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C.R.E.A.M. #78 - Gallardo Sold, Car Event Names and US Emissions Regs
C.R.E.A.M. #78 - Gallardo Sold, Car Event Names and US Emissions Regs
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About this episode
The crew kicks off with car-life updates: a paid “pay what you think” detailing job, an S2000 battery scare, and a growing pile of cars being sold—Clio is gone, Range Rover may go, and the Gallardo is in the process of leaving. Will’s McGann is in storage with an oddly mismatched cushion, while Ben’s TVR flex turns into a grinding-rust day on an E55. News sparks debate: the US has rolled back major CO2/emissions rules, potentially reviving bigger-engine cars, while the UK/EU won’t follow. The show also covers used-car buying tactics (CarVertical checks), auction listing “fluff,” and a wild discussion of a Chinese EV with a built-in shower. They wrap with influencer-style car pitch games and a rap lyric deep-dive.
Topics:
3 litres of diesel for every 100 kilometres
90 MPG
Alcantara
auction houses
black on tan
BMW
boot
BYDs
Car Vertical
CarWow
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Car
Lamborghini Gallardo
"Learn more at goallinandwin.com. The Gallardo isn't the process of going. Wow, wow, wow, wow."
The Lamborghini Gallardo is a supercar made by Lamborghini. It’s known for being very fast and having a loud, exciting character. The podcast is basically reacting to how impressive it is.
The Lamborghini Gallardo is a V10-powered supercar known for its aggressive styling and strong performance. It’s often discussed because it’s one of Lamborghini’s more approachable supercars in terms of reputation and availability compared with the brand’s most extreme models. In the podcast, it’s emphasized with excitement—“wow, wow, wow”—suggesting it’s a standout moment.
Car
Honda S2000
"Oh, careful. I can start you off. Yeah, sure. Rule. Why is that? S2000's back, and he's out of storage."
The Honda S2000 is a fun, sporty Honda roadster. When they say it’s “out of storage,” they mean it was parked away for a while and is now being used again.
The Honda S2000 is a lightweight, rear-wheel-drive roadster known for its high-revving engine and balanced handling. Mentioning it “back” and “out of storage” suggests the car is being brought back into regular use after being stored away.
Term
black on tan
"[373.6s] It's just cool. [374.3s] It's cool to say. [375.2s] But it's black on tan."
“Black on tan” describes a two-tone interior and/or exterior color theme, typically meaning dark (black) surfaces paired with tan upholstery or trim. The speaker treats it as a major positive because it matches what the listener would like.
Company
CarVertical
"Obviously, before going to see that car, I wanted to do a CarVertical check on it. And it all came up pretty good."
CarVertical is a service that checks a used car’s history. It can reveal problems like accidents or title issues that the seller might not mention.
CarVertical is a vehicle history report service. It aggregates data (like reported accidents and title/ownership history) to help you spot issues that may not be disclosed in the listing.
Company
CarWow
"The CarWow gods have come through. We've talked about them before."
CarWow is a website that helps you find car deals. The host is basically saying they found a great bargain through that service.
CarWow is an online platform that helps shoppers find deals on cars by aggregating offers from sellers. When the hosts say “the CarWow gods have come through,” they’re crediting the service for surfacing a surprisingly good price.
Term
manual
"Yeah, manual. Got to have some money, a regular one for that."
“Manual” means you shift the gears yourself instead of the car doing it automatically. Some people like it because it feels more connected to driving.
“Manual” means the car is equipped with a manual transmission (a gearbox you shift yourself). In enthusiast circles, manual transmissions are often preferred for driver engagement and control.
Term
Alcantara
"I'm not Alcantara. Alcantara at all. It's not quite vulgar because that makes me feel ill."
Alcantara is a fancy fabric used inside some cars. It looks and feels like suede, but it needs gentle cleaning so it doesn’t get damaged.
Alcantara is a synthetic suede-like material often used on car interiors for seats, steering wheels, and headliners. It’s popular because it feels soft and has a high-end look, but it can be sensitive to oils, abrasion, and improper cleaning.
Term
curb
"It was one of those roads that the curb, it had like a bowling alley. ... That curb came out of nowhere."
A curb is the raised edge at the side of the road. If you hit it, it can scuff or bend your wheel and sometimes cause other alignment or suspension problems.
A curb is the raised edge at the side of a road. Hitting one can damage wheels, tires, and suspension components, and it can also bend or misalign the wheel.
Term
rust
"[1035.6s] Are you suggesting rust didn't exist? [1038.0s] Pre-2005. [1041.0s] But it didn't exist."
Rust is when metal starts to corrode and break down because of water and air. Cars can rust faster if the paint or protective coating gets chipped or worn off.
Rust is corrosion of metal caused by moisture and oxygen, typically starting where paint or coatings are damaged. In car terms, “rust protection” refers to factory coatings, underbody treatments, and how well a vehicle is maintained to prevent corrosion from taking hold.
Brand
BYDs
"[1076.9s] So do you believe then in 20 years time that cars being built today, like all these BYDs [1080.6s] and stuff, they're going to be rusting? [1081.4s] Yeah."
BYD is a car company (mostly known for electric cars). The speakers are using it as an example of newer vehicles they wonder about in terms of rust.
BYD is a major Chinese automaker known for electric vehicles and batteries. In this segment, BYD is brought up as an example of newer cars that the speakers worry could have corrosion issues over time.
Term
NDMX5
"[1081.4s] Yeah. [1082.3s] Oh, really? [1083.0s] What are they made of? [1084.7s] NDMX5. [1085.3s] N-C-N-N-D-M-X-5s are rusting badly already."
They mention a code/name for what the cars are made of, but it’s not clear what it means. It could be a material type or an internal code, but the transcript doesn’t give enough detail to identify it reliably.
The transcript includes “NDMX5” and then a spelled-out sequence, presented as a material or code related to what the cars are “made of.” Because it’s unclear what the term actually refers to (possibly a transcription error or an internal material code), it’s hard to map to a specific automotive material with confidence.
Term
CO2
"So EPA have rescinded their 2009 endangerment finding saying, basically saying that CO2 is bad. They've gone, it's probably fine."
CO2 is a gas that comes mostly from burning fuel. It’s a big contributor to climate change. When people talk about CO2 rules for cars, they mean limits on how much CO2 cars are allowed to produce overall.
CO2 (carbon dioxide) is the main greenhouse gas associated with climate change. In US policy discussions, CO2 is treated as an emissions target for vehicles because it correlates with fuel use and energy production. Vehicle CO2 limits are typically enforced through regulatory frameworks rather than tailpipe “smog” standards alone.
Term
EPA
"So the actual things that they've rolled back on, emissions rules. So EPA have rescinded their 2009 endangerment finding saying, basically saying that CO2 is bad."
EPA is the US agency that makes and enforces environmental rules. It’s involved in emissions regulations for cars. Here, the speaker is saying the EPA changed its legal position on CO2.
EPA stands for the US Environmental Protection Agency. It plays a central role in setting and enforcing federal environmental regulations, including emissions rules affecting vehicles. In this discussion, the EPA’s legal actions around greenhouse gases are presented as a major driver of regulatory rollback.
Brand
BMW
"Imagine if you said to BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Ferrari, Lamborghini, [1380.4s] Alfa, any of those and said, do we want..."
BMW is a big German car brand known for performance and luxury. Here it’s mentioned as one of the companies the speaker is talking about in general terms.
BMW is one of the major German luxury and performance brands referenced in the discussion. The speaker is using it as an example of a manufacturer that could be asked to change how it sells or calibrates vehicles for a market.
Brand
Ferrari
"Imagine if you said to BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Ferrari, Lamborghini, [1380.4s] Alfa, any of those and said, do we want..."
Ferrari makes high-end supercars. The speaker is using it as an example of a brand that might be impacted by the same kind of market pressures.
Ferrari is an Italian supercar brand used in the speaker’s hypothetical. It helps set the context that even exotic/performance-focused brands would be affected by market rules and consumer preferences.
Car
M5
"[1419.2s] Think about how many C63s, M5s things you see driving around in the UK. [1423.0s] People are still willing to do it."
The M5 is BMW’s high-performance version of its 5 Series. The speaker is using it as another example of a performance car people still choose to drive.
The BMW M5 is a flagship performance sedan from BMW’s M division. The speaker mentions it alongside C63s to show that people in the UK still drive these expensive-to-run performance cars.
Term
3 litres of diesel for every 100 kilometres
"Lupo 3L, it means it uses 3 litres of diesel for every 100 kilometres it does. It translates to about 90 MPG."
“Liters per 100 km” (L/100 km) is a common European fuel-economy metric that expresses how much fuel a car uses over a fixed distance. Lower numbers mean better efficiency, and it’s why the episode can convert it into MPG for listeners more familiar with US units.
Term
90 MPG
"It translates to about 90 MPG. I'll be honest."
MPG (miles per gallon) is a fuel-economy unit commonly used in the US/UK. Converting from L/100 km to MPG helps compare efficiency across regions, and “90 MPG” is an indicator of how extreme the Lupo 3L’s efficiency is.
Concept
half a million kilometers
"And you are coming back to England, whether you like it or not. With half a million kilometers on it. And it just went,"
“Half a million kilometers” is a mileage marker that signals high use and long-term durability. In car discussions, it often frames whether the vehicle is still enjoyable, what maintenance history might look like, and how wear items (tires, brakes, suspension components) could have been handled.
Term
motorway
"Ben, on the motorway, silent. I don't believe it. It makes no noise."
A motorway is just a big, fast highway. They’re saying the car stays quiet and smooth when you’re driving at those speeds.
A motorway is a high-speed highway (often with multiple lanes) where cars are judged on stability, noise, and ride comfort. In the segment, they’re talking about how quiet and calm the car feels during steady driving.
Term
roundabout
"It doesn't matter what speed you go into a roundabout at. We've tried this. It will make no tire squeal. It will just go around the roundabout."
A roundabout is that circular intersection where you turn and keep going around. They’re saying the car can handle the turn smoothly.
A roundabout is a circular intersection where you enter, follow the curve, and exit—often at varying speeds. The discussion focuses on whether the car’s grip and balance stay predictable without drama like squealing tires.
Car
Honda Beat
"[1812.0s] Ben, what would you make? [1812.9s] What would you make your cars are? [1814.1s] I would make a Honda Beat. [1816.2s] Oh, big long boy."
The Honda Beat is a small, lightweight kei sports car known for its compact size and fun, tossable driving feel. The speaker’s choice suggests they’re thinking of a quirky, enthusiast-style car rather than a traditional long-wheelbase limo.
Term
V8
"[1858.4s] That was some slightly bigger wheels. [1860.3s] I'm assuming it's, it'll be a V8. [1862.0s] Yeah. [1862.6s] V8, yeah."
A “V8” is an engine with eight cylinders. People often like V8s because they tend to feel strong and sound great.
“V8” refers to an engine configuration with eight cylinders arranged in a V shape. It’s commonly associated with strong power and a distinctive sound, especially in performance cars and trucks.
Term
side car
"[1934.7s] That's not a side car. [1935.7s] Hers is it. [1936.6s] That's tough. [1938.1s] You know what?"
A “sidecar” is an attachment mounted to a motorcycle that adds a second seat and wheel, effectively turning it into a small three-wheeled setup. The speaker is using the term to describe a configuration that looks like a sidecar carrying a house-like structure. It’s a niche but useful term for understanding the vehicle setup being discussed.
Concept
production of Jaguar Land Rover cars in mainland China
"[2226.5s] Is it Cherry or is it Cherie? [2228.7s] Cherie is better. [2230.1s] It was formed to allow production of Jaguar Land Rover cars in mainland China. [2233.3s] Right."
They set up this partnership so Jaguar and Land Rover cars can be built inside mainland China. That can make the cars cheaper to deliver and easier to supply.
The goal of the joint venture is to produce Jaguar Land Rover vehicles locally in mainland China. Local production can reduce import costs, improve supply timing, and help meet regional regulations and market demand.
Concept
auction houses
"We're potentially going to work with some auction houses soon. And we've got some ins with buying cars or auctions, looking at the auctions."
An auction house is a business that helps cars get sold through bidding. They usually post details about the car, but sometimes the info is more “story” than what you need to decide to buy.
Auction houses are companies that facilitate buying and selling vehicles through timed bidding or catalog sales. For car buyers, they often provide listings, condition notes, and provenance details, but the quality of that information can vary a lot.
Car
TVR Tuscan
"[2425.5s] I fancy a TVR Tuscan. [2427.4s] And they go on the auction page and go, bloody hell, he's got a six-cylinder."
The TVR Tuscan is a sports car made in the UK by the company TVR. It’s the kind of car enthusiasts tend to love because it’s more about feel and character than being mainstream.
The TVR Tuscan is a British sports car model made by TVR. It’s known for its lightweight, driver-focused character and for being a relatively niche, enthusiast brand compared with mainstream manufacturers.
Term
boot
"[3056.4s] Honestly, as long as the suspension can handle it. [3059.9s] If the boot can't just take 44 luggages as they are, that's not how that works. [3065.0s] So it just seats down like floor to ceiling."
In UK English, “boot” means the trunk. They’re talking about whether the trunk can fit a lot of bags and still work properly.
“Boot” is the British term for the trunk/storage area at the back of a car. It’s being discussed here in terms of how much luggage it can physically hold and how the space is shaped.
Term
heated seats
"[4620.2s] You don't want heated seats. [4621.3s] You want pure basic. [4624.2s] You just want to live life as if you were a caveman."
Heated seats are seats with built-in warming elements. They’re nice in winter, but they’re not essential for basic driving.
Heated seats are a comfort feature that warms the seat cushions and sometimes the seatbacks. They’re typically controlled by a switch or climate system and can be a selling point in cold climates, but they add cost and complexity compared with non-heated seats.
Term
EV
"And then get paid by sort of EV company and say, that is actually amazing compared to that."
EV means electric vehicle. It’s a car that runs on electricity from a battery instead of using gasoline.
EV stands for electric vehicle—cars powered primarily by electricity stored in a battery rather than gasoline. In the current car scene, EVs are a major focus for both product development and media sponsorships.
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The Gallardo isn't the process of going.
Wow, wow, wow, wow.
You're not going to say anything?
No, I wasn't going to.
Feud and grill.
Feud and grill.
It's just slop and arguments.
Otherwise known as the cream podcast.
What's heavier?
Not stainless steel.
A pound of steel or a pound of feathers?
I think the sausage will be upside down.
Right, we've got it.
Hello, and welcome back to the 78th Cars Rule Everything Around Me
podcast with myself, Will, Edwin to my right,
and Benjamin over there behind and in front of a camera.
At the beginning of every one of these podcasts,
we ask ourselves, do cars rule or ruin everything
around us this week?
Ben, would you like to start us off?
Oh, careful.
I can start you off.
Yeah, sure.
Rule.
Why is that?
S2000's back, and he's out of storage.
Washed.
So pointing in the same direction?
Washed.
Okay, you know what?
Most people coming to this podcast,
I'm going to hear about behind the scenes of videos.
I'm going to hear about purchasing a car.
Ben, I washed my car.
My car's clean.
Yeah, I know.
Shout out to Robin from Viking Detail.
So you washed my car.
Didn't even clean your own car.
That's how rich you are.
I just don't like any cars.
And then Ben won't like this at all.
Robin said to Ben, you pay what you think.
Ben said, that's cool.
That's cool.
Yeah, I'll do that.
Of course I'll do that.
No, Robin said it was no.
And then you came in here.
Ben came in and went, how much do I pay?
What should I pay?
Okay, that makes some really bad stuff.
That's actually a tough one.
No, hang on.
This is actually a tough one.
No, but I'd like to ask a question to you.
How did it get resolved?
I paid him.
No, of course you paid him.
But how did it get resolved as to how much to pay?
There was a way in which that we worked that system.
Okay, so what happened was is that he offered it free.
I'm about seven times.
I was like, no, I'm paying you to do it because it's your time.
And he said, of course you offered that.
Yeah.
Well, I did so.
Actually, I want to pay you.
So I was like, I'm going to pay him.
And then he said to me, you know what?
I don't want any money, but pay whatever you like.
It can be a pound.
It can pay with your body.
20 million quid.
So I said to you guys, because I don't know.
I haven't ever had like an actual detail or detail in my car before.
I was like, what's the rate for that?
And then, yeah.
No, let me then see because you won't say it.
Why are you doing this?
He's going to listen to this now.
No, we said you say a number and then Will will react.
But you went in at the correct number.
How much was it in the end?
50 grand, right?
50 grand.
There you go.
Robin is loving life.
Robin is not detailing cars here.
Shout out, Robert.
Sorry, Robert.
Kind-hearted man.
If that was too little, man, let me know.
I'm sorry.
I just want to make it right.
I don't want it to sound like I was, I want to try to go too low.
I'll just make it back to Ben over here.
Ben just reached into his car, jangled some coins and went, howdy.
I mean, throw it at Robin as hard as he could.
He said, here's a, like, like Robin was jangling a cup around in front of him.
So, but you're happy.
It's alright.
I drove at home last night.
And it drove here today.
Fine, right?
I drove the golf today.
Oh, why is that then?
Because it was clean.
Oh, is that the way?
Is it not the battery?
Oh, yeah.
The battery is absolutely matched with it.
Yeah.
It was in storage and it has one of those.
What are they called?
Batteries.
That's the one.
A cut-off thing.
Yeah.
Where the negative terminal has just a twisty thing rather than a bolt.
Does that make any sense?
Yes.
No, that's fine.
You basically twist this little knob and then you can take the terminal off it.
When it's in storage, it doesn't die.
I didn't do that.
So, the car died and then when batteries die, they can sometimes actually die.
Also, that battery is very old and has already been a little bit.
So, I think it's time for a new battery.
So, I drove at home last night about 95 miles.
An hour.
An hour.
Yeah.
Well, less than an hour, yeah.
Yeah.
And I got home.
I was like, I'll just quickly get back in it and just move it again and then click.
I was like, cool.
Battery's dead.
So, I bought a new battery.
For the grandson of 50 pounds, which is quite cheap for battery.
Ben's like, I have to get rid of it.
I'm not doing this anymore.
I can't do this.
Why do I put this money in?
My life is now just 50 pounds.
I'll never get that, though.
50 pounds here, 50 pounds there.
Yeah.
You guys find a couple of 50 pounds.
That was more.
That was much more.
More like 50 grand.
But yeah, overall, and then I'm excited for Saturday because we have food and fuel.
It will have been.
It will have happened.
So, we are excited to see some creamers.
So, shout out if we saw you there.
Good to meet you guys.
See you in the next one.
If you missed us, we'll see you at Shellsley Walsh, which is in...
August 22nd.
So, we'll see you then.
Will.
Will.
That's you.
That's me.
Hi.
I will go with a ruin.
Oh, why's that?
There's no major reason.
Well, there is.
There's a few.
It's the limbo effect again.
Yes.
Again, as you just mentioned, food and fuel is coming up and feud and fuel.
Now, that is the 16th century version.
Feud and gruel.
Well, that might be the cream on feud and gruel.
Feud and gruel.
It's just slop and arguments, otherwise known as the cream podcast.
So, that's coming up and I was very excited because I thought, you know what, I was going
to take a few cars.
We've got a couple of different cars, don't you?
Yes, I do have a couple of different cars now.
You have five?
No, not anymore.
How many do you have now?
So, there's somewhere in the process of going.
One I can actually say is gone and that is the Clio.
The Clio is gone.
That is sold.
You get to confirm that it was.
That is sold.
The Range Rover may go this weekend.
Crazy.
As in the day after food and fuel.
Now, you literally told us about two hours ago that you were keeping that car.
So, what's happened?
Yes.
Well, that's why it's unconfirmed because we meant to go and look at a car the other
day.
I want an Alpha 159 as I mentioned last week and I found the 159 that I like.
It was a Ti, which is the spec I like.
It is a sport wagon.
It looks better.
So, it's a sport wagon.
It's a tiny bit more practical.
It's not like a proper estate car.
It's just cool.
It's cool to say.
But it's black on tan.
You'd have loved it.
Great spec.
So, we have pictures.
So, it had gray but with a view to change.
I looked at this car.
It had lots of money spent on it.
It's servicing, blah, blah, blah.
And then, bloody hell, I've forgotten.
Hold on.
That was it.
We went to go and see the car, which was about two hours away.
The pictures looked okay.
But it's being sold by a normal person.
Can you please describe the eBay back and forth?
It was the toughest.
It was the toughest.
I asked them.
I said, do you know when the cam belt was done?
What year and what mileage?
What year and what mileage was the cam belt done?
I made that question very clear.
The response I got back was, it is a 2010 and the mileage is in the photos.
Fair.
I said, no, I want to know when the cam belt was done.
Like, what year was it done?
Was it 1997?
Well, when was it?
Anyway, but that leads us into this episode.
Again, it's sponsored by our guys at CarVertical.
Obviously, before going to see that car, I wanted to do a CarVertical check on it.
And it all came up pretty good.
It was no crash damage or anything like that.
And then obviously the next step of the car buying process after you've done a CarVertical
was to go and see it where it wasn't too great.
And that was mainly because it wasn't really advertised properly.
But CarVertical came up pretty good.
I've been firing out CarVertical since then.
I've seen the emails on 159 saying, there's a lot of sketchy ones out there.
But always, always if you're buying a used car or any car for that matter,
run a CarVertical check and leave no stone unturned.
You never know what you might miss out on.
The amount of times we've looked at a car for sale, you do a check,
and there's some ridiculous damage that's been undeclared in the advert.
There were golfs that we were looking for for Ben.
Completely clean car according to the seller.
You run a CarVertical.
Oh, it's been crashed three times and it's on finance.
And you can use code CREAM for 20% off your next CarVertical.
Bundle a load of them together, get 50% off.
Shout out CarVertical.
We maybe get a 159 next week.
Hopefully. I have bid on one today.
A very cheap one.
Not exactly the spec I'm after, but it's so cheap.
The CarWow gods have come through.
We've talked about them before.
If you ask a car, they will speak what into existence.
Recently, the speaker just wasn't, and I was starting to lose hope.
And 159s I'm discovering are lots of them have rusted away,
lots of them have been broken for bits, and there aren't many.
And lots of them that are for sale are bad.
They're really bad.
But anyway, hopefully I'll win this one in the next couple of days,
and hopefully a better one comes up.
So, yeah, many ruins.
Range Rover potentially gone, Clio gone, gone.
That's two.
The Gallardo is in the process of going.
Wow.
I thought you were going to say anything.
No, I wasn't going to.
But it's not confirmed.
It's not confirmed.
It is in the process of going.
I had a very silly offer on it, and there's something coming up
that I would like to free up some capital, let's say.
An alpha 159.
Alpha 159 came up.
Lusso.
Yeah, manual.
Got to have some money, a regular one for that.
It's got kumo ties as well.
So, yeah, that's gone.
And then all I have left at the moment is the McGann,
which is in storage currently.
And so, I'm just sort of making,
borrowing and stealing my way to work.
Now, we went to the storage unit to get the McGann out the other day.
And it's, you know what?
The temperature has been rising.
It's been heating up recently.
It's nice.
Hot today.
Hot today.
Yeah.
You have some seats in the, in the McGann.
Yeah.
I saw you do something.
I'm going to put something on screen.
I need you to explain what this is.
What's that?
That's James May.
Naked.
And then Aston Martin, then 24, pouring water down himself.
Yeah.
But now, granted, that's not actually the thing I was going for.
The thing I was going for is the cushion.
Oh, the cushion.
Yeah.
Sorry, I have got a cushion in the McGann.
Will's got a cushion in the McGann.
Like a what car cushion?
Because before the McGann,
when it went away on its little holiday and its jaunt,
I put some seats in it.
I put some OMPRTs, which are a very cool seat.
But they, they're not ridiculously extreme,
but for a big chap, it's a little bit uncomfortable.
So I took a cushion from my sofa.
But I saw Will getting, Will got in to go and take it back to storage.
Oh, I forgot the cushion.
I mean, so what?
You know, my cushion for sitting on.
It's just cushion in the back.
So it, but it's just a house cushion.
Like very out of place.
Like a one for my sofa.
Can you, how can you describe it for all the listeners?
It's, how would you call it?
I'm not Alcantara.
Alcantara at all.
It's not quite vulgar because that makes me feel ill.
Crushed velvet.
Almost, but I don't want to be associated with that at all.
It's a gray house.
Will's got almost a suedey, but a softer kind of suede blue.
It doesn't suit the interior at all.
Of your house?
The feng shui of the began is really thrown off with that.
It's really ruined the ambiance in there.
But the McGan is currently the kind of only one left.
Hopefully a daily, hopefully something else in the next couple of weeks.
I want to modify the McGan though.
I want to modify the game.
I want to make it more after we drove more hardcore.
Yes.
Meanwhile, the seats that you don't like.
I realize it.
I either go back and I can't go back.
No, you can never go back.
I'm not going back from that.
I can't go and put standard seats in there or something.
No.
Seats, maybe some harnesses at a cool steering wheel.
After driving the Hack 140, I was like, I like, I like this.
I feel purposeful.
Yeah.
But overall ruin.
How was the wheels?
Not wheels.
On the McGan.
Oh, we talking about, wow, Ben, that's actually quite, that's quite.
Oh yeah.
Sorry.
That's quite mean.
Meanwhile, you making me talk about spinning my S2000.
Go on.
Sorry.
You brought that up.
And you decided to do it.
Do you know what, Ben?
I'll talk about it.
Easy.
That's unredacted.
You know what?
I was going to make an excuse, but I won't.
Okay.
I might.
No, you should.
The road fell away.
The road fell away.
It was one of those roads that the curb, it had like a bowling alley.
They just came out.
The lights up.
That curb came out of nowhere.
I haven't seen that curb before.
They must have just put that one in there.
It happens.
It happens.
It happens.
It happens in here.
And there you go.
No, I was driving in them again and I wasn't paying enough attention because I was quite
tired actually.
That was my excuse.
And I clotted it off a kerb.
The technical term.
To clot.
It's a white wheel.
So it's not, it doesn't show as bad, but it's yes.
Not happy.
Not happy.
Also like quite new refurbished wheels, at least in, they haven't done many miles.
So yeah.
That needs doing.
Not much.
Also, the car looks a bit rough at the moment.
It's been sat.
So it's got like even the headlights that were polished and now I'm just rough as shit.
So I haven't cleaned it yet.
It needs proper clean.
So it's a ruin overall.
I call it a ruin.
Just because it's, there's light at the end of the tunnel.
Right.
But I actually don't know if I can get there.
Okay.
Like I might make a side exit.
You might park up a little later.
It might be the fact that that tunnel is actually closed.
Yeah.
And you're just looking at it going, is that open?
And I'll have to either go back the other way or out a different route.
So yeah.
So yeah.
Two podcasts away.
In two podcasts.
Two podcast times.
For me, less than a week and a half.
You will have either excitement or sadness.
It will be a summer of ruin for Will.
If whatever it is, which some of you know what it is, doesn't happen.
Although there will be a spree.
Will is going to be crying either way.
A spree of some kind.
There will be a spree.
Will will have tears.
For me, it's a rule.
Okay.
Okay.
The TVR.
I took it out for some.
We did some filming with it.
I've been driving it.
I love it.
I adore it.
Everything's perfect with that car.
I took it into London for Southside Hustle.
It's great.
I parked it behind an Aventime.
Nice.
It fit.
It worked.
It was all good.
Now, Ben, Will knows about this.
On Saturday, after Southside Hustle, I came back here to do some work on the E55.
Crazy flex.
Just out in the Tuscan.
Just came to do kind of grinding rust out of rear arches of an E55.
And afterwards, I had to fill up.
So I stopped at a petrol station and went home.
I got out of the car.
There were loads of people looking at me.
I was like, okay, TVR.
You've got TVR, right?
Kind of crazy.
It was green.
It was green.
Went inside the petrol station and everyone in there was like looking at me weird.
I was like, what's going on?
And you're like, TC is blown up.
I was like, this is crazy.
TVR can't have this much of an effect.
This is why people buy supercars.
No, Ben, would you like to see why people are looking?
Here we go.
Now, yeah, turns out I was in fit.
I'd never forget that.
Can you zoom in so you can see it clear?
There you go.
That is a crazy one.
So a very long day.
For all you listeners, I was wearing a respirator as you should while grinding back the rust
on the E55.
When I tell you there's rust on the subframe of the E55, you're going to see it in an episode
in a while.
It's bad.
It's very bad.
So I was wearing a respirator and I had glasses on.
Oh, so this was after?
I had then just finished up, put everything away, not realizing my face was covered.
Like that's down the line.
That's crazy down the line.
Got into a bright green TVR, filled up and walked into a foyer full of people.
Also getting out of a car that for most people would think that is like that is a 300,000
pound car.
So when I got back to the, and I only realized when I got back into the car and then left,
pulled out of the petrol station and looked at the wing mirror and just started laughing
to myself.
So when I got back to the unit, I took that photo.
So yeah, those people went, that's all the maddest thing today.
It's a bright green car.
No idea what it was.
I saw an extra from Mad Max driving around in a green car.
A man who appears to have been struck by lightning at some point.
However, there was one small ruin.
I was talking about the Black Range Rover Classic that come up.
Yes.
And I was excited.
And my friend Will went to go and look at it.
Who's an expert.
And I got a call from him and he said, why did you send me here?
And I said, what?
What do you mean?
The thing looks good.
He said, I'm looking through three legs of the chassis right now to the other side.
It was completely rotten.
It wasn't even a parts car.
So unfortunately, the struggle continues.
I feel like rust on cars or rust in general was discovered about 10 years ago.
Like the idea of rust as a concept was not known about until recently.
Now what I mean is that every car from like 20 years ago, 30 years ago is...
I think like 20 years ago is when everything started.
That's when I remember everything.
My consciousness came into being approximately 24 years ago.
Does that make sense to you?
Because it feels like all cars used to just rust.
Like they didn't know what rust was.
Okay.
And now one day everyone was like...
He's losing it already.
He's not sure about where the brains go.
That's so clever in my head.
Does that make sense?
No.
Are you suggesting rust didn't exist?
Pre-2005.
I was sort of joking.
But...
But it didn't exist.
People didn't...
Why did they not rust protect cars back in the day?
Because rust wasn't a known thing.
It's cheaper.
But every car is like that.
It's a Range Rover.
That's an expensive car.
Yeah, true.
But also it's just...
They're also quite old.
Yeah.
I know, but I'm saying...
They're not built to last.
They want you to buy a new car every few years.
But why is it?
But now they do it.
Well, not necessarily...
Well, they do galvanisation.
Yeah, exactly.
They're not doing under seal.
They're not going to make Lannagard come down a factory.
I want you to do all of these Range Rovers in here.
We'll get the ice blasters in.
It will be noisy.
But they will do that.
So do you believe then in 20 years time that cars being built today, like all these BYDs
and stuff, they're going to be rusting?
Yeah.
Oh, really?
What are they made of?
NDMX5.
N-C-N-N-D-M-X-5s are rusting badly already.
N-Ds?
Yeah.
Say it.
Say it.
Do it.
N-Ds nuts.
Great.
They're rusting.
They're rusting.
Because some modern cars are like aluminium and what such.
Like their...
Their emotional, you know, metal.
What are they made of?
What are they made of?
Okay.
That's a question.
Unfortunately, steel rusts.
What's heavier?
Not stainless steel.
A pound of steel or a pound of feathers.
And the sausage will be upside down.
Right.
Right.
We've got two rules and a ruin.
Next week, we will see what we are.
Let's start with some anecdotes on what stuff.
Let's do it.
Anecdotes.
You put in here.
I'm struggling to read this one.
Will I pronounce it?
US.
Dude regulations.
Now, I've got some information on this.
Let me talk about things.
Do you know about this?
No, you're about to tell me.
Right.
Okay.
Good.
I want news presenters to start doing that.
Guys, just a quick question.
Like, should I talk about this?
Or if you know about it, I'll just move on.
The US have effectively ended most of their rules and regulations around building costs.
I saw this about emissions.
Yes.
This is across the board though.
They are basically all gone.
Really?
All of them.
So they're now free to go.
Essentially, they've dismantled the rules that force car makers to chase emission targets,
removing the legal basis for CO2 regulation and taking pressure off of moving to EVs and
the hybrids and efficiently designs.
It means that manufacturers can now go back to building what people actually want, which
is simple, bigger engine, less constrained cars.
So the actual things that they've rolled back on, emissions rules.
So EPA have rescinded their 2009 endangerment finding saying, basically saying that CO2
is bad.
They've gone, it's probably fine.
I don't think it's all right actually.
Mental.
Straight off the bat, mental.
They're saying, cars don't actually do much.
I think they're fine.
I think they're fine.
Yeah.
So there's now no legal authority.
There's no greenhouse gas emission standards for vehicles.
You can have CO2 basically be as much as you want.
You can do what you want.
Me more Europe.
Right.
Those brake pads.
Tell me how much.
So manufacturers no longer have to measure, report or reduce CO2 emissions.
That's a start.
Just start with.
That's crazy.
The number two, the EV mandate pressure is gone.
Emissions rules were so strict, they effectively forced manufacturers into developing EVs that
pressure is now gone.
So they don't have to make EVs to get the fleet to be within a thing.
Diesel rules have massively been relaxed.
DEF and add blue no longer required.
They don't need to do that.
Engine D rate.
I don't really understand what that means, but that's gone.
So it's like when emission systems fail, they had like backups, I think.
They don't need to worry about that.
That's gone.
And enforcement again, tampering against tampering with diesels.
And don't worry about it.
It'll be fine.
So we just roll call from factory.
Start.
Start.
Stop systems.
Don't worry about that.
They need to do it.
So they're no longer banned.
Then they're not banned, but they're no longer worth it from a compliance standpoint.
They don't have to do it.
Number five, emission standards and future rules are delayed or weakened.
So the tightening of emission systems, which has been planned, scrapped.
So they don't need to worry about that.
So that means, well, we may see some cool cards coming out of the U.S.
But what does it mean for other manufacturers?
Because obviously lots of U.S. manufacturers only really sell in the U.S.
This is what I think.
Lots of them selling like a suburb or whatever.
That is U.S.
That's your audience.
It's people in the U.S.
They're not having to go, oh yeah, but someone in London might want to buy that.
So I don't like what the German manufacturers mean.
Back on the table.
Obviously the V8 is already going back in.
I reckon that means that they tone an electric thing.
Sinar, you're getting the V8.
You're getting a supercharged bingo.
We've got...
I'm wondering if that means there's going to be European manufacturers who start going,
all right, an American-only G-wagon that has, you know, a six-liter V12 again.
That's what I'm thinking is, is they're going to be...
Well, actually, we can sort of loosen the belt slightly.
Take our trousers off.
Sometimes you get home and you take your trousers off.
I'm saying, I'm doing that.
I'm feeling pretty free and there's now no restriction.
But only at home would you have your trousers off.
In public, I wouldn't.
Because it would be silly, wouldn't it?
It would be irresponsible.
I'll be honest.
Some of it, some of it I'm fine with.
Cool.
Relax that sort of stuff.
But being like, CO2 emissions don't...
No, they don't do that.
There aren't emissions from cars.
Okay, let's come on now.
There is a level of that.
But I'm interested to see what that resulted.
Oh, I'm excited for that.
That means that that feels like an era of exciting cars coming.
Yeah.
I'm just a little bit sad it's to US.
Yeah.
Well, come on.
Also, UK and Europe not doing that.
We never do that.
I need that from Europe needs that, really.
Yeah.
We're getting Euro 9 emissions.
Imagine if you said to BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Ferrari, Lamborghini,
Alfa, any of those and said, do we want...
That's it.
The leashes off, do what you like.
And they can throw I-Falls in the bin, everything.
Everyone can throw their take-hands away.
It'll be like a sort of revolution.
Where everyone's like, you're free now.
It was not throwing things into the forest and letting their take-hands go off.
Go be free in the wild.
We also couldn't do that though because our...
People wouldn't buy it, right?
Because the fuel is so expensive here, comparatively.
I don't know.
It would still work.
People would still prefer...
The C63 is the argument.
Nobody wanted the 470 C63.
We still...
Think about how many C63s, M5s things you see driving around in the UK.
People are still willing to do it.
Also, yes, it feels expensive.
But if you compare your average...
I don't know, hybrid...
This is purely based on my thinking, not by any science.
Okay.
But if you compare sort of...
Your modern day hatchback is some hybrid four-wheel, three-wheel drive, sideways driving.
Yep, exactly right.
But how much more economical is it than what would have been a 1.2-litre Golf or Fiesta or whatever it was?
Because they're still...
They weren't exactly gas guzzlers.
You still got to be 50 plus MPG to produce it.
Small petrol engines are way more efficient.
Even older ones than most people think.
Yes.
So it's like, is it actually going to be that much worse?
But I mean, if they went leashes off, we can make whatever we want.
Oh, yeah.
No, but I mean more like you can...
At the moment, even tiny petrol engines are being strangled.
You have to add a turbo.
You have to have a hybrid system.
You have to have start-stop.
You have to be really, really heavy because you've got all those bits.
But if you just said, now we can start.
I mean, like this...
Well, this is what I'm going to talk about.
Yes, like having little lightweight stuff that you go...
It's actually very simple engineering.
But it's also very economical.
Yeah.
So behind us, if you're an audio listener, you won't have seen this video.
Listeners are confused.
There is a Volkswagen Lupo and it is on Dutch export plates.
Because last week, when is this video?
Ben, they would have seen the video.
You would have seen the video that we wanted to find the most economical car.
So we ended up flying to the Netherlands and buying a Lupo 3L.
Lupo 3L, it means it uses 3 litres of diesel for every 100 kilometres it does.
It translates to about 90 MPG.
I'll be honest.
One of my favourite things we've done at TDC so far is really fun.
And that's because Ben didn't come with.
I didn't know.
Ben was on a very good trip.
I'm stunned by this car.
I love it.
You know what?
I think it's something...
Ben, you can agree or disagree.
Something that Will and I pride ourselves on is not being soppy about cars.
Like we deliberately try not to be like,
Oh, it's so dee dee and cute.
And it's a car at the end of the day.
But there's something about this thing that's just really...
I don't even know what the word...
It's lovable.
I love it.
Now, I don't get it yet.
No, because you don't mean it.
That's what I mean is that, to me, I'm like the audience right now,
who are like, I don't understand.
I wasn't...
I haven't seen the video yet.
It would possibly be quite easy to not understand it.
If you went up for a little drive down the road in it,
you go, why on earth do you like this?
Yeah.
But it's because it's first journey, was it?
Right.
You're being plucked straight out of the Netherlands.
We have no idea what your backstory is.
No idea.
We don't know if you were being used for the last week
or you haven't been used for the last six months.
And you are coming back to England,
whether you like it or not.
With half a million kilometers on it.
And it just went,
Yeah, it's okay.
But it's not like it's a,
Oh, I like this because it's crap.
It is crap in some way.
In some way, but it's more than it.
It's just been surprisingly good at every single thing it's done.
It is.
Ben, on the motorway, silent.
I don't believe it.
It makes no noise.
I don't believe it.
It doesn't rattle.
It doesn't feel unsafe.
I'd say that feels as unsafe or less than the Clio on the motorway.
Yeah.
It's just normal.
It's just a small car.
It doesn't matter what speed you go into a roundabout at.
We've tried this.
It will make no tire squeal.
It will just go around the roundabout.
Now you've all seen the video.
Well, some of you will have seen the video.
We averaged like high 70s.
And that was normal driving.
We drove normally, legally.
Hour and a half of traffic in Antwerp.
Yeah.
So we stood still.
76, 77, something like that.
Filming wrapped around Cobham services, I would say.
So we had a little stretch of room 25 and a load of back roads.
So it was just Edmund and I.
So we said, right.
Now let's put a bit of science into play.
The cameras aren't rolling.
Let's kick this thing's head in.
Allegedly.
And see what it's allegedly.
Let's simulation, you know, in a controlled environment.
We simulated what VMAX would look like.
We did simulate VMAX and we confirmed it.
And I think there's more legs in it.
Someone thinks there's more legs in it.
Theoretically, there are legs in it.
And then there were some back roads.
Absolutely beat the granny out of it.
And then we worked out the MPG when we got back.
And it did 55 MPG.
55 MPG while using like, when I say like track car spec, like revs.
We were revving it all the way out on every change possible.
I'd love to know on track what it would do.
But that's what we may, we may end up trying that.
But so yeah, this car is not going anywhere for the seeable.
I love it.
It's 300,000 miles.
It's ridiculous.
It's quite good.
It just looks okay.
Has a lot of dog in there.
Oh, big dog.
You can see the bumper is big scratched up.
So America right now looking at this thing going, pfft.
We could never.
You need that.
But interesting.
I was just something I thought, I saw and thought, hey man.
But also this got a 76 MPG, but you wouldn't be allowed to make this.
No, no.
They would not be allowed.
There we go.
That's not, that needs to be a tiny petrol.
It needs to be a one liter.
It needs to be a 0.8.
Whether this is actually relatively simple.
It's lightweight and a very, very efficient turbo diesel engine.
And it still does ridiculous MPG.
And it's not ULEZ.
Nope.
Not ULEZ either.
But it will be cheap tax, we think.
Next up is long boy.
Benters.
Yes.
I can't remember where we were going, but we were driving along.
We take good pride in spotting good horses and funeral cars and limos.
And, you know, every now and then you see a new one.
We saw a Mackie.
That was a little bit boring.
We don't want to see that.
But what we saw the other day was a sort of modern, a fairly newest shape.
Bentley flying spur.
Yes.
Is it?
But it wasn't a hearse.
Unfortunately, it wasn't a hearse.
That would have been way cooler.
But it had six doors.
It was a proper extended Bentley flying spur thing.
It was unbelievable.
Now, what's interesting is that I've just put the plate in to a car checker and it says
Bentley Eagle flying spur.
Now, Eagle is a company that makes stretch limos because that's what Johnny Smith and
Richard Paul to have an Eagle Quest, which is the senator, I think, or an Omega lengthened.
So I'm wondering if that's one of them.
If that's a, let me see if I can find it.
But honestly, in my head, I knew about all of them.
Yeah.
I knew what all the, I know all the horses.
I don't know.
I know all the limos.
They're all the same.
They've kind of all been made, but there's, there's more to come.
There are more out there.
And I need to know who's, who goes right.
We need, it's a funeral car.
It's very sad.
But what if it was a Ford GT?
Wow.
That would be interesting.
Oh, so there's a market for it, surely.
Ben, what would you make?
What would you make your cars are?
I would make a Honda Beat.
Oh, big long boy.
But like, it's still only got two seats.
It's just really long.
It would be like the Hammond MG.
Everyone sits in a line.
One seat, one seat per.
Right.
So you have like four seats, but they're in a row.
Even though it's, even though it's wide enough for two.
Well, no, you're sad.
You want to be comfy.
Right.
Is that true?
You don't want to sit with your family.
Is that true when you're, when you're, when you're sad?
Is that what you want most?
Right.
So your mum's in the front.
Trying.
Right.
She's directly in front of you.
So all you can do is tap her on the shoulder.
But you're not on the beat.
There you go.
Listen to this.
There's just wind in your hair.
Massive.
Oh, here we go.
I'm not sure about that one.
I'm a photo.
What would you do?
Look at that.
I don't know what I'd have.
That's cool.
Not at all.
That is cool.
That was some slightly bigger wheels.
I'm assuming it's, it'll be a V8.
Yeah.
V8, yeah.
If he's not in this one, he was in the May back.
On May back.
Sorry.
I imagine like take the middle row out of seats.
I understand this is why it's here and it would sort of.
There's no one like you and there never will be.
Ruin this at the second set of doors, but you have a life flat bed.
Sorry.
I've just, I've just seen this as well.
They've got one of these.
They've got.
Flying spur as well.
That is kind of crazy.
That is, that is a big forehead.
What's next to that?
A, some form of side cut.
That's not a side car.
Hers is it.
That's tough.
You know what?
That's my, the E 55 wagon is my ultimate house.
That's my.
That is a side car with what appears to be a house on the side.
Yeah.
You know what?
If you're a motorbike list.
Sure.
That could be good for you.
It feels odd.
You're already on the bike.
Yeah.
No, you're just kind of like strapped to a bike.
Also never being pulled in a trailer.
That's like you're going to your funeral in a normal car that's just being a normal
car is towing you.
Yeah.
But you're a car enthusiast.
You're happy to be behind.
It's a tully, but it's a lovely.
So yeah, we're just a random thing.
We saw and thought we should talk about this.
I'd have a McGann.
Oh, it's still got, but it's still got the, the, the MP seats.
So you're strapped in with a cushion.
It doesn't even, and it's got a harness as well.
You're not going anywhere.
Yeah.
You are strapped.
So you're not in the coffin.
You're in.
No, no, I wouldn't.
There is no coffin.
Okay.
So like the E 55 where I'm loose makeup that you sat there and I'm sat there.
Now when you say central, central driving position, McLaren F1 style in the back, which
you don't need to extend it that much when you say of Pope spec roof.
Okay.
When you say makeup that what, what, what would you, in your will, would you ask them
to do?
To me.
If I was killed in a gang shooting, no, no, no, you're just, you're just not.
I was died.
Natural causes.
You're going full glam.
Sure.
But at this age, I'm a little bit of extra tan.
Just so people know.
Was he that tan?
Like the sort of Trump spec tan or Clarkson in the advert.
Oh.
Oh.
Teeth.
That's what I like.
Teeth would be great.
And the wildest, like new hair.
Okay.
It's sort of very long and it's obviously died.
Did you look like that?
Yeah.
Enough so that when you go, when they go to your wake, they go, are we at the right?
I sort of my life's best hits.
You're going straight.
It's not how I died.
It's sort of like that's, that might have been what it's like.
It's like a, it's like a sort of artists rendition.
Okay.
Yeah.
It's a render.
Yeah.
This is what it could have looked like.
This could have been your farm.
And like, you know, when people do the, it's like a makeup, a makeup, but, and it's like
unbelievable contours.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'll be there.
You'd be straight up.
No, that's, that could be, that could be us.
Yeah.
That'd be also James playing back looking worryingly like me.
If I did do that.
That's, that's, I reckon.
That's entirely for me.
So you're going turkey teeth.
Yeah.
Straight up piano keys again.
Yep.
Ben, how would they have your, how would you have your makeup at your, I'd be full on.
What's that for the audio listeners?
That's like a, so you'd have your face set in the Riz face.
Yeah.
Almost a pout.
Yeah.
Okay.
Perfect.
But makeup wise, you'd have them.
Right.
Okay.
Maybe I'll, I get my teeth whitened and I probably have.
No tan.
Bit of tan.
I'm quite pale.
Any legs or arms on show?
Well, I tell them tan.
Ben will be in a pencil dress.
Hi everyone.
I'm going, I want to be completely shaven bald and the red lipstick.
That's it.
So anybody that goes there goes, who's that?
I don't know who that is.
Where did you get that body from?
That is not.
That is not.
That's not.
That is not.
That is not my brother.
What are we doing?
Yeah.
It's a great point.
Do you want this to write this?
This is a lot like the preamble that we had, which we were talking about our favorite source.
Cutting a source mentioned now.
Okay.
Tell me what your favorite source is then.
What's your favorite source?
It's gravy.
Gravy is my favorite source.
Is that a source?
Yeah.
That's what I'm saying.
It's, it's something you pour on.
Are you sweet or savoury?
I'm a savoury man through and through.
Sorry guys.
We do go off the rails every so often.
We'll bring it back to Carl's.
Ben, you're up.
Hi.
First bit of news from you.
Here we go.
I'm going to let you prepare for it.
Do you know what it is?
Say it and I'll find out.
Okay.
It's the Land Rover Freelander is bad.
I'm ready for this.
Let me just pull it up.
Everyone has an image.
He's going to pull up on the screen.
Too late, buddy.
It's on the screen.
Right.
The Land Rover Freelander has made a return.
Okay.
That's all I'm saying.
I was trying to stall for you to pull it up.
But it's Chinese.
What that?
What?
So it's a collaboration between Land Rover and a company
called Cherry, but with one.
Cherry.
Yeah.
So it's Land Rover Cherry.
No.
JLR Cherry unveils the Freelander Concept 97.
So it's not a production car.
Is that not who owns JLR?
I don't know.
I thought they were always by...
Geely.
No.
No.
Tata.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
That's the last one I know of.
Is it that one?
It's been 20 years ago.
I don't know.
Is it Tata?
Is it Tata?
Cherry Jaguar Land Rover Automotive Company Limited is an automotive manufacturing company
headquartered in Changsu, China.
A 50-50 joint venture between the UK JLR, itself a subsidiary of Tata Motors of India and Chinese
state-owned automaker Cherry.
Is it Cherry or is it Cherie?
Cherie is better.
It was formed to allow production of Jaguar Land Rover cars in mainland China.
Right.
So the only way they could produce them is by doing a 50-50 with Cherie.
So this is, I guess, their first...
Yo, collab, bro.
Can you do something for me?
What's that then?
Can you zoom in right now on the...
That's a toy car.
Rear quarter.
Rear quarter.
Yes.
Okay.
Now, hold that there.
Now, go on to a new tab.
Oh, God.
And type in a Rolls-Royce Kaliman.
Is that real?
That's an actual thing they've released.
Now, Ben, for audio listeners just for future, if you say the back end of that looks a lot
like a Rolls-Royce Kaliman, that does work too.
Yeah.
I'm about to say that.
But I want you to pull it up so people who are watching can see as well.
Okay.
Because if you get rid of that little like...
Sorry.
Ben confirmed that that is the photo that they've showed, or is that some sort of mad render?
That's the photo.
That's the photo.
That looks like something from Wallace and Gromit.
That does not look real.
That does look like something from...
There you go, Ben.
Now that back end, zoom in on that rear quarter.
Now, Ben, now that you've said that, you know, when you...
If you had have said it to me, I think I would have understood.
But now I think that's a completely different shape.
That doesn't look the same.
That looks similar.
What you see is the tiny little arch.
That car has a wheel arch.
No, not the arch.
It's above that.
It's the bit where it's the...
What would be like the neck?
Here's another one.
That's rough.
So either way...
Why is there wildlife growing in the headlight?
There is.
But I think that's looking forward to what is going to happen.
Oh, it's like this.
Because it's a Land Rover.
They go inevitably there will be mould.
There's going to be moss.
There's going to be mould.
So overall...
So it's a Japanese made...
No, Chinese made...
Chinese only sold?
He doesn't have the information.
Well, it's...
Yes.
Well, I'm just trying to find that information right now.
Oh, just getting this information in fresh from Teri.
Fresh third in.
Here we are.
Anyway, cream news.
You had it here first.
I don't think...
The Freelander is one of the last things...
They haven't specified.
But it's coming in China.
Okay.
Coming soon to a China near you.
I don't think anyone would buy it here.
I don't think so.
Although the Freelander one sold quite well.
Because it kind of looked like a small...
At the end of its life anyway.
It kind of looked like a small Range Rover type thing.
Yeah.
It's a bit more fancy, wasn't it?
It was kind of a pre-loose to the evoke.
Yeah.
That's what it was.
What we got next?
But that's back.
Right.
We're so back.
If someone said the Freelander's back, I just...
I don't...
No one wanted that.
Yeah.
China.
In China.
All yours, buddy.
All yours.
Feel free to keep it.
Next up.
You've put in here auction waffle.
I think we talked about this.
We talked about this.
The...
I would like to know.
Right.
We've worked...
We're potentially going to work with some auction houses soon.
And we've got some ins with buying cars or auctions,
looking at the auctions.
Why do auctions feel the need to give me a Wikipedia page
about the car?
You go to look at a car.
Let's say it's the TVR.
And instead of giving you information, valuable information about the car,
you're looking to buy, which you cannot drive.
You cannot speak to the owner.
You can't do any of that sort of stuff.
It goes, in 1932, Mr. TVR himself was born.
He was born to a small family.
They were hard.
I don't care.
I don't need this.
Don't tell me about the history of the car.
Guess what?
If I'm interested in buying this car, I know about this car.
I didn't need you.
I didn't go.
I fancy a TVR Tuscan.
And they go on the auction page and go, bloody hell, he's got a six-cylinder.
I don't know.
TVR, a British-made company.
It's a British-made company.
Amazing.
And they made them from 1990.
I don't care.
Tell me about this car.
Ask them what the car is like.
I don't know.
Can't speak to the owner.
Can you read it?
I don't even know if it's cotton.
Literally, the auction for that one is this car has been well maintained in its life.
I'm reading through the one.
Enjoy.
I don't know if this is where it came from.
I'm not going to read it out because it would reveal too many things.
But it is like that.
There are.
That is an entire paragraph.
And that's to do with...
None of this so far is about the specific car.
It just says, yeah, it was, you know, the engine traces its lineage back to 1964.
It has a roof height of just 1.2 meters.
It's got the name was from blah, blah, blah.
None of this is about the car.
Then you get to the bottom.
It goes, it'll probably say an exciting opportunity to own a perished something or other.
So that is one of the things that annoys me.
It gets me really angry.
Yeah.
I don't need this.
I know this and no one else who's bidding needs this.
I realized I've been there.
What's that then?
What on what previous job?
This is the thing.
But when we worked together at this job, but when I early on, I was basically doing copyright
stuff, writing auction, would you recall it?
Fluff.
Basically fluff.
And sometimes it is because maybe this is the case sometimes is that they don't have
the information.
So we go, this is a 1999, which is just before the year 2000, which by the way, was the breaking
of the millennium.
Ah, the millennium.
What a time to be alive.
Go away and give me the information about the car I want to buy.
It's a cretin.
Sometimes it feels like it's that.
And there's also this, there's this desire to be like, I have to sell it.
Yeah.
But surely the most of the people looking at a car at an auction, they probably know
what they're looking for.
Also, nothing in that description is going to sell me.
Hold on.
A 1.2 meter roof height.
That's the exact height of my garage.
Absolutely.
It's not like it's not, they almost sell it as if you are a complete random going into
a showroom.
Just going, you go, you go into Ford, you are, you have no idea about cars or what's for
sale.
And you go, right here are my requirements.
And they go, the Ford Focus is a five-door hatchback with a 37-liter boot.
You go, you know what?
That's actually fantastic.
Sounds what I'm looking for.
I'll take it.
If you're going to an auction, you kind of already know what you're looking for.
Yeah.
So it's like, just give me the stuff I really need to know.
Does it have an MOT?
When was it sold in the engine?
Does the engine run then?
What's that mean then?
I would check that.
No.
Auction speash peel.
Fluffy.
A run of the week annoyed me.
Yeah.
If you write those, do them a little bit better.
If you don't have the information, just leave it blank.
Just say it.
Just say it.
I don't know.
Do you know what works really well?
More information to come.
It doesn't matter if it doesn't.
It gets to where the auction starts.
More information to come.
Okay.
Information is about fantastic.
Next up then.
Yeah.
This alarmed me when I saw it.
1998 Honda CBR for sale.
Yeah.
What does this mean?
There's one for sale.
Everyone, can you put the first photo of...
I sent it to you.
Oh, you've sent it to me.
Where's that then?
That's going to be on Slack.
I sent it to you before.
Thanks, man.
No, that's a window into our everyday life, which...
Okay.
You've sent me some other things.
You can show this to me.
Yeah.
Okay.
I can see where it's going.
Are they all showable?
They are.
I'll just show the two that are relevant.
This is fair.
We've already seen a good bit of my face.
Honda CBR is a motorbike.
Correct.
And it's for sale.
And it's for marketplace.
And it's a 1998 one for sale.
When was it made, roughly?
Who designed it?
I don't...
How tall is it?
I don't know.
Now, someone sent me this on Instagram.
Is it an exciting opportunity to get yourself a sum of...
Bit of fun.
To get yourself straddled over the tank of a CBR?
Here we go.
That's a fantastic-looking motorcycle.
That is absolutely definitely a motorcycle.
That is one of the best.
So, that's the last...
Well, that appears to be...
Hold on.
That's the last photo in the...
In the whole...
What's called?
That's just a photo of it.
That was a nice one.
Well, I mean, I thought...
So, you can see on the listing, this is the last photo.
Right?
You've scrolled through all late.
Yeah.
Well, that is a good representation of the motorcycle.
I'd expect that one first.
Yeah.
So, this is the first one.
Okay.
That's a duck.
Not only that, it's a duckling.
It's a duckling taken from a high angle.
He has the high ground in that photo.
But it's been slashed in price.
That's a cheap one.
Yeah.
It actually looks like he's verbally abused that duckling.
Yeah.
It looks quite sad.
Has...
Did anyone know the price of ducks?
Is that cheap for a duck?
12.75.
I'd say that's pretty expensive for a duck.
But it was 14.50.
Well, it's down.
Yeah.
It's down.
So, do you get it with the bike?
Is that...
I don't know.
Could that be negotiated in?
But it says it's in Cornwall.
Okay.
Is it false advertising if you don't get it?
Therefore, it probably is a duck.
Are they native to Cornwall?
I feel like it's sort of thing they'd have in Cornwall.
I feel like that's not.
I think that's too beachy for a duck.
Ducks love beaches.
I think they famously love ponds.
Ducks are a sort of...
They're not city birds, are they?
You see ducks by the beach all the time.
Do you?
I can't recall the last time I've seen a duck by the beach.
I've seen a duck by the beach.
Ben is confusing it with possibly a seagull.
Yeah.
I think that I would agree.
That seagull.
That duck is massive.
Look at that bloody white big duck.
That massive white duck just stole that guy's chips.
Ben's seeing any bird probably.
That's a duck, isn't it?
Well, it certainly changes, you know.
It's a condor.
I didn't know a duck would look like that.
Any other photos in there?
No, just a duck and some...
It is mostly bike, but there is a duck in there.
Lovely.
What kind of duck is that?
That's the first photo.
Yeah.
That's my biggest issue.
That's the one that would stop you from scrolling.
What's alarming here is if it was...
He's just listed it, or she, whoever this is.
The person has just listed it.
And you go, oh, bloody...
It happens that my duck photography has accidentally gone out on Facebook.
Of course.
But he's reduced the price.
He's been in there.
He's seen the thumbnail and gone.
That's my duck for sale.
Also, he's reduced the price because he's gone, I haven't had any.
No one's interested.
Why is nobody interested in my great advice?
The description says, Honda Super Blackbird for sale.
No, it's not.
It's a gray bird.
Yeah, okay.
But we're getting close.
Right, okay.
Is it like a fur of a crow or something?
I still don't think it beats the curry.
No, not at all.
That was the one with the eggs in it.
The eggs in my favorite.
That was fantastic.
And then the bonbons as well.
I think what we should probably do at some point in a podcast in the near future, possibly
this year, is we will collate them all.
Yes.
Go through them and just get all the best ones.
Some of you guys have sent us some that we haven't talked about.
Yeah.
And they are elite level.
They really are.
Some of them are actual pictures of possibly family members.
We don't have to blur it, but it's funny.
A lot of them are mostly just Ben.
Tomorrow morning is knocking.
Stock your fridge now.
How about a creamy mocha frappuccino drink or a sweet vanilla?
Smooth caramel, maybe.
Or a white chocolate mocha.
Whichever you choose, delicious coffee awaits.
Find Starbucks Frappuccino drinks wherever you buy your groceries.
Trying to sell things before we got there.
Next up.
Yeah, we have Ben's video idea.
Saw this then.
Now, we will recall that two or three weeks ago, we had talked about a video that both
Will and I wanted to do and that we each knew what it was.
We weren't telling each other, but we had kind of worked out it was the same idea.
Ben didn't know.
Ben had to...
We didn't ask last week.
Ben, you have one chance to just come up with an idea and we will tell you whether it is or not.
I think it is a car that you both...
No.
Whoa.
Specifics, please.
I don't know.
Otherwise, you can go...
I think it's a video we'll film on cars.
Wait, let me just say it, then you can ask about the car.
No.
I think it's a car.
No.
If it gets it right, we have to say.
If it's like bang on, bang on.
Okay.
Which is why it has to be specific.
It is a car you both want to drive.
I'm not listening any further.
It's a McLaren F1.
Okay.
It's there.
I get to decide which one of you gets to drive it.
No.
Wrong.
Will said no.
Am I close at all?
I can't tell you that at all.
That defeats the entire purpose of the game.
I'm blind.
You just know a guess.
Next week, you'll be back with a new video idea.
I think I was going to have a video idea though.
I think the thing is that I don't think it's terrible.
I love that.
That would be quite nice.
I know that only one of you gets to drive it and the other one cannot drive it.
Okay.
Wow.
That's actually quite cruel.
That's why I'm involved because I have to choose.
That's my idea.
You're not involved.
Wow.
Terrible.
You can be involved.
I don't understand now.
That's made it even worse for me.
Ben, take another week to think about it, mate.
Wait, but what?
There's no way.
We'll take no more questions.
We will take no more questions.
How can it be the same idea?
Debt cut, Ben's mic off here.
We'll.
We want to talk about today.
Edwin, you said here, big man like MG.
That's the big man like MG.
It doesn't matter because Debt's cut your mic.
It's mostly us that people can hear.
It'll be completely fine to carry on.
You're simply a distant echo at this stage.
So anyway...
How is it the same video idea?
How is it the same idea from both of you?
I will say that.
There is a technicality there.
It's not the same video.
We know it's roughly the core video, but there are differences.
So perhaps you get to...
How would you go about this?
Perhaps we get a guess each.
As in one of us could confirm whether it's our idea.
But it might not be.
It's not mine either.
So you're still at the same stage that you were.
I would like to talk about a Chinese car.
Is it the Land Rover Freelander?
It's not.
It's just been released.
It's an MG.
No, but this is...
It's not interesting.
So let's move on.
No.
It's called an IM NS9 MG.
Oh, so affectionately named.
Exactly.
I'm going to pull up a photo of it.
It's like a van thing.
The reason I got so many is because it said it can do 1600 km of something.
I love a Kia.
But what it does have...
There are two weird things about it.
I got...
One of the things I got served about it was like it can fit 44 luggages in it.
And I was like, that's kind of interesting.
And then it cut to a shot and they just filled the whole interior to the brakes.
I don't think the driver's seat, but the entire back end of the car...
That's not how that works.
Also, not a selling point because no one does that.
You can't do that.
You can't say.
That's like me saying in a convertible...
Mate, you could fit anything in this.
A skyscraper going about.
Honestly, as long as the suspension can handle it.
If the boot can't just take 44 luggages as they are, that's not how that works.
So it just seats down like floor to ceiling.
It's floor to ceiling full.
So in that case then, what one or two people could be in that car?
Well, a driver at least.
So that is implying that one person is bringing 44 bags a holiday.
Putting stuff in the passenger seat would be dangerous.
And you can't see how to win though.
It's true.
So two people are taking 22 bags each.
That doesn't make any sense.
Big holiday.
Like a huge holiday.
Moving away type level.
Sort of like a nuclear disaster movie.
Everyone's fleeing town type.
But you've got 600 kilometres of range so you can get away.
Now, I'm seeing something else.
What's that then?
The monoblocks.
The vision ahead.
Oh, the wheels.
I thought you were going to talk about that.
No, the wheels, yeah.
They're looking like...
So this car is out.
I think it's November this car came out.
But it has something.
I'm going to show you a photo.
Right.
We talked in a previous episode about new options.
New optional extras.
Sure.
About the best class.
I think it was.
You mustn't laugh.
A shower.
That's a shower.
Can you zoom in?
Yeah, that is an option.
Why?
What do you want to see?
People can see it.
Who are watching.
That is a shower that is an optional extra.
He has stepped out of there drawing himself in quite an interesting fashion, fully closed.
Now, supposedly...
His hair looks quite dry in this distance.
I had a quick look up online that said,
Critics of question the practicality of these features.
Some point out that a 10-liter water tank is too small for a full shower.
What?
We're talking about cars, man.
What we're talking about.
It has a 10-liter water tank.
A 10-liter shower.
And surely that's not in place.
That's not as well as 75 luggages.
No, that can't be.
But do you know what it does have?
Underfloor heating.
No, I think we actually talked about that at some point, but it has underfloor heating.
What use is that?
It's a wooden floor.
I think it is.
Look, I'll show you a photo here.
It's a saw.
Look at that.
There you go.
Oh, wow.
It's supposed to be like one of those kind of a little bit luxury big seats in the back,
lazy boy type thing.
And it's got a line there on it.
Now, I listen to...
Go down being cute, get yourself some new flooring for it.
I listen to a Doug Demiro podcast the other day.
Fratimizing with the enemy.
He was not wearing shoes.
I listened to that the other day and he said, he made a point saying that...
Well, that's how they get there, isn't it?
Yeah.
So this is what the car looks like.
Completely flat.
If you put all the seats fully flat, that's what it looks like.
I guess it's them trying to show off the interior.
Also, it has just maybe a 42 inch screen.
Just a quite a big TV just in the back, kind of BMW 7 series style, but the traditional
shape of a TV, which means people in the back not saying what's out the windscreen.
That's good.
Doug Demiro was talking, he was saying...
And I want to listen to it.
I didn't agree with this at all.
But he was saying, basically, in the future, what are cars being marketed on?
What options are there?
And he said, well, they're going to become self-driving.
So the sky's the limit.
It could be a fish tank.
It could be a cinema.
It could be this.
It could be that.
And we're already seeing it happen.
Because they're marketing that car on underfloor heating and a shower.
Yeah.
And people go, I want that car.
I want that car.
But you have to think about that's how they're being marketed.
But what do people actually want and need?
Well, in that case, food, water and shelter.
Ever.
Ben's cracked it.
Have you ever actually thought while driving, it would be perfect if I could pull over and
have a shower?
I bet you Ben has.
But have you ever been, even if you had that thought, prepared to have a shower?
I've got my towel on my head.
You have no shower.
So why would you be prepared?
It's true.
That's a good point.
That's like me coming to work today with my wash gear.
So you would have a shower and put it in the car and you go, I will have a shower kit.
Would you do that?
Would you pull over at the side of the M4?
Just was a quick shower.
What I would do though, is when I have like a big couple of days here, I would stay here
in my car and then the more I could get fresh.
Okay.
You'd sleep in that car.
I'd sleep in the car.
I don't think you'd do that.
In that car, look how flat the seats went.
Not, yeah.
I just, that's what, it's still, the car is still a private transportation device.
Like, like first, foremost and, and almost solely in terms of, would you then say that
the airplanes that have those crazy things where they have showers and lie down beds
and stuff is not worth it?
Because if you're not driving, if it's self-driving, it's the same thing as a plane.
I guess that's true.
And I have a two hour commute, so I would have a nap.
What would you do?
Two hours?
In a self-driving car?
You can't shower when you're in the car though.
No, it's out the boot.
So you get, it has to stop.
You have to stop.
Okay.
I would have a shower then.
I would have a light flat bed.
You'd have a full...
Like tonight after the podcast, what time is it?
What time do I run out?
Almost eight o'clock.
Almost eight o'clock.
So by the time I get home tonight, it's going to be probably half past ten.
Right?
Get a couple of hours in beforehand.
A couple of hours.
Is there a sleep before you get in the car?
No, get in the car, two hours of sleep.
All I've got to do is get home.
The car parks on the driveway.
Walk out of the car, into the house, into the bed, sleep.
Here's my question for you.
Right.
You do that.
Get in the car.
Go to sleep.
A couple of hours.
Wake up.
Realize you forgot to set it for home.
You're still here.
I'm in Inverness.
No, you're just asleep here.
You have to do the two of charge.
It's in the middle of the M4.
I have a con stage.
So you have perhaps a driver.
Like a flight attendant when you go on a long haul flight.
Right.
And they're just there.
Would you like breakfast?
Yeah.
They're there.
Do you want me to wait for you?
Yeah.
Do you want me to wait for breakfast?
I'm not a flight attendant.
And then they awkwardly tap you and go breakfast time.
Excuse me, sir.
Yeah.
And then they pull up the window and it's all bright outside.
Amazing.
I think what we're just getting into now is just what rich people have,
which is a driver.
Yeah.
So Ben, I'd have a sink.
Okay.
For what?
For washing your hands.
Wash your hands for two hours.
Sometimes my hands feel a bit grubby in the car.
Why is that then?
I don't know.
I don't like it.
But they were clean at the beginning of the trip.
No, I'm with you.
I think it's steering wheel grub.
Okay.
Clean steering wheel grub.
I can solve that.
You know, but then you have to keep cleaning the steering wheel.
Whereas if I had a sink and like some...
So you never need to clean the sink?
No.
No, that would be a serviceable item.
No, it's a great point because who's going to clean the shower and sink?
Well, it's a serviceable item.
No, it has to hire cleaners.
Normal people clean their own showers, Ben.
No, I...
Who will clean my shower?
No, I know that.
But what I'm saying is that, like, in a car that fancy,
you're not going to clean your own shower.
Well, it's not.
It's very affordable.
How much?
I don't know.
I didn't check it.
Here's what I'd have.
I was going to say bidet.
I'm going to spend two hours washing yourself.
But I've dialed the back from there because I realized there's, you know,
he's not really going to use that.
But a toilet.
Toilet.
One on Japanese toilets that spray you.
A toilet in the car that actually had an effective place to store it.
You know, with the batteries in an electric car.
Exactly.
In the floor.
Look, it would work.
If you're doing long journeys,
the amount of time that would save.
Just pissing straight into the seat.
You can do that now.
It's just not all get stored in the foam.
God.
Just imagine a hole.
And I think it...
I don't think it could function like a normal toilet.
Because I think it would smell.
I don't want it to smell like a...
I don't want my car to smell like a services.
I just have that, like, a lemony, cleaner smell.
But I didn't believe that that would be you that would course that.
Because the services smell is always caused by other people.
I don't think that's true at all.
So you're telling me that you've stuck up a services before?
No, but I think that...
I think you're disregarding yourself completely from the situation,
which I don't think is fair.
You're saying, I don't smell my shit those things.
Yeah.
No, well, I wouldn't poop in the car.
An outcast has something to say about that.
I wouldn't poop in the car.
How do you want?
Pooing in the car is...
I didn't think of that.
I was purely thinking of piss.
How are we going to get back to this?
Doing that in the car only is concentration.
Quite compromised.
You do have your attempt, but you do have a steering wheel to hold on to.
Which would be welcome, actually.
No, you're not driving, you're self-driving.
Get pulled over.
I care that.
So one's and two's difficult in the car.
Because you need to be wearing a skirt.
Or an arseless trouser.
I love the idea that a policeman pulls you over,
walks up the window, knocks on it,
and all they hear is a fucking noise.
You knock on it and you go, one minute, someone's in here.
Also buying a used car.
Has that been cleaned?
Has that system been cleaned?
Please tell me that's been cleaned.
I wouldn't want it to be part of my seat, though.
It has to be a separate thing.
I would want to have you walk to the back
and then walk to a toilet in the back and sit down.
So basically like an RV is what you're essentially saying.
Like a cubicle for you to go to.
Yeah, but bigger than that.
Because that's like, you know, poop in a cupboard.
Famously hard.
Right, let's move on before we lose all of the listeners.
What have we got next?
Oh, here we go.
R36 GTR, you say, Benjamin.
They have confirmed it.
It's confirmed.
It's an early development.
Now tell me about it.
It will be a hybrid.
Okay, that's fine.
That's fine.
You know what?
I'm okay with it.
No one knows anything because all they've said is we might make this.
Hold on, Mike.
You said it's confirmed.
Sorry.
We have confirmed that we might make this.
We've confirmed.
We'll think about it.
So it's an all new hybridized platform.
All new.
So VR38 gone.
So in the very early stages, that's a quote.
Early stages.
And a very rough timeline is going to be possibly 2028.
At the earliest, you'd see something.
But they've had time.
Yeah.
But it's like GT86.
That would be 20 years.
That's like GT86.
Everyone thought they were making it since 2013.
They haven't been making it apparently.
No, no, no, because they were doing Red Dead Redemption.
They had other stuff.
Yeah, they were doing the Kashkai.
No, no, that doesn't work.
It doesn't work like that.
What were you working on?
Oh, the R35.
Yeah.
I don't know, but I know.
But like, what were you doing about R36?
Those lightning bolt lights, mate.
They took a while.
Well, you know, we had to do the R35 again, didn't we?
We had to keep doing the R35.
What have you got on tomorrow?
I've got R35.
Yeah, but if you always work with no break,
you'll get burnt out.
It's true. That's it.
Nissan burnt out.
Nissan got burnt out.
I don't feel excited about it.
Why?
I think...
I just don't.
If it can do...
Now, I actually think this.
The Skyline and GTR have always been very good at being
related evolution-wise to each other, looks-wise,
in a good way.
Not in a 911 way, which is a little bit different.
They go, let's make it look boxy like a Hakusuka.
Let's make it...
If they can make it the best hits,
but not make it a tribute act.
Wow.
That's a...
Yeah.
And you think they will?
I think they could do it.
I think it will look completely different.
I think that as well.
Because the R35 was quite...
I guess maybe because they went with a different engine and stuff.
It has element, the rear lights and a couple of design elements.
The front end is very R34.
The front end with the lights, they're completely different.
The lights are different, but his grille is R34 GTR.
Yeah.
So if there is some sort of...
Because I wonder as well, if they look at the obsession now
with R32, 3 and 4 and go, we need to cash in on this.
Do we make it retro style like a 34?
Yeah, I think that would be a mistake.
I kind of think so too, but I kind of like how it looked
if it looks like some of the renders I've seen.
Some of the renders I've seen is cool.
But it looks like an R35 that someone's tried to make look like a 4.
I don't even think...
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They know, yeah.
I'd hope that they have some sort of idea.
I bet they'd have some early sketches,
but I don't think they'd have it nailed down.
Also, when you're planning that far ahead,
how much can change in that time where they go,
oh, actually, we'll go to the V6.
When they were thinking about it maybe 10 years ago,
they might go, well, we'll put the VR308 again.
And then emissions and blah, blah, blah.
I think I'll actually, we can't do that.
What engine is it going to have?
Sell it in America and make it a V50.
Can I have what engine is it going to have?
What are they going to do?
They don't have.
They're going to have to make...
You said it's going to be an all-new platform,
so they're going to make a new engine for it.
Which is good. I like that.
That's going to be cool.
But if they come out and say this is going to be a four-cylinder
with a hybrid or it's some tiny V6 or something.
It has to be...
Well, it has to be a six-cylinder really.
It has to be.
That is...
I know that the early V8.
Hey, it could be cool.
I don't think it should be.
Because the GTR over it's like with R35,
over it's life got more and more expensive.
It started out as like, I think it was a V50K,
which with inflation is probably still quite expensive.
But it was like, this thing is ridiculously capable.
But it's 911 Turbo fast for a fraction of the price.
But then as it got older and it's like adding more stuff,
it actually got quite expensive.
And it was essentially 100 grand plus car at that point.
So they're going to kind of be re-entering at that level.
It's going to be like when the NSX came out again.
And it's going to be like, this is almost a super car.
Whereas it's hard for them now to go back
and make it a skyline GTR again.
So I looked at...
I saw another thing about it, which isn't confirmed,
but this could be fabrication.
Apparently, they want to price it like below super car level.
So similar to what it is now.
So whatever 100 grand was 5 or 6, 7, 8 years ago.
So probably cool.
It's going to be comparable to a 911.
That's what it kind of...
It kind of needs to do the same thing again.
It needs to be comparable in performance
to whatever the 911 Turbo is.
But that's going to be tough at less of a price.
But it's not that...
The R35 managed it pretty well.
But the interior is not as nice
and it doesn't look as luxurious or whatever else.
I wonder if they then use that.
The hybrid is a crutch then for that to be like,
that's why it's 0 to 16, 2.1.
Then that means they don't have to try as hard on the engine.
Because they're like, I would just let the hybrid
pick up all of the engine, please.
Hand built by some thoughtful fellows, please.
Be nice.
That's what...
But I'm just not excited about it
because no new car excites me.
And I think the GTRs have been made.
But that's the best way to be.
If there's no hype, you can be pleasantly surprised.
Whereas if you're not, you'll go, yeah, I thought so.
That's cool.
It's like that new Toyota thing.
I feel...
What I do kind of like the idea of is the...
I think it was this week.
Maybe we'll talk about it next week.
They have now confirmed the four-cylinder 2.0L
that makes 400 and something horsepower
for their new sports cars.
So that'll be MR2, Celica.
No Toyota have.
Yeah.
So they've said 2.0L
making 400 horsepower from the factory.
That's cool.
That's cool.
We're coming like EVO spec.
That's cool.
That's what we need.
More of that stuff.
Do some cool things.
Do things.
Please do try things.
What we got next?
We have...
This is a car podcast.
Edwin has asked to talk about a Ralph Lauren advert.
I have.
And I'm going to pull it up here.
For the audio listeners, we'll do an explanation.
Will, I'm pulling up the video here.
Here we go.
Will, can you narrate live?
Yeah.
That is a blue sky with a sort of YouTube thumbnail spec.
Green grass, a bit of blue sky, a bit of sea as well.
Perhaps it's Microsoft XP background.
Yeah, pretty much.
But a little bit less.
Playing it for you now.
That was a...
What was that?
Bloody hell.
That was a rough...
Is it a CTR or something?
Correct.
I think it's a CTR3, which is the Carrera GT looking, but not...
It's based on a 911 still.
It's like their own super car type.
In just a Ralph Lauren advert.
I got served it on YouTube.
It was a pre-roll ad.
I clicked on it and I was...
As I was clicking skip, I...
As I clicked skip, it flashed in half a frame and I went...
What?
How did that come to be?
That's my question.
So it is a Ralph Lauren ad for fancy rich people wearing fancy rich clothes.
But there is a roof doing like a transition, like it transitions behind them.
But who went...
Yo, you know what you should do?
You should get a CTR3.
What's going on?
Who's thought of that?
I was like, I don't know how...
What numbers here?
They're not very common.
No, not at all.
Let's have a look.
How many built there are?
So that's...
It's like seven.
Again, it's more likely to see a McLaren F1.
37 total.
30 normal ones and then seven in club sport specification.
Where did that come from?
Is it his?
Expensive.
Is he dead?
No, I think he's still alive and he does have an incredible car collection.
This is.
It could very well be.
But that's just a weird request.
They go, we need a car for this.
And he goes, well, the roof's available.
Maybe he said...
Go on then.
There we go.
This is...
What they actually said was, I've got a red Porsche.
Just go down to the garage.
Yeah.
It'd just be that one there.
And what he was actually talking about was like a 997 cab.
Yeah.
And then he went, oh, that one looks good.
We'll take that.
Must be nice.
AI, Google AI says prices from one to 1.5 at the moment.
Right.
There's one listed at 900,000 pounds right now.
Supposedly.
Someone was trying to get that one written off on the business.
Use it on that.
Flash it.
Flash it by.
Yeah.
That as well.
I've not seen that.
That's silly.
I thought that it would be a good question for the creators.
What's the most unexpected car in advert?
I remember there was a...
It was either Confuse.com or Go Compare.
They rolled an E28.
Like mashed up an E28.
And I remember being like, why?
Why this?
There's no need for that.
It's what I want to know.
Where are they coming from?
Obviously there's someone is sourcing them.
There's an agency or something.
Right.
That's the one we need to check.
Is there a reason for it?
Or was it totally random?
Was that completely random?
Or is there...
Was there someone who liked cars in the crew and went,
We'll take the rough.
I'll get you something.
They just saw the list and went,
I have to do clothes every day.
Someone said, oh, there's a rough CTR.
What's a rough?
And they went, let me get that.
I'll drive it.
Next up, Antarctica man.
There is a man from Antarctica.
World's coldest superhero.
Let me pull up the email.
Creamer of the week goes to Joe.
I'm not going to say your last name in case you'd like it.
Not said Joe.
Yep.
Not our editor Joe.
Morning chaps.
Happy Easter to those that celebrate.
A big fan of the big fan since the early creamerings.
I thought I'd just put an email together saying,
I am listening in Antarctica at the Rothera research station
during a very bad snowstorm.
Just thought I'd let you know you've reached the seventh continent picture attached
of my project vehicle down here.
And then he is attached a JCB digger that is scooping snow.
Shout out Joe.
That's a wild one.
That's a crazy one.
Now, does that mean that we've touched all continents?
You have?
What does that mean?
I don't know.
That's up to you.
That's for your voices.
Your voice has reached every continent.
We've echoed down to Antarctica.
Penguins have heard us.
Potentially.
Would you have to hang out with him?
How loud was he playing the podcast?
Could be out on some speakers.
Entirely possible.
Maybe he's sat there in the snow.
Don't know how cold it gets, I assume, quite.
That's possibly the coldest screaming.
Oh, yeah.
By far.
That's ice cream.
But then again, wow, if he's inside the research center,
could be hot.
I would still say there's probably an overbearing chill
to the whole kind of operation.
Do you think?
I think inside it's probably almost too hot at times.
I wouldn't say so.
It's designed to be here.
Joe, Joe, can you email us again and tell us how hot it is inside your...
Again, this is how we communicate with the viewers.
Only through you else.
Their response is only through this.
And did any penguins or polar bears hear?
Okay.
I'm likely on the polar bears, I'm going to say.
And if we've had anyone else who's had a remote screaming?
Yes.
And I don't mean like if you're thinking,
oh, I went to Xantia and listened to it.
No.
That's not remote.
Commons of the world.
Look at this as an example.
This is the benchmark.
I'm not saying you need to exceed it.
If you can.
I don't think you can.
But I'm on the moon.
Artemis 2.
I doubt it.
No.
I think I like it.
Well, they had some clever folk listening.
They had 40 minutes.
Bridget Polter listens, don't you know?
They had 40 minutes when they went behind the dark side of the moon.
And they couldn't communicate with Earth.
So they needed something to...
They had the cream podcast going.
They downloaded on Spotify.
Lovely.
Lovely.
I love that.
I love that.
In space, that would be amazing.
In space.
No one can hear you cream.
Lovely.
I knew it was coming.
Very good.
Apart from the people in the spacecraft.
Yeah.
We're listening, definitely.
Yeah.
You don't want to listen to it.
Because we're talking about pissing into a castle.
Is it...
This one's about urinals, is it?
Fantastic.
I'm going to talk about very quickly.
Because I know not all creamers are gamers.
And not all gamers are creamers.
Behind us playing on the TV is Forza Horizon 6 pre-release footage.
This is from Game Riot.
Shout out Game Riot.
They've got a video up of some gameplay of it.
That's what's playing in the background.
It's not far away now.
End of May, right?
Sure.
Sure.
I think it's the middle of May.
Oh, middle of May.
But cool.
Thoughts?
I'm going to be honest.
It looks a lot like the other ones.
It does.
It really does.
It doesn't have a...
If you look at Horizon 1 and Horizon 2, and a little bit of Horizon 3, they each have a
visible vibe.
It's different.
If you told me this was Horizon 4 or 5 or 6, I wouldn't know.
It's 6.
Thank you.
That's appreciated.
But by the time this comes out, you'll be a little bit closer, and maybe there will be
more footage.
But this is new to us today.
The miles per hour, though, on the speed at the bottom, different font.
No way.
Different font.
That's different.
I was playing Forza Horizon 5 the other day, and it's different font.
It took a couple of years to make.
Have the best car games been made?
I think so.
This is old man's spec stuff again.
But I think that's also true.
I believe so.
I think that's true.
And I also believe part of that is because graphics, the gulf between real life and graphics
is getting smaller and smaller, which means you can't evolve it that much more.
But then this doesn't look any different to Forza Horizon 5 graphics-wise.
That's what I'm saying.
That's my point.
That's why it will always, inherently, look, feel similar.
Whereas if you go ahead and you play Need for Speed most wanted, and then you play Pro
Street.
That's fair.
You can see there's a jump.
It looks better.
And then it looks better and better.
So it feels different.
Whereas that feels the same.
It still doesn't look real.
Like I'm not saying I'm not impressed by it.
It looks good, but it doesn't...
I wouldn't look at that and go,
That's a video.
Well, how would you know?
Because how often are you driving in third person?
Regularly.
Wouldn't I mean like trees and ground and lighting?
Okay.
Doesn't that look pretty real?
If you show that to my dad, he'd go,
I'm sure that's how you're rendering in.
You can see, right?
That's what it looks like.
But yeah.
So forza six, we will monitor your career and we'll play it.
Yes, we will.
We'll give it a go.
Surely.
We'll have a look.
Next up, we have the car influencer bullshit game.
Yes.
We look, we know we're car influencers.
We know better than any of the rest.
But we do like this trend where you see it on Instagram a lot.
The most mundane shit car on earth will be told that it actually has.
There's actually a reason why we're all missing out.
It's all the thinking man's car.
So we've come up with a game.
I'm going to say a car.
Will, you have to give me the intro to why this car is actually not mundane and shit.
Okay.
It's actually very special.
I would like please a completely standard.
Okay.
Of course.
Base model.
Ford Ka.
Oh, so gone.
Of which generation?
First generation.
Well, you know what?
Actually, actually quite a good car.
That doesn't sound like an intro to others.
Let me say if it was me, I want the sport car because you would, wouldn't you?
No, but this is an intro.
I need an intro to one of these videos.
Go.
The sport car, which is how you say it.
By the way, my knee is bent and my leg foot is on the tire.
Okay.
I'm narrating.
I forget what the name is.
I'm giving Matt.
What?
Can't remember his name.
Woodford.
It's like a little bug.
You want to squash it.
You really, really do.
But realistically, you want to let it into your home and let it into your heart.
Because this is the car to go for.
What?
You may want the...
Shut the f...
No, I'm not commenting.
That's part of the video.
I'm only commenting.
No, no.
This is the 90s.
You can't comment.
You can't comment.
No, no.
Hold on.
The Ford Ka is the thinking man's sport Ka.
Oh, okay.
I like that.
This is my start.
I like this.
Do we know the thinking man?
Does anyone know that he knows who the thinking man is?
Who is the thinker?
Who is this thinker?
Anyway, I'll tell you why it's the thinking man's Ka.
It might be slower.
Yeah.
Shitter to look at.
Yeah.
Shitter inside.
No options.
Yeah.
And really quite rusty now as well.
But it is the thinking man's sport Ka.
You don't want the fast one.
You don't want the good one.
You don't want leather seats.
You don't want heated seats.
You want pure basic.
You just want to live life as if you were a caveman.
Think back.
Think back to when you were a caveman and you were at your basics,
eating leaves, bugs, trees, wood.
That's all you need.
You don't need steak.
You don't need suits.
You don't need cream.
All you need are the basics in life.
And that is what the Ford Ka does for us, the car.
Ford car.
That's how you pronounce it.
Lovely.
I like that one.
Ben.
Mine's gonna be...
Will, can you give one to Ben?
Oh, you're gonna give me a car?
Oh, God.
Yeah.
We're just gonna come up with the car on spot.
I'm thinking about that basic car.
You're thinking about how this game works.
Go on.
It doesn't have to be basic.
It can be anything.
Go on.
I'm gonna give you...
Ooh.
Ooh.
Ooh.
Ooh.
I'm gonna give you a sort of...
A Land Rover Freelander.
Ooh.
The early 2000s, mid 2000s.
Got it.
Got it.
Easy.
Right.
I'm gonna start off with a front three quarter shot.
Okay.
I mean, we're gonna...
I'm gonna arrive into frame somehow.
Either I'm gonna drive in.
Okay.
And do quite a big stop.
Or I'm going to pop out from behind.
Mm-hmm.
Or I'm gonna pop into frame.
One of those.
Can we do one more thing to mine?
Yeah.
My final shot will be delivered looking into a mirror.
Oh.
But the sort of...
I like that.
But the sort of curved mirror.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I like that.
I like that.
Right.
So start my film.
It drives in.
It drives in with the window open.
Quite a hard stop for some reason.
And I'm gonna pitch a question.
Oh, I like that.
Because the question is hooks you in.
I'm gonna say, is this really the car that people in Chelsea and Kensington should have
been driving around in?
I love it.
So...
I feel this one.
I'm investing.
Yeah.
I'm investing.
And then I'll talk about some spiel about...
I'm not gonna do the exact wording.
No, no, you need the exact wording.
That's the game.
I'm gonna say...
I'm gonna say, while in the 90s...
Well, no.
Sorry.
Start again.
In the 2000s, while you were all driving around in your L322s and this and this thinking
you're better, the humble man bought the Freelander.
Very good.
And you've actually got this to a T.
And while pulling up at your local Kensington pub would not have been as flashy, you certainly
would have done it with more value in your pocket.
Lovely.
And then we would have gone into some...
Perhaps you could have made a comparison to what the man was wearing.
Yes.
It's much like flash Rolex.
You've been wearing a Casio.
Or perhaps you weren't wearing a wash tool.
Do you know what it was?
While everyone else is sipping on their 10-pound pints with their Rolexes, you have a humble
seiko and a glass of water.
Very nice.
And would you say that maybe because it's the thinking man's Land Rover?
It's the thinking man's Land Rover and no one has done a proper review on it yet, except
for me.
Lovely.
I like it.
I'm a fan.
Do you see the game works?
It's good.
Sure, please.
What's a good car?
What's a good car?
What's a really normal...
I know this.
A 2003 black Golf 1.6 FSI.
An FSI?
Not...
Not a match.
Not a match.
Not a 16-valve.
FSI is the engine, I thought.
Yes, correct.
They didn't do the FSI in the Maxwell Golf.
Okay, fine.
A match.
Okay, literally my first car.
Yeah.
Okay, I'm opening with...
It's going to be a quite hard shot to pull this off, but it's...
I'm on a bridge.
K-Pop Demon Hunter's Haja Boys breakfast meal and Huntrix meal have just dropped at McDonald's.
They're calling this a battle for the fans.
What do you say to that, Rumi?
It's not a battle.
So glad the Haja Boys could take breakfast and give our meal the rest of the day.
It is an honor to share.
No, it's our honor.
It is our larger honor.
No, really.
Stop.
You can really feel the respect in this battle.
Pick a meal to pick a side.
Ba-da-ba-ba-ba-ba.
Hey, participating McDonald's was supplies last.
No, no, no, no.
Right, the shot is on a bridge looking down at traffic, right?
And I'm in the match and it's a kind of long zooming shot.
This is a bit more top gear than it is, you know, influencer.
And it cuts to me in the car.
And I go, what's different from me to any of these other cars in traffic?
In principle, nothing, because we're all just in a basic hatchback.
But what they aren't in is the best-selling Volkswagen of all time.
You see, the Mark IV Golf is important because it meant more than a car to most people.
It was mobility.
It was getting you to that first gig.
It was going to the pub with your mates.
Volkswagen.
These cars represent not just value when they were new,
but now incredible value in the used car market.
Because this isn't just a car.
This is a choice of a lifestyle.
Wow, I like that.
It was deep.
It was thoughtful.
And more importantly, I learned absolutely nothing from it.
Now, I was going to accuse you of prepping that beforehand,
because we just gave it the car.
No, I promise you it's not.
It's a little tight in there as well.
You could say, the Volkswagen Golf, the perfect match.
I'll come out of it feeling a little bit like I've been patronised.
Yes, but also I'll feel warm.
Yeah, you'll feel like it's actually kind of...
Maybe I do need a golf match.
And then you'll go, no, I won't have another car.
Now, there are no direct shots at anyone here.
This is just something we laugh about a lot.
Also, we are clowns on YouTube as well.
Absolutely.
We're not better than any of us.
You can make fun of what we do all the time.
Feel free.
We are the same. Try your best.
You can't offend us.
We're looking at crusty cars and making fart jokes.
And piss jokes.
But it is, I love it.
I love the influence, the ability to make any car
somehow the most important car of our generation.
It's amazing.
Yep.
And then get paid by sort of EV company and say,
that is actually amazing compared to that.
The JQ7.
Honestly, mate.
Honestly.
The hour I spoke about last week,
the greatest car man has ever built.
Easily outweighed by the JQ7.
Easily outweighed by my feet.
Thank you very much.
Hey, shut up fellow influencers.
Everyone has a price.
Get that bag, bro.
Legit.
Our final thing here, we have on the list.
It's from you.
You have said fabulous gangster.
This is just a little ending.
This is something quite small to end.
We spoke briefly many moons ago about a song.
I think it was, it was fabulous gangster.
So it's a 2004 song because he mentions in there,
they love me just because I'm in the Gallardo
laughing like Ricky Ricciardo,
because I think we said that he also pronounces it as
Gallardo.
Okay.
So he was one of that.
That rhyme, he could also say Gallardo,
because it's the Ardo.
True.
Yeah, this is very true.
However, I was listening to this song again earlier.
This is a return of our car bars segment.
Because I heard a line in there that I hadn't remembered before.
I'm in the 10 minutes to nine leaning on him.
Like I'm 10 minutes behind.
Do you catch that?
What did I say?
I missed it.
Could you say it again, please?
I'm in the 10 minutes to nine leaning on him.
Like I'm 10 minutes behind.
10 minutes to nine.
What's that?
Ben?
Ben's on his phone.
9-11.
Ben's not listening.
Honestly, I'm trying to think.
What's 10 minutes to nine?
8-50.
Whoa!
8-50.
That's a crazy one.
That's kind of cool.
Kind of cool.
Now, I was...
9-11.
Yeah.
Yeah, it wills Matt.
Not doing so great.
I think 11 minutes past nine.
8-50.
8-50.
Wow.
Now, kind of crazy...
Obviously.
Kind of crazy flex because this came out in 2004.
8-50 production stopped in 99.
So, you're flexing a five-year-old car.
In rap terms, not something you see every day.
So, perhaps it is a Volvo, then.
Oh, true.
Yeah, that could be true.
Could be a Volvo.
Because there is a big L lyric that is...
It's similar that it's...
I'm in the 740, but not the Volvo.
Which is also quite a sick lyric.
Talking about 7-series.
Actually, what a crazy...
You've got no cars, do you?
That's pretty cool.
There is a...
I don't know what the song is.
We will get back to this next week when we find it.
But Jay, videographer Jay, has been informing us of...
It is a rap song or a series of rap songs.
And he told us...
He asked if Richard Porter, who's been on the show before,
writer of Grand Tour, Top Gear and other such things...
And tractors at night.
And tractors at night.
Very well known for tractors at night.
Did he have a sort of rap career at any point?
Because his name comes up quite often.
Yes.
Like, quite often.
He's Richard Porter.
Obviously, it's rap.
You're going to shorten it down a bit, aren't you?
But he's been name-dropped.
Richard Porter, the legend Richard Porter, many, many times.
So, Richard Porter, if you weren't aware,
you are actually quite a famous rapper.
Richard Porter, kind of a sick rap name as well.
Yeah.
One of them was related to...
It was like a hotel line related to a porter.
What does that mean?
You get hotel...
I'm a rich porter.
What's a hotel porter?
I see.
He does like blankets and sheets.
I mean, they bring like...
Wait, no, I was about to say the same.
They bring your luggage along, but that's a bell hop.
If I was a concierge...
I'm sure there's...
That's who's in your MG with you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Washing my shower.
Yeah.
And cleaning your...
But Richard Porter, and you know what?
I would have fobbed it off had it not been for tractors at night.
Exactly.
And now it's entirely possible.
So Richard Porter at night, other than writing about tractors,
is also sort of ghostwriting rap songs.
Like a well-known rapper from the 90s and 90s.
So very impressive.
Crazy to do that moonlighting at Top Gear at the same time.
Yeah.
But thank you very much for listening to this extended version of the Cream Podcast.
We'll be back next week as always.
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