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Welcome back to the podcast today, a record IPO, ultra long range E-Refs and a million
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Plus stay tuned, I'll tell you about Goshen's Moroccan Gigafactory.
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Welcome to AV News China, the podcast dedicated to the world's biggest EV market.
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Each day I'll bring you headlines, insights and analysis from the heart of China's booming
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EV industry and decode how fast moving developments in the East are shaping the global EV landscape.
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Well Cherry Automobile made its Hong Kong market debut today, completing the biggest
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automotive IPO, initial public offering on the Hong Kong exchange this year.
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The company plans to use roughly 35% of the IPO for passenger vehicle R&D, 25% for next-gen
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technology R&D and 20% for overseas market expansion.
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They're ticking all the boxes with those aren't they?
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Founded in 1997 and based in Wuhu in the Inuit province, Cherry is one of China's big vehicle
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Cherry Auto is a principal asset of Cherry Holding.
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They also do financial services, real estate and other businesses.
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Financial show rapid growth over the last three years, in 2022 revenue climbed from
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$92 billion RMB, about $13 billion US equivalent, to $270 billion RMB, that's about $38 billion
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Now moving on, Chinese automaker Xiaomi Great Wall Motor and Leap Motor all plan to offer
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a plug-in hybrid or an e-rev version of their cars with an 80 kilowatt hour battery pack
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in the next year, according to the Outlet 36KR Auto.
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These cars would deliver pure electric range of between 400-500km, that's 250-310 miles.
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While current and near-term rivals include SAIC's IM LS6 e-rev, that's a 66 kilowatt
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Then there's Geely, they have the Zika 9X, that's a plug-in hybrid with a 70 kilowatt
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The reported 80 kilowatt hour entries are expected to include the Xiaomi Kunlun, which
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is maybe going to be badged YU9, Great Wall Motor's Tank 800 and Leap Motor's D-Series
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flagship SUV like the D-16, 36KR auto reporting that some automakers will use the so-called
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eight series high nickel cells to limit weight increases from a large pack.
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You see, lithium-ion phosphate technology, LFP, is easily the majority of the Chinese
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market right now, around 80%.
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Very common, but it adds more mass.
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Several 80 kilowatt hour plug-in designs could, if you're using the old technology,
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be over three tons for the vehicle.
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So, the eight series high nickel chemistry is more expensive, it's a ternary NMC type.
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Earlier eight series cells did show poor thermal stability and short cycle life, whereas current
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NMC cells, using what they say is the five series formulation with nickel-cobalt-manganese
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ratio of five to three are more reliable.
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CATL, the world's biggest battery maker, is reported to plan a new generation of high
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nickel cells next year.
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Many plug-in hybrids and E-Revs in China are used by their buyers in electric only mode,
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and they rarely, if ever, use the internal combustion engine, mainly for longer trips.
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The move to larger plug-in hybrid battery packs is part of an ongoing competitive escalation
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amongst EV manufacturers in China.
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It's one-upmanship, in extreme cases of 2,000 kilometers of range in a single journey.
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For context, the long-range Tesla Model Y, one of the world's best-selling vehicles,
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has a 78.4 kilowatt hour pack.
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The entry-level X-Pong G9 uses a 79 kilowatt hour pack, about the same as the Tesla Model
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The Xiaomi Kunlun would have an 800-volt electrical architecture, three rows of seats,
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and a battery the same size as some of the best pure-bevs out there.
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Moving on, congratulations to the team at Leap Motor, producing its one millionth car
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earlier today, becoming China's second startup to hit the mark.
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The company reached the milestone 343 days to the day, after passing the 500,000th mark,
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a faster pace than other rivals.
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Founder and CEO Zhu Jiangming called the result evidence of the accelerating momentum of Leap
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Motor, taking five years to hit 500,000 units, but then less than a year, to double the number.
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The company delivered more than 320,000 vehicles in the first eight months of the year so far,
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and led the Chinese NEV startup sales rankings for six consecutive months.
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Leap Motor reported a first half net profit this year as well, and record gross margins.
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Things are going well.
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It's in-house development designs that builds the batteries, the electric motors, and even
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their core computing architectures, accounting for about 65% of the vehicle cost, and that's
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what's credited with improving their cost structures.
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The company promotes this approach, as the technology for all approach founded in 2015.
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Leap Motor is expanding overseas rapidly, with Stellantis, a major shareholder, using
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Stellantis distribution and service, particularly here in the UK.
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The most closest ones, maybe about half an hour away.
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It's not every Stellantis dealership, by the way.
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But they're entering 30 international markets.
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The brand operates 700 sales and service outlets overseas, including 640 in Europe, delivering
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more than 30,000 vehicles overseas this year, and last month in August, they overtook BYD
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to lead Germany's pure electric market as well.
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Now, let's talk about a German name in China, where a lot of the German big luxury premium
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manufacturers have struggled to find a foothold in recent years.
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Mercedes-Benz is beginning presales now in China of its all-electric CLA.
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That's an incredible vehicle, amazing efficiency.
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The long wheelbase version actually offered in two trim levels, the CLA 300L, which starts
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at $260,000, U.S. $36,000, and the all-electric CLA 300L ultra-long range, again, $300,000,
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about $41,000, equivalent.
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The vehicle uses an 800-volt architecture, rear-wheel drive, or all-wheel drive.
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It peaks at 325 kilowatts of charging.
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And believe it or not, that's not that fast in China, and it'll add 202 miles of range
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in 10 minutes, an 85 kilowatt hour battery.
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Offering what they say is Level 2 plus plus driving assistance.
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That doesn't exist.
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It's either Level 2 or Level 3.
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A lot of the automakers have got very advanced Level 2 systems, and they're trying to make
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them sound, well, very advanced.
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But they can't call them Level 3 because they're not hands-off, eyes-off systems.
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And so they do all they can.
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It was Level 2, then Level 2 plus.
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Mercedes call this Level 2 plus plus.
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How long till someone puts a Level 2 plus plus plus?
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I'm only half joking, by the way.
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Tesla and China's doing really well lately.
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Boy, have they struggled.
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But they have finally got some good news to report.
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Tesla will report their global Q3 numbers next week, isn't it?
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The company posted the highest weekly China registrations this month.
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Now, unsurprising, we're at the end of the quarter.
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All the vehicles made in Shanghai that were due to be exported have been exported.
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So now these are domestic sales in China.
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So we would expect the numbers to go up.
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But this is really good news for Tesla.
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China auto industry trackers recording 17,300 Tesla insurance registrations, not ideal metric.
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And also, a lot of people in China don't want the weekly insurance numbers being
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published, by the way, they feel it skews the market.
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It can allow good news and bad news to be interpreted in incorrect ways.
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They want it smoothed out a little bit.
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But if you look at the weekly numbers for September 15th to 21st, up 13% from the
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prior week and a strong week in Q3, the weekly breakdown, according to CN EV
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Post, showed 10,340 Model Ys, 850 of them were the long, long wheelbase, and 6,000 of
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them were Model 3s.
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In the prior week, they sold about the same, actually about 1,000 of the long
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wheelbase Model Ys.
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But they're weekly and they're insurance data and careful.
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After 12 weeks of Q3, though, Tesla registrations are up on the quarter from
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quarter two, but down 8% on the same time last year and down 6% year to date on the
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same time last year as well.
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Which is not a disaster because we've seen in Europe Tesla falling between 40 and 50%
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And so China, although down between 6 and 8% year to date, is a better news story than
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what's happening in Europe for Tesla.
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X-Pung reported some vehicle deliveries outside of China that were very positive.
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Almost 25,000 X-Pung's exported in the first eight months of the year.
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The company said the figure, which they shared on Weibo, after republishing a user,
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which I don't speak Mandarin, nor am I able to read Chinese characters' opinion.
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I think it translates as EVs going overseas is the username on the account.
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They say there's an increase of 137% compared to the same period last year for
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According to the data, in the 46 countries and regions it's entered, X-Pung ranked
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first in 12 of them.
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While holding the top position for total sales in new EV brands in 32 of them,
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X-Pung said it would now operate across 46 countries and regions.
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Last month in August, X-Pung had signed 119 global dealers to date, rising from
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The same source described a balanced regional distribution.
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So I think what they mean is Europe is about half of the overseas sales for
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X-Pung, Middle East 25%, and then split between Asia and Latin America too.
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Now, let's talk a little bit about sales in Hungary, Croatia and Slovenia for X-Pung.
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Entering the Hungarian market with distribution handled by Auto Wallis'
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wholesale network, Budapest hosted the regional debut.
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The brand is launching in Hungary, Croatia and Slovenia.
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All markets managed for the imports by Salvador Ketano and Auto Wallis.
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They also provide sales and after sales support across the region, sales begin in
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the autumn with three models, the P7, the G6 and the G9.
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Vehicles will first be offered to customers via pop-up stores in Budapest,
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starting in October.
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Okay, let's talk a little bit about the Lincoln Co. 08 EMP.
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It's a refresh of this vehicle, by the way.
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It's an updated version announced yesterday and it starts at $160,000.
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You want about $22,000 dollars equivalent.
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This refresh adds LiDAR to enhance automotive driving features, exterior changes,
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now larger lower air intake modified side air channels, revised headlights
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with the new brilliant starry sky elements as they describe them,
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and a roof mounted LiDAR sensor, a hot and cold storage box integrated into the
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central armrest is a very common feature in Chinese cars, even at these lower price points.
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And so we see that in here.
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The center console has been redesigned for more storage capacity,
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powertrain options of this very conventional looking SUV.
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May I say from the side angle, a bit Range Rover Velary, so a sloping roof line, not too long,
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but a very, I think, very good looking vehicle inside the pictures that they published
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have bright orange trim, so bright orange leather, but kind of a leather equivalent
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seats, bright orange dashboard trim as well.
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Wow, you need sunglasses inside the car, but striking and a lot of cars, let's be honest,
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a little bit boring these days in terms of color choices.
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And so, wow, looking, well, striking, but pretty on the outside, pretty conventional,
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Hey, that's not a bad thing.
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They've got to have somewhere, it's a conventional kind of three box or two box shape,
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the big bonnet sticking out the front and the big SUV shape anyway,
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but you've got to have somewhere to put the engine because this does have a 1.5 liter engine.
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Single or dual motor configuration, single motor setup has 280 kilowatts combined,
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dual motor 436 kilowatts combined.
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If you're going pure electric range of the battery, either 99 or 142 miles,
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depending on configuration of this one, we'll take a break, we'll come back,
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we'll talk about vehicle to grid and BYD and their battery technology, stick around back in a mo.
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Welcome back to the podcast.
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Let's talk about vehicle to grid being optimized in China.
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Researchers at the Shanghai Jiao Tong University developed an operation optimization strategy
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for EV charging stations using vehicle to grid technology,
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but also integrating PV generation, so adding a bit of solar,
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but a battery energy storage and vehicle to grid as well.
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This is all part of how EVs will become part of our clean green renewable ecosystem in the future.
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And it fascinates me because the car that you drive has typically been something that consumes
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energy in the future.
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The cars that we all drive and perhaps other devices as well will be part of our energy future.
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And that makes them play a very important part of our lives.
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So this new system that they've been testing combines what they call day ahead power procurement.
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So what's the price of electricity tomorrow with intraday real time scheduling?
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So once we're inside a day, what EVs typically charge at this charging location?
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And what do they typically how much energy to people typically put into their EV?
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So stage one sets how much electricity to buy at what price from the forecast of the weather.
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So how much will our PV system generate tomorrow with the sun?
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Then there's time of use prices.
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Then there's the battery state of charge that we think it'll be at.
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Stage two accounts for the PV forecast, any errors, finalizing day ahead procurement planning,
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and the day ahead plan is adjusted in real time.
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They tested this on a strategy of a Shanghai charging station with 80 DC fast charges that
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were sort of 100 kilowatt units.
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And they showed cost reductions overall of the energy that you don't need to buy from the grid
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because you're going to be generating it yourself or you can buy it at different times
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and store it in the battery cheaper between 13 and 18 percent cheaper electricity at that
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If you cleverly manage PV battery, bit of vehicle to grid, you can feed back in and things like that.
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Really fascinating work happening there.
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I'm sure it's happening all around the world, but I love hearing about it.
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How EVs, how batteries, storage, clean green generation, all works together to make our
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Like this stuff, people go, oh, yes, we'd love to be green, but it's really expensive.
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Well, it's just lowered the price by 20 percent just by a smart algorithm.
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Probably the AI involved as well.
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I imagine they didn't mention that.
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But just to work out what's the weather tomorrow?
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Should we buy some electricity at what price?
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Just being clever about it makes our lives cheaper, right?
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Now, BYD is next in the news.
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They obviously, BYD do everything.
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They also do battery energy storage like Tesla do their mega packs.
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They've just introduced in China BYD, the Haohan Battery Energy Storage System, B-E-S-S or best.
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BYD said that each system has a capacity of 14.5 megawatt hours.
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That's three times Tesla's latest greatest mega pack three they just announced.
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If you put it inside a 20-foot shipping container, BYD said the system will deliver
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10 megawatt hours, 50 percent more capacity than its competitors.
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BYD said the number of packs is being reduced by more than half and that cuts land use as well,
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indicating that the technology transfer has happened from their automotive division
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to the energy storage division using a new cell size specific to energy storage systems.
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A 2,710 amp hour cell using the Blade Battery Platform developed for EVs,
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which provided benefits in stability, safety and packaging.
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BYD said the system could reduce renewable curtailment by storing excess generation.
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If you've got too much green energy coming onto the grid, don't slow down your wind turbines
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or turn off your solar farms.
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Store it at a very low cost using these new BYD energy storage systems, which are huge.
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They say that they are the least expensive detachable
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base load source in many locations.
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So if you need energy that would normally mean a fossil fuel
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peaker plant, for instance, that needs to get built to support a certain bit of the grid locally,
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well you can do that with big batteries.
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Finally, Chinese firm Goshen high tech will invest 5.6 billion US dollars to build a large
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battery factory in northern Morocco with operations starting by the end of next year
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that'll produce up to 100 gigawatt hours of battery capacity.
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That's maybe two million small to mid size EVs, batteries for two million cars.
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The problem is Morocco's electricity mix needs a bit of work.
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You see it's heavily fossil fuel based right now.
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Going back to 2023 data, 28 terawatt hours of the country's 43 terawatt hours came from coal.
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The rest mostly natural gas, which needs changing because,
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and it may have changed in the last two years already with more renewables coming on the grid,
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but battery production is very energy intensive.
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And if we can ensure that, well in Morocco, they've got a bit of sunshine,
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that the batteries are made with renewable energy.
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It makes the whole EV a lot cheaper.
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The Gigafactory will supply those in Morocco, which is increasingly the likes of Renault,
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their cheaper Romanian brand Dacia.
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Also, I think made in Morocco, Stellantis have business there,
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and increasingly because there's a free trade agreement with the United States,
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so you can ship them from North Africa to the US.
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But equally, it's a hop over the Gibraltar Strait and so it's right next to Europe.
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The project will make key battery parts like anodes and cathodes
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and strengthen the local supply and value chains.
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That's your podcast for today.
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Thanks for listening. I'll see you on the next one.