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Chase Elliott Wins 2nd Cup Race of Season at Texas, Kyle Busch-JHN Feud & Watkins Glen Preview

Chase Elliott Wins 2nd Cup Race of Season at Texas, Kyle Busch-JHN Feud & Watkins Glen Preview

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About this episode

Chase Elliott’s Texas win anchored a wide-ranging conversation about Hendrick Motorsports’ growing speed, with the No. 9 team praised for its consistency and William Byron and Alex Bowman also showing momentum. The panel contrasted that progress with Ford’s ongoing struggles, especially Team Penske’s pit-road mistakes and Joey Logano’s rough stretch. They also looked ahead to Watkins Glen, where Trackhouse’s road-course entries carry major pressure, before breaking down Kyle Busch’s feud with John Hunter Nemechek and Busch’s Twitter defense.

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limited late model

"“Where at? We're going to Florence, South Carolina. What kind of car? A limited late model.”"

A “late model” is a type of race car used in grassroots stock-car racing. “Limited” means the rules restrict what you can change so teams can’t go too far with expensive upgrades.

Brand

Dodge

"“I've been working on it for a while with Mopar and with Dodge with them getting a crate engine back in the late model stock racing.”"

Dodge is a car brand. In this conversation, it’s part of the manufacturer-backed effort to bring a crate engine into late model racing.

Company

Mopar

"“I've been working on it for a while with Mopar and with Dodge with them getting a crate engine back in the late model stock racing.”"

Mopar is a parts/performance brand tied to Stellantis. Here, they’re involved with the crate engine program for the racing car.

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crate engine

"“...with Mopar and with Dodge with them getting a crate engine back in the late model stock racing. So is the engine in the car? The engine is not in the car this weekend...”"

A crate engine is a new engine that comes pre-packaged from the manufacturer, ready to install. They’re using one for the race car, but they’ll test the car first before dropping the engine in.

Topic

Texas Motor Speedway

"“So we have plenty to talk about leaving Texas Motor Speedway. We will also preview the road course race of Walkins Glen...”"

Texas Motor Speedway is a well-known NASCAR track. They’re talking about what happened there before moving on to the next race.

Topic

Walkins Glen

"“...We will also preview the road course race of Walkins Glen that's coming up next...”"

Watkins Glen is a famous road course track. They’re previewing the next road-racing event coming up there.

Topic

Cup Series

"“Okay, let's go ahead and start with the Cup Series event where Chase Elliott scored his second win of the year...”"

The NASCAR Cup Series is NASCAR’s main top-tier racing series. They’re talking about a Cup Series race result involving Chase Elliott.

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track position

"And when he got the track position at the end of the race, [181.9s] he definitely had the speed to compete with whoever was on the racetrack at that time."

Track position just means where your car is on the track compared to other cars. Being in front at the right time can help you control the race and avoid getting passed.

Topic

Hendrick Motorsports

"So I think that's the moment we've all been waiting for from, from Hendrick Motorsports, [196.4s] as far as the, you know, the, the, the speed to go with, they did a great job at Martinsville,"

Hendrick Motorsports is one of NASCAR’s biggest racing teams. Here, they’re talking about how well the team’s cars were performing and whether they were ready to take over.

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next gen

"And he has struggled realistically with the next gen. And, and now that they're starting to figure it out, [246.7s] you could see it last year."

“Next gen” is NASCAR’s newer race-car rules and design. Teams have to learn how to make it work well, and once they do, their cars start performing more consistently.

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gen seven car

"And they had the consistency to go with, you know, I know since the gen seven car, [259.1s]"

“Gen seven car” means a particular generation of NASCAR race car. Different generations behave differently, so teams often need time to learn the best way to set up and drive them.

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chase format

"And I think when you look at the chase format, I mean, it plays right into their hands. And if they're winning, makes them dangerous."

NASCAR’s “chase format” is the playoff system. Drivers don’t just race for one-off wins—they need strong results to keep advancing through elimination rounds.

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restart

"So the guy that finished second was Denny Hamlin admittedly saying he didn't have great restarts all day. What'd you see from the 11? ... he got a good launch ... just couldn't quite hang with the nine."

A “restart” is when the race restarts after a caution. The driver who gets going well can gain spots right away and set up the rest of the race.

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launch

"He got a good launch and they got to, you know, turns one and two and just couldn't quite hang with the nine."

Here, “launch” means how quickly the car gets up to speed when the race restarts. A good launch can help you get ahead before the first corners.

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stage

"When the lights come on, the nine shows up. When the stage is big, the nine does not falter. Is that the new quote?"

A “stage” is a part of the race where NASCAR awards points at the end. Teams plan their strategy around these segments so they can score and still race hard later.

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turns one and two

"like they, they, he, he got up on the wheel and got it done. And that dude turned one and two is so treacherous down there when you're side by side..."

“Turns one and two” are the first couple of corners on the course. The hosts are saying they’re tough—especially when cars are close together—so mistakes are more likely.

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side by side

"...so treacherous down there when you're side by side and you got to lay it all on the line because it's just as, just as likely for you to wreck down there as it is for you to get out for turn two."

“Side by side” means two cars are driving next to each other. In tight corners, that makes things riskier because there’s less space to react if something goes wrong.

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banking

"It feels like you're at a parking lot after you go through turns three and four, you're just dug into the banking sucked down in the seat. And then you go to turn one and you're like, whoa, not much to lean on here."

Banking is when a race track corner is tilted. That tilt helps the car stick to the track at higher speed, but it can make the car feel tricky when you move from banked corners to flatter ones.

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setup

"when you have those compromises in the setup to get through the bank corner and have to figure out how to get through the flat corner, the cars just become challenging to drive."

A “setup” is how the race car is adjusted for a particular track. If the track has very different corner types, you may have to compromise, and that can make the car more difficult to drive.

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flat corner

"...compromises in the setup to get through the bank corner and have to figure out how to get through the flat corner, the cars just become challenging to drive."

A “flat corner” is a corner that isn’t tilted much. The car has to rely more on tire grip and good driving, which can make it feel harder than a banked corner.

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bank corner

"...compromises in the setup to get through the bank corner and have to figure out how to get through the flat corner, the cars just become challenging to drive."

A “bank corner” is a corner where the track is tilted. That tilt helps the car turn faster, and it can feel very different from flatter corners.

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building blocks

"...they've had solid finishes and able to put themselves in a position to have those building blocks of, Hey, we're going to get out of here with a third place, finish it at Talladega. We're going to get out of here with a third place, finish it at Texas."

They mean the team is getting small wins—like good finishes—so they can keep improving over time. Instead of big mistakes, they’re building confidence with steady results.

Topic

Talladega

"...we're going to get out of here with a third place, finish it at Talladega. We're going to get out of here with a third place, finish it at Texas."

Talladega is a NASCAR track where cars go very fast and race in tight groups. Good results often come from avoiding wrecks and keeping your position.

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chasing the balance of their race cars

"Well, I look, they've been kind of chasing the balance of their race cars. And when you are chasing the balance of your race car, you continue to have questions until you, until you hit on something when you go on the racetrack."

They’re trying to get the car to handle “just right.” If the car feels too loose or too tight, the team changes the setup until it drives consistently.

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race conditions

"you don't really know until you get those cars in race conditions and see what the handling is like."

It just means how the car acts when it’s being driven hard in a real race. Tires wear, the track changes, and the car can feel different than it does in practice.

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handling

"...see what the handling is like. So I think they're still a little apprehensive about being confident..."

Here, “handling” means how the car feels when you’re turning and braking hard. It’s about whether the car stays stable and predictable.

Company

Gibbs car

"...what would that be like with all the experience or, or just a Gibbs car for just using the two dominant cars..."

A “Gibbs car” means a race car from Joe Gibbs Racing. The host is comparing how a driver might do with different top teams.

Company

JTG

"...because he's, he's driven at JTG. He's, he's driven at, at Rouse now,..."

JTG is a NASCAR team. The point is that the driver has raced for multiple teams, so his experience isn’t limited to just one organization.

Company

Rouse now

"...because he's, he's driven at JTG. He's, he's driven at, at Rouse now,..."

This is another NASCAR team name. The host is basically saying the driver has experience with different teams.

Company

RFK

"So for him to have an opportunity to win is huge. And you know, RFK, they're really kind of toting the flag for Ford at this point."

RFK Racing is one of the NASCAR teams. They’re basically saying RFK is the Ford team that’s performing best right now.

Company

team Penske

"Um, for whatever reason, it's not clicking at team Penske right now. And I know I've said it before, like they're going to figure it out…"

Team Penske is a top NASCAR racing team. The hosts are saying their Ford cars haven’t been as consistent as they’d expect.

Topic

Kansas

"That's the part that concerns me is the 12 at Kansas and, and at Texas. No bueno."

They mention Kansas as another race where things didn’t look great for the same car/team.

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mile and a half racetracks

"So that concerned me that he kind of fell back into the category with the rest of the Fords and the struggles that they, they had on, had been having on the mile and a half racetracks."

“Mile and a half” tracks are NASCAR ovals around 1.5 miles long. The hosts are saying the Ford cars have been struggling on that type of track.

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Gen 7 car

"So talking to a lot of those Ford guys, I mean, it's, it truly is the exact same problem that they had when I was driving the Gen 7 car. The car won't turn through the middle of the corner, right?"

“Gen 7” is the current NASCAR race-car generation. They’re saying the same handling issue shows up again: the car doesn’t steer well in the middle of turns and struggles when cars are packed together.

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car won't turn through the middle of the corner

"The car won't turn through the middle of the corner, right? And it's not as good in traffic as, as the other two makes."

They’re saying the car doesn’t handle well once you’re in the middle of the turn. That makes it harder to stay on the fastest racing line and can slow you down.

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not as good in traffic

"And it's not as good in traffic as, as the other two makes. And they haven't made any headway as a manufacturer in making their race car better."

“Traffic” means racing close to other cars. They’re saying the car feels worse when it’s surrounded by other vehicles, not just when it’s driving alone.

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pit road

"Ryan Blaney, you reference qualified 31st, started to make a lot of ground early in the race, picked up 11 spots, but on pit road, he stalled out multiple times, seemingly in the wrong gear..."

Pit road is the special area NASCAR cars pull into during the race to get serviced. If something goes wrong there—like the car won’t launch properly or the stop isn’t done correctly—you lose a lot of time.

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qualified 31st

"Ryan Blaney, you reference qualified 31st, started to make a lot of ground early in the race, picked up 11 spots, but on pit road..."

“Qualified 31st” means the driver started 31st on the grid because of qualifying. If you start near the back, it’s tougher to move forward, so pit strategy and pit stops matter more.

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wrong gear

"...but on pit road, he stalled out multiple times, seemingly in the wrong gear. It seemed like he was in the wrong gear right there."

“Wrong gear” means the driver (or car) is in the wrong transmission setting for the moment. If you leave the pits in the wrong gear, the car can bog down or stall and you fall behind.

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pit stop

"...We saw a 13.3 pit stop or here we go again. Here we go again. Pit crew, pit crew had, had major problems, but that was not the case at all."

A pit stop is the scheduled service stop where the team changes tires and may adjust the car. The transcript’s “13.3 pit stop” highlights how fast the crew can execute the stop, but the outcome still depends on whether the car is released cleanly and correctly positioned.

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pit box

"...the second issue right here behind Eric Jones, uh, who had to go around his tire changers, um, and get, got in his box crooked. So Ryan has to back up."

A pit box is the specific marked spot on pit road assigned to each team. If the car enters the pit box crooked, it can complicate tire changes and the release, forcing the driver to back up and lose time.

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two tires

"Logano wasn't happy that they just did two tires. It didn't sound like he knew about it..."

During a pit stop, teams can change two tires instead of four. Two tires can save time, but it can also mean the car doesn’t handle as well as it would with four.

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road course

"And now we're going to a road course. So when it rains it pours..."

A road course is a track with lots of turns, not just a big oval. The hosts are saying road courses can make results more unpredictable.

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points

"...with the points is like... Logano 17th in the, in the points and,"

NASCAR points are how drivers are ranked over the season. Finishing results add up, and the hosts are talking about where drivers stand right now.

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adjustments

"...They made a whole host of adjustments to try and get the five to his liking. Ultimately, well, we had this incident here with Briscoe and him."

Adjustments are changes the team makes to the race car to help it handle better. They’re often done during pit stops so the driver can go faster and stay in control.

Concept

single-car spin

"...Ultimately, well, we had this incident here with Briscoe and him. And then Kyle goes for a single car spin, just saying, I lost it..."

A single-car spin means one car loses grip and spins by itself. It usually comes from the tires not having enough traction at that moment.

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qualifies on the pole

"...on a day like yesterday, right? He qualifies on the pole, all the momentum wins the truck race..."

“Qualifies on the pole” means the driver starts the race from the front. It usually helps because you’re in the best position right away.

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flat tire in practice

"...because Daniel Suarez had that flat tire in practice, but qualifies on the front row..."

A “flat tire in practice” means the tire went bad before the race. That can throw off testing, so the team has to adjust fast to still do well later.

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dropped the green flag

"...absolutely horrendous when they dropped the green flag, just couldn’t go back fast enough..."

“Dropped the green flag” means the race started. They’re saying the car was having trouble right from the beginning.

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making the chase

"And I think they're 14th in the, in the points, which for them, in my opinion, it's not about winning the championship. It's about making the chase."

NASCAR has a points race during the season, and then the best teams/drivers move into a playoff. “Making the chase” means you’re doing well enough in points to reach that playoff part.

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top six

"When we talk about those top six, we're talking about the hitters, right? The guys that we expect to go out there and compete for the championship."

They’re talking about the very front of the standings—basically the small group of drivers most likely to contend for the championship.

Company

Trackhouse

"Suarez making the chase, home run from, from where he was at track house last year to where he's at at Spire and what Spire has done."

Trackhouse is another NASCAR team. The speaker is comparing where Suarez was before and how things look after the move.

Company

Spire

"Suarez making the chase, home run from, from where he was at track house last year to where he's at at Spire and what Spire has done... them having two cars in the post season, that is definitely a home run."

Spire is the racing team the speaker is talking about. They’re saying Spire is getting better and could be a serious threat because they have strong cars heading into the playoffs.

Term

on-board

"“Well, two of them anyways… right behind them was the finisher of William Byron… I want to show his on board for a second as driver 22 misses William Byron…”"

“On-board” means a camera view from inside the race car. It helps you see what the driver was doing and how they handled a moment on track.

Term

spin out

"“…they showed up with speed and practice right when they got off the truck, spin out, come back, able to put themselves back in the, in, you know, the top 10 to, to finish the race.”"

A “spin out” is when the car starts sliding and turning the wrong way because it loses grip. The driver has to recover to get back under control.

Car

Chevrolet Spin

"...d and practice right when they got off the truck, spin out, come back, able to put themselves back in t..."

The Chevrolet Spin is a small family-style vehicle meant to carry people and gear. The podcast mentions it in connection with a car spinning out and then getting back on track. That suggests it was involved in a driving moment during practice.

Topic

Hendrick team

"realistically is that the Hendrick team as a whole, they have a long, they have a long way to go, but they are chipping at it and getting closer."

They’re talking about Hendrick Motorsports, one of NASCAR’s biggest teams. When they say “the Hendrick team,” they mean how that whole organization is doing, not just one driver.

Topic

qualifying

"You can look at qualifying and say, Oh man, they're just, there's nothing that we can say, Oh, they're back."

Qualifying is when cars run to determine where they start in the race. If qualifying looks strong, it usually hints the car may be fast in the race too.

Topic

attrition

"The top 10 was a centric. I thought it was interesting. That's Texas. It's 100% Texas. A little attrition. A little attrition."

Attrition just means some cars don’t finish—usually because of crashes or mechanical problems. More attrition can make the race outcome less predictable.

Topic

groove get as wide as it is

"When that asphalt ages and you see that groove get as wide as it is right now, just, it'll keep getting better too."

The “groove” is the best path around the track that drivers like to follow. If it gets wider, it usually means there are more places where cars can grip and go fast.

Term

rec

"Yeah. What? 20 didn't slow down much and wound up in the rec. So definitely two different strategies right there as to how to miss that spinning car of Todd Gillin."

“Rec” here means “recovery”—getting the car under control after something goes wrong. The point is that some drivers avoided the problem while others had to recover from it.

Term

strategy

"Yeah. I just, you know, I look at that and I'm like, man, 11 slowed down a lot. Yeah. What? 20 didn't slow down much and wound up in the rec. So definitely two different strategies right there"

“Strategy” is how a team and driver plan their race—how they manage the car and make decisions to get the best result. Two drivers can take different approaches and end up with different outcomes.

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stock race

"The way that the pressure is mounting on these guys and the opportunities to win. And they know how few and far in between they are, because it is maybe the hardest, one of the hardest things in the world to do is when, when a stock race, a cup race, like just winning in general at this level is feels impossible all"

A “stock race” means the race cars are based on regular cars you could buy, not a one-off prototype. They’re still modified for racing, but the starting point is production vehicles.

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cup race

"And they know how few and far in between they are, because it is maybe the hardest, one of the hardest things in the world to do is when, when a stock race, a cup race, like just winning in general at this level is feels impossible all"

A “Cup race” is NASCAR’s top-level race. It’s the biggest series, so the competition is tougher and the stakes are higher.

Topic

Watkins Glen International

"...because now we're headed to a road course. It's Watkins Glen International also totally different time of year..."

Watkins Glen International is a famous road course track. NASCAR races there, and the track’s turns and braking zones make it a big deal for how cars are set up.

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heavy braking

"...hammer down style road course, heavy braking, fast corners..."

Heavy braking means the track forces drivers to slow down hard and often. That can make the tires and brakes work harder and changes how the car handles.

Term

tire packs at the exits of a lot of the corners

"...and and putting the tire packs at the exits of a lot of the corners so they can't just fly over the exit curves..."

Tire packs are stacks of tires used to protect the track. If they’re right at the exit of corners, drivers can’t cut the track as much, so you have to be more accurate.

Concept

carousel

"...or coming out of the carousel. You can't just roll all the way to the outside..."

The “carousel” is a named part of the Watkins Glen track with a series of corners. How you exit it can make it easier—or harder—to get a good run for the next section.

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high speed S's

"[2134.4s] they're going to run good regardless, but how good, because Tyler Reddick at Kota kind of put them on notice. Like you got to come get me. So this race track, it sounds like it's fast. It's technical. It's unforgiving in those high speed S's."

These are fast left-right (or right-left) corner combinations. When you’re going that quickly, even a small mistake can throw off your whole lap.

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bus stop

"[2154.8s] and how you get to the exit to turn two, because if you don't have the car positioned to the right side of the race track for turn three, then it hurts you all the way down into the, into the bus stop. And so that, that dictates the speed that you carry down that back straight away."

The “bus stop” is a named slow-down area on the track. Drivers have to brake hard and place the car correctly, or they lose a lot of time.

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caution falls

"...If the caution falls, you're going to get the track position and, and be in the game."

A “caution” is when the race slows down because something happened on the track. If it happens at the right time, teams can change their strategy and often gain an advantage.

Topic

NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series

"...you got to watch the craftsman truck series race on Friday. We got a stacked field with AJ, Almond Dinger, SVG, Connor, Zillich..."

The Craftsman Truck Series is another NASCAR race series that runs on trucks instead of the Cup cars. The field can be stacked with drivers from different teams and backgrounds.

Car

Challenger Hellcat

"...ou drive? What do I drive? I drive Dodge Durango Hellcat. Okay. Yeah. I was hoping you weren't going to sa..."

The Challenger is a sporty, performance car made by Dodge. It’s designed to be quick and fun to drive. In the conversation, it’s mentioned while the speaker is talking about their car choices.

Car

Toyota Prius

"...ah. I was hoping you weren't going to say like a Prius or something. No, no, no. I got that. No, we got ..."

The Prius is a car that uses both a gasoline engine and an electric motor. It’s built to use less fuel than many regular cars. In the conversation, it’s brought up as a specific model the speaker didn’t want to be the answer.

Car

Scion Frs

"...o, no. What was your car before the? I got a sign FRS. What about before the Durango? The sign FRS. Wh..."

The Scion FR-S is a small sports car. It’s meant to feel lively and easy to drive compared with bigger, heavier cars. In the podcast, it’s brought up as the car someone had before their other vehicle.

Term

SMT

"Well, Kyle went to Twitter and like showed the telemetry, the SMT. And I'll read this real quick."

SMT sounds like a shorthand label for a specific piece of race data or tracking info. The exact meaning isn’t spelled out in this clip, but it’s part of what Kyle shared.

Term

telemetry

"Well, Kyle went to Twitter and like showed the telemetry, the SMT. And I'll read this real quick."

Telemetry is the car’s “data feed” from the race. It shows what the driver and car were doing so teams can figure out what went right or wrong.

Term

outside wall

"The 42 apparently doesn't know where the right side, right side, thank you. The right side of his car is and where he is in relation to the outside wall. There was two feet outside of him..."

The outside wall is the track barrier on the outside edge. Drivers try to stay close enough to be fast, but not so close that they risk hitting it.

Term

hash marks

"There was two feet outside of him and I was juggling my left side tires to the hash marks. Always know who you're racing beside."

Hash marks are painted lines on the track that act like visual reference points. Drivers use them to judge where they are on the track.

Concept

giving racing room

"Kevin, what say you, OG? Um, I don't think that John Hunanima check did anything wrong right here as you see the car in front of him is a little bit closer to the wall, but the car right in front of him is in the exact same line. And regardless of where they are, I mean, Kyle has to give him the room and they're going straight and he turned over the front of John Hunanima checks car, put some both in the wall."

It means one driver has to leave enough space for the other car to stay on the track. If they don’t, it can lead to contact or a wreck.

Term

turn three

"And regardless of where they are... he turned over the front of John Hunanima checks car, put some both in the wall. They go into turn three and then he wipes him out again."

Turn three is the third corner on that track. Saying “turn three” helps everyone know exactly where the problem happened.

Term

top 10

"...qualifying well, running in the top 10 and they could have finished 25th at that point and no controversy..."

Top 10 means being in the first ten spots. It usually puts you in a better position to race cleanly and finish well.

Term

crew chief

"...otherwise a complete win for the eight car with the new crew chief for the whole day and the whole weekend, all you had was positives all weekend."

The crew chief is the team’s main strategist. They help decide pit stops and what the car should do during the race.

Term

burnout

"[2881.5s] of Mr. Chase Elliott with his burnout. And I'm not trying to be mean. Maybe it's just because [2885.4s] of Carson hosts of ours have been so awesome."

A burnout is when the driver spins the tires to make smoke. It’s often done for show, especially after a good race.

Topic

championship stuff

"They did a great job again and you're seeing championship stuff out of that 45 team. They were not good to start that race, kept grinding away."

They mean the parts of the race that matter for winning the season championship. It’s about doing well enough that you stay in contention, not just one good finish.

Term

COL

"[3185.4s] down that road, it gets harder and harder. And the thing that you run out of first is time. [3190.5s] The thing Kevin always talks about is the COL, Circle of Life. That's right."

COL here means “Circle of Life.” It’s a way of describing how a NASCAR driver balances racing with everything else that comes with success, like obligations outside the car.

Term

COT

"[3194.7s] That's exactly right. He says it a lot. It's a key to this sport, my friend. Yeah, it's a very big [3202.1s] key. There are several of them that don't have a very good COL. Yeah, the COL better than the COT."

COT is NASCAR slang for the “Car of Tomorrow,” which refers to a particular era/type of NASCAR race car. They’re jokingly comparing the “Circle of Life” idea (COL) to that NASCAR reference (COT).

Topic

Watkins Len

"[3202.1s] key. There are several of them that don't have a very good COL. Yeah, the COL better than the COT. [3208.0s] All right. On that note, thanks so much for joining us. Make sure you follow us on Harvick [3212.0s] Capipod. We will see all of you after Watkins Len."

They’re previewing the next race at Watkins Glen, a famous track known for road-course turns rather than just oval speed.

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