Car Pro Radio Show October 11 25 Hour 2

Welcome to the CarPro Show, the home of straight talk and honest answers about everything automotive.

Jerry Reynolds is the CarPro, a former dealership owner and two-time chairman of the Ford National Dealer Council.

Todd Chambliss is Jerry's co-host, good guy, no sense of direction.

He uses Google Maps to find his way back from the bathroom.

Anyway, here they are now, on the CarPro Show.

Well, hi there.

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A lot of dealers would love to be on this show because I send them a lot of business, but they don't qualify.

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And as a guy that owned car dealerships for a lot of years, very few can fool me.

I will occasionally get put together, get a song and dance from a dealer that talks a good game but doesn't live up.

And when that happens, they're gone.

And they don't want to be gone.

They like being part of this show.

It's good for their dealerships, but they got to perform.

And they got to perform for those people who follow the process.

If you don't go through my website, I honestly can't tell you what's going to happen.

I'm only concerned with the people who follow the process because that's what I gauge them on.

That's what I hold them responsible for.

And that's what you need to take advantage of.

Todd Chambliss.

Yes, sir.

You have to use Google to get back from the bathroom.

You know, my sense of direction, it's not very good.

I don't know for my family, everybody has great sense of direction.

I just didn't get that gene.

I don't know what happened there.

It's okay.

Sort of the run to the family.

What did you do before you could look up things on your cell phone?

I just said, do you turn left or right off this interstate?

And they say, which way are you going?

Like, I don't know.

No idea.

I did a lot of turning around and driving the other way.

I tell you that much.

And you didn't want east, west, north, south directions?

I never, never even occurred to me.

Never.

Isn't that terrible to go through life and say, well, are you driving north or south on there?

Like, or east, west?

I don't know.

I have no idea.

Don't really care.

I don't.

Now I don't really have to because I have a phone.

It tells me where to go.

Yes.

And we got navigation and pretty much all of our cars nowadays.

Thank the Lord for that.

Yep.

Do you use Apple CarPlay a lot?

I do.

I do too.

All the time.

Yep.

It's nice because I'm a big fan of Waze.

I've been telling people about Waze for years.

Absolutely.

And it, it interacts with your Apple CarPlay on your phone and your car.

And you can, you can see directions up there.

To the point, I mean, I know how to get like to church or to certain places I go, but I'll

go and put Waze and have it going just in case there's a big traffic snarl up or something

that it'll redirect me because it's really good about that.

Oh, I did the same thing.

If I've traveled a route a thousand times, I'll still put it in.

Yeah, me too.

Just in case there's a rack and it's so good at directing your round racks.

And it's taking me through country roads and weird routes.

And then you find that later.

Oh, because there was a big giant accident on this major, whatever.

So yeah, it's great about that.

Yeah, you got to learn to trust it as hard as it is sometimes.

It can send you on a weird chase, but normally it's warranted.

I could tickle to when I'm going down a residential street that I don't typically go down.

Right.

And it's a narrow street and you look and there's six cars in front of you.

And you know, they're all looking at ways just like you are.

And that neighbor would say, what is going on?

Why is everybody driving down the street?

It's a parade.

Exactly.

Let's go to Hutto, Texas that is in the Austin, Texas area, the capital.

Sonya, welcome.

Thank you for holding, kiddo.

What can I help you with?

Thanks, Jerry.

Thanks for letting me talk today.

You bet.

I called you a couple, I called you a couple weeks ago and you gave me some great advice.

And I had, I was the lady that had four vehicles and I visited with the local dealership and

the gentleman that you told me to go see.

And we're working, we're working through it.

So the tradians were a little low.

So I'm selling vehicles myself and I'm doing real well.

I'm not happy about the progress I'm making.

Be careful.

I found, I looked at that 2025 expedition, which was beautiful in the expedition max,

but I found a 2022 expedition timber line.

And the timber line is, you know, they don't make that anymore, that trim package anymore.

And my husband and I've driven it.

We like it.

It, it's all, you know, it's, it's a little off-roadish.

Yeah.

Kind of what we want because I want to go places and do things and see some things that I've

not seen.

So, but I wanted to know what you thought of that, the timber line, since they don't make

it anymore.

No, they don't.

But that pluses in the minuses.

Yeah.

I don't know of any minuses if you like it.

It's a trim package.

And, and, you know, trim, the trims are like the King Ranch, the platinum, the timber line.

And I reviewed the timber line when it first came out.

It's, it's a nice package.

How many miles are on the one you're looking at?

39,000.

Oh, wow.

On 2022.

That's awesome.

Um, you know, the, the, the basics of all the expeditions, the bones, the things that

matter, the 3.5 V six eco boost, the 10 speed automatic, all those are the same no matter

what the outside and the inside looks like.

So the bones are good.

I mean, that's, that's been a great powertrain combination in both the expedition and the

F 150.

The number one selling vehicle in the world.

Have you seen a history report on it?

Um, I don't know.

I don't think so.

Get them.

I need to ask for that.

Yes, I would.

I'd look at it with 39,000 miles that ought to be in great shape.

But ask, ask my contact there at covert to let you see it.

They will do that.

I think you're fine.

I go for it.

If you want to keep up with the latest in what's going on in the automotive world, you got

to start with the car pro newsletter.

It's every single Friday it is released.

Jerry puts a lot of work into it every single week.

If you are not a subscriber currently car pro.com is where you start.

Go to the bottom of the page.

A link there will let you get it today.

So I know that you're always working way ahead on the newsletter.

So what do you have cooking for next week?

Well, lead story is GM and Ford canceling the extension of the $7,500 federal rebates.

I tell you about the best and worst cities to drive in.

You remember the story I did in newsletter a few weeks ago, maybe a month about state

farm undervaluing.

Oh, I do.

People's cars that were totaled out.

It's my carrier too.

Well, now I'll bring you next week that there is a class action lawsuits.

Oh my.

On this subject, which I think everybody probably expected.

I think so.

A popular Kia is going away.

Yeah, heard about that.

It's been killed.

Yeah.

And I'll tell you about a rare Ford GT that's going to be sold at Barrett Jackson next weekend.

Oh, OK.

It'll be on the Saturday.

It'll be after we sign off.

I'm sure because this is a really rare 2006 Ford GT that's coming out of the Ford Heritage

Vault, which I just learned they had such.

I didn't know.

Yes, they put aside all the car companies do that.

They put aside certain cars that they keep forever.

Wow.

Sometimes 50, 60, 70, 100 years.

Have you ever had a chance to go into that?

No, I have not.

That's a shame.

That is a shame.

Yeah.

All right.

Oh, and next week we'll have reviews.

I'll have my reviews of the Lincoln Navigator and the Ram 2500 Limited Longhorn Diesel.

OK, sounds good.

Torrance, California, we go to talk to Karen.

Karen, welcome.

Good morning.

How are you guys?

We're doing great, kiddo.

What can we help you with?

So I currently drive a 2020 Lexus.

I think it's an NX 300.

I have a car.

Go ahead.

His three buddies no longer fit in my car.

They're just too big.

Yep.

So I'm looking to upgrade the size of my car, which I didn't think I'd do.

I thought I was in an age where I'd be able to downsize into a cute little coop

and it's not going to happen.

Well, you're not alone.

It does happen.

So I'm looking at maybe the Kia Telluride.

And I'm wondering if you could give me some opinions on that one.

Looks like it would fit four size teenagers, right?

Oh, easily, easily.

Very roomy, very roomy midsize SUV.

It's one of my favorites.

And I love the price point of the Telluride.

I mean, you get the 10 year 100,000 mile warranty, which is great.

They're built in such good vehicles, Karen.

You'll probably never use that warranty, but it's good to know it's there.

Oh, yeah.

Todd, I recommended the Telluride for you.

You should have.

I do.

Are you pleased with it?

100%.

I do it again, really.

The only thing that stops me is Hyundai's got a palisade that they've updated.

But the Telluride, I picked it because it's sportier.

It's got a lot of the same features and the price point that they're offering

for what you get is outstanding.

It's hard to beat that.

It is when you compare to other midsize SUVs.

And the other thing, Karen, the Kia and Hyundai have got some features.

That are part of the vehicle that comes standard on it.

They're really cool that you'll you'll like in the infotainment system and that sort of thing.

You know, it's just it's just a great all around SUV.

I would recommend it.

I know that I've already reviewed the all new palisade, which tells me that the Telluride

is probably going to be updated as well, maybe as soon as later this year.

That's not good news for me.

No, probably not.

But oh no.

We also know that the 2026s are going up in price because of the tariffs.

Yeah.

And we we know that anytime there's a major change to a vehicle, the price goes up.

So if I were you coming out of, you know, needing more size, I'd probably grab a 2025

while their incentives are good right now.

And I think that's I think that'd be a good strategy for you.

You should go drive one.

I've got Mission VA Hokie, which is just an outstanding dealership.

I mean, just fantastic.

If you'll look them up at carpro.com and talk to my contact there and let's see what he can do for you.

He'll fix you right up.

Thank you for the call.

And we go to Gustavo in the home of Disneyland.

Hello, buddy.

What can I do for you?

Good morning, Mr. Yuri.

That's hello, sir.

Thanks for taking my call.

You bet.

I need your opinion on tundras.

You know, Toyota has been having a very good reputation of making great vehicles.

Oh, sure.

But since they come out with this new model that 22 and up with six cylinders B6, I've

been reading the consumer reports and the ratings and I would say there's a lot of negatives

and are very positive, but more negative than positive.

So the question is, is really Toyota heading, you know, really difficult getting into these new models?

No, no, they're not.

Now, in 2022, there was an issue with the 3.5 engine, the six-cylinder.

And they got there in the midst of replacing every one of those engines now.

There were about 100,000 of them.

But by and large, the tundra has been a phenomenal truck.

And I would encourage you to not get too wrapped up in what you read online.

I disagree with consumer reports about 90% of the time when it comes to cars.

So I pay no attention to them.

You'll notice I rarely quote them.

I rarely use any of their information in the newsletter because I think they've got an agenda and I don't like their agenda.

I don't like agendas as a whole.

So when you get online, look, I can take the greatest car ever built and I can get online and find bad things about it.

Bar none.

It don't matter.

But you don't know the back story.

You don't know if the person that had that car overloaded it.

If they didn't do their maintenance, if they never changed their oil and they've got problems about it.

And all of a sudden they become keyboard warriors and they're writing horrible things about what's a good car.

So you only see the bad because the people that are happy don't do that.

Look, tundra's one of the best trucks ever made.

Don't be afraid of it whatsoever.

It's a good truck.

It's not an accident.

Jerry Reynolds has told the car pro for a reason.

Call him now at 1-800-926-7777.

And welcome back to the car pro show.

Jerry Reynolds is the car pro and I'm Todd Chambliss.

We were having a great, great day today.

Edmunds has, I guess, some information that Jerry talked about on the newsletter with vehicle affordability and the challenges out there.

And they apparently have some new data that they're sharing to talk about how down payments, for example, have plunged to the lowest level in nearly four years.

Which is kind of interesting.

That's going to go and make the deal a little bit squirrely at the other end of it if you do that.

Yeah.

Thousand dollar monthly payments are pretty much becoming the norm in a lot of places.

And more than one in five car loans stretching seven years or longer, which I could never imagine paying that long for a car.

Don't do that.

If you got to go 84 months to get the car you won't, don't get the car.

That's not the one you need.

Yeah.

Look for, if you fall in love with a car enough to sign a note for seven years, a legal binding contract, look for a comparable used one.

That's two or three years old.

And get that thing down to 60 months.

And then down the road, maybe the price will come down or build some equity so you got a nice down payment.

But if you've got to resort to 84 months, don't get the car.

That's crazy.

It's just one of those things where there's so many things that can affect the value of it.

And if you're that far into a term trying to get a car paid off, that's going to be trouble for you later on.

If you're looking at it 84 months alone, take the monthly payment into your phone calculator and times 84 and see what you're actually paying for that car.

It'll scare you to death.

Yeah.

And it'll make you think twice.

Don't get so focused on just payment.

There's a lot more to buying a car than just the monthly payment.

And look, I know car dealers love to talk payments with you because if they can talk you up just three bucks a month, that's another hundred dollars to the price.

They can talk you up $30 a month.

That's $1,000 to the price.

And so it's easier for you to wrap your brain around another $30 than it is $1,000.

Make sense?

Yeah, it does, actually.

Think of those terms then, you know, make a good decision before you sign on the dotted line for sure.

Yeah, just, I mean, first off, there's very little difference, surprisingly a low amount of difference in the payment between the 72 and 84 months.

And I'm not nuts about 72.

Yeah, right.

But if you can get a deal like Ford's got going right now where you can get a F-150 for 3.9 for 72 months plus a rebate on top of that.

Okay, I'm all right with that.

3.9 for 72.

That gets the payment where you need it.

Get you a little nicer truck.

Okay, no problem.

But you got to go 84 to get what you want.

Unless it's, you know, an exotic luxury.

Unless it's a, you know, Aston Martin.

And you plan to keep it maybe for a long time.

Yeah, a high dollar Porsche or a high dollar Mercedes.

Just don't do it.

Look at leasing instead.

Yeah.

That gives you a lot of options after just three years.

You just paying for the car, the part of it you use, that way you walk away from it in two or three years.

That's exactly right.

Yeah.

Katie.

I'm sorry.

Elizabeth in Katie on line four.

Welcome to the car pro show.

Hi, Elizabeth.

Is she there?

I was on mute on it.

Oh, hey, when that happens.

It does happen, though, but glad we got you.

What can I help you with, kiddo?

Well, I'm 75 years old.

Once I turned 75 two weeks ago, my boss said I'm on the downhill road of 76, which I didn't appreciate.

But I think I'm in pretty good shape.

And I'm still working, but I've got two questions.

I know I've heard you before when people asked you, there was one individual that asked you about a passenger, a passenger car.

I mean, a van.

Yeah.

And you said that the key and the Hyundai versus the Toyota and the, and I guess the Nissan.

But the Toyota and the other one, the Toyota and Honda retain their value more than the Kia and the Hyundai.

Correct.

That's true.

Does that, I mean, I have three key of three key of sportages.

No, two key of sportages and two souls that I've given all four of them to each grand, grandchild is when they, when they get out of college.

Yeah.

And I want to get, I mean, a really bad back problem, but I want to be very active in my garden and everything.

So I really need, I'd like to get a bigger SUV, but I can't get into them.

They're too high.

Okay.

And that's, that's not uncommon.

So a van works well for you.

Now, let me clear up something that you said.

Hyundai does not make a van.

Only Kia does.

Kia Carnival.

But I typically, depending on how long someone's going to keep a van, I typically go with the Toyota Sienna or the Honda Odyssey for, for longevity.

And, and those, both those vans, particularly the Toyota are typically good to 200,000 miles.

I don't know with certainty that the Kia Carnival is going to do 200,000 miles.

It may.

My warranty.

Why don't the Honda and Toyota and all them give 100,000 mile warranty?

They don't have to.

They've got the reputation for quality.

The only reason Kia and Hyundai put the 10 year 100,000 mile warranty out there about 15 years ago was because they had a very poor reputation for quality.

That warranty is a marketing tool.

It's not practical.

And the reason I say that is they're building such good cars.

They're never going to have to pay out anything on those, but it's there.

And if you want that peace of mind, they're great.

Will a Hyundai Kia go as far as a Honda Toyota?

No, I don't think it will.

But most people don't care about that.

They don't want to keep a car 200,000 miles.

They want to trade it at 100,000 or less, or they don't drive that much and it gets 10 years old.

In your case, you're giving the cars away.

So you're not worried about something that'll go 200,000 miles, right?

Well, I mean, all of my grandchildren that I've given cars to, they still drive them.

And they're all Kia's.

And look, I love Hyundai and I love Kia and I love what they're doing and they're making great cars.

So if that fits the bill for you, I've reviewed the Kia Carnival numerous times.

I've got some great Kia dealers in the Houston area at my website.

You do have the benefit of the 10-year, 100,000 mile warranty if you buy a brand new one.

And I think the Carnival's got the nicest interior of all of them.

But the resale value is not as good as it is with a Toyota or Honda.

Now, that's not anything you need to worry about.

So get the Kia.

Well, the Ram Hemi is back.

The 1500, backed by Consumer Demand, as you saw in the newsletter, that was released yesterday.

And I did learn something.

I looked it up because I'd heard Hemi forever and I knew it was high performance,

but that's specifically because of the hemispherical shaped combustion chamber.

Yes.

And I learned that and I'm glad that I looked it up because now I can go back and re-watch the video

that Amy posted, Amy Plemmons, who is our executive producer of the show.

She had a chance to go spend some time with the brand new Hemi, the 2026 1500 Longhorn.

And of course it is posted right there in our newsletter.

If you haven't had a chance to go and check out the newsletter,

you can sign up and get yours delivered to your inbox today from carprobe.com.

Yeah, it's really cool that the Hemi's back was stupid of the previous CEO to discontinue it.

I wonder why they did that.

You know.

Is it a politics thing?

They were all going, they were going to go all electric.

They had a Ram 1500 electric truck almost ready to go and ready for delivery to the dealers.

Yeah.

And when he got, well, they say he resigned.

Okay.

I promise you it was under duress.

Agree for him to leave?

Yeah.

Wow.

Well.

Then they started getting back to the roots.

Which everybody wanted anyway.

They want the power.

They want that ability to do that.

Yep.

They wanted, you know, truck buyers.

And I've had the F-150 Lightning Electric a couple of times.

I had the new Silverado Electric, which I absolutely loved.

It was wonderful, but they're not for everybody.

And the Hemi was just, it's part of history.

I mean, Chrysler designed that engine in the 60s and just made a great name for themselves from that.

And then for somebody to come in, some weirdo come in and take over the company and start

scrapping things that, you know, were successful.

Yeah.

It doesn't make sense.

It doesn't.

Ford went through this in 2000.

That's when I got on the Ford dealer council because they were doing everything but building

great cars.

And I just kept saying, stick to what you're good at.

Jeff Pasadena, Texas.

Welcome.

Hello, Jeff.

How are you doing, Todd and Jerry?

You doing all right today?

We're doing good, my friend.

What can we talk about with you?

Well, you kind of answered one of my questions on the last call or two, but I traded in a

2018 Hyundai Elantra and upgraded to a 2025 Hyundai Sonata.

Yeah.

Baytown Hyundai helped me out immensely.

I was going in to try to get a Sonata Limited, like my wife has a Elantra Limited, to get

all these safety features and the electronics on it.

He said, well, the SE has the same thing.

Do you need leather seats?

And I said, no.

And he saved me a lot of money there.

Boy, he sure did.

I can't tell you.

Yeah, he did.

And I actually got everything I wanted because I didn't need all that leather and everything.

Yeah.

But they treated me well.

Good.

Another question is, Baytown did me good.

They saved me money right off the bat and they saved me a lot off sticker.

Good.

And what do you think the mileage is on the 2025 Sonata before I probably need to start

looking at trading it?

I traded my last one in at 160 just because I flooded it out and put a new engine in it.

All right.

Before we run out of time.

Your decision is to trade it before 100,000 miles or settle in for the long haul and keep

it about like you did the last one, 150, 160 somewhere in that area.

That's a good time to trade before something happens.

But if you want to maximize the value, do it at under 100.

Don't let it hit six figures.

No website knows what the car pro knows because he specifically addresses your needs.

Call now, 1-800-926-7777.

It's happy listener time.

Got some great stories from folks who follow Jerry's advice on getting their brand new

vehicle.

First we go to Houston and Tom Ball Ford where Jorge Lopez was involved in a great deal

that Mark God and a Ford F-150 said his experience with Jorge and Ashley at Tom Ball Ford could

not have been better, courteous, knowledgeable and efficient, which Jorge is just one of

those bigger than life guys, isn't he?

Yeah.

He's been with me for over a decade and he just does it right.

He does.

And folks love him there too.

I think you said before he had a chance to move up in management and he said, no, I

love taking care of customers.

Many times.

Love that.

He's been at Tom Ball Ford for over 20 years.

That's kind of a record in and of itself, isn't it?

Yes, it is.

And Freeman Toyota in the Dallas, Fort Worth area is where Jim went and talked to somebody

you know well, Jerry Patterson, looking for a Grand Highlander.

He says, the staff there is great, very knowledgeable.

BJ and Tim both call me within an hour of me signing up with CarPro.

I would recommend CarPro and Freeman Toyota to anyone thinking of buying a new or used

Toyota.

There you go.

Los Angeles, we're going to lose you here in less than two minutes, but go to CarPro.com

and stick with us for hour number three by clicking listen live or later today around

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Now as we line up for hour number three, go to thechase.com CarPro hotline and you can

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