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Carmakers Were Lying To Us About Manual Transmissions

Carmakers Were Lying To Us About Manual Transmissions

Carbage Time Jul 16, 2026 29 min
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About this episode

Automakers, the hosts argue, have been “lying” about manual demand—claiming people didn’t want manuals while quietly offering “fake manual transmissions” via gated shifters, clutch-by-wire, and dual-clutch setups. They debate whether a “manual-feeling” Ferrari is truly a manual, explain how electronic control translates pedal inputs, and point to real-world proof that drivers still chase the clutch feel. Porsche data, EV training simulations, and DIY/OBD ideas all reinforce the episode’s core theme: manual-like engagement matters.

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fake manual transmissions

"we're talking about fake manual transmissions. Ferrari's got one now. Are these things silly toys?"

It means a car that pretends to be a manual. Instead of a real manual gearbox you shift yourself, the car uses an automatic system but tries to mimic manual driving.

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DCT

"It only came with a dual clutch transmission. And let's just say after the introduction"

A dual-clutch transmission is an automatic gearbox that uses two clutches to shift very quickly. It can line up the next gear ahead of time, so the car feels more responsive than a typical automatic.

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Ferrari Luce

"... introduction of a certain car called the Ferrari Luce, all of a sudden Ferrari was like,"

The Ferrari Luce is a particular model from Ferrari. The podcast mentions it as something that changed how people viewed Ferrari after it was introduced. It’s discussed more as a brand milestone than as a normal daily car.

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DSG transmission

"Because it's a DSG transmission, you said, right? So there are physical clutches in there."

DSG is a brand name for a dual-clutch automatic gearbox. It helps the car shift faster by preparing the next gear in advance.

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torque converters

"It's not all torque converters. Yeah, it's a DCT. It's a TCT."

A torque converter is a fluid device that lets the engine and transmission connect in an automatic car. It’s different from a clutch-based system, and it can change how the car feels when shifting.

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TCT

"Yeah, it's a DCT. It's a TCT. So it sort of is."

TCT is an acronym the hosts are using to describe the transmission type. They’re basically arguing about whether it uses clutches like a dual-clutch gearbox or works more like a torque-converter automatic.

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clutch by wire

"It's a clutch by wire, [120.0s] letting drivers manually control clutch actuation"

Instead of a cable or rod connecting your clutch pedal to the clutch, the car uses electronics. Your foot tells a sensor what you want, and a motor/actuator does the actual clutch movement.

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throttle by wire

"I'll play my own devil's advocate. [136.9s] Throttle by wire is like that, right? [139.2s] You're not connected."

With throttle by wire, pressing the gas pedal doesn’t mechanically pull the throttle open. Sensors measure your input and the computer controls the throttle electronically.

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throttle body

"While in your cars, the throttle body is connected. [143.5s] Mine and mine are just cables, literal wire cables."

The throttle body is the part that controls how much air the engine gets. More air usually means more power, and in modern cars it can be controlled electronically.

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Honda CRV hybrid

"But in my Honda CRV hybrid, right? [151.4s] It's throttle by wire."

The Honda CR-V Hybrid is a real-world example the host brings up to show how modern cars can control throttle electronically. Even if it’s not a cable connection, your pedal still tells the car what to do.

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potentiometer

"It is translating what you do [154.3s] via potentiometer, new electrical signals,"

A potentiometer is a sensor that turns position into an electrical signal. The car reads that signal to know how far you pressed the pedal.

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DSG system

"the DSG system they had set up works great. [167.8s] That's the other problem here."

DSG is a dual-clutch automatic transmission used by Volkswagen and Audi. It’s designed to shift quickly, and the host is saying it works well.

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automatic transmission

"[181.0s] The automatic transmission is just better at it now. [185.3s] Doesn't mean it's more fun. [187.4s] It just means it's better at it."

An automatic transmission is a car gearbox that shifts gears by itself. You don’t have to use a clutch or move a shifter to change gears.

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Ferrari 458

"[215.6s] And I will say that there's a guy named Jeff Siegel [218.4s] and he put a manual in a Ferrari 458. [221.8s] And we did a video on it and people went insane for it"

The Ferrari 458 is a famous Ferrari supercar with a powerful V8 and a sporty, driver-oriented setup. Here it’s mentioned because someone installed a manual gearbox into one, and people reacted strongly.

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V12 Cilindri

"[225.0s] because these cars aren't rational. [227.8s] And you're not buying a V12 Cilindri to be the fastest. [230.8s] You're buying it to be fun"

“V12” means the engine has 12 cylinders arranged in a V shape. The point being made is that people buy cars like this for the experience and sound, not just for being the quickest.

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full automatic mode

"Actually, what's funny about this is that this, it can go in full automatic mode. You can just go drive."

“Full automatic mode” means the car shifts gears for you. You don’t have to choose gears—it's like a normal automatic setting.

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MoneyShifting

"Sure, yeah. It prevents you from money shifting, which is actually good."

Money shifting is when you shift into the wrong gear and the engine spins way too fast. It can be really expensive because it may damage the engine.

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pop the clutch

"Can you burn rubber? Can you just pop the clutch and just lay a wheel? I don't know if you can."

“Pop the clutch” means letting the clutch out very quickly to make the car jump forward. People do it for hard launches, but it can be rough on the car.

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burn rubber

"Can you burn rubber? Can you just pop the clutch and just lay a wheel? I don't know if you can."

“Burn rubber” means the tires spin and slip so much that they smoke. It usually happens during hard acceleration.

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lay a wheel

"Can you burn rubber? Can you just pop the clutch and just lay a wheel? I don't know if you can."

“Lay a wheel” means the tire starts spinning without gripping the road. It’s basically wheelspin during a launch.

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gated shifter

"Like or the little buttons are everybody loves a gated shifter So this should be the default and the option you should have is it should be either the the fake Manual or the full manual"

A gated shifter is a gear lever that moves through a set path for each gear. That makes it easier to find the right gear without guessing.

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race mode

"You're on the racetrack and for some reason you're racing a Ferrari and time matters You've just put it in race mode you drive off. You're okay now."

Race mode is a setting that makes the car act more “track-focused.” It usually makes acceleration and driving controls more aggressive and responsive.

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Resvani

"So this is from two companies, but the main company is resvani And we all know a resvani from From the resvani beast they build The Wrangler that's got all kinds of body kit on it and they make a lot of very armored"

Resvani is a small car company that makes very extreme, heavily customized vehicles. The host mentions them to illustrate the kind of wild, modified car they’re talking about.

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Resvani Beast

"And we all know a resvani from From the resvani beast they build The Wrangler that's got all kinds of body kit on it and they make a lot of very armored"

The Resvani Beast is one of Resvani’s most famous cars. It’s known for being extremely modified and flashy, not a normal everyday vehicle.

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Jeep Wrangler

"From the resvani beast they build The Wrangler that's got all kinds of body kit on it and they m..."

The Jeep Wrangler is an SUV made for off-road driving. People often modify it with extra parts and body kits because it’s designed to be customized. It’s a common choice when someone wants a vehicle with a very distinctive look and capability.

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dual clutch

"It's basically it and if you have a dual clutch supercar [497.5s] They can take out some of the and they're building this for the a few cars interestingly"

A dual-clutch transmission uses two clutches to make gear changes faster and smoother. The point here is that the car may already shift automatically, and the device is trying to make it feel more like a manual.

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Chevrolet Corvette

"They're doing it for the Corvette C8 [505.1s] But and this is I think actually a great application for the sea [507.6s] So if you get a C8, there's a little plate where you can control where you have all your controls for for selecting gears"

The Corvette C8 is the newer Corvette with the engine in the middle of the car. In this segment, it’s the specific Corvette they’re talking about for a “manual-like” control setup.

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paddle shifting

"Gearbox a fake 60 piece gearbox and it will translate what you want as if you're paddle shifting, I guess it'll translate that [532.9s] To the car and but there's no clutch"

Paddle shifting lets you change gears using buttons or levers behind the steering wheel. The hosts are saying the setup mimics manual-style gear selection, but the car still shifts automatically and there’s no real clutch.

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sequential

"So it's basically another interface for paddle shifting like also. Does that mean it's always got to be sequential good [543.8s] Could you go from?"

“Sequential” means the gearbox only moves through gears in order. They’re debating whether the device can mimic that strict step-by-step shifting, or whether it can jump around gears.

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skip shift

"What was it like the C4 Corvettes that had that thing for the fuel economy? Oh the skip shift [554.2s] Yeah, could you emulate a skip shift on there for nostalgia value or I have to be"

Skip shift is a feature that can make the car start out in a way that saves fuel by skipping a gear. The hosts are joking about whether the new setup could mimic that older, quirky behavior.

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overdrive

"You just leave it in six because everything after there is basically an overdrive. I guess yeah"

Overdrive is a higher gear that lets the engine spin slower when you’re going steady. That usually makes the car quieter and can help it use less fuel.

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fake six speed

"But like if we're being honest a fake six speed Automatic and a C8 Corvette is like not a bat the best possible application..."

“Fake six speed” here refers to a transmission setup that mimics the feel of a six-speed manual (often via shift simulation or paddle/selector logic) while not being a true six-speed manual gearbox. The hosts argue that this can undermine the point of a manual—driver interaction—especially in a performance-focused car like the C8 Corvette.

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manual choke

"[741.0s] Manual choke in and some old cars instead of an automatic choke because there's some people didn't like it, but [747.2s] Not common people don't usually step down"

A manual choke is a knob or lever you pull to help a car start when the engine is cold. It changes the fuel/air mix so the engine catches more easily.

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carburetor

"[750.3s] To having that like nobody was trying to like I mean people do put carbs on fuel injected engines [757.4s] That's a common thing carbs and fuel injected."

Carburetors are fuel-delivery devices that mix gasoline with air before it enters the engine. The host contrasts them with fuel injection, noting that people sometimes choose carburetors because they can be more comfortable to tune or because they don’t want to deal with fuel-injection repair.

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fuel injection

"[750.3s] To having that like nobody was trying to like I mean people do put carbs on fuel injected engines [761.7s] But that usually happens because they're either more comfortable with a carb."

Fuel injection is how many modern cars deliver fuel to the engine using valves and sensors. The host is saying older fuel-injection systems were harder for some people to repair, so carburetors sometimes got swapped in.

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manual shift

"[798.0s] It's odd [798.8s] But I mean odd the one things that we know it acknowledges that there's still a demand to manually shift your car"

A manual shift means you choose the gears yourself instead of letting the car do it. The host is saying people still want that more involved driving feel.

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Brand

Koenigsegg

"It's it's interesting and it's it's Koenigsegg. So that you know, Koenig the way Koenigsegg does everything is Insane so it's like that that I like better"

Koenigsegg is a small Swedish company that builds very high-end supercars. The host is using it as an example of a brand that takes unusual engineering approaches.

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torque changes

"had built an EV With a fake manual transmission setup just for teaching purposes and it like emulated the torque You know changes that you would get by going gear to gear, but it was an EV"

Torque is the force that actually moves the car. “Torque changes” means how that force ramps up or down between shifts.

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Porsche 718

"Porsche sales last quarter and then year-to-date and you'll see that 9-11's killing it the 718 ... They stop production of the 718"

The Porsche 718 is Porsche’s mid-engine sports car line. The host mentions it to compare sales and to talk about how Porsche is changing what versions get built, including manual options.

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Porsche 911

"Porsche sales last quarter and then year-to-date and you'll see that 9-11's killing it the 718 ... I asked because I was curious I asked Porsche ... what's the take rate on manuals? ... the GT3 ... the take rate is above 50% ... 83% got a manual"

The Porsche 911 is Porsche’s famous sports car. In this segment, the host is talking about how many people buying different 911 versions choose the manual transmission instead of an automatic.

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Porsche Cayenne

"in the fourth quarter the second quarter it's could Become depending on what happens with cayenne it could become the second best selling model ... there's some change over with cayenne and all that"

The Porsche Cayenne is Porsche’s SUV. In this segment it’s mentioned because its sales could shift the overall ranking of Porsche models.

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manual take rate

"I asked Porsche I was like, okay. What's what's the take rate on manuals? What are we seeing and what they said was ... Carrera T 100% manual ... the GT3 ... the take rate is above 50%"

Manual take rate means: out of all the people who could buy a manual, what percent actually chose it. The host uses it to show that plenty of buyers still want manuals when they’re offered.

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Porsche Carrera T

"They basically said the Carrera T 100% manual because that's what it is now Carrera S is 100% PDK"

The Porsche Carrera T is a specific 911 trim level. In this segment, the host says it’s set up to be manual-only, which helps explain how Porsche is steering buyers toward (or away from) manual transmissions.

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Porsche Carrera T

"...thought this was awesome. They basically said the Carrera T 100% manual because that's what it is now Carrera..."
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PDK

"They basically said the Carrera T 100% manual because that's what it is now Carrera S is 100% PDK so then but the Carrera T"

PDK is Porsche’s automatic transmission. It uses two clutches to shift very fast, so it can feel close to a manual even though you don’t shift yourself.

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Porsche GT3
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Porsche GT3

"The GT3 which is our best bet to look at what the manual take rate is for 9-11 because you have a choice the take rate is above 50%"

The Porsche GT3 is the more track-oriented version of the 911. In this segment, it’s important because Porsche buyers can choose a manual, and the host says more than half pick the manual.

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Porsche GT3 Touring
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Porsche GT3 Touring

"and then the GT3 touring which is gorgeous and Perfect and and in some ways the best one out ... 83% got a manual"

The Porsche GT3 Touring is a special GT3 version meant to be a bit more comfortable for real-world driving. The host uses it to show that even expensive GT3 buyers still strongly choose the manual—83% in this example.

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OBD port

"because we've been talking all of these things have been expensive things They've been for expensive cars. Yeah, hypothetically you could make a little Shifting do Hickey plugs into your OBD port gets control of things."

The OBD port is a plug in your car that mechanics and scanners use to read the car’s computer data. The idea here is that someone could plug in a gadget to affect how the car behaves, like shifting.

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shifter ninja

"Do you guys know what the shifter ninja is? What's the shifter ninja? So well, I will show you a picture of the shifter ninja because this is hilarious"

The “shifter ninja” is a gadget that looks like a shifter and is meant to make an automatic feel more like a manual. The hosts are skeptical and suggest it may mostly be for show.

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cup holder shifter

"Is a thing for oh The cup holder shifter yeah, that's the model threes and oh, yeah, thank you Griffin for pulling it up so"

A cup holder shifter is a fake-looking shifter gadget that sits in the cup holder. It’s often meant to give you a manual-like vibe, but it may not actually do much mechanically.

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drive-by-wire

"However, it's kind of weird and the the more effort that they put into making it seem like a manual the weirder it is however [1263.1s] Generally, okay with drive by wire [1265.5s] I do think I agree with you"

Drive-by-wire means the car uses electronics instead of cables or direct mechanical connections to control things like throttle. That makes it easier for the car to imitate manual-style actions.

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fake shifts

"Even if it's I mean because electric cars now and like hybrids have fake shifts [1279.8s] Yeah, you could even do with an evie. It would make like a little [1283.1s] You could like fake it you could you could down 50."

“Fake shifts” are software-created gear-change sensations in vehicles that don’t use a traditional multi-gear transmission (common in EVs and some hybrids). Instead of real gear ratios changing, the car simulates the feel—often with torque shaping, sound, or timing—so it resembles shifting.

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Hyundai 50 Ioniq

"Even if it's I mean because electric cars now and like hybrids have fake shifts [1279.8s] Yeah, you could even do with an evie. It would make like a little [1283.1s] You could like fake it you could you could down 50. Ioniq five does that like it could be done"

The Hyundai Ioniq 5 is an electric car. In some EVs, the computer can make it feel like you’re shifting gears even though there’s no real manual gearbox.

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Toyota Corolla

"... cars It's a shame that if you can't get a Toyota Corolla Ahanda Civic ahanda cord with the manual that sti..."

The Toyota Corolla is a small, everyday car that many people use for commuting and errands. Some buyers specifically look for versions with a manual transmission because it changes how the car feels to drive. That’s why it can come up in conversations about finding the “right” setup.

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Honda Civic

"Ahanda Civic ahanda cord with the manual that stinks because even though those are not high take great cars"

The Honda Civic is a very common small car. People mention it a lot because some versions can be had with a manual transmission, so it’s an easy way to talk about what manuals are like in daily driving.

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Ford Mustang

"...ould be nobody wants to get rid of a manual and a Mustang or a miata But it would be nice if you could just..."

The Ford Mustang is a sporty car that’s meant to feel fun to drive. Some people prefer it with a manual transmission because it gives you more control over shifting. That’s why it often shows up in conversations about finding cars with manuals.

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Mazda MX-5 / Miata

"...y wants to get rid of a manual and a Mustang or a miata But it would be nice if you could just get a chea..."

The Mazda MX-5 (Miata) is a small two-seat roadster designed to be fun and easy to drive. Many people like it with a manual transmission because it makes the driving feel more connected. That’s why it often comes up when someone wants a manual sports car.

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fuel economy

"But it would be nice if you could just get a cheap car the manual because maybe your fuel economy wouldn't be as good or whatever [1316.9s] Based on mono ones, but repairs will probably be less over the life of the car."

Fuel economy means how far the car can go on a given amount of fuel. The hosts are saying transmission type might change how efficiently the engine runs.

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Nissan Sentra

"But it would be nice if you could just get a cheap car the manual because maybe your fuel economy wouldn't be as good or whatever [1316.9s] Based on mono ones, but repairs will probably be less over the life of the car. I would bet yeah, I think we're still [1323.0s] Yeah, and I think we're generally like pro it better than a CVT [1327.6s] But that's the thing like this honestly if you if you could get one of these for like a CVT [1332.4s] Nissan Sentra"

The Nissan Sentra is a regular, affordable compact car. Here it’s mentioned as an example of a car where people might want a more engaging driving feel than a typical automatic provides.

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semi-auto

"I've had a car that had no clutch, but you shifted my old beetle Originally had a semi-auto and the clutch was invoked when you touched the gear shift"

A semi-auto is a gearbox where the car helps with shifting, but you still have to choose gears (or at least start the change). It’s not fully automatic.

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hydraulic clutch

"It hit a little electrical contact and I had a hydraulic clutch"

A hydraulic clutch uses fluid pressure to move the clutch mechanism rather than relying purely on mechanical force. In many cars, the pedal operates a hydraulic master cylinder, which then actuates the clutch slave cylinder to disengage and engage the clutch.

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rear transaxle

"Rear transaxle is it trans I come trying to remember the c I guess it is meninges the setup like papers"

A rear transaxle is the gearbox and final-drive hardware packaged together near the back of the car. If you’re trying to add a manual, where that unit sits can make the job much easier or much harder.

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Corvette C6 Corvette

"...ke a manual is you could just buy A pretty decent c6 corvette or is maybe even stretching at a c5 06 right grif..."

The Corvette is a sports car built for performance. Some versions are available with a manual transmission, which is what the podcast is focusing on. The C5/C6 generations are often mentioned because they can be found used and still feel like real sports cars.

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CVT

"[1532.3s] The best cheap car cvt is one that has a fake one that we've somehow developed ... [1588.5s] Like there's that Subaru that has a cvt that has fake shift points."

CVT means continuously variable transmission. It’s a type of automatic that changes ratios smoothly, and the host is talking about how some CVTs can be made to feel like they’re shifting gears even when they’re not.

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Mazda Miata
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Mazda Miata

"[1542.6s] Just just buy a c6 or that or a miata or literally anything and anything your lives"

The Mazda Miata is a small, fun roadster that many people buy because it’s enjoyable to drive. The host is name-checking it as a cheaper option if you want something that feels more like a real manual.

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fake shift points

"[1583.8s] But some there's got to be some that exposes anything that has fake shift points already ... [1588.5s] Like there's that Subaru that has a cvt that has fake shift points."

“Fake shift points” means the car is programmed to act like it’s shifting gears at certain moments. Under the hood it may still be doing something different, like smoothly changing ratios.

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OBD-II

"[1601.4s] I think it's less about [1603.5s] Whether the obd two works or not it's you're going to hijack the the the specific control ecu like that"

OBD-II is the common diagnostic system most cars use. The host is saying it’s not just about whether the diagnostic standard works—it’s about getting the car to actually do what you want.

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control ECU

"[1603.5s] Whether the obd two works or not it's you're going to hijack the the the specific control ecu like that"

A control ECU is the car’s computer for a particular system. The host is saying the key is getting access to the transmission’s computer so it will respond to your commands.

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Volkswagen Tiguan

"You know at voltwagon tiguan Would be a great car to do this with do we know anybody with a voltwagon tiguan? And it does have a manual. I mean even in my old tig, my 2010 tiguan You can go and shift up and down through the gears like with the you know with the shifter"

The Volkswagen Tiguan is a popular SUV. Here, they’re talking about using one as an example of how an automatic car can be made to feel like it has a manual by controlling the gear changes.

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