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Your party and the awards you give out are becoming so coveted, you know, and the trophies that you guys do and the, you know, the bling necklaces and everything.

I mean, and what party could pull off Jimi Hendrix, Star-Spangled Banner, you know, the entire version and have everybody into it.

I'm glad you brought that up.

Chris Jacobs in studio. You've done the show before. This is the first time you're doing it in studio.

So we're very excited.

And Josh is super nervous.

Thank you for that.

You did. You helped me. I think you're the first threefer.

Oh, really?

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It's my honor, man. Well, yeah, I've been looking forward to coming in to see you guys,

because as you know, my hometown is Chicago, and the timing works out perfectly.

Because you called me, you're like, come in the studio, when are you going to be in Chicago next?

And I was like, well, I'm coming in from a catkin and the Bears game, more importantly.

Oh, thank you, sir.

How many Bears games you've been to this year?

Just the opener. I went to see the Minnesota win and loss.

They're on the roll right now. They're on the roll right now. You could be the...

Seven of their last eight. I hope you're not the bad luck.

No. It's always been an interesting experience being a Bears fan,

because you get hope immediately following even a loss.

You know, they lose and then you're like, I hate this team.

I'm giving up on these guys.

And then come Monday, you start psyching up for the next game.

So I mean, it's in my blood.

We've had season tickets since 1971, the year that they moved to Soldier Field.

My dad had them, and when he passed away, he left them to us.

So now we have them.

And yeah, I'm hoping they don't leave Soldier Field, because if they do,

they'll probably be priced out.

I think the seat licenses in Arlington Heights are like quarter million bucks a piece.

It's crazy what they're going to be asking for it.

But I'm going to the game on Sunday,

and it's Aaron Rodgers' last appearance in Soldier Field.

And I'm hoping we can show him the door with an ass kick.

Is he playing? Didn't he?

He did, but he's going to do everything?

It's his non-throwing hand. He broke a bone in his wrist, his left wrist.

And that M&F'er will do anything to play against the Bears, exactly.

Can I curse on this show?

Yes, that mother of a fucking Aaron Rodgers.

Who I hate with every fiber of my being.

He is an interesting dude, though.

I'm not a sports guy at all,

but I watched a little bit of that documentary.

He said, it's an interesting cat.

I couldn't bring myself to watch it just out of pure hatred.

From the competition level?

I have never been an Aaron Rodgers fan.

I'm Cowboys fan, so I have an equal hatred for, you know...

Redskins or Giants?

Packers are the same thing.

Let's say Go Bears.

Let's toast to the Bears.

You guys got your monogram glasses.

When I watched the Jets, I watched the HBO, the Hard Knocks.

I will say watching him as a normal person and how he reacts

and how he acts with the other rookies and younger players,

I started being like, alright, he's a normal guy.

And I'm sure I had a different level of respect after watching that.

He's still a weirdo and he does his own thing.

But at the same time, I kind of respect the fact that he does march to it.

If he was playing for a different team, you would have...

If he would have never been at Green Bay, you'd have had a different...

For sure. No, absolutely. You're absolutely right about that.

There was an extra level of hatred because he was on the Packers.

And he beat us so many times and I witnessed it in person so many times.

And it hurts.

And then, you know, he didn't play against us when he was playing for the Jets,

but now he's coming back as a stealer and it's definitely his last time

because he's retiring.

And I just so badly want to send him out with a loss

because it would take away probably about 20% of the total pain

that I've felt in my lifetime as a Bears fan.

How many times has he lost in Soldier Field?

Only a couple.

I think only once, maybe twice at the most.

Yeah, no, it's bad. It's a bad record.

He's got the bragging rights.

A good weekend weather, so it's going to be great.

Yeah, it's going to be perfect football weather, like 55 degrees.

Yeah, it's going to be great.

And we have the most amazing seats, too.

We're on the 25-yard line, south end zone, behind the Bears bench.

And we have four aisle seats in the sixth row.

So it's the greatest seats in the whole stadium.

Are those temps good for the old pigskin?

Josh, is that...

That is great football weather.

It's great football weather.

I see those fuckers playing in the snow.

Have you ever tried to use your hands when it's cold out?

That's the thing.

I open a car door and do it wrong and it's like,

my hands do not...

Those cheeseheads, they thrive on being like,

we're real fans.

We're going to be in that.

I don't care how big of a man you are,

how big of a football fan you are, that's got to be miserable.

Absolutely miserable.

Yeah, but those guys, I mean, they're, you know,

the way they get into the game and the way they focus

and they're, you know, moving and sweating,

and I'm sure they feel a little bit...

Oh, the fans? Yeah, no, the fans.

Well, you know, they're pouring me another drink

and they don't feel much.

Have you ever been to Green Bay?

There's nothing else to do besides the Packers game.

I mean, that is like the thing about that town.

There's the stadium and then there's maybe

some houses around it and that is it.

Yeah.

The town owns the team.

Yeah.

We came back from SEMA and my son's 11,

had a football game and it snowed

and for like three years,

oh, we got to play a snow game.

I want to play a snow game.

I'm not wearing a base layer.

We're going to go tough.

We're going to scare the other team.

I'm like, yeah, dude, you're wearing a base layer

and you're going to freeze to death,

and you're going to scare both teams

on the sidelines crying.

I can't feel my fingers. I can't move my toes.

Fingers are turned into glass.

Just a touch of a face mask

on your fingers in the cold.

Parents weren't much better in the stands.

Of course not.

Coming right off of SEMA, man,

you were busy.

The only person that rivaled your busyness

and on-air appearances

was probably Fab Guy Ryan.

I think he's trying to become the new face of SEMA.

He's the mayor. He's the mayor of SEMA.

He's certainly the mayor of Central Hall.

I saw more Fab Guy Ryan pick

than anything else in my social media.

I mean, he never got tired, too.

I've seen like 30 interviews with him,

either the Mustang or the Aston Martin,

and he's just enthused city

and he's pointing everything out.

I'm happy for those guys

because Mike and Jim are very low-key,

very subdued,

and so to have a guy like Ryan

repping the brand is super

because he knows everything about the cars, obviously,

and is very happy

to give anybody a full tour.

Yeah, he does great with it.

He does good.

Mike and Jim go up there and just dismiss everything.

It's fucking things a piece of shit.

He don't want to know nothing about this fucking car.

He goes up there and it's like, he's good.

Yeah, he does.

So SEMA Live, you were busy all week long

and you're doing...

That's like from doors open to doors closed.

Yeah, I was in my seat at 8.45.

I got a half hour for lunch

and then I was there till 5.

5 and then 4 on Friday.

It was long days, but you know what?

I love doing it.

I was actually the only bummer about being up there

the whole time because I wasn't able to walk around the show.

So I really didn't see as much as I wanted to.

I saw a little bit of Central Hall

and that was about it.

But to have the people

who I was able to interview on the show

was just amazing.

I think I did 16 on day one,

15 day two,

probably about 15 day three

and maybe 10 day four.

And we just covered everybody.

Except for you guys.

I don't know why we didn't have you guys up there

because that would have been a blast.

We're old days, man.

You didn't check your junk mail.

Damn, that's what it is.

That's on us.

They were down there live for the unveil.

But I'll tell you one thing.

Big hair muscles.

There's stuff to do

every single night at SEMA,

obviously, right?

And I'm like, I'm an old enough guy

where I know that the next morning

is going to be hell if I go out the night before.

So I reserve one night to go out

and that is, of course, Thursday night

to the Roaster Shop Party.

And it once again was

so much fun and

what a great venue.

You guys upgraded in such a major way.

Luckily the pool area was

roped off because multiple people

would have wound up in there.

We made sure to do that.

We just talked about that with

fab guy Ryan.

No disrespect because I'm part of this community.

All the degenerates, including myself

would somehow end up in the pool.

As the night goes on.

There's next year.

I got permission for next year.

We looked at it. We said, you know what?

Because we did have that whole section.

Right here.

Smart move.

But it's cool.

Your party and the awards you give out

are becoming so coveted.

And the trophies that you guys do

and the bling necklaces

and everything.

I know you kind of halfway

mean it as a joke, but they're so cool

because they're so well done

and such quality stuff.

It's really cool to win those

and to have those.

And it's so important it is

everybody shows up to that party.

Nobody misses that party.

It's a humbling experience for sure

just to look around.

It's something.

But the trophies are wild

because to your point

it did start off as it's a gag.

This is funny.

But then when you really sit down

and you figure out we had engineers

design them.

We machine the RS logo.

It's not cheap by the way.

Josh sits down and he hand

bedazzles him. He places all those things

in the chain.

Then we machine the little chain adapter.

Then we fabricate the thing.

It's probably a $10,000 chain.

If you really figured if you build it

do a customer for later hours.

You went in somewhere and ordered that.

You factor the gold in it's about

$12 or $13 a piece.

There's a lot.

Advanced playing does a lot

of gold plating.

You put in our stuff.

You saw the behind the scenes factory.

There's a whole assembly line

of bedazzling going on.

Between you and me it was arts and crafts.

Supercenter over here.

It is fun to be able

to do something that is fun

like that.

It's fun to not

be able to take it so seriously

while also taking it very seriously.

What party could pull off

Jimi Hendrix Star Spangled Banner

the entire version

and have everybody into it.

I'm glad you brought that up.

Good job.

We missed on one spot.

It was a big miss.

At the very beginning

we did

last year at

Jewel

we told the DJ we want to do Star Spangled Banner

but let's do like a montage.

Let's mix it up.

Staple 10

Hendrix you can mix in

Whitney and stuff like that.

He went

basically Hendrix straight into Staple 10.

No big deal.

It turned out good.

We had the same conversation with the new DJ

at Drace

or Soleil.

No problem.

I got you.

I know exactly what I'm going to do.

I think we even said not the whole Hendrix.

But with that confidence

you're like oh man he's got this handle.

He knows what we mean.

Well then it goes in

and first of all

nobody, that was the first time

that that song had ever been played.

Nobody's ever listened to the whole thing.

No one can make it.

It's like trying to watch Space Odyssey

all in one sitting.

It gets to a certain point

and it's borderline disrespectful

at a certain point.

This is about to change.

It's going to change

and then it just got into like

I'm looking down

I would want to crawl out of my skin.

But I'm as close to you

as I was the DJ.

I'm standing on the side and I'm trying to make eye contact.

He did a great job.

But this son of a bitch

he knew exactly what he was

because he tried to basically hang his head

in reverence.

It's not an eye contact kind of thing.

I'm like

I can stare through your soul right now.

I know you know that I'm looking at you

because you're not doing what we said

and he just hangs in there in the whole thing

place. That was not intended

because nobody would do that.

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I was thinking to myself

this is wow they're going to go for it.

They're doing the whole thing

to do what was going to happen

and I was like alright they're not going to fade out.

No, they're not.

That falls under the good idea of bad execution.

So we're not doing that again.

We're not even going to mention Hendrix next year.

Well, my original point being

you guys

you've set the bar for

entertaining and unusual

and it was a total success

and Tim comes out and does his thing

which is hilarious in its own right.

By the way, he was going around

the room and I was thinking two things

God, he knows

everybody and I hope he doesn't

make it over to me.

Everybody was saying the same thing.

Courtney came out unscathed

because she wasn't in there yet.

He caught

our wives and they kept

moving back and moving back

trying to get behind the column that was there

and he caught them.

They weren't prepared for it.

She's not a public speaker.

It's just her birthday today too.

Happy birthday.

Like any good hot rod builder would do

I'm here hanging out doing a podcast.

You're working.

So happy birthday.

We're doing the teasing

for next year. There's going to be a

special edition. It's going to be the

Hot Rod Wives podcast.

We're going to have a montage of a bunch of wives

from builders out there in the world

talking about how they can all commiserate

about how

two months leading up to SEMA.

It's a good idea to get that together.

It's a great idea.

It's probably not a positive outcome for us.

Anyway, for the spouses, right?

It's a great idea.

That's what the people want.

You know what this motherfucker did?

The odds are in favor of it going badly.

Yes.

If you had to choose one of the odds

they're probably going to go bad.

You're a concierge.

Let's not do it.

Let's cut it off really short.

Fade them out.

You can always tune in for a train wreck

before you're going to turn into anything else.

Exactly.

You definitely stop and watch the entire car accident, don't you?

Absolutely.

Slow way down.

Get over to that closest lane

so you get the front row view.

Are you enjoying doing it?

SEMA lives, that's still Bud's deal, right?

So you enjoy doing it

or are you still working off a 55-year contract with Bud?

He's got something on you

that he's like,

you got 30 minutes for lunch.

Dude, that is a slave driver.

He's a slave driver.

Bud and I go way, way, way, way back.

Chip and I are the only two people

who appeared in every episode of Overhauling.

So that's a little feather in our caps.

But I love Bud.

I love working with Bud.

He's no nonsense.

I get his personality.

I give it as good as I get it from Bud.

We have a shorthand.

He doesn't need to tell me much.

He knows that I understand his vision

and that I get it

and I know what he wants

because that's kind of what I want to

and I know how to give that.

SEMA Live is a long grind,

but it's really an honor

to fill that role for SEMA

and kind of be the conduit

for the people who aren't able to be there in person.

Yep.

And I love it, man.

And look at the people that I get to talk to.

It's crazy. I'm sitting up there next to Mario Andretti

and I'm like, wow, this is really frickin' cool

that I'm getting asked this guy

basically anything I want.

And we went into the whole history

of his racing

and he's the only guy to win F1

and Indy and Le Mans.

He's a living legend

and I'm sitting there next to him talking.

We had everybody up there,

so it was great.

The only drawback was I had to literally

be in the seated position for like

eight hours a day.

My knees are screaming at me by the end of it

because I'm not able to, you know, flex them

and not being able to see the show.

Those are the only two drawbacks

of hosting SEMA Live.

But other than that, I frickin' love it.

I hope it goes on for the next 15 years

and it allows me to become more involved

with SEMA also.

I had a meeting with the SEMA Action Committee

yesterday and I'm going to be kind of taking up

the yoke

where Leno is leaving off

because he's got so much on his plate

and it will still be called Leno's law

which is great, but I'm going to be kind of

the face of it moving forward.

We're going to be put in the bill

back in front of the California

legislature in 26

and hopefully get it passed through

because it's personal for me.

I just had to smog my 85-911.

And yeah,

well no, it didn't fail.

I had to pay my registration

so they made me go see what's called a referee.

Do you guys have those in Illinois?

It's like a state department

where they really go over your car

inch by inch.

And I'm sure they know what they're doing.

Oh yeah, of course.

But the weather's great.

70 all the time.

It's the weather tax, that's why we live there.

So it passed at the ref

because I knew it would.

It passed at the smog place

and I have an awesome Porsche mechanic

in LA that I work with.

Marco at TLG Auto, shout out to him.

He's the best.

They told me after they passed my car

that I think really what they wanted to do

was have a really good Porsche come in

to kind of set the barometer for now.

So you're not a benchmark?

Yeah, exactly.

Well, I'm honored.

Thanks a lot for choosing my car for that.

But no, so I'm going to be

very involved in the advocacy

of those laws, which will hopefully happen

in 26, if not 27, 6, then definitely

in 27, but it's ridiculous

that these cars that are classics

I think it's 25 years from 1990

and older now are considered

classics. What a mind blow

is that a 1990 car is a classic.

Definitely doesn't make you feel young.

That Grand Am is a classic.

In Illinois it's 25.

Yeah, 25.

Oh, did I say 90? Sorry.

2000 is a classic car.

It's 35

in California.

That's the SEMA

and it's now just SEMA

action, right? Because they dropped the network.

I think I saw something there.

But that group, we've had a lot

of them on the podcast and then

we've met a couple of new people at SEMA.

We've said it a bunch of times

every time we've had anybody.

This has been the best.

The last three, four years, this has been the best

SEMA staff and guidance

and action and everything.

It is a great team.

It shows in the show itself.

I was so impressed with the changes they made

to the convention center itself.

The logistics are handled so well.

You get 160,000 people coming through there

but it never felt crowded.

It never felt like I was waiting

to get

out of there.

I was thoroughly impressed.

Mike Spagnolia is such a great guy.

He's so cool. His whole team is really cool

into it.

They're car people themselves.

That's the difference.

The big difference in the key component.

It is amazing to see the positive changes.

Just being there.

It's a hip place to be now.

That was a trade show years ago.

You were literally going to a trade show

and now it's a bad ass place to be.

It just keeps getting more and more relevant.

It's a FOMO factory.

If you're not there,

you feel like you're gluting

into a live trade show.

Big time details.

What was your

biggest surprise,

if something that is

on the come up or has gotten bigger

than you expected it to be, trend wise

or anything at SEMA?

Much of the show but you could take it in.

Well, battle the builders

was very impressive again.

The young guns category.

I thought it was going to happen this year

that a young gun was going to win the whole thing.

The days of like

and also the young guns.

Unfortunately, there's still that one old fucker

hanging around over the top.

By the way,

my opinion, I love Troy.

Very good friend of mine.

His roadster was unbelievable, well deserved

win but if you win the Amber award

I think that kind of takes you out

of the battle the builders running.

It's too much of a ringer.

You should not be able to win that prestigious

of an award and then enter it into battle

because it was just he

he hedged, you know what I mean?

It's Michael Jordan walking into a high school

correct basketball.

At this point, I'm wondering why they

haven't ran battle the builders to be

debut cars.

That's kind of where I'm going.

It should be its first major competition.

But the C-10 industry

if

you debut at Detroit,

debut at Grand National,

debut at SEMA, debut at Columbus

where he is to show up and win

and spread the love a little bit.

I agree.

The Young Guns category winner with his C-10

that truck was unbelievable.

I think he got your award.

He's coming on the podcast here in a couple weeks.

Obviously Troy and then

Pete who built that 356

did you guys get a chance to get a good look at that?

Yeah, I didn't see.

The slick car.

He put some details in there that were

just unbelievable.

Being a Porsche fanatic,

classic Porsche fanatic, that 356

took the cake for me. I was hoping he was going to win.

356 coupe?

Yeah. I think it started out

as a B

but he tricked it all

out and customized

the hell out of it and it was unbelievable.

It was fourth?

I think it was a coupe.

The thing.

Did you look at the thing at all?

I didn't see it in person

It was kind of bum that I didn't see it in person because

It's mind blowing.

Yeah, and that was one of the drawbacks.

I wasn't able to get a good look at these things.

That's a dude we should reach out to

Ron Jones.

To get him on here.

I don't know what goes on in that dude's head

to come up with those ideas to create that

but that thing is so good.

That might have been the most talked about

vehicle. I mean short of the Ring Brothers

asked him but

got a lot of hype.

I never did see it.

I'm just like you.

I didn't get around much at all at the show

so I don't get to really take it in.

So there was that car and then

Battle the Builders I think is what really

impressed me the most about SEMA.

It's becoming such a prestigious award.

I think it's been going for like 12 years now.

I hosted the first couple years of it

and AJ has been doing it ever since.

She did it with Tanner for a number of years

and then she's doing it by herself now

and just

love

sophistication that these young guys

are coming in with. I mean it's like

they've been doing it for 20 years. It's crazy.

Bobby Allway said it. Troy said it.

Chip said it about all these young guys

who are coming up to like there's a

blowing people away. Yes they have the

advantage of technology but what they're

doing with it is so so special.

Thomas's C-10

like if you were just walking through

a show and saw that you wouldn't know

that that wasn't built by

one of the biggest names out there.

It's like you checked every box

because we went and we looked at that.

That's a truck we looked at pretty good

and everything you look at is

touched, finished, done,

executed. And that's not a truck.

You're talking about technology. It's got some

technology in it but I

hear that. Bobby says it all the time.

I'm really good friends with Bobby

Allway. He always says

that with all this new technology.

Let me tell you,

air tools are new technology.

That's a thing that he says.

There is some builds

and cars that get built that are

overly

complicated and are achieved

by modern technology

but fit and finish is fit and finish

and there ain't technology out there

that can make it paint lay down

and buff it out. Believe me

if there was. Technology can't give you a vibe.

People would own it.

Technology can't grab your soul

and say, look, technology can't

nail stance

from looks.

There's some things that just still take

and that's, I mean, Thomas nailed that.

That was the only thing that that truck

was missing a little bit. The stance?

It had a little low on the back. It didn't sit quite right.

I don't know why that is but

he's coming on the show.

We'll talk about it. He knows exactly

what he's coming into.

One of the other builds

that I was very, very impressed with

was the Chevelle

that Velocity Restorations had done

in conjunction with Dutch Boys

which was on a roaster shop chassis

which was in the SEMA live display

so that car I did

just drool over every single day

and there was so many touches man.

The favorite being

the door handles which I see is a trend now

in custom building. They're using those modern

door handles where they pull

it's no longer a latch release

they pull out like a modern door

and it's such a trick touch.

I don't know how long they've been

doing that in the

custom car world if that's something

new or not but I'm new to it

and it really impresses me.

Kendig kind of came out with that.

Yeah, well his handles are a little

different because they push his in

and pulls out like that but this is where

the whole handle kind of looks like

a traditional handle and the whole handle pulls out.

Have you seen it?

The hand digs you mean? No.

The last one? No.

It's not flush.

It's a handle that looks like

a traditional handle.

Did you see Josh Sanders handles?

I wonder if it's those handles that are on that thing.

Yeah, he's got a whole new product.

He had the charger that was

in HRI

the charcoal one.

And he's a young kid

great shop.

He's been on the podcast

and super talented.

That dude can do everything. Absolutely everything.

Got some new products. Well, his new product

there was this handle

that same thing, it pops out.

I wonder if that's the philosophy of using that one.

We've named it.

He doesn't like the name

but me and his wife have named it.

That's right. What did you come up with?

The love handle.

He does not like the name

but I told him I could see it.

You just got to make the logo, right?

Why he looks so familiar.

He looks just like the dude from Red Clay Streis

the lead singer that Brandon.

Every time I look at him, I'm like,

I feel like I've known you for him.

He just needs to throw the right shirt

and throw some sunglasses on it.

Cool them up a little bit.

That kind of look.

Yeah, that Sanders street rise though.

That handle is really, really cool.

You're not having to screw with the button and all that stuff.

There's the whole handle pulls out.

The way that it feels

and the way that it closes is just so modern

because it looks vintage

and then you grab it and it pulls on

and it's like, whoa, that's unexpected.

When you're doing Seema Live

and you're running through so many different people,

like you said, you talked about Andretti

and you've got people that have done this.

You've got FabGuy Ryan

that's a natural on camera, right?

How much has he paid both of you guys

for these mentions?

It's just protection.

We're using it as protection.

Dude, there's your guy.

My bad.

You've seen Josh mouth off.

You've seen the altercations.

You're like, hey, Sean.

Get him out of here.

You've also got, you know,

newer guys in the industry.

You've got Hot Rod Bill.

You got some people that aren't new in the industry.

Like in Alan Johnson, you got people that are just not

talkers and especially not on camera stuff.

What is the, and you've dealt with this a lot.

What's the trick?

How do you get the flow?

How do you get them to get comfortable?

We just use whiskey.

Whiskey's good.

I've got to bring that up to Bud.

Let's get a couple bottles up there.

Some guys, obviously, are not as comfortable

on camera and speaking,

but I just kind of make everything

as conversational as I possibly can.

So they forget about the cameras

and just have a conversation.

I see through my questions

what they want to talk about.

What they're comfortable talking about.

Mostly it's about

what projects they're working on,

their experience at SEMA.

Those are always kind of easy ones,

but their answers will prompt me

to ask questions that,

I want to get something interesting out of them.

So it's a

case-by-case basis, I guess,

the best way to put it, but luckily

most of the people that we book on the show,

they know what they're

going into and they're prepared

and they know what they're talking about.

I'd say, you know,

8 or 9 out of 10 of the people

that interviewed were very good

and very

comfortable talking to me on camera.

How much prep are you doing beforehand?

I do a little bit.

The producers

are very good in the sense that

they give me like a boilerplate

questions, but most of these people

who I'm interviewing, I know.

So it's just like family reunion

kind of makes it easier.

Shoot the ship for about 10 minutes

and it's great.

I feel so

honored and privileged that they trust me

to do it because

to do what I do at SEMA Live,

you have to be very integrated into

the community.

So it's my honor being just a host

and not necessarily a builder.

Yes, I was on a build show, but I'm not a builder.

The fact that these guys respect me

to talk to me

on their level is humbling to me.

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We've talked about that all the time.

I'm sure that it happens

in other industries. However,

this is the industry that we all know

for so long. This seems

as though it's a unique

that no matter where you are

in a job in this industry, it is

very difficult to bullshit

your way through anything.

And the realness is because of

like you said, you're not a builder.

You've been in this. You can speak

the lingo. You know

enough to have the questions. You know

these people. That's there. Versus

just somebody that's great

on camera that can absolutely

run an interview that is just

reading stuff. If it's going over here

like it's it comes across. We've

seen that on automotive

nobody and nobody in particular.

Up until you got like here to the road

so I thought that was you got here in bullshit.

Didn't you? Wasn't that your whole

tail?

You told me that.

But you got to have like facts

about the bullshit. Yeah, you got

a lot of knowledge.

You have to hide the lack of knowledge

effectively.

But yeah, it's it's it is something

that you can't like fake it.

You can't fake, you know,

honest about like, man, I don't know

how that works. Explain that to me.

But if you're just like completely

you know, fish out of water in this

it's difficult for on the

entertainment side or the host side

or trying to put on a show.

If you have no car knowledge.

Yeah, absolutely. I mean that's

you'd be just

inappropriate to be doing

it. But I have been in situations

outside the automotive world because

I host everything.

So I like to

do just enough research where I can

make it seem like I know

what I'm talking about. You know, even

though I don't and I know I don't but I can

I switch it

over to like a curiosity approach

versus like, hey, let's

talk about this and we I'm gonna

I'm gonna ask you loaded questions that show

that I have a little bit of knowledge about this versus like,

you know, tell me about

this table, you know, where it's like

curiosity versus like, if I knew about this

table, like, oh, this this is an old

train floor, right? Yeah.

And it's a it's two different approaches

and you have to quickly be

able to determine, you know,

if you know what the person

is going to be talking about.

The only guy

who's ever pulled it off successfully that

didn't know shit.

I watched Bob Vila home again.

Yeah, he didn't know

Chicago guy know his

fucking nail from a screw really

we used to joke about it all the time.

How do you know this old house?

Is this a fact? This is a fact.

I used to watch it religiously. I know

my dad would watch it was Norm Abram in the

New Yankee Worm Workshop Norm

can make some shit, right? Bob

they'd follow him through and Bob would be

like, so what are you guys getting ready

to hammer up those those

here and they're like, Bob, these are

we're framing like a wall or

you see we're laying down the asphalt

here, Bob. That's that's concrete

about Bob. That's wet. That's wet, Bob.

And then he's like, there's a ton of blue.

That's like a known thing. There's no

bloopers about it and everything. No

kidding. Yeah, I gotta do a deep dive

on that because I used to watch that show

every week because he was he was based in

Chicago, right? I don't know.

Honestly, I thought Bob Vila would. Yeah.

So yeah, this old house and every

week. I didn't know he didn't know he

would be like that ruins like

my these guys are throwing up that

two by four. That's two by twelve, Bob.

Yeah, absolutely.

Yeah, based in Chicago. There you go.

It auto populated.

Yeah. Oh, Bob Vila is not.

Oh, not. Oh, hi. Sorry.

He is taped. Oh, he taped episodes

there. But where's he based? We're in

1990 via spent time in Chicago

Filming Center for a show home again.

OK, but I used to watch it when I

was a little kid. Yeah.

It'd be like the 80s.

Late 80s, early 90s.

Oh, in 90 he was in Chicago

for Wicker Park.

In 2016, he was involved in a lawsuit

regarding unauthorized use of his name in Illinois.

And you just used his name

without authorization.

Bob Vila doesn't know shit.

Look at that.

Yeah, I'm telling you spends a little time on

if you just put it into you to like

Bob Vila bloopers, I guarantee

that's a whole thing.

I'm there and I witnessed

it firsthand. I like that.

So we talked about

I was going to say, let me turn the tables on you guys.

What were some of the builds

that surprised you guys at SEMA?

The young young guys

stuff for sure. Yeah. Because you're just

not used to seeing them

in such a short amount of time like

I felt like for us anyway, it took a long

time to build up

to get to that level like

you hit these milestones of like

you get your fabrication to a level

and the next thing is like you start figuring out

how to get some machine parts incorporated

in your build and then your budgets kind of go up.

You get the right customers and these guys

it's like, dude, you guys are, I mean, you haven't been

alive long enough to kind of go up

like the stair steps to get there.

Now they're jumping steps. They're leaping stairs

right off the bat. They're like that level.

Carbon fiber and perfect panel gaps

and custom

billet parts and 3D printed parts

is right and the look is right. That was probably

the thing that caught my eye

the most.

I didn't get to just like you. I didn't really

get to see the show. We ran through it when you're doing

the award stuff to check the cars, but like

I couldn't really get a

vibe for what was what was

new, what was going on and get to the new product

section. Yeah. I never made it

out of Central Hall. Walked right past all the

damn trucks. I didn't see I did

I missed totally missed Toyota tread pass because

I missed that. I was going to try to see it Friday

afternoon, but they started

rolling it up like three o'clock

on Friday. So I totally missed that.

One other build that really impressed

me was Jason Engel, who also

was on a Roadster Shop chassis.

I can't remember the name

what he trick rides. Yeah.

That Mustang that he built. It was in the

TMI booth.

Yeah, the black one. That was

wild. That was really nicely done too.

Yeah.

We talked a little bit about it with

Ryan and Hunter the other day. More so

than builds my biggest, I guess

surprise or not surprise take

away and surprise from SEMA as

a whole was more

about the

or the attitudes, the

positivity.

It seemed like

I've never

across the board from

an old builder to a young builder to everybody.

There was not that

that like underlying

drama animosity or

this was going on and these guys were bitching about

this or this. Everybody

across the board was so

overwhelmingly positive.

Support.

It was like everybody fed off of it

and like started Monday more. I mean Tuesday

morning when it started and in it just like

it snowballs and it kept going. Everyone

like was so happy

and on the attitude side talking about

the younger guys. We've had a lot

of them on the podcast. We're going to have some more of them on

the skill level absolutely

and these things go hand in hand

because it

Karma always works itself out.

These guys have

some of the best attitudes. They might

all be horrible people behind the scenes

so we're just talking about what we've

interacted with them. But when they've been

on the podcast you talk about

some of these guys built his own wedding ring

for his wife.

They built his own house.

Then this guy built his own. The talent that

they've got. But the humbleness

is something that

as long as we've been in you always run in

those guys that

no faults of their own

they want it and they want it now

and when they don't get it now then it's somebody

else's fault. So you get

like screw this guy and he's taking this

start getting those animosities and those clicks

and they're like these are

just like I'm trying

I'm going to do the best I possibly can do

there's enough jobs out there for everybody

and if you like what I did great

if not like I'm not trying

the just it's so wild

to see in a good way

the attitudes are amazingly positive.

Yeah and I'll go back to battle the builders again

as an example all those guys

you know I think they had over a hundred

submissions to begin with and everybody was

kind of like rooting for each other it was so

cool to be a part of battle the builders

and you're right the attitude is

excuse way more positive than it does

negative I didn't feel any negativity

anywhere in the show it was just everyone was

so stoked to be there because it's such

a cool show and

you said that you know yeah it used to be

a trade show now it's a it's an event

it's like you can't party it's

everything it's like

if you weren't there you'd feel like you missed

five years you know a hundred percent

yeah and it's

not that there's been horrible things

happen in the past but you know you get

the you get in in the past it seems

like you've you've kind of gotten in your

pain and you've worried about your own stuff and

it's easy to be like you know hey that's

you just kind of start putting those

and it's obviously the world and everything that we

going through in the last this was the

I mean met the best most

positive experience

that I can remember at SEMA ever and I

just I hope that

that continues that's because it's good

for everybody yeah and once again

the Roadster Shop booth was like the center

of the universe I mean it's amazing you

guys have the best booth

keep improving it every year and and this

year was such a grand slam because you had

all of those beautiful

builds surrounding your booth and to do that

multi-car reveal

was amazing very

very cool effect and all those cars were

just tops I mean

I think that was my favorite part of the show is just seeing like

the diversity this year

like in the past it's just a ton of

first-gen Camaro's or Chevelle's

I mean there was international

scouts

Marino's

Allen's 80

anyone 80

C3 Corvette

man was that cool all types

Aston Martin I mean just all types

of different stuff to kind of I think breathe

a little bit of fresh air into the

industry definitely yeah

well we were talking a little bit before we started

how you know the father time

is undefeated the the you know you

hardly ever see the 32's

and 34's anymore you see much

fewer tri-fives now

you're seeing all those late 80's early 90's

cars really coming into vogue as

customs and it's it's cool

to see it is it's cool

but it also everything

comes back around as well though because

for me personally

like I got that black 29

5 window

coupe down there that's in the lobby is mine

and I've like I've just come full circle

it's what I started doing it's what I

loved back like when I was

16 17 18

and now like after

20 something years of building like high

end muscle cars and

modified muscle cars like to me it's

that's kind of I'm like really geeking out

on really bitching

nostalgic hot rods yeah I don't

know if that's maybe I'm

a little different case just because I do it

for a living I don't know if it's

that way it is guys but it

it definitely seems like it could

trend it could I mean you know

the younger generation might come back to

those certainly I just see

less of those building history

at the same time so many of those

have been done also

that it's almost hard to you know

do many better than the examples

we've seen yeah I mean I think

Jeremy's right though the pendulum always

as far as it swings one way

and it swings back the other way and

people are down different timelines so

you know depending on how far you swing

one way you're going to be

swinging back this direction as somebody

still swing in that way of reaching

the height of pro touring or whatever it is

but everybody does because

in a nutshell

psychologically automotive

aftermarket enthusiasts

are

individualistically

tribal yeah so

you want to be individual I want to be

my own person my own creativity

drive my own thing with my

and that I created with my own mind

however as long as I can be part of the

automotive tribe

different automotive tribes if you're a

non-car guy I don't care if

you understand it because

you're not a member of my tribe

but you want to be individualistic

so as soon as your individual

group inside that automotive tribe

starts to get a little bit bigger you're like

oh shit I'm not much individual anymore

let me find the next thing that's just the way

it is you bounce

around to the next thing you're trying to keep going

trying to keep going trying to keep going it's not

that you just want something to be

different but it's psychological

like man I've done those five things

that's what's the next thing and you're like man

I haven't even thought about vintage

hot rods in 15 years

I haven't been on you know the ham

I haven't been on jalopy journal I haven't like

I used to know everything about like what's the best

flathead and what's the best this so you

start getting interested in the things again

and you start going that direction

because it is different it's new it's

exciting it's something to learn over again

for the young guys I guess it's it's hot

riding history too like they should know their

history and you know I guess every young builder

should do a 32 you know and do a try

five you know just to say that

you know I've I've covered that genre

but I do send I do

see the trend as being

that like I said

before we started a

50 year old now whatever car

he coveted in high school absolutely

is the one that he's going to want to turn into a

custom today never fails

yeah never what your parents had

or what you had right growing like for me

like I mean I had a grand

national and I sold it for five

grand more than I bought it for and I thought I was the

smartest guy in the room but that's really

literally the one that got away for me like I

would never sell that car again because

I had it I love that car in high

school it's my favorite car in high school

and if I still had it and it was totally

stock you know

I would I would never sell that car again

because that was the one but you might

drive it now and be like

are you serious oh they're terrible

you know they're typical GM

car and the whole you know interiors the same

as every other GM car was produced

that time but if I could afford it

I would love to turn that car into something like

what you guys have down the lobby and that's

but you're that holds true across the board

that goes across every automotive

genre because I mean

imports the

you know Supra the s2000

those cars are coming

like and those values are skyrocketing

and it's of the same era

you know as Fox body

as you know third gen Camaro as that

late 90s early

late 80s early 90s

go into exotic cars and look at what

you know late 90s early 2000s

you know some of the rare rare

it's going it just goes all the way across

the board at that 45

to 50 year old

of when that is the cars

the same way those are coming up

and up and up and up and we see them crossing

Mika Mokshin block all the time and they're going

for these crazy prices because there's a dude

who's like wow that was my dream car

when's the last time you sent a 300Z

X twin turbo T top car

they completely disappeared

I didn't even know what that is

to be honest with you

what is it

300Z T top car

with a twin turbo

had been like a 95

kind of V

let's see

what makes it

the Iraqish looking

oh it's

yeah looks like a little like

there it is right there

ooh check out the blades on that

when those came out

those were so futuristic

those were like the first car with the

flushed headlamps and

just that kind of real wind tunnel

friendly look get a side profile

of those wheels

like the

3000 GT

there was a

Mitsubishi 3000 GT VR4

which is the all-wheel drive

at one of the cars and coffees the other day

like Chicago Motor Cars or something brought up

it had like

1800 original miles on it

and you look at it and you're like holy shit

and you walk up and look at it and you're like

yeah I remember these

but those things are like that stuff's coveted

Mitsubishi clip stuff and the all-wheel drive

you know that those things are bringing

big money in that it's all the same era

has a Subaru SVX car on yet

no a Subaru SVX they made

they made three of those worldwide

that was a full-blown exotic car

you remember the Subaru SVX

no it was the half glass

the window rolled up into the window

it's a weird car

every time my 3000 GT story

where those like have such a

memory

you mean geese

I'm unfamiliar with those

1989 Subaru SVX

that is a

spaceship

I had one buddy in middle school

his mom had one

we would sit out in front

and wait for him to pull up

because literally it was like it's a Subaru

there's a lot going on

in that car

maybe that explains why I coveted a Ford Pro GT so much

look at those stuff

there are other lines

and you guys could build

a chassis for that car

I'm a purist

I'd keep it stock

what's your 3000 GT story

when I was a kid

I had a girlfriend

that car was early 90s

this is on your wife's birthday

that's fine

and her parents were incredibly wealthy

they lived in this beautiful

super modern like crazy modern

home

giant circle drive

in Riverwoods

so she had two older sisters

the sisters were probably like 6-7 years older

maybe a little older than that

we won't go into names

people don't want to be named

she shared her birthday with Michael Jordan

yes she does

still to this day I remain friends with her

older sisters

back when I was a kid they looked like playboy bunnies

they were smoking hot

like unbelievably fucking gorgeous

and the dad bought a matching

3000 GTs

so there's a young Jeremy Gerber

standing there at a pool party

and watching these two girls come out

like the hair is all

permed up and stuff in that era

getting into these 3000 GTs

and I'm like it is like watching a porno

it was cool

things went into slow motion

oh my god what's going on

moving into stereo started playing

white umbros on

good thing they weren't dude

but I'll never forget

like that car to this day

indelible memory

people don't forget

what pushed you into the

portion of the air cooled stuff then

my dad always had 9-11s when I was growing up

so just always were

very warm fuzzy feeling

and

so we used to shoot overhauling down in

Irvine for a couple of seasons

and it was a 50 mile drive from Burbank

where I lived down to Irvine

and so at the time I was driving this big

heavy Dodge Magnum

that foos had put 20 inch wheels on

and it was like I felt every single bump

in the road and it was just you know

magnums are rattle boxes to begin with

so I needed a little zipper car

and so I was thinking about

a Z car and I opened up the auto

trader remember those

so I was standing in a 7-11 by my house

open the auto trader

and he said

I didn't even buy

the auto trader I pulled out

I saw an ad for an 85 9-11

which is what I have

and I dialed up the number and just so happens

the guy lived in Laguna

which is next to Irvine

so I drove there during lunch the next day

and the guy answers a door

and he was selling it for his dad

who had had it in Palm

Desert as his like winter car

and we went back

and forth and I got it for a great price

I think I got it for like 19 grand back then

right this in 2005

and I saw

the guy that sold it to me at SEMA

like two or three years later and he's like

yeah you still got that Porsche I'm the guy

that sold it to you and he was expecting me

like oh no I flipped it and made five grand

you know and I said dude

I will never sell that car I love that car

with every ounce of my heart

and that guy who sold me the car

you know him it's Reed Morales

who is now my brand manager

he also reps Christy Lee and Faye and yeah

and so we just

became friends after that

and several years later

this is probably 10-12 years ago now

he said I'm starting a management company

and

and I said well you know I brand manager

that I could use you

and so we struck up a partnership

back then and we're friends

we're production partners and he's my brand manager

and that's awesome

I think that's a hobby

can do that

yeah right

what other hobby has

we've heard those stories

maybe golf

which is my other obsession

golf?

you think you buy a set of clubs from a guy

off a fucking facebook marketplace

and then he turns

he's giving me my golf

he's giving me my golf manager

not gonna make any money

for that hobby you're not over there

making those kind of connections

no but you make a good point though

this is kind of the only hobby

industry where something like that

and then the stories are wild

because it could be years or decades later

and it comes full circle

and we're like oh my god we know each other

yeah you bought that rare

often house or intake

and then it turns into a

it's just wild

we've heard so many of those stories

about a car

or a love of a car

or a hunt for a car

a conversation that comes up about a car

the stories of being on a plane

and he's like oh I see you're looking at so and so

and so are you into cars

and then by the end of the plane

now it's a business partnership

and they start a company

it's the great unifier

the love of the car is unique

in the fact that the automobile

is so diverse

but one guy can love

air-cooled Porsches and another guy can

love Mopars

and they can relate because

it's four wheels and a steering wheel

and that's really the essence of it

and that's what brings us all together

that's why SEMA is...

I didn't think

Mopar guys could like anything but a Mopar

no it's true I am a living breathing example

and I guess it is

because of my dad

my brother's had cool muscle cars

and that's where my love of muscle cars came from

and my dad had Porsches

and that's where my love of Porsche came from

but they speak to me equally

in different ways

obviously I think where they cross over

is style

Porsche just nailed it from the beginning

with the 356 and then into the 911

they just nailed style

and there's different versions of that style

and of course Mopar

just I mean

it's like licorice

you know if you like Mopar

you really like

Mopar

I mean Chevy guys

okay I get it Chevy you got a choice of

ten different brands

Mopar you got two

do you like licorice?

I hate licorice

I'm a chocolate guy

it is funny though

back to the car thing

the equalizer is

there's times

if you don't know somebody say it's a social media thing

right or you is a celebrity

or it's somebody that you hear about something

and then you see

that you know they've got a vintage car

they're a car guy you're interested in like

they've got to be cool then

even if there's been times where it's been

somebody that I've like

generally disagreed with on stances

you know they've never met the person whatever

and they're like oh fucking dude's crazy

you're like oh

maybe I mean he's probably not that bad

right maybe we should at least have a conversation

he can't be that fucking stupid and also be into

these cars you're like it's a pretty cool

Camaro yeah exactly

that's true almost all the time like 99%

of the time that 1%

the guy's probably driving the red

Callaway C7

convertible and I'm at dinner

with them no well yes

it's gotta be red it's gotta be red

yes I think the perfect example

of what you're talking about is Kevin Hart

like Kevin Hart you look

at him you'd never imagine he was a car guy

and then you and then you find out oh he's

got these cool customs and then you

discovered the level

to which he is a car guy and you're like

wow that is very cool

because you know it's all walks

of life and then you

you see the builds that he has commissioned

and it's all just the

highest quality stuff yeah

really cool stuff I've

I've made it like a

personal

thing even through this podcast and conversation

we've had we've talked to like

Rogan about it as well

I'm trying to find the common

thread like what's

there's gotta be something that

ever that that

what makes you the type of

person that is so into

automobiles

or vehicles or in I don't care

about style I don't care about old new

that's just for it's a former transportation

you know there's sports

and there's hobbies and there's crafts

and there's all kinds of things that you

you're creating something you're doing something you're doing

also but cars is just it's a it's a form

of transportation and it's art

right I've

I've never been able to kind of like nail

or anybody else explain of

like we had this type of person

you know from a psychological

standpoint or the way you were born

or where you were raised or where this stuff

probably would lend you to be into

those types of things you know

you know warshack test to see yeah

that's I think it's like if you

say it's art it is art but it's like the most

visceral art

functional yeah like you

can't you look at a painting it's beautiful you can't

just make any sound just hangs on the wall you can't

open it you don't you turn it around and look

behind it and it's there's nothing there

there's so many facets I

agree and people can be obsessed with

different areas only like the looks

of the style never drive it

other guys want to drive the wheels off of it

100% other guys want to build it

I uh some of the driving thing I

would come to that too and ask a question

it's a pertinent question to you

I get what you're saying and that's probably

why there isn't a way to quantify it

but if you talk about like

what generally would make

somebody want to join the armed forces

right a man or woman join the armed forces

or branch the military it's generally a

reason it's a couple of things right

it's a kind of longing to prove themselves

they can do it some of these kind of things

right it's common threads among

if you are want to play team sports

in high school and want to go to the next level

sometimes it's just one of the common threads

that stuff I'm just

saying that generally it's all

general I've said it multiple times is

generally speaking that if you're into

a certain type of thing then you fall

into a couple of different categories and

it makes sense of like oh yes okay

you and I are both like this

the cars though

there is no

common thread

you can everybody can get

in for a different reason

some from very young some from

even later in life

sometimes it's I was never into cars

I would I needed to

find something it was the next thing and then

it you know 40 years old

they're hooked

they're bought in and they're a full blown car guy

it's just again I'm not asking for the answer

it's very interesting that there's

it's fun for the whole family it's just

it's just good

you know

I wasn't trying to ask for the answer it's

interesting to

it's unanswerable it really is

it's a rhetorical question at best because

that you just don't know you can't define it

it's the ultimate

you know I do not know I could

I know what it is

but I can't describe it

but every single one

I talk to that is an enthusiast

they can pinpoint

the moment

they can be like I was this age

it was a Sunday

I was in the backseat and so and so drove by

or this vehicle I would read this

magazine I saw that they all

have like the impression

what's funny when you think

like the people who don't they just don't

like I'll drive that

I'll drive that model A around

and that thing I mean it's open headers

like Limefire exhaust it sounds like a

fucking top fuel car and I'll be sitting there

at the light and that thing's just cackling

and shaking and I mean it looks

for young kids today they don't know what

the fight looks like I mean it's an antique

it's crazy it is

and you'll sometimes you'll pull up next to

like it could be a group of dudes in a

landscape truck and they're going crazy

over it but then I'll pull up next to like

two young girl like 16

year old girls or something in a little

SUV and just sit don't even look

over it like I know you fucking here

like it's like it's

shaking your whole fucking car but you

would think just to like wouldn't it

you'd be curious as to what it is like

but it's it doesn't

register resonate at all with some

it's just a vehicle that's there they're just they're

driving they're worried about them and I got

someone with my kids that are driving a hot

ride and we'll pull up next someone came

we'll be like oh there's a guy in a Porsche

there's a guy in a Corvette you pull up next

to him and they're just like this looking

out because he didn't fucking look over

I'm driving a thousand horsepower Chevelle

yeah he's driving a Corvette or a Porsche

he didn't look over not a car guy

it's funny I do this little

thing on on social media that I call seen

on the street and I see cars all the

time you know I do 10 me comes a year I

go to shows like SEMA and Grand National

Roadster show and you know I'm always

around unbelievably high level

cars but if I see a beater

ass 66 Mustang

parked on the side of the road I will

literally pull over jump

out of my car take two pictures of it

and post it and say seen on the street

because it's so cool to see him out

in the wild and it's a piece of shit

compared to what I normally see but I'm so

stoked to see it there

amongst all these cars that look

exactly alike and

it's just I don't know that's I think

that's what it is it's it's like we always

we notice because we're car guys

a million people a day

just drive by that car and don't even

see it it's why the old champagne Toyota

Camry's there's one every

morning on my way to the gym

on a little side street

tiny little house with a little

single car

outbuilding got little carport

well yeah basically there's a fucking

70 Duster sitting there

and it's a little that's a car it's a little worn out

yes it's a little worn out but

it's like I've seen it for

four years I try and I look at it

every single day right and it just

every it's like it I'll never

not drive past there but

you have no idea what the front door color

is what trees what the landscaping

looks like or anything like that but you know

exactly the car that's sitting there

it's that house with the Duster

you talked about you said

something about

you know some people want to drive them some people want to look at them

you mentioned the fact of it being

art

I know you like you and you

talk about the experience you talk about the driving

of it

I saw something today

I think it was from

Spikes

podcast yeah right

first yeah yeah and they were talking

about

I think it was Ronaldo Cristiano Ronaldo

I saw that too he was talking about his car

collection and he doesn't drive how many how many cars

do you have in your collection he's like

you know he doesn't even know right like a real

car guy knows exactly how many

cars he has in his collection he could name

every single one of them what's in them

how many miles when's the last time he drove

them 100% yeah but

my quet so that

he said to his credit

Cristiano said it's

just like collecting art so for him

he might as well be collecting paintings

or sculptures or whatever for him it's just so

is cars so is

he wrong

he's not wrong but he's not a car guy

I think it's an art

collector when you look at that scale of net worth

to him and that yeah he's got enough money to be

right oh yeah I understand but you get to

a point you can do it every one you sort of just

gotta get rid of it I'm not I'm not

taught but he's not gonna have an enthusiastic

conversation about one of his cars in his

collection he's just gonna be good yeah I

have a I have a mercy a logo

that's gold plated you know yeah but

it's and yeah it's for one of us probably

gold labor

yeah exactly I was not

you know the specific case of just him

and his collection it was more of a jumping

off of there is a lot of

collectors out there that would consider

themselves car guys and they know

the details and they know the facts and

they know the history and however

their enjoyment comes from

knowing those facts and looking at them

and seeing them and not driving him and

those guys get a lot of shit because they don't

drive them and if they're getting the same

enjoyment that we do

out of driving it I have a hard

time saying that they're doing it

wrong I'll give you a perfect example

Mekum and Kissimmee in January has a

collection of Ferraris going across 46

Ferraris to Alpha Romeo's that were owned

by this guy Phil Bachman that's the

yellow yes the yellow collection

he he was proud of the

fact yeah there it is right there

he was proud of the fact that his

cars were so low mileage

and his friends would all be like Phil

put some miles on these cars man enjoy

them he's like hey I'm gonna enjoy

my cars how I want to enjoy them

and so he really is the perfect example

of a real car guy yeah who

enjoys the cars the way he

wants to enjoy him he's the kind of guy who

could tell you every single speck about

every single one of those cars he still

has the very first Ferrari that he bought

yeah he got 2F

50s

I'm sorry 2F 40s because he got one

from the factory and one from the dealership

he wasn't sure the factory was going to be able to get

him one he got on the list but he wasn't

sure he could get one so he went to the dealership

they both came back and said yeah we got

you when he goes I want them both

we had a similar problem but neither delivered

yes

but he is but Bachman

is a perfect example of what you're talking about

and I just I see a lot of that

you know the negativity side

of like oh if you're not putting miles

on them and you're doing this you're not a car guy

and you're not doing you're doing it wrong right

we see the same thing in whiskey all the time

oh you're putting it on ice you're not you're doing it wrong

or you don't like this or you're not drinking it

you're just have it up there on display it's like

whatever the hell you want exactly we went to

that scott's buddy

were we in Nebraska

we swam by his place

the transmission guy just the most

unsuspecting collection you're doing

he bought

one of our customers the guy who owns the grand national

we went to the wheel hub event

you can turn that off now by the way

we're racking him over

we go to that wheel hub event and then we left

a little early and our customer is like oh bro

i got a friend who's got a car collection

let's go check it out

well his friend with the car collection

bought like an old department store

he was like here came our

150,000 square feet

i'm guessing something like that

and it is

immaculate

flawlessly restored muscle cars

displayed just beautifully

and i mean you name every

bad at hemicutas

like big mopar guy

one of every color in 70

and then one of every color in it

crazy stuff

you know they're not getting driven

he's a fucking car guy

he enjoys the shit out of him i'll bet

that enjoyment

he's got a bar sitting right in the middle of the thing

and that's probably the enjoyment

i mean you remember

we were all kids

follow with me

it's similar but different i get it

but being kids

with hot wheels cars

and there was kids

that would come over and they would want to run them on the track

and bash them into each other

and then there was i'm like

we can take them out of the package and look at them

but let's not bash them into each other

i like looking at them

i like looking at the details

and i like keeping them nice

i used my dad's side cutters

and i cut all the fucking roofs out and i modified them all

customizing

but just using it

to like play with and like

be destructive

you're still in the cars

but it's kind of the same thing

if you're enjoying it

who's to say that you're doing it wrong

the barometer is

a car guy

a car guy can have cars

and drive them or not drive them or have one car

you're a car guy because you're passionate

about automobiles

you can have this

unbelievable collection

and just be like

not really know about it

you're collecting

for the sake of collecting

you're not collecting based on passion

that's the difference

it's the same exact mentality

and while we're on this subject

car guy is a car guy

passionate

he's getting his enjoyment the way

he wants to get his enjoyment

same shit can be said for all the

built not bought bullshit

it's funny that they're not a car guy

because they got enough money

to have somebody build them a car

you're not as much of a car guy as me

because I would build it myself

by the way that's pretty fucking frugal

because to buy something

is a lot more economic than building something

we all know that rule

I hate seeing that shit

I can't stand to see that

I can't stand being criticized

for buying instead of building

I hate that

okay this guy's got six cars

that's 60 years that would take

to build those all himself

like

and he's enjoying the shit out of them

I'll never

I can see why they say it

I'll never agree with that

and we make our living doing that

we make our living building cars for customers

to enjoy them

the must be nice guy

exactly I was about to say that

that's a certain genre of the passion

so there's guys out there who just enjoy

the process

of seeing these cars being created

and kind of being the general contractor

of these cars

maybe they're dabbling into themselves as well

but to be a high net worth

individual and to be able to build a car

like what you guys build

is a section of the passion

in and of itself

there's other guys who just go

I want it immediately and this is what I like

I just got everything that I'm into

and I want to have that car immediately

whether you want to drive it or put it away whatever

but it's all based on that passion

for the automobile

just do it

I don't think we've ever discussed

but let's say

that unlimited budget

what goes in the Henning car collection

what's the first purchase

H2

unlimited budget

but you've already got the H2

and you already put the chrome rims

and all the little accessories

you've got the train horn

chrome handles

at this point don't you think if I had unlimited budget

I'd already moved to the EV

why would I still be riding around in the fucking H2

what's the

the showcase of the collection

that's an H1 alpha for sure

if I'm going to Hummer

with the machine gun

I still have the itch

to be scratched is I want

for Rambo Lambo

I want the LP

2000 or whatever the thing is

that's going to be the first car you go out and buy

that's the first one

car

killing machine

in between alpha mobile

car wise

and then you're taking it just straight to the dealership

Lambo dealership to make it work

that's one that you won't drive

I don't want it

I want that built

I want that

I think that build would be really cool

I don't want to talk to Bobby about that

Bobby wants to do it

he's a Lambo guy

that's the next

that's the next Aston Martin

that's the next groundbreaking holy shit

that's a game changer

that's 100% a game changer

50 cal mounted on

you're not building it like Rambo

would have it you just use that name

to describe the vehicle

it's not the Bert Reynolds Lambo

it's the Rambo Lambo

I got it

because he owned one

that's why they called it that

Stallone had one

the

first thing

I'd probably

have to have a pretty

Ripper split bumper Camaro

really

70 trans AS 70

but something with some history

like a Baldwin motion

or like a drag car

no like a trans

am car

race car

I love the

second Jim Camaro

I always say 70

it's a pinnacle year

Ferrari, GM

almost every manufacturer

you can point towards the 70

to say that this is their absolute pinnacle

I say it all the time I meet them

I'm a 70 model

so I'm partial

but I love 70 Mopars

I love 70 GMs

70 GTO

is unbelievable

70 Mopars are split though

because the big bodied ones

the Roadrunner I think they lost it a little bit

in 70

body style is one year only and then it changed again

in 71

70 Cuda champ

first year for the really awesome

e-bodies you know the challengers

and the Cudas

but I like

the Roadrunner from the 70

all squared up and stuff

I like the 60's

68, 69's are the class

those are the ones everyone goes for

I kind of like the 70's in the Roadrunner GTX

just because they're less popular

maybe is why I like them more

but certainly a 70 Camaro

I just love that body style change

that's what I love about the manufacturers

back in the 60's too

you look at the Corvette

it changed subtly

every single year of its existence

from 1953 all the way through

the C2's

through 67

there was

if you know what you're looking for

you can easily tell the difference between

a 63 and a 67

if you know the body cues

and same thing with the Mopars

there were little touches

they never rested on their laurels

and said we're just going to put the same car out again

and that meant back in those days

changing everything

you had to change all the stamping for the sheet metal

and everything

I know right exactly

I'd have to buy the green 69 Camaro

George's old car

I'd have to have that

okay

and I'd have to have the 57 post

from Bob Johnson

good looking car

I'd have to have a 56 Chevy

two door post

the black that I want to do

you also got to have one of those

good guys visors with the hair sticking out

this is going to be your car collection

those individual cars

I'm not talking about 57 Ford

I'm talking about that car

you shop in the merch department at car shows don't you

get the Hawaiian shirt with the bell airs all over

there's a very particular

it's the only active subscription to

auto trader

there's four pages thick nowadays

I had to go get at the PO box

I don't fold it

there's a very specific

56 post

that I want

very specific build

a couple have been built

they've come close but

I want a sleeper

down in the nose

but with what

the tri-five Chevy's

they could

be the perfect

size vehicle

for a build

for a build the way you would want to do a build

for a usable vehicle because they got

all the hood room to do

anything you want to do

you can sacrifice the back seat

to do whatever you want to do in the back

100% but even like seating

you got all 502 in there

you've got all the room

it's a great size

car to build

to do

you could have 1200 horsepower in that

and make a road tour car

with power windows and have cold air

and it's sit like it's not

been touched for 40 fucking years

and go around corners

you could do all those things with that car

you don't have any constraints

in like interfenders

you don't have any constraints under the hood

you don't have any constraints from oil pan

blower

aerodynamics

do you just overcome it with another couple hundred

a couple hundred horsepower will take care of that

but it really is a

I like

67 Chevelle as well

but those have more challenges to do

a lot of things that you would want to do

not that you can't be overcome

but I think a 56

that looks like it

doesn't do much

but does a lot

would be on my list

do you see the one that Mark Warke had at

black one with the blue interior

yes I did

he's got

good shit

do you know Mark Warke from Amarillo

no

he's a cool dude

but he's a guy that just

everything he has

is fucking cool

he's known for the

he's been to Corky Coker's place right

I have not been to Corky's place

and he was on Seema Live

this past

earlier this month

so you've seen pictures of his

you've seen the Indian

seen the big Indian neon

so that was a two sided sign

so Corky Coker has one

Mark Warke and Amarillo has the other side

and it's in his place

that's cool

but it's Amarillo

it's dry

middle of nowhere he's got all these buildings

he's got body shops

but you go out just in the boneyard

stuff of projects

and it's like

seven fucking badass trucks

that all could be great

and then you see these carnival rides

that he's bought from a traveling

carny place

that's fucking cool

that rocket ship would be great hanging on the wall

everything that he has

it's a great reason in a place

you're like oh I could see why you'd buy that

I wouldn't have ever bought it

but now that I see you have it

it's fucking cool

I've tried to buy many of things that I couldn't

because Mark had bought them before

you go to any swap meet in Texas

and you're looking like oh that's a badass

like gas station sign

or something new

how much is that

oh that's sold Mark just bought it

25 times it's happening

he bought that

he buys cool

that little section of the industry is unbelievable

because before the cars go

Mekum always sells what they call road art

the prices are unbelievable

these guys are as

into these means and pumps

as they are cars

to build out their mancapes

yeah I've seen

talk about Mekum some

you've been doing a lot with Mekum

we have

channels Dana

he's actually got a chassis

for his truck

but I've never

never spoke to or never broke Brad don't know the man

yeah he's local

Lake Geneva right?

let me tell you a story about Lake Geneva one time

my brother in law

and I were up this was probably

this was during COVID so 2020

we drove up to Lake Geneva

and we're walking around the lake

and in between the lake and the houses

there's this path that you walk along

there's all these boat houses

and we come to this one boat house

and in the boat house is all this

Automobilia

and I'm like oh this guy's gotta be a car guy

we're looking in there and he's got

valve covers and miniatures and everything

and I googled this house

and somehow I found it

and it's Dana's house

and it is spectacular

yeah I've seen the house

yeah so it's big green

stylish style house and he's got this

pool house and I guess underneath

the pool is his car collection

yeah in there so there's a video I think

somebody did a video tour of it

on YouTube somewhere

a family friend was there for some event

and sent me some pictures of the

yes subterranean

so I emailed him because I had his

email this is before I started working

this was in between my working for Barrett

now working for Mika and I emailed him

like dang I can't believe it I'm outside your house

come up and y'all check it out

I mean your pool dude

right now my guy can jump in the pool

he is

so down to earth

and salt of the earth and he is

a pure car guy

like he knows he's got such a

depth of knowledge in an unbelievable

car collection and he has just

managed to find

a niche in the industry and just

crushed it crushed it I mean those

guys crush and again I did Barrett

Jackson for six years I was in that world

I've been in the Mika world

now for the last four years about to

go into my fist starting in January

and I can tell you that I so

much more enjoy Mika

not only because there's more of them

but their clientele are

more real car guys

it's not so much like

a show like Barrett Jackson was

Barrett Jackson was a blast especially

Scottsdale I loved my Barrett Jackson

experience but Mika

I feel so much more like a car guy

okay at Mika

and I just I love

the community I love their clientele and the

focus is on the cars

and you really feel that at the Mika

he's been doing amazing

I'm sure him and his staff and all that

the

when you think that like well there's nothing

left to sell the new

rare one of rare connection

or collection and this things

going and then this like

me in January is going to be

Seinfeld's car well that

was unbelievable the 917

was an unbelievable experience

he lands

heavy hitters yeah the

heaviest I mean we just saw that little clip of the Bachman

collection I mean that that's

an unbelievable collection and that's one of

probably five or six

off the charts collections that are going

the Bianco Especiale the

only white factory

250 GTO is going

at Mekum Kissimmee that thing is

going to be just you know

yeah I can imagine what that's going to be

what the 917 go up to I know

it did sell after 26 mil

at bid to and then

it sold Jerry sold it afterwards

I mean it was the whole the way the whole thing

came to be and was executed

was kind of genius

you know between Jerry and Dana the

the podcast I watched

of Jerry them

them trying to get all the details

bikes and then Jerry

given what he was going to give

that was they did it so well

you're like you didn't tell me what happened

but I know what happened

and just that the provenance of that

particular 917

and just the 917 program

I mean once that car hit there was

I mean they just blew

the competition out of the water from 1970

on if Porsche had stayed in the mall

they would have won it every single year

and now I think there's

V8 or V12

there's a V12 there's two V6's

made it together yeah sorry not V12

flat 12 yeah yeah it was

two flat 6's made it together

and just an unbelievable

car to be in the presence of and hear it start

up and roll by me and

I mean of course I had a front row

seat I was literally two inches away

from the cars it's rolling across the block

and the place was just full focus

on that car it was amazing

I wonder what compels him to sell

that particular car

yeah I don't know I mean I think

he talked

he talked a little bit about that

that it was

just the hunt then the acquisition

and then the ownership

and then

next phase stale yeah

the next phase was thing and

it was you know there was 26 mil

certainly opens up the car buying

budget for some sure

the thing is if you follow like

so until it's really really

cool

and has changed a lot like

he went through a phase

where he's already dumped like

he dumped 90% of his collection

in less than a year

about you know six seven eight years ago

just and it wasn't it was just about

like a refresh of like I've done this

now try so we free up these

and then you acquire the next

step and then he's kind of doing that same

not a lot of cars but

you just rotate through have you been

to

Bruce Myers place

his one downtown yeah

no I have not he's invited

me there and I've been I've been trying to get

down there because I want to see that cobra in person

you need to yeah

we're just have not had the opportunity

we're planning some remotes

right around Grand National

it might do and do one from

there we might do that we've already done it once

we're gonna do it probably do it again

we've done one from his place downtown and

anyway you want to talk about car guys

I mean we just mentioned two of the most famous

and most dedicated me between Jerry Seinfeld

and Bruce Meyer I mean you know it just

Bruce Meyer to me

talk about down to

earth and humble and approachable

and like every time I see him

he's so warm and like

gives me a hug and just I

feel so connected to the

car world through him and he is a legend

just a legend

you know it's it's 200 mile an hour

club and he's just he's the best

we've got to do there's so

many more stories that he didn't get to tell

and

now I think he's like understands

kind of what we're doing we're gonna we're gonna

do it again there so

yeah yeah right

we could turn so yeah we need it

we'll let if that happens

you we're gonna we'll let you know man I would

I would love to come down and crash that

you're gonna say amazing

unlimited budget

that would be my second choice would be

anything in Bruce Meyer's collection

just anything it doesn't matter yeah

he's got the most like just

sexiest like best looking

tasteful collection of cars

I'm surprised he doesn't have a gt-40

like a real gt-40 yeah the only thing he's

missed he's probably hasn't there's not

he told you why why

he says everything's gotta have like a story

he's like a one of rare it's gotta

the rarest it's gotta be beautiful

it's a beautiful car I understand

but if maybe you can't get

the rarest and the

the one he wants so you want to hear a

good rare story that just blew my mind

it's a memory that I will never ever

forget you know guys know Rob Coffman is

right it's Rob Coffman he owns

RK Motorsports in okay okay

talk another

unbelievable real deal car guy

drives his stuff he owns

the 1966 gt-40

Le Mans winner no shit

yeah McLaren and

that's why Bruce doesn't have

one because that's the one he would

want one he should have

Chris Ames and Bruce

doesn't have one the famous story

you know the you know Miles was told

to lay back and they won because of the

starting position all that shit

he owns that car fully restored

they had that the Le Mans

display at Pebble Beach I think

two years ago three years ago

so I kind of know Rob and so

he was standing next to his car and I'm like

Rob can you look he's like

get in you know so he

lets me sit in the car and then

he's like you know what let's start it

so he starts the car

yeah I was just in Dana Meakin's pool

this is fucking awesome

nothing bro

that like

and by the way you know

Ford vs Ferrari very popular movie

right that's a dramatization of what the

actual story was they took a lot of creative

liberties if you want to see the real story

watch Adam Corolla's 24 hour

war that's the real story

with archival footage

unbelievable movie

so and I was

I am so into

1966 Le Mans that race

and you know the subsequent three races that they won

for Narelle last time Ferrari won

was 65 until they won again recently

but that story of

1966 and that car in particular

the number two black car

Rob's got it restored to

race quality I sat in it

he started it up right after I sat in it

and that like to me that's like that's one of those

cars where it's like you feel

the history you're like holy shit

I'm holding the steering wheel that

you know Bruce McLaren was holding

when he won this race and it's

like stuff like that

I just geek out about so hard

you know those those cars

that are because it's the car

that's like the Seinfeld's 917 was

like that you own that car you drive it

what's it oh 100%

that was this car you drive

why not it's a fucking force it was

a race car

it's I understand you can get

you can buy engine parts and Napa for that thing

I'm not I mean it's cool as

shit but I'm driving the wheels

off that car I would

I would drive it but

that's that's a you'd loop

it out yeah that's too much

it's too much car for you dude

I understand your apprehension

I got a similar I got to sit

my favorite hot rod of all

pretty close

oh you've caught a bass before

I caught one that was this big

favorite hot rod of all time Pearson Brothers Coupe

and we're at Bruce Myers

and he's got the Pearson Brothers Coupe

he's like dude jump in it

and I'm like normally I would be like

now I'm like I'm in there just like

touching things it's so

rich and yeah I didn't get to start it

he's got he's got a yellow bird

yep which is

you know pinnacle pinnacle

in the Porsche community pretty much the things

like

it's sensory overload when you're in there

right and he's super nice and there's again

because the only reason he has it

is there's got to be a reason right so there's a story

to everything it's not just like oh yeah

I've you know always wanted a you know

Red C6 Corvette it's

there's a story about every single one of them

and the you have to listen to the podcast

because he did a really really good job

but the Mercedes it was in there that was

Kerry

Grant

yes Kerry Grant

he's got his is it a goal wing

no it's the Ralph Lorenz goal wing

yeah it's Ralph oh he's got Ralph Lorenz

goal wing yes it's Ralph Lauren by the way

I was I was schooled on this one time

it's not Lauren it's Lauren

sounds fancier

it's like a it's like a late

40s early 50s like

mauve pink

Mercedes convertible

and it's it seems very

out of place right but there's Ralph Lorenz

that's why no it was Kerry Grant

always carry grants guy and you're like

you start talking to whatever and he's he's telling us

is like hey it's got to have the prominence

and it's got to be beautiful right so

asking him and so we're like so tell us the story

he's like oh you're Clark Gable

isn't yes

it's Clark Gable

yeah all right you're right you're right I apologize

one of those old school movie actors

yes but it was like a

it was like a 15

it was like a 15 year chase

to get to get to car

right and it was the story was

basically to be able to get it

wasn't so much about the beauty

of the car the time and it is

a good looking car it just doesn't fit

with the rest of stuff but it is

I mean the like then he tells the stories

of like what he used to do in that car

and the word that went around with Hollywood and stuff

yeah he know

that dude knows everything

oh he's about

I mean I would put

him above almost everybody in the

car world as far as the knowledge

the collection such

an awesome guy because you know where

his place is like where the car collection

is it's it's downtown right it's

downtown L.A. somewhere we're not gonna

it was downtown no we're not gonna talk

about the actual location because we

told not to but it if

we'll talk about he lives in Beverly Hills

yes and he's got a bunch of cars at his house

yes but he also has a

if you know Beverly Hills real estate like

have a bunch of cars at your house and Beverly

Hills is well have you guys seen the way

his his garage operates like

you open his garage door and it goes back

like a hundred feet it's crazy

yes but Beverly Hills real estate

like boom and right now is it pretty

it's sizes

it's size of homes and like

to be able to have the real estate to have

that many cars more than one car

yes but no it's

it will he walks

from his house to the shop

okay well that

and the shop is is

we'll talk about yes yes

outside the podcast but I thought it was

downtown but well I want to go

yes wherever it is wherever you guys

are gonna be in January when

please invite when you're parking

and I pray it's not and you're looking at

me you're looking at a sign

and then you're looking at another sign

and you're like so it's so that's where we're going

okay it's wild

all right super fucking cool

and he's awesome covered

yeah all right so Grand National

you're gonna are you gonna be you're gonna be in Cali

for Grand National right well I'm

yes I'm Mikam Kassimi

is like I'm there for

10 days like from

like the 8th to the 18th something like that and

Grand National is like the next week

okay I'm always in town for Grand National

we're either gonna do it I think we're gonna do it

right after Grand National we've got a couple

of different remotes that we're supposed

to be doing yeah trying to work

we're we're

we have a booth at Barrett

and then it's the following weekend so it takes us out

of the shop for a long time so we're kind of

trying to work it all where do you guys

stay when you're in California

well yeah the last time

we went we didn't make

any hotel reservations because that's kind of how

we roll sometimes and there happened to be

some sort of like that's why

Josh's beard and hair is there was some sort of like

dress level remember that there's some sort of medical

convention oh that was when we were going to San Diego

right we get in late and we could not

no hotel we

we went to 40 hotels

and they're like I'm not

I'm not a horrible clean freak

I slept in all my fucking clothes

so I finally Google something

I get a hold of so and they're like

we got purple or it was

was that what it was do not run a black

light in this hotel but they had

they had that just so happened to have

three rooms and they're reasonably priced

too and we go

and we were renting them by the hour

right it was did the side

save free HBO

now but it was one where they gave you the remote when you

check out my my door

like the door knob

the door knob had no latch

right so we didn't latch so you had to

we had to push it and put the little hook in the loop

thing on the top of it like you're in

like you're in a

beach shower

luckily I had flip flops I showered

it was not the worst place I've ever stayed

we generally stay for

historically we've always stayed next to the

the piano bar in downtown

Pomona nice

where's that at

what's the name of that town yep

Pomona is where it's got

it's got another name

Riverside

no it's like it's like an old

town and they got like one little street

got a bunch of cool restaurants and stuff like that

on it it's kind of to the R I thought

no no

there's a piano bar

next to

like a

courtyard a big courtyard

I don't know I drive in

where I live it's a cool little town

whatever the name of it

San Ramon is right there I know but it's not that

you know the town I'm talking about we always

talk about we're going to go to whatever

is the barbecue place on the corner and then

we go to walk to the street

parking I don't know anyway

the piano bar is really cool okay

it's a it's a it's a well known area

if we could think of the fucking city

but I know nobody do

hmm let's get our crack research

team on that for sure have him get back

to us where should we stay at

well that's what

I was asking you guys like where do you stay

in Pomona or do you stay like

and drive in Pomona we'll hang at the

host for a while but

we don't ever stay there usually I don't

really know a lot of Pomona

hotels where are you

at I live in Burbank

okay so yeah so

probably like it takes me like 40 minutes to get

to Pomona but I

that's I love that show absolutely

love Grand National Roadster show that's a good

show yeah go visit Bill and Ted

and San Dimas

how was it getting acclimated from

Glencoe to

Burbank well I mean I've been

in California for

I mean the majority of my life

I went out for college in

88 and stayed out there

ever since so the

the acclimation process was

long but very easy

I mean growing up as a kid I knew

I wanted to go to California I just

I felt it like I just my

parents took me on a vacation out there when I was like 12

and I was like oh wow it's 70 in February

and the air smells like flowers

this is where I want to live

yeah that's

not the case of all of LA but I live

in a very nice little pocket

and so I try not to leave

my neighborhood when I'm home because I enjoy

it so much because you know LA

is very diverse

and there's very lots of interesting and dangerous

places in LA so

I try not to leave my little pocket of

serenity but

I really I enjoy living in California

because of the

so many things to

do and kind of close

to a lot of different things you know you can

have Arizona and Utah

and Vegas and San Diego

and Mexico and

San Francisco and Hawaii is really

close compared

to Chicago so I

love living in California it's definitely got

tons of drawbacks

like the smog laws but

I mean with like we said before

you pay the weather tax yeah you know

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going back to purchasing your Porsche

how fucked up are people

in California that they need a winter home

that's warmer than

well

his winter home was in Palm Desert

Palm Desert have you been to Palm Desert

I have

Palm Desert is amazing

especially if you're a golfer

or just like you know

leisure oh yeah thermal there you go

yeah I mean it's unbelievable

Palm Desert to me

my family's had a house there

forever I mean since I was a

teenager like a young teenager

so it's got a special place in my heart

I love Palm Desert I love going out there

you just feel serene

so

I don't think it's fucked up because

LA is a rat race in Palm Desert

it's like you know chill

you refer to it as like a winter

vacation well winter everybody else

just turns the heat up five

people from Chicago

have a winter spot in Palm Desert

yeah like the New Yorkers go to Florida

everyone kind of Chicago

and west goes to Palm Springs

and Palm Desert the city we stay in is

Claremont Claremont oh yeah

okay it's a silent

R at the beginning it is

I really messed it up

starts with an R but you put the R in the middle

of the work as long as you've been

in the Valley though you can't get rid of the

Midwest or the North Shore

vibe because there's something

about you that I'm like

you feel like a dude

who I like maybe went to high school with

and I'm like oh it's close

you just like click it's like

fucking Midwest and especially the North Shore

you don't ever lose the Midwest though do you

I will always be a Chicagoan

I mean everybody you always hear

like you just don't lose the Midwest

I have the pride I mean I got tattoos

Chicago flag star right there

I got Chicago right here

I love

Chicago I love being from Chicago

I love coming back to Chicago

it feels like home to me

and yeah I mean

it's just it's a mentality

and it's you know I love the sports teams

I love downtown it's like I'm flying

into Chicago and I landed O'Hare and I'm walking

through our hair I'm like

I'm home yeah even though I don't live here

I'm home

I've been here since 1970

it's a tough city

to be man I mean we

I was out there last weekend we go out

we're like foodies me and my wife so we go

downtown a lot we're going out again

tomorrow with you fuckers but

that city

it like it just can't be beat

it's the best there's some ugly stuff

that goes on there but it's

it's the best fucking city in the country

I don't understand why everybody complains

about O'Hare because the amount of airports

going into O'Hare is

easy

it is so fucking easy

when you get wired you know I mean

shit I travel I travel probably half the

year I mean I take at least a hundred flights

a year and so I'm all over the place

far as airports going

you're gonna probably spend some time taxing

at O'Hare

not as much as Dallas but you do spend a lot of

time taxing in O'Hare

Dallas airport suck Atlanta is the worst

I hate Atlanta airport I hate Atlanta

it's a passion

everything that I possibly

can do to not go to Miami's hands down the worst

have you flown into Miami lately

I try not to I try to go to Fort Lauderdale

it's 3,000 miles long

like you have walked halfway back to Chicago

when you get to your gate

it's a yeah it's big

I flew out of Miami when we came back from

last year

it's big but there was no

major like Atlanta just

sucks like there's nothing you can do

to get away from that

Atlanta feels like it's constantly under construction

even though it's not

it still feels like it's under construction

and there's always a problem

Atlanta's filled with problems

before we get to standard questions

you posted a couple of pictures

on Instagram on your fitness

you've got what's the

what's the 250 you're hitting

250 workouts that's my goal for the years

250 I did 240 last year

that's 20 a month and so I

helped it by 10 so I'm trying to hit

250 this year

so you're taking weekends off

it doesn't matter I try to get

either 5 or 6 in a week

and it doesn't matter what days off I take

sometimes like at SEMA I had to take

3 days off in a row so you got to catch up

and do like 6 or 7 in a row

were you at the gym Friday morning after our party

no

I was not

I went twice when I was in Vegas

and by the way what surprised me most

was I got there

on the first day I went to the gym

I got there at 5.45 thinking

I'll just be the only one there

there was at least 300 people in the gym

at 5.45 in the morning

it was fucking crazy man what is it about

Vegas people love to work out

they love going to the gym

our wives came

to the party this year

and so we thought oh no problem

the party rolls out

with this one we went to 1.30

no problem the party's going to be over

well

generally you're more responsible

when the wives are there

turns out not

cause then they were the ones who were like

we're going out

after the party

we laid down to go to sleep

at 6.45 the next morning

see I was smart I did

I left when the award started

I left

cause I knew it was going to be a big rush

I had a zoo getting out of there

and I had to be up at 6

to be ready to go at

8 o'clock

I left and it was the smartest thing I did

so I can't even fucking imagine

we were throwing this big SEMA party

and we made the intelligent decision

like you said as you get older

it's noticeably more difficult to recover

so we made the intelligent decision

that the night before

you know what the best thing to do is

go get a bunch of tables

practice all your customers

and all your best buddies

and just blow it out

and come in at 2-3 o'clock in the morning

just absolutely blasted

Monday night prior to the first day of SEMA

wasn't a great move either

now well that was Vinny's peer pressure

fucking Vinny's always peer pressure

no that was Courtney's pressure

followed by Vinny's

Courtney is a legend

hey

we did everything we needed to do

proved that we could do it

we did but at this age

seeing the sun come up

I have to say

it's gotta be the last time I'm gonna do it

it has to be

there's two ways to see the sun come up

there's one way where you went to sleep

at 9 p.m.

and you're all refreshed

you're like ahhh

if you're still awake

and seeing the sun come up

you feel like the worst

it was a sobering moment

when you're walking into the cosmo

the cosmo has the little balconies

and you open the door and you're like

fuck

the meads in there

go away

me and my wife were

we got in

and then it was like

to open up the curtains

and it was both of us like teenagers

we literally was like oh wow

it's been a long time

that was crazy

well good for you

so you're gonna hit 250

you got plenty of time to hit 250

I'm on great pace

I actually yesterday was

223

I'm obsessive about

my workouts

you guys go to the gym so you know

it becomes a habit and so if you don't go

you're like oh you feel

like you're contracting

it is my solace

it is my kind of

I feel so fucking good when I'm done

with a workout

I do anytime of day

whenever I can fit it in

if I've done workouts at 8am

I've done workouts at 8pm

what's the routine you got

are you on an app

well I do three different workouts

I do one it's a tabata

where it's four different

exercises eight sets

of each one

and then you do 20 seconds

on 10 seconds off

it's a height workout

exactly

and then I do one called 1000 reps

where you do 10 exercises 100 reps

a piece with

light weights

and then 10 pushups in between

each one of those so you end up doing 100 pushups

and then 1000 reps of 10 different exercises

and then I do one called

cardio which is I do a half hour

on the fan bike

fan bike is an ass kicker

and you really find out how long

a half hour is when you're doing it

you think you're going to take half off

you're like oh I'm just going to let the arms do this

and then let the leg

I don't have anything else to do it

it's all about distraction I watch

YouTube I listen to music

just keep your mind off of the fucking clock

that's right in front of you

and then I finish all of them

with 200 crunches

got to get the crunches in every time

and it usually takes me

in between a Tabata takes me

25 minutes with

the crunches

1000 reps takes about 45 minutes

and then the fan bikes a half hour

than another 10 minutes of crunches

you're on it

it's another time

I'm 55 years old it's like if not

now when

fighting that number

I should have started

30 years ago

fuck

go ahead say something

no I wasn't going to say something

I was just SEMA just fucking threw me off

I fell off the wagon

I only missed 3 days at SEMA

only 3 days

missed most of it and then it's tough getting back in the saddle

but it's motivating too

if you miss a bunch of days in the road

it's like you can't wait to get back in there

and get it going again

every single morning

just because I know there's going to be when we're traveling

and doing stuff like that

and it's the best in the morning too

and then your day

you can do anything else during the day

because your workouts and if you're working out late

you're like oh I still got to get this in

I can go at lunch sometimes

whatever

but I cannot lift

in the daytime

if I looked like you I'd be hitting it 7 days a week too

like

no questions

are you smoking on the bike

or while bench pressing

we used to

before they closed this gym

there's a gym right across the street

we used to go together and we'd walk out

and immediately we'd walk up the door

like a cigarette

my doctor told me not to quit

huge pet peeve

he said you just drop if you quit

yeah she said you've been doing it since you're 14

and you drink whiskey just keep doing it

don't fuck with it

it's such an inconvenience

for those around him

it's not an inconvenience

I don't smoke around you

you don't ever smell me smoking

I think it's unbelievably rude

when you just walk out of meals

immediately after

you're not paying attention to the discussion

at the meal anyway so me not being there

you have ADHD

and if I walk out and smoke a cigarette

I'm carrying the whole conversation

well that's the problem

he's turned into Tony so you don't even know he's gone

then you leave and now it's on me

this is Jeremy

not at dinner, I just am spaced out

then I get up to walk out

oh you're just leaving

no I'm not on my phone at dinner

I'm not like a cool person

so then you leave

and now it's on me to engage

and carry the conversation

it's only a cigarette

if it's a long dinner we go to the city

if it goes on for about an hour

I'll pop out

but it's just because you're drinking

you're having a good time

you're cold outside

now when I go out to smoke

in Chicago

if I go out to have one cigarette

I lose, I end up coming back three or four cigarettes like

that's just the way it is

he's foaming

now what are some of your favorite restaurants

in Chicago where do you guys like to go

I like, I mean shit there's so many

good ones but there's a new one

that's badass that's called Acid or Bastion

that's like, it's rated one

of the top steak houses now

but like Bavettes

is killer

don't do an Ed DeBevix regularly

Rainforest Cafe

I've got a friend of mine

that's not a big lawsuit about that

about Rainforest Cafe

there's some killers but I've got a friend of mine

who owns a bunch of chains and stuff

downtown so Nisos Prime

we were just there

we're doing Bizarre Meats

tomorrow night

there's some killer spots

not really

but there's a

what the hell is the name of that other steak joint

that

the RPM Steaks Killer

doing in Lowry's

no, not Lowry's

we all went there together

I'm trying to think of the name of it

RPM Italian

RPM Italian is killer

Gibson's Italian

because the view

you're looking straight down the Chicago River

and it's just killer

Gibson Steak obviously is amazing

Gibson's Italian

have you ever been to Formento's

it's over on the west side of the highway

you know where Girl in the Goat is

it's basically right across the street

from Girl in the Goat

it's my favorite Italian in the city

but Chicago Cut is like

my jam because I love sitting outside

along the river

the patio is right on the river

and they're just old school

feels super like Mafioso

which I love that vibe

I want to go to that I've never been

it seems a little cliche but Jean and Giorgettes

never been

but it just feels like I should

that is old school also amazing

in fact I think of Jean and Giorgettes all the time

because I collect match book covers

that's like on top of the pile

so I always walk by and I see it

and I'm like yeah Jean it's an

old school good feel of Chicago

and what about pizza what's your go-to pizza in Chicago

I'm a Lumo Naughty's guy

I like Lumo Naughty's deep dish

love it too and they can ship those

everywhere it's amazing

you bet Pequod's

that was my mind

Pequod's is good

not exactly like a play like

Pequod's great for a takeout

the pizza itself

it's like

Skokie Niles

well there's one downtown too

the downtown one

and then in the suburbs

Barnaby's

I think we talked about this before

we used to go there with our kids to get pictures of beer

on Skokie Highway

is that the one?

in basically Glencoe and Northbrook

yeah more Northbrook

but you'd go in there

14, 15

I mean it must look like I was 9

they'd serve you a fucking picture of beer

like you'd go in and just

old school

like the water pictures

the plastic pictures the old style

we'd go in there and all our buddies just

drink beer

because you had the

I was 15 because a friend was just

driving so he got a friend who was 16

you'd go in there

take a beer

picture of beer

what kind would you like?

a cold one?

whatever your best beer is

medium to best beer

your least flattest beer

do you have a beer du jour?

I'll take a good one

give me a large good beer

so needless to say I don't really

remember the quality of the pizza

because it was more of a beer drinking

Piquads is an experience

Piquads is all about the crust

thin crust guy though

Uncle Jerry's

really really good

really?

it's a banger

coming from Glencoe

you ever do Buffalo Joes in Evanston?

no Buffalo wings

dude

we have an amazing place

in Glencoe called Little Red Hen

so that's where we'd always get our

pizza and wings and burgers

what was the

what was the breakfast joint over there?

Sarkis

Sarkis dude

I'm disturbed

about Sarkis because one time the cops

came in during school and we all had to run down

in the basement

and there was a bathtub full of meat

in the basement

and I was like oh that

it really

I'll never forget that image

and I'm like oh that's what I've been

for the past how many years

I mean Sarkis is a legendary place

what was the name of the breakfast joint

you always used to talk about eating in Elgin

because this morning at the gym

they were doing this special on this

place the wooden booth

American diner something I don't know what it was

it was a name

Baker Hill Pancake House was one of them

it was the apple something too

they're just like little Greek

places yes they were doing a special

they've been around for 40 something years

the other hoagie hut in Highland Park

or Highwood

yeah no I mean I know

I've heard of hoagie hut but I have not been there

it's no longer

we would always go south

we'd go into Winnecke and Kenilworth

and Evanston yeah we wouldn't go north

so you did probably the pancake house

oh yeah on Green Bay Road

yeah Walker Brothers

and the Walker Brothers downtown is amazing too

in Gold Coast

we went to school with the Walker Brothers daughter

did we really?

and we're Kerry Walker

who's in between our age

her dad was a Walker brother

didn't know that until after he graduated

cool so that pancake house

they did a scene you remember the movie Ordinary People

it's this old 70s movie

I think they won a couple Academy Awards

but anyway they filmed it in Chicago

and there was a scene filmed in the pancake house

on Green Bay Road

is that that place still there right

still looks exactly the same

it's amazing to get the big

apple pancake

49ers

49ers is the thin ones right

it's like 7000 calories

breakfast is basically just

crushed sugar

those thin ones are so good

my favorite thing

you really can't beat the Chicago and the surrounding suburbs

for food and drink

yep as good as it gets

agreed

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I think we should bring his question in

of the unlimited budget

what's that car

we can start there

unlimited budget what's the first car you're putting in your collection

let's start it with you got the unlimited budget

because

somebody was in a hurry

to get like something at the gas station

but you were the guy that got the scratch off ticket

and you couldn't make up your fucking mind

so you were standing there for 45 minutes

while the guy behind you's pissed off

you had to get the fucking scratch off ticket

but you want a shit ton of money

on the scratch off ticket

is it one car or multiple cars

well it's just like one like

budget's unlimited

this is a billion take-home after taxes

well I mean

let's start with my dream car

the triple black A-R-Cuda

four speed

I definitely want a pro touring Grand National

like Kevin Hart

that was in the Magnaflow booth

few years ago at SEMA which was just

off the charts

solid third place for the Grand Nationals

maybe fourth

I would

like a white Grand National

yes

did you guys go to

at Meekam

two years ago I think it was there

I know there's one that floats around social media

that's a badass

it's such a cool look

Porsche ST

I'd get a GT3 touring

I'd get a 73RS

I would pretty much cover all my

GT3 touring

because I don't like the wing

and I like the manual transmission

okay

the wings on the RSs are just

too much for me

the clean lines of the touring and they're more comfortable

they got the

the 18 ways versus the sport

the ST

is the ultimate Porsche in my opinion

that thing is just unbelievable

and I

mean

there's so many cars that come across Meekam

that I would buy if I could

I love pro touring cars

and so give me

a 71

Roadrunner body

fully blacked out pro touring

I was going to ask you about that

we were going through the 69, 70

and I was going to ask you where you stand on those

because I think they're fucking cool

like the 71 to 73's

quarter windows gorgeous the front end

it's like a

it's a love it or hated car

if you got the color matched bumper it looks a lot better

the chrome bumper doesn't look as good on the

71's but I love the 71

body style it's unique

the right shop could kill it with that car

you set it up like little

NASCAR style you cut the

wheel openings and set it low and then you

like the petty like the Richard petty style

it pops

yeah and

I mean god I don't know there's so many cars that I love

and

but I think that's a good list

that's a nice collection

T350H a black one with the gold stripes

the Hertz edition

I mean those things are so badass

what do you buy your wife what would you want

my wife is more of a

she's more into like the

40's and 50's look like early 50's

okay Lincoln

yeah you know what she would love a Lincoln

she'd love a Lincoln continental

yeah probably like 66

okay but yeah but she

but as far as like the 40's

style goes

man I don't know

she just anything from that

era is kind of like what attracts her

yeah she's drawn to that

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one of everybody's favorites

probably haven't done this

we didn't do this when you were on last

new segment new segment

your most memorable

law enforcement

interaction story and I want to hear

like you know bud's not going to fire you

bud's got you for another hundred years

right bud's probably going to hear

I want to hear behind the paywall

Chris Jacobs story

first of all

knock on wood I've never been arrested

oh that's good for you

never been arrested so that's

I have a you know I take pride

in that and hopefully that continues

um but I have

it's not that hard

it's

it reminds me of a big chestnut

lyric an unexpected

unexpected pleasant

run-in with the law

which I've had a few of those before

so maybe that's maybe maybe I'll flip

the script on you guys and tell you about a memorable

law force law enforcement

experience that was actually very memorable

in a good way that's fine that's great

so I was

I was rushing through Griffith

Park one time which is this

big public park in LA and it's kind

of a cut through if you want to save some time

and not take the five freeway which

is always parking lot traffic

and it was Christmas time and I was

going to rush to get

some Christmas presents and I was

blitzing through Griffith Park you know I was going

like 16 at 35

and there's always cops in there and

I got pulled over

and the cop comes up to the window

and he's like do you know why I pulled you over

and I'm always honest when I get that question

I guess I do I was probably going too fast

you know the worst thing you can do is like

say no what are you talking about

then the cops just

you're on bad terms

so I said yeah I was probably going a little too fast

like yeah you know you were let me get your license

and registration I give it to him

and he goes back to his car

he's there for a couple minutes and

he comes back to the window

of the car and he turns to

back to his partner in the car

he goes I told you

this is him

and I was like oh yes

I'm going to get out of this

so he's like listen man

you got to slow it down here I go

I totally understand he goes

listen you got to do something for me

and I don't really want to ask you this

can we take some pictures together

and so I got out of the car

and I put them back

and he's giving me what taking pictures

and stuff and I'm like this is fantastic

thank you it's paying off for me

the cops that's good yeah it's

and he didn't give me a ticket

it always hey if it came

in handy it came in here that's

when you need it but that moment

when he turned back to his partner

I told you I told you it was him

I was like that's awesome

thank you chipfus

I've got one to spawn off

of that yeah

how hard of a transition was it

getting on 294

to getting on the 5

that's good

I'll never understand that

you mean how we put the

I don't know it's something so

in fact Saturday Night Live did a whole skit

about that

the Californians

it was Bill Hader

and some other people

that took the 5

to the 110

to the 134

talking about

to get to Huntington Beach

where we shot over Holland

and I would drive every single fucking day

it would I would literally take

4 or 5

different freeways to get there

depending on what route

was less traffic

it would literally be the 134

to the 5 to the 710

to the 110 back on the 5

to the 405

get off on beach

here you land in O'Hara you jump on 294

correct to 94

exactly there's no thus

there's no thus so it did

it did take a little

getting used to not saying the

when I'm back here in Chicago

let's see next up a little bit of curveball

you get

you get the black AAR

that's the first car you get

it's ready to go

rare and blaring

you've got

4 hours to do nothing

no honeydews, no nothing

kids great, wife's great

you can just take off

tear off in it

what's the soundtrack you're popping in

what are you listening to

I mean

I'm an old school classic rock and roll guy

so it's either

Stones, Zeppelin, The Who

Beatles

you know

early Ozzy

Black Sabbath

where you driving to

Leonard Skinner

talking to your

probably

there's one of two ways you can go

you can go Mulholland if you want the curves

AR CUDA probably isn't as good for the curves

as one of those Porsches I mentioned

so I'd probably take the AR CUDA

on a rip down force lawn

which is just long and straight

no stop signs, no stop lights

and generally no cops

so you can get it up

pretty good there

Beatles

I'm a Beatles fan too

whole Beatles

there wasn't really much of an era of Beatles

they lasted like 8 years

I love the Beatles

completely different

what's the song

I mean

I consider the white album to be just one long song

so I gotta say like that

medley of golden slumbers

and she came in through the bathroom window

you know and

that section of white album is

when I was

11 or 12 years old

I used to go on family vacations

for Christmas to Acapulco, Mexico

and one of those years

I got a Walkman

and Abbey Road

and Sergeant

Peppers on cassette tape

and I listened to those two cassettes

over and over and over again

so like fixing a hole

and

pretty much anything off of

Sergeant Peppers

or Abbey Road

I mean

everything

Rubber Soul is probably the most perfect album

just like

I could listen to Beatles all day long

every day

I'm a big vinyl file

collection so I mean vinyl

just sounds the best especially when it's classic rock

so I get into

Beatles

deep dives and I just will play them over

and over and over again yeah so

I'm on Digipony or Your Blues

did you watch the documentary

on Apple TV where they are

developing those songs

have you not seen that documentary

oh you gotta watch that dude

it's called

I think it's called Let It Be

the documentary may be called Let It Be

but it's about the creation of that album

and you literally hear these songs come to life

because they play them over and over

and over again

all the different crazy things

that they were

I think I saw some of that documentary

but it's some of the weirdo instruments

that they're talking about doing right

or is this a different one

this is actually very

straightforward

yeah that was more Sergeant Peppers

but it's amazing because Digipony is one of my favorite tunes

I absolutely love that song

every time I hear it

it gives me the fucking chills

it's all Lenin

McCartney was like the

melodical genius

and Lenin was the

ripping away and getting down

to the soul of your being genius

like he can come up with a lyric that's just like

how the hell did you just

speak to me in that way

so I'm gonna blow your mind

and I'm gonna put you on to something that's amazing

right now

look this up right now on YouTube

can you do that Jamie

so I've got a couple, some buddies of mine from high school

were in a fucking killer band

and it just kind of fell apart

but they were the closest thing

to the Beatles that's ever existed

look up the Red Walls

Digipony

and they're sort of trying to

early 2000s they crushed it

so I'm gonna

give a shout out because they're trying to make a comeback

it's pretty obvious that that's what you're doing

right there

listen this dude was one of my

lesser clippers they're not hard enough

to play on that Lenin

lyric

you can't even indicate anything

you say

what did you know

me

you can't even say that I want you

alone

you can't even say that I want you

alone

I took my soul

all I want

all is you

everything I've got to

be just like you want it to

oh that dude

we just mind melded there

you gotta see this documentary

cause you'll hear Digipony 9 million times

really? yeah

but dude if they develop the song

I'm gonna watch that if you want like just a revival

of something that could have been the Beatles

listen to these dudes

are those guys brothers? yes

they're brothers but they didn't turn out an album

since like the mid

2000s maybe 2010

and they're Chicago guys cause you went to high school

but they were like this close

to fucking killing it

a few years too early

and it just slipped away

and you know what that pygmy line is from

is the beginning of

one of the tracks on

Abby Rover he goes

I'd like to say thanks on behalf of

me and the boys

and I hope we pass the audition

but dude I used to hang out

like back I mean shit we were kids

I mean and this dude would be sitting there

like freshman year of high school

smoking a cigarette

playing the guitar and he looked like

he was like 20 something years old

high as shit

yeah he's a freshman

I'm looking my son's a freshman

he's like a little boy

and this kid was like

I'd go over to his house and he's like

higher than shit sanded on his guitar

again smoking a cigarette like Asian style

I mean cool

everyone else is wearing abracame cargo

right yeah bell bottoms

you name it

did you guys ever go to bitty mulligans? no

it was this old school music place

I can't remember what year it closed down

but it was like right in the transition between

Evanston and downtown

it was awesome little music venue

we used to go see this band called Junction

there and this guy was a guitar player

and he was like the next

Stevie Ray Vaughan

just ripping yes we used to go see

him play there I don't know if he

ever made it

but he was back in the day

he was like you know we were all like

this guy's got it

Chris you got

this weekend you're here for

macaque and that's muscle car

and Corvette Nationals right? correct

and this year they're featuring an amazing

collection of hemi cars which I'm really

looking forward to seeing my buddy Ryan Brutt

who goes by the handle the auto

archaeologist you guys probably know

him he's been doing a bunch of previews

from there and I'm also looking forward

to seeing the guys

from Mopars 5150

Troy and the gang and then Derek

the vice grip garage is going to be there also

oh sweet

so it's a

all day tomorrow? yeah all day tomorrow

all day Sunday I'm going to the bears game on Sunday

but I will be there Sunday morning

early to interview Peter Brock

for meekum he's going to be

there with his

63 Corvette

custom that he's

done because you know Peter Brock was one of the designers

of the 63 Corvette

C2 and so I'm

really looking forward to talking to Peter

I mean you know living legend

the dude's like almost 90 and he's still

shots attack and you know his history

with Shelby and everything it's just legendary

yeah

the only thing that we are missing

on semi standard questions

before we wrap this up is

oh you're going to go there

we got to go there because I

have a feeling that I know

which way this one's going

go ahead if you ask the question then

Burt Reynolds or Sylvester Stallone

and why

just in general

in life in the world you got to pick one

and

I got to go with Sly

I fucking knew it

I knew I fucking knew

I figured it

I picked up on it too

Sly is just a fucking

complete badass I mean

let's start with the beginning of his career

he did not give

in he had a vision for

Rocky and they wanted to take it away

from him and he said no fuck you

this is my vision

sooner or later people just give up and be like you know what

fuck it make the movie I'm tired of it

and he wrote it directed it

starred in it

and won an Oscar

he's a fucking legend and he's done

I mean look at how many legendary

things I mean sure

Burt's a car guy but he's known

as a car guy because of smoking the bandit

about the car then about Burt I love Burt

Burt was great but fucking Sly

he's not Sly he's Burt's great

I'm not going to deny that he's not Sly

you picked up

on a note you were like

I think I can get a win

and you went hard

I'm a winner dude I can't get wins

I picked up on the same thing

I picked up on the same thing it's when I was going to shut it down

without it going

you knew he was cool

yeah that's right

we're working on a little something

yeah you're working on something

working on a little something for you

okay I can't wait

and by the way how many times they had to

have Burt how many times

he had to sell a movie

you don't ever talk about like

remember movies did he write any movie

let me give you the ultimate Sly

double feature yes and everybody

needs to do this

watch Cobra

and over the top

back to back over the top

great Cobra's the worst movie

fucking dude he never takes his sunglasses

we are hanging out

he wrecks his murk 900 times

he cuts a piece of pizza

with his scissors

for breakfast

no one is more bad

and he bags brisheed nils

no one is bad as he gets

he walks around with a fucking mat stick

that mercury was the worst movie car

don't worry about that

worst movie car

the charger

and the bullet lost 19 hubcaps

you don't have to worry about it

that was a great car

over the top is a good movie

I'll give you over the top

it's about as good as it gets

it's like a switch

look at that

oh man

this has been an absolute fucking blast

I know you've done a lot of podcasts

way more professional than this

I hope you had as good a time as we did

I want to reset my barn

come back for number 4

oh you killed the bottle

you can see

the dead soldiers there

if you kill a bottle

that means you get to autograph it and sign it

you don't get to do that

go to macaquan

mika when is the next auction

you are going to be at

December

which is a smaller auction

and then in january

in kisimi florida

4500 cars

what's the big one for mika

kisimi is number 1

and spring

classic in india is like 1a

but kisimi is the big one

we need to get dana on the podcast

that'd be good

is he full time in lake june

or does he live in chicago

I think he's full time in lake june

Chris has been amazing

thank you guys

anything you ever need

let us know

I'm sure we're going to run into each other real soon

thanks man

in january with bruce mire

100% doing that

see you again next week

Chris Jacobs 3.0

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