already spinning.

So I just carried on.

At the end of the race,

and I heard some angry noises behind me,

some displeased racing driver type.

I was on pace there.

Words like pace were used.

Words like racing lines, stewards.

I heard all sorts of words.

C-word.

All I heard was me coming first.

Oh Jesus.

And then also I won the race.

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I came second.

The race was great.

I passed a spinning McLaren.

I thought, I actually thought that must be Edwin, surely.

And then I turned out after the race,

because I was convinced I'd finished third in this race.

So Edwin was like, no, I won.

I was like, what?

And I came second.

So it was off the bat, cream one two, 2DC one two.

And then after the race, they were like,

right, we're going to reset.

We're going to put you in a new race.

And one of the people from McLaren

walked up to this guy behind us and said,

it's changed anything.

I heard the saltiest thing he went,

well, I mean, if those guys want to turn their assists off

and race properly, then yeah, we can do.

I'm just saying, I only had ABS on.

That was it.

And traction control on medium.

But the best part is after we finished this,

they were like, you will go for lunch,

grab a sandwich next door,

and we were the first people in the room.

We all sat down and this guy went,

right, then who was it?

Which one of you spun me out?

They were like, all right.

It was a joke, but it had this undertone of,

actually, who was that?

I'm actually annoyed.

I'm a racing driver.

Because we spoke to a few people before,

because basically there was a challenge that was like,

throughout the day,

whether the fastest person is in like a lap time

and whoever wins the race races

might win something at the end.

So we were like, okay,

we think we've got a good chance.

And then we found out that a couple of other guys,

they do race.

So we thought, you know what?

We're stuffed.

But then, you know, first race, one two.

Second race?

One two.

I was first and then you were second.

He was third, you know, that's how that works.

And then the last race,

I think he did win that one, fair enough.

You know, you probably cheated or something.

You must have put the assists on.

You must have found the assists.

Crazy.

But it was podiums for cream and TDC all around.

And somehow we didn't win.

No, we didn't win it.

So we'll be back, MTC and Sim setups.

Ben, you enjoyed the Sim setup?

Yeah, I had a go.

I did go.

One of the toughest things I've watched.

It was really tough.

So when we, when, when we conceptualize the video,

there was a discussion about me going on the Sims.

That's part of it.

And I said to these guys, I'm going to be bad.

And they said, what if we get intuition from an actual Sim racer?

And I said, he was one of the champion Sim racers in the world.

And I said, I'll stay bad.

And what happened on the day?

I was really quite bad.

And to be fair, he really helped me.

I think on a lap of Silverstone, I got 30 seconds quicker,

which implies just how badly my first lap was.

And yeah, but even then it was tough.

I didn't actually set a single valid lap because there was one corner

that I just couldn't do and I would kept going off.

And then yeah, I'm bad on the Sim.

But overall shout out Logitech, shout out McLaren,

shout out the Creamers at the MTC.

Shout out Tom.

Big up Tom.

Big up McLaren.

Next up on the list, Edwin, you've put in a CLK FBI.

I've not heard this model.

You've, well, you may have seen there's been news afoot

that the FBI has seized a Mercedes CLK GTR.

Oh, I saw this.

The man in question has done something to warrant something.

I believe what he was was an exportsman or an athlete.

I think he might have even been an Olympic something

and had turned to a life of crime and fraud and what such.

And the FBI said, you know what, we're having that.

That's going to be committed, but we'd like that.

Well, but the reason that I brought it up is

because the FBI have a history of this.

They confiscated an F50 back in the day and then crashed it.

What did they do that for?

Yeah, exactly.

On purpose?

No.

So supposedly what happened from memory,

I remember doing a video on that for car throw,

someone did something about something at all.

Okay.

FBI said, nah, not on our watch seized all their cars.

One of which being a Ferrari F50.

Bro, just called crimes.

They crammed.

They stuck it in a storage facility.

One day, some FBI man said, let's take the F50 out.

Because it was not, they were not supposed to be driving the car.

They got it wrong and stuck an F50 into a bush.

It like mashed up the side of it.

And so for a long time, this insurance company

who technically owned the car were like, yo,

we had a mint pristine F50.

You've crashed it.

And the FBI went, doesn't sound like our problem,

if I'm honest.

And they just washed their hands of it and said, nah,

we're not paying for anything.

So we could see a mashed CLK.

So that's what I'm saying.

So I know that everyone knows that now that this car

the FBI's got it.

But more importantly, don't let those keys out to anyone.

Or else suddenly they go, you know what?

We should take that to lunch.

They're going to go, that CLKG?

No, it was crashed when we got it.

It is understandable.

That's TDC if we ran the FBI.

Good God, I've been nicking those keys.

If we ran the FBI, lunch would be.

Yeah.

The TDC.

Yeah.

The, the.

Terminally.

Totally detective.

In it.

Company.

Yeah, sure.

Why not?

Oh, I'd said, I don't know why I got TDI.

That's why I got diesel inject.

Next up on here is another screenshot from you, Edwin.

It's a very long email from a man whose subject is BMW blue

and forum question.

This is the one right now.

I'm going to do the BMW blue and then we will end on his

forum question a bit later.

This is a man called James who believes he may have found

the color that you wanted from the BMW.

Now I've searched up the color that he's asked for.

And I don't know that it's easier.

Some context of the BMW color.

Will saw a car in a, in a place that we went in Carmel in

California, which we haven't mentioned.

We went to trying.

I was trying my best not to mention it all week.

Hi there.

I cream team leaders.

I work in an auto paint shop and all I do all day is mix paint.

I've seen and mixed nearly every color for cars all over

the place, even the pearl lime green on an LFA.

So when you mentioned the FATM threes mystery blue,

I thought I'd give it a go from what I can find digging

through every single BMW color card when I should have been

working.

Shout out my stuff.

The only thing that matches Edwin's description is BMW

Mediterranean blue code of C 10.

It's not quite Tanzanite.

It's deeper than into Lagos and it's listed as being used

on M series cars for the FAT range.

I'd love to attack picture.

My camera sucks and Google is poor at best without seeing

the car.

It's difficult to say if I'm in the wrong call me a

clown, but hey, it's better than doing any real work

sound like a cream.

And then he also was talking about the Sierra that

was talking about, but I must do some more research.

But I think it could be it could be it because that car

hasn't just it just pops up to my mind and frustrates

me daily.

Just know when we go back, we're fine.

That's one of our goals of the week is to find that car

and get him to pop his bonnet and look at his tag.

Someone knows.

Someone will know something about anything.

If I find out it's a wrap.

I will be disappointed.

But we also have paint.

We also have a forum question.

We will get to that a little bit later.

So we'll loop back around to James in a bit.

Also, we must find Mr.

Bugga.

Ben.

No, no.

No, Ben.

No.

Will and I have been keeping a secret for the last two

weeks.

You mentioned something about I'm so excited.

Is it Mr.

Bugga?

Mr.

Bugga has been found.

No, he hasn't.

Mr.

Bugga.

Can you even more simple than you might think?

Yeah.

Can you can you forward me the on just on Slack?

I actually you said to me for context, everyone

listening, these guys said to me, I mentioned Mr.

Bugga and they said, don't look at one of the

guys.

I thought maybe it was a joke or something.

But no, Mr.

Bugga.

I don't believe you.

I'm so excited right now.

It was it was far more simple than you might

think, actually.

This big man of mystery was discovered.

You know, it's a bit like, you know, the

Osama bin Laden thing where they just sort of

found him his house.

I think that took possibly eight years.

He was exactly where did they find him?

He was exactly where he was at home.

No, he was at our house.

He's never going to be at home, is he?

Wait, where haven't we checked yet?

His house?

No, he wouldn't be there.

Don't be silly.

I think there's a documentary you need to watch.

No, I'm not going to bother.

Okay.

He was found many years later.

It took him a long time to find him.

Now, Ben, are we ready?

I don't because on the screen right now

is Mr.

Bugga.

Now.

What?

That isn't the car we saw.

Mr.

Bugga.

It is.

Now there is an email from a man who has

found it.

From Mitch.

So Mitch says.

Mr.

Bugga.

He says.

He has an Instagram.

Mr.

Bugga.

Unsurprisingly.

That should have been our first.

I'm going to follow that straight away.

We should have even looked.

But that's, there he is now.

Please no clowns.

As always.

Be a considerate creamer.

Don't go and bother Mr.

Bugga.

You're not funny.

He's Mr.

Bugga is, he's our guy.

You know what?

He's all of the creamer's mates,

but he doesn't need to know

he's a mate of the creamer.

But here we go.

I've included a shot of this car.

He is a car enthusiast.

Love what you guys do.

Unfortunately, I was ruled medically unfit

to drive about eight years ago

due to medical diagnosis.

So I live vicariously through you

lot.

Keep it up, you guys.

Mitch.

Shout out to you, Mitch.

Thank you very much for doing.

I'm sorry.

I'm sorry, Tom.

Co-creamer of the week.

Because that's Mr.

Bugga.

Mr.

Bugga.

And I don't remember it

looking like that.

No, never do I.

I do.

I remember the colour.

Now here's the best part.

When you go on Mr.

Bugga's account.

I have this like this flashback memory

of just the license plate surround

almost like vignette in just blurred

on the edges of just Mr.

Bugga.

Mr.

Bugga has he's sponsored by someone.

When you click on that, it's like a

company.

When you click on the company, it says

based in Salinas, California.

Salinas.

Because that was our joke is that

it was in Salinas.

But no, it wasn't.

It was in it was in seaside.

It was.

That's what I mean.

The joke cause whenever I say,

have you seen Mr.

Bugga to everyone off camera,

he'll go know he's in Salinas

which is why it is.

He's in Salinas.

No way.

Mr.

Bugga has been found alive and

well.

We still don't know like the origin

of the name.

He has been found, but there is

more digging to be done.

We kind of want to understand

the origin of the name.

I'm going to message him.

No one else messaged him.

Ben is the only person to

message him and ask genuinely

nicely not be a clown.

The story.

Because I'd like to now explain

who we are.

That we are a big fan of his

work.

We are.

And that he is Mr.

Bugga.

So please do not.

And to message Mr.

Bugga.

That has actually made my week.

You have it?

I'm so excited.

Mr.

Bugga discovered.

I don't know why.

Now to find his origin story.

Mr.

Bugga and the way that Edwin

says it when he picks the

phone up to me, always makes

me laugh.

It tickles my brain the way

that I can't describe.

Well, there you go.

There's a little bit of upside

for the day.

What we got next.

Next up, Edwin from you

Valkyrie MOT.

Here is an interesting thing.

The government in the UK,

well, before that, when you

have a car in the UK and

it's older than three years

old, you must MOT it.

It's expected.

You must get it checked out.

And if it passes that check,

you may drive on the road

for another year.

Now here I've pulled up the

government website and it

advises testing advice for

cars and passenger vehicles

guidance for MOT testers.

And it has a list of cars and

things about them that you

must keep an eye on if

you're testing a vehicle.

Now I'm going to click on

Aston Martin.

I want you to read what

this says for me.

Well, okay.

Aston Martin scroll down

to the Valkyrie here.

Read what that says.

If someone brings an Aston

Martin Valkyrie to your

MOT center, you must

decline the test and advise them

to contact Aston Martin

Lagonda, Lagonda client

services to arrange an MOT

test.

This is because the vehicle

requires specialist

jacking adapters which are

held by the manufacturer.

If you try to test or lift

the vehicle without these

adapters, you will cause

significant damage to the

carbon fiber body and then

details of said services.

So the government are

saying you may not test

that.

That's crazy.

You're not allowed to

test the test.

I don't know if this existed.

No, there's not this list

I'm going to be scrolling

through.

I had a look.

There's not that much

that interesting.

No, no McLean F1, no

Lamborghini, no Ferrari, but

like a bath.

The 500 has one position

on or off light switch

for the indicator stalk.

Just like boring things to keep

in mind, but there's

nothing.

I haven't gone fully through

it.

Is there a Zonda R?

Porsche models with parking

brake actuators.

This is real geek stuff.

This is great.

Well, Porsche 91192

manufactured from week 48

2021.

Yeah, specifically.

What does it say?

Renault Clio Mark II.

Wow.

Were the VINs starting

specifically that?

There is no external link.

Great.

The load sensing valve.

I don't know what that

means.

Also, sorry.

Sorry.

Just a quick one.

Renault Clio Mark II, the

bonnet catch on these

vehicles may not work

properly if it's not

properly maintained.

It will just break.

Clio Cup 182.

It's just great.

What's the Rolls-Royce one?

Rolls-Royce to test the

E.P.B., the electronic

parking brake.

Make sure the gearbox

is neutral, that sort of stuff.

So these are things that

the manufacturer will

submit to the government

to say, look, whoever's

doing this must keep in

mind these things.

And I had a quick

look and I couldn't see

anything else that's

like the Valkyrie.

The Valkyrie straight up.

No.

You may not.

You've got to go straight

to Aston Martin for that.

That's crazy.

I love the idea that

it's what I don't even know,

at least millions of pounds,

right?

And you bring it down to

Dave at the local garage.

And he's going to do an

all-out pit MOT.

He's wearing his overalls.

And he's like, yeah,

I'll have a quick look at it,

mate.

Like as if it's going to

have like perished brake

lines or something.

You can text it up.

He just goes,

OK.

I've got a fail.

It's got a crack in the

chassis.

Can you, just sorry, this

possibly can cut this

if it's not interesting.

Can you on Tesla?

Because that seems like a

modern-day car that

might have a weird thing.

All Tesla models see

Tesla's information.

That's the most Tesla.

Yeah, it really is.

Yeah.

Now, I'm going to be,

this is going to be my website

for the evening.

I'm just going to be going

through that.

Now, perhaps the creamers,

if you are also interested

in this, then go through.

And if you find it

interesting, let us know.

And we'll have a look.

Anything funny?

Let us know.

We will talk about it.

But the Aston Martin one

is quite well.

It's the decline.

Say no.

Don't you tell me to leave?

I just love that you're

not legally allowed to

test a car.

You can't.

If someone rolls in,

not for me,

just someone roll again.

With a dodgy MOT.

It's just Aston Martin's way

of going.

Put no cats in it.

Yeah.

So bring it to us.

Do not take this to anyone else.

Please.

You can't jack it up.

You'll break it.

That's it.

You'll break it.

I mean, well,

the straight through exhaust system

with no cats.

I should be on the list.

Hold on.

Benjamin.

Hi.

You're up here.

Stranger things driving.

Brackets.

E23, 733.

I.

No, thanks.

There is the new series of Stranger Things Out,

which I think is actually pretty decent,

and we'll refuse to watch it.

So he will not be part of this.

There's children in it.

I don't want that.

Okay.

Interesting.

But the new series came out

and Steve.

Hold on.

But you like Star Wars?

There was no kids in Star Wars.

I thought there was.

The whole thing was about it was kid.

No.

Sorry.

Anakin Skywalker isn't a kid.

Briefly.

I don't know.

But what I don't like,

he's like kid centric movies.

Okay.

Because child actors are wack.

I agree.

In the final minutes.

But you saying to me that that isn't a good film?

It's pretty poor actually.

Okay.

Interesting take.

Anyway.

Okay.

Anyway.

Brief.

Brief intermission into Star Wars.

Anyway.

Steve in Stranger Things has an,

is it E23?

Yes.

E23, 733 I.

Which Edwin noted in the earlier season was automatic.

I think from memory it was.

So they're basically,

this is not a spoiler,

they're basically driving this car

and they're in this the other dimension

and they're driving the car

and they're trying to like catch this thing.

And so he's pinning it.

He's absolutely going ham.

As fast as he could.

And they're going,

oh God, we're losing him.

Are we going to catch him?

And he does the classic thing

which is he just downshifts.

Despite the fact he's pinning it.

So you would just rev more, but fine.

But there are so many moments

where whenever he accelerates,

it's just an external shot

where there's just mad wheel spin noises.

The idea,

that car is like 200 horsepower.

The idea that you're going to

to get wheel spin in like third gear

in a 200 horsepower BMW 7 series is crazy.

Turns out he's running

a big single turbo B58.

Connected to a ZF8.

Which whenever he downshifts,

it gets like 200 more horsepower

and he starts wheel spinning.

To be fair,

if he was to like downshift

and do a big old valves slammer 9000,

he would get some tire noise,

but not in the way he might want.

No, it would just be them locking up.

It was like a proper like

and you then watch the car just take off.

But the other thing I was going to say

is that car noises,

it's an actual,

I noticed even I noted

to my girlfriend watching it.

I said, I was like,

that is BMW 6.

It's pretty good.

It's intake noise.

It's actually accurate.

So it does sound good.

Small one there.

But also I owned one of these cars.

Did you?

We're technically one of my first people.

I had a 735i.

And tell me about 60.

If you sort of downshift,

does it go?

I never drove it.

It was so rotten.

You could see through both sills

the other side.

Interesting.

I actually attempted to drive

after you recommended it.

Yeah, you said this.

We saw a movie car.

I stopped it after 45 minutes.

But why?

It's so good.

Whoever wrote the script

for that movie,

the laziest bastard in life.

Here's a script.

So there are eight words

in this movie.

I think Austin's character's name is

the driver.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

He has no name.

Just like layer cake.

But is it?

Yeah, no one knows his name.

He's just called X.

Mr. X.

Yeah, Mr. X.

What?

It's the bugger.

Mr. Bugger.

No, I will give it another go.

Why didn't you like it?

It's not boring.

No, Ben, as someone who likes cars

and who can be captivated by cars.

No, but yours is

because he's not going.

Oh, actually,

4.4 cylinder engine not a 4.4 cylinder.

I don't know.

I'm pretty okay.

I can I can stay.

I can stay in a movie

if it's got cars and stuff in it.

The first hour is a bit tough.

No, it gets better after that.

The intro,

that first driving sequence is good.

Driving around in LA is quite

clocks.

It's quite a good.

Intense smouldering

and sort of pouting, pouting, pouting.

Do you like it?

Sorry.

I'm going to give it another chance.

I promise.

Maybe.

But the thing that annoyed me is

he starts driving a NASCAR out.

I can't remember why.

I was bored at this stage

and it's got a V10 in it.

Like a Viper V10 type noise.

And that really bit really pissed me off.

Now, here's a little bit of

automotive.

Can't say the word.

I'm fairly sure they're the same

Viper noises as Fast and Furious.

Take your drift.

Well, that's because at least

that is a Viper.

Exactly.

But I think they use the noises

from that.

But how do you know if a NASCAR

doesn't have a V10?

Because I know.

Because they don't.

They don't quite famously V8.

Yeah.

But what if this one is converted?

He does send the film

that he can drive most cars.

True.

He's the driver after all.

Yeah.

Watch the film and stop

complaining, please.

Hey, hey, hey.

Rich from you.

Yeah.

No Fast and Furious yet.

Yeah.

But that's different.

That's like a thing now.

Hey, we may or may not

own a car.

Probably not.

From Fast and Furious

and you haven't watched it.

Sure.

And do I feel anything

towards it?

Not usually.

Well, if you watch it,

would you like,

we now have a long stream

of Ben News,

which will be quite fun

because how much of this

has been prepared?

We don't know.

Have it all.

All right.

Run it.

Run on.

Go.

LFA Successor.

Now, I wrote this in here.

I wrote this four days.

I don't have a lot of

politicians.

At the time,

it was just a name reveal,

but they have now announced

that it is being announced

at 2 a.m. tonight.

So you will know

about it.

This could be wrong.

So how about this?

Seeing as everyone else knows,

let's make a prediction

and see if any of us are right.

500 million

pounds.

Sorry.

Hybridized V8.

It's going to have

690 horsepower.

Do you know this?

No, no.

This is always a guess.

And it's going to be

all a drive.

It's going to

and it's going to

have a

interesting interior

that is controversial.

I don't like that prediction at all.

That's just vague.

Here we go.

What day is it?

It will have a V8

because we know that.

And it will have a V8

that revs to 9,650 rpm.

And what power?

At, let's call it,

592 brake horsepower.

No, no.

641 brake horsepower.

OK.

From a 3.9-litre V8.

Oh, OK.

With a

not plug-in,

just a sort of normal hybrid type system,

rear-wheel drive,

but the motors will do the front wheels.

I think it's a 4.5-litre V8.

Do you know that?

I have no idea.

OK.

I believe that it is a 3.5-litre V8,

but they didn't want to develop it,

so they went to Rover

and bought the Rover 3.5

and they have installed it

into their new successor to the LFA.

OK.

It will still overheat,

just like the old,

all of them did,

but they watched our video

and so they've cranked up to 415 horsepower

with a single

pulse-it HX-35

hanging off the front of the engine

just with some aftermarket manifolds.

And it's road-tuned.

It's road-tuned.

It hasn't got...

Stand-alone.

Just a stand-alone ECU.

It's got Sean.

Sean's dialed them up

and gone,

lads, I reckon we can get 400 odds.

Let's stick a 14 PSI spring in it

and off they go.

And I think they're going to release it to the world

and go,

There you go, mate.

That's our prediction,

but 2M's night,

you all know and we will also know,

but we won't be able to talk about it

on this podcast,

but the name has been revealed.

And it's not a Lexus.

No, it's a Toyota.

It's a Toyota,

but there is,

I don't know if this is necessarily

exactly now they're going to announce it,

but apparently there are,

I think three variants.

There is...

Or I didn't know that.

Or at least there is at least two,

there will be a Toyota

and a Lexus version of it.

Kind of as if a Z4

and a Supra.

Oh, I didn't know that.

What's the name?

The name is Toyota GRGT.

I don't know that name.

And what's the Lexus name?

It hasn't been announced,

but I'd assume GRGT.

What's the...

Oh, are we guessing?

Yeah.

It's the...

It's the LF GT.

And you are?

L.

That's what I was going to say.

I think it's the Lexus L.

Okay.

LFB.

I don't know if that second part

is 100% accurate.

I just know that what I've read

is that it is...

The rumors that it will be...

A Lexus one will come later.

So they released a teaser for it,

which had the 2000 GT Toyota

and then the Lexus FFA.

So the bloodline

is Toyota and Lexus.

Hence why I assume that kind of makes sense.

So you will know in the comments

which one of us was right.

And you know what?

You of course know I was right

in the promo.

They had the start-up noise of a

clattery old three and a half

for Rover V8.

Go...

And now they also...

They released...

They released some

classic shadowy images.

You can sort of see the car,

sort of can't.

And from what I can see,

so far it looks quite good.

You know what?

Japan's the best at doing that.

Japan's the best at teasing

because I think they know it

from Gran Turismo.

Their teaser shots

are always Gran Turismo spec

where it's like a really dark room

where you can just make out the silhouette

and there's a light in the corner.

What do you like?

What is it?

That's what it's from.

It's a great Gran Turismo.

I'm sort of looking forward to hearing it,

but I will be honest,

I don't care that much.

Because it's a V8

and it's not a V10,

it doesn't...

They don't have to really tickle my nuts

to do something...

To tickle my nuts.

Keep an open mind on this one.

I will.

Also...

That was just keeping it open.

I just want to quickly make a note

that I've just realised off-screen

it is very cold in this unit

and Ben has set up a radiator

next to him and not us.

Yeah, that's actually...

What do you want the radiator?

I'm just thinking...

I think it should be quite interesting.

Anyway, I'll take a photo from my angle.

No, I'm going to take a photo from my angle

because it's just...

It's kind of ridiculous.

From the angle we're at,

we probably could have heated all of us.

Yeah.

Shall I move that to you?

Or we could have shared the coldness.

But it's fine.

I've been cold all day.

No, it's fine

because you've got more news to talk about.

Go on, next one.

Ferrari.

The V6 is superior to the V12.

Yes, edited.

So...

It's the opposite originally.

No, so I read a thing about Ferrari saying that the V6 is superior to the V12.

So I'll pull the article up.

Oh, I've prepared.

There it is.

No, I can roughly tell you.

Oh, I'll roughly tell you.

Roughly tell us.

Essentially, obviously, when the F80,

the current new flagship,

highest-end Ferrari,

was announced next hypercar,

people were upset that it is now a V6.

Correct.

Saying things like,

there are lower-level Ferraris that are V12s.

They have a V12 they still make.

Why would you not put that in there?

And they have said, basically,

in a, frankly, kind of car-manufacturing,

a little bit up-yourself way of, like,

no, no, it's technically more superior.

Sort of missing the point that people buy the cars.

A lot of people will buy the cars if they're enthusiast

because of the fact that...

You know what that is?

That's coping.

That's cope.

That's...

No, they're actually better.

No one cares that they're better.

That's the thing is that no one...

Right, okay.

Rich people will still buy it.

Rich people will still buy it,

but you're saying that, yeah, fine.

It's smaller.

It's more efficient.

It's better for hybridization.

I understand all that.

But then equally, the soul of your car is gone.

There is no good noise.

There is no...

You have created a car that is

technically superior in a straight line,

but it's the same thing as the Porsche 19.

Every single person,

and granted none of us have driven it

and probably never will,

but in the Holy Trinity,

people always put that one last

out of the three

because they say that it's so good

that it's actually not good

because it's so fast and it's so efficient

and it has no drama to it.

It's clinical.

Yeah.

So I believe it's the same thing.

Yeah.

I think even more so

because at least the 918 has got...

I actually always forget that it's an NA V8.

Yes.

It's incredible that it's got

ridiculously high revving,

very, very cool engine.

It's not obviously a V10 or a V12.

But I mean, the McLaren is a turbo V8.

Yeah.

But it's got more of a

wild feeling about it.

Same thing that I think

I'm going to feel about that Lexus thing

is I feel like it's going to be 918,

where it's too good for its...

It's too smart for its own good.

Yeah.

Whereas the McLaren,

if you hear a P1,

you hear a 765,

you hear a 650,

it still has that Koenigsegg

angriviate like relative.

Yeah.

Whereas the 918 just sounds clinical.

Yeah.

It just sounds,

I'm doing my job.

Which is great.

I'm doing this with such efficiency.

Which is great,

but you lose the reason

that it's so mental.

Exactly.

And now I'll read you exactly

what the fellow person said.

So this is from...

Can you do the accent?

From Matteo Tocconi,

senior product marketing manager.

Okay.

He said,

we asked ourselves,

should the new supercar feature

the most iconic engine

in Ferrari's history,

or take the best of racing

for sheer performance?

The question ultimately had

a simple answer,

even if it didn't seem like it.

We chose the second option.

We took the best of racing,

which today means a turbocharged

V6 combined with a hybrid system.

Then he said,

the V6 is superior to the V12.

The three-lit unit

deriving from the 400,

sorry,

499P race car.

I don't know what that is.

It's the big Blaster Le Mans car.

It makes 300 horsepower meter.

Blah, blah, blah.

Which is great,

but it kind of takes away from...

It's like the F1,

modern-day F1 cars.

When we saw that engine,

that tiny was it?

Tiny was it?

1.6, 1.5.

1.6-litre.

And it is a V6,

but it's not,

and it is,

it makes more power.

Even the older V6s

from the 80s,

whenever it was,

they made ridiculous power,

but everyone remembers the V10

and V8 and a V12.

It's cars are an emotional thing,

so they must be emotional.

You can't take,

you can make it faster,

but it won't be...

Also, I stand this,

I haven't driven very many fast cars,

but I guarantee if you put someone

in a LaFerrari versus a F80,

they will prefer the LaFerrari simply.

Even if it's slower,

it will feel quicker

because of the fact that it is.

But that is every single person

listening to this who has modified a car.

You will know that more often than not,

your modification makes the car worse,

objectively worse.

But to you,

the person doing it,

it's the best thing in the world.

You're 17,

you cut the backbox off a car,

and you put a dumb intake on it

that sucks in hot air.

You're going slower,

but to you, you're like...

Sounds great.

I am the king of the world.

And that's all that matters.

Even earlier on,

I moved this fiesta in here.

I haven't really heard the exhaust that much

since it's been put on,

and I immediately was in there

like, this is cool.

I own one of these,

and I was never excited about

reversing it into a car parking space.

But with that exhaust,

it's fun.

It makes it silly.

I can only assume,

though,

that all of these super car manufacturers

that they have done the market research

and buyers care more about numbers

on a page than they do

about how it feels.

But sadly,

they want to be able to say that it's quick.

They're never going to do it.

No one's driving a 296.

They're trundling around Monaco or London.

But do it for the kids.

Think about when these young kids

see an F80 fly past London,

you need to create the next generation

of rich guys that are going to

buy your car.

They're saying that they've picked the V6

because it's the best in racing.

They're saying...

And if it's the best possible thing to do.

But the thing is,

it's limited by regulation and rule.

The same is why the F1 cars have

the engine they have is because of efficiency

and whatever else.

Where it's not the absolute...

If you unrestricted everything,

is that the best you go for?

Like Can-Am racing in the E6.

I think it's 70s and 80s

where they basically said,

as long as you have a car

that arrives,

you may go.

There was very few limitations.

They didn't go,

you know what, mate?

Let's do the V6.

They went right.

V8.

Go on then.

It's like Group B rally.

Yeah.

Even though Group B rally,

it wasn't really that successful

and it ended up dying

after not that long.

But everyone recognizes it

and remembers Group B rally cars

because they said,

sod it.

Let's have a 500 horsepower,

600 horsepower fire breathing rally car.

Yeah.

You don't remember

whatever the most recent rally cars are,

which are probably better.

Oh, way better.

Probably more efficient.

Went one in Goodwood.

But I'd rather sit on the...

Not to sound ungrateful.

Yeah.

I'd rather sit on the sidelines

and watch a Quattro go past

than be in the US rally car.

Yeah.

There's something visceral.

What Ferrari said there,

what you've just said there,

that might be the final nail

in the coffin

for modern Ferrari for me.

Because also,

they are Disney for cars now.

I think, though,

that's also behind the eyes.

That's quite a

bold thing to say

because you are denying,

if you deny that there's any

want for the V12,

you kind of brush past it.

You just go,

now V6 is better.

But to put a statement out saying,

lots of people think

we should have the V12.

So you know,

you know that people think

it should have the V12,

but you're going,

now we think V6 is better.

But if it is technically superior,

that's fine.

But the thing about,

you're selling to people,

people who are very rich,

who I'm assuming most of them

are older because they're very rich,

they all grew up with

F40s and stuff

and that sort of thing

as a bedroom poster.

So they're into cars because of that.

But you think that people now,

they're not going to look

at F80 and go,

that's sort of pinnacle of cars.

But they must do because they're selling.

There must be some market research that says

they just want the numbers,

they want to be the fastest

over the thing that feels something.

Well, do you know what it is?

It's the Ferrari you grew up with.

Exactly.

It's the V6 over the V12 that you grew up with.

Exactly.

What we got next.

Another piece of news, actually,

I was reading about this yesterday.

Jagged designer,

fired.

Yes.

McGovern.

Now, so he is the man that was

in charge of the big redesign

of the one that everyone was upset about.

Yes, he was in charge of that,

but he's also been there

for quite a long time.

So he's done the last two,

I think I want to say about 20 years.

Oh, wow.

So he's done like the last two generations,

three generations of Range Rover,

the Evoke.

So like,

basically it's quite well known,

at least in Jagged,

in the industry itself,

that he's incredibly good at what he does.

Yeah, everything he designs

tends to come out quite well

and be incredibly popular.

He was the man who did

the stupid number plate thing

on the disco, disco five.

Okay.

So obviously there are some

there are some L's on the CD.

But you can,

you can see though from,

if you just look at those cars

for the last 20 years,

there's a good amount of risks

that have been taken.

If you,

you could have gone from L322

to quite a,

a similar,

another facelift of it,

but the L405 is a good departure.

Yeah.

From Range Rover Classic

to P38 to L32,

they have a similar

they kind of flow

towards each other.

SUV shape,

whereas the L405

and the most suitable for night, whatever it is.

L460.

That's what it is.

Nice.

Now they all look quite different.

They're not as a bit more smooth.

And I remember when the 405 came out,

I remember thinking,

it's not really Range Rover.

Yeah.

That's kind of one of the best looking ones.

Yeah.

And L322 is still

the ultimate Range Rover for me.

I believe that.

But a 405,

I rarely don't look at it with want.

Yeah.

I will look at one and go,

oh man, that's so cool.

That's just nice.

He is the man

who's been in charge of all that

and a load of,

a load of bits of Jaguar as well.

I think also

that era of Jaguar.

So that's like XFR,

the XC,

that that era of Jaguar,

I think are some of the best looking Jags.

I believe that era of Jag,

the XFR,

the XJR,

and then it going into the F type

saved Jag in my mind.

In my mind before that,

even with the big ones,

S type and that sort of stuff.

You were heading towards

KIA territory for me.

And I'm talking about like in the 2000s.

Yeah.

Just middling,

like,

you could easily end up becoming like Rover.

Yeah.

Just boring.

You're not that stepper boss.

People listen to Rover,

people listen.

I'm a sack.

You haven't seen the 45ti

turbo super cat.

They never got to make

because everyone went on strike.

But basically,

he's been,

I don't,

I want to say sacked,

but it wasn't a particularly

pleasant departure.

I don't believe it.

Right.

Apparently he was sort of escorted

into the building.

Wow.

And I also did read that

he was a bit of a divisive figure.

You either kind of really liked him

or really didn't like him.

Which I could imagine is also,

we're not helpful,

but you're going to get that

with someone who's making designs

like that.

Yeah.

But it's interesting

because obviously he was in charge

of the whole entire,

the quite controversial thing

that's happened recently.

I also read,

I didn't know this.

It was semi-recent.

They Jaguar or Jaguar Land Rover

sacked the advertising agency

that were in charge of that entire

campaign.

So it's...

Yeah.

We're going scorched earth on it.

It feels like turmoil.

And they're going to go,

and we've brought out the new E-Type.

We used to bring everyone back to basics.

They're going to get,

we have half,

we have drafted in Tom Lentful,

ladies and gentlemen.

And he's going to come out with

an XJ with an E-Type engine in it.

It's going to have a manual in it.

It's going to be lovely.

But it's going to be,

there may well be,

by the time this podcast goes out,

more developments on what's happened

there.

But at the moment,

it feels a bit like,

it is what it is.

Everyone's sort of looking at each

other going,

what else do we do?

We sold cars because we don't sell any,

but it's like, okay, but now,

now you have to do something.

There's something needs to happen.

They were driving that new Jag

around London recently.

Oh, interesting.

There was a concept car,

but in red this time,

sort of driving around.

I'm still not...

We still,

we know someone that has said

they've seen a much further on

prototype,

and apparently it's a lot better.

Yeah.

So I'm,

I don't like it,

especially because it's EV,

and I know everyone gets all,

but it's more that it just

doesn't do anything for me,

but I'm still open enough

to see what the next,

the...

I think we've had Prime Jag.

I kind of agree.

I think obviously the Ferrari L...

Sort of 60s, 70s,

E-type stuff.

Yeah.

See what people are going to remember,

but the 2000,

well, 2010s,

maybe it might be Peak Jaguar.

I agree.

And also there's a random thing

from memory from on that bombshell,

Richard Porter's audiobook,

when they said they were looking

to do the Sweeney movie,

when they did the Hold Down the Len,

they were originally wanting to do

Range Rovers.

Yeah.

And they said,

no, they can't do that

because we can't make them dynamic

what is the natural car

that a baddie would drive?

I think they're losing that.

Yeah.

I don't think that that's that new

thing.

I wouldn't see that as a baddies car.

It's sort of British Dodge Charger.

Yeah.

Baddie car.

You need to be in an XJ or something.

It needs to be bullet feeling.

If you're not rolling around

in snatch or layer cake.

Exactly.

It doesn't work.

You put that little concept thing

in there.

I'm going to go,

he's probably not going to shoot me.

He's a tech billionaire.

Exactly.

Ben's next piece of news

that I'm hoping you've prepared for.

Oh, I thought I clocked off.

EU officially cancels 2035 Ice Band.

Now I saw this.

Goodbye, mate.

I have a look.

No, I do.

I do not.

I don't want to get this wrong

because it's a big one.

It's a big one.

Europe has officially performed

the most spectacular U-turn since

Ben on.

We can't talk about that.

Yeah.

Two in a few weeks.

Okay.

More of an O-turn.

More of an O.

More of a...

We're not talking about this right now, are we?

We're going to talk about...

We'll save for the Christmas.

We might not.

We're going to see.

There will be a Christmas special

because, sorry, just off topic.

We have realized that there was

the release dates for cream on a Thursday.

It's Christmas Day and New Year's Day.

So we've got...

Not on the same day.

They're not the same time.

Well, I was going to wish

everyone a happy New Year on Christmas.

So everyone put dinner to one side

and sit down for a good old creamy

on Christmas Day.

A Christmas creaming.

Or so you...

You commuting creamers.

I don't care if you're not working that day.

You better find a way of listening.

No, no.

There are thousands and thousands of people

right now who will be driving around the country.

Well, not right now,

but on Christmas,

we'll be driving around the country

on the way to see family and love.

Of course.

Some of you might be working.

And you know what?

We'll accept it.

If you won't go on the 27th

and listen to it because I know

that is the biggest driving day of the year.

Is it?

Apparently, yeah.

That's why you always get stuck in traffic.

Biggest driving day of the year.

I've heard that.

Could be wrong.

It's from me after all.

But even if you're busy on Christmas,

you know when people might play music

in the background,

put cream on.

Everyone sits there

and she goes,

what the hell are you talking about?

What's throwing it back?

What is throwing it back?

Meanwhile, Ben's grandma

on the way down

with SD 1000,

just dab of oppo.

With a doctor in the review.

Yeah.

Okay.

Let's hear about this new ice span.

So essentially they've said

as long as the car can run on biofuel.

So what?

Sorry, just a quick one.

So what had they said?

Apologies.

There is a ban in the EU,

which doesn't apply to us

because we're not there anymore.

As far as we know,

we still have our weird one.

But in the EU,

they were saying from 2035,

no more boys.

Can't make them anymore.

You can make a hybrid,

perhaps,

but no more internal combustion engines on their own.

You can't have that

because you're killing the planet.

So they've now said,

nah, you know what?

Avon boys.

Basically,

they're saying if it can run on biofuel

or synthetic fuel

and specific types of that,

then they can still make them.

Now is what I'd like to know is

is E85 considered biofuel?

I think it is.

I don't know.

Can you run it on beer

if that's the case?

It's a different type.

It's ethanol, more so pure alcohol.

Isn't that alcohol?

Yeah, but it's a different part of beer.

If we can get some E85 going,

and I've been saying this for years,

man, you make so much more power.

It's so good.

So they've apparently gone back on it

whether that will change again,

probably.

But for now,

it's looking good boys.

What was it here?

It was 2030, wasn't it?

It was 2040, I think.

Wasn't it initially 2030?

No, I thought it was 2040

and then they bought it down to 2030.

In this country?

It was next year.

It was next week.

It's next week here.

But that's four years from now.

Total stations up close.

But that means it was announced

still quite a while.

Maybe 10 years ago now,

which felt at the time like,

okay, we've got years.

But now it's four.

We're four years away.

Yeah.

2030.

Just four years away.

It's just throwing.

2030.

How are you going to get that?

That's nice.

Do you know what it's going to be?

It's never going to work.

We're going to get there

and they're going to go

we'll do it next year.

And then just get the next one.

They go, it's to the sort of

governing powers that be.

It's the Zephira.

We will get to it.

Guys, I promise.

We're going to ban it.

We've got big plans for the ban.

We put some parts on it.

Now they're rusting.

No, you can't buy the ban.

Because we're going to do the ban.

We will be doing the ban.

But we'll do it next year maybe

or maybe next year.

We've got the wheels.

They're definitely here.

What gets banned first petrol or Zephira?

We've finally finished Zephira.

And we can't put any fuel in it.

And it's anybody's race, folks.

For people who do not know this

is not a full ban on cars.

It's just a brand new ones

would have to be hybridised

or electric or...

But now they're saying synthetic fuels.

Where did I see it?

This was something on Instagram.

I don't know who this was.

Someone will know.

Someone will know something about something.

He was talking about the fact

that banning petrol for other people

I actually don't mind.

And I kind of agreed with it

because you basically said

they don't deserve it.

You know what?

I can hear that.

Why are these people...

These waste men.

These waste cadets.

Wasting our fuel.

We enjoy it.

Every milliliter of fuel I use

is precious to me.

Do you know what?

I like the noise it makes.

Whereas other people are going,

oh, this is a bit expensive, isn't it?

You know what?

That actually...

So I...

This is kind of an off topic.

But as you know,

I can't have caffeine.

So I have decaf coffee.

Yeah.

If they said,

look, you're consuming...

People like coffee.

Yeah.

But you're consuming stuff

that they can't.

You have to give it up.

I would give it up

for other people to have it.

That's right.

I don't need it that much.

It's just I kind of like it.

The taste.

Yeah.

But I don't need that.

Same with fuel.

Well, I love the taste, mate.

Everyone drinking fuel.

Some 99.

It goes down a treat.

A legit would.

I would give up

if there were certain groups of people

that were like, man,

this is like my life blood.

This is all I like doing in life.

I'd be like, yeah, sure.

Okay.

Let's go on this road.

So you get a certification for fuel.

Your fuel license.

Call it that.

Okay.

How do you obtain such a thing?

Very English.

What is the certification process?

What do you have to do?

Do you have to do a burnout?

You have to do a doughnut.

You have to do a hundred mile hour.

A controlled skid.

You must have six points on your license.

A controlled skid.

I don't think you would have

to have a certification.

Laptime.

You just have to own a lap time.

A lap time.

But then you can have

like a one liter.

No, no.

But if everyone else gets like,

like if it actually makes sense

for everyone else to go,

I want a Tesla McBingle.

And that's better for my life.

Cool, man.

You do that.

Enjoy the battery thing in like 20 years.

It's all good.

But we don't waste our fuel in your RAV4.

That is sort of how it currently works.

You can choose to buy that.

No, no, but people are still

rocking around in petrol.

What I'm saying,

ban them from having petrol

and then only the enthusiast

can have petrol.

Maybe it's the driving test.

Then there must be a way

of determining.

They do a petrol license.

They go,

you're turning in a road

and a Lamborghini Murcielago comes past.

Do you let it out

or do you continue with your day?

If you say continue with the day,

no petrol license.

Do you look at it

and fail the test?

Exactly.

Which nearly happened to me.

I think it's one Instagram post

of your car minimum.

Okay, okay, okay.

It's not one first date.

Sort of ruling out old people, though.

Okay, well, we'll get to that.

My nan with a photo of her.

I go on Instagram.

It's one first date ruined

by talking about cars.

Okay.

You know, they go,

yeah, this again.

It's a family dinner

where people just say,

identifying an engine.

It doesn't have to be specific.

Yes.

You're not saying that's a 488 GTB.

I just want you to go as V8.

Yeah.

You must sniff some petrol,

not in like a drugs way,

but like Richard Porter.

Yes.

Mm-hmm.

Oh, I get it.

Sorry.

I was confused.

Yeah.

And you must go.

You must the way he walked past

petrol station and you must even say

if you'd like to smell,

I'm not going to smell.

Yeah, but I know lots of car

people that don't like that smell.

Well, then they can't have license.

I think they're just being

a bit of a, you know,

being a fascist.

Yeah, I'm saying you're a car fascist.

Ben the car fascist.

No, I'm just saying that there needs

to be some end Ben.

I know.

Until you've created your little

Aryan race of car people.

This is disgusting.

I'm just saying that there needs

to be, if we do it going down this

wheels, I don't mind.

I'm just a million times.

I'm just a messenger.

I'm washing my hands of this.

What do we do

to give the certification out

for the petrol?

I think it's quite simple.

OK, go on.

You tick a botch or car

if you like a car at all.

But then that means that if,

OK, anyone buying like a cheap car

or a used car is going to

have an idea.

I have an idea.

Top Gear quotes.

If you are in until cars,

you have watched Top Gear

and you are into Top Gear.

That is probably the broadest

stroke that you can run.

You just say to them,

is this on after the wall to shed?

Yes.

And then if they just look at

you blankly that you go right.

You show them.

Get in the Tesla.

Some fine china.

And if they say,

it's all lovely this,

you're in and you carry on.

Get out of my bloody shed,

man.

Exactly.

That's it.

Ben's got it wrong.

Ben's walking home.

Enjoy.

A fully rigged ocean going.

Ocean going.

Rate A1.

That's it.

Enjoy the drive home in your

clank of a bill Tesla.

There's actual auto races

going on today.

Incredible.

Creating a divide.

But I like that idea.

Any of you who don't

appreciate the petrol.

Ben.

Piss off.

You should run on a

on a political.

I wouldn't follow you.

I wouldn't expect you to.

No.

Is that what politicians

do?

Right.

If I'm honest,

I'd use your vote elsewhere.

Honestly,

there's better votes out there.

I think I could.

No, I couldn't.

I'd start delivering like

my new policy that would

change halfway through.

As you know,

what I would say,

you go off and they go,

so what's your policy?

They say, go, hold on.

Let me just look up.

I've got it.

I've got all my points

laid out right here.

And they go,

what are you going to do

about petrol cars?

And you go, hold on.

I'm sorry.

I have got it.

I just didn't want to

lie to you.

No, but I just got to read it.

Well, I put the link in there.

I'm not going to,

I'm not going to revise

for the podcast.

I put the link in

and I read the link out loud.

Put your politics clear.

Do you think newsreaders,

actual newsreaders are like,

they're not teleprompter?

Yeah, they're learning.

They're revising.

What, do you want a

prompter here?

A prompter here.

It comes up on there

and I just go,

hello.

Next up,

we've got Spotify Wrapped,

which actually,

we're going to make

an admission here.

Yes.

We had a,

there's a little thing

of a personalised video to you,

to your followers.

And we said yes.

We said yes.

We can't do it right yet.

Do you know that we ran out of time?

The reason we ran out of time

is because

I'm going to show you a secret.

It's only for the viewers.

I'm going to get out of breath.

I know.

I am wearing

some prototype merch for cream.

And we wanted to

wait until the prototype

said arrived

so we could show it to you,

for you secret creamers

behind the scenes.

But it didn't arrive in time.

But we've tried some on.

I'm going to very impress.

It is really good.

There are changes to make

because we want it to be nice.

Yeah.

So you will see it in the

I've always come for you.

It's really nice.

Yeah.

No, Ben doesn't know.

I wasn't here for that.

Obviously.

It's like guests and merch.

I'll be for merch.

We'll talk about it.

So we will have some merch

coming in the new year.

But shout out to all you

all you people that were

sending screenshots

for for cream

viewings and things.

So crazy amounts of time.

Yeah.

Also unbelievable.

Also calculating it.

Lots of you listening to it twice.

What are you doing?

Yeah.

Some people said they've

listened to it like the

entire batch of podcasts

up until now.

Two or three times over.

And do you know what?

I will.

So I was thinking about that

the other night.

I wasn't.

I thought that was weird.

And then I went and started

listening to all the Carl

Pinkington.

What do you call it?

XFM.

Podcast again.

It's probably like, yeah,

five or six times.

I've listened to it.

So I do get it.

The thing that I will say

is that I got tagged in

something which was

someone saying my biggest

listening day or podcast.

It was it was this podcast

and it was many of them.

It's like a long driving

day or something.

Surely you arrive

your destination with your

mind just soup.

I mean, like listening to us.

What we how we speak

and what we talk about

for hours on end,

you must arrive there.

Like what not to be able

to speak English.

And now imagine what we're

like, we have to listen to

each of us all day.

Crazy.

That's every day.

I drive home.

I relearn English on the way

home.

Bro, it's got dueling

going on the way.

Hello.

Apple.

Also,

at the same time,

YouTube have also put

their thing out about

a sort of yearly really cap.

It's not quite as nice

Spotify as one.

To be honest,

it's not as polished.

But nonetheless,

we've had many, many screenshots

from people.

And Ben,

you've sent one in here

from ShadowMacker.

Yes.

I've got DM.

Ebon, can you please

pull it up?

I sent it a minute ago.

Oh, now.

Yeah.

I did see this.

So this is very funny.

So you know,

we'll pull up on the screen

for viewers.

Probably not going to be

able to see it on the screen,

but I will.

I will read it out for you.

We have here

the YouTube screenshot.

And it says

firstly, his cat.

Well, what I'll do

firstly, the YouTube.

It says you are focused

on personal finance.

You are making money

and making smart choices.

And the channels you watch

in relation to that were

2DeadCenter,

TopLeadCenter

and the cream podcast.

And his captain at the top

says, brother,

I don't think that means

what you think it means.

Yeah, we are

probably not personal

finance advisors.

No, we are definitely not.

The opposite in fact.

But very nice.

You are managing

money.

We can,

yeah, we can teach you

how to do that.

Yeah, managing to spend it

or not,

but they're making smart

choices.

I'm not too sure about that.

I've seen some obscene

minutes on there.

Genuine thank you to everyone

because it's pretty cool

to have people messaging us

being as big as that

much time listening to

our stupid dross

that we chat each week.

And we are aiming for cream

to be bigger and better

next year.

It will be a very good year.

We've got all sorts of stuff

planned.

There's all sorts coming.

Many and much.

And also lots of things.

Yeah, we will all be coming

next year.

We will.

Go on people.

That's why I want to stop

listening to the podcast.

That'll do.

Not listening next year.

The next

before we get on to the forum,

which we will end on,

shot in front of my face.

I've been staring at

for the last hour or so.

And I've got the same.

So we have talked at length

about funny Facebook ads.

Now, Ben, you don't actually

know what this is.

No, I have no idea.

You're not going to laugh.

And that's it.

I don't know if you guys

are going mental.

Your goal is not to laugh.

Easy.

We've talked at length

Facebook ads where people have

uploaded the wrong photo.

And it's funny.

It always is.

We've had a lot from you,

from the creamers.

They're always good.

Now, something that Will

and I quite like is often

when you see a reflection

in a car photo ad.

So Ben, I employ you not to

laugh. Will and I saw a car

sale.

I'm not going to say what it

is.

So you can't find it.

But this, this was in the

reflection.

Ben, you're not going to

laugh.

Mike was asking his legs.

There.

Very long.

Trousers.

Anything.

What you can see is it's in a

bumper.

There is a that he's taken a

photo of a scratch on a bumper.

But the reflection you can

see

from ankles.

No socks.

There's no socks at all.

Those legs go all the way up.

Now they go up past the knees

well up to the thighs.

We're talking short shots

here.

And then there is a crease

on the bumper which makes

your legs look even longer.

He is.

If a daddy long legs was a

human.

This was it.

But the worst thing is the

shoes.

At first glance I thought they

were those webbed shoes that

you wear without, you know,

the ones with the toe shoes.

Toe shoes.

That's the one.

But that is, it's one of my

favorite things on earth.

I know for audio listeners

you might be a bit confused,

but it is.

It's funny every single

time because it's a taking

a photo in a car is like

taking a photo in one of

those houses and mirrors.

Yeah.

Where everything's just a

little bit bent and warped

out the way.

This is, I think it's like,

you know, there's the whole

meme about selling a mirror.

Exactly.

I think this is funnier

because it's not, it's,

you can't avoid it.

Well, also the dealer option

that we use, they,

they require you to take

four different photos of the

tires and they require them

to be close up.

So it's whenever someone goes

up to get, because you're

taking a photo from 10

meters away, you're not

going to get the reflection.

But it's right when someone

is getting that scratch photo

or they're getting

something close up.

You can just see an old guy

like this with his phone

extended out and then just

like a squinting face.

Joe, I sympathize with this

because filming so many cars

that we do, it's actually

quite hard to get out of the

reflections.

A lot of times I'm editing it,

I'm like, there's just me

doing a crazy squat in the

reflection panel.

You're just in the reflection

of a full green morph suit.

Just completely naked.

So we'll see how well this

goes down with the audio

listeners, but let us know

if you find any funny

people in reflections.

Perhaps maybe on a sort of,

on a special of some sort

you might do a little

presentation of all the best

ones.

But also a million cream

points will go to anyone

who can figure out what car

that is.

Because actually from that

angle, you've got one crease

and a pair of legs to go

from.

And if that's your legs,

do not spoil it.

The forum comes back to

James from earlier with

the paint question.

And he said, also I have

a related forum question.

If I may, how much should

you care about paint

slash color when buying a

car?

I imagine I'm in the

minority of you can always

because of my job and

background.

However, in the case of

Edmunds and three and how

Range Rover sometimes it

matters more to other

people.

It's a good question because

for me, I'm probably far too

far the other side.

It is the most important

thing for me.

I don't like as in like a

choice of color or just

the exact color.

I will.

There are some cars that I

want in one color.

And if it's not that color,

I do not want the car.

Yeah, there is.

I probably have a broader

range on most models where I

could, I would accept a

certain color.

But on some things like the

Glada, for example, there

was, it was yellow or

nothing.

Exactly.

And there was some,

there was a blank car,

could I get away with that?

No, the thing I have in mind

is yellow.

Yeah, exactly.

Why would I choose anything

else?

But like, yeah, I don't

like respray stuff.

As in like a completely

different color.

I don't know what it is.

It makes no sense.

The color might be

better.

Exactly.

It's not like a factory

color.

Even if it is a factory

color, you know,

this happens a lot in

BMWs.

There's a lot of E92

and 3s I've seen for sale

and they'll be Laguna

San Marino.

But it's a BMW color,

but it's not,

it's not right on that car.

It's, yeah.

For me, and I think the

reason I don't like that as

much, the rarity is a thing

for me.

I love, I love rare things.

I love things that aren't,

even if they're worse,

I like them more because

they're rare.

Like if there was one,

if there was 10, a

Phoenix yellow, which is

that horrible baby sick yellow

on the early M3s,

I'd probably like him

because they're so rare

because I'd be like,

oh, you can see them

because they're common.

I don't like it.

May I speak on this?

Please.

I actually think it doesn't

matter unless it's...

So earlier on, for example,

when we were looking at

Daly's, I was looking at a

Golf GTI and you said to me,

what color is it?

And I said, I like a black one

and you said, would you

take a gray one?

And I said, yes,

would you take a white one?

Yes.

Would you take a red one?

Now, I don't want a red one.

However, if a very clean,

nice one came up

for a good price

and it was well-served

and that sort of thing,

I would have a red one.

I don't want the red one,

but equally,

I'm not going to get that

But unless it's like the

Glado or it's like the M3,

you have a vision,

then it has to be that color.

I think that's the thing

for me and maybe Will as well.

Every car,

every car,

I have a vision.

Then in your case,

it should be, I think,

for the average person.

No, no, absolutely.

I think for most people,

it should not be a factor.

The color should be,

if it's something you really

love, go for it.

Get something,

the color that you want.

But otherwise,

don't let color spoil

something.

And don't buy a bad car

because it's in the right

spec.

It's also,

for example, the CL

or the range of the CL

was a really good,

I would probably choose a black

one, but there are other colors,

but I'm not that bothered

that cars black rather than

some special purple or whatever,

because it was a good deal

and I want to try one of those

cars.

Same as the Range Rover,

there are nicer colors

than just black,

but I also quite like it in black.

So for a lot of cars,

there are probably

five to 10 different colors

that I might like,

but it's,

and there will normally be colors

in that,

you know,

model that you do not want.

No.

Yeah.

The C55 is the same.

Blue M3 or something.

I just,

I straight up don't want that color.

Yeah.

A C55, same.

I wanted,

I would look black way better.

Yeah.

A C1, I'm sad,

but silver's okay.

Because some have less options

as well.

So you can't,

you're not being that,

the Range Rover,

you're kind of looking at,

there are obviously

some rare ones out there

that have better colors,

but you're looking at

black, silver,

gray,

white.

Yeah.

So this is the camera is about

to run out of battery.

Almost everything.

So we,

thank you very much for listening

to this rather long cream

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We will see you next week as

always.

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special soon and Secret Santa.

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