Cadillac’s V-Series is their set of performance models. The point they’re making is that racing experience helps make these regular cars feel faster and more exciting.
Car
Cadillac CT5V Blackwing
The CT5V Blackwing is Cadillac’s performance-focused CT5. “Blackwing” is basically the badge for the most serious, track-inspired version of that model.
Cadillac is talking about a “V” version of its electric Lyriq. The “V” badge usually means it’s been tuned to feel more performance-focused than the regular car.
The OPTIQ V is a more performance-oriented version of the OPTIQ. The “V” badge usually means it’s been tuned to drive more sharply than the regular model.
Formula One (F1) is the highest level of open-wheel racing. It’s where teams race in Grand Prix events, and drivers usually have to prove themselves in lower series first.
A test driver helps a racing team by learning and evaluating the car. Sometimes they also drive during practice sessions so the team can see how well they perform.
The “Grand Prix grid” is the list of drivers who are allowed to start an F1 race. Getting on the grid means you’ve earned a real race seat with an F1 team.
Concept
IndyCar legend Brian Herter
They mention Brian Herter as a well-known IndyCar figure. The point is that Colton grew up around racing, which can help shape how he learns to drive and compete.
Company
Cadillacs HQ
They’re talking about where the seat work is being done. Racing seats are custom-fit to the driver, and that kind of work usually happens at a specialized facility.
Two-part foam is used to create a custom driver seat insert or mold. The foam conforms to the driver’s body, improving comfort and reducing movement during high loads, then it’s typically processed further for weight and fit.
A “bead seat” is a seat insert filled with tiny beads that shift to match your body. The goal is the same as foam: keep the driver comfortable and held in place.
After the initial seat-molding step, the insert is “scanned” to capture the exact driver contours. Scanning enables precise manufacturing of a lighter, final insert while preserving the fit achieved during the mold stage.
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European open-wheel cars vs US open-wheel cars
He’s saying the cars built for Europe and the cars built for the US can feel different in the cockpit. That affects where your body sits and how you reach the controls.
“Back positioning” is basically how the driver sits—how reclined or upright the seat feels. Changing that angle can change how far you reach for the pedals and how the car feels when you drive. He’s saying the seat/back setup is similar, but the legs being higher changes the feel.
In open-wheel race cars, the “tub” is the cockpit tub/structure around the driver’s seat. When it rises higher at the front, it can reduce forward visibility by blocking the driver’s line of sight. Herta connects this to the cockpit being set up with higher foot/leg placement, which changes both comfort and what the driver can see.
In a race car, a heel rest is a little platform that supports your heel while you press the pedals. Some drivers like it because it helps them keep their foot position steady. Herta says he doesn’t like it because he presses the pedals with his toes, and the heel rest gets in the way of how his foot wants to move.
Karting is usually the first step for racing drivers. Drivers learn how to control the car with small, precise inputs before they move to faster race cars.
Throttle travel is how far you have to move the gas pedal to go from “off” to “full.” Some setups make the car respond sooner or later, which can help you drive more smoothly.
Teams use winter testing to try out upgrades and get ready for the season. It’s like practice with the actual race car so they can learn what changes work.
Barcelona is a major European motorsport venue, and it’s commonly used for winter testing because it offers reliable conditions and a well-known circuit. In this segment, the speaker emphasizes how much of the off-season testing for multiple series happens there, making it familiar territory.
F4, F3, and F2 are lower-level racing series that help drivers work their way up toward F1. The speaker is saying those series also do a lot of testing in the same places.
Term
relearn two corners
Even at familiar circuits, drivers may need to relearn specific corners due to layout tweaks, curb/surface changes, or evolving racing lines. In testing, that relearning affects how quickly a driver can reach consistent lap times and provide useful feedback to engineers.
Curbs are the raised edges at the side of the track. If the curb shape changes, the car can bounce or grip differently when you run over it, so drivers may need to adjust their line.
The track surface can get rough or uneven over time. That can make the tires grip differently and can make the car feel bumpy, so drivers have to adapt.
IndyCar is a major American open-wheel racing series, and being an IndyCar race winner signals high-level experience with racecraft and car setup work. While this segment is about F1 testing, the mention frames the guest’s credibility as a top-tier driver.
They’re talking about how practice in Formula One feels different from other racing series. The big theme is how drivers manage tires and energy during practice.
A run plan is basically the team’s schedule for practice. It tells the driver what to do—like how long to run and when to push—so the team can learn how the car behaves.
Tires are what actually grip the road, so their condition matters a lot. If the tires are too hot, too cold, or wearing out, the car won’t feel as fast or predictable.
It’s a driving pattern where you go fast, then ease off to let the tires cool down, then go fast again. The goal is to keep the tires working in the best grip range.
Some F1 cars use a hybrid system that can store energy in a battery. During practice, you learn how to build up that stored energy and when to use it for extra power.
Formula E is a racing series where the cars are fully electric. It’s meant to show how fast and capable electric cars can be, while teams manage battery energy during races.
WEC is endurance racing—think longer races where teams have to manage the car over time. It’s not just about being fastest for a few laps; it’s about lasting and executing strategy.
NASCAR is a popular U.S. racing series with cars that are based on production models. The racing style and track types are different from open-wheel racing.
IndyCar is a major racing series in the U.S. It’s different from Formula 1, but it’s still open-wheel racing, so it’s a common place for drivers to follow while they’re thinking about F1.
Sauber is a Formula 1 racing team. The host is saying Herta was close to getting a spot with that team, which is a big deal because F1 seats are limited.
Company
Alpha Tower
This sounds like another Formula 1 team interest. The name in the transcript likely refers to AlphaTauri, which is connected to Red Bull’s F1 setup.
To race in Formula 1, drivers need special permission called a Super Licence. If you don’t meet the rules or points in time, it can become a big obstacle to getting into F1.
Concept
count my lucky stars
It’s an expression meaning “I’m really glad things worked out for me.” In racing, opportunities can depend on timing and team decisions, so it fits the context.
IndyCar is a major racing series in the U.S. Saying “IndyCar side” means he’s talking about the people and experience he built while racing in that series.
“F2” is a racing series that helps drivers get ready for Formula 1. It’s where young drivers prove they can race well and improve their skills before moving up.
They’re talking about how editing works for longer interview episodes. The goal is to keep the conversation flowing and interesting over a longer time.
Concept
simulator pace
Simulator pace is how fast someone seems to be in the simulator. It can be a good clue, but real races can feel different, so it doesn’t always match perfectly.
Mercedes is one of the biggest Formula 1 teams. Here it’s mentioned because the driver was associated with Mercedes before coming to do cockpit setup work.
A seat fit is the process of adjusting a driver’s cockpit position—seat position, steering wheel reach, pedal spacing, and often the seat insert—to match the driver’s body. In F1, this affects comfort, control, and how effectively the driver can apply steering and braking forces.
Company
Alfa Towery deal
This sounds like a business or sponsorship deal involving Alfa Romeo. The transcript wording is a bit unclear, but it’s being mentioned as an off-track development rather than a car tech detail.
In Formula 1, the paddock is like the teams’ backstage area at the race. It’s where people meet, plan, and handle day-to-day team business—not where the cars race.
In racing, a contract is the official agreement to drive for a team. But you still have to meet certain rules and paperwork requirements, so sometimes drivers have to sign elsewhere if they can’t get cleared in time.
This is Red Bull’s program for finding and training young race drivers. It helps them get experience, coaching, and chances to progress toward Formula One.
Formula 3 is a more advanced step in junior open-wheel racing. It’s where drivers move up from the earlier series and start racing with more demanding cars.
British F4 is a stepping-stone racing series for young drivers. It’s where drivers learn and prove themselves before moving to bigger, faster categories.
A mechanic helps keep the race car working and helps adjust it for performance. Living with the mechanic suggests Colton was around the car and the people who set it up all the time, which can speed up learning.
Races are the actual competitions. Test days are practice sessions where the team tries different settings and the driver learns how the car behaves. Doing a lot of both in a year means you improve fast, but it’s also a huge grind.
Fast corners are the high-speed turns where you can’t just slow down a lot—you have to keep the car moving well. If someone is quick through them, it usually means they’re smooth and confident at keeping speed without losing control.
Concept
learning at that age / refining everything
In junior single-seater racing, early success often comes from raw talent, but progression depends on refining technique—like braking consistency, corner entry/exit discipline, and adapting to different cars. The idea here is that as drivers move up the ladder, the remaining weaknesses tend to shrink because everyone is already highly skilled.
They’re talking about how racing feels different depending on where you are—like the UK versus the US. Even if the driving terms and techniques are similar, the way fans and teams show passion can change.
Oversteer is when the back of the car starts to slide out more than you want in a turn. It can feel like the car is “turning itself” too much, and it can get you into trouble if you can’t control it.
Understeer is when the car won’t “turn in” enough, so it keeps going straight and drifts toward the outside of the turn. It usually means the front tires aren’t gripping as well as the driver expects.
They’re debating whether racing feels more intense in Europe than elsewhere. The point is to explain why drivers might choose to move there to face tougher competition.
A go-kart track is where kids and beginners race small, simple cars. Racing karts early helps people learn the basics of driving and racing really well.
Concept
specialists at any sort of racing or any sort of track
They’re saying that really good racers can be found anywhere. If someone spends a lot of time on a particular track or type of racing, they can become an expert.
“Junior formula” is the ladder of racing series for young drivers. It’s where drivers learn skills and get coached so they’re ready for bigger, faster racing later.
Driver development is the structured process of improving a racer’s skills—car control, racecraft, feedback to engineers, and adapting to different setups. In junior categories, teams often emphasize this more than pure results, because the goal is to graduate drivers who can learn quickly at higher levels.
Track time is how long you get to drive on the race track. The more time you spend there, the more you learn what works—like where to brake and how to take turns.
IRL was a top-level open-wheel racing league in the U.S. It later became part of what we now call IndyCar.
Concept
Dario Franckini
Dario Franckini is someone being credited with influencing Colton’s early path. In racing, having the right people around you can help you get started and keep progressing.
A track day is when people go to a race track to drive and practice. It’s a way to learn how the track feels and how to drive better without the full pressure of a race.
Car
Minardi TC
Minardi was a racing team in Formula One. The “TC” is the name of one of their race cars from that time. They’re talking about it because it shows how close the family was to high-level open-wheel racing.
Donnington refers to Donington Park in the UK, a well-known motorsport circuit used for testing and racing. In the segment, it’s where the Minardi TC was driven, and it’s also where Justin Wilson was testing, showing the setting for open-wheel activity.
Formula 1 (F1) is the top level of open-wheel racing, with highly engineered cars and strict technical rules. Watching F1 is often a way fans and aspiring drivers learn how race strategy, tire management, and car setup work together.
Concept
F2
F2 is like a stepping-stone series for young race drivers. It’s where drivers learn how to race in cars that are closer to Formula 1, but not quite as fast or high-profile.
Car
IndyCar
IndyCar is a major U.S. open-wheel racing series. Even though it’s still a race car, the driving feel changes because the tires, power delivery, and cockpit setup are different than other open-wheel categories.
When you accelerate in a race car, the transmission changes gears. How fast and how smoothly it does that can change how much grip you have when you’re trying to go faster.
The halo is a safety device used in modern open-wheel racing: a curved titanium structure that sits in front of the driver’s head to help protect against debris and impacts. Drivers often describe getting used to it visually and physically, and it can also change how they perceive wind and airflow.
Term
arrow screen
The “arrow screen” sounds like IndyCar’s extra protective screen in front of the driver. The host is comparing it to the halo to explain how both protect the driver, but in slightly different ways.
SOC 2 is a checklist-style standard companies follow to prove they handle security and customer data responsibly. If a business is “SOC 2 ready,” it usually means they’ve set up controls and processes to protect information.
GRC is a way companies organize how they handle rules, risks, and oversight. It’s basically “how we make sure we’re compliant and managing risk the right way.”
Formula 2 is a stepping-stone racing series that helps drivers get ready for Formula 1. The key idea here is that the weekend doesn’t give you much time to practice, so you have to get up to speed fast.
Topic
Melbourne
They mention Melbourne as an example of a track where it’s easy to get it wrong during practice. The point is that mistakes can be especially costly when you don’t have much time to recover.
They’re saying you have to improve quickly over the weekend. Since there isn’t much time to practice, you can’t afford to be slow to understand the car and the track.
The Daewoo Statesman is a regular passenger car made by Daewoo. It’s meant for everyday driving and comfort, like a typical family sedan. People might mention it when talking about older Daewoo models and what they were like.
Qualifying pace means how fast you can go on your best lap during qualifying. It’s not the same as race pace because qualifying is all about getting the car to perform at its peak for a short time.
Race management is the set of decisions and execution that keep a driver fast over an entire race, not just a single lap. It includes managing tires, fuel strategy, traffic, and when to push versus when to protect the car and position.
Lewis Hamilton is one of the top Formula One drivers ever. Debating his best season usually means looking at how many races he won and how consistently he performed.
A podium is finishing 1st, 2nd, or 3rd. “Nine consecutive podiums” means he kept finishing in the top three race after race, which is very hard to do in F1.
“Around the outside” means passing a driver by going the longer way around the corner instead of the inside. At turn one, it’s harder because everyone is close together right at the start.
“Pit it earlier” means stopping for tires sooner. In F1, when you pit can make a big difference because tires wear out and the timing affects where you come back on track.
They’re talking about Formula 2 adding races in Miami and Montreal. Since the tracks are new for most drivers, it can make results feel more even because everyone is learning at the same time.
They’re basically saying that if a track is new for everyone, nobody has a big head start. That can make it easier to compare drivers fairly because everyone is learning the circuit at the same time.
They’re talking about races coming up in North America—one in Canada and one in Miami. It’s exciting because it’s a big deal to have these events on the calendar in the U.S. and Canada.
They’re praising the city of Montreal and saying the track looks great. In Formula 1, Montreal is famous for a challenging circuit that drivers talk about a lot.
They’re saying it was surprising that Formula 2 would have a race in the U.S. It matters because it brings the feeder series closer to American fans and gives drivers more opportunities.
F1 is the highest level of open-wheel racing. When they talk about advice “from an F1 point of view,” they mean guidance aimed at succeeding at the very top series.
A “chassis” is basically the car’s main structure. If the chassis is different, the car can feel totally different to drive, even if the race series sounds similar.
“In the points” means you finished high enough to earn score toward the championship. Even if you don’t win, scoring points helps your overall ranking.
A pole is when you qualify fastest and start the race from the very front. It’s a big deal because it shows you were quickest in the qualifying session.
Prep work is everything you do before the actual racing—practice planning, simulator practice, and getting ready physically and mentally. The point is to show up to the track with a plan instead of guessing.
Sim days are practice sessions in a computer racing setup. It helps drivers try things and learn the track without going out on the real track every time.
He’s talking about keeping his mind focused by separating what’s happening now from what’s coming later. Instead of worrying about the next test or track, he concentrates on the one thing he needs to do today.
Company
high-tech
“High-tech” sounds like a specific team or facility he works with for the technical part of his prep. He’s saying it’s close by, so he can easily go back and forth to keep working.
Concept
Miami Prep
“Miami Prep” suggests preparation specifically for the Miami race weekend, including simulator work and setup planning. In F1, each track has unique braking zones, corners, and grip characteristics, so teams tailor preparation to that event.
Term
massive displacement VA kicks in
He’s describing how the engine suddenly feels like it’s really coming alive—more power and a different sound. It’s the kind of change you can feel as you approach the pit lane.
A bump start is starting a vehicle by rolling it and engaging the drivetrain so the engine fires from momentum. In racing, it’s often discussed as a procedure tied to how the car’s systems behave and how the driver manages the start sequence.
A turbocharged engine uses a device that compresses air before it goes into the engine. That helps the engine make more power, and it’s one reason turbos are common today.
A hybrid uses both gas power and electric power. The electric part helps with acceleration and efficiency, and it’s becoming more common in modern cars and race programs.
McLaren is the racing brand they’re talking about for a test session. They’re using it as a reference point to compare driving feel and performance to F1.
The discussion asks whether there are parallels between driving an F1 car and other high-performance race cars. This is a driving-technique comparison topic—how throttle/brake modulation, steering inputs, and car balance translate across categories.
Linear acceleration means the car feels like it’s pulling smoothly and steadily, not surging and then falling off. He’s impressed that the F1 car’s shove felt consistent.
As a car gets near its top speed, it usually starts accelerating less because the air resistance gets huge. He’s saying the F1 car kept accelerating instead of slowing down near its top-speed area.
Normally, lower gears feel much stronger than higher gears. He’s saying the F1 car’s pull felt almost as strong in second gear as it did in fifth, which is unusual.
Braking later means you wait longer before slowing down for a turn. If you can do that consistently, it usually means the car has strong grip and braking confidence.
Topic
Port Amau
They’re talking about a particular race track and why it’s useful for testing. The track has different types of corners and changes in elevation, which helps you practice the same kinds of challenges you’d see in Formula 1.
Racetracks don’t all turn the same way. Some corners want you to hit the turn later (late apex), some have two “best” points (double apex), and some are tilted so the tires don’t get as much grip (off-camber). That’s why drivers have to practice different lines.
A two-day test is a short practice window. Usually day one is about getting comfortable and figuring out what the car is doing, and day two is about using that knowledge to go faster and be more consistent.
Overdriving is when you push harder than you’re used to, on purpose, to learn how close you are to losing traction. After you learn that limit, you can drive more consistently and faster.
After you try things and learn what’s happening, you don’t just go faster—you make small improvements. “Refine” means adjusting your driving and the car so it behaves better every lap, not just when you get it right by luck.
Instead of thinking about the whole lap at once, drivers focus on each turn separately. If you get better at every corner, the lap gets faster and more consistent.
Car
2021 McLaren
They mean a McLaren race car from the 2021 Formula 1 season. It’s the kind of car that gets updated and tuned for that year’s racing, and Ricciardo drove it.
Topic
Monzerie
They’re talking about Monza, a famous race track in Italy. It’s known for fast sections and hard braking, so small setup changes can make a big difference.
They’re talking about the car’s computer data—numbers that show how the car is performing. Teams look at it to figure out what to change so the car goes faster.
Lap time is simply how fast the car can go around the track. Racers chase tiny improvements because they add up over many laps.
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Racing drivers are never satisfied and they never give up on a challenge.
Colton Herter, IndyCar star, IndyCar race winner,
and surely a champion of the future, isn't happy with that path.
For many years, he's been chasing Formula One.
He came close before and he thought he'd missed his moment.
It was disappointing.
You know, when that didn't happen, I was like,
look, okay, probably won't have another opportunity.
And then this came around and I was like,
geez, count my lucky stars.
Cadillac have given him a chance.
But if he's going to drive for them in F1, he's got to earn it.
He knows that means putting the work in.
My goal of coming over here and doing F2
is to prepare myself to be a Formula One driver the best I can with Cadillac in mind.
Having this opportunity to try to get there
and try to achieve that dream and that goal of being a Formula One driver
is very easy for me to say yes to.
Hello, everyone.
I'm Tom Clarkson and this is F1 Beyond the Grid
and a chat with one of the most intriguing drivers in the paddock today.
What Colton Herter is doing is so unusual,
walking away from a successful IndyCar career
to try and work his way up from Formula Two to Formula One.
That's going to be tough.
F2 is a difficult category and Colton's having to learn a new way of driving.
As Cadillac's test driver,
he'll get to drive their F1 car in practice sessions this year,
but he wants to prove that he belongs on a Grand Prix grid.
We talk about Colton's love of motorsport,
watching his dad, Indy legend Brian Herter,
racing when he was just a few weeks old,
moving to Europe as a teenager to race alongside Lando Norris
and his determination to get to F1.
Colton is committed and he's a true racer.
I think you'll enjoy getting to know him.
Colton, thanks for your time. How are you?
Good. How are you?
I'm good. Welcome to Blighty. Welcome to England.
We're speaking at Silverstone at Cadillacs HQ,
where you're having a seat fit in the MAC26.
Look, are you snug in there? How comfortable are you in the car?
It's definitely like a pinch me moment,
like a realisation of how close it is and how close to driving it is.
But yeah, getting comfortable.
Is the process the same?
Every seat fit, whether it's an Indy car, a sports car,
a Formula One car, is the process the same?
I think at this point, generally, yes.
You either use some form of two-part foam or a bead seat,
then you get it shipped off to go get it scanned
and make it lighter, basically.
And I think that's pretty general
across all the stuff that I've done so far.
Is the driving position in Formula One different
to what you've experienced before?
Yes. Well, I think for the most part,
the European open-wheel cars are different to the US
open-wheel cars, apart from a few in the US.
But if you look at a lot of the European cars,
where your legs are, the car bumps up quite a bit and comes up.
So your feet are raised quite a bit compared to the Indy car.
So I would say the back positioning is similar,
but your feet are a little bit higher.
And the visibility is a little bit less because of that,
because the tub comes up on the front a bit more.
So are you lying down more?
Maybe a little bit, but I would say the back positioning
and how the back starts to come up is similar.
It's just a little bit of a different feel,
because you got your legs up here instead of maybe down here.
Yeah. And what are your particular preferences?
Do you like to be close to the wheel?
Where do you want the pedals?
You know, I think it depends.
I would say generally, it's pretty normal in average
compared to a lot of drivers,
but the only thing that's weird about me
is I don't like to run a heel rest.
And that's because when I push the pedal,
instead of going on like this, I actually push with my toes.
And so my heel comes up.
And so if I run a heel rest, then I can't get forward with my heel.
It kind of stops it.
So that's one weird thing about me.
Well, there's probably a lot, but that's one of them.
What is it about your toes?
Why do you?
I don't know. I think it's something that I picked up in karting
and it's been like that ever since.
Do you have a lot of throttle travel?
No, everything else is pretty normal about how I set the car up.
But that's one weird thing.
I mean, I can run a heel rest.
I just, it never gets used,
because my heel ends up just flying over the thing.
The reason you're having the seat fit,
and you alluded to it earlier,
is that Cadillac have just announced
that you're going to be doing four FP ones for the team.
Starting in Barcelona, which is a great racetrack to kick it all off.
How much are you looking forward to that?
I mean, so much.
It's always my goal of coming over here and doing this
and doing F2 is to prepare myself to be a Formula One driver
the best I can and with Cadillac in mind, right?
So it's cool to see that kind of coming together.
My first taste of the car in Barcelona is going to be super special.
That's a place that a lot of us drivers know really well.
Basically, all of winter testing in Formula One for a long time
has taken place in Spain or Portugal.
And when it's in Spain, it's usually at Barcelona.
But people don't tell you that when it's cheaper to run and race cars
in F4 and F3, even in F2,
basically all your testing happens in Barcelona,
or about 80% of it through the winter.
So it's a place that's somewhat familiar to me.
Still, I haven't been back there since 2016, 10 years ago,
but the track hasn't changed too much.
We have a little bit of a different layout.
I think the last two corners.
The last two corners, but I'll take that.
There's a lot of places that I haven't been to
and I have to learn 20 corners.
So if I have to relearn two corners, I'll take that.
That's fine.
Some of the curb profiling changes and some of the abrasions
on the tracks or bumps might change here there.
But for the most part, it's a place that I'll be pretty comfortable with, I think.
And yeah, looking forward to it.
I'm super excited for it.
It's going to be super cool.
You've done a lot of testing in your time.
You're an IndyCar race winner.
Do you expect the rhythm of a practice session in Formula One
to be different to what you've experienced before?
Yeah.
Well, I mean, it's always going to be different
no matter what you step into,
whether it's like for the first time for me stepping into
like the BMW GTP car or the Cadillac GTP
or the IndyCar or IndyLights car,
everything has its little nuances and differences
and run plans and how the car is.
And most of it's kind of dictated by the tire.
Whereas in Formula One, you see a lot more push-cool-push kind of sequences
rather than maybe an IndyCar, you might get two pushes in a row.
So stuff like that might be a little bit different.
You have to charge the battery a lot more
when you're doing these push-cool-push sequences.
There will be some differences and the car will feel different.
But at the end of the day, it's still an engine and four tires
and you have to try to go as fast as possible
and you kind of learn by doing.
So those practice sessions are going to see you
even more immersed in the Cadillac team, aren't they?
Yeah.
And that's something that I'm looking forward to, right?
Because for me, it's the ultimate goal.
And the objective is to try to be there as a race driver.
You know, so to kind of plug myself in
and get a little bit of the look of what
Valter and Checo get to do every weekend is going to be super cool.
And it's also an opportunity for me to try to help the team
and try to do a lot of learning on my own,
but try to help them achieve their goal on a race weekend.
Colton, tell us then about this passion for Formula One.
Because looking from the outside in,
you're a man who had it all in IndyCar,
you were respected by your peers,
you were winning races, what was your second couple of years ago.
The Indy 500 hasn't happened yet,
but I'm sure it would have done in time.
What is it about Formula One that has made you walk away from all of that?
There's a mutual respect and mutual love for me on both fronts.
You know, when I grew up as a kid,
my first race I was two weeks old was an IndyCar race, right?
And as soon as I kind of grew up a little bit
and learned more about other motorsports,
you know, my second interest was IMSA,
because my father was racing there in 2006, 2007, with the Acura.
And so I was really interested in those cars at that time.
And then I kind of learned about Formula One a little bit later,
maybe nine or 10 years old and got addicted to that.
But for me, I'm just a motorsports fan.
And there are so many things that I want to drive.
But at the top of the list, right there with IndyCar is Formula One,
for me, on a personal level.
So having this opportunity to try to get there
and try to achieve that dream and that goal of being a Formula One driver,
you know, I saw it as a great opportunity.
It's very easy for me to say yes to.
You know, for me, it's just being a motorsport fan, right?
Like on my off weekend, I'm watching Formula E here.
I'm watching Formula One if I'm not there,
IndyCar, NASCAR, whatever it might be, WEC.
For me, I don't really follow any other sports.
So it's really just motorsport.
And I just like it.
I like watching it.
I have a great respect for a lot of different guys in the sport
that do all these different racing series and whatnot.
So it's cool to kind of be able to try new things.
And this is the opportunity and something that I really want.
Has it been an odd experience for you this year?
You know, like, have you been looking over your shoulder
at what's been going on in IndyCar?
I mean, I'm speaking to you now when IndyCar is in Long Beach,
one of the iconic races.
Does it feel a bit weird?
Being here and not there?
I would say the first few weekends was,
they were a little bit weird, a little bit strange.
Like, oh, hey, like I should,
like the last eight years I've been there doing that.
And then you change and whatnot.
So just like anything, like you get a new job in life
and it's a little bit weird at first,
but then you get settled into it
and it feels normal and natural.
And that's kind of where I'm at.
But, you know, I will say it is weird to kind of watch IndyCar races
for, still for a little bit.
But no, it's been cool.
It's been cool to be a fan of it.
People watching this, listening to this,
may not be aware that you've been on the fringes of F1 for a while.
You know, five years ago,
almost got across the line with Sauber,
then there was interest from Alpha Tower as well
and then there was the super licensed drama.
Has all of those disappointments fueled the desire
to get into Formula One even more?
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, I think, look, this is a sport
and first and foremost, it's a business, right?
It's got to put out money and got to collect money.
And so I understand that and I understand that side of it,
but it was disappointing, you know,
to have those two instances where I thought,
maybe not so much on the Sauber one.
I thought there's a chance with that one,
but the Alpha Tower deal seemed very real to me.
And then, you know, when that didn't happen,
I was like, look, okay, kind of getting up there in age,
probably won't have another opportunity.
And then this came around and I was like,
geez, count my lucky stars.
This is an amazing opportunity
and to have the people that are involved in it,
be involved in it is like super cool for me
because I know them for a while now from the IndyCar side
and even walking around here,
like a lot of guys from when I was racing in Europe
and engineers, mechanics that I worked with or knew.
It's cool.
It's didn't realize how many people I knew
until I came back here and I was like, oh man, yeah,
know a few people from racing for a while.
It feels the third time lucky really, doesn't it?
Yeah, 100%.
And, you know, for me, as far as I'm concerned,
I'm fully focused on making this one,
the one that counts and works.
And so, yeah, that's the fully focused on trying to get here
and dealing with my F2 career at the moment
and trying to go through that side of things
and learning as much as I can.
So that's kind of where we're at.
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Colton, just a couple of questions about those two previous
opportunities that didn't happen.
First of all, I think it was Mario Andretti
who let the cat out of the bag when he said,
on the Sauber simulator, you'd been faster than Reichenan and Givenazzi.
Is that true?
Yes, it was true, but I think it's cool to be able to say you're faster than them in the simulator,
but it doesn't really mean much unless you can do it in real life.
I think it's a good thing for teams to see, and then they're like,
okay, maybe he's worth the investment of a test.
It definitely feels good when you get out of the sim,
but as far as does it equate to real life success, maybe, maybe not.
That's a cool thing to say.
He's hoping it was Barcelona as well, right?
That was at Hungary.
Oh, is it?
It was at Hungary.
We did a few tracks, I think.
No, we didn't on that one.
That was just Hungary, but no, that was cool.
And I enjoyed my time there.
It's a really cool factory that they have there,
and especially the wind tunnel setup that they have there.
Yeah, it was neat to see all that while that was going on.
This is the first time I met Valtteri,
because he was coming over from Mercedes to there,
so he was doing a seat fit.
And yeah, that's...
Fortunately, nothing came of it,
but yeah, it was a cool time to have a little bit of an insight into it.
And the Alfa Towery deal.
There was a period of time in the F1 paddock
where we were all led to believe that the deal was on.
Is that how it felt for you?
Yes and no.
I really liked the straightforwardness of dealing with Dr. Marco.
There's no gray areas with helmet.
Exactly, and sometimes it hurts.
As a driver, you don't want to hear some things,
but sometimes you need to hear them.
But the good part about all of that was he was...
He's very straightforward on the possibility of it.
You know, one day it was...
If I had to put a percentage, maybe it was 80%.
And then the next day is like,
oh, 40, wait, we clawed back, so maybe 60.
So there was a very real possibility.
You know, I had a contract from them,
just unable to sign because I didn't have the super license.
And you know, they were feeling really good at a point
that they thought, you know, it was going to happen.
But they weren't sure, and eventually I couldn't really wait too much more.
I had to sign a new deal in IndyCar.
And Michael and Dan were very gracious to have me back in IndyCar.
And so I signed with them, which ended up being the right thing
because I didn't get allowed.
I would have had no formal onesie and no IndyCar seat
and don't know what I would have done then.
But yeah, it was a very strange, strange time.
It was always day to day.
You know, it's so hard.
Even for me, I was like looking at the reports
and I was like, man, these people think it's going to happen.
Maybe it'll happen.
And then you call Dr. Marco and he's like,
oh, don't be so sure.
And maybe this stuff can happen.
But yeah, I was very gracious at the time of like everybody,
of being able to go into the Red Bull Sim,
you know, being able to talk to Dr. Marco
about the possibility of Formula One.
And a lot of people took a lot of time out of their days
to kind of point me in the right direction and help me out.
So very gracious for that.
Had you ever had the opportunity
to join the Red Bull Young Driver Program?
No, I didn't.
But I wasn't really over here that long.
You know, I did two seasons, British F4 and Euro Formula Open, Formula 3.
I don't think I was over here long enough.
I don't think I did probably enough to warrant it at that time.
But no, never had any interest at that point.
Colton, let's talk about that time.
You were 15 when you came over.
Yeah, I was young.
Which is really young, right?
Yeah.
Is that a difficult decision to make as a family
to go to the other side of the world?
Probably if you're my mom.
I think my dad was...
What did mom say?
I think she cried a little bit,
but she cried on the way to the airport
after they had dropped me off.
I was very fortunate that they let me do it.
Thing was, I was living with my mechanic.
So there really wasn't a lot who was like 20 or 21.
There wasn't really a lot of supervision.
And I had to really kind of grow up fast because of it,
which is, well, one, it was great.
I did 30 races and 25 test days in one year.
I was in the car two times a week, at least.
So learn to bucket load, right?
Yeah, it was amazing.
But it also matured me extremely fast out of the race car, right?
I had to learn how to cook, how to clean for myself,
how to take care of myself, be like,
hey, look, we have a test day here.
What time do I need to get there?
One's my train's leaving.
I was gonna say you didn't have a driving license, right?
So how did you travel around the UK?
With the team or on a train,
which thankfully you guys have a great system here in the UK
that you can kind of get around the country easily.
If you don't have a car,
it was fun to be on my own at that point.
I enjoyed it and I definitely missed my parents,
but it was fun.
Was your teammate Lando Norris helpful?
Yeah.
Did you hang out?
No, I don't think we ever hung out away from the track,
but we got on really well when we were at the track
and obviously with 52 days in the car,
you're seeing each other a lot
and that doesn't count prep days or simulator days and whatnot.
So we spent a lot of time together
and still whenever he comes to Vegas,
we'll play golf and whatnot and we'll see each other.
But he was great.
I think we got on really well.
We learned a lot from each other
and really pushed each other that year.
It was very enjoyable because it was all about driving that year.
I remember just before your McLaren test in 2022,
which we'll come on to in a minute,
I remember Lando saying,
Colton's quick, Colton's really quick,
very quick through fast corners as well.
It's a good thing.
It's a good thing I was making money doing oval racing.
Yeah, I don't know.
I guess maybe, you know, I think once...
It's very complimentious.
Once you reach the top,
everybody's talent's so close,
so it's hard to kind of stand out.
When you're learning at that age,
I think there's maybe a little bit more disparity between drivers
just because you have a natural talent
and then you have to refine everything
and that's where kind of your weaknesses are smaller
once you kind of get up and through the ranks and whatnot.
You learn more about yourself
and your driving style to make that style better.
But yeah, no, I definitely was not scared
of anything at that point.
How different is the racing culture in the UK compared to the US?
I mean, is the language the same?
Is oversteer still oversteer and understeer still understeer?
Yeah, I think it's pretty similar.
There's some small things that they would say are different
or we call parts something different,
but I think the biggest thing is the passion is there on both sides.
If you're in America, the fans are incredibly passionate.
If you're here, they're incredibly passionate.
And that's the most important thing when you're working out a team
and you want the guys to love what they do and enjoy it
because it's not an easy thing to be like,
hey, look, you're going to be gone for 24 weekends or whatever.
And then not only that, you're going to fly back on Sunday.
You're going to work from 7 a.m. to 6 p.m. on Monday.
And then you're going to fly again on Thursday
and go somewhere else.
So passion is kind of what drives everybody in the sport
and what gets everybody into it in the first place.
And that's really important.
Is the intensity different in Europe?
Because I've heard a lot of drivers talk about this
and the reason people come to Europe
is because the racing intensity is slightly different.
Or is that a myth?
I've always thought it doesn't matter where you go.
There's going to be somebody that's fast
and that's somebody that's going to be hard to beat.
Like if you were to go to the middle of Iowa,
the middle of nowhere in the cornfields,
and there's a go-kart track there,
there will be some kid that all he does
is drive around that go-kart track
and will give you a really hard time at beating him.
So I think that part, no,
I think you'll find quick people anywhere in the world
and specialists at any sort of racing or any sort of track.
I think there's an incredible ability to learn in Europe.
I think because the engineers in junior formula
are really way more focused on driver development
than I would say in the US.
And so I think that's maybe where the difference is
and where you would come over here for.
I think you drive a lot more over here for the most part.
And because of that, maybe a lot more people
come to Europe from racing
as far as like from North America, South America, Asia and whatnot.
So I think you're going to find fast people anywhere.
I think it's that ability to learn
is probably a little bit greater here
in the track time that you get.
It's probably a little bit greater here
than anywhere else in the world.
What about at home?
Because we've talked about your mom's reaction
to you coming to Europe.
But of course, your dad, you said,
he was racing in IMSA, one of your earliest memories.
But you know, dad was a great racing driver.
Brian Hertha, Indy, Indy Cole Champcar,
an IRL winner and things.
Was it inevitable that you were going to become a racing driver
given what he was doing?
Well, no, because I have two siblings
and they have no interest in being race car drivers.
Have they tried it?
Have they caught it?
Yeah, they've all tried it.
But for me, it was like I was always pushing for it.
So I think early on, I was maybe five years old
when I started asking, hey, can I get a go-kart and whatnot.
And it's probably came from Dario Franckini,
Dan Weldon and Tony Kanan, who were teammates
with him in IndyCar at the time.
We're saying, hey, you should get a go-kart.
I probably didn't know what a go-kart was.
And I was like, hey, can I get a go-kart?
And they were kind of saying that to wine your old man up.
Exactly, but he never pressured me into racing.
I think he was happy as long as I found something
that kind of satisfied me in life.
And so I think he likes it even more that it's racing
because he can relate to it well.
But it's never pressured.
So I started asking around five and a half years old
for a go-kart.
And so he said, okay, rented one, went out and did a track day.
And I was hooked immediately.
They got me a go-kart for my sixth birthday.
And that's when I started racing.
And I guess the rest is history, as they say.
But yeah, it was never anything else.
They had to, they made me do normal sports,
growing up baseball, football, soccer.
But I never had an interest in any of it.
When I was practicing for those, I was always thinking of,
I'd rather be at the go-kart track right now driving.
Right.
And dad was a great open-wheel racer.
Did he harbor Formula One ambitions?
Yeah, I think he thought about it.
He drove a Minardi TC to Donnington, I remember.
And Donnington, yeah.
Justin Wilson was also testing that day,
I think, in the Jag.
He was actually pretty close at one point on that deal
of getting like three races.
In the Minardi.
Yeah.
With Paul Stoddart, it was probably that era of Minardi,
was it?
I can't, yeah.
Beyond before me.
But much like me, he's a fan of motorsport as a whole.
And with that came for sure,
probably an ambition for Formula One at one point.
But then I think it got to the point where me and my sister
were born and it was probably going to be difficult to relocate
the whole family and whatnot and stay at an Indy car.
But yeah, it was, it's definitely where my love come from.
My first race was the Long Beach Grand Prix
and I was two weeks old.
So I was almost born at the racetrack.
And when you're brought up around it, I didn't know any better.
My mom told me one time I was on her shoulders at Chainlink Fence,
like watching the race cars go by.
There was a kid next to me.
I turned to him and I said, which one's your dad?
So it just didn't, like for me, it was, I didn't know any better.
It was just like, this is how life is.
And everybody's dad drives cars and that's so cool.
But it's just like anything in life.
I think you look up to your parents and I definitely look up to mine.
And you see what they do and you kind of gravitate towards it.
And so you would watch the F1 races with dad at some silly hour of the night?
Yeah, I think that kind of came later, a little bit older,
probably around nine or 10.
It was something that I always liked to do was watch racing with him,
because he's so busy on weekends usually.
So when we get a weekend off and we can watch racing, it's kind of rare.
So let's talk about F2 now.
Is it what you're expecting?
I didn't really have an expectation going in.
I didn't know what it was going to be like.
I didn't know exactly what the car, what the tire combination with the engine was going to be like
or was going to feel like.
So I didn't set any expectations as far as how this is going to feel
or how it's going to look mentally in my head.
But no, I think it's been enjoyable so far, very important for my learning.
And I think as far as learning tracks and more importantly,
how the tire kind of reacts is a big part.
That's one of the things Roman Grosjean said to me,
when he made the switch over to IndyCar, he said,
it's like an F2 car, just different tires.
Do you see that comparison between IndyCar and F2?
I do not.
What are the main differences then?
I think just like the feel of the car and how the power is put down
and how the gears shift and obviously the tire deck that you have over here is greater.
But the seating position is different, how the power is put down is different,
the sound is different.
So there's a lot of differences that don't really kind of key into
like the back of my brain is like, oh, this is an IndyCar.
But that's just me personally.
Just a quick question on the arrow screen that you have in IndyCar versus the halo
has the halo taken a bit of getting used to or?
No, not at all.
Yeah, well, because we have the arrow screen, but we still have the bar down the front.
So you still have the pillow.
So it's kind of like the halo, but just with the added protection.
Yes, it's definitely nice to have like wind back and be able to feel some wind.
Man, the early days of those, I'm going to speak in Fahrenheit,
because I don't know exactly what the equation would be.
But it was, we had a race at Indy, it was 150 degrees in the cockpit Fahrenheit.
I'm going to guess that's probably around 45, maybe more 50 Celsius.
But so it's incredibly hot.
I remember guys are getting out like some of you guys were really hurting.
But yeah, and then you come over here and you have the wind back.
It's so nice.
I completely forgot about that until we got back over here and I was like, yeah, feels good.
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What about the format?
Because that is different.
You're now in F2.
What is it?
It's the one practice session and straight into court.
That's a bit of a wake-up call, right?
Yeah, it is.
Especially if you throw the car in the wall in practice like in Melbourne.
Practice time is so, so important.
You know, when you have 40 minutes of not only do you have 40 minutes of it,
you have one set of tires.
You can't do that many laps in 40 minutes.
And then the added pressure if you only have one set.
So then you can do even less laps.
So it's definitely like you've got to get up to speed quick.
Need to learn fast.
And that's kind of like the name of the game in Formula 2 is if you can kind of get on the
weekend with your best foot forward, you're probably going to have a good weekend because
there's very little time to catch up and recover.
So that's kind of the learning process of what it is.
You're kind of the elder statesman as well.
I am, yeah.
I was thinking about this.
I was like, wow, it made me feel old now that I raced against Juan Pablo Montoya in Indycar.
And now I race against his kid in F2, even though I'm still, I'm only 26, right?
And it's like, still not old, but that was like, man, yeah.
When you're racing everybody in there, like 18 years old, it's like, yeah,
makes you feel a little bit older.
That gap between 18 and 26 is fascinating because you've been that person in Indycar,
the youngest ever race winner back in 2019 at Cota.
When you look back on that person now, how much have you changed as a driver?
What, what didn't you know back then?
Not as much as you'd think.
I would say probably by the time you're like 16, 17 in a race car, you're pretty close
to what your maximum mobility is going to be as far as like qualifying pace,
like one lap pace behind the wheel.
You're not going to get much faster.
I mean, you might, you know, might find a 10th and a half, two tenths here or there,
whatever, but it's not going to be, you're not going to be like almost second off.
Maybe when I get older, I'll be better.
It doesn't work like that.
As far as the raw speed, I don't think anything's really changed for me.
The alertness and the awareness going through a race, how I look at things is very different now.
So I guess the maturing of it is you have to make these mistakes and learn through them that way.
It's really hard to see like, oh, I should be doing this or whatever until it happens.
And you're like, okay, bank that, remember that for the future.
And that's kind of the bigger differences.
The maturity like inside the car and the race management grows a lot.
It's so interesting to hear you say this because I only yesterday was having a debate with someone
about what's been Lewis Hamilton's best season in Formula One.
And I maintain that I think his best season was 2007, his first alongside Alonso at them in McLaren.
Incredibly quick.
And he did nine consecutive podiums to start his Formula One career.
It went around the outside of Alonso at turn one in his first Grand Prix.
And the person I was talking to was saying, but how can that be?
Because you're surely going to get better with experience and stuff.
Yeah. I mean, you do, right?
There's probably points of that year that if you ask him, he'll probably be like,
well, yeah, if I was more mature, I'd probably win the championship
because I do this one or two things differently.
I would have pit it earlier in China is what he would say.
Well, yes.
But there's so many things that you kind of learn through the years.
And you're like, well, man, if I did this a little differently,
maybe my life would be a little different.
I would have won here.
But no, yeah, it's all about the maturity.
And he was, I think he was what, 21 when he came into Formula One?
Tiny bit older than that.
Yeah, but yeah, younger than you.
Oh, yeah.
Two years, I think he was 24.
You know, I think nowadays he's probably on the older side of Formula One guys coming in.
So he had probably a pretty good deal of maturity mentally outside the race car,
but it doesn't always translate to inside the race car.
You still need to learn things, but yeah, incredibly quick.
Is your mind as malleable as it was when you were 18?
So like, you know, you've learned how to drive an IndyCar brilliantly.
Yeah, yeah.
You're having to do new things now.
Are you finding that process of learning to do things differently easy?
Some yes and some no, right?
Like there's still some things that you really have to do a few times and to get it.
But also, yeah, there are some things where it's like,
Hey, look, I've done this before and I've gone through this process.
And so that maybe picks up a little bit easier.
But as part of racing is you're always going to get better, right?
Like it doesn't matter if you're 63 years old and you're still driving.
Maybe you don't have the speed that you once had,
but mentally you're still going to pick up on things.
You're still going to learn things and how to better yourself, right?
Guys like Lewis or Max, they're still going to get better and they're still going to learn more.
Even if the speed kind of drops off at some point, you still learn.
Do you see these two added F2 races in Miami and Montreal as an advantage for you?
Because actually the tracks are going to be new to everybody and not only you,
which was going to be the case elsewhere.
It definitely helps for sure.
Yeah, you go to a place like Melbourne where I think a lot of guys have been in Formula 3 and whatnot.
It kind of closes down on the track learning or they'd been there previously in F2, I don't know.
But yeah, like you said, Miami, Montreal is going to be new for everybody.
I'm pretty sure that nobody's ever been around there in anything other than a simulator.
And for me, I'm just looking forward to it because two races in North America,
which is going to be awesome.
You know, in Canada, that's going to be a cool place.
I've always heard Montreal is a sweet city and the track looks amazing.
So I'm looking forward to that one.
And then Miami is, it's great.
You know, I think none of us were expecting to have a home race for F2 in the US this year.
And yeah, I feel very fortunate for it.
What about Valtteri and Checo?
Have they been helpful to you, whether it's from a Formula 1 point of view?
Or I mean, Valtteri didn't do GP2, but Checo did.
Has he been able to give you any advice on whether it's F2 or F1?
Whenever we've had discussions, it hasn't kind of gone towards that.
It's been more catered toward Formula 1 and more so me steering the ship of like,
hey, how's this feel and whatnot?
Like I'm usually asking them questions.
But and when they do ask me questions, usually it's about IndyCar.
They have interest and I think they find that part interesting.
But no, we don't really talk about Formula 2 or haven't.
I think when they did it, well, when Checo did it, it was very different,
probably on Bridgestone at that point, maybe.
I think they probably were.
Yes, Checo's 29-10, I think he was doing it, wasn't he?
So in a very different chassis, for sure.
So what does success look like for you this year in F2?
I think progression.
That's the biggest thing to look at where I started in Melbourne.
It's great to finish seventh on Sunday, but progression and finishing inside the points
as much as possible, eventually you want to get to the point where you win
and you're qualifying on polls.
Like that's every driver's goal is kind of like,
what are you doing this if it's not to win?
So that's obviously the main goal.
But progression in learning would be kind of a simpler goal.
And having been in the thick of it, do you think winning is achievable?
100%.
Yeah, I don't think I'd be here if I didn't think I could win or compete.
That's a huge part of I think any driver's DNA is they are an arrogant breed.
We always think that we're probably the best and we always think that...
Colton, I was coming from an angle of it's so different for you.
Oh, 100%.
Well, it's very different, but that's what's so important about this year.
So you get to learn what to do, what not to do before, hopefully,
ultimately you end up in Formula One.
And have you given yourself a time scale with the whole F1 thing?
No, I think for me it's day-to-day focus, right?
Like right now, the only thing I care about in life is getting to Miami
in the prep work before we get there.
Once that's over, all I'm going to focus on is getting to Montreal
and the Sim days and the prep work to get there and have success.
And so it's all about seeing a week or two ahead of myself.
And has that always been your attitude to racing?
Yeah, I think so.
I think it helps me compartmentalize things and helps me focus on one thing
and not be worried about, oh, we got this test day or this track.
So it helps me stay focused on what's most important,
which for me at this moment is get my seat fit done.
So Cadillac has my full attention right now and getting comfortable
and learning about the Formula One car with some of the engineers here.
And then tomorrow it'll be Miami Prep, Sim, and fully focused with high-tech.
High-tech are just down the road.
So you're able to dovetail the Cadillac in the high-tech aspects of your life.
Yeah, I think that was a big, big kind of reason why it looks so good to go with high-tech.
Obviously, the results speak for itself and the team is incredible.
Great engineering and great infrastructure.
And I really like Holly.
We were talking about that before.
Oh, he asked the team boss.
The team boss, yeah.
And so, yeah, it's just made it a little bit better when they're like,
hey, look, we're right here with the Cadillac team.
It's easy to get back and forth.
You're a man who doesn't like to sit in the comfy seat.
That's what I'm learning.
Always pushing yourself, right?
I guess, but it's important.
I think as a race car driver or I mean,
I don't need to lecture people on life or give some philosophical thing.
But for me, it's important to always be progressing in my sport and what I do
and what I want to achieve in life.
It's you need to.
You're also doing the IMSA Enduro races as well for Cadillac, aren't you?
Just tell us a little bit about that experience.
How different is the car to anything you've driven before?
Yeah, that thing's very different, but it's so sick.
Especially when you do the bump start and massive displacement VA kicks in
and you can feel it coming down pit lane.
You know that it's the Caddy coming and the sound is amazing.
You don't get many naturally aspirated engines anymore in the world.
And so it's pretty cool when you get to drive one.
That was the first time that I can say,
I can remember that I drove a naturally aspirated engine.
So it shows you kind of how rare it is nowadays and with turbocharged engines
and now with hybrid engines.
So it's super cool.
Such a good team in car.
Is it close to F1 performance?
Because I want to talk to you now about the McLaren test you did at Port Amal as well.
But are there parallels in how you drive that with how you drive an F1 car?
Yeah.
And I would say the most parallels are how advanced they are, right?
Like what you can do from the driver's seat as far as changes inside the cockpit,
I would say is almost identical to what I found in Formula One.
Okay, well, can we talk?
So it's July 2022.
You're heading off to Port Amal for a two day test with McLaren.
What were your expectations and how did they compare to the reality?
I think just grateful for the opportunity.
You know, I didn't know what to expect.
I know people say like, oh man, the braking is going to be so crazy
and the cornering, acceleration.
The thing that got me was the acceleration, but just how linear it is.
It's like it just keeps going, right?
When you drive a car for the most part, you get to a part of like VMAX where it starts tipping off
and then like this is as fast as the car is going to go.
But that thing like it just never reached it, just kept going, just kept going.
And it felt like the same amount of torque in second gear as fifth gear.
And so that was the most impressive part to me.
I think the braking, even though it was later than the Indy car,
it felt comparable in my mind and obviously the cornering is high,
but that wasn't anything that was like, it's impressive.
But it wasn't like, whoa, the acceleration, that was what like was weird to me.
Because I kept like pulling my head back like, I mean, it's got to stop eventually.
And it's like, nope, just keeps going.
Also, Port Amau is a great racetrack as well.
Awesome. The first time I've been there.
Right. And it's kind of, it really plays to the strengths of an F1 car as well.
I think there's some quick corners and.
Yeah, late apexes, double apex corners, off camber.
It's got a little bit of everything, great elevation change, high speed, low speed.
It's a great track to test at because it gives you a little bit of a feel
for every corner that you might experience in a Formula 1 track.
You mentioned the braking and the accelerating,
but what was your abiding memory of that car?
I mean, Mark Temple, your engineer told me at the time that you were really impressive from the get go.
But I suppose what was the hardest thing for you?
I think just getting comfortable, right?
When you only have a two day test, the first day is really just spent getting comfortable
and learning like, learning by, by over driving a little bit, right?
So you might go into a corner and you might roll, you know, 10k extra speed into it and be like,
whoa, whoa, whoa, big shuffle, you know, end up a few car links wide at the apex and then come back.
And so the second day, you need to refine all that, right?
You had a night's sleep, you come back, you know what, what to do now a little bit more.
And you need to be able to refine that. That's the most important thing.
And so the first day was all kind of sporadic driving a little bit,
trying to learn as quick as possible by overstepping the line.
And then day two is all about performing, right?
And maximum performance and really trying to nail every time I got in the car and just corner by corner.
Okay, this is where I'm going to break this time.
Oh, maybe a little bit early. Go a few meters later.
But no, it was very enjoyable.
And it's cool to be able to drive a car that's won a race and form one too.
True. It's the 2021 McLaren, the Daniel Ricciardo one at Monzerie.
Do you enjoy all the data pouring through the data? Did you learn a lot from it?
Yeah, it's a really cool thing. That for me, like there's nothing better in life than finding lap time.
There's nothing more satisfying in life than finding lap time,
because it takes a lot of time and effort to do it, right?
Like the engineers will tell you, that's their job. And countless nights for them,
up super late trying to find lap time. And then when you can find it,
you know, go a tenth quicker, two tenths quicker than what you thought was possible,
it feels pretty satisfying.
Colton, it's been so great to chat and get to know you. You're obsessed with racing.
That's what I've learned. Do you have time for hobbies?
You mentioned that you'll play golf with Lando. Is that a big thing for you?
Do you watch the Masters last week?
Of course. Yeah. Yeah, I enjoy golf, cycling a bit.
Are you still drumming?
I haven't drummed in probably a year.
Oh, hang on. What happens to the band then?
It's been gone for a while now, just because I think everyone went to work.
What do you call yourselves? The Zips, is that right?
Zips, yeah. Everyone's got a job.
Yeah, exactly. But that was enjoyable. But no, I haven't drummed in a while.
Where did the drumming come from?
Parents wanted all of us to learn instruments growing up.
I started on piano and hated it, and so then I started playing drums and enjoyed it a bit more.
Future Charlie Watts.
I don't know about that. I need a little bit more practice.
You need to get the band back together.
That's what you...
We'll see. For the right price, Stefano. We'll come playing at one race.
Come on, Miami. You're going to be there, right?
Sunday night in Miami.
Colton, thank you very much for your time. It's been great to chat.
And good luck with everything. I think a lot of people admire the big step that you've taken.
Thank you. Thanks, everybody.
I loved this conversation partly because Colton's so engaging,
but also because I learned so much about the man.
Colton's a passionate racer. As he said, he'll watch any motorsport on TV.
And he wants to get into F1 having earned his colours.
The racing in F2 is hard, and there will be no free passes for Colton this year,
but there's already an inner belief in him that he can succeed.
And if he wins in F2, then he'll have taken a massive step closer to his dream of Formula One.
Colton, many thanks for your time.
And I look forward to seeing you in Miami next weekend.
And you can follow Colton's season on the F2 website, formula2.com.
Plus, there are race highlights on YouTube,
and you can watch full races on F1 TV.
And Colton's Cadillac team principal, Graham Loudon, is on the latest episode of F1 Explains,
answering your questions. And on F1 Nation, another IndyCar race winner, James Hinchcliffe,
Jolie and Palmer and I have been building the perfect F1 driver. So why not check that out as
well? Thank you very much for listening, and I will of course be back next week with another
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About this episode
Colton Herta talks through his unusual path from IndyCar success to climbing the ladder via F2 toward a Formula One seat with Cadillac. The conversation covers his F1 seat fit and driving-position quirks, what FP1 practice will mean for his learning, and why Barcelona feels familiar. He reflects on past near-misses (Sauber, then AlphaTauri) and the super-license drama, plus how he’s adapting to F2’s limited practice time and tire-driven learning. Along the way, he shares his motorsport upbringing, his McLaren test impressions, and what “success” looks like this year: progression, points, and eventually wins.
Formula 1 has always been a dream for Colton Herta. Walking away from IndyCar to race in Formula 2 is a gamble. His reward, should he prove himself, could be an F1 drive with Cadillac. Colton has come close to F1 before. This time he’s determined to make it. Speaking on the day he had a seat-fit for Cadillac’s F1 car, Colton Herta tells Tom Clarkson about growing up at racetracks with his father, IndyCar legend Bryan Herta, his love of motorsport and F1 deals that never happened with Sauber and Red Bull’s junior team.
Colton also remembers leaving the US as a teenager to race in Europe, where he was teammates with a young Lando Norris in junior categories, and he looks forward to making his F1 practice session debut for Cadillac later this season.