Classic Auto Mall - #081 - Stewart Howden with Steve Saffier

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Now, here's your host, Classic Automall President and the man with all the toys, Stuart Howden.

Good morning, listeners, and good morning, Steve.

Good morning.

March the 28th is the day we're recording.

We'll air this first on April 1st.

Well, April Fool's Day.

And this is show number 81, so we're old hat at this.

We got this down to a well-oiled machine.

Right?

So you bought a new car?

Yes.

What'd you get?

I'm just making sure my mic is on.

Check, check.

I hear you.

Okay, good.

What'd you get?

Well, you know, as a member of the Old York Road Sports Car Club.

Right.

It started in 1952-53.

I'm probably the only one in the club who didn't have a sports car.

And while they appreciate my performance truck, it really didn't fit in.

So I've always been soft searching for a couple of years for a real true Roadster sports car.

I found a BMW Z3 2000 with 28,000 miles on it.

And what color is it?

It's a Topaz Blue.

Oh, that's a good color.

It's a good color for that car.

Yeah.

One of the better colors, I think, for that car, really, truly.

It's just, it's iconic for that car.

When you think of that car, you think of that color.

That car or the light blue that apparently was in a James Bond movie.

Again, I'm not a movie guy.

Yeah.

We're documented and are well aware of that now.

So, and we're going to talk about a couple of movies.

Okay.

Let's get into the show today.

Cannonball Run and Cannonball, Cannonball Run 1 and Cannonball Run 2.

I almost rented Le Mans because I've seen the whole thing.

And I wasn't sure if I, I didn't, you know, at nine o'clock at night, do I want to start

an hour?

And it's really, it's a long two hours because there's a lot of very dry, you know, movie

making back in the 60s was not quite what it is today.

It's not, you know, in your face action every second, every minute of it.

It's very drawn out.

Things that take 10 seconds in a current movie are like two minutes in that movie.

But the racing and the sounds is amazing.

People had a longer attention span back then.

So seems to be longer.

They're more dialogue.

Well, you didn't have a cell phone in your pocket.

I mean, I can, we'll be watching a movie at home and I'll look over and my wife is on

her cell phone.

She's doing something or on her iPad or whatever and not even listening or watching the movie.

Hey, did you enjoy that movie?

Oh, it's fantastic.

Well, how do you know?

Cell phones, man.

I know they're the scourge of the earth, but, you know, can't live without them, can't

live with them, you know, whatever the saying is.

I, I love my cell phone because there are so many things that I can do with that that

don't require me to have, you know, a whole traipse of either people following me or a

whole box with wheels on it that I roll around all my stuff.

I love having everything in my hand, you know.

Think about it.

You don't have to carry an address book.

You don't have to carry it.

I mean, there's just so many things.

Remember math books?

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

The Thomas map in, in Los Angeles, Thomas guide.

If you lived in Los Angeles, maybe not just Los Angeles, probably any big city, more than

likely though, Los Angeles, the Thomas guide was like a phone book that you sat on the

passenger seat of your car and everybody had one and that was the way to find your way

around Los Angeles because Los Angeles was spread out and back in the day when I lived

there in the early 80s, you know, everything you had to do was always, you know, three

towns over and, and there was 42 main streets and there was 42, you know, of the same name

road and you had to know exactly where you were going and then you'd run out of page

because you'd have to flip the page to see where you were going next and God forbid there

was a, you know, a left and an immediate right.

You could miss that pretty easily.

It's intriguing.

It's basically a giant map cut into squares and then you don't just pay.

It wasn't just page by page.

It would say go to page 32.

Yeah.

And look at F three, which so the F on the left side and the three, you know, the numbers

on the bottom and the, and, and then you would find what you were looking for and then you'd

had to backtrack to figure out how to get to that point because now you've found where

you're going, but you're way far, you're on page 77 and this is on page 130.

How do you get from 77 to 30?

My first job in LA was delivering flowers, which was actually a good, you learned a lot

about it.

Where was the flower shop?

Beverly Hills.

Oh, well.

I told you, I delivered to some celebrities.

That's true.

Apollonia.

Yeah.

Steve Perry and a whole bunch of people.

Yeah.

Steve Perry ruined journey.

No, he didn't.

Yeah.

He's a kid.

I don't know.

We don't know what the true story of that is.

Nor do we care because this is a car show, not a Steve Perry journey show.

But anyway, had a good week last week selling cars.

We sold them while all over the place.

How about Brisbane, Australia?

Wow.

Yeah.

Sold a car to Australia.

Australia, which is not inexpensive to get the car there.

I mean, I don't know what the fees and the duties and all that are.

I'm sure that is another thing all in and of itself, however, just to get it from here

to there.

And the timing it takes, it takes a long time to get it there.

Anyway.

Well, there's a lot of American cars and it's like a hobby.

I have a friend of mine who lives in Australia and a big car collector over there.

And yeah, they get them over there.

They figure it out one way or another.

They're like degenerate, you know, car guys just like the rest of us.

They'll figure out a way.

Are you friends with Google for murder?

Yeah.

Me and Roop.

Yeah.

No, we're not.

Anyway, Brisbane, Australia, Elizabethtown, Pennsylvania, Malvern, Pennsylvania, Wrightsville,

Pennsylvania, Jeffersonville, Pennsylvania, Wharton, New Jersey, Tyson's Corner, Virginia,

Los Angeles, California, Fort Worth, Texas, Westchester, Pennsylvania, Canfield, Ohio,

Morristown, New Jersey, Fredericksburg, Texas, Helena, Montana, Russellville, Alabama,

Chandler, Arizona, Wild Missing, Pennsylvania, Warren, Ohio, Beirut, Lebanon.

Really?

Yeah.

And Herford, Pennsylvania, Denver, Pennsylvania, Glenville, Pennsylvania.

How interesting.

Beirut.

Did they get the Hummer?

No.

I may have told this story before, so you'll just have to suffer with it if I have.

So, we sold a G-55 AMG Mercedes, the black box.

You know what those are.

They look like a box.

They're four-wheel drives.

Yeah, yeah.

And we sold it to Bray Root, Lebanon.

And we were watching the news one night, and there was some unrest in the Middle East,

and I thought, oh no.

What if we happen to see that being used in some kind of heist or unrest and, you know,

whatever, with machine guns turreted on the top of it?

No, they used Tacoma now.

They go to Tacoma.

They love those Tacoma.

We got a Tacoma in recently.

Yeah, we did.

Did you not see that?

Not yet.

We got a Tacoma and something else, Toyota, that are all off-roaded up with the tri-color

stripes.

Yeah, really, really cool.

Hot vehicle, right?

Yeah, they really are.

It's funny how imports have had a pretty good shelf life as of lately and have been

very, very popular in import cars, but now import trucks are really starting to come

on strong.

The Toyotas and the Nissan's and all that, the little mini trucks, and the Toyota trucks

were even back in the day were pretty darn cool.

Even when they were small, you had one that was properly accoutremented, you know, with

the wheels and the tires and the lift kit and the light bar and the roll bar and the colors

and all that.

It was a pretty cool truck.

Yeah, it was.

Listen, I got some razzing online for saying, Toyota, because I'm from Philly, and my title

is...

Do you also say Hyundai?

Hyundai?

It's Hyundai, right?

It's Hyundai, but most people say Hyundai.

I say Toyota, I always have.

My dad did.

And you got grief on that.

Oh, boy, I got hammered.

One guy said, I'm never buying a car there because you said Toyota.

Oh, my God.

And I said, look, dude, I'm from Philly.

I'm from Philly.

What do you expect?

You know.

Anyway.

You know, listen, accents are accents.

My wife gets on to me all the time because I say fur, like I'm going for some chicken,

or...

F-E-R.

And a lot of people say fur, by the way.

Not just East Tennessee.

Twofer.

And I say orange instead of orange, and so she tends to make fun of me with that.

So, you know, I'm not the only one, honey.

Steve can't pronounce, you know.

Right.

I say...

Toyota.

How do you say, well, hot dog?

Right?

I say...

How would you say it differently?

My wife's...

Who's from California?

It says hot dog.

Haddack.

Like an old one.

I get to D-A-G instead of...

Anyway, we digress.

We digress.

Did you ever eat at Pinks?

Hot dogs?

Yeah, I love Pinks.

Did you ever eat at Fat Jack's on Ventura Boulevard, the hamburger place, where they

had the chili burger?

Oh, my God.

No, but what was the other one that had stands?

My wife would know this.

Yeah.

Different stands around L.A. that would do the chili burger thing.

Yeah.

Chili burgers are great.

Yeah.

And I tell you, in L.A., the best thing were the taco stands that were just a little cinder

block building.

And they were...

When the first time you went there, if you were from East Tennessee, you ordered a taco

and you're like, well, where's the ground beef?

And they're like, oh, we don't use ground beef.

We use shredded steak.

Oh, yeah.

And it was like, oh, I didn't know that.

But then you realize, oh, this is much better.

They had...

Oh, there were some great places that were...

I worked in North Hollywood on Lancashire and Dahunga.

And there was taco stands all around there.

And you figured out the really good ones.

Sure.

And they were amazing.

And Los Angeles in and of itself was amazing.

I mean, from the car culture to just everything, and the music culture was amazing.

You could spend...

You were usually broke before the weekend, before you even got paid, because you bought

tickets to see whatever concerted.

Everything was expensive out there.

And relatively to anywhere else you live, because in Knoxville, Tennessee, valet parking

didn't exist.

There was no such thing as valet parking.

In LA, there was no place you could park that wasn't valet parking.

Or at least charge.

Or at least some kind of payment.

But usually valet.

And of course, if you wanted to be a car thief, you just needed to get one of those little

red velvet jackets and act like you.

You'd get a little A-frame stand and you'd stand out there on the side of the road and

the guy flips you his keys and you'd take off and you'd never return.

And there was valet...

That's what started valet keys on cars.

Remember that?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So like, I know the Corvette ZR1s had a key that would disable some of the power or some

of the cylinders.

And then there was valet keys on high-dollar sports cars and, you know, not high-dollar,

but I mean high-performance sports cars that they would disable part of the engine.

Because you didn't want the valet out tearing up to your right.

Yeah, and he knew that you were going to be in there for a while.

The fun one was where you valed at the rainbow bar and grill in between the rainbow and the

Roxy.

And you pulled right into that little parking lot area in between them.

And if you had a cool car, there was usually a line of people waiting to get in.

And if you had a cool car, then that was your time to, you know, be really cool.

Well, they wave you to the front.

They wave you to the front or park you near the front.

And then, of course, when at 2 a.m., when everything closed, that little parking area

that you pulled into valet to became like the party central for the next hour or so.

Yep.

And, and of course, your, your hope was to get invited to one of the parties in the

Holiday Hills.

Is that what it was?

Hollywood Hills.

Excuse me, the Holiday Hills.

It's like a golf course.

It's like a holiday.

And to get invited to one of those, you had to really know somebody or be kind of interesting

or something.

So needless to say, it didn't get invited very often.

Right.

So.

Well, I did a feature on one of the Cornishes we had here at one point.

And I thought, I thought of Lermitage, which was on, I think was on La Cienic in not even

Beverly Hills, just above Beverly Hills.

And yeah, they'd be lined up in the front.

If you had a Cornish, you'd get front row.

Yeah, you get front row.

Everybody else, they parked down in Beverly Hills.

A Mercedes 450 SEL would get parked way down our way, you know.

And of course, when I, again, growing up in Knoxville, Tennessee, there was one Rolls-Royce

in the whole town.

And when we, I'll never forget the first time I drove down Wilshire Boulevard on a Friday

afternoon at about one o'clock in the afternoon, we counted in one block, like 55 Rolls-Royces.

And of course, never having seen one before.

I mean, you talk about the ultimate status symbol back in the day.

It was.

A 450 SEL was way up there, a Mercedes.

That was, you know, the little Roadster Mercedes that became the 560 and then the 5 whatever

and so on and so forth.

The SEL Roadsters were always kind of at the top of the heat there.

But boy, a Cornish convertible Rolls.

And people say, oh, it's redundant to say Cornish convertible, but it's not.

They were Cornish coupes.

Right.

And they were very ugly.

By the way, we have a beautiful Cornish here.

We do.

We have two.

Maybe nicer than the one we sold last year.

Yeah.

The red one we sold last year.

This black or dark one.

And unequaled by the ugliest Rolls-Royce, in my opinion, the Camargue.

Remember that?

No.

Oh.

Camargue?

The C-A-M-A-R-G-U-E.

I'm probably butchering there.

I never heard that.

Annunciation of it.

But the Camargue was a two-door coupe-ish, weird-looking, odd-looking.

Of course, back in the day, the big thing on cars was sheepskin seat covers.

Oh, yeah.

Those were so hideous.

They're still around.

You still see them at car shows.

There's a SEL Mercedes that we have here, I think, that has sheepskin seat covers.

Cool in the summer.

Yeah.

And warm in the winter.

Yeah.

So, when we return, we've digressed way into, way off the deep end of what we were talking

about.

L.A. in cars.

It's appropriate.

It's hard not to talk about L.A. in cars.

When we return, we might talk about, I don't know, Philly in cars or, you know, Miami in

cars or somewhere else.

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On a weird day.

We're here on a Tuesday.

Yeah, we're doing a Tuesday.

I feel very Tuesday-ish.

You know, Saturdays, I feel more loose and I don't know why.

You've got paperwork to do today.

I've got paperwork to do today.

I have work that has to be done today that I'm not doing because I'm doing this.

But it also is kind of strange because there's not a 10,000 people flooding through the doors

like there usually are on Saturdays.

Saturdays have gotten so busy, it's crazy.

Listen, if you want to come visit us, Saturday is great.

We're from 9 to noon.

But don't forget Wednesday at evenings.

We're here at 8 p.m.

You know what?

I had a weird dream.

I just remember last night I was standing in the center court and there were thousands

of people here and I had a megaphone and I was saying, please don't touch the cars.

And I was doing it every corner, like I was standing.

Well, because you have to be like a rotator 360, you know, it's a panorama of.

Like a boxing ring.

Right.

Oh, you need the microphone that comes out of the ceiling.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Ladies and gentlemen, please do not touch the cars.

Because it was so crowded that we couldn't control what people were.

There's a lot of people were in.

Yeah.

So, but Wednesdays are a great time to come because we're open till 8 p.m.

Yeah.

We're not nearly as busy.

And and and then that's important if you want to look at the cars because sometimes

we're so busy that, you know, you it's harder to get to see a particular car because everybody's

looking at it.

It's like when you go to the auto show and everybody's looking at the new whatever and

you can't even get close enough to really see it or take a picture of it because there's

so many people.

So don't forget Wednesdays till 8 p.m.

And don't forget our showroom is open 24 hours a day on our website.

Classicautomall.com.

And if you have any questions about a car that you see on there or you want to come

look at it closer and set up an appointment to come see it right sales at classicautomall.com

or info at classicautomall.com.

And then of course, if you have anything with the show that you want to talk to us about

or give us grief about like my Toyota Toyota and Hyundai, right, you can reach us at podcast

at classicautomall.com.

So that's a lot to remember.

Just go to our website.

Yeah, all that is there.

All the it's all there or watch any of the videos.

It's on the tag end of every video.

Yep.

And we've got if you go to YouTube, we're on YouTube and we're on everything.

Tick tock and Instagram and Facebook and and then Spotify and Apple.

Is it is it iTunes now?

Is that what's really it's Apple play play and Google podcast and Google podcast.

So and then America's Web Radio is where you can hear the show for the first time every

Saturday.

Now it won't be recorded that Saturday.

Usually it's recorded the week before or in this case the Tuesday before because we had

a little technical difficulty on Saturday.

So, you know, sometimes that happens.

So the nice thing is it's our studio.

It's our show.

It's our bus.

It's our world we can do.

Yeah, we're just waiting for Jay Leno to walk through the door.

So we can interview with him and watching what's the what's the place up in?

Oh shoot.

You went to the show last year.

No, the other.

Oh, Newport.

No, Audrey.

Audrey.

So they have a YouTube channel.

They do.

It's pretty good.

I watched a video that was about six months old, but it was him and Don Osborn and Don talking

about 928s, portion 928s, very, very good conversation.

I have a whole thing of 928s here.

I know you do.

I saw that on there.

I'm like, I've been on here.

No fancy music, no fancy graphics, just those two guys standing next to a 928s and just

talking about, you know, the pros and cons of the car.

And do you think it was all off the cuff or do you think it was scripted or anything?

Well, I mean, Donald Osborn, who runs the Audrain Concours, D'Elegance and the Audrain

Museum and everything else that is Audrain, is right there in the thick of things and

knows so much about cars.

And then, of course, Jay Leno probably, Osborn probably knows more about cars overall, but

Leno knows a lot about specific cars, like if he owns one or has owned one, he might

know more than anybody knows about a particular car.

But you have to almost be selective like that in your knowledge of cars.

Or you can't know everything about every car because there's, I mean, look at us.

We've got nine.

What is the number?

Yeah.

What is the current status of our inventory today is let's get to that page here and let's

refresh it and hope that it doesn't kick us off, which sometimes it does 937 and inventory.

And you say that went down from last week or it went up from last week.

Sometimes we sell more than we can sign.

It depends on the weather.

A lot to do with it.

Like yesterday rained all day, so we sold seven and consigned one.

So that happens.

So that's why you see the numbers.

Or sometimes people, you know, for whatever reason, like it's spring, they start getting

the fever.

The car's been here for a couple of months and didn't sell.

Boy, I'd like to kind of take it out and use it at the car shows and then I'll bring

it back in the fall.

And listen, as long as you honor that first 90-day agreement with us, we're fine with

that.

You know, but give us the 90 days because we spend a lot of time, money and effort to

get these cars out there on the market.

And you know, when you come show up 25 days after we've done that and say you want to

pull your car out, well, it's your car.

It's your asset.

Welcome to take it.

But it's, you know, and we're not going to hold your feet to the fire, but we'd appreciate

you allowing us to honor the 90-day agreement and let us have at least 90 days to sell it.

We don't sell it after then, then hey, come get it and, you know, have fun.

We're dead to you.

You'll be back.

You'll be back because we're, you know, we make it so easy to sell your car.

And that's, that's what we've sold.

That's what's been our business MO since day one is that there's a lot to sell in

your own car.

There is.

And I don't always tell people just have patience and the right buyer will come along.

I mean, one guy pulled a car out of here.

He's still trying to sell it on his own and it's a tough car.

And I know that if it would have stayed here a little bit longer, eventually it's going

to find that buyer.

If you're patient and you don't need the car for car shows, right, you maybe have other

stuff in your stable than or even for transportation, right?

Maybe you lose your, your daily driver and you've got something that's close to a daily

driver that's here at BMW late month Mercedes or something.

So, you know, I understand that.

Listen, extenuating circumstances happen.

And again, it's your car, your asset, you can take it out whenever you want.

No matter, you know, contract be damned.

But if you don't have to, if it's not an emergency, if it's not, oh my God, I can't

not do this, then give us the chance to do it.

At least let us have our 90 days.

And if it doesn't sell in the 90 days, usually it's only one reason.

It's price.

We present it well.

We put everything out there on the market that we find about the cars.

You know, good, bad and ugly.

It's on 60 plus websites all over the world.

Usually if it hadn't sold.

I mean, we can tell the ones that are fairly priced because within a week or 10

days they've got a deposit and usually are pretty much sold within a shorter

period of time than anything else.

Had I not purchased the BMW Z3, you have a beautiful little Mazda RX8.

Eight, yeah.

Because that is, I think, fairly priced.

I do too.

And I don't think that's going to be here very long at all.

But I would have definitely jumped on that because I think it's a great car.

Your wife called and she said you can't.

It's really nice.

Titanium gray metallic.

It's only got 28,000 actual miles on it.

It's got all the service records, 19 grand fairly priced.

Yeah.

Now we've got a regular RX7 93 and it's a little pricier than that.

Well, of course, that's a little more desirable body style.

Right.

And and then we've got a little Mazda Miata in as well, too.

Right.

And two Mazda Miata's.

We've got the one that's got the five liter Kenbell.

Yeah, the monster Miata.

400 horsepower V8, which is probably not enough power for a Mazda.

Is it?

Yeah.

That thing.

Hold on.

What do we do?

This is bright yellow.

There's no, there's no missing it.

Yeah.

But the RX8 is a, I've sat in the backseat of RX8.

So I remember going to the LA Auto Show when they first came out and you could

sit in and it's really comfortable in the backseat.

And the backseat, I would have never known that.

I've never sat in.

Yeah.

I don't think I've ever been in an RX8.

I've obviously known about them for all the years, but I don't think

I've ever funky suicide door on the back and climb right in.

And it's very comfortable for adults, which is unlike porches and things.

Yeah.

Most cars, I mean, the backseat is hideous.

And as they said on the Audrey and show yesterday, it's mostly for

insurance purposes that they added this two plus two.

Well, there's a lot of things that, you know, they underestimate, back in

the old days, they underrated the horsepower.

You know, which they would never do today because now that more of the

Mary Hall about horsepower, but back then they would say, oh, that's

only got 275 horsepower.

They detuned it for, I guess the insurance company somehow tested it.

I don't know.

Some of it was all GM with the Grand National and then eventually

Typhoon and the Cyclone, they detuned them.

They lowered the horsepower rating so that the Corvette was not overshadowed.

Sure.

They didn't want to pick up truck or an SUV to kick the Corvette, which it did.

They did.

Yeah, they were all wheel drive quicker and they were rated at 280 horsepower

out of the factory, more like 320, but they didn't want to, you know, surpass

the Corvette and horsepower.

Well, and again, back to the insurance thing as well, too.

I'm sure they didn't want to, you know, have their customers pay premiums.

And people, people ask why nowadays that they have eight speed automatic or nine

speed automatic transmissions, or they have the automatic shutoff, as I've said

before, my least favorite thing in the car.

And they have all that because they're just, they're cramming for fuel mileage.

They're doing their best because they had, they know they had the stuff that's

never going to be good.

Well, fuel mileage, like the Escalade Cadillac or the big Silverados.

But I did see today the European Union is talking about making some exceptions

to the all electric rule in 2035 that they can't sell combustion engines.

Now they're saying if it's a zero emissions, blah, whatever, then there.

And I think that I think that what we'll find is, is that they're not going

to be able to honor those mandates that they're saying, nor will it make

financial sense for them.

You're saying it's a pipe dream or it's a utopian nightmare.

Might be something of both.

But what I think is, is that I think that that, I mean, I read the other day that

Ford in their combustion engine department made 2.2 billion in profit and lost 3.2

billion in the electric car department.

Now, obviously they're in the R&D development early stages of that.

And that's going to happen.

That's not an electric car thing.

That's just a car thing.

Right.

As you lose money.

I mean, like the 58 in Palo was a one year only body style.

My God, how much money do they have to lose on that thing?

Right.

You know, so I get that part of it.

I get that there's, you know, money to be lost in the initial stages of things.

But I just think the more we dive into it, the more we're going to realize that,

you know, again, we've said this time and time again, we're not against electric cars.

They're just not for every, every application, you know, every solution or every, you know,

problem is not going to be, the solution is not going to be electric car.

I think that we're, we're going to see that, that they're going to be invaluable around

cities and, and for delivery vans and flower delivery companies and, you know, things like

that where, where you're out on the road on short distances and always coming back to

the home base, which you can plug into, but to go from even from Los Angeles to Palm Springs.

I mean, are you going to be comfortable?

I know it's not that far of a drive, but, or if you're going from Philly to Baltimore,

you know, do you want to take the chance of getting not running out and having to sit

on the side of the road or not on the side of the road, but at a truck stop or wherever

for four hours to charge your car.

Now the solution will be the fast chargers.

I mean, I wonder what the goal is for charging.

Is it to, you know, be able to charge a car in five minutes?

Yeah, like 30 seconds or something.

Like, I mean, eventually I think the infrastructure will catch up with, with demand for the

technology, but my beef is the conservation angle to it or the, the, you know, eco-friendly

in this of it.

There is no free lunch.

How long does it take to put 20 gallons of gas in the car?

I don't know.

A minute and a half, two minutes?

It depends on if they got that, that, you know, where you got to click it a hundred times

because it's, or if they service it.

Apparently they, after a while it slows down or somebody else is pumping on the other side.

You can feel it.

Yours is slow.

Wait a minute.

What happened here?

I was going so much faster or when it's really slow and there's some kind of vapor locked

thing going on, they say, within the pump.

So that, that happens from time to time, but for the most part, minute and a half or so

in your full, your 20 gallons and, you know, the bad thing is if you're driving our truck

and trailer on diesel and you have to go in to give them your car, then you got to go

back out and pump, then you got to go back in to get your car and pay and all that.

Plus, you're always confused whether you're putting death, the diesel fuel supplement

that you put in there, if it's already in the fuel, because on my truck, you have to

put it in separately, under the hood, on the firewall, on a duly, that's about 18 feet

tall and I'm not 18 feet tall.

So anyway, when we come back, we'll talk more about that because I want to really rant

about that and now you can put the death in beside the diesel fuel tank.

So anyway, electric power tools kind of sort of makes sense.

Yeah, especially think about this, an older woman who wants to mow her yard and you got

a lawn mower and had started all winter and you go out there and you pull on it so many

times that you're worn out and it still won't start.

And then you find out you got a plug, you know, a foul plug or you got bad gas or, you

know, the carburetors off or the choke or whatever.

Oh, I clean out the carburetors after every winter, you know, everything's got to come

apart.

Yeah.

So yes, I get, I mean, I get gasoline powered lawn tools.

My blower with the gas power on is amazing.

My still weed eater will take an eye out.

He'll throw a rocket like 900 feet per second.

You know, this thing is like, oh, it's kind of scary, especially if you've gone from one

of those little green weed eater ones that, you know, barely could get through any of

the grass and that thing will die after 20 minutes and this thing you put up against

a cinder block and it cuts right through it like nobody's business.

So, but, you know, electric power tools may be a thing, but, you know, I think there's

just, again, certain circumstances that, that makes sense for electric and certain

circumstances that don't, I love combustion engines.

I love the sound of them.

I love, you know, there's, there's so many parts to that that we like and, and, and not

to be selfish.

I'm not saying that just because I like them and because I think they sound cool that

somehow that we should not have electric vehicles.

I'm not saying that.

I'm just saying room for both.

I think there's room for both, right?

You know, we got some great new inventory in this week.

How about the 69 Corvette convertible Le Mans blue over bright blue numbers matching

L 71 427 cubic inch V8 daddy.

Yeah.

Numbers matching Muncie M 20 manual and a special order heavy duty 411 posi axle.

Wow.

And it was sold new.

You didn't go Chevrolet.

That's, I mean, that's not alone.

Yeah.

Got the window sticker, the NCR.

That's cool.

Yeah.

I mean, just to say, I don't care if you bought a Caprice, a 77 Caprice, if you

came from Yanko Chevrolet, that's cool.

That's a legend.

That adds to the, to the, you know, one upmanship of that for sure.

Car.

So really a beautiful car.

But how about the 38 Lincoln Zephyr coupe that we got in that is burgundy over

beige and this thing is got so much steel.

It's real estate of this thing is amazing.

I mean, it's just, you can't believe how big it is until you stand right next to

it or put it next to another car.

It's basically, and I won't say a flawless, but it's close to body and paint.

It's got an Art Deco interior that's got some worn areas that were original, that

were hard to replace, I think.

So they decided not to replace the whole interior, which I'm, I get that.

That makes absolute sense.

It's a 270, 267 cubic inch V12.

Funny how the displacement on the V12 is low, you know, small, and they usually

had a one barrel carburetor, right?

Which is really fun.

Putting along.

Just putting along, you know, smooth.

Yeah.

Putting along.

Not like the S65, the twin turbo V12 with 638 horsepower and 700 and God knows

what foot pounds of torque, but anyway, the other thing about this Lincoln's

effort is really cool.

It's got the two speed rear axle and a three speed manual.

But the nice thing about the two speed rear axle is that you can get a little bit

better highway speeds because it's got a little bit lower gear ratio.

Most of them were just a one speed rear axle.

You know, there was no, there wasn't an overdrive or if you did, I mean, some

of them had an overdrive, but I mean, if you just had a three speed manual with

a one speed rear axle, you know, you 50 miles an hour is really pushing it on

the highway.

So also, and this is an odd one for me to pick, is that there's a 20, we got

a 27 Ford Model T Roadster.

This thing is about the nicest Model T I've ever seen in my entire life.

I mean, the level of detail that they did on this was amazing.

It's stunning.

And I'll say, and when you hear that about a Model T, right, exactly.

They're usually kind of worn, you know, black, the paint's not real shiny.

They're just, they're just utilitarian transportation machines.

That black was the standard, right?

Black was the standard color.

You could order it any color.

As long as it was black was the old saying back then in the Model T, but, but

this one, I mean, it's less than 20 grand.

Um, it's, it's, you won't go anywhere that people, I don't care how jaded of a

car guy is going to come up and say, wow, that's a really nice car.

For sure.

And most guys don't walk up to Model T's and say, wow, that's a really nice car.

And not any diss on the Model T.

It's just that there, there's a gazillion of them out there and most of them are

in marginal or average condition.

Yeah.

They're not, they're not done to this level.

So I will get off my high horse about the Model T Roadster.

So anyway, how about the 73 Bronco?

Right.

Black over black frame off restored, um, full roll cage, uh, this thing is, you

know, you put, look at the level of things that people go to, to restore these

cars and trucks and it's absolutely amazing.

I mean, the time and the patience it has to get something, I mean, this is again,

near flawless.

It is.

It really is.

But the amount of patience that you have to have to get that car to that near flawless

condition.

I mean, there are entire companies that just do absolutely for the classic Broncos

or internationals and they've made a whole business out of it.

Yeah.

And it's amazing because, you know, you see the amount of craftsmanship and work.

These people are artists that do these like this, especially to this level.

I agree.

You know, and listen, it's not to, to downplay anybody who wants to do it in

their backyard and do an amateur restoration, you know, and when we sell a

vehicle, we note whether it's a professional or an amateur restoration.

And of course, what that means is the amateur restoration is not going to be

quite as shiny and as thoroughly done as a professional restoration.

We also say when it's a driver quality car, that means that there's flaws on it.

That means that there's some chips and rocks and buffs and cuffs and scuffs and

whatever.

Maybe the fit and finish isn't perfect.

When this one pulls into a car show, you'll know right away, right away.

This is a high end Bronco.

Yeah.

Yeah, there is no second guessing this particular Bronco.

So and it's got the double overhead cam 32 valve VA 4.6 liter custom interior.

Just can't say enough about it.

I guess I have them also a 52 Mercedes 220 a cabriolet very rare example.

1950s Mercedes convertible, one of 1287 or so built gray over our favorite

interior color oxblood.

That's right.

It's beauty.

And it's got the Carl bash BA I S C H luggage, which is a thing that I don't

know anything about probably by my butchering of the name of it.

That probably was a dead giveaway for those of you who do know what the probably

matching leather leather 2.2 liter 6 and a four speed manual transmission.

And back in the day at the time, most cars in the late 40s, early 50s would

only have three speed transmission.

So it was kind of a little bit of an unusual transportation option, if you will.

But I tell you, you know, the diversity of cars that we're getting in lately is

really amazing.

It is.

And the quality level of them has really gone up.

And there's some other ones we'll be talking about in the future shows.

Really amazing little 61 Buick Skylark coupe.

And you say, Hmm, what a 61 Skylark?

Well, that's kind of a odd duck.

And then, of course, the aforementioned Toyota Tacoma and the forerunner that we

got in that are both done up in that Toyota red and orange and white.

Right, right, right.

We'll talk about those and some just some really cool cars that we're getting.

You have great quality cars coming in and the Porsches, all kinds of things.

And then if you go on the website, you'll see that some of the barn finds are up

on the website.

Yeah, you see the whole gamut of quality.

We know, yeah, we now have 60 something of my partner's barn finds.

We've sold out of his 450 barn find collection about 120 in the past four years.

We haven't really pushed hard to sell.

I mean, a lot of them don't have titles.

A lot of them are in in less than desirable condition.

And we've sold off kind of from the bottom, the Model T that was basically in part

in a boxes that was all rusted and, you know, didn't run and hasn't run and whatever.

But now we're starting to get into the kind of the next level of these barn finds.

Ones that are pretty solid.

Probably we had them running.

They are desirable, not just a Model T that is not very desirable because there's

so many of them out there.

And so now we have 68 or 69 of the barn finds out there online.

And we'll be adding more of those.

We've picked about 100 that we want to keep.

Right.

One on being the 1923 Chevrolet-Wiedman camper that we have here that we'll never sell.

I might say never.

Never is a really long time, but that we never really want to sell.

And again, as cool as they are to see in person, the photography gets right down to

the nitty gritty, you see every angle, every piece of wood.

I mean, we take the same set of pictures on a non-run barn find that's been outside

for the last 30 years as we do a million dollar or anything.

Right.

We've got a couple of Edsles that are in the inventory.

We've got an Austin Healy sprite.

Restorable.

Yeah.

Um, yeah, that, uh, a studio Baker locomotive.

I saw that.

Yeah.

It's crazy.

A Crosley Farmo road fire engine.

Yeah.

That's just like a little miniature engine.

That thing is interesting.

A little Nash Metropolitan, some tractors, some bits as good project cars.

Yeah.

And a bit is basically a car that we really don't even know what it is.

It's got little bits of that.

It's got a little bit of everything to it.

And we really don't know, uh, but some really interesting, um, kind of grain type

trucks and half ton trucks.

We've got a GMC with a C cab, really a cool truck.

So again, we're kind of now we're going up to the, the, the next level.

We kind of sold from the bottom of the stuff.

That was probably more parts cars than anything.

These would be considered some of them still parts cars, some of them more, uh, a car

that you would say or vehicle or truck that you would say, I'm going to take this

and actually take it to the next level.

Um, and so, but give us a call.

We'll be glad to, you know, walk you through any of them and tell you what's good

and what's bad.

And again, if you go on our website, I mean, you're going to see every picture

of every angle, uh, that we can possibly get.

Unless it's too big to go on the lift, they all have undercarriage pictures.

Right.

Um, and speaking of too big for first stuff, uh, there was a, there's a limousine

just listed, right?

And he couldn't take a full side shot.

So there's two pics.

The first time ever I've seen this, maybe not because you have a tank truck too.

We do have a big tanker truck.

Two pictures of the side, beautiful limousine, by the way.

Well, there you go.

It's got like a third row.

If you want it and, uh, instead comes up in the middle.

Right.

That's, uh, I forget what it is.

We've got a duly that we got in.

It's like 19 and a half or 21 and a half feet long or what, which is long for

in a car, right?

It's probably my suit, my Packard Clipper super eight limousine.

Okay.

That probably, uh, is the one that you're just listed recently.

Yeah, that's it.

Black pack.

This is a cool car.

You know, a 46 Packard super clipper eight limousine is a

full CCCA classic, which is the classic car club of America's designation for

vehicles that, that they feel are significant, uh, in the history of the automobile.

Um, and, and there's a bunch of criteria for it.

Not every Packard is a CCCA classic and not every, I guess every Duesenberg is.

There's a, there's, there's some manufacturers that every model that they

ever made is a full classic.

And then there's others that, that are just certain era is usually pre war or war

time ish, close to there.

Uh, I don't know if there's any post war.

I guess not.

I guess there's not any post war cars because I think that would demean the

full CCCA, which is the classic car club of America.

So, um, but anyway, um, this one is a full CCCA classic.

It's a 46 Packard super clipper limousine with eight cylinder.

Is it a straight eight?

Yeah.

It would have been as I think, yeah, it's a straight eight engine in it, uh, or an

inline eight, as they call it.

165 horsepower.

Is that it?

I don't know what it weighs, but a lot.

You can camp out in the back seat though.

It does have overdrive.

Uh, it is the original engine and original transmission.

About that.

Um, so, which is unusual.

Um, you don't always find these, that's, you know, part of the problem with the

model T's and the model A's is that if they were titled with the engine number

and then you replace the engine, you didn't replace the title.

Right.

Then 25, 30 years later, you go, Oh, well, this isn't even close.

So anyway, um, we can get more into that one of these days, sure.

But when we return, um, we'll talk about, Oh, the car movies that we did, we didn't

get to talk about cannonball run and cannonball run two.

It would have been cannonball run one and then cannonball run two or just

cannonball and then it's like, it's like, if you're a band, did you name

yourself titled debut album?

Right.

Does it called one?

Van Halen one, Van Halen two.

Yeah.

Van Halen two was the thing.

Van Halen was just Van Halen.

Right.

So that's a whole other thing we can get into.

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We're talking about, you know, these, these podcasts that are out there and

the one that Donald Osborne and Jay Leno do, the odd drain concor and then the

odd drain museum and the odd drain, everything.

They have a big event we're sponsors of actually.

Now here are ringing.

Oh, that's that's the backup.

That's the backup.

Those damn things.

Those backup golf cards and the UPS trucks.

Anyway, well, legally, if you take off that beep and you hit somebody,

then you're in deep doo doo.

But we were talking about, it was funny, the Jay Leno and Donald Osborne were on

their odd drain concor show podcast the other day and their content was brilliant.

Steve watched it and affirms that.

Yeah, it's great.

And they were talking about 928 Porsches, which I have a whole thing on

928 Porsches.

So I guess they're trying to steal my.

No, it's six months.

It's a six month old video.

Well, I thought about this seven months ago.

Okay.

But, but the interesting thing that Steve noticed about it and, and not to put it

down because I mean, sure, they have way more listeners than we do.

That the lighting wasn't great.

The audio wasn't perfect.

It was just two guys having a conversation and it didn't need to be perfect.

You know, sometimes we try to make things too nice.

Right.

It's like restoring a car.

You know, you can make this thing perfect, but then you don't want to

drive it right because it's too nice.

Well, case in point, probably the biggest car YouTuber in current times, Doug

DeMuro, you know, he would wear a t-shirt.

He'd wear shorts, his camera.

He used his phone for a long time or a crappy, you know, video camera.

That's not about the technology.

It's about the content content is the most important thing.

And we've talked about how we could make our podcast here, you know, a little bit

more like a television show versus a podcast, because there are a gazillion

podcasts out there.

There's no hiding from that.

There's no saying, oh, we're, we're on the cutting edge of this.

We're on the back end of the back side of the downfall.

Yeah.

The downfall.

I might personally be responsible for the downfall.

Wouldn't that be a hell of a moniker to technology has made it so easy.

You can do one from your, your car practically, you know, if you look at

our studio, what we have built.

If you go back 20 years to build what we have here, to communicate the way we do

with the shows and to get it out to the, to Atlanta, America's Web Radio, or to

Spotify and all that would cost hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Yeah.

Or we didn't spend hundreds of thousands.

No, and you don't have to.

And you don't have to.

You could spend really for a mom and pop shop at home.

You can spend $2,000 and have a full set.

And usually you already have some of the equipment.

You already have use of the computer.

Right.

And then you need a microphone.

Well, you probably have that because you're doing zoom meetings because you've

been working from your house for all this time.

And then you have a camera that's, you know, good enough.

Yep.

And so you can do your own podcast.

It is, but you don't get, you know, the quality of me.

You don't get the voice, the golden voice of Tennessee.

The golden voice of Tennessee.

You don't get that.

And I don't think you can buy that.

And the knowledge.

I mean, you know, we certainly have a lot of knowledge.

Well, we have a lot of knowledge because we've been doing this for a long time.

Correct.

We don't claim to be experts on, on really anything, but sales sales are

really good at that.

Consignment.

Good at consigning.

We're about as good at consigning as you could possibly.

Business model.

It's a great business model.

But we're not, you know, we're not experts on every single car that comes

through the door because we're not going out and seeking out these cars per se.

We're not going out and buying them and saying, okay, I want to buy a 67 Mustang

GTA 390, but we're not doing that.

We're taking kind of what we get sometimes.

And not that that's a bad thing, but it's just we don't know.

We're taking cars that we don't necessarily maybe have a personal

interest in, whereas if you're buying cars, you tend to gravitate towards

buying cars that you have an interest in, that you have knowledge about, that

you know the details about.

I can't tell you much about a bullet nose 51 Studebaker.

You know, I just don't know a lot about it, except it looks like a bullet

nose and usually comes in turquoise or something like that.

The level of detail on an individual car is just mind boggling.

Pete does a great job of the descriptions and really does his digging,

does his due diligence and all that stuff.

And every once in a while, you might miss a factoid or get something a little

bit wrong.

And you know what?

We're OK.

Send us an email and say, hey, look, I think you missed this or that color is

not called Bolero Red.

It's called Ruby Red, right?

Whatever the case may be.

And we're OK with that.

You know, I mean, again, we write, you know, we've, we've, we've

consigned 4,627 cars since we started and we've written lengthy descriptions

on every single car and it's been done by one guy.

Right, right.

So and there's no way he could do this without the internet.

Can you imagine?

No, you'd have to live in a library.

The New York, he'd have to literally phone it in from the New York public

library and somehow have to transcribe it and write it here.

I mean, it would be that difficult to do.

It would be hell on earth.

Well, if you think back to loading cars on the internet for sale, I remember

when we physically had to load cars, individual pictures one at a time

onto Hemmings or classicars.com or any of the different sites that we use.

So it would take, Kathy, my wife would do it and it would take her 30 minutes

for each car to load and now you hit a button and it goes, boom, every single,

you know, place that we advertise on every single classic car website, which

is well over 60 now.

We about 40 of them we actually load to.

And then another 20 are ones that pick up from Hemmings and classiccars.com

and they load them on their site, but it's not untoward.

They're doing it and still our contact info and how to reach us is there.

And they're not, all they're trying to do is just drive traffic to their site,

but they're not offering it for sale.

Now that's a whole another story that does happen.

People do take our pictures and our descriptions and put them out there for

half the price and we get calls about once a week on that where somebody says,

you know, I think we've, your pictures are familiar and there's a guy's in Seattle

and I don't think you're in Seattle and he's got your same pictures of your cars.

So our pictures are distinct.

They vary distinctly.

When they pop up on the internet, I noticed right away.

And I don't think very distinct is even correct because there's no defining

definite, distinct is just distinct.

Can't qualify.

You can't quantify or qualify distinct is just distinct.

It can't be very distinct.

Or very perfect.

It's just kind of distinct.

Yeah.

It's distinct ish.

Yeah.

Right.

So anyway, getting to our movies of the week.

Okay.

And we don't do this every week.

So no, call it movies of the week.

We try.

I have a whole list of movies that we can talk about.

Car movies, car movies.

The problem is going to be back in the day.

They, they quantified their success by the box office.

How do you do it today?

Cause a lot of movies aren't even downloads.

I don't know how do you know that?

And how do you, it'll be interesting to see how that quantifies.

I mean, wouldn't you hate to be an actor today?

Uh, yeah.

Yes.

I mean, especially a B level actor, right?

Like somebody, you know, who hadn't had a hit in a few years.

Well, like, like we were talking about podcast being just thousands of

podcasts, there's so many television shows that you, even if you made it onto a

show that's on some weird cable channel, nobody sees nobody would see it.

Nobody would know weird world we're in.

Yeah.

So the car movies that we're going to talk about, we're actually talking about

two cannonball run and cannonball run two, a cannonball run released in 1981.

And I tell you what, I was 19 years old.

Right.

This was cool.

There's a Lamborghini Countach in it.

There was all kinds of cool cars.

Bert Reynolds, who was, you know, the hero of all heroes.

And of course, you know, smoking the bandit had been out.

Uh, it was directed by the stuntman.

Hal Needham was a stuntman who did smoking the bandit and cannonball run.

Uh, and it was produced by Albert Ruddy, the guy who produced the Godfather.

Oh, wow.

Yeah.

And, you know, walked away from Godfather two to produce the cannonball run.

Okay.

Seems like a step back.

Right.

Just, just dismissed it.

Although nothing, you know, to take away from cannonball run, but it's no Godfather,

right?

Right.

Not, it's not professional suicide, but it's no, exactly.

But it's, you see it from there.

And of course, Albert Ruddy is the one who created, co-created Hogan's Heroes.

So, oh, wow.

And if you think about the premise of Hogan's Heroes, how would that ever work?

A Nazi prison camp, a comedy?

We would laugh.

We were in a laugh track.

Yeah.

That's not going to fly.

Different time.

And it did fly.

It was, it was a funny show.

It was really a great show.

But he's, that's how he got started.

Okay.

And, and cannonball run was written by Brock Yates, right?

Uh, who was a journalist, a print and television journalist, a screenwriter,

author, uh, he was a car and driver magazine.

Back in the days when car and driver was really cool.

Yeah.

They were a reverent and funny and cocky and got to test all the cool cars.

Not woke.

They were, they were sleepy.

Yeah, that was great.

Not woky.

Brock's, Brock was the man.

He was the man.

His son lives around here.

Yeah, he does live around here.

I'd love to get him on the show.

We can do that.

Well, you better put it on your list.

I will.

But, uh, yeah, Brock Yates and, and, and car and driver magazine.

The first, I remember one of the first issues of car and driver that I read,

which had been 75 ish, I was about 13 years old and they were testing the 930

turbo portion of the new turbo portion that had just been reduced.

And I don't know the way they wrote was just made you go back and read sentences

twice and not many car magazines made you do that back in the day because they

were, they were smart and they were funny and they were not maybe a little arrogant.

But they didn't take themselves too seriously and it was a comedy.

Yeah.

And they always, and they, once a year in April, they would test, uh, you know,

something oddball like a 16 wheel construction, dirt hauler that works out

in the salt mines and whatever.

So anyway, Brock Yates, really cool.

And he also kind of invented the cannonball run, uh, inducted into the

Motorsports Hall of Fame in 2017.

And, uh, now for, let's see.

Cannonball run released in 1981, uh, the box office, $160 million.

It did at the box office.

The budget was 16 to $18 million.

So that's a winner.

Now, full disclosure, I'll have to tell our listeners.

My father-in-law was in that movie.

Was he?

Yes, he was.

Mel Tillis.

He sure was.

I remember that.

With Terry Bradshaw.

Right.

They were buddies.

Oh, that's great.

And they drove the stock car into the swimming pool.

Okay.

Yeah.

And, uh, and actually there was a funny Mel and, and Terry Bradshaw story.

Uh, back in the day, they, they were truly buddies.

They hung out.

Oh, wow.

Yeah.

And, uh, Terry was over at Mel's house one Saturday.

And Mel was slated to host Nashville Now, the television show that the host was

going to be out sick or on vacation or Mel was going to host it.

He and Terry Bradshaw were messing around out by the swimming pool at Mel's

house and Terry picked, Mel was six, two.

Was he really?

Yeah.

And Terry grabbed Mel by his swimming suits in the nape of his neck and was

throwing him in the pool, threw him all the way across the pool, into the

concrete wall on the other side, busted his face up, had to host

Nashville Now with a buzzer.

Is that right?

I bet you can find that on YouTube.

Oh yeah.

It'd be hilarious.

Wow.

So, um, the, the Cannonball run, uh, starring Bert Reynolds, Roger Moore,

007, who was still in the 007 franchise at the time, um, Fairfaucet,

Dom Della, who's Dean Martin, Sammy Davis, Jr.

Oh yeah.

Rat Packers.

Mel Tillis and, uh, Terry Bradshaw and, uh, so, you know, the first cross

country drive was done in 1903 from San Francisco to New York City.

Nelson Jackson and his mechanic, 64 days in a Winton, a 1903 Winton touring car.

64 days.

What's, what do you think the record is?

Cross country.

Yeah.

I'm not going to look at the notes, but yeah, don't do that.

Uh, it's got to be less than a day.

Yeah.

Right.

Not much less.

Yeah.

25 hours and 30 minutes in 2020, 2016 Audi S6.

Nice.

Average speed.

110 miles per hour.

That's hard to average 110 legally.

Yeah.

Isn't that amazing?

That is amazing.

25 hours and 30 minutes.

I drove from Knoxville, Tennessee to Los Angeles, California in little over 48

hours by myself with no radio.

How about that?

I was delirious.

I took no dose boxes.

You don't know what no dose is.

It's a legal upper.

Legal upper.

Really?

There's just much of caffeine.

It's like a five hour energy drink.

Uh-oh.

We're out of time, but we did a Philly to Las Vegas in two and a half days.

And the only reason it took that long is because we stopped at night in Colorado

because he wanted to see the Rockies.

Right.

And it was, we were in an 84 Corvette in 1985.

I was in a 75 Transant in 1981-ish.

So anyway, Cannonball Run 2 released an 84.

Budget was $22 million, made $56 million.

Siskel and Ebert said it was the worst movie ever.

And it also had Frank Sinatra in it too.

So everybody wanted to work with Frank Sinatra.

So anyway, next week when we return, we'll have somebody on.

And in the coming weeks, we've got Corky Coker, former CEO of Coker Tire and Ken

Gross, my friend, the writer who wrote for all kinds of still rights for all kinds

of magazines and is a Concord the Elegance judge.

Awesome.

So catch us next time or catch us on the web, classicautomall.com.

We'll see you next time.

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