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Daytona WRL Victory & IndyCar Charter Debate with Sally Mott and Zach Veach

Daytona WRL Victory & IndyCar Charter Debate with Sally Mott and Zach Veach

The Pits Are Open Podcast Jun 19, 2026 49 min
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About this episode

The Pits Are Open Podcast blends pit-stop basics with a tribute to IndyCar owner Dennis Reimball, then pivots to Sally Mott’s Daytona WRL win and her path from go-karts through MX-5 Cup toward NASCAR. The conversation broadens into IndyCar’s future—2027/2028 schedule chatter, electrification/hybrid rule debate, and the charter system’s impact on competition. Zach Veach joins to discuss his racing-to-aviation crossover and hopes for a return to IndyCar, especially the Indianapolis 500.

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IndyCar

"someone who's the most underrated, one of the most underrated drivers in IndyCar, Ed Jones"

IndyCar is a major American racing league for open-wheel race cars. It’s the series that runs big events like the Indianapolis 500.

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Ed Jones

"someone who's the most underrated, one of the most underrated drivers in IndyCar, Ed Jones, and couldn't come to terms with that."

Ed Jones is a driver who races in IndyCar. The speaker is saying he doesn’t get enough credit compared to other drivers.

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Spirit of Speedway

"we were launching something called Spirit of Speedway, which was a celebration and kind of a Green Bay Packer spin-off of a fan-owned entry to celebrate Speedway Indiana."

“Spirit of Speedway” sounds like a special event or theme connected to Speedway Indiana. They used it to create a themed car display.

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Speedway Indiana

"to celebrate Speedway Indiana. And Dennis allowed us to take one of his IndyCars"

Speedway Indiana is the big racing venue in Indiana where IndyCar events happen. It’s closely associated with the Indianapolis 500.

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Davey Hamilton

"a car that had run in the 2011 500. Davey Hamilton drove it, allowed us to borrow that car"

Davey Hamilton is a race driver. Here, he’s credited with driving the specific IndyCar that competed in the 2011 Indy 500.

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livery

"borrow that car, wrap it in the Spirit of Speedway livery. And we used that as a show car for a little bit."

A livery is the car’s paint and sticker design—basically how it looks. Teams can change it for special events or sponsorships.

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Indiana State Fair

"And we used that as a show car for a little bit. We debuted it at the Indiana State Fair."

The Indiana State Fair is a big public event in Indiana. In this story, they debuted their special race car there so fans could see it.

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Dennis

"Dennis been around, started the team in 2020, full-time in 2020 for IndyCar."

“Dennis” is the person the speaker is talking about who started the team and has been involved with it. The transcript doesn’t say his full name in this excerpt.

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Robbie Buell

"Had some great drivers. Robbie Buell, Justin Wilson, Hunter Ray"

Robbie Buell is a racing driver. The host is listing drivers who have been part of their team.

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Hunter Ray

"Justin Wilson, Hunter Ray, J.R. Hildebrand, Townsend Bell"

Hunter Ray is a racing driver. The host is listing drivers who have been on their team.

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Justin Wilson

"Robbie Buell, Justin Wilson, Hunter Ray, J.R. Hildebrand, Townsend Bell"

Justin Wilson is a race driver. In this part of the conversation, he’s mentioned as one of the team’s past drivers.

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J.R. Hildebrand

"Hunter Ray, J.R. Hildebrand, Townsend Bell, Connor Daly"

J.R. Hildebrand is a race driver. He’s mentioned as one of the drivers who have been part of the team.

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Townsend Bell

"J.R. Hildebrand, Townsend Bell, Connor Daly, Connor Daly recently"

Townsend Bell is a racing driver. The host is listing drivers who have been on their team.

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Connor Daly

"Townsend Bell, Connor Daly, Connor Daly recently,"

Connor Daly is a race driver. The speaker is saying he’s been involved with the team, including recently.

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hybrid

"Apparently we had one and once we decided to go hybrid they walked away."

A hybrid race car uses both a regular engine and an electric system. The electric part helps with things like acceleration and efficiency, and it can change how teams build their cars.

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Toyota

"The rumor has been multiple years that it was Toyota. Toyota wants a bigger presence in American, North American racing for sure."

Toyota is the car company being mentioned as possibly getting more involved in U.S. racing. That kind of involvement usually means they’d support teams and invest in the technology needed to compete.

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charters

"Look at LinkedIn this week for an article released about charters. Do charters help or suppress motorsports? ... I think charters basically make it a closed shop."

A “charter” is basically a long-term deal that guarantees a team a place to race. The argument here is whether that makes IndyCar more stable—or whether it blocks new teams from joining.

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independent teams

"You know, it was a place where it welcomed independent teams, [429.0s] it welcomed innovation. [431.0s] We had bumping, all that's going away. [434.2s] All that's gonna be ended."

Independent teams are smaller IndyCar teams that aren’t part of the biggest factory-style setups. The concern is that charters could make it harder for these teams to get into races.

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bumping

"[429.0s] it welcomed innovation. [431.0s] We had bumping, all that's going away. [434.2s] All that's gonna be ended."

“Bumping” in IndyCar refers to a qualifying procedure where a faster car can replace (or “bump”) a slower car out of the field. It’s a way for teams to earn a spot late in the session, and the speaker suggests charters would eliminate that open competition.

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Car

MX5 Cup

"Yeah, so I started my racing career in go-karting and then most known for my MX5 Cup career."

MX-5 Cup is a racing series where everyone drives very similar Mazda MX-5 cars. That means the racing is more about the driver and how well the car is set up.

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Mazda Mx5

"on Prime Video. It's about the women in the Mazda MX5 Cup, so I got lucky enough to be featured in that..."

The Miata is a small two-seat car made by Mazda that’s designed for enjoyable driving. There’s also a racing series where many people drive the same model, which is why it shows up in motorsport stories. The podcast is referencing that racing world and a feature connected to it.

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WRL

"I just got back from Daytona last weekend. We got a win in WRL with a victory racing, which is called a driver lineup."

WRL here is the name of the racing series she was competing in. She’s saying she won that series at Daytona.

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driver lineup

"We got a win in WRL with a victory racing, which is called a driver lineup."

A driver lineup is just the group of drivers who share the car during a race. Teams choose who drives based on who’s best for the different parts of the event.

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Toyota Supra

"Super cool, and the GT4 Supra."

A GT4 Supra is a Toyota GR Supra race car built to GT4 rules. It’s meant for competitive racing without the higher cost and complexity of the top GT classes.

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NASCAR ladder

"but my main goal is to kind of climb up that NASCAR ladder and make my way up to the Cup series eventually"

The NASCAR ladder is the step-by-step path drivers take to reach the top NASCAR series. You usually start in smaller series and work your way up by performing well.

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Cup series

"and make my way up to the Cup series eventually in the upcoming years."

The Cup Series is NASCAR’s main top-level series. Reaching it is the biggest step up in NASCAR.

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four wheel drive

"And we came to his shop and he had this [807.8s] four wheel drive Acura, this yellow looking car. [812.3s] It was kind of like, it was a champ car."

Four-wheel drive means the car can send power to all four wheels. That helps it stick to the ground better, especially when you’re accelerating hard.

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VIR

"In that plane ride to VIR, he was like, Sally, [843.4s] like, what are your goals? [844.5s] Where are you trying to go? [845.4s] And really got deep with me."

VIR is a famous race track in Virginia. It’s where a lot of racing events happen, so it’s a common stop for drivers building their careers.

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Petit Le Mans

"In 2023, the Petit Le Mans race at Rhode Atlanta. [856.0s] And he's like, I have a team I can connect you with. [858.4s] You know, you only got to come up with $30,000."

Petit Le Mans is a long-distance sports car race at Road Atlanta. Multiple categories of race cars run together, so it’s not just one single type of car competing.

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Rhode Atlanta

"In 2023, the Petit Le Mans race at Rhode Atlanta. [856.0s] And he's like, I have a team I can connect you with. [858.4s] You know, you only got to come up with $30,000."

They likely mean Road Atlanta, a race track in Georgia. It’s a well-known track where sports car races happen.

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Miata Spec

"Was it Mazda, Miata Spec, was it still in carts?"

In racing, “spec” means the cars have to follow rules that keep them fairly equal. “Miata Spec” means it’s a Miata-based series where the car differences are limited so the driver matters most.

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business, the behind the scenes stuff

"…Not so much the driving aspect, I'm talking about what you have to do to drive aspect, the business, the behind the scenes stuff."

They’re talking about how racing isn’t only about driving. There’s also a lot of work off the track—planning, coordination, and team stuff—that you have to handle as you move up.

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cart to car transition

"…just focusing on driving and how to learn, like learning like a cart to car transition."

Going from karts to real race cars is a big change. The cars feel heavier and handle differently, so you have to relearn how to brake, turn, and race.

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Indy 500

"when I was four years old, [1927.3s] I told my parents I wanted to be in the Indy 500 [1929.4s] and they kind of laughed because, you know, you're four."

The Indy 500 is one of the biggest races in American open-wheel racing. Drivers race for 500 miles at the Indianapolis track, and teams have to plan pit stops and car setup carefully.

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go-karts

"And I didn't get my start so pretty late, though, [1941.2s] So I started racing go-karts when I was 12. [1944.1s] I was lucky to be picked up by Andretti Autosport at 15"

Go-karts are small race cars you drive on a track. A lot of future race drivers start in them because they’re great for learning how to drive fast and safely.

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Andretti Autosport

"So I started racing go-karts when I was 12. [1944.1s] I was lucky to be picked up by Andretti Autosport at 15"

Andretti Autosport is a professional IndyCar racing team. They hire drivers and build/prepare race cars to compete in IndyCar races.

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Ford Taurus

".... I mean, Aaron Brockett, my pastor led me to Dan Taurus at the time. They hadn't been involved with any m..."

The Ford Taurus is a regular passenger car (a sedan) made by Ford. It’s the kind of vehicle people use for everyday driving like commuting and errands. In the podcast, it’s mentioned as part of a personal reference, not as a detailed car review.

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open wheel

"it was everything I loved about racing without the stress of open road by IndyCar level of racing."

“Open wheel” means the race car’s wheels are not covered by body panels—they’re out in the open. IndyCar is the classic example, and it feels different from sports car racing.

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Indianapolis 500

"my first and biggest love will always be the Indianapolis 500. So we've been busy."

The Indianapolis 500 is a legendary American race, held every year. It’s a huge deal in open-wheel racing, and the speaker really wants to get back to it.

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Porsche Cayman

"I've been driving for CSM in IMSA, racing their GT4 Porsche Cayman, all the last year."

The Porsche Cayman is a Porsche sports car with the engine placed toward the middle of the car. Here, it’s being used in a racing series (GT4), meaning it’s modified and raced under specific rules.

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GT4

"I've been driving for CSM in IMSA, racing their GT4 Porsche Cayman, all the last year."

GT4 is a class of race cars based on production sports cars, built to a cost-controlled rule set compared with higher GT classes. It’s designed to be more accessible for teams and drivers, while still delivering real race-car performance.

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IMSA

"I've been driving for CSM in IMSA, racing their GT4 Porsche Cayman, all the last year."

IMSA is a big U.S. sports-car racing series. In this part, it’s where the speaker races the Porsche Cayman in GT4.

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CSM

"I've been driving for CSM in IMSA, racing their GT4 Porsche Cayman, all the last year."

CSM is the racing team the driver works with. They’re the ones running the car program in IMSA.

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Mid-Ohio

"which is kind of growing in a way that July 3rd, we'll be making an announcement at Mid-Ohio"

Mid-Ohio is a race track in Ohio that hosts motorsport events. The speaker says they’ll make an announcement there.

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driver analyst

"this year, I was there as the driver analyst for IndyCar Radio. And just being a part of that event again, you know, it changed something in my soul that I'm"

A “driver analyst” is someone on TV/radio who explains what the drivers are doing while the race is happening. They help you understand why certain moves work or don’t.

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leading some laps

"We're leading some laps at the end. And for my first time really around there, I thought we had a shot at winning a thing."

“Leading some laps” means the car was in front of the field for portions of the race. In oval racing, leading can come from qualifying position, pit strategy, or on-track passing, and it’s often a sign you had a competitive setup.

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Santino Ferrucci

"We had a great sponsor, Mitsubishi, and we brought that to Santino Ferrucci, investor Sullivan, who you drove for in the sports car side."

Santino Ferrucci is a professional race car driver. Here, he’s mentioned in connection with a sponsor and a team/driver relationship.

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Mitsubishi

"We had a great sponsor, Mitsubishi, and we brought that to Santino Ferrucci, investor Sullivan, who you drove for in the sports car side."

Mitsubishi is a car company. In racing, it can sponsor a driver or team, helping support the effort and getting its name seen during the event.

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Sullivan

"Mitsubishi, and we brought that to Santino Ferrucci, investor Sullivan, who you drove for in the sports car side."

“Sullivan” sounds like a person who invested or supported the racing program. The host is saying you drove for them in sports cars.

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No fans

"What a weird year though that was, huh? No fans. It was just kind of so spooky."

“No fans” means the race happened without spectators in the stands. That can make the whole event feel different for drivers and teams.

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gasoline alley

"You know what it's like. You walk through gasoline alley, you see the grandstands come alive."

“Gasoline Alley” is the busy area at a race where teams work on the cars. It’s where you can see mechanics and crews getting everything ready.

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downtown Indianapolis

"And, you know, there's so much that I love about that race. You know, the parade the day before going through downtown Indianapolis."

They’re talking about the Indianapolis 500’s parade in the city. It’s part of what makes the event feel bigger than just racing on the track.

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McLaren

"It was offered to me. I ended up hosting a suite in Tower Terrace from McLaren."

McLaren is a famous race team (especially in Formula 1). If they’re hosting a suite, it means the speaker had access through that team’s people and sponsors.

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Tower Terrace

"I ended up hosting a suite in Tower Terrace from McLaren. Oh, perfect."

Tower Terrace is a premium viewing and suite area at the Indianapolis track. It’s where VIP guests can watch the race from a more exclusive spot.

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Detroit

"it's the averaging finishing position for the Indy 500 winner at the following race, because it's a week later at Detroit, is always like mid-pack."

They’re talking about the IndyCar race in Detroit that happens shortly after the Indy 500. The point is that the Indy 500 winner often doesn’t do as well in the very next race.

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double header

"It's better than it was because we used to do that double header at Detroit."

A “double header” means two races close together, usually on the same weekend. They’re saying it used to be tougher because you had to race again right after the previous race.

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Belle Isle

"you'd wake up Sunday morning after doing a fully looped car race the day before at a place as rough as Belle Isle, man, you felt like you did five races the day before"

Belle Isle is a race track area in Detroit that IndyCar has raced on. They’re saying it’s rough and bumpy, so racing there back-to-back is really draining.

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fully looped car race

"you'd wake up Sunday morning after doing a fully looped car race the day before"

They mean the previous race was a full, complete race—not cut short. The idea is that doing that and then racing again the next day was exhausting.

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