C.R.E.A.M. #68 - Brake Pad Tax, Ben's New Daily And Too Many Inches?

pulling out of planes. You might occasionally accidentally cut someone up.

I'd rather be into gardening than cars. I don't know what that is, 12 inch, 13 inch?

Eight or nine inch? Okay, so let's say around 10 inches. That's too big.

Hello and welcome back to the CREAM podcast, the Cars Rule Everything Around Me podcast,

with myself, Will Edwin to my right and Ben behind the camera.

Hello. Now at the beginning of every single podcast, we ask ourselves, do Cars Rule

or ruin our lives this week, Edwin? I think it's going to be a rule.

I still don't have an engine in the Clio. That's something we started today, but I have the new

engine. We put most of it together. It's looking nice. I'm excited to drive it. My friend dropped

off his Clio 200, which we'll get onto in a minute, his 200 for me to please sell for him.

So if you're in the market for a very rare Clio 200 Silverstone edition,

get at me soon. I'll have that. I was driving that around and I love it and I was excited and

I like that. So overall, it's pretty okay for me. I have made a decision though.

It's become too late for the Ranger of a Classic for this year. Wait, what? No.

It will come back in next Christmas if that makes a little winter. It's now past the point

where I wanted it as a winter daily. Now I want it for next winter, but I'm now no longer looking

as actively before it was every day. No, you need to start looking in September.

Exactly. Because you keep doing this, you go to the winter and then you need a daily.

If one comes up at some point in the year, I will look at it and buy it, but I'm no longer

every night on every forum. Are you saying this so people stop sending you blue ones?

Please stop doing it, man. It's so annoying. This always goes for the 99% of creamers.

They get it. They understand it, but there's just this 1% of people that don't listen.

They just don't listen. You ask for a Black Ranger, but I am selling a Micra.

Or I've just found this green one. I've just found this red one. Brother, I don't care.

I don't know if you know, but like a brand new Ranger was like 120 grand.

Someone sent me a P38. What are you doing, man? I appreciate all of you helping,

but the thing I've said before is that if it's on the internet, Will and I have seen it, Ben will

tell you, every moment that the camera isn't rolling, I'm online. You can't out find us.

We'll find something on the internet.

Mirror signal manoeuvre before you send the message, but just think.

Shout out. I appreciate that. Just starting off the podcast with that. I hate everyone.

Follow us on this podcast. Come on, Nerves.

But no, rule for me, Will. I have reasons to ruin, but I'm going to go with a rule.

Because I don't really know why. I know there is a yellow reason why.

Yeah, two yellow reasons why. The glad is back and fixed and actually working after some warranty

work that cost £2,000, but didn't cost me £2,000, but it would have done.

You did some work on the glider, didn't you?

I did. I put a head unit in it. Nice. What else did I do to it?

No, that was it.

Yeah, I put a head unit in it, which is very nice. It's only a simple thing,

but even on that, I was a bit scared. I pulled it out and I was like, if I drop this...

It's like a bomb.

Oh, if I drop this, it's going to chip the bash and then I'm just going to drive it into a wall.

But it all went very smoothly. That's very good.

And then a wee French yellow car arrived today on a trailer that doesn't start.

And I'm very excited about that. So the bet I had with Ben is now sealed.

Is it your name?

It's not yet, actually. The V5 is just in there.

Oh, okay.

But it's here and I've paid the money.

And V5 is not actually legal proof of the owner.

No, it's one to the V5. I'll write the letter.

Okay, so next week we'll get an apology letter.

I'll throw out to give a few at some point.

Little official letter.

Yeah, real one.

I don't want it typed. I need it written.

Fine. I'll even get you a pen.

Okay, if you get me like a proper fountain pen, I'll throw it for you.

Alamy.

I've had a look around that car. It's good.

It's going to need some bits, 100%. I think it needs a cambell and whatever else.

It was quite funny when you got in it to get it off the trailer, click start button, it just went...

And that was it.

It doesn't even attempt to start.

What was worrying was it was like, oh, it will need a starter motor.

And I looked through the paperwork. It has had...

How many would you want?

It has had four starter motors.

So...

It does need a starter motor. That's true.

You know what?

But I also need to investigate why the starter motors keep dying.

You can't take away the fact. It just needs one.

It does need one. But if it keeps needing one, it's not like Ben putting oil in a car.

You can't just do it every week.

It's had a redacted amount of starter motors added to it.

But still, I'm excited. It looks good. I've only seen it in the dark, but it looks right.

It did look nice.

It actually looks really good.

I'm excited. Now, Ben, I hate to say something about I own a Clio,

and Will owns a Clio, and you don't.

I can't, then.

Yeah, it's true.

It's just a time.

But you could break the curse.

I don't want to.

Because then if I break the curse, we don't know what will happen.

No, but do you not think that everything would be so up right now?

If you were to get a Clio?

I can't have a Clio.

Also, we have two broken Clios.

That leaves space for a working one for you.

And that was up. Our luck would be up.

And then they'd all work.

But I'll probably break it myself.

We've said before that back at car throttle,

when it was Will and I and then our manager, Jake,

the rule was all three of us could never have a working car together.

One of them always had to be down.

That's maybe what it'll become.

I would like a 197 or a 200.

Hey, do you want a Silverstone edition?

It's really rare.

But I'm quite expensive.

I can't afford that.

But I would like, I'd like that.

I think I'm done with 182s for now.

Okay.

I think I've done that.

But I'd go a little bit newer.

Ben's a 200T type man.

Yeah, little flappy paddles.

Yeah, a little airbag.

This is nice.

Yeah.

No, five dolls.

Lovely.

Ben, over to you.

What is it for you?

It's a big rule for me, actually.

Oh, why is that me?

My daily is sat directly behind you.

If you're watching, that's the one.

Not listening.

Well, both.

But if you're watching with your eyes on YouTube

or Spotify or wherever you're watching.

They've got just a picture on us muted.

Yeah.

You can see...

Silent movie.

You can see my daily behind.

Oh, is it, Ben?

It's a Golf CTD.

Now we were...

No one knew it was a Golf today.

No one knew that.

We kept that pretty secret.

What a surprise.

And viewers, viewers, viewers will notice

the number plate on the car is different.

It's Benjamin's number plate.

You've privatized it.

I have.

You've...

I have.

Yeah, that's my plate.

Now, how about, would you like to walk us through

what happened after the video?

I can't remember what happened after the video.

Well, no, the debacle that's been going on

for the last week.

With this car.

Oh, yeah.

Okay.

So part of the video was, very kindly,

these guys said that because they bought a car

with absolutely no history whatsoever, they said.

Some?

None.

They had a service at 36,000.

And you went and got...

And you used to went to Volkswagen

and they got you something, maybe.

Did they?

Yeah, they said 36,000 miles.

Yeah, they had one service at 36,000 miles.

Okay, fine.

That's more than enough.

You already said beforehand, because the car didn't have...

If you've seen the video, you'll notice

that because the car didn't have any history,

you guys said, we'll get a DSG service for you

and we'll get the cam belt done.

And that's been done.

You had it done.

And got it done in last week.

It was great.

So I've had...

But a specie list?

Specialist did it.

So it's full DSG service, cam belt, water pump.

They didn't do it.

They didn't have to do anything else.

And then I had this issue.

I came back from the podcast and I just couldn't get warm.

I thought, am I ill or something?

I can't get warm in my car.

The heater doesn't work or didn't work, which was odd.

So I said, I looked at this in research

and there's a couple of things it could be.

You know, it could be perhaps a thermostat.

Just a little thermostat.

Fine.

And it does take a while to get up to temperature.

They're doing a warp pump.

Easy.

So I said, cool.

Sounds good.

Guy called me after he checked out and he said,

yeah, I've diagnosed it.

It's just the worst case scenario.

We're not the worst case, but for the price.

It could be.

Yeah.

But in terms of the common issues that would cause that,

it's the worst one, which is that the heat matrix,

which is done tough, done for.

So I have that done as well.

So that was nice.

Expensive week.

Yeah.

Well, the water pump, the contribution helps bring the bill down,

but it was a big old bill I wasn't expecting.

But you're happy.

Now it's sorted.

We need to put the brakes on still.

We haven't done that.

Yeah.

We need to do the brakes.

We'll do that.

We do that.

I need to do the brakes.

Okay.

We can help.

We will certainly be there.

We can just keep an eye out for you.

Just say, yeah, those are brakes.

You should keep doing that.

And it's still stopping.

Yep.

No more headlight.

Headlight is working.

Well, I want to change the other headlight though,

because they don't quite match colour-wise.

It's annoying me.

And it might have battery.

It's giving some symptoms of needing low voltage.

Or your glide plugs.

So yeah.

Yeah, but it's quite inconsistent.

But that was a...

It does it on a somewhat warm start, right?

Yeah.

Would you think go plugs?

Yeah.

That's what they're called, right?

Yeah, go plugs.

They make you go.

It's completely...

It's completely spark plugs.

Yeah, true.

It does it.

Because I've been doing a lot of driving.

So maybe I would try a new battery.

It's a relatively...

We've experienced it in the past.

Wacker battery and things.

And it'll like bent rods.

Dodgy timing.

I should have done that on my 172.

From the research I've done,

a lot of the symptoms I have for it is battery.

Because it's not that the battery's dead.

It's just getting low.

And it has a thing where I don't know what's called...

You know what it is.

Cold cranking amps.

Yeah.

Basically, it doesn't actually put...

It will turn over, but it won't actually put any fuel in the engine

until it has a certain amount of ampere energy.

It's groggy.

It's a bit tired.

Yeah.

But it doesn't...

Because I've been doing it on the weekend a lot of...

It's got...

Every morning, it goes, sorry, two hours.

You know, we should do two hours to ready.

No, I'm going to bed.

But over the weekend, I was doing a lot of smaller journeys.

So it would do...

I'd be getting out of the car,

going to the shops, coming out.

So I turned it on and off.

I described a small journey.

You know what I'm saying?

And I turned it on and off.

Going to the shop.

I come back out the shop.

I did a lot of...

I did like a longer half an hour drive.

Go out and I did like a 10-minute drive.

And all of that affects it.

It just randomly takes a lot of crank sometimes.

So who knows.

But there is a photo I've just given you to put on the screen.

Sure.

Because this to me is fate.

This is a photo.

That's it.

This is a photo of our Christmas Wednesdays and family.

Yeah.

And there was this lovely golf GTD parked at this place.

And my dad said to me,

he went, that'll be a great two car garage.

So I parked next to it.

And I thought, you know what?

I'll snap a little photo to see how it sits.

You're a Gen Z. What is it called?

They... No, not they.

Manifestation.

Daily affirmation.

I remember thinking I was like,

I'll just get a photo of that

because it looks like a great two car garage.

Lo and behold, that's what I've now got.

There it is.

So I thought that was...

Now, what's the perfect three car garage?

That and...

My SDVs with some oil in it.

I didn't do what?

And an oil tanker.

A track car.

What's the track car?

Is it a clear car?

Probably a clear, actually.

I think you need something big turbo in there.

Oh yeah.

A turbo track car or a turbo like...

Wait, this side?

This is like...

A turbo, please.

Yeah, you make it.

You're going to get your ass bit scary, that.

S2000's your NA.

Like, yeah, I'm really revving through.

I'm really just hitting it to the red line.

No, yeah.

But it's not quite for the track.

When the GTD is your ring car.

Yeah.

Yeah, for the Nürburgring.

Yeah, but...

Yeah, I don't know.

I'm not having another car on it yet.

I'm doing two at a time.

We had a discussion earlier and we said,

what do I say?

I would like to do a Nürburgring trip this year.

Oh, stop this.

And Ben, we said to Ben,

Ben, are you coming with the S2000?

He was like, yeah, I'll come with.

And we said, I bet you don't go around Nürburgring.

And Ben didn't even hesitate.

He went, no, no, probably not.

No, I said.

No, that's not what I said.

So you'll drive it all the way to Germany.

No, that's not what I said.

And just park it up in the car.

I said to you, I admitted,

and I think this was fair.

I said to you, I would drive it there.

I enjoyed the road trip.

And then when we get there, it would depend on the weather.

If it's raining, I would not take on that

because of an instant...

I can kind of understand.

A redacted incident.

I've only done one driving,

one drive on the Nürburgring,

and it was an exception when I first started driving.

And I feel like I've been robbed

because it was like my first.

Your first one is like that.

That buzz of like, it's amazing.

Whereas I don't get as much desire to go back

because I haven't experienced it properly.

Like a proper Nürburgring trip.

So I think that needs to happen this year.

I mean, no, I wouldn't go around.

Cream Nürburgring trip.

Cream Nürburgring.

We get all of the creamers.

Every creamer has to arrive.

The Nürburgring.

Lovely.

New old creamers at Australia.

Oh, God.

I may drive.

But so overall, it's a real...

Overall big rule.

It should be sourd now.

Lovely.

Touch wood.

But it's been working.

Tune in next week when Benjamin has a broken belly.

No, not that...

No.

Ben, the chair.

Oh, a little side note.

I will mention this, Ben.

You may have forgotten it already.

Pro.

You little pea brain.

Ben was checking the oil on his scalp.

Ben, it was a little bit low.

It was a little bit low.

We do think it's because we checked the...

It's got like 4.87 or 4.8 litres.

We checked.

We probably put 4.2 in, so it's fine.

Ben, I have a quote here from you.

I saw you put this in the chat.

What is this?

This is a little while ago.

I opened my notes app and saw it in there.

Now, I think this is from...

This is from the S2000 debacle.

It's a quote from you.

And I'd like you to back this up.

Sure.

Go on.

And then also, I'd like you to justify this.

Perfect.

You said, you know what?

This is all bullshit.

I'd rather be into gardening than cars.

Do you start by that?

Not gardening, but there's other hobbies that are better.

At the time, you said I'd rather be into gardening than cars.

There's just so many...

It's an affliction.

Yeah.

Like, we've actually had this conversation before.

I think there's worse afflictions.

Yeah, like drugs.

Yeah, like that.

But what I mean is that it's...

Heteromatics of your intercourse.

Oh, God.

The issue is that multiple times I've been like,

you know what?

I could have just a boring car.

Like, to be fair, I mean, I think GCD is a little bit one-up

from like a base normal golf, obviously,

in terms of like, interestingness.

Yeah, by default.

Yeah, kind of how it's marketed, I guess.

But it's somewhat interesting, but it's not...

If you had as your only car, you wouldn't...

You're not taking it for a quick blast on the B roads, are you?

So I could...

I feel like I could have that,

but also then I...

Then we come and do this sort of thing,

or I see a loud car.

I'm like, I know what.

Do you think if you didn't work in this arena,

this place that you would not be as...

Because that's normally the thing.

You could get sucked back into normality

and also go back to normal.

But you would...

I've completely wiped my brain thinking of that joke instead.

But because you're not around it,

you don't care about it.

When you come in and you see someone's got a cool car,

or someone's made something look cool,

or it sounds cool, or you go out on a car,

you go, I want a piece of that.

I think you'd be like...

I think you'd be GCD.

You'd be solo GCD.

Yeah, I didn't want the base model thing.

I wanted it something interesting,

but I can't be bothered to go out and buy it like an SD card.

I'd probably still go to places and look at cars, but yeah.

Ownership of stuff.

Starting up Tesco.

Bloody hell.

You see that sort of motorway bridges?

Mark III focus over there.

That's interesting.

No, but what?

Yeah, probably congestion there.

It's...

But yeah, I don't know.

I mean, it's no secret that we have access to cars.

The ability to make our cars nice

and fix them more easily than the average person gets.

Yeah, we're very lucky.

Because we have sponsors and stuff.

And mess them up.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, model clear next door.

So that one was put me off not being able to do that as easily.

But I mean, no, I like what we do.

I'm pretty happy.

You about to fire me.

What's going on?

I feel like...

No, no, I was...

I'm saying, I reckon it is interesting.

It's probably partly because of us

that we bully you into buying the way in cars.

The moment that...

But it's funny that you literally...

You said, you stated so confidently and so loudly,

I'd rather be into gardening than cars.

You chose gardening.

Yeah.

Like gardening, like your hoe breaks.

God save.

I've got to send my hoe to the garage.

That's so easy to make one.

Am I right?

My trowel.

Yeah, my rake.

My trowel has broken.

My rake has broken a prong.

Bloody hell, I got my project rake over this today.

There's never been a time where

something's gone wrong with cars.

And after you guys have put me back in,

I haven't actually gone.

You know what?

I'm glad I didn't give up.

Just when I thought I was out.

Okay, cool.

Well, we will stay very briefly on the GTD

subject, on Ben's daily subject,

because something...

I'm itching to hear about this.

Ed, when you put in here, clown GTD man strikes again.

And you wouldn't tell me about it earlier.

I'm desperate to hear it.

That's how it'll be me.

That was just me saying,

reminding Ben to be on the podcast today.

When we...

Ben, you've now seen the footage,

the white golf GTD that we went to look at.

We're the one with the wet boot.

Did we fully...

I think we might have deliberately not talked too much

about it on the one before.

But basically, the car had all sorts of issues.

It had decent servicing history,

but had the boot was absolutely full of water.

There was rust and stone chips all over it,

needed front brakes.

There was all sorts of other little issues.

And we said to the guy,

look, I understand that you're a dealer.

We weren't trying to be dickheads about anything.

But we said,

I think some money needs to come off here.

And he said, absolutely not.

Like he was quite aggressive with us.

Not a penny.

He was like, no, I don't even lock off five pounds.

And then Flex thought us about the fact he makes 100 grand a year.

Oh, that was him.

That was him.

Wow.

Because I don't need this.

This is a side thing.

I make 100 grand a year in something.

And then Will did hit him with something quite funny,

which was call me if you change your mind.

And Will said, we won't.

And then...

I'm sitting at home a couple of days ago

and I get a call from an unknown number.

I love picking up unknown number calls.

I just like, I don't know why I think I love it.

And so mainly because it means sometimes I can argue with someone,

which is fun.

But anyway, pick up the phone and this guy and he goes,

oh, well, it's someone.

And they go, ah, I'll work for this dealership.

You came in and looked at a golf last week.

Doesn't narrow it down for us.

Looked at about 20.

Did you leave a set of Audi keys in a car?

Has anybody lost some keys?

And I was like, not that I can think of, which car was it?

And he went, the golf that you came to look at.

Again, it immediately annoyed me.

So I said, okay, I looked at quite a few.

So like, which one was it?

And he went, oh, the white one, the one you lobald me on.

And I went, oh, the one with the boot full of water that was rusty.

And he went, yep, that's the one.

Oh no, I don't think that's us.

Anyway, good luck with selling the car.

And he went, yeah, and then was about to say something.

And then he put the phone down.

He went, yeah, and then put the phone down.

So I don't know if that was someone with him who was like that.

Just leave it, leave it.

Just ignore it.

He's not worth it.

I was praying that it was going to be him going,

I'll do, I'll do a deal.

That would have been absolutely perfect because he was so,

he was the one, did we mention,

we mentioned about the curb wheels thing,

although the dad wheels.

Yes, they did a little bit.

He was obsessed with the fact that he refurbishes the wheels on all the cars,

despite the fact that there are far more important parts of cars than the wheels.

Even on the boot full of water.

That's a little bit of a red flag of the dealer when it's like...

All we care about.

It's the appearance, not the appearance,

because it's not perfect looking,

but it's like the, I want to distract you with shiny things.

Yeah, Magpie.

So that you don't see the sort of little...

Yeah, it's literally him going,

I've just, I can't take the money off of refurb the wheels.

We'd all will put together the wheels on refurb.

No, look at all my other cars that have refurb wheels.

I don't care.

Yeah.

No, it's a car dealers can really be quite insufferable, which we learned.

But anyway, so that's the end of the GTD and the 2000 daily,

for the time being anyway.

But more Ben Dramas will follow.

Oh, they're sure, they will.

They will be coming.

I think that's 90% of my creamers are listening at this point.

They go, oh, I think nothing to listen to.

Ben is there.

Ben's daily saga is like Lord of the Rings.

It's like the lot.

It's a slog to get through.

Yeah.

And they come out with a hobbit as well after that,

like another eight hours.

That's Ben buying a motorbike.

That's nice, isn't it, guys?

I think the next big thing,

I think there'll be a crash in your future.

Oh, why would you say that to someone?

You know, we're up.

We'll just speak that.

Meanwhile, Will at Ben's funeral in two months.

I didn't mean it.

I'm sorry.

Nothing, nothing bad.

I'll explain.

It wasn't your fault.

How could this be my fault?

I don't care who's fault.

I just, I don't like,

rather it wasn't my fault,

but I don't want to get a crash.

Someone bumps into the gulf

and you get a little bit upset.

Here's my question, Ben.

You crash.

It is your fault.

Right.

Just, you know, put yourself in your shoes.

How soon after the crash are we talking milliseconds,

seconds, minutes that you think,

oh God, like I have to tell them about this.

Like they're going to find out about this.

Oh, I'm pretty numb to it these days.

I probably think about it in the,

I reckon definitely the first half now.

Maybe before that 15 minutes.

More recent if it's your fault.

And like, my fault.

No, yeah, it's your fault.

Like you understand into a hedge.

I think it's the first thing you think of.

Doing something dumb, it'll be up there.

Straight away, you just go, oh.

Before it's actually happened.

You're just going into, going,

no, no.

I didn't think that during the redacted S2000 instant,

that was one of the first things I thought,

obviously we won't go too into it,

because obviously it is redacted.

We can't, we're not allowed.

But yeah, it's all blocked out.

But confidential.

But it was one of the first things I thought,

which was the Edwin's watching me as we speak.

He's directly behind me.

Okay.

So that's good fun, isn't it, everyone?

Thanks for that.

That's a little insight, Brent's Bane.

Well, we've been to Bane, Brent's Bane.

Now on some thrilling topic from Benjamin,

Euro seven emissions.

Bringing it right back down.

The context, they may have followed me for this.

Brent's got a GTT and he goes,

so are the emissions in this country, eh?

It's actually Euro six.

I've been doing 50 MPG and I think there's more in it.

35 pound tax.

I know, on a wind farm.

Euro seven emissions,

which is the newest emissions regulations.

What does that mean?

All new cars have to do to be able to be on the road.

Basically, it means there are a certain level of,

of, of clean, clean to be on the road.

Currently Euro six has been for about 10 years.

We've got from November of this year, it's Euro seven.

That's all new cars.

All new cars have to comply.

Now, do you know what's meant to are?

This is the reason I brought it up.

Obviously, right now it's emissions.

It's your, you know, your CO2, your, your NOx.

Now it's about even things like brake pads and brake dust.

What?

They're measuring what comes off your car entirely.

So it has to have a certain amount of like wear.

People with track pads.

No, no, no, no, no.

Literally, so yeah, that's not having wheels that collect the dust.

So you can't, I can't argue.

Well, so that's part of it.

They're testing to, it's all of everything that comes off the car.

They're testing.

What?

Yeah.

So how?

That's just what I read.

I guess there's not actually, there's not much else that comes out of the rubber.

Yeah, rubber and then heat from the engine.

I guess it'll be heat that makes things come off.

Yeah, maybe.

No, that's crazy.

Shall I find out for you?

Wow, air con drips on the road.

Government.

That's water.

That's condensation.

There's that water come from you or your car?

Wait, wait, wait, I'll boost myself.

Where's that water come from?

You owe us for that.

It's the one before me.

I'm honest.

I don't even have AC.

Please.

AC leaks right now going through the roof.

My arse comes out of the car.

Farting.

Right.

Charge me for that.

It might be.

You fart and you open the door and the government's there going, put that back in.

They go, no, no, no, no.

You owe us money on that.

That was a bad one.

It's not, it dealt it though.

You owe me.

So it now includes electric vehicles as well.

Okay.

So, meaning like tires and brakes and that sort of thing.

But those are, so is that just for electric vehicles or it's all?

Everything.

But electric vehicles now, obviously electric vehicles are just tax.

So they've just found a way to work out a way to tax electric vehicles?

Yeah, but it's also now all cars.

It's just, if you want to make a new car, it has to have.

It also has to say that you have to have electric vehicles as standard

to introduce minimum performance requirements for battery longevity.

80% of health after five years or 100,000 kilometers.

And vehicles must maintain this compliance.

So if your car gets old, must maintain it for 200,000 kilometers or 10 years.

So if I hate that or 10 years, well, it's just not, no one's getting to 200K in 10 years.

No one's doing it.

So, but that means that basically it has to, it has to be year seven and it has to now,

I don't know how they test for that though, but it has to now be rated.

So like how do, because obviously people buy different pads and I'm not just talking about

like performance pads, you go to an iShares or whatever, you're going to have five different

options of pad that might be different compounds. Do they then have to conform to a...

But that's like saying then, you know, I could just, you know, DPF to leave my car and then it's

not year six.

No, no, but you can buy these parts from them.

Aftermarket, but that's fine.

Yeah, but, but yeah, I guess they'd say that it's not, it needs to be OEM then.

They wouldn't, I don't think they can enforce it, that's the thing.

But that is now a thing they have to, I assume it's for the manufacturers

when they initially produced the car.

I just wouldn't know how they're measuring that.

No fair.

Massive like...

Yeah.

Just go, yes, doesn't go bad.

No pads, no.

All good.

No pad engine braking, that's it.

I've done it.

Magnets.

No more.

Made the tyres out of wood.

Be fine.

Pads are made of just solids, a wind farm.

Just solid metal.

Unless it's then...

Parachute.

I've got a parachute.

Unless it's...

No, what's the tax app?

Yeah, what's the tax app?

Unless it's the way the car works to wear them down.

So if the braking system has to work in a specific way, so it doesn't wear the pads down.

His car just brakes getting really bad because they don't want to use it.

Or like tires, yeah.

Like brand new cars with just like tiny little one-pot brakes.

What's good for us?

Can't afford it.

We're trying to bring costs down.

Yeah, no, it just sounds dumb.

Yep, to me.

Someone's thought about it somewhere.

Someone knows something.

Someone said, well, I don't actually know if they did.

Should we move on to far less boring topics?

Far less boring topics.

That was quite interesting, I think.

Hey, look, it was a topic up for discussion.

Say our next thing.

It better be the most I'm ever being thrilled by this.

You actually should be.

Go on.

But seeing as you're a gardener, more than you are a car person.

No, do it.

This is the Brabham BT-92.

Show me.

And it came out in 2008.

Now, Ben, this is the equivalent to you seeing a tulip on a beautiful Sunday morning.

As a gardener, you go, wow.

Bar.

Then someone took that...

Someone got the tulip when it was like made, when it was invented.

And they went, put steroids in that tulip.

So the E92 and 3, well-known, 48VA, high-revving, body, body, blah.

You kind of know what it is.

And there's been modified versions.

People have supercharged them.

People have got some more power out of them in A.

But in 2008, Brabham.

Brabham.

As in the race cars.

Yeah.

Like I didn't know they did anything else other than...

I think they do some like actual race cars of their own.

But not tuning cars.

So they took an E92 when it was brand new.

Put a carbon fiber...

That is a carbon fiber body kit.

It's not just stuck on fiberglass and stuff.

And made 500 horsepower.

N.A.

What?

Out of the engine.

So I think it's like cams and a few other bits.

And it baffled me when I saw it.

How that...

Because I saw it on Instagram.

I think it was on...

It might be BimmerTips or one of those type pages.

And it baffled me that I'd never heard of it.

Never in my life.

Because it came out when the E92 was new.

That is an aggressive looking thing.

How much that?

In 2000, I think 2009 is when I saw the price.

Um, I'm going to say it was 120,000 euro.

Okay.

Okay, it's more than that.

Yeah, no, it's 250,000 pounds.

God.

Which are just for inflation.

It's going to be more.

It can't be far off.

400 and something grand.

Shall we to find out?

Yeah, let's do that.

But I mean, it's...

Yeah, just nuts.

Like an unbelievable amount of engine work.

Carbon fiber.

So there's a lot of mad stuff in there.

But I don't think it was received very well.

No, I've...

Well, seeing as we've never heard of one ever,

I think not many people bought them.

I was trying to find videos of how they sound.

They don't sound that...

You sound like...

It just sort of sounds like an E-103.

I would be...

508 horsepower.

It's a 4.4.

So it's basically like a GTS, but with...

Small power, like 70 or 80 horsepower more.

190 mile an hour, not to 64 seconds.

I was...

Yeah, I've never heard of one.

412,000 pounds.

Woo!

But apparently...

Okay, we'll take you.

Now, I want to...

So the 500 horsepower figure was like the...

If you buy one, that's what you'll get.

The custom, the development car,

which I think this blue car is the one that they said,

hey, yeah, we can buy one of these.

Has 460, which could just be a sort of slightly...

Because obviously, you can get...

I think you can get like 430, 440 out of them with cats and...

Oh, interesting.

So I wonder if that was...

It is a 4.4, apparently, but still.

So I want to know if it is sold.

Anyone who knows anything?

Is it anything at all?

But also more, I don't know if you have an engine bay picture on there.

It had a carbon air box.

Wow, all the way back there.

It had a sort of CSL style carbon air box and intake system

all the way back in 08.

Wow, that's a...

Meanwhile, I'll have a look at that.

All right.

Okay.

I'll do that.

Because not even the GTS got that.

Don't have an engine bay shot of it.

I can't remember.

I saw it, but it does.

It definitely does.

An 8,500...

I found one out in the wild.

A grey one.

There is...

So there's at least one that was sold.

I found one...

Was it...

Yeah.

This is on Autotocospot.

I think I found a video somewhere.

But yeah, brakes, suspension, everything.

The general consensus was it was just...

Race car harsh for the road.

It wasn't necessary.

And everyone went,

I think I'll just buy like a normal one.

I think I'll take my 250,000 pounds elsewhere.

Because I mean, an M3 would have been what, like...

50K?

Yeah.

Well, probably like 60 or 70K back then.

I went...

But for like extra 200 grand, you could make it...

Also, I think it looks like ass.

Yeah, I don't know.

I don't know.

It's that rear arch.

It's just...

There's wide body and then there's that.

It looks a little bit need for speed movie.

Yeah.

It's just a bit of a carbon body kit.

It's not very nice tool.

But it annoyed me when I saw it,

because I thought I should know about that.

You should.

Yeah, that's something you should know.

I should have at least seen it in passing.

I should at least see the picture and go,

I've seen that.

I know what that's some form of modify thing.

But I've never seen the photo before.

And I want to know how it's eluded me all this time.

That's a long years.

That's one of 18 years.

That's one of Will's quotes.

One of the outer context.

Exactly.

That is a long years.

Next up from you, Ben.

Oh, God.

BMW have said,

no one misses the iDrive knob.

Yes.

So the iDrive knob.

We all know it.

It's a little twiddly dial down by your hand,

your cup holder in early 2000s.

They start mid to late 2000s.

And it's what you control the screen with.

And you know what?

We'll agree.

Everyone in the room,

everyone in the creamers will all agree.

It's the best way to operate the screen.

It's a good way.

It's the best way.

I'd say a touchscreen is the best.

A touchscreen is the best.

Yeah.

I think a touchscreen is going to be better,

because you can just choose what you want to choose.

You just do the thing you need to do.

Yeah, but then you have to look where it's annoying.

But I also don't think an optimized interior

is having a screen as close to you.

Hold on.

Ben, you just said that you have to look away.

You're telling me, like a safe cracker,

you can put your hand on the iDrive knob,

stare straight ahead and go,

No.

But if I know.

I think this is the one you're looking at.

Four clicks to the right.

If I look over and glance and just go,

I almost said that the swivel along to...

So you just looked across.

Yeah, but what I'm saying is I have to think

about where my finger is going and what I actually press.

Brother, I'm just like twisting along.

Will guess me.

Actually, I do understand what you mean.

Because going to do a...

Because it's never that simple.

It's always...

You always have to do that.

You're not pressing something else.

Yeah.

You can't type anything.

You can't do any of that.

Typing, I agree.

Now, not all iDrive, iDrive, iDrive knobs are the same.

The early iDrive.

iDrive.

iDriven.

They're not all built the same.

Early iDrive is cack.

It's whack.

It's naff.

It can't...

It's not to be used anymore.

It's for the past.

Then they updated it.

I think it was like 2009, 2010.

That's CIC.

And then it got good because it started to make sense.

It worked like intuitively.

You would scroll one way to go down the menu,

scroll the other way to go out the menu.

You could flip left and right.

You had multiple screens.

It just worked.

You should have drawn it.

And it also meant...

You could have drawn it.

Some of them had to draw one on the top.

That was pointless.

Absolutely bullshit.

That was a lot of tickling the iDrive button.

Yeah, stop doing that.

I hate when they do this.

A, typing should not be in cars at all.

That should be...

You should only be allowed to type when there's a passenger.

The driver should not be allowed to type at all.

The whole...

Again, like a safe cracker going...

A, Z.

Stop, man.

I don't know what it is.

Maybe it's just because I was familiar with that car.

But that gen of iDrive, it just worked.

Even a keyboard in that worked.

It didn't feel like it worked to actually scroll through it

because it would scroll through it quickly.

And after a while, if you were driving the car,

you would know where things are in the menu.

Yeah, you would have shortcuts to stuff

from whatever else on the steering wheel or on the dash.

But yeah.

So what is it they're saying?

What you say interests me because I will quote the man.

So the reason this came about is because the new...

I think it's an iX3.

It's the new class thing.

That thing that we talked about while ago.

Weird shaped thing.

That doesn't have it.

It's one of the...

They're phasing it out for this new series of cars.

Sorry, I will say something.

Yes, go on.

I do believe that if there is a touchscreen,

there should also be a button,

a non-touchscreen button to navigate with.

No, that's fair.

So iDrive should have...

That you should have a knob.

We all should.

Yeah, I'm not saying that you shouldn't be able to touch the screen

if you want, like if you had to type.

But it's nice to be able to just...

If you're sat there driving to be able to have a little mouse.

No, I think we're all on the same page.

So this is from Stephen.

Stephen, don't know which one it is.

That's the one.

Just Durak.

Which is Senior Vice President of UI and UX Development at BMW.

So should know what you're talking about.

Steve says, I quote,

after using the technology,

not a single person has requested that we return to the physical dial.

Not one.

Now, that has to be a lie.

Now, yeah, I agree with that because even dentists know.

You have to say that one of them says it's not right.

One of them does not recommend this.

Statistically, one of them hates that toothpaste.

It's got to be the same.

One out of those 100 test people goes,

I drive's pretty sick.

Guys, come on.

That was quite nice.

It's quite pretty cool.

We have another one going stupid.

Yeah, the rest of it.

It's fine if the majority of you can't say everything.

Everyone feels a little bit like you are lying.

Like you're telling me that 0.01% of bacteria is not there.

Yeah, it's there.

You're telling me if the three people in this room can't agree,

you're saying everyone you've ever met has never said anything.

Also, he's talking about, here's the head of design.

How many people are going to go to him and go, I hate this?

Yeah, also, do a great job.

It's amazing.

They're getting like a focus group together.

Everyone in this focus group of people who applied for new,

modern design stuff.

They seem to love this new, modern design.

We're only paying them and getting them nice lunches and stuff.

I was in an Uber recently.

Anyway, and that's the podcast guys.

Thanks for listening.

And it was quite fortunate.

It ended up being a new seven series.

Wow, I was quite excited.

With the screen?

Hidious.

Yeah, hideous and ugly though it is.

Wow.

Yeah, nice.

Wow.

Most modern stuff where it's sort of flashing lights and glitzy

panels and stuff.

I'm not that wowed by with that.

I got in.

It's, you can't concentrate in there.

There's just stuff.

Did you watch a movie on the screen?

I was in the front.

Oh, I was in the front.

That's boring.

No, because there were three people in the back.

Okay, that's fine.

That's fine.

So you went rim from watch?

And I told my dad about it.

I pointed out because the screen folds up and goes like above the head.

And he brought it down and you can see the driver being like.

Okay, there we go.

But the screen, I mean, unbelievable.

And you've got like touch screens in each door.

It's like phone size things.

You know, like in the sort of grab panel for the phone you can take?

In the grab panel for the door where you have it.

It's like sat there.

And that's how you can scroll through the menus on there.

And then in front with me, not only is the driver there.

The handles, he was there like behind the wheel.

Look at you.

Your handles are like touch.

They're not like door handle, door handles.

They're all, it feels like that cause a battery drain away from being absolute toast.

Here's my point.

When did technology equal luxury?

When did that start?

Well, I think because like S classes have always been like that.

But their technology has not been about screens and things and buttons.

It's been about things that make you feel nice.

Like a lot of them are quite pointless though.

Night vision.

Yeah, but that's, you can have that as a feature.

It's people like a gadget.

But what I'm saying is I'm talking about designs.

Like I don't look at a screen and go, whoa, money.

I don't feel more comfortable when I see a screen.

You could have like an E38 has no screens in it, but it's soft and comfy.

That's not the comfiest thing on earth.

But I just don't understand why this, where this whole obsession with luxury

meaning it has to have lots of screens and now lights and lights everywhere.

I just don't get it.

The lights in that seven series was obscene.

Like it was an actual nightclub.

Now I don't know if it was the driver with an absolutely stupendous smelling aftershave.

But I know that some of those modern benedicts have a little,

they have a like a scent dispenser thing cause it smelled.

It was just, it was just a nightclub bathroom.

I was quite excited to have this.

What does that mean?

It's offering you aftershave.

That's right.

No way.

One of the row seats was taken up by a man already.

But then also there's a, there's like a light up panel.

It looks like something out of a space age.

It's not just ambient lighting.

It's like a full light up trim panel that goes all the way around.

Oh, I've seen that.

It's in the five series as well.

And when you, I don't know if it was the hazards on the indicator.

I think it was just the hazards.

Open the door and you put the hazards on to let us out.

And that flashed red.

In the car.

So what is going on?

It just goes like, we're going to panic you now.

Everything in the car will flash.

It felt like the car had been locked on by a missile.

I mean, I was impressed by it.

I definitely, because it was also, it's also like,

unbelievably, unbelievably uncomfortable,

unbelievably comfortable.

But I was just like, there's so much, but there's so much going on.

It's just lots here.

All I wanted to do was turn it all off.

Turn it all off.

Just get him to get home and take the car off.

Oh God, that's better.

That's nice.

I would like, screens need to get in the bin.

I would like a seat.

Not all screens.

All of the technology in a seat I'm with.

Me when I'm trying to buy a cheaper golf.

Nice.

All of the technology and massage seats and that sort of thing is great.

I love that.

Yeah, yeah.

But I don't, like when I have a TV in a car, I just, I've got my phone.

Make it really comfy for me to scroll reels in the back.

You know what I mean?

I don't need some weird TV that doesn't work all the time.

I believe that there, I don't know what it is,

that there is an optimal screen size out there.

Because I think the screen is nice.

You don't know what it is.

You need it.

Because you'd like, because we have now CarPlay and blah, blah, blah.

So it is nice, but there's an optimal size.

But what is that size?

So I look at my Range Rover size and I actually think he is a smidge too small.

I would agree.

I agree with that.

But then if you go to like the tablet thing that was in Ben's old X5,

I think that's too big.

I agree.

Far too big.

So there's some people listening to podcast who have no understanding of the sizes.

So that was a, I don't know what that is.

12 inch, 13 inch.

I think that's fine.

And then the screen was also like.

Yeah, I was going to say I don't think the screen was that big.

I would probably say 8 or 9 inch.

Yeah, it wasn't that big.

Okay, interesting.

There is interesting noise.

I think, so let's say around 10 inches.

But that's too big.

Ben, I think yours in this Golf Mark 7 is too small.

But then if you get a Mark 7.5 and the new screen, perfect.

What size is that?

That's a 5.8 in that.

Oh, I'm going to say peak.

I think it's 7 inches.

Just going off what the numbers we're reeling off here, which are here say.

I'm going to say 8 inches.

I want to say 7 to 8.

I want to see a 55 inch in there.

I want to see the 7 series for absolutely no reason.

I want a early 2000s plasma.

So the image burns in.

But it's a fact TV.

Yeah, you know, he's like rear projector TV.

I want a box TV.

But like one of the little ones from the 90s.

So when you put your hand there, it goes.

One of those ones with a proper glass screen and tap it again.

It's really thick glass.

Needs an aerial.

You have to have a remote.

Gembler for no reason in the 80s.

Okay, so 8 to 10 inches.

So perhaps tell us your perfect screen size.

Sounds a real like an Alan Paltrych.

I don't want to say anything else.

Just put inches.

So that people who haven't yet listened to this far and podcast go, what the hell?

YouTube and Spotify.

Look at it and go, okay, it's weird.

Okay, ban that.

Get rid of them.

Actually, don't do that.

Monetize.

I'm going to go, I'm getting paid this month.

No, you're not.

Ben, there's a section here that's just rage from you.

I actually can't really say it.

It says rainy motorway.

It starts with people.

Yes, people.

This was actually about a week ago now.

Okay.

That one song.

Oh, God.

Bit delirious.

What was I thinking about?

I was driving on the motorway in the rain in my nice new golf.

No fog.

No fog on this day.

You could see.

Very rainy.

And no heat.

My boot was probably filling up with water.

Of course.

It's a mark seven golf.

As they would.

And I was driving.

I realized people lose all ability to think in the rain.

It's amazing.

It becomes a carnage.

It's actually amazing.

It is raining.

No.

Okay.

The road exists in the same layout.

We're all driving to work.

We do it every day.

Also, if we lived in sub-Saharan Africa,

where rain is an incredible sight to see,

I get it, but it's England, guys.

Well, it rains since October.

We've all been, we're all aware of this now.

So what was really annoying me is the, okay.

So pulling out of lanes, right?

You might occasionally accidentally cut someone up.

Okay.

Pensive or something to it.

And I might accidentally cause a multi-car pilot.

We've all been there, guys.

We've all been there.

No.

And I can forgive you pulling out in front of me.

Right?

I've got radar guided crews now.

It's fantastic.

Oh, but little flex.

No, but it's nice.

I can just sit there and it works.

Right?

The thing that annoys me is that in the dry,

people are quite considerate.

In the wet, people are just doing it six feet from your bumper.

Yeah.

Why is it when they go, right, the conditions are worse?

The chance of death is higher.

I'm going to be more risky.

I don't think they actually realise that.

That's exactly it.

No, I don't think that either.

They only realise it when there's ice.

And then they go the other way.

They go completely there.

When it goes, when the snow happens, they go, right.

Now, now, now I'm being careful.

But rain, they go, that's fine.

A bit of water.

That'd be nothing.

But I was driving.

I've only, my tyres are only bold.

So I was fine.

But the M4 last, I think it was last Tuesday was just,

it was just mental.

Everyone was cutting each other up.

And I was like, that's going to be a crash.

Why is it that you've gone, right, dangerous?

We probably shouldn't be exceeding 70 here

because we're going to have to play in central reservation.

Let's just go 85 and just cut everyone up.

What's going on?

I don't have to do an emergency stop on the motorway in the rain.

So that's my rent.

Fair.

Fully agree.

It feels like evidence of there being an alien population on earth.

And like water glitches them out for a minute.

They all go, this is not great.

It's NPCs.

That's exactly it.

It's actual GTA driving.

Someone shot a gun near them and they were like, oh,

it's like they start weaving in about traffic.

Okay, right.

You're not quite restrained, Ben.

Yeah.

You know, considering the word you've used here anyway.

Starts with a P as well.

Was it P or is it C?

No, no, no.

I can't say that because then everyone will know what it is.

Oh, okay.

Yeah, I've put in bullshit roadworks and temporary lights.

Okay.

This happened on the way to the unit,

not far from the unit recently in the last couple of weeks.

I don't remember this.

There was some temporary lights.

Now, temporary lights appear to be this time of year everywhere.

I cannot move more than a centimeter without some orange people putting out cones and fences

and temporary lights.

And you know what?

For the most part, they work.

Yeah.

But when they don't work, the human brain turns into the size of Ben's brain.

It goes P size.

Yeah.

It goes real small.

I was at a set of temporary lights.

What a random stray to catch.

But you know when there are temporary lights and you can't see the end?

So there is a risk attached if there's a fork in there.

And you just probably fly through at 18, don't you?

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, on your side of the road, just taking out all of the wheel.

Through the road, right?

Yeah, exactly.

So that when you come back, they're clear.

And I go, I pull up beside the person, stops at the red light, and I go,

you're welcome.

Fixed it.

But there was, I could see the other people.

So I've pulled up to these temporary lights.

There are maybe three or four cars in front of me.

And you can see the other people.

I don't know how long that light's been red for.

So hold on.

You're waiting.

And they're waiting.

And I thought, I've pulled up to it.

So I thought, we must be in that no man's land where they go.

Just people are still coming for it.

And I waited for a minute or two, and there was still no movement.

And after like, I don't know, time seems to go on forever there.

And no one moved.

Nobody was moving.

There was nothing happening.

So I drove around them and went through it.

And I looked in my mirror.

So I could only see it for like another 30 seconds or so.

Still nothing.

Still no one.

Incredible.

I think they're still there now.

Turns out it was a three-way one.

And it was people going up, and we'll just keep on someone.

Unfortunately, I know the road.

So I know that there's not going to be that.

Well, you know.

And yeah, it's just stunned.

It's not only at the fact, at the competence,

that the lights don't bloody work.

Because there's people there working on it.

Builders just digging a hole.

Why don't fix your light or do something?

Turn them all red.

It'd be funny to watch this.

Watch this.

Do you feel that?

It would be quite funny.

So peaceful.

There's no one going past.

We can do what we like.

But it's just, I've had it multiple times.

Even like normal, there was a traffic light in London ages ago.

And it would not turn green.

I vividly remember this.

And I just had to drive.

I bit the horn, and this woman looked in her in the radio mirror

as if I had strangled her baby in front of her.

She looked like, like, what are you doing?

I just drove round her eventually.

Because it was, again, it was a T-junction in London.

So you could see, and you can tell,

if you've been there for 10 minutes,

do you really think a red light is going to stick a stick?

Keep it there for 10 minutes.

Here's the rules of the road, basically.

These guys are going to go, then these guys are going to go,

and then they're going to go again,

and then these other guys are going to go in.

You're not going to get a choice in this.

You're going to wait.

It feels like people don't have the brain to look at how that works.

You've already said, I can see they go, then they go, then we go.

Or sometimes it's slightly different to that or whatever.

And this kept going, that side, then that side, then that side.

And this person just sat there.

Also, the worst thing is, you know that that's what they're saying.

They're going, this is ridiculous.

Fix it.

You do it.

Use your brain.

I know some people, they think that if they go through it,

they will be struck down by the police.

Police will turn up instantly, kill your whole family,

straight in prison.

You're off to prison.

That's a 100 years sentence.

Gone.

Yeah.

If that's ever been you, look, we all make mistakes, but let's think.

Let's put our brains in gear.

And then go through the red light.

I'm not saying go through red lights, but sometimes it's okay.

Cream endorses the red light.

Next, we have Ben, you, electric vehicles are outselling ice.

I mean, like this time, yeah, I thought ice isn't really so good.

Can't be that much demand.

I've still bought some ice.

To be fair, so do I.

I'm an ice.

I like to buy ice or do you make ice?

A bit of both.

I consume so much that I go through my homemade ice.

Oh, because I don't like buying sacks of ice

because to get the ice, you have to smash the sack of ice on the floor or something.

Yeah.

Okay.

And I don't like that noise.

That's the most real thing.

When you smash it on the floor.

Not the floor, but I did say the floor.

I'll say the floor.

It's the best thing you do on a kitchen top or something.

No, you pick it up like six, seven, eight inches and you drop it on the floor

off the ground and then you drop it on the floor.

That's a specific amount.

Because if you drop it too high.

Why are you crouching down on the floor?

Because if you've done a work surface of damage.

Six or seven inches from the floor.

But what's your work surface made of?

Why are you on the floor?

I'll be instructors for no reason.

Okay.

What's your work surface made of?

Cream forecast, the person skipping through the car forecast.

Okay.

But what's your work surface made of?

I don't know.

Like, I don't know.

Fake.

What's it made of?

I don't know.

Solid.

What is it?

It's solid enough to smash right side.

I've got the liquid tabletop this one here.

Yeah, it's a water bed.

That one.

Is it wood?

I don't know, man.

Is it granite?

It's probably MDM.

I didn't build the place.

But what does it look like when you touch it?

I don't know.

They've actually painted it.

Oh, it's wood.

It's paint.

It's way about with solid paint.

Anyway, I have a wooden work surface.

If you drop the ice on it, it will damage the work surface.

So what I do instead is I chuck it on the floor.

The floor, he slashes it off his marble floor instead.

I get one of my servants to come and break it out for me.

Yeah, but I get a bit of ice and make it round.

The floor's fine.

Basically, what I do is I gently place it on the floor

and then I elbow drop it.

Oh, I did that.

I legit elbow dropped it once on the work surface.

I really messed my arm.

I had a huge bruise.

Anyway, ice.

What were we talking about?

Oh, yeah.

Electric vehicles are out selling ice.

Yeah, let me get that for you.

Sorry.

Now, absolutely random tangent there.

I went on a tangent there to help, Ben.

Yeah, I saw him research and I thought, you know what?

Let's talk about ice.

No, I'm not researching.

I haven't.

He went, yeah, yeah.

So what's your work surface made of?

And then we cut up Ben's phone.

It's just ice cubes.

Or we're here like, he's googled the word ice cube.

Okay.

So the European mark mark.

Well, John Marker, shout out.

Shout out, John Marker.

The European car market.

First time ever, EVs have officially outsold pure gasoline cars.

So in what aspect?

Just in general?

More units being sold.

We're talking hybrids up in that.

Because you're saying pure gasoline.

And you know what?

That's like, that is, you're kind of tooting your own horn here

because you banned them, basically.

You can't say, right, you're all banned.

And then turn around and go, but yeah, we've got electric cars.

Yeah, because you made us tax them on brake pads.

I actually did research this.

I basically just, there's a lot of numbers and I'm not good with numbers.

Okay.

So EVs, in December 2025, EVs were 22.6% of the market share.

Okay.

Petro only cars were 22.5%.

Wow.

So diesel was 7.7%.

Right.

And then we've got a whopping, I've lost the number.

Where's it gone?

Hopping.

Hybrid is 34.4%.

Wow.

I don't know where the rest is.

I thought there's no.

I feel like that is, we are missing a little bit there.

We're missing like 8.11% somewhere.

But essentially, if you look at it, it is now,

hybrids are outselling so everything.

So it's not entirely EVs, but EVs are now more than in the rankings

above petrol only and diesel only.

The thing I want to know is, it seems like every week or every other week,

there's like a, there's a flip side of a story that comes out.

One story comes out and it's like, EVs are selling great guys.

Like hotcakes.

And then the next week, it's like Porsche say EVs was the wrong move.

We're backpedaling.

The next week comes out and it's like Porsche is fully committed to full EV.

What's going on?

Can someone just explain who's, who's like messing around with the data?

Yeah.

What is it?

What is actually happening?

I think hybrid, I think synthetic fuel hybrids will be the future.

That's all we're going to have.

I think hybrids are kind of partially here today.

And I also, I think we've said this before,

for around town, hybrid makes sense.

If I could knock around on the EV for a little bit.

Fine.

I don't care.

That's fine.

If I can just roll around in town.

Even electric in a town.

Yeah.

I have recommended electric cars to people because I think that that's what,

I don't want it.

It doesn't fit my scenario, but I'm going, you're doing eight miles a day.

Yeah.

And you, if you can charge it home, you might as well have an electric car

because it's not going to cost you as much as having to service a petrol car

and do cam belts in five years and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

The electric car makes sense.

But also, it always seems like there's a, there's a, there's always a drive to go,

now this is the answer.

Like everyone should be driving hydrogen powered bombs.

They will be like, you have to go.

No, like the elect, the person lives in the city.

They might have an electric car and then the person lives on a suburb.

They might go, oh, you know what, a hybrid works for me.

And then everyone outside of that can have Lamborghinis.

But the, but like what we said before, there, there are cars for car people,

but the majority of people are not car people and they need cars too.

Yeah. The movie.

They need cars too.

Great film.

That's the one.

Yeah, he's a great spy agent.

He is.

In more cars three, just racing again.

Yeah, just racing.

Hold on.

Oh, I've been looking forward to this one.

Now, Ben, you put in here a TDC shitpost and I didn't know what it meant.

And then I didn't search for it.

I forgot about it.

And then I think I saw, I looked at my tag.

Yeah, you're at the Ram.

That's what I saw.

That's when I saw it.

And then I put two and two together.

Fantastic.

I got tagged exactly what we want to see from the internet and from the cream audience.

Exactly true.

So I got tagged in a post and I usually, I'll check my tag post.

I'm like, what's, what's going on here?

I don't go on Instagram that often.

And it was a meme.

I was like, that's kind of cool.

Oh, I could meme here and there.

I thought it was from us.

No, it wasn't.

It was completely unknown man.

I will give you who the, the man's name is.

His name is Ashley dot poached dot egg.

Now, first thing's first, you got egg in your name.

It's good.

Good to see.

I didn't know that was the name.

Okay.

So for instance, sorry, it's got, it's got music on it.

But one of the, it's a first frame from a TDC video and it's a zoom in.

It's kind of as it's zooming in, it's just the letter a is on screen.

And the caption is when someone asks me what the first letter of the alphabet is.

Now, now a lot of people listening are going to be going, why is that funny?

It's not, that's not funny.

But unfortunately, this is directly our sort of here.

So yeah, another one is just, it's a very blurry photo of Will with the word the,

which is another, another first frame of a video,

which is when someone asked me what the first name of Top Gear's tame racing driver is.

But are they all first frames?

They're all first frame because the original one,

because they have this amazing zoom.

It's the same thing on every video with the zoom in because it's a little bit hucking.

So shout out, shout out to you for making shitposts.

Is there a when on there?

The when one made me laugh.

No, there's the, the what?

It's is what.

That's your fun.

Me after someone repeats the same thing for the fifth time.

What?

So shout out.

We, you know what?

We love a shitpost.

Doe show some support.

With more of that, you're, you're coming up on to, to see you laser level.

It's a different realm entirely laser.

There's an enemy on my turf.

I mean, let's take him out.

See you later.

Been real quiet.

So where's our contact?

Poached egg been posting memes.

Yeah, true.

Perhaps they're one in the same.

You know what?

It's, it's, there's a lot of room in this town.

Yep.

It really is.

This town's big enough for the both of us.

It's for many of you.

Ben, you, Tesla are killing models to build robots.

That sounds, that sounds like a lot of electric news from Ben this week.

Why are they doing models?

I don't know why he got EV news.

That, you know, so you know the Tesla Model S and the X, the original ones.

They're gone.

They're dead.

Dead.

Finally, since 2012.

So three is the only one left?

Three and Y and then the, because they're going to, they're their future, they believe.

X, yeah.

It eggs.

No, wait.

What's a Y to an X?

Y is a, is a SUV, but small.

Yeah. The one that you see everywhere.

So what's an X?

The one with the weird doors.

That's a four by four.

Yeah. But it's the big boy.

What was X?

X, big SUV with falcon door, whatever thing.

Falcon wing door things.

And then a Y is.

Big model three, small model X.

That's the same thing.

Like a crossover type vibe.

A Y in it.

I think they're very similar.

The same thing.

But X is a big, big.

Yeah.

Oh, they look the same to me.

I thought they were the same car.

Same thing.

Carry on.

So those are the two classic models they've had for, I don't know.

You call it you mean to.

2012, I think was the Model S, what I read.

They're now finally killing those cars after 14 years.

Okay.

They have faced them, but they're finally killing them to make robots.

So what?

To make robots.

They want the manufacturing to make robots.

Okay. So humanoid robot.

They're making those humanoid robots, right?

Are they making the robots so that the robots can make cars?

No, I think it's so you can have your little assistant pal.

How does whack?

He comes with you.

What's it take up a seat?

Yeah, that's crazy.

No, just like, I don't know.

It does stuff for you.

Can he?

Oh, you know what?

Can he be a co-driver?

Can I get him then and get him going four left?

But then he can use like AI to be like,

I've seen that there is an old biddy up the road.

You better take the left, go around, go around there.

Meanwhile, Ben's in the passenger seat going,

another flip car up ahead.

Don't wanna pull over and help him.

Which master, that's the fourth one tonight.

Little robot, keep that doctor in my review.

Sire, he's trying to overtake.

Yes, he's getting into the crash, as I'm trying to get to.

Master, you're over-correcting.

You're going to lose the rear end.

It's gone again, master.

Basically, yeah, they want to, here we go.

We want to make a humanoid robot, basically.

Sorry, that was the pressure release.

It's a little bit richer, Potter.

The Optimus Robot.

The Optimus Robot production.

Optimus Robot's prime is what they're building.

Is that what it's called?

That's crazy.

I don't know, I read, I thought it was interesting.

They're killing off their car production,

so they could make robots.

All right.

Do you know what?

That's so sad to hear.

No, but I just thought that was a crazy business move.

It's a car maker to be honest.

There's not been many car makers that have done similar to that.

But do you know what it is?

That's a Yamaha move.

Yeah, true.

Not quite as well as the Yamaha move.

It's not like, here's the R1 also.

Piano.

Yeah.

It's like VWK in the Gulf to finally focus

on the sausages full-time.

Yeah.

Yeah, that part number, we've got to up that part number.

BMW is setting hand sanitizer now.

We'd make way more money off this soap.

Ben, another one.

Ben, you're absolutely mashing this one.

Sorry.

Yeah.

But this one's interesting because I've seen the post,

but I don't know what it is,

so you're going to have to explain this.

Ford Granada with a CCX engine.

Let's research this together, gang.

I've already done it because I knew you wouldn't have.

No, I have researched it, but I don't know much about the CCX.

I don't know much about the Ford Granada.

I thought you'd find it interesting.

Has someone said, because the Ford CCX is a Ford engine,

is it not?

No, I thought this too.

It's not why I did research.

Apparently, this is an actual Koenigsegg.

Okay, that's cool.

So, if you didn't know, the V8 in,

I was going to say the early Koenigseggs,

but all the way up until like the Rig Air.

I think even still.

Rig Air is a, no, they're their own engine.

Okay, so it's yet.

All of your CCXs, your CCR, CC8,

were basically a Ford modular V8 base engine,

but really redone and twin-charged.

So, I thought it was going to be the same as well,

but no, apparently this was an XCCX engine,

or at least a Koenigsegg engine that he then installed.

So, there is a Ford Granada behind us.

I think it's in Norway somehow got their hands on a Koenigsegg engine

and built it into this Granada, which is quite mental.

I didn't see what the final figure was running,

but I said it was prepped for around 1400 horsemen.

CCX is what, 900,000?

Yeah, 900,000.

Because they've just gone twin turbos, I think, on this,

so no twin-charged stuff.

Because, yeah, CCX is twin-charged, right?

I think so.

There were some of the Koenigseggs.

I want to say that early V8 modular guys are all twin-charged,

super-charged.

CCX is just the best Koenigsegg.

Oh, that's going to sound cool.

Just my favourite.

I like a Granada, but I feel like it doesn't.

CCX is twin-super-charged.

Okay.

1700.

That's a lot.

The way it looks, it's got a little bit of flared arches.

It's very beige, but with kind of split-room wheels,

but then OEM other than that.

It's sort of very Granada.

Which I really like.

I dislike, and I think, you know what?

The Scandinavian countries are very good at doing this,

making an OEM plus thing with silly power.

If you had that anywhere else, they'd be,

it'd have 17-foot arches and then a big wing

and a livery that says, I've got power.

No, I don't need that.

Just give me something simple and nice-looking

with a lot of power.

Oh, that?

Oh, yeah.

Koenigsegg engine.

What?

That's the classic, you know what?

One-day gap bill.

I like that.

Yeah, that would be very, very cool.

I remember that from magazine days.

Yeah.

I'm thinking I should be over 80.

What about next?

Ben, you've hosted in here a new S-Class.

Brackets, potholes.

Yeah, a lot of news this week.

There's a new S-Class.

They announced it last week this week,

which is a facelift.

And I think, you know what?

It looks quite good.

I don't like it.

I think we all know what looks better.

It looks money.

What does that mean?

You pull up in that money.

I think that's true of any S-Class.

Get the pre-facelift up there, as compared.

So, it's not new.

It's a facelift.

It looks the same shape.

Yes, yeah, but one of the things they've announced to fit

is, okay, so your car will read the road for potholes.

When it sees a pothole, or you go through a pothole,

and you jump a hole there,

it will upload the data to the cloud,

and every other S-Class will register the fact

there's a pothole there and try to avoid it.

That feels a little bit elitist to me.

Why can't it just do it to ways?

Yeah, that's fair, yeah.

Also, I like the idea that the council fill in the pothole,

which they probably won't, but...

But if you follow an S-Class, like...

Yeah, if you follow an S-Class, you should be good.

But then the pothole then disappears, and it's gone.

They filled it in, and then the car's just veering off

into the other lane to avoid nothing.

Yeah, forever, because it would just assume

that you've gone around the pothole.

It would forever be going,

there is still one there, so you should watch out.

That's an old one.

Now, granted, I've cheated a little bit.

I've pulled up an AMG one.

But I prefer that for an end.

I just think they look very similar.

But I will say modern Mercedes stuff

is what disappoints me the most about BMW.

Maybe, of course, I like BMWs more.

I've owned more and whatever else.

But I don't like many modern BMWs.

I think they all look like ass.

Whereas, when I see modern mugs, I think they look nice.

They're kind of messing it up with engines and stuff.

I saw a...

What is it?

A CLE, I think it is.

What is a CLE?

It's like a coupé.

The new thing.

C-Class.

I mean, it looks really, really cool,

but it just doesn't come with a cool engine

anymore. So it's not...

Yeah, same with the C63.

AMG, that's still objectively a cool looking thing.

I think it's one of the best looking generations of C-Class.

Looks great.

But it's got an A-Class engine in it.

But I think they're making some of the best.

I saw an E-Class.

It's not an E-Class, it's an S-Class.

That's the other thing with Merck, though.

They do look very similar.

I saw an E-Class wagon, the new one.

And they have that...

It's the light design that BYD have copied.

So it's all joined up thin in the middle,

but it has the Mercedes, the three-pointed star in the light.

That, on the road, it looks really, really cool.

And I don't think there's any BMW

that even gets close to it in terms of looks.

Well, you compare that.

That's equivalent to the new 5-Series,

which I think looks like a dog's dinner comparison.

Unfortunately, when this first came out,

this design with these rear lights,

someone, I can't remember where it was,

likened the rear lights to an anus.

And unfortunately, I cannot unsee it.

Or puckered.

A puckered anus.

And that's not great to think or look at.

No.

So I'm still not put off by it.

I was like, I like that more, actually.

And there's the podcast hook.

So four anuses, you say.

Oh, God, no, deck.

Deck for an intro.

But I think Mercedes is fair.

I mean, isn't that the same company

where the design man's left, right?

Yeah.

He could go downhill or uphill.

BMW fang style very, very soon.

But please, Mercedes, start putting V8s back in those things.

And we're so back.

Next up, I've seen this.

And I've disappointed in us.

Someone has flipped the ninky-nunk.

Someone's done it.

Not the ninky-nunk.

Someone has flipped A ninky-nunk.

Now, firstly, shout out, Holland.

You're always on some bullshit.

I knew that the moment I saw the dumper logo,

which is it, which is above on here.

Dumper is like a Dutch social media platform

that posts videos like social media videos.

The moment I saw that label,

and I saw the rear end of a ninky-nunk,

I knew what was going to happen.

I'm not sure there's a car I'd like to roll in,

roll over in less than that.

No, it's really rough.

It is.

No, I think that's still worse.

You'd rather roll over in that.

It's like having a crash in a matchbox car.

Yeah.

As you worse, because they're at least made of actual metal.

So, for those of you that can't see the audio listeners,

it is an ninky-nunk going around the corner too fast.

And it basically Casino Royals.

Yeah.

It just turns the corner and just starts rolling

into what looks like a pile of rocks, which is not great.

But the thing that the only thing I was thinking when I watched this

is that you see, you hear a car crash,

then you're very familiar with your...

Apparently.

You've rushed out activities.

You've rushed out to hand them out.

Oh, yeah, sorry.

The sound of a car crash is horrifying.

It's actually, oh, it's wild.

It's really, it stays in your soul.

But I can imagine that this ninky-nunk crashing

would have made a funny noise.

It wouldn't have sounded like...

It would not have sounded like metal crunching.

It would have just sounded like someone dropping a paper plate.

Yeah.

Just kind of plastic.

Just car too noisy.

It would have gone...

And then it would have been a bubble that said, oops.

Now, when I saw this, I panicked.

Why is that?

For some reason, the ninky-nunk is so ingrained in my mind

as a thing that we've had that I forget that they exist.

I forget they exist outside of TDC.

So for a minute, when I first saw it,

I thought someone had stolen our ninky-nunk and rolled it.

And I was actually panicking.

I would actually love, I would prefer that,

that if someone did nick our ninky-nunk that they rolled it.

That's amazing.

It would show that not everyone can handle a power.

The power only goes to a chosen few.

Just shows how good of a driver you are.

Show us the world.

You took that up a hill climb.

At that.

Mac Jesus.

I'd like to do it again this year, actually.

It's a ninky-nunk?

Yeah, let's see.

Do you think you could beat the time?

Yeah, 100%.

Maybe we should do some modifications.

Even if we don't end up doing the bike engine before,

then we can do something.

Yeah, that's good.

Enough aero that it just doesn't move.

Also, I could lose some weight and then that would surely help.

Lovely.

We can get some more.

Did we take the back seats out?

No, there were no back seat type.

Oh, no, there weren't.

It was clown shoe spec.

I also had Aiden, the social media man in there with me, who...

What are you trying to say about Aiden?

Aiden, I like you, man, but...

Wow.

You're not a person then.

But he's got to go.

He's got to go.

His seat can go too.

We'll drill some holes for some aero behind that rear bumper.

That bumper, there's a lot of air.

But the ninky-nunk currently is locked away in storage.

You can't roll it, please.

We'll do a fresh tank of diesel for you as well.

Ninky-nunk mantai racing coming to Shelby Walsh sometime this year.

That would be quite cool.

I'm now excited about that.

I want to put wider wheels on it and lower it.

That would not help you.

But I think it would look cool though.

It might help you not roll.

I don't think it'll make you faster.

Ben, you've put a new Fast and Furious title.

It's been announced.

I've heard it and I've forgotten.

I have not.

So hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

So you watched it recently, didn't you, Fast and X?

So this is now...

Now, can I just get a...

I promise I haven't seen this at all.

Is it 11?

Is that what they...

Is it something to do with 11?

No.

Isn't it because it's the second part of 10 still, right?

So is it still 10?

It's related to 10.

So is it not a Fast and Furious title anymore?

I don't care.

But I don't...

No, but I want to guess.

I want to see if I can guess.

I don't know what it's about.

I think it is a second part.

Because the 10th one ends on a cliffhanger?

Yeah, kind of.

I thought it was a two-part...

Two-part.

Yeah, I thought that.

But it's not...

I reckon it's called...

Now, the classic was Fast and Your Seatbelts.

Yeah.

It's what it should have been the whole time.

Fast 10, Your Seatbelts.

I reckon it's going to be Fast X this time it's personal.

Make it more emotional.

This time it's about fan.

No, no, no.

Like, what would the...

If you were to call it Fast Something,

it's going to be emotional.

It's going to run.

It's going to end the fan.

Fast Finale.

You're getting close.

Fast and Furious.

I want to see if you can guess your way to it.

Fast...

Who's watching this shit?

Hold on.

That was what the studio asked them as well.

The one thing that I mildly remember is they...

Because I thought surely this...

I don't know when the last one came out,

but it felt like a while ago, right?

2023.

Okay, so we're coming up three years basically.

When do you think the next one's coming out?

I thought maybe this year.

Maybe next year.

Is it a while?

It's 2023.

March 17th, 2028.

It's just two years out yet and the rest.

Are they writing the Bible?

Are they rewriting every single word?

You would think...

They're reshooting the films from the first one.

Up to the end in one take.

What was Cristiano Ronaldo in it?

As Brian O'Connor.

They're bringing Paul Walker back, right?

So, I mean, that must take a lot of post-production to the end.

I think it takes a lot of work to do that.

There wasn't a say.

The thing is what I find is that...

Right, so you made this one.

It's like a two-part, right?

I mean, the first part in...

I assume you start producing it in 2021.

Surely you'd know what the second part of it's story is.

You can't then wait seven years.

And then go, did we...

We haven't filmed that yet.

Oh.

We haven't written that yet.

Oh, no, we know how it ends.

Yeah.

No.

Yeah, we absolutely know how that ends, like, obviously.

If you've got that ending, I thought you had the ending.

Oh, no.

Let me get Cristiano on the phone.

It's so strange of things all over again,

whether you start filming the finale before they've even written it.

What is the title?

Please can you guess?

Because I think you can get that.

Is it got space in it?

It's Fast X.

I'll give you a hint.

It's Fast Something.

Fast...

It's emotional.

It's final.

We're bringing it to the end.

It's the final one.

It's the last one.

We're all a big family.

Fast Family.

Fast Family would be a top title.

Fast Family finale.

Come on, you can do it.

You can do it.

Fast, man.

Fast Frenzy.

Oh, no.

Fast Frenzy.

Fishing Frenzy.

Fast Frenzy.

No, not Fast Frenzy.

Everyone's getting close.

Fast Fishing Frenzy.

No, no, no.

Fast...

French.

Fast and French.

What is it?

Fast Forever.

That is an album title from the Spice Girls.

That's now.

That's crazy.

Fast Forever sounds like the comeback video,

like film they do in 15 years.

Yeah, it's not the final one.

I thought you were going to get there with that.

That's crazy.

Now, do we have any information on that?

March 17th, 2028.

Probably not really yet.

I like Fast Frenzy.

That was...

No, but what do you mean it's not written yet?

But Cristiano Ronaldo has already been in it.

He's on a quad bike.

He's obviously been in it.

Wait, he's been in...

No, no, no.

The last one.

They're filming it.

They're on multiple...

Ben, you can't say the last one.

You watched the last one.

I did.

They're filming that right now.

Joe, talk to myself.

They're filming that right now

because Cristiano Ronaldo's in it.

Of course, which is the natural.

I mean, we all knew that was going to happen.

It was originally called Fast X Part 2.

Which confuses me because when, you know,

big old Vin Diesel, master writer, announced it,

he said, we came out street racing.

And he went, and then someone said...

So Cristiano, no, it makes no sense.

He said, you do know you've asked Cristiano Ronaldo

to be in it, and you went, oh.

Oh, God.

And he drives a Chiron, right?

Could we just race that, maybe?

Now, we actually briefly asked ChatGPT

to find us all of the loopholes in Fast and Furious.

And it is, it's not even worth going through.

There is an abundance.

But it is quite funny how these are...

They've saved the world multiple times, really.

They're also quite serious criminals at this stage.

I hear them some terrible stuff.

But yet the government still goes back to them

and all these secret agencies go to them and go,

these, like to forget everyone else.

You know, train marines.

These don't worry about them.

Get the bull dude in.

He knows how to get these folks.

That dude can snap a speedo, like you've never seen

in a dodge charger.

And yet the government goes, despite the crime,

the government says, like, if you can do this,

you're good.

One last ride.

Despite all that, we still go back to street racing.

Also, bear in mind, they robbed a drug dealer billionaire

and could have built a racetrack on which to race.

And then went, do you know what?

I fancy a little bit of street racing.

As a street racer, it does feel...

It's kind of in my blood.

I have to, don't I?

I mean, despite the fact I've been to outer space,

I still feel the need to street race.

I think I've experienced every adrenaline under the sun.

I've swung a car across a bridge, you know,

just with its front wheel.

But you know what?

A quarter mile sounds pretty good right now.

I can go for one.

Edwin and Ben were telling me about the most recent film

because I probably haven't seen the last three or four.

And I found out that Vin Diesel has a sun.

Yep.

And that was interesting.

I didn't know about that.

But the best part of it being that he's called Brian

and everyone's like, oh, you call them Brian.

But in their universe, Brian's alive and well.

So you just called his child your mate's name

and everyone's like, that is so beautiful.

I am still here.

I'm right here.

Yeah, like I'm...

You just called your son me and everyone's like,

oh, rest in peace.

Oh my God, rest in peace, man.

And one day we'll see.

I am wonder when I see you again.

Meanwhile, Brian, hello.

Also, gonna be in the next movie.

Coming back to the next movie, that's Brian.

Brian, that's weird.

Are you going to die?

No.

When I watched it with my girlfriend,

that was one of the first things she laughed at.

She went, Brian, which is kind of fair.

In America, maybe a rare name.

But in the UK, Brian is just...

It's an English name.

I doubt anyone's been called Brian

in the last two or three years.

I don't think there's been a newborn called Brian.

Little baby Brian.

That's my baby, Brian, who's 37, by the way.

So yeah, looking forward to that.

I tried to do the research whether they started filming.

No news, and I got so frustrated,

I just asked AI and it has told me no...

Do you know what, Ben?

No news is good news.

Not for this.

Now, what if?

They've announced base skits coming out,

but the principal photography has not begun yet.

We are a podcast.

We are a podcast and we also do YouTube.

No way.

So there is a possibility we might get invited to something.

Yeah.

Now, we slandered Fast and Furious a lot,

but I think I'd still look past that to go to a premiere.

Well, Ben did.

Then went to the premiere of the last one.

I went to the premiere, I went to the earlier screening.

Yeah.

Okay.

Well, I mean, you...

I was on the red carpet.

I think that's worse.

Ben owns the whole movie theatre anyway,

so it's a slander we've given them.

I think we've earned...

Yeah, anyone's listening that can get us there at the premiere.

Now, if you can get us in,

we will be required to show Ben every movie.

So we will have to do a load of live shows across the country,

where Ben watches each Fast and Furious.

Yeah, no, I think that's what we're gonna...

I think that's all we're gonna have to do.

We're gonna have to do a tour of the UK watching 10 tours.

We'll do 10 tours.

We'll do 10 tours across the UK.

And then we'll start watching US.

We'll do 10 tours.

Then we'll do Duke of Edinburgh.

Yeah, we're gonna be out on the field somewhere.

And I think that's it.

Joe, I'd love that.

That'd be great.

If we could do some shows,

we'll watch it with the Kremers.

Yeah, and we do some live commentary along the way.

That'd be great.

Also, someone's gonna go there,

having not watched it, who's like,

cool, I'm ready to watch this

and be really annoyed by us constantly commenting about things.

Hey, yeah, just let me watch.

That's actually gonna be you, isn't it, Ben?

Yeah, I probably would get into it to you first.

Stop crying.

Joe, I actually...

So it was always a joke that I hadn't watched it,

and then obviously we start the podcast,

and now it's become such a thing.

I'd like to watch it.

I just now can't watch it because it's so much of a thing.

And I also know that there's, you know,

a live event possibly we've mentioned this before.

So worth it to not...

Oh, little podcast silence.

A little bit of a silence there.

Edwin, you've put,

I've been had brackets Tester Rossa.

Horsefowl Hunters.

Tom, a good friend of ours sent a message

after listening to the last podcast and said,

I'm fortunate I had to break it to you.

That is not Leonardo DiCaprio driving that car.

The account that's posting that is just takes videos of supercars

and just lies about who's driving them.

So apparently it's not him.

He doesn't own that Tester Rossa.

Well, allegedly.

So shout out for the correction.

That's exactly what the sort of manager of Leonardo DiCaprio would say.

Mr. Howarth.

All right, Tom.

He's trying to deflect a little bit of Hollywood.

Because again, he doesn't want...

He's in Hollywood.

He doesn't want people to know he's got my car.

So he's got his PR team on it.

Across, around the globe.

Somewhere on a Spanish car called Post.

Podcasted everywhere, all over the world.

There's people going, that wasn't...

That's not him.

Don't get it wrong again.

Don't say his name.

Don't get it wrong again.

He's also got a Veyron.

Thank you.

You've been had there.

I have it.

I've completely been had.

You've been had Facebook style.

Yeah.

No, I've been AI slopped.

And then also I've been had there.

You've been old people.

Yeah.

There you go.

Did you see DiCaprio driving that white Ferrari?

And then it exploded.

Prayers, kisses.

I'm praying for his old family.

I can't imagine how they're feeling.

Coming.

Oh my God.

This is so sad.

I mean, well...

To end the podcast, we will end with a forum.

Let's go back.

Let's do it, guys.

Run it fast.

Traditional.

This is from someone who messaged me.

No way.

Called Firsty Lasty.

Lovely.

Sure.

Creamer question.

I know you all love manual cars,

but my question is, when you play video games,

do you prefer the automatic or the manual controls?

I'm a manual man.

I am a manual.

There are exceptions.

Okay.

That's true, actually.

That's fair.

There are exceptions.

I'm trying to think what those exceptions are.

I think need for speed might actually be an exception.

Yeah.

Heard.

Because it's...

Because their manual's not very good.

Yeah, that's...

Their manual controls aren't good.

Like a Forza.

A manual.

Forza manual with clutch for me.

With a clutch.

Forza manual with clutch,

because I used to be beginning to drifting in Forza.

I used to do a lot of drift lobbies,

but it always surprises me after I come back

from playing another racing game

that Gran Turismo doesn't have clutch on controller.

Yeah.

Which is kind of fair,

because it's a controller.

You don't actually have a clutch.

You have an on-off switch.

But I like, yeah, I have to have...

You don't have a clutch kick.

Just a little round.

And it depends, like, you want a sim.

On a sim, you're going to be manual, surely.

You have to be manual.

Because you have a sim at home.

I want to get one soon.

But you're...

You are you basically always...

Are you in the car?

Are you in the car, mate?

Have you been picking me up in the morning?

Me and I see Will in a sim.

Are you in a car?

Do you put the gearbox to the car you're in?

Now, I'm getting madly here.

But, like, a lot of a set of course of stuff,

at least how I have it set up on content manager,

is it automatically does that.

So, if the car's a manual,

you have to use the H-Pattern shifter,

which I have.

If it's a...

If it's...

Well, it's not like if it's an auto.

It's an auto.

It'll be on FlappyPattern.

This is a CVT, mate.

You should just throw it.

I don't have the shifter for this.

So, like, I can't like it.

But yeah, it just...

It feels more...

There is a weird part of that as well,

because it's like, obviously,

I have mine set up as a right-hand drive thing,

because that makes sense.

You go inside a car that's left-hand drive,

it feels a bit like...

This is a bit weird.

You get one for each side.

Crazy flat.

Two gearboxes.

But, yeah, it's...

I would go manual most time.

What would you think I'd do?

You're an auto man.

He's your full auto man.

I'd like to go auto if I'm just chilling,

but I also do enjoy...

I'm just chilling.

It's a race.

Ben just drives off at five.

I'm trying to think of other...

Oh, midnight club.

I would have been auto.

Oh, yeah.

I think I would have been auto there.

I can't even...

I wouldn't even know what...

Any game that has, like,

nitrous and all sorts of that sort of stuff to do,

all right, forget manual controls at this point.

Anything with brake to drift.

Yeah.

I like to really get into it.

Like, if I play Forza,

I like to sit at my desk with a monitor close to my face,

rather than sitting, like, bed or on the sofa.

So, it's close to me.

It feels like you're there.

And I like to wear big headphones

that have, like, noise cancelling.

So, I feel like I'm really in it,

and I can hear the shifts and stuff.

If I'm just sound so for chilling,

I can't really hear it well enough,

and, you know, I don't want to blast it through the house.

So, I just...

When you...

And then also when you're playing again.

Wow, crazy.

When you...

When you go to get...

When you're playing at your desk...

Yeah.

Do you walk up to the seat?

Like, it's a car seat.

You're getting it.

Like, do you embrace the whole thing?

It's like...

I treat it like a GT3 car.

Like, sort of in through the window.

You have to jump over the armrests.

You let the car warm up as well.

Yeah, yeah.

No, I wouldn't do that.

No.

You put a backpack on,

so it feels like harnesses.

Yeah, no, I don't.

Okay, tighten those straps up.

There are.

I've been seeing in a few videos,

I think there's an old guy somewhere on Instagram.

There is an old guy on Instagram.

But he's busting out harnesses.

I can't condone that.

I understand there is a level of realism,

but we have to remember,

these are games.

These are games for our enjoyment.

And some of it is like practice and learning,

and how to drive and how to drive faster.

But I think harnesses might be a step too far.

Now, here's my question.

Nine times out of ten,

or all times out of ten,

are you in your socks?

Now, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

I will, because it's quite funny actually,

because it makes me laugh.

I normally use socks,

but it's annoying because it hurts.

Yeah, hurt fair.

If you're hailing and towing,

it actually genuinely hurts.

So I don't want to take any shoes from downstairs.

You got sim shoes.

They're not sims.

Is it crocs?

Brown loafers.

We're at the center over here in the simulator.

Brown loafers,

because they're like not that worn outside,

so they're not like disgustingly dirty,

but they're usable.

So they're just,

and you can just slip them on as well.

I'm there probably in tracksuit bottoms,

white socks and brown loafers.

Gloves, I draw the line at gloves.

Postman comes in.

What am I looking at?

Yeah, I'm racing.

I am racing.

Got 24 hours of limon on upstairs.

Gloves, I draw the line at.

Although Alcantara,

I cannot sort of understand it,

because the used Alcantara will I've got,

because the whole set up is used,

is disgusting.

It's like unsavable, at least to me anyway.

So I can kind of understand that,

but just wash your hands

and clean your wheel every now and then,

rather than...

I couldn't be found wearing gloves.

In your own house.

In my own kind of crazy.

What would you do?

I'd like a sim, I think.

How would you dress for your sim?

I reckon bend the type of guy

to have an outfit for the sim.

I'm a big...

I don't really like...

A suit and a hands device.

Safely first.

I don't really like wearing joggers,

so I probably have to dress up for it.

Would you be wearing your jeans?

Probably.

Or underwear?

Would you go underwear,

but with the full Stig Alpine style shoes,

that goes up like, you know...

No, I don't really like wearing...

I'd wear some joggers at home if it's,

you know, the evening.

Maybe it's Saturday afternoon.

So you're racing in the evening.

Yeah, like an evening race.

If you were doing 24 hours of Le Mans,

would you have multiple fits throughout the...

Wow, you couldn't stop doing this

over four hours or something.

Yeah, a few hours, you'd stop and go,

oh, you just posed in the front of the mirror.

Yeah, I wouldn't be able to...

Shorts, lovely.

What would you wear, ideally?

Nothing.

No.

Completely naked on the sim.

I don't know, I believe you.

And my post would walk up and go,

whoa, why'd you come upstairs?

No, no, I'd be downstairs.

I'd be like...

The moment you opened the door,

my sim would be right there.

It's bang in the middle.

You'd open it and then the screen...

You'd be looking at the back of the screen

as you opened the door.

So I'd be...

You'd just see me eye level.

I'd go, not now busy.

Just doing spa.

Come back in a day, I'm doing 24 hours.

I'm actually getting quite into it.

Not into like sim racing.

I can't really get into that yet,

but it's the whole PC and the mod thing.

It's cool.

It's incredibly hard now to go back to...

I will load up every now and then,

4-0 or even Gran Turismo.

And I'm like, this isn't the same.

You can do anything you want.

There's a guy, I don't know how well known it is,

but like the sound mod stuff.

There's a guy called Gabe IS 300.

And I think he's in the US,

but he does sound mods and he has a Mercilago one.

And I've spent so much time driving that

because it's perfect.

It's perfect.

I know that this guy, obviously,

he's focusing on one mod.

You can say game companies don't have time to do that, whatever.

But it is perfect.

He's done all of the beeps in the car,

that the shifter clicks on a manual version.

You have to start the car.

You have to key a button to start the car.

I always wonder about that.

And I know, I understand that it's probably from a...

When you're trying to ship like a AAA game,

everything needs to meet certain benchmarks

that have to be done a certain way.

It's like the equivalent that you've been editing.

You wouldn't want 30 different people

doing different sections of the video

because it's very hard to patch them together.

But why not outsource stuff like that?

Make a model and then outsource the sound

to someone who can do it the best.

Give that guy 10 sounds in another one.

Because it's not just one.

There's multiple out there.

If you gave that to...

Maybe it's something there's a specific way

they need to make it so the game runs.

I don't know what it is.

There must be some technical reason or a budget reason.

But the stuff this guy churns out,

and others as well, is actually unbelievable.

And even some of the car models as well.

They're actually putting together really good car models

based on nowhere near as much like the tech that these guys have.

The F10 that I tried when I was at yours.

That the fact that when you start the car,

the startup process is like a real car.

And then the bang and all of a sudden,

the audio rises up like the real one.

And the mirrors fall down.

That's so cool.

That's the sort of stuff that makes you feel like,

oh, this is actually a car person's game.

And there's little details.

To be fair, the newer set of course is doing sort of

like the actual EVO.

Because obviously that I guess is...

There's no mods involved there.

Like there's an M3 CSL.

And you can have normal and sport and sport plus or whatever.

So there are actual like modes for each car.

And you can see the Manitino switch changing for us.

And those little details are cool.

But I just think that's where some car games...

That's where people like us, which is maybe, I don't know,

maybe we're the manitino on car games.

But those little details are what make me really like a car game.

Not like, hey, it is 800 cars and they've all got no details.

Cream ever makes it big enough.

TDC ever makes it big enough.

We'll do a game and we'll make it proper.

No, they cream, and we won't be taxing your brake pads.

Don't worry about it.

No, it's right.

We just might.

They'll be in microtransactions.

Right. Shall we wrap it up there?

Thank you very much for listening.

See you next week.

Right.

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