An off-road course is a set path with rough terrain and obstacles meant to challenge the car. They’re saying that part of the route is especially difficult.
“Bomb holes” here means crater-like bumps and ruts on the track. They’re the kind of obstacle that can really shake up the car and test how well it grips the ground.
The Freelander 2 is a Land Rover SUV that can handle dirt roads and off-road trails better than most regular SUVs. They’re saying it’s a smart, more affordable choice for off-road events and camping.
Term
off-road and go camping
They’re talking about using the vehicle for off-roading and then camping at the event. It’s about having the right kind of SUV for the whole weekend, not just the trail.
The Jeep Wrangler is a popular off-road SUV known for doing well on trails. The hosts mention it as another vehicle that can handle the kind of course they’re talking about.
The Toyota Hilux is a pickup truck made for hauling and tough driving. People like it because it’s built to last and it’s commonly used for work. The podcast mentions it because the speaker saw one at an event or gathering.
The Land Rover Discovery is an SUV that can do more than just normal road driving—it’s meant for rougher terrain too. They’re using it as an example of a Land Rover that can handle the off-road course they’re describing.
Traction control is an electronic system that detects wheel slip and reduces engine power and/or applies brakes to the slipping wheel(s). In off-road conditions, it helps maintain forward motion when tires lose grip, though it can’t always prevent getting stuck.
Suspension is what lets the wheels move over bumps and ruts. In this test, they’re pointing out that the suspension keeps moving so the tires can stay in contact with the ground.
Recovery points are strong spots on a 4x4 where you can attach a tow rope or winch cable. They’re used when you need to pull the vehicle out of trouble off-road.
A turbocharger is a device that uses the car’s exhaust to spin a fan that pushes extra air into the engine. That extra air makes more power, but it also creates heat—so the car uses an intercooler to cool that air.
An intercooler is a radiator-like cooler for the air that the turbo squeezes into the engine. If it cracks or splits, the turbo air can’t be cooled properly, and the engine can run poorly or be at risk.
Car
Spartan 4x4
The Spartan 4x4 is discussed as a fully electric off-road vehicle with four-wheel drive (“4x4”). The host emphasizes it’s unusual and rare, and they want to see one in person—suggesting it’s a niche EV built for rugged use rather than mainstream commuting.
The Ineos Grenadier is a tough off-road truck made to handle rough trails. It’s built with a traditional, rugged mindset—more “go anywhere” than “city comfort.”
Car
Land Rover 110
The Land Rover 110 is a long-wheelbase Land Rover built for tough, practical use. The “110” is basically a model name tied to its size, not an engine spec.
Car
Land Rover 130
The Land Rover 130 is a bigger, longer version of the classic Land Rover. The “130” is part of the model naming that points to its length and capacity.
This is a short version of the Land Rover Defender. It’s built to handle rough use, but in this story it’s having a major problem that’s bad enough to call for help.
The head gasket is a critical seal inside the engine. If it goes bad, the engine can start mixing fluids or overheating, and the repair is usually expensive and labor-intensive.
“Land Rover ownership” is used here as a shorthand for the real-world experience of running these vehicles—often involving frequent tinkering, repairs, and parts sourcing. The speaker frames head-gasket/turbo trouble as part of the brand’s reputation for hands-on ownership.
That phrase means they’re towing a very heavy trailer. Hauling something that heavy puts extra demands on the vehicle, especially stopping and keeping the engine cool.
Term
green-aining tours
This sounds like a type of guided tour they run. The exact wording is a bit unclear in the transcript, but it’s likely about taking people on off-road or countryside routes in a planned, organized way.
“Green lanes” are legal off-road tracks in the UK, usually dirt or rough lanes. People use them to drive 4x4s in a more adventurous way than on regular roads.
A guided green lane tour is a planned trip where someone takes passengers along legal off-road tracks. Here, they changed how they operated because new local rules stopped them from running it like a taxi.
The Surrey Hills is a countryside region in England. The host is saying it’s actually a great place for legal off-road “green lane” driving, even though people often think otherwise.
Normandy is a region in France that was a major World War II battleground. The host mentions it because their tours include D-Day and related battlefield history.
Place
the Somme
The Somme is a part of France known for major World War I battles. The host is saying their tours cover those historic battlefield areas.
“Byways” are specific kinds of roads or tracks you can drive on, often less maintained than main roads. The point here is that you need the right info so you don’t end up on the wrong or closed route.
TrailWise 2 is an app that helps you plan off-road routes. The idea is that it shows you where you’re allowed to drive and helps you avoid outdated or wrong trail information.
An Ordnance Survey map is a very detailed UK map. Off-road drivers use it to double-check where routes and paths really go, especially if you’re relying on an app.
The Suzuki Jimny is a small SUV built for off-road driving. It’s popular because it’s compact and can still handle dirt tracks and uneven ground. The podcast mentions it as a common car people see often.
“Box standard” means completely stock, unmodified factory configuration. Here, it’s used to emphasize that a Discovery doesn’t need aftermarket lift or off-road mods to be capable.
All-terrain tires are tires made to handle a mix of normal roads and rough off-road surfaces. Here, they’re the only change mentioned—everything else on the Range Rover was stock.
The Range Rover is a luxury SUV that’s also meant to go off-road. The speaker is pointing out that it can still do impressive off-road things, even when it’s not set up with dedicated off-road tires.
Road tyres are the normal tires meant for regular streets. The speaker is saying the car can still do a lot off-road even when it doesn’t have special off-road tires.
Term
off-target
They’re joking that a lot of these SUVs never really go off-road. Instead, people use them mainly for normal driving, like a luxury car.
The prop shaft is a driveshaft that sends power from the drivetrain to the rest of the 4x4 system. If something’s off with it, the car may not move the way you expect on uneven terrain.
Front wheel drive means the front wheels do most of the work to move the car. They’re wondering whether the stuck moment was due to the car only using the front wheels.
Low range is a special gear setting for off-roading. It makes the vehicle move slowly but with more pulling power, which helps when the ground is slippery or uneven.
High range is the normal gearing mode in a 4x4’s transfer case, used for everyday driving and most light off-road conditions. Compared with low range, it keeps engine revs lower and is better for faster travel where you don’t need maximum torque multiplication.
The Land Rover Discovery 4 is a big, comfortable SUV that’s also meant for rough roads. Here they’re talking about a specific 2015 version with a diesel V6, and whether it’s a good buy.
SDV6 is the engine type: a V6 diesel that’s boosted with a supercharger. The point is usually more pulling power at low speeds, which helps for towing and rough-road driving.
Retrofitted just means the car was modified after it was built to add something it didn’t originally have. In this case, it’s about adding air conditioning later.
Recirculating air conditioning means the system keeps reusing the air already inside the car. That can cool the cabin faster and feel more effective than constantly bringing in outside air.
Term
Puma dash
A “Puma dash” means the dashboard design from the Defender’s Puma-era. They’re saying their Defender has that style of dashboard, which matters because it affects what other parts (like air conditioning) need to fit.
An air conditioning kit is a package of parts to install or upgrade A/C in a car. They’re talking about how much it costs for a Defender 130 and how it can be cheaper if you’re only buying the A/C unit versus the whole conversion package.
Term
bolt screw-in conversion kits
This phrase means a retrofit kit that’s meant to fit with straightforward mounting—basically bolting and screwing parts in. They’re saying full kits like that cost more than just buying the A/C unit alone.
Concept
driving in the heat
When it’s really hot outside, your car’s air conditioning has to work harder to cool the cabin. They’re saying if the vents are open, you can end up feeling more hot air coming in.
A V8 is an engine with eight cylinders arranged in a V shape. More cylinders usually means more power potential, but it can also make the car run hotter—so cooling matters.
The radiator helps keep the engine from overheating by cooling the fluid that circulates through the engine. If you put a bigger engine (like a V8) in and keep the original radiator, it may not be enough for long or hot trips.
Concept
boil it up
“Boil it up” means the engine is getting too hot. When coolant overheats, it can start boiling, which can damage the engine if you keep driving.
The Land Rover Defender is a classic, body-on-frame off-road SUV built around rugged durability and serious capability. In enthusiast circles it’s especially valued for its simple mechanicals and the way it can be used as a daily driver or a trail vehicle.
The Land Rover Freelander is a compact Land Rover SUV that’s often remembered as an “entry-level” Land Rover. It’s discussed here as a budget buy because it can be found cheaply, yet still offers genuine off-road ability for the money.
“High mileage” means the vehicle has been driven a lot, which increases wear on consumable parts and can raise the odds of needing repairs. In used-car buying, it’s often a trade-off: lower purchase price versus higher maintenance risk.
An engine is the main mechanical unit that makes the car move. They’re saying they don’t want the hassle and cost of having to replace an engine in a Discovery 4.
This is about how you manually release the emergency version of the handbrake. The hosts are saying there’s a particular way it’s designed on the Discovery 4 that can cause problems.
An automatic handbrake is the parking brake that’s controlled electronically instead of just by pulling a normal lever. The hosts are saying that if it malfunctions, you may need to use the emergency/manual release.
The emergency release is the manual way to get the handbrake off if the normal method doesn’t work. They’re describing it as pulling a cord, and they’re saying it can break.
Your parking brake uses small friction pads (shoes) to grip the brake surface and keep the car from rolling. If they’re worn or not adjusted right, the parking brake can feel weak or fail.
The park brake is the system that keeps the car from rolling when you’re parked. If it’s not adjusted or the parts are worn, it may not hold well and can make odd sounds.
Here, “module” means a boxed unit that controls or moves the parking-brake mechanism. If it jams, the parking brake can stop working and you may need to open it up and free it.
They’re talking about a manual emergency method—like a cord you pull—to get the car moving if the usual parking-brake release gets stuck. It’s a fallback when the system doesn’t work normally.
Concept
Ingenium thing
“Ingenium” is the name for a set of modern engines used by Land Rover. The speaker is comparing it to another situation and saying it doesn’t have the specific “thing” they’re talking about.
Concept
nobody reads the manual
They’re saying people often don’t read the car’s instructions. That can make it harder to use the car’s features correctly, even if the car is otherwise great.
The Alpine A110 is a small sports car made for driving enjoyment. It’s designed to feel quick and nimble through corners rather than being a big, heavy cruiser. The podcast mentions it because the speaker owned one and then moved on to another car.
A scrappage scheme is a program that encourages people to turn in an older car for money (or a discount) toward a newer one. The host mentions it because it affected what they were driving day to day.
Stability control is a system that helps the car stay pointed the way you’re steering. If the car starts to slide or spin, it can brake individual wheels and reduce power to regain control.
Concept
Lantra course
A “Lantra course” here refers to a structured training program where drivers learn practical off-road driving techniques. The key idea is building understanding of what the vehicle is doing (traction, wheel behavior, and control inputs) rather than just “sending it.”
“Diffs” are the parts inside the drivetrain that let the wheels on the same axle spin at different speeds. That helps the car move smoothly when the terrain is uneven or when you’re turning.
“Mechanical noises” are the sounds the car makes from its moving parts while you’re driving off-road. Some sounds are normal when the drivetrain is working hard, and the trick is knowing what’s expected.
Topic
Tea on the Tailgate
“Tea on the Tailgate” is a relaxed meet-up for Land Rover owners and fans. You show up, grab a cup of tea, and hang out and talk cars for a few hours.
“Trialing” is an off-road activity where drivers try to get through difficult obstacles carefully. It’s usually about control and traction, not racing fast.
Overlanding is long-distance, self-reliant travel using a vehicle equipped for remote roads and rough conditions. It typically emphasizes route planning, durability, and carrying gear for camping or extended trips rather than short recreational off-roading.
bmh4by4.com is a website that sells parts for Land Rover and Range Rover vehicles. In this segment, they’re pitching it as an easier way to find the right parts.
BMC 2.2 means a 2.2-liter engine from a British automaker called BMC. They’re saying that’s what was in their Series 1, and it didn’t impress for long.
A DPF is a filter that catches soot from a diesel engine. They’re implying the car was producing so much smoke/soot that it was defeating the filter’s purpose.
An EGR valve is an emissions-control part that helps reduce pollution by sending some exhaust gas back into the engine. They’re saying their car was so smoky that it basically negated what those emissions systems are supposed to do.
Concept
Maintenance is key
They’re saying that regular upkeep matters—if you don’t keep up with maintenance, problems get worse. It’s the takeaway after talking about a vehicle that wasn’t running right and was producing lots of smoke.
The gearbox is the part of the car that helps the engine deliver power to the wheels. If it’s “playing up,” it usually means shifting or power delivery isn’t working right.
Concept
ex-embusy car
An “ex-embusy car” refers to a vehicle that previously served as an embassy car. These cars are often maintained to official standards and may have been used for official transport, which can affect ownership history and expectations.
Side steps are the bars along the side of the car that help you step up. They can hide parts of the lower body, so not having them makes it easier to spot rust or damage.
Mud flaps are small panels behind the tires that help stop mud and water from being thrown up. If a car doesn’t have them, it can look more “bare” or basic.
The “sills” are the metal panels along the bottom sides of the car, near where you’d step in. Rust there is a big deal because it can weaken the body and be expensive to fix.
Rear arches are the curved panels around the rear wheel openings. They’re prone to rust because they get hit with water and grit, so “good” arches usually mean the car has been better protected.
“100,000 miles” is a rough benchmark for how much a car has been driven. Here, the speaker is saying the car isn’t too worn out yet and may become more desirable.
LIVE
We're on. Here we are. Well, hello. Here we are on the biggest podcast stage we've ever
been on. The, uh, the Sam and Sophie looks positively
dwarfed on this enormous stage. And if we wouldn't be lying, if we said this was a little
bit nerve wracking, but here we are. Good job. There's not thousands of people
watching us. Yeah, that would be, that would be really
off putting. Thankfully, we've got away with it, I think.
Have we? We've got through the hour. We've got an hour of talk all about Land Rover.
There's all that goodness. Absolutely. So if you're, uh, well, we hope
you're familiar with Land Rover Monthly and LRM as a brand because you're here. Um, thank
you ever so much for coming. We hope you're having an amazing weekend and, um, we are.
Well, I'm Martin Dominic. I'm the editor of Land Rover Monthly magazine and.
Well, I'm Steve Miller, um, been at Land Rover Monthly for, well, 15 plus years now.
So it feels like an absolute lifetime and enjoyed every single moment.
Absolutely. And, uh, if you're not familiar with Land Rover Monthly magazine,
head over to the LRM Gazebo, sign yourself up for a subscription.
It's the world's best selling Land Rover magazine. Um, and we're very proud of it.
No, we are. And we're very, very proud of this show.
And I'm just so glad when we, when we paid the invoice on the son, it decided to show up.
It was a good move. Absolutely. Yeah, we did pre-book that long in advance and thankfully
it did show up. So, uh, yeah, all good fun. Uh, there's a lot going on, isn't there?
The off road course is in full swing.
No, it is. And it's not as dusty as some of the off road courses we've been in
on the last couple of weeks, but really, really good fun. So if you do want to get
yourself on there, we do recommend booking in as soon as possible really.
Their, uh, spaces are limited because of the size.
Absolutely. Yes. Saturday slots are filling up fast.
So, uh, there's a bit more availability tomorrow, but yeah, be sure to go and, uh,
check it out, get your Land Rover around, stretch its legs.
Yeah. There's one particular, in fact, the man himself, Eddie, uh, you've got to go
through Eddie's bomb holes. So that's the trickiest part of the course.
He's laughing because it's named after his good self.
Uh, I was, uh, I'll be honest, I was all loaded up.
My series three was fully packed, ready to come here, uh, on Thursday,
which is when I, I turned up and, uh, I looked at it.
I looked at my Freelander two, which I just finished fixing.
And I thought, I'm going to go in the Freelander two.
And, and there's reasons for that.
Yes. Is that because it has air conditioning?
That's one of the reasons I'm not going to lie.
Um, I think, I mean, there's a good number of them here.
We've got muddy mods just behind the, uh, the stage here.
I think they're an incredible Land Rover and I wanted to bring it.
And I haven't actually put it on display today.
I will do tomorrow. Um, because it, I wanted to get out there
that you don't have to spend 10, 20, 30,000 pounds on the defender
to have an amazing time, come out to one of these events,
go off-road and go camping, do all those things that we love.
There are entry level options and a Freelander two is one of the best.
Yeah. I've just thought, I've just seen one go through, um, the off-road course.
A lot of people actually come up to us and say, I've got a Freelander
so I don't want to take it on the off-road course.
But let me tell you, they are very, very capable cars.
The off-road course is designed for those and obviously extreme vehicles
alike. So, um, yeah, they are a brilliant car.
And yeah, we've got a buying guide coming out actually on YouTube.
We have. Yes. A series of buying guides, in fact, which we're very excited about.
So if you haven't already subscribed to the LRM YouTube channel,
be sure to, uh, to subscribe and keep an eye out.
Like I say, over the next few months, we're going to be releasing
hopefully some very, very good comprehensive buying guides.
So if you're on the fence, I've spoken to a few people who've said,
I don't actually own a Land Rover, but I wanted to come out and see what it's all about.
And I can guarantee if you don't own a Land Rover yet, you will leave here wanting one.
Yeah, definitely. I mean, I'm just looking out here at the audience
and some people choose not to wear Land Rover merchandise.
In fact, my own nephew himself is watching there and he's proudly, uh,
showcasing his Jeep T-shirt.
So Jeep Wranglers is obviously a good, capable car.
It is. You're getting silence from me, mate.
But yeah, it was funny yesterday.
I was marshalling, helping to marshal the off-road course.
We did have a few around yesterday and, uh, there was a Hilux and a Patrol.
I don't know the model of Patrol sort of, not the square one, the one after that.
And, uh, obviously, the round one.
Well, not, you know what I'm saying. Rounder one.
We set out the elephants footsteps and every defender and every discovery
and even every Freelander that's gone through there has done,
maintained good progress.
They've been dropping each wheel in, the suspension's been moving,
traction control's been working.
This Patrol, which looked ready to take on anything,
was stuck there for about five minutes and I just thought,
well, you know, the proof's in the pudding.
No, it is. We all know that Land Rovers are the best four by four by far.
Great advert for Land Rover. Yes, I did.
Very good. Absolutely.
I have a question for you.
Okay.
Have you ever done a podcast in front of a relative?
I couldn't do it.
An important relative?
No.
Yeah, I am.
I am actually standing here now and I don't know where she's gone.
She's probably out there somewhere.
My mother-in-law is here.
Can we do mother-in-law jokes?
Yeah, well, I don't have a bad mother-in-law, so I can't do one.
Yeah, yeah.
See, it's all about the brownie points, you see.
So, uh, this may as well just say it right here, right now.
So, um, I think Michael's out there actually.
So, um, in fact, he's not out there.
He's in here still.
So he's going to come round.
We thought we'd kick this off.
Michael's going to go round and ask some questions
that you can fire at us to answer.
So we often get very listeners' questions in.
Yeah, absolutely.
A big, big part of the podcast.
It's become very popular.
Yes, but we're quite aware that some people out here
may never have ever heard of us.
They don't even know the LRN podcast exists.
So you might have a question you want to ask us.
No holds barred.
Let's just ask away.
Absolutely.
Land Rover related, ideally.
But yeah, we'll take anything.
But for now, I think we'll welcome on our first guest, shall we?
This is a man who actually was instrumental
in helping us set up the off-road course
because he provided us with some much needed
off-road driver training.
But that's just a small part of what he gets up to.
He's here, um, on his stand,
but we've dragged him away to come and have a talk with us.
Gareth, would you like to come and join us up on the stage?
And we'll see, see what's going.
We might actually take a seat on the pieces of salmon sofa.
Honoured.
Gareth, how are you?
You are indeed honoured.
And I notice, Gareth, just before you sit down,
that you're in blue shorts and not salmon colour shorts.
I did, yesterday, when I was setting up,
I had a pair of shorts on that were exactly that colour.
And you decided you didn't want to be camouflage.
I can't blend in.
I need to stand out.
You've just been like a floating torso on the salmon sofa.
Gosh, there is actually people on my watch.
You thought about your family, my wife's there.
Look, there we go.
So only Martin has never done a podcast in front of...
I do not envy you at all.
No stress.
What is she here?
No, she's heavily, heavily pregnant.
So she is...
Perfect for this hot sunny day.
Absolutely not, no.
So no, she has decided to stay at home and I don't blame her.
But again, thank you ever so much for coming along.
Gareth, we obviously, Steve and I,
have been doing this quite a long while.
We've driven off road quite extensively over our time,
you know, behind the wheel of Land Rovers.
But what you do day to day is basically take everyone
who's been doing that and get rid of all their bad habits
and retrain them how to drive off road properly.
But as we've alluded to,
that's only a small part of what you guys do.
So tell us a little bit about your company
and what you get up to.
So exactly what you just said, basically.
But no, no, it's fine.
So we do four by four training for professionals,
enthusiasts, and we do green lane tours all in the UK
and in France as well.
So most of our work is professionals.
So anybody who drives off road for work,
pick up trucks, Land Rovers, anything,
they have to get a qualification
to meet health and safety and all that kind of stuff.
And so we do that during the week.
But the weekends and some weekdays,
we train owners of four by fours, mainly Land Rovers.
Not all, but mainly.
I know it's a Land Rover show, but we do do other training.
We had to do four by fours as well.
I was going to say your grenadier appeared
in a bit of our marketing stuff on social media
and there were some comments made.
Yeah, I think it was imposter.
Yeah, imposter.
Have you brought that along this weekend?
Of course I have, just to annoy you.
Oh, fantastic.
It's quite interesting because the clerk of the course,
Neil Waterson, editor of Land Rover Life,
he found a bit of the grenadier
when we had the day with the visitors.
I have myself down on the way round, didn't I?
It was a cosmetic extra, Martin.
It was a cosmetic.
I've got these little funky orange strips
that go over my recovery points,
blending with the corporate colors.
And I lost one on the course.
And I thought, I'm never going to find that again.
And then Ratty from London Mug Club decided to see it
and then Spinny's won 10 Defender Wheels
and bury it in the mud.
Anyway, Neil very kindly found it.
And then this morning, popped over to the stand,
I was chatting to a customer and he put it on for me.
He fitted it.
He's a very, very, very nice.
I don't know who is Neil.
Very nice.
I can only assume he felt sorry for the fact
that a bit had fallen off.
I mean, I would like to point out
that my Freelander too made it round several times yesterday
and didn't shed anything.
But have you got orange covers on your recovery point?
No, I don't need recovery points.
The only thing your Freelander is going to shred
is it some turbo.
Right.
Most podcasts, I normally get a dig in, don't I, about you?
It's been a little while
since we've had a Freelander turbo update.
And I actually did think it had gone a couple of weeks ago.
I thought that was the end of the car.
And it turned out that the intercooler had split
where I couldn't see it was behind the bumper.
So I very nearly put that up for sale,
spares, or repairs when it really just
needed the intercooler to change you.
But it's still going.
It's like our generator estate couldn't find it up
and it was just a little rubber pipe.
Oh, the smallest things make the biggest difference.
Don't know, that's it.
It gets even worse on the stand though, just for you,
just to dig it in a little bit worse.
Not only we've got the grenadier,
we have got a lightweight and a disco one as well.
OK.
Lightweight is beautiful.
We've also got a fully electric Spartan 4x4.
Do you know what?
I haven't actually seen one of them in person before,
so I must come and have a look.
I want to have a look at it.
It's very unusual and rare.
I think there's only about three in the country.
How old are they?
Is it brand new?
Brand new.
Right, OK.
Built to order.
Great.
Really, really cool.
We can see people over in the shade
and I don't blame them at all.
But I was wondering, hello, let's wave.
Let's all wave.
Can everyone wave?
Is everyone paying attention?
Because I want to do a show of hands.
Is your ice cream melting?
It's about four people, Martin.
I don't see that many hands.
They're waving, it's fine.
Generally, if you were going to buy brand new 4x4
and you had to choose between a Grenadier,
an Ineos Grenadier, or a new Defender,
I want to know who would buy which.
So if you are team Grenadier, put your hand up.
Oh, my wife put her hand up.
If you would go new Defender, put your hand up.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, sorry.
Well, I am a Land Rover show, so that's fair enough.
You have got Land Rovers as well.
We have got 110, 130,
two Disco twos and a Disco one.
And I bought my RC Land Rover as well.
I suppose you can be excused that.
Yeah, that's fine.
We'll let you off.
But it's really interesting when you say how many.
I know you were using yours for work purposes,
but many, many enthusiasts have multiple Land Rovers.
We've constantly said the perfect number is three,
which to a normal man on the street,
all women on the street would just say,
that's ridiculous.
No one needs three of anything.
No, but you need one to break down.
One to work.
And then one for your daughter's wedding
when she's getting married.
So you can dress it up and, you know.
You need a nice daily driver, a practical car.
You need a Green Laner slash Camper slash off-roader.
And you need a project.
Because you've got all the bases covered then.
Yeah, that's true.
I hadn't thought of a project.
I don't do the oily stuff.
I really?
No.
Oh, fair enough.
No, no, no.
I've got a very nice man that does that.
No.
And he's very, very much better than me.
And I just don't do that.
Yeah, neither do I.
I have to wait for my turn.
I was about to say that.
Yeah, that's fine.
Yeah, we've just seen Jamie along the front, actually.
Defender Restore's come and seen us already.
He's been cracking on.
It's kind of been a bit of a race, really,
between your Project 90 and Jamie's Project 90.
It's been kind of an ongoing thing for a couple of years now.
It shows you how quickly progress is moving.
Yeah.
Progress is moving on, but when you've got a target
to get a Land Rover finished for a show,
and I know it's on social media,
similar people have been doing things
to get their Land Rovers here,
i.e. repairing them just so they can get here.
But when you're rebuilding something,
sometimes you can rush, can't you?
Unnecessarily, because you've got a target,
that you've put on yourself.
And it puts you under so much pressure
that it takes the enjoyment away.
Yeah, and something better will come out
at a time that you waited,
because you'll see that shiny thing
46 years ago, and now something will be better.
And do it slowly.
Yeah, but the other thing is,
had I not had a target, which I have failed to meet,
I wouldn't have been as far ahead as I am now.
So that's, I think that's, you know, a blessing.
Martin, if you're looking for a project,
because I know you've got loads of spare time this weekend.
Loads.
Loads.
One of our customers has just arrived in his 90,
and he's on the phone to the AA.
Oh, right.
It's not the first I've heard, actually.
No, no, no.
Our friend Tom is in fact fixing his 110
in the car park, apparently.
We need a head gasket and a turbo.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
Well, there is auto jumble.
I'm not sure we can find a head gasket.
You might find a turbo.
A turbo, yeah.
Yeah.
Not ideal.
But we sold her on.
It's what makes up the rich tapestry
of Land Rover ownership, really, isn't it?
Yeah.
And, you know, driving here yesterday in that heat,
and, you know, on the main road, the busy road,
some people are towing, some people got roof tents.
These cars are working hard, you know,
and they go around the off-road course.
They're working hard.
So they're cooling systems are under a lot of pressure.
I was talking to a customer this morning,
and we were saying four by four as Land Rover is everything.
A great thing I always love
is you can go and put your Land Rover over there,
get it covered in mud, whatever, take it off-road,
do lots, and then you're on the M25 going home.
Yeah.
And it's...
I still find that fascinating.
Yeah.
And, you know, when I'll go around your off-road course later on,
and I think this is just fabulous,
so you can do such a thing,
and then tow a three-and-a-half-ton trailer.
Just brilliant.
Garry.
Sorry.
I'm talking about driving on the road and then driving off tarmac.
Another big part of what you do is you do green-aining tours.
Yes.
Tell us a little bit about that side of things.
So, nearly 10 years ago, when we started the company,
I retired from like a proper job,
and then we did passenger tours.
So I got my 110 Defender with a roof off six seats in the back,
and we took people out on basically joy rides around the green lanes.
Really good fun.
And then the council changed the laws on basically we were taxi.
Yeah, I know for once something I learned from you
is that I was approaching things a little bit too slowly.
And you end up getting stuck
because you didn't give it some momentum, I think.
But having that trust in the car and then accepting it,
we're going to be some mechanical noises.
Yeah, that you've probably never heard before.
It's not going to break.
It's designed to do it, crack on.
It's a bit of confidence and knowing that we didn't push you
to the limits far from it.
But I mean, I'm not going to lie.
When you three of you turned up, I just thought,
well, this is going to be me teaching you psychics.
But I think actually you did learn something new.
And you know, teaching you guys the right Landro magazines,
I genuinely thought, well, they're going to know everything.
How wrong you were.
Well, they were all very good.
I mean, Neil was at top star.
Neil's a man.
Very, very good.
The reason you got him to coordinate the off-road call
is he's the man for the job.
Gareth.
But he's still got his car full of stuff.
Oh, death trap.
Yeah.
Don't tell him.
Tell him off.
Anyone that, here's a top tip.
Anyone that does Landro course, right,
go with a car with nothing in it apart from yourself.
No loose items because you will get marked down.
And it's all about being competitive.
So do it.
It's not about being competitive.
It wasn't.
You two scored the same, didn't you?
Yeah, we did.
Neil beat us, though.
Neil didn't get any points.
No, I know.
Oh, no, sorry.
He did.
He did.
He got three points for his death trap loads.
Because of the loose loads.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Fair enough.
Well, Gareth, thank you ever so much for joining us.
Most welcome.
If people can come and have a chat with you
and find out what's going on
and take the mick out of your grenadier,
where can you find it?
I did.
There are two grenadiers here.
Not just mine.
Well, you can deflect all you want, mate.
Absolutely.
Stand A13.
Sorry for before tours and training.
We've got some free giveaways.
We've got some stickers.
We've got some disco biscuits.
Disco biscuits.
And they're not special biscuits.
No, they're not from Amsterdam.
They're normal biscuits.
So A3 biscuit.
Show it like a discovery.
So absolutely.
And some stickers and pens.
Come and say hello.
And we've got a competition running.
So if you give us your details,
you might get a free days training with us
or a free green lane tour with us.
Perfect.
Well, Gareth, thank you ever so much for joining us.
We'll catch up with you in a bit.
Yeah, lovely.
Gareth Jax, everyone.
Thank you very much.
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He normally flies under the radar, you see.
He's not one for putting his face about,
but this guy has completely changed the way
Land Rover gatherings, I guess, have been.
Tim, how are you, sir?
Hi, all right.
Thanks for recovering from last night.
Did you have everyone?
It was quite a heavy one.
I know someone in your camp had everyone.
Yes, he did better than me, though, to be fair.
Oh, really?
Yeah, he was up at the...
Yeah, he carries it well.
He does, that's true.
It does look like he can shift some beer
that old John Masters.
Good old boy.
Tim, tell us a little bit about who you are
and what you have done.
So, I'm Tim.
I created Tea on the Tailgate about 18 months ago now,
down in Dorset.
It was supposed to be a little meetup for local people
because there was a guy already organizing coffee meets.
They sort of stopped.
And we got to know a lot of people through them
and everyone was nagging for someone else
to carry on the baton.
So I set up Tea on the Tailgate on Instagram
and before I knew it, it just exploded.
People wanted to do meets all over the country
and I couldn't get all over the country.
So I'm very lucky that people have come forward
and offered to run them locally for me.
And I just coordinate it, really.
The hosts I've got locally just do an amazing job.
I was good to say you can't go online on Facebook, Instagram,
any of the socials now,
without seeing someone promoting a Tea on the Tailgate event.
And I think it probably has introduced a load of people
who otherwise wouldn't have come to Land Rover events,
if you like, into the community, really.
And it's helped build that massively.
I can think of a few around my area
that are always well attended.
Everyone's got good words to say about Tea on the Tailgate stuff.
Do you say so?
Someone had kind of started the coffee meet idea,
but did you ever expect it to get this big,
I suppose, as the question?
No, definitely not.
I was expecting sort of 20 people a meet
to meet up maybe three times a year.
And the demand is just amazing.
Most of our areas hold three or four meets a year,
but I'm constantly getting emailed by people wanting more.
They want monthly meets,
but I'm a huge supporter of local clubs
and they do a fantastic job.
And I don't want to detract from anything they're doing.
And I think three or four times a year is a good balance.
Yeah, fair enough.
And I've no doubt there's people out there
wandering around this event.
Well, in fact, I'm sure the majority of them
will have either been to a Tea on the Tailgate event
and certainly will have heard about them,
because for those not familiar,
they are basically free events that you turn up to.
You can have a cup of tea, just mill around,
chat to other people who are into Land Rovers,
they generally go on for a few hours, don't they?
And then off you go again.
Yeah, totally.
We try to keep the venues free.
Sometimes we have to limit numbers
because a venue can only handle so many,
and we've kind of become victims of our own success, really.
A couple of meets have had over 100 cars turn up,
and it just becomes unmanageable.
So in those sort of instances,
we have to limit tickets,
but there are always free tickets to obtain.
Right, got you.
And yeah, generally speaking,
as you say, the ones that are,
you're more general meet-ups that don't have,
you know, got plenty of space,
you could just turn up in your Land Rover
and have a chat good time.
Yeah, exactly.
We've had some sort of pub car park meets
where car parks are a bit smaller.
We've had some, like, national trust car park meets
that are a bit larger,
and they can accommodate any number of vehicles, really.
So what's the club scene like around your area,
your door set, aren't you?
Yeah, that's right.
I'm part of the Dorset Land Rover Club.
I'm here with them this weekend.
We've got a very good scene locally,
very active with green-leaning, trialing,
doing monthly social and things like that.
But I think clubs are generally struggling
for survival at the moment.
People are struggling for money,
and joining a club isn't necessarily
something they can afford.
And the tea on the table gives people an option,
but also it helps clubs get the word out.
A lot of clubs attend the meets,
and there's a lot of new people to Land Rovers
that get to hear about what their local clubs can offer.
Absolutely, absolutely right.
And it's that, as we've just said about,
with Gareth talking about,
the best entry point into Land Rover ownership.
That's a great entry point then going off,
and maybe you want to get into motorsport,
maybe you want to do off-roading, overlanding,
come to events like this,
which are completely different kettle of fish.
It's all about getting people hooked, isn't it?
And then once you've got them,
they can then choose their path with what they want to do.
Yeah, totally.
I think there's about 10 hosts here this weekend,
and I've met so many people just this weekend
that have been to events, have met people,
and are actually here at the event with people they've met,
which is really encouraging.
Absolutely, that's brilliant.
We've always said, isn't it, about the community of it all,
and you've got that perfect sort of foundation, haven't you,
for people just to meet and chat,
and share stories, share fixes as well.
You know, if your Land Rover's broken,
you're about to find somebody that can help you out,
and, you know, recommend a fix, or...
Yeah, totally.
We tried not to make our meets commercial,
but there's always someone, a meet,
that knows someone, or is able to help give advice.
Well, that's what it's all about,
isn't it, is helping other people out,
and you see it all the time around these events.
Anywhere there's a high concentration of Land Rovers,
there's bound to be small mishaps,
and lapses in forward progress,
and it's very rare that you just see a Land Rover
broken down at the side of the road without anyone else stopping,
and having a chat,
and seeing if they can help,
and that's really part of it, isn't it?
Off-road course as well.
We've actually had loads and loads of requests for people saying,
I've come to the show, I don't have a Land Rover,
or I don't want to drive my Land Rover off-road.
Are you doing passenger rides?
And the official answer is no,
but I guarantee, if you walked along the line of Land Rovers
that are waiting to have their turn,
and you knocked to the window and said,
ah, would you mind if I jumped in with you?
99% of people would be like, sure, get in.
The Land Rover community is just the best.
It's always when you're somewhere like this,
you feel it, don't you?
And last night when Luke Holmes was here,
singing, and everyone was having a great time,
we're all here for the same thing.
It's brilliant, just love it.
Absolutely, and if you've come for the day this year,
you must camp next year,
because last night was absolutely awesome, wasn't it?
Yeah, it was. More of that to come tonight, actually.
So we've got Ultra 90s versus 2000s,
which is always sort of our era, I suppose.
All your favorite club, dance, garage music.
It's going to be absolutely fantastic.
Yeah, and not forgetting some other bands leading up to it.
So the whole afternoon of entertainment today and tomorrow.
So, you know, when we do this camping,
so you can camp for three nights here, can't you?
Which is another reason just to book some time off work
and just go Friday through to Monday.
Absolutely, I mean, I would have loved to have said
that this whole stage setup is for us to sit here
for an hour and chat at lunchtime,
but actually, if you were here last night,
you'd have seen Luke Coombs UK performing
and what a show he put on.
No, really, really good. Can't wait for next year.
So obviously, you know, this is year one for this show,
and you know, it's a building block.
For next year, we'll always come back bigger and better.
Well, that's the plan anyway.
Definitely, definitely. Tim, what's your weekend looking like?
Well, I'm going to walk around the show in a minute.
We haven't had a chance yet, but it's been amazing.
Last night, the music was really good
and just the party vibes, the whole layout of the site just really works.
Oh, well, thank you.
It's something we put an awful lot of thought into
and obviously a lot of effort into as well.
So if you're out there, thank you ever so much for coming along
to the first ever Big Land Rover Fest.
I hope you're having an amazing weekend.
And Tim, thank you for joining us.
If people have got questions about Tea on the Tailgate,
if they don't see you here,
how can they get in touch and find out where their local meet is?
So we have a website, teaonthetailgate.co.uk.
All the meets are listed on there.
We have local groups on Instagram
and we also have a Facebook group.
Just search Tea on the Tailgate.
Great stuff. Plenty of information out there.
If you want to get involved, get along to a meet at the weekend.
And yeah, have a good old Tim Wag with some fellow Land Rover owners
and drink some coffee and eat some cake.
Love to see it. Tim, thank you ever so much.
We'll catch up with you later.
Thank you.
Cheers.
Cheers.
Tim, everyone.
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Go on, Matt. Come and have a chat with us.
Was this a planned chat?
His face says it wasn't.
I don't know. We're fast and loose here, aren't we?
We do what's necessary. It's good fun.
Everything's a bit spare of the moment anyway, isn't it?
So why change the habit of a lifetime?
Well, yeah. And then Michael's sure to be going around in a minute,
getting some questions in for us.
So Land Rover related questions, happy to answer.
If the mics reach that, I think they will.
Matt might be quite good to chime in with some sage words of wisdom.
Sit in the middle, Matt.
Oh, yeah, he's got the salmon shorts on.
You've picked up where Gareth failed us, mate.
As long as they're not Gareth shorts, it doesn't matter.
That'd be awkward, wouldn't it?
Matt, how you doing?
Not too bad, mate, yourself.
Hot. It is warm.
It is rather... My call box was given up.
Oh, no. That's no good.
I'm having to drink the beer quickly to a verbal wastage.
Yeah, you're making the best of a mad situation.
Fair play.
So how's the camping for you then, Matt?
Yeah, Matt. How's your camping?
I think I have the best camping spot on this entire showground.
Couple of miles up the road in a four-star hotel.
It's not even that. It's literally the other side of the motorway.
Yeah, so don't take all this look of Matt the hardy camper.
He might look like he's been camping for three nights,
but he's been in the hotel.
I had a lovely swim this morning.
Oh, man. You've bought your L322 here, haven't you?
I have. It seemed a lot more sensible than the Defender that doesn't run.
I guess so, yeah. I mean, you came to our LRM Live event last year.
It wasn't this year, was it? It was last year.
And I threw it together for that, and that has come back to bite me,
but tiny a little bit.
Oh, yeah, because you were towing the competition...
Yeah, the Series 1 won the taxi engine in it.
Was that a BMC engine in that?
Yeah, BMC 2.2 in that. It was...
Sounded good, you know. I did.
It did for 10 minutes.
You drove it anywhere. It didn't sound very good, anyway.
Like most landfifters.
It was a smoky little thing, I seem to remember.
It was single-handedly undoing the work of every EGR valve and DPF in the country.
Oh, Greta hated it, but that just made it so much more special.
And surely Hadoo wins that, though, doesn't he?
Hadoo's arrived on three cylinders, I think. He is out there somewhere.
I thought he arrived at LRM Live on three as well.
No, it did arrive on four cylinders.
I think the problem he had there has only got worse since, but...
Yeah, smoky Landravers. No smoke or no poke.
Maintenance is key, people.
What's that?
Well, as an L322 owner, you should be all too familiar with it.
Prevented it. The problem is, when you're a mechanic,
your own car just goes out the window.
Yeah, definitely.
You never, ever, ever buy a car off a mechanic.
Because you know just how bad you can let things get before it kills you.
Absolutely. And the last thing you want to do after
slaving away, sweating, fixing stuff a week is lie underneath your own car.
Oh, it just doesn't happen.
Maybe you say that though, but you quite like it, don't you?
You find it therapy.
I do now, because I don't have to do it all week.
Oh, OK, yeah, because you're not...
Remember that I have that job, like looking after the magazine now.
I don't have to... I don't spanner on cars five days a week anymore.
Although sometimes I wish I did, because I do really enjoy it.
It is great. But yeah, tell us a little bit about the Range Rover.
How did that come about?
So that was a customer of mine.
He lived in London, then moved back up to the Peak District,
brought that with him. I looked after it for a few years.
He got tired of putting petrol in it, and the gearbox was playing up.
So I made him an offer and decided to keep it.
Mainly because it's an ex-embusy car.
So it's a very weird spec.
It's a supercharged, but they've ticked no boxes at all on the exterior options.
It's got no mud flaps. It's got no side steps.
It's as plain as you could make a supercharged.
Then I think they tick to every option on the interior,
and you just don't see them like that.
It's quite unassuming, isn't it?
You have to look twice to notice even that it's supercharged.
It's very, like you say, it's not accessorised at all from the outside,
but a lovely thing to ride in.
Well, that's what made me buy it.
It's the fact that when he originally offered it to me,
I thought, oh, I'll buy that. I'll trash it and abuse it for a year or two.
And then when it dies, whatever, it was a cheap Range Rover.
Then when I had a really good nose around here, I was like,
actually, this is the Sills, because it hasn't had side steps.
Never had the holes drilled in underneath, so the Sills are good.
The rear arches on it are one of the best I've ever seen for that age of range.
There's a tiny little blister on one.
But other than that, it's as nice as one as I've seen,
and it's only just gone over 100,000 miles.
It's hopefully going to start climbing in value.
I think, yeah, good sort of unmessed with ones, Will.
I think, as you've said, about the rust around the rear arches and the Sills,
that is end of the road for quite a lot of them,
because it's a hefty welding bill.
And if the car's already high mileage, people are like, nah, I've had my use now.
I'll sell that to a breaker or scrap it or whatever.
But I think it's important that we start looking after these more modern classics.
The Discovery 3s are suffering from rust as well.
Four's not so much, but Range Rover P38s now, a few of them I've looked at.
The owners have gone, oh, I was told these didn't rust.
And then you stick your head underneath it, and the floor's hanging out of it.
So it's important to keep on top of it.
But I think they all rust in the end.
But obviously, they're still very old cars now, aren't they?
P38s, you were talking about potentially you'd buy one.
But I really like them.
Oh, you want to buy one?
Oh, no.
I just so happen to have.
Thanks, Steve.
You can always rely on Matt to seize every opportunity to sell you something.
Well, the driveway of dereliction needs a bit of clearing out,
because I love an auction, and it's a bit full.
And I have got this lovely P38.
It's royal blue, cream-lever interior.
Four litre or 46
Four litre.
OK.
Suspension works.
For now.
I put a new compressor on it when I pulled it out of the barn where it had laid for a while.
And all back to life, it does want a bit of welding, but I'll sort that before it.
It'll come with a test.
Will it?
12 months, I'm hoping.
It'll come with a 12-months test.
I've got a guy.
Very tempting.
Oh, you've got a guy.
Right.
OK.
Say no more.
You probably should have kept that to yourself.
But yeah.
Good stuff.
Now, I do like the P38s and the L322.
That served you quite well, hasn't it?
I mean, you've sent me pictures of the boot absolutely chock full of tools.
Oh, it is now.
Oh, is it?
Because I think if you travel with them, you don't need them.
Absolutely.
If I don't take tools on the way down here, so it's got an issue.
It is a supercharged issue with the auxiliary water pumps pack up.
And it's something to do.
Apparently, a lot of them are wired backwards from the factory.
I can believe it.
And I need to do it.
I've got, there's a topic's bulletin on it.
I need to look up.
But when they're under high demand in hot weather,
they'll, because it's running backwards after them,
it'll fall and put the car in limp mode.
And on the way down here, I was behaving myself.
And then an Audi got up my arse.
And I got quite upset with him and decided to show him.
Show him the legs of the show.
Show him some legs.
And I hit the heady heights of 70 miles an hour.
No, not more.
And I may have been a little bit embarrassed when it suddenly went into
limp mode in the outside lane doing 70 miles an hour.
And had to very quickly proceed over to the inside lane.
But you know, he was chucking all the way off it.
I planned it up, planned it up.
But quite luckily, for some strange reason,
not that I don't trust the car,
I had the diagnostic computer on the passenger seat,
managed to get the OBD dongle in without pulling over,
wipe all the codes and she was back to life.
We're fully restored to full power.
Absolutely fixed.
Beautiful.
Clear codes fixes everything.
Monitor and repair if necessary.
Thanks very much.
See you again later.
But yeah, I really like your L3G2.
I think if you were going to get one,
I mean, a lot of people swear by the TDV8 and for a daily user
that you don't have to live at petrol stations,
it probably is more sensible.
But the 4.2 supercharged is like...
Well, you see the TDV8 is more sensible.
But so where I live, I live in the Peat District,
so you're up and down Dale all the time.
I had a 3.6 TDV8, that would average 22 to the gallon round where I live.
That's averaging 12.
But the running costs, as in maintenance, a service is half the price.
Sure.
Of the diesel.
You've got no DPF to worry about.
You've got no EGR to worry about.
If you're doing a longer commute, yeah, the TDV8 is the one to go for.
If you're doing a commute, I'd say under 10 miles,
the supercharged will work out cheaper over a year.
With the maintenance being cheaper,
petrol itself is 30 to 40 pounds a litre cheaper.
I honestly think it will work out the same, if not cheaper, by the end of a year.
I wonder what the mileage point is in which it tips on the scale.
There's definitely a curve there.
Yeah, there has to be, doesn't there?
Interesting, actually.
Worth it for the smoothness and the noise that they're such a lovely engine.
It's always making me want one.
The dilemma I've got at the minute of do I put an exhaust on it and make it sound like it should.
Rowdy.
But then I ruin the fact that you sit on the motorway and it is silent.
They did screw them together well, the L32.
The TDV8s are brilliant, but having had both,
if you're all going to cruise on a motorway all day,
like when we did the media day down here,
I spent that week driving around the country doing,
I had like a week of events and there wasn't a better car to do it in.
I was doing five or six hours driving a day and you're getting out and you're ready to go again.
I don't think there's another car built, maybe Discovery 4,
that can drive down somewhere like this, drive around that off-road course
in absolute comfort and then get back on the motorway and do another five-hour journey.
Absolutely.
And you're still arriving ready to...
Feeling fresh?
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Well, you couldn't be doing that in a TD5 or third of a TDi Defender, could you?
The rock up at a four-star hotel and go for a swim in your case.
And don't comment.
You're not going to hit the end of that.
How's your roof tent from last year?
Something might have attempted to eat it.
I'm not quite sure what, but it won't be alive for much longer when I get back.
But I should be upset.
But the fact that my room is currently set at 19 degrees
and we'll be at that temperature when I get there later, I'm not that upset.
No, and you've got a swimming pool, haven't you, across the road?
Swimming pool, there's a spa.
But unfortunately, the spa didn't open until 8 o'clock this morning, so I couldn't partake.
I feel like a man that visits a spa very often.
I'm for a dip later on.
Party round, Max.
Shall we see if anyone's got any questions, Steve?
Yes.
Yeah, any questions for Max?
Well, actually, we've got time for a couple.
We've got to do a couple.
Michael is our roving reporter.
Absolutely.
If you've got a question you'd like to answer, stick your hand up.
Michael will come and see you and we'll attempt to answer it to the best of our abilities.
Uh, it's looking pretty quiet out there.
Someone will have a question.
You can always ask them questions.
Yes.
Here we go.
This is a question for Martin.
What are you going to do with your heated steering wheel for your Discovery 4 that you haven't bought?
Well, Adam, the backstory to this is two weeks ago at Billing, I saw Adam.
We had a good chat and I told him about this discovery that I was going to go and look at
buying and he said, oh, there's a stall over the back that's got this heated steering wheel.
It's a really rare option.
You should go and have a look at that.
If you're going to buy it, then you could fit it and have warm hands in the winter.
And I thought, yeah, that sounds like a sensible idea.
So I went and bought it.
Had a bit of a deal with the guy and obviously I haven't bought the car.
So if anyone wants a heated steering wheel for a Discovery 4, 180 pounds, you can have it.
It's not here, but I will post it to you.
I remember Discovery 4, if I remember correctly, that was an option
that was over 800 pounds.
Probably, Adam would.
In 2010, Adam, you would probably know that.
Yeah, 800 pounds option for 180 quid.
That's a bargain.
An expensive box to tick for not having chilly hands.
Yeah.
So you just need to buy a Discovery 4.
That's the...
That might be the crux of it, but anyone else?
Any other questions?
Michael's over there, stick and in the air.
Michael will come and see you.
Why haven't you bought a Discovery 4 yet?
If anyone doesn't know who Michael is, he's the guy with the high veers on.
So, um, find a way.
So, don't buy the TD V6, then?
But the 5 litres are like all the money.
They're from Japan.
They're like 25,000 quid.
But aren't they naturally aspirated?
V8 litres.
Yeah, so just get one of those.
You know, they're all...
They're extortionate.
Should be...
Yeah.
Buy ones, cry ones.
Yeah.
There's one local to me, and it sounds absolutely awesome.
I'm not sure if he's here yet.
Chapa used to work with imported one, a 5 litre, and he's been to Morocco in it and all sorts.
It's an awesome bit.
Mm-hmm.
Very nice.
But, uh, good stuff.
Okay, well, it doesn't look like we've got any takers for questions, so that is fine.
We must have answered them all in previous podcasts.
We must have done exactly that.
So, uh, people over there enjoying the shade, don't blame you at all.
We'll wrap this podcast up, and we will see you again tomorrow at 11 o'clock, rather than 12 o'clock.
We're going to do a little bit earlier, and, yeah, we'll look with a fresh batch of guests.
And you know what we've got to do later?
So, we want to stand over there with van life eats at 3.30.
We've got to do some cooking.
Do you know about this?
Yes, I had tried to forget.
Yeah, so I don't know what we're cooking, but me and you is Matt Martin versus Steve.
A cook-off.
Yes.
Yes, we've got karkana first, so I must hurry and get ready for that.
Yes.
Yeah, karkana in the arena, everybody.
So, um, I want to have a go.
Yes, indeed.
I believe it's at half past one.
Quite a spectacle.
I think I need to get some beer to get into my, uh, my role for that.
Yes, yeah, you're not competing in karkana.
You're, you've got a very important job that you're joining us for.
So, uh, don't miss that over in the main arena.
Once again, thank you ever so much.
Hope you're having an amazing weekend.
And we'll catch up with you very soon.
Bye for now.
About this episode
Land Rover fans get an off-road course walkthrough—complete with “Eddie's bomb holes,” traction-control moments, and stories about keeping cars together (or not) on the trail. The chat then pivots to community: Tea on the Tailgate’s origin in Dorset and how it grew into free, capped-capacity meetups. Along the way, they debate Defender vs Grenadier, discuss retrofitting real air con, and ask whether V8s are the future for daily driving and long commutes.
In this very special episode, Martin and Steve are in pride of place on the Salmon Sofa on a dauntingly large stage at the inaugural Big Land Rover Fest.
The boys talk the best entry point into Land Rovers, why they truly are the most capable off-roaders available, as proven on the Big Land Rover Fest off-road course.
The guys are joined by Grenadier owner (don't hold it against him) and off-road driving instructor Gareth Jex, whose Lantra training was instrumental in helping build and fine-tune the off-road course. Gareth also chats about the greenlaning tours that he runs with his company, Surrey 4x4 Tours and Training, and the electric EV Spartan 4x4 is capturing the imagination of show-goers.
Next up to the Salmon Sofa is Tim Brown from Dorset Land Rover Club, who is the man behind the recent Tea on the Tailgate revolution. How did it start? Where are things heading? Hear it all from the man himself as he joins Martin and Steve on the LRM Podcast.
Fitter Mat is back next, to talk all about his Range Rover and his ownership journey – from fault code clearing on-the-fly, optional extras and general wafting around.
As always, we love to get your feedback and questions, so fire them over! [email protected],uk – we'd love to read them. Enjoy the episode.
