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Hey, guys. Welcome to Overcrest. I'm Chris. And I'm Jake. And this episode is a bridge from
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a bridge. It's a bridge from where we were before sports car vacation land to now. And
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what I'm going to do is I'm going to play you a song. Okay. I think this is like, this is
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like a minute long. I just want you to bear with me and just listen. Are you ready?
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That is the creepiest rendition of that I've ever heard. I tried to find the creepiest one.
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And you know this song, Jake. Everybody does. Everybody knows the song.
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Kids are singing it. They're clapping their hands. Parents are trying to get their kids to
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sing it back to them. But nobody stops to think about what the nursery rhyme really means.
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Falling down, burning, collapsing, misery. This is not a nursery rhyme.
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Is this Pockets for the Posey? Right? No, no, that's we're on the Rosie.
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Oh, you're right. Thank you. Yeah, that's a different. That's also a very, very dark song.
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It is. However, not transportation related. You know, I'm trying to keep things
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bubonic play. Yes, not not. So this is about a real bridge, Jake.
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At one time. The London Bridge. Now, one time. Yes, go ahead. I drove across. Have you?
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Not in London. The original. Yeah, we'll get there. I'm going to yell at you and give you a
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real hard time about that. At one time, the London Bridge wasn't just a stone
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across water. It was a whole neighborhood. Houses, shops, a church, even palaces jammed onto a
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skeleton of ancient arches shoved on top of a murky tidal river for almost 2000 years.
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Is that what it is? It is. It is the River Thames. That's right. Okay.
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For almost 2000 years, it burned, rotted, froze, collapsed, drowned people choked the Thames
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and yet somehow held together long enough to carry London itself across time to where we are today.
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That's the thing. The miracle of the London Bridge isn't that it stood untouched. It is that it burned,
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broke and had to be patched over and over again. It was always in a perpetual state
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of falling down, just like the song says. The miracle is, though, through all this
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punishment, it still managed to carry the city across the Thames for centuries.
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Do we have more history on the song itself? There's not much out there, man.
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Like, where did it, when, when? Around the 1600s is where the song kind of started to appear.
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Yeah. So the song is from the 1600s. It's a longer song, too.
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I don't want to play with all the nursery rhymes. The whole song is about all of these different
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calamities, we'll call them. Yeah. But it's also about like holding it up with pins and needles,
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holding it up with iron and steel. It's like all about holding the bridge up
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because this thing was critical. And that's what we're going to talk about. But first,
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we have to go way back and set the stage a little bit. Okay. Okay. First century.
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First century. So we're talking thousands of years ago, Jake. Thousands. Which,
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fun fact, is not the 1000s. The first century is zero to 999. Yeah. The first, this is, okay,
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so we're talking first century. Yes. Zero to 180. Oh, you're right. Yeah. 99. Not 999.
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Because that would be, what's a century is 100 years? What's a thousand years? A millennia.
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Yes. So to the Romans, Britain was the edge of the world. Think fog, mud, tribes with blue
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paint smeared on their skin cold, living in small roundhouses of timber and thatch, farming
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grain and herding animals. Their lives organized. Was it a third world country? Like the Romans
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were much more civilized. Oh, yeah, absolutely. The English was very uncivilized. Right. Their
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lives were organized into warrior clans tied by kinship and ritual. Meanwhile, in Rome, Caesar
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was, you know, had come there a hundred years earlier. Yeah. Yeah. He came there. They're
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all set up. He won and then he sailed back to Bragg, which left unfinished business.
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Enter Emperor Claudius. That's awkward as an enter Emperor Claudius. Enter Emperor Claudius.
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You needed to win, man. He needed to win. He was considered weak. He was mocked in Rome as a
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stammering, limping scholar rather than a warrior and only made Emperor after the assassination of
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Caligula left the Praetorian Guard. You know what the Praetorian Guard is? You always talk about
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the Praetorian Guard. I'm held up on Caliglia. Is that where calligraphy came from? Jake? No.
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No, no, no. The Praetorian Guard is the Emperor's elite bodyguards who often acted as political
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king makers, choosing and even killing rulers. Oh, so it's like the Secret Service, but they don't
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work for the ruler. No, the other way around. The Praetorian Guard. The senators snickered
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at Claudius, doubting he could lead. So this guy wants glory carved in stone to silence them,
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which means what, Jake? Going to war. You always go to war. You want to be carved? You want a statue?
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Stone. You got to, yeah, you got, if you wanted to be carved in like... Or you could build a monument
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to yourself. Yeah, but it's not the same. Out of stone. If they start throwing tomatoes at it
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and stuff, it's not going to... It has a waste of produce. So for context, this is not long
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after the crucifixion of Christ, just 40 years. Right. Yeah. The Roman Coliseum won't even
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exist for another 30 years. And Britain has resources Rome wants. Tin, lead, iron, grain. I have two.
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It has people, of course. That is a big resource. People that they can do what with.
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In slave. That's right. That's right. And strategically, it was a threat and left unconquered.
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Britain was a perfect base for raids across the channel into the Roman Gaul, which is modern day
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France. Yes, France. They had recently conquered that and turned it into a province not too long
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earlier. So the Gauls. Yeah. The Gauls. Yeah. Claudius sends four legions. Four legions. How many is
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a legion crest? A 10,000. Oh. So he sent 40,000 soldiers. He says more than I expected. Me too.
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It's a little out of control for Britain, right? With dudes with blue paint on their faces. Yeah.
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He sent war elephants, siege engines. War elephants. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Imagine shield walls crashing
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together, iron charging and clanging against iron. Roman pilaf thrown like a hailstorm.
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It's like rocks and burning things. Yeah. Yeah. Cassius Dio, a Roman historian describes the Brighton's
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swimming their horses across rivers to strike the Romans from the flank. The flight the fighting is
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hand to hand. It is brutal. They have spears, swords and the glint of bronze helmets are
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half submit submerged in mud and blood. By the way, because I know you're wondering, Jake.
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Yes. The average Roman soldier stood around five foot seven.
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And those shields. I don't believe it. It's true. Those shields, each scutum, which is what a shield
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is called, stood nearly four feet tall. Big enough to cover a man from shoulder to knee
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when locked together. However, that's the average Brighton facing them was a little
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shorter. Oh. Closer to five foot five. Partly thanks to harder living and less
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consistent nutrition, which means Jake would have fit right in. Yes, malnourished and worked hard.
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I don't know. Hey, when was the whole brave heart? When did that movie take place? I know that was
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the clans of like much later, much, much later Ireland. We're talking. It's like a thousand
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years later. Yeah, it's crazy. That's crazy. I'll talk about that in a little while, but
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that's much, much later on. On the first day of battle, neither side breaks the Brighton's
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fierce and their war paint hold the opposite bank screaming across the water. Roman discipline
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keeps the line steady and the Legionnaires dig in behind their scooter, their tower shields,
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locking them together like a wall. Night falls on a field of corpses and the river Medway
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is choked with bodies. Day two is much worse. Romans drive in bridgeheads, which are temporary
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footholds forced across the river bank to secure position on the far side. Think of those
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tanks that pull up to the water and then the thing unloads. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's those
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things are. It's this. Those things are not powered by a tank. They're using elephants now
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and cavalry to terrify the tribesmen. And can you imagine? Can you imagine? You've never even
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seen an elephant before. You've never seen or even heard. What is this thing? You can't read.
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You've never seen an elephant. There's not picture books. You can't go to a zoo. No.
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To them it must have been a monster out of myth.
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Taller than their huts, bellowing, armored, unstoppable. The river runs red. Men drowning
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under the weight of their own armor. The clash is relentless. The screams rising in the morning
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mist. Thousands die before the Brighton's finally break. When it's done, the Legion stand
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bloodied but unbroken. Claudius' path to London is clear. After Medway, the Thames is next.
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And here's the problem. The Thames is not a lazy brook. It's wide, brown, and tidal.
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20 feet up and 20 feet down twice a day. Try to picture that. A river that breathes in and
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out like a set of lungs, swelling, draining, ripping boats from their moorings. You can't
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ferry an empire across that. This is a very stupid question because you know,
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and everyone listening should know by now, just how gifted I am when it comes to geography.
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How far inland is London? It's like, well, by foot. What are we talking about?
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Are we talking about AI? I'm just curious, how is this river tidal? Clearly, it's from
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the sea or the ocean. So how far in is this tide affected? London's not that far. If you
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look at it, it's like the southeastern side of the United Kingdom. If you look at it now, it's like
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the southeastern, like kind of, you know, they could bomb it from, you know, France would fly
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planes over there and they drop bombs. Right. I'm just curious how far inland a river carries
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a tide more than anything else. Oh, pretty far. I didn't think that was a thing.
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Yeah, definitely. There it is. Okay. So what do the Romans do, Jake?
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They build boats. That's what they do. That's what they do. The Romans build.
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They build roads. They build bridges. You know, some of the, some aqueducts, they build all kinds
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of stuff. Oh, yeah. Imagine this. You're a Roman engineer standing on the bank behind you,
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40,000 soldiers, carts, oxen and siege engines in front of you, a swirling tidal mess. No cranes,
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no concrete mixers, no rebar, just sharpened oak logs, pilings, hammered into the riverbed
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with brute force, drop hammers slamming, massive weights hauled up by teams of laborers,
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often slaves captured in conquest, then let loose to smash piles into the mud, no steam engines,
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no hydraulics, just muscle, sweat and punishment. Is this the first London Bridge?
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This is the first London Bridge. That's right. That first London Bridge is the reason London
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exists. Without it, the camp is just another outpost. With it, you've got a crossing. A crossing
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makes a hub, and a hub makes a port, and a port makes a city. London is born because of that bridge.
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Without Rome forcing that crossing, there is no London, no city and no port. The bridge wasn't
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just a structure, it was the hinge that made London possible. But nothing Rome built here
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was safe. Shortly after in 6080, Boudicca, queen of the Asenai, rises in revolt.
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She was a tall, flame-haired woman described by Roman writers as fierce and commanding.
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She had been publicly humiliated and beaten by Roman officials after her husband's death.
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Her daughters were assaulted. Her tribe's lands were seized. The Romans did not kill her.
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They thought breaking her spirit was enough. Make an example out of her. This was a mistake
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that would haunt them. That fury turned into fire. She rallied neighboring tribes in March with
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the force. Some say numbered in the tens of thousands with some estimates saying
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nearly 100,000, which at the time would have been nearly half the entire population
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of the Roman-Britain area. Governor Satonius, the Roman governor of Britain at the time,
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is badly outnumbered. He looks at the tiny Roman garrison in London and makes a brutal call,
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abandon it, save the province and sacrifice the town. Back in Rome, people were horrified
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that London had been left to burn. Wait, is this the same dude that was trying to make
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a name for himself? No, this is a appointed senator. Yeah, he's like the governor.
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Claudius is way back in Rome. They are not happy with him. By the way, they are not happy with him.
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Not happy. The rebels torched the settlement and flames sweep through what little stood.
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Archaeologists to this day still dig through the thick red layer of ash left behind.
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Thousands are slaughtered or burned alive and whatever crude bridge stood there,
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certainly went with it. That is the rhythm that defines London Bridge for centuries. Build, burn,
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rebuild. Eventually, of course, Rome comes back. Rebuilding the settlement and the bridge
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after Boudicca's revolt, the legions reestablish order, construct sturdier defenses, and pour
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resources back in stronger and bigger. London grows by the second century. It's the capital
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of Roman Britain, government buildings, walls, money flowing, all of it balanced on a bridge.
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But empire's rot. And by the fifth century, the legions march out and the Roman emperor,
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Roman dynasty, not dynasty, what do you call the Roman what? Empire, empire, the Roman empire
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falls. Rome itself is collapsing under waves of invasions, economic strain and political chaos.
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The city of Rome is even sacked in 41080 with the entire empire pulling its soldiers home.
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London is left exposed with no one to make this the Ottomans. Is that is that what came after
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Roman Ottoman Empire? That would be that's like the Middle East, right? That's like the
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Middle East came over like Turkey, you know, because like Germany is there's a lot of
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Ottoman. I don't know anything about that war. Yeah, I'm not like my my war knowledge kind of
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like before the Revolutionary War kind of like starts to go. I should educate myself on that
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stuff more. I was really interested in learning about this stuff. Isn't a joke like when you
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when you hit 45 like you either just become a Roman enthusiast or a World War Two enthusiast?
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Oh, I love World War Two. You pick, yeah, either pick like you're into World War Two
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or you're into Rome. Well, that was a meme for a while. Both are interesting discussions about,
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you know, I was looking at this stuff and the parallels that kind of get drawn between
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just the stupid things men do to each other. It's terrible. So the bridge collapses and once
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again the thriving town shrinks to a shadow itself. Local tribal leaders and later Saxons
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govern the ruins. And while London all but disappears for a time, the site never truly dies.
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It waits in the ashes to resurge centuries later. Okay, we're gonna fast forward a little bit.
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So like it just there was no bridge for hundreds of years. Just there was there was a bridge,
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but it was just like not it not without the Romans there and all the economics of
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the Romans coming there. It was really kind of and remember they didn't really have government.
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Right. So for till like 1100s, things didn't really start to take off. Just plans by the
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1100s and the 1200s. London is bursting. While London strains that it seems the wider world is
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just as alive. In China, the Song Dynasty is inventing gunpowder. In the Middle East,
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Islamic scholars are preserving and expanding classical knowledge in great cities from
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Damascus to Baghdad. Meanwhile, in the Americas, which are unfound at the time,
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Mayan cities are fading and new cultures are rising. Britain is just one stage in a global drama
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of invention, war and upheaval. The Crusades, Jake, are waging. This is the age of chainmail
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and jousts. The pitcher bull writes chainmail like you write a letter and that person has
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to write five letters and, you know, that chainmail. No, no, that's actually that reference
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doesn't even exist anymore. Chainmail. No, it really doesn't. No one would know what
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chainmail is now. No, it's just chainmail. No, it's just forwarding something on
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Instagram is the new chain. Right. But I remember getting like a chainmail. Yeah.
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Letters. Yes. Reply all. You have to send this to five of your friends. Otherwise,
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you don't know what I think was. Yeah. Anyways, okay. Legends like King Arthur
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in the Sword and the Stone helped place this timeframe. It is the world of castles, crusaders,
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romance overlapping with the very real construction of another London bridge.
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The mood. Sorry, again, questions. And it's just giving you an excuse to cough. There you go.
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Yeah, thank you. When were the when were the so-called you're supposed dark ages?
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1300s, I think. That's like you're thinking like black, like, you know,
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yeah, but also like medieval medieval times. Yes. The times, the medieval times,
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like when you're talking about the 11 and 1200s was actually kind of like a, you know,
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a Renaissance time, right? There was a lot of things that were happening.
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But the dark ages were like the monarch plague and war and famine and everything.
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Well, that and like they say society like, you know, collapse or contracted. Right.
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Yeah, like art and design and invention, like nothing happened for three years.
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Everybody's too worried about not dying.
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There is a conspiracy theory that has a lot of weight in it that those 300 years never existed.
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Oh, dark ages is fifth to the 10th century. That was earlier.
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So that was like, so this is, this is a, this is post-dark ages, 1100s.
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Have you heard this theory though? That that does the dark ages didn't actually even exist.
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Like, so literally we, what is it? It's the, it's the 21st century.
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It was created by the church, this 300 year span.
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So in theory, we actually are living in the 1800s, would it be right now?
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Like by the actual timeline.
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So they just manipulated the calendar somehow.
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Yes, yes, exactly. And so when they look back at records, they're like,
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part of it. And the whole reason they like think or know there were dark ages is like,
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well, there was hardly any records from these 300 years.
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Like clearly society collapsed and like nothing happened.
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And it's like, no, actually the thing was something about the church and the pope at the time
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wanted to line up the thousand year or the point of like a thousand years since Christ,
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like the turn of the millennia since Christ with his own reign.
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And basically said, and there were some other political reasons, they're like, well, let's just
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go around and burn all the books and burn all the calendars.
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I guess nobody can read.
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Well, think about it at the time.
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Yeah. No one can read. No one knows what year it is.
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Anyways, it doesn't matter.
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So they just go in all records now.
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They don't even know how old they are.
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It's your, it's your.
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I'm going to die in the next two years.
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It's your 900, not actually year.
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What would that be?
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So there's a theory that like 300 years actually didn't exist.
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So the dark ages were actually only like 10 years or something.
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Anyways, interesting.
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Fascinating if you look at it.
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But centuries earlier, neither here nor there.
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Rome had pushed into Britain and folded it into an empire.
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Now, in the 11 and 1200s, English lords joined a pan European march
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outward against Muslim powers in the east.
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Wars fought over faith, power, and identity.
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London is packed, filthy, alive with trade.
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Centuries of wars, Viking raids, and a Norman conquest
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have hardened Britain into a place used to rebuilding after violence.
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Its economy clawed its way back through wool exports,
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bustling markets along the London bridge over the River Thames,
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and the constant flow of merchants from Europe.
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Still, timber bridges have burned and collapsed again and again.
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The city wants permanence.
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Yeah, let's build a stone.
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So they commissioned Peter of Coal Church,
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a priest with an engineer's brain,
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to build something nobody had ever attempted in England,
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a stone bridge across a tidal river.
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In those days, most educated men were clergy
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because monasteries and churches where we're learning
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and record living kept, worked, lived,
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I'm trying so hard.
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You guys, I'm, I'm a little ill.
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I'm trying not to cough.
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Chris is under the weather.
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Usually I read all these ahead of time.
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I write them and then I'll read them out loud to Jesse
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and go through and make corrections on things that are hard.
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Yeah, we didn't have that.
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I'm trying to save my voice.
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This is director's cut.
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Straight to director's cut.
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Peter wasn't just praying over souls.
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He was trained in practical knowledge, geometry,
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and the kind of organizational skill it took to
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marshal a workforce for a project just like this.
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How do you even do it?
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Today you would drop steel sheet piles,
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pump it dry and pour in reinforced concrete.
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In the 1170s, you had oak, rubble, and willpower,
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and a brute labor of hundreds of workers,
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most of them peasants, craftsmen, or guild laborers.
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Some were coerced or constricted in service.
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They weren't exactly slaves in the Roman sense.
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They drove oak piles.
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Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
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Man, sorry, you didn't pay your garbage, Bill.
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You're going to have to go like wander around in this tidal muck.
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So what they did is they would drive oak piles into the mud
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and oval nearly 20 to 30 feet across.
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They would lash them together
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and then fill it with rubble
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until it rose like a man-made island.
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Imagine a giant wooden basket shoved into the riverbed
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and stuffed with stone until it became a solid ground
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where none existed.
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Around that, they build another cage bigger
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and stuffed it full of more rubble.
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That was called a Starling.
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And then you remove the center rubble?
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No, that was armor against tides, ice, boats, driftwood.
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It was basically a crash barrier protecting the bridge.
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Inside that wooden and rubble island,
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masons laid stone until it rose above the waterline.
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This became the pier, the massive stone base
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that would carry the weight of the arches above.
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Think of each pier as a solid block
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like a squat tower sunk into the river,
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the thing that everything else rests on.
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Building one could take months, even a year,
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with hundreds of laborers moving thousands of tons of stone
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by hand and cart and cutting down entire groves of oak
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to feed the piles and scaffolding.
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Yeah, think of the forest that they had to just disappear.
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19 of these were built, each one in fortress,
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rising out of the water like stone towers planted in the current.
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On top of these piers, they raised arches,
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picture a wooden skeleton built as a mold.
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Stone blocks are laid one by one along the curve,
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each wedge locking tighter until the keystone is dropped in
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and the whole thing holds under its own weight.
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These were not cemented like modern bridges.
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They were masonry arches.
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Cut and carved stone fitted so precisely
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that gravity and geometry alone kept them standing.
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As long as your piling doesn't like sink.
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As long as your piling doesn't sink.
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Picture the mason network hauling blocks of kentish ragstone,
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which is basically limestone limestone.
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They're chiseling them with iron tools and wooden mallets,
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each edge shaped by hand.
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He's standing in ankle deep mud, sweat on his face
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and dust in his lungs to measure.
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He's probably he's probably he's nice guy.
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He's standing in that mud measuring with something called crude,
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a crude divider, which is kind of like a compass.
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It has two iron legs joined at the top
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and they would scratch the arcs into wood or wax.
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That's how he copied the curves
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and transfer the measurements from board to stone.
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For alignment, he drops plumb blobs on strings
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and uses straight rods as sight lines.
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How do you find a straight rod?
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I actually looked for like pictures of like straight rods.
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Is it just a stick?
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It's just a tree that's like this one's really straight.
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Men crouch in the mud laying long poles end to end
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peering along them with one eye closed
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to check if the line stayed true.
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It's primitive, almost laughably simple
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compared to lasers and levels today, but it worked.
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Those rods and strings kept geometry true
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in the middle of chaos.
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The stones are dragged in by ox cart
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or floated down the river on barges.
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Each block a small mountain moved by rope
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and again, sheer will.
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These masons were not anonymous laborers.
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They were skilled craftsmen's trains through guilds,
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which I was like, what's it feels like?
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Well, obviously the free masons, Chris.
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I was wondering if it was like, is it like the union?
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But it sounds like it's a mix
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between college and labor union.
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Training craftsmen through apprenticeship
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and also protecting their trade
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and years of apprenticeship.
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Passing knowledge from father to son,
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very often father to son.
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That's why your name would be like Carl's son
27:38
because you want to be the son of Carl
27:40
and you're the blacksmith or whatever.
27:42
It would be Mason, Mason, Masonson.
27:45
Masonson. No, well, you'd be Charles Mason.
27:48
Oh, yeah, right. Yeah, clearly.
27:49
The names were very simple back then.
27:52
So no cement binds their work,
27:53
only the geometry of the arch.
27:55
Their world was noise, dusk and risk.
27:59
Some spans were 15 feet, some 30,
28:02
depending on where the piles would bite.
28:04
Symmetrical, asymmetrical from day one.
28:07
A row of uneven stone ribs stretching
28:09
across the river Thames.
28:11
So, so they, assumedly,
28:13
when they started to put these pilings,
28:15
they're like, all right, by design,
28:16
we're going to make them, you know,
28:18
we're going to go 30 feet or whatever it is.
28:20
Didn't work because there's like,
28:21
when I talk about the piling sinking
28:23
or settling that obviously happened.
28:25
And so they're like, well, I can't do it there.
28:27
So we're going to go another 10, 15 feet.
28:31
That's why it took forever.
28:33
It took 30 years to build this bridge.
28:36
And when it opened in 1209,
28:38
there was fanfare, bells ringing,
28:41
processions across its length.
28:43
King John took credit,
28:44
though the true genius was Peter of Coal Church
28:47
and the Masons who carved it from stone.
28:50
Medieval chroniclers wrote of its marvel
28:53
and later artists sketched and painted its arches,
28:56
capturing the pride of a city
28:57
that had never seen anything like it.
29:02
And then London went insane.
29:08
They didn't just cross the bridge.
29:12
Imagine looking up as you stepped onto the span,
29:15
houses looming above you, timber stacked,
29:18
three, four, even six stories high,
29:21
tilting toward the river like they might topple in a storm.
29:26
Cross buildings overhead made stretches of the bridge
29:29
into shadowed tunnels,
29:31
sunlight broken into shards.
29:33
There were about 140 to 150 properties crammed
29:37
onto that stone spine.
29:39
It was five to 800 people live there.
29:42
An entire real estate.
29:45
Like why are you trying to capture the commerce
29:47
as it comes into London, Jake?
29:48
So literally you're just making your shop over the bridge.
29:51
And as a shopkeeper,
29:53
you need to live above your shop.
29:57
Who mandated like were you selling,
30:00
was the city selling plots along the bridge?
30:02
Or did some guy just come in and he's like,
30:04
his cart that he brought onto the bridge one day,
30:07
the wheel broke and it stopped working.
30:09
And then he's like, well,
30:10
I'm just going to camp out next to my cart
30:11
that I can't get off the bridge.
30:12
And then he starts just building up
30:14
his cart into a shop and someone else goes,
30:16
I'm going to do that.
30:18
I think that's probably what it was.
30:19
You know, you have highwaymen, right?
30:21
You know what a highwayman is.
30:22
You know, they just wander the highway
30:24
and maybe they decided,
30:25
hey, I'm going to sell some of this shit
30:27
at the entrance of the bridge.
30:28
Like you said, they set up a tent
30:30
and then someone else set up a tent
30:31
and I'm sure it spiraled out of control,
30:34
you know, over the course of years.
30:37
Shops at street level sold everything
30:39
from gloves and knives to books.
30:41
While families cooked, fought and slept above them,
30:44
you could hear the hammering of a cutler
30:45
next to the chanting of a chapel choir.
30:48
Later came the non-such house.
30:53
Yes, it's the non-such house.
30:55
A timber palace with ridiculous onion domes
30:58
shipped piece by piece from Holland
31:00
and assembled like a Lego set
31:02
balanced over the river.
31:04
It was the largest prefabricated building
31:06
of its time, carried across the channel,
31:09
plank by plank, every joint numbered
31:11
and rebuilt without a single nail.
31:14
Only wooden pegs held it together.
31:18
Imagine standing on this bridge,
31:20
looking up at this cartoonish palace
31:21
perched above shops and hobbles,
31:23
like a fairy tale dropped into a slum.
31:29
And that is the point.
31:31
A ridiculous flex that somehow balanced
31:33
on the same arches already sagging
31:34
under the weight of a small town.
31:37
So it wasn't just a crossing.
31:40
It was a neighborhood, a fortress,
31:42
a market and a fire trap.
31:45
All of it suspended over 19 uneven arches
31:49
fighting the tides.
31:52
Think about the load.
31:54
Stone arches below a road barely wide
31:56
enough for two wagons.
31:58
Isn't that ridiculous?
31:59
That's a painting from period.
32:02
There's just a bunch of paintings.
32:03
There's obviously no photos or anything
32:04
like that because, you know,
32:05
right, right, if you didn't exist.
32:06
Just wild like what?
32:09
I didn't know any of this.
32:10
You know, I just started started digging.
32:12
I vaguely like it sounds familiar.
32:14
Like, yeah, there was a weird like.
32:18
Think about the load Jake,
32:19
140 houses, 150 houses and buildings,
32:22
kitchens with open flames,
32:23
chimneys coughing smoke into the fog,
32:25
families packed overhead and livestock,
32:28
carts, priests, beggars,
32:29
butchers with bleeding carcasses hung
32:31
from hooks, taverns sloshing ale,
32:34
blacksmiths hammering iron,
32:35
even a public latrine
32:37
dripping straight into the river.
32:39
Yeah, probably not a road.
32:40
Dogs are snapping at heels and pigs
32:42
are rooting in the garbage.
32:44
Feral children are darting through
32:46
horses eventually children.
32:48
Carriages thundered through the chaos.
32:51
It was less a bridge than a circus
32:56
Could you even get through?
33:00
No, and we're going to get there.
33:02
OK, I was like, at what point
33:04
did they start charging?
33:07
It's a very interesting discovery.
33:11
John Stowe in his survey of London
33:15
didn't just mention the bridge in passing.
33:17
He marveled at how it was
33:19
replenished on both sides with large
33:21
fair and beautiful houses,
33:23
describing it as though it were another
33:25
great street of the city
33:26
suspended above the Thames.
33:27
To him, the bridge wasn't just a crossing,
33:29
but its own district packed with
33:34
Centuries later, Bruce Watson
33:36
pushed the point further, calling it,
33:38
a chaotic blend of commerce,
33:40
housing and traffic,
33:42
equal parts market fortress and madhouse.
33:45
Unlike anything else in medieval Europe,
33:50
by any sane measure,
33:52
it should have collapsed.
33:54
The road was absurd.
33:56
Some estimates suggest thousands
34:00
plus the weight of 140 houses,
34:03
hundreds of animals and carts and people
34:05
packed shoulder to shoulder.
34:07
It's like parking a small town,
34:09
maybe 20 or 30 fully loaded 747 jets
34:12
on top of a row of stone arches.
34:16
The design was constantly patched
34:18
and no modern inspector would have
34:21
but somehow it worked.
34:23
Overbuilt piers, redundant arches,
34:25
and sheer stubborn medieval engineering.
34:28
And maybe the secret was
34:30
that there was no OSHA,
34:33
and no safety limit.
34:33
Yeah, no one cared.
34:34
They piled it high and trusted stone
34:37
and a lot of Catholic faith
34:42
On foot in the 1300s,
34:44
it wasn't just the shops and animals anymore,
34:47
it was claustrophobia.
34:51
There exists a scale model
34:55
of what this looked like at the peak.
35:00
It does look very cool.
35:01
Hold on, where is it again?
35:03
Like this is obviously
35:05
in some old cathedral or something,
35:07
but that is like a long,
35:10
this is a good shot
35:11
because you can see just how damn long
35:14
Yeah, it's 150 houses,
35:17
Did you get to the point
35:18
where there's a drawbridge
35:18
because I'm looking
35:19
and there's a drawbridge?
35:20
I did not see the drawbridge.
35:24
at some point someone
35:25
and they're like, what?
35:26
Yeah, we need a drawbridge here.
35:28
We got to pull down your house.
35:37
pressed in from all sides,
35:40
breath hot on your neck,
35:41
hawkers shouting in your ear,
35:44
beggars tugging at your sleeve
35:45
and dogs at your legs,
35:48
dumped from windows
35:49
splashing into the river,
35:52
guts and coal smoke
35:53
so thick it coats your tongue.
35:55
It was a sensory overload,
35:58
and a smell and humanity
36:03
By carriage in the 1600s,
36:07
The roadway was maybe 15 feet
36:09
wide hemmed by stone and timber.
36:11
Two wagons could scrape past
36:15
if both drivers had the guts
36:17
and they were in the right spot.
36:19
Gridlock was constant.
36:21
Tempers always boiled.
36:23
Wheels grinded on cobbles.
36:25
It got so bad that in 1722,
36:28
the city had to issue an ordinance
36:30
forcing drivers to keep left.
36:34
That simple order is why Britain
36:36
still drives on the left today.
36:39
Born out of frustration
36:41
on the London Bridge.
36:42
The idea came from the city
36:44
authorities in 1722
36:46
desperate to untangle the chaos.
36:48
Drivers were instructed
36:50
to keep to the left as they crossed,
36:51
a rule enforced by wardens
36:53
posted on each end.
36:56
The gridlock eased,
36:59
and soon the habit spread
37:01
Over time it became law
37:04
woven so deeply in British life
37:06
that three centuries later
37:09
still follows a traffic rule
37:10
born on that cramped medieval span.
37:14
Do you know why you stay
37:15
to the left, Chris?
37:21
let me think of this now,
37:22
it's something about
37:23
how you're right-handed
37:25
and you're driving a team of horses.
37:28
You're using that hand to use your,
37:31
I'm sure there's an actual name for it
37:32
because it's not just a whip.
37:33
It's like to stick the rope on the end.
37:38
or maybe it's that's in your left hand
37:39
because you're right-handed
37:40
and you need this for something else
37:42
and so you're on that side
37:43
and you want to be able to see,
37:45
it's just like how you drive,
37:47
you know, on the right here
37:48
because you're closer to the left side.
37:50
It had to do with where the position
37:52
of the driver was on the cart.
37:53
Where they sat on the horse.
37:55
Yeah, where they sat on the cart.
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All of that bustle and weight shake
39:37
is coming at a cost
39:39
because a bridge stuffed
39:40
with horses and houses
39:42
and people and wagons was
39:44
nothing but a tinder box.
39:48
To go up in flames.
39:50
Crowds were packed tight
39:52
and shimmies puffed smoke.
39:53
It was a set up for disaster.
39:54
It was dangerous from the start.
39:57
The most infamous fire was in 1212
40:00
when flames broke out
40:01
on both ends of the bridge at once.
40:05
yeah, it seems like someone
40:06
was doing arson there.
40:09
So it's called doing arson,
40:10
not committing arson.
40:12
That is something to do.
40:15
I don't know, Jesse's always in.
40:17
Are you going to do an arson?
40:20
You're going to do arson anyway.
40:20
That's how you do it.
40:21
You're going to do an arson.
40:22
Yeah, they trapped hundreds
40:24
of people in the middle.
40:26
Imagine that terror.
40:27
Yeah, you can't go either way.
40:30
Heat pushing people back
40:32
I mean the good news,
40:33
the good news is you're on a bridge.
40:36
Many leapt into the River Thames,
40:37
their wool and linen clothing
40:38
catching fire before they even
40:41
Contemporary swimming.
40:43
Contemporary chronicles.
40:44
Yeah, no, probably not
40:47
Contemporary chroniclers
40:49
like Matthew Parris
40:50
claimed thousands perished that day,
40:52
though the real number
40:53
may have been in the hundreds.
40:54
Still, it was one of the
40:55
deadliest urban fires
40:57
etched into their memory,
40:59
proof that London Bridge
41:00
was still a death trap
41:01
as much as it was a lifeline.
41:05
fire got to the northern houses
41:08
torching whole rolls
41:11
in an ironic twist,
41:14
created a firebreak
41:15
that would later save the day
41:16
when the great fire
41:17
of 1666 roared through London,
41:21
consuming more than 13,000 houses,
41:25
The gap left by the 1633 blaze
41:28
from sweeping across
41:34
Samuel Pepis, the diarist,
41:36
wrote of standing on the river
41:39
the poor pigeons I perceive
41:41
were lost to leave their houses,
41:42
but hovered above the windows
41:45
and their wings fell down.
41:48
Without that accidental firebreak.
41:49
Is he talking about pigeons
41:50
or is he talking about people?
41:53
He's a he's a diarist,
41:55
Right. So, you know.
41:57
Without that accidental
41:58
the destruction would have been
42:00
total and complete.
42:03
The river itself posed
42:07
if you remember those
42:08
massive stone casings
42:12
that the water level
42:14
stood up to six feet
42:20
it blasted through the narrow
42:22
releasing floodwater.
42:25
shooting the bridge.
42:27
And it was notorious.
42:31
Skilled watermen would charge
42:32
extra to take passengers through
42:34
steering hard against the torrent,
42:36
praying they didn't smash
42:38
Newspapers of the 1700s
42:40
carried regular notices
42:43
Whole fairies upended.
42:46
It was said more Londoners
42:47
died trying to shoot the bridge
42:49
than from the Highwaymen
42:51
murdering and robbing them
42:56
the current slowed above the bridge
43:01
the slowed current above the bridge
43:03
allowed the Thames to freeze solid.
43:06
Out of this hazard came spectacle.
43:10
Imagine rows of tents and stalls
43:13
Hawkers selling gingerbread
43:16
I see where this is going, Chris.
43:19
Yeah, no, that's OK.
43:20
Yeah, totally, totally fine.
43:22
We're not going through the ice.
43:23
We're not going through the ice.
43:24
Coaches rattle across frozen water.
43:26
Children skated with bones
43:28
tied to their shoes.
43:29
And Londoners drank gin
43:30
by bonfires lit on a river.
43:32
Turn the glass ice.
43:34
The last great frost fair was in 1814.
43:37
When an elephant was marched
43:38
across the oh, no, here we go.
43:41
But in medieval centuries,
43:42
it was a recurring carnival
43:45
throttled by the bridge.
43:47
Sadly, no, take that.
43:48
The elephant still didn't go through.
43:50
Everything's not a tragedy, dude.
43:53
Totally went through the ice.
43:55
And then, of course, as with anything,
43:58
there are politics involved.
44:01
The bridge wasn't just commerce and cast.
44:04
It was a stage for power.
44:06
The Southwark gate became a grotesque gallery.
44:10
It spikes crowned with severed heads,
44:14
tarred and blackened for all to see.
44:19
Yeah, William Wallace.
44:20
Yeah, I know the name.
44:21
OK, well, you brought it up earlier.
44:22
Yes, OK, thank you.
44:24
I didn't put it together.
44:25
That's William Wallace had his head,
44:27
you know, stuck there in 1305.
44:29
He was a trader to hum some hero to others
44:33
who stuck there as a warning.
44:34
The severed heads were literally
44:36
scalded in boiling pitch or brine
44:40
The skin turned black and leathery.
44:42
The features twisted into grotesque masks.
44:46
Did they do that before rafter killing them?
44:50
Well, they cut their head off
44:51
and then stick it in the boiling pitch.
44:52
So probably not alive anymore.
44:54
Yeah, it's called parboiling.
44:55
That's what it's called.
44:57
After the peasants revolt in 1381,
45:00
Watt Tyler's followers ended the same way.
45:02
In 1535, it was Thomas Moore,
45:05
once Lord Chancellor.
45:07
His head set beside common criminals.
45:11
Moore was not just a politician.
45:13
He was a Renaissance humanist,
45:16
His most famous work, Utopia.
45:19
Any socialist should read Utopia.
45:22
Described in imaginary island society
45:24
organized around shared property,
45:26
strict rules and communal living.
45:28
At the time, it was satire and social commentary.
45:31
But centuries later, people would seize on it
45:33
as a precursor to criticizing socialists
45:37
and communist thought.
45:39
Moore refused to bend to Henry VIII's split
45:42
with the Catholic Church.
45:43
Henry VIII, a thiam.
45:45
Choosing scaffold over compromise.
45:49
That stubbornness made him a martyr to some
45:52
and a villain to others.
45:53
And finally, just another head
45:55
on a pike above London Bridge.
45:58
It probably didn't smell good either, Chris.
46:02
Maybe they're cooked.
46:04
The tar sealed it in.
46:05
Well, tar, the brine, you know.
46:08
That was not the worst smelling thing
46:10
No, I'm sure it was not.
46:13
I don't think people showered or bathed much more than...
46:15
Yeah, I don't think people had a sense of smell.
46:20
It's all in what you get used to.
46:23
Ford Visors, like the German traveler Paul Hinsner
46:26
in the late 1500s, wrote with horror
46:28
about crossing under the grizzly displays,
46:30
noting the rows and rows of heads, quote,
46:34
parboiled and set upon poles
46:36
on the most conspicuous part of the bridge.
46:40
From the road, you could see hollow eye sockets,
46:42
lips shrunk back from teeth,
46:44
crows pulling at their hair.
46:47
It was a theater of decay deliberately made
46:52
A message rotting in slow motion above the Thames.
46:55
Others described the stench that drifted down the roadway,
46:58
the sight of crows pecking at faces.
47:00
To them, it was both terrifying and unforgettable,
47:04
proof that London ruled by fear as much as law.
47:08
It told every traveler exactly who ruled London
47:12
and what defiance would cost them.
47:16
Eventually, by the 1700s, the bridge was exhausted.
47:21
The weight of centuries had caught up with it.
47:25
Once teeming with houses, the once teeming houses
47:29
were finally torn down by 1761.
47:32
Whole families and shops evicted in the name of safety.
47:35
The roadway was widened to cope with the crush
47:37
of carts and carriages, but the old medieval peers
47:41
still strangled the Thames, turning the river
47:43
into a bottleneck that backed up sewage and trade alike.
47:47
Traffic was changing.
47:49
Coaches were larger, wagons were heavier,
47:51
and soon the first rumble of industry
47:53
was echoing in the city.
47:55
The bridge that once embodied London now felt
47:58
like a choke chain around its throat.
48:00
Parliament debated it for years before finally ordering
48:03
a new bridge, admitting that the medieval marble
48:06
had become a liability, a relic from another age.
48:11
John Rennie designed a granite five-arch bridge,
48:16
which opened in 1831.
48:18
The medieval bridge stood after six centuries,
48:22
finally came down stone by stone.
48:26
Six hundred years, Jake, that other bridge stood.
48:34
Wait, so why is London Bridge falling down?
48:40
By the 1960s, Rennie's proud granite bridge,
48:44
barely 130 years old, was sinking under the pounding
48:49
of Rennie's buses and cars that had never been
48:52
The Thames clay beneath its piers gave way,
48:55
the whole span dropping an inch every eight years.
49:00
For a structure meant to last centuries,
49:02
it felt almost pathetic.
49:04
A reminder that Victorian engineering,
49:07
for all its triumphs, was not invincible.
49:10
Londoners grumbled at the bottlenecks.
49:12
Parliament studied reports of subsidence,
49:14
and eventually the city conceded it needed
49:16
yet another replacement bridge.
49:19
Rennie's bridge, once a marvel of the 1830s,
49:22
was written off as obsolete within almost a single human lifetime.
49:29
Strangely, Robert McCullough, an American oil man and developer
49:33
who had literally founded Lake Havasu City
49:35
out of an empty desert in the 1960s,
49:39
bought the bridge in 1968 for under two and a half million dollars
49:45
as a way to draw people to its brand new creation.
49:49
Each of Rennie's granite blocks was carefully numbered, dismantled,
49:53
and shipped across the Atlantic through the Panama Canal
49:57
and hauled by truck into the Arizona desert.
50:01
Under the blazing sun, workers reassembled it
50:03
over a man-made canal that McCullough had cut through the sand,
50:07
but with a twist, the old stones were now just a skin
50:10
wrapped around a reinforced concrete core.
50:13
What had once held back the Thames now stood over an artificial
50:16
waterway built as much for marketing as for function.
50:21
It opened in 1971 with marching bands,
50:24
parades, and a carnival atmosphere.
50:28
Thousands of curious visitors came to see the bridge from London,
50:32
reborn the desert, and property sales at McCullough's new city boomed.
50:37
The rumor has always lingered that McCullough
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The man knew that headlines would cause confusion and generate buzz.
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50:52
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more famous in Arizona than it had ever been in London.
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fake tutor pubs, a street in the sky reborn as a marketing stunt.
51:09
And I'm still mad at you and Jeff, because I wanted to go,
51:16
I wanted to see it, and you guys abandoned me that morning.
51:19
You guys left, I was in the Shirako, and I was with Jesse,
51:22
and you guys left us.
51:24
You guys left us, and I couldn't catch you.
51:27
100%, the Shirako was too slow, I think.
51:29
And you guys were like, see you later, and you were gone.
51:34
I don't even know if Jeff even went with me.
51:35
I think it was just chasing me that went over on the car.
51:39
I actually don't say anything about it.
51:41
But I feel like that was just kind of like-
51:43
Tell me about what you saw there.
51:44
Tell me, explain this thing in London Bridge.
51:46
I literally was on the highway and saw a road that said
51:49
London Bridge, Arrow, and I was like, what?
51:52
And so I turned, knowing nothing about it at all.
51:55
And as I'm going, I'm telling Chase in the passenger seat,
51:57
I was like, can you Google, is this,
51:59
did they move the London Bridge or something?
52:01
And sure enough, that was the assumption,
52:03
and sure enough they did.
52:05
Would it look obvious that it wasn't like-
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No, I didn't know it's only like a facade, but like-
52:10
It was not that remarkable.
52:11
It seemed like just a bridge in any other, like-
52:15
Would it have been more remarkable in 1968, do you think?
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Do you think you're spoiled?
52:25
I don't think it was really that impressive.
52:28
It did look like it had the most English-seeming thing
52:31
about the whole thing was the old-timey gas lanterns.
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They were probably LED at this point,
52:36
but like they had those along there,
52:38
and so it looked very like, huh.
52:39
And I was kind of surprised, like, I can drive on this, huh?
52:42
Like, this is just a road.
52:43
It's this ancient-ass bridge, yeah.
52:45
So, yeah, it was not that special.
52:46
Back in London, the current London Bridge is a plain,
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but sturdy concrete and steel span open in 1973.
52:54
No palaces, no circus of chaos,
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just six lanes of traffic and footpaths carrying thousands
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across the Thames every day.
53:02
The modern London Bridge is functional.
53:04
Boring, but it does its job.
53:07
A reminder that after 2,000 years of collapse
53:10
and reinvention, the city still cannot live
53:14
without a bridge in this spot.
53:17
Yeah, it is interesting.
53:19
They kept, like, they kept putting it in the same spot.
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Well, it's probably the shortest,
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shortest distance across the water.
53:28
The song maybe echoes a Viking saga.
53:30
Maybe it's about the endless repairs.
53:32
Maybe it's just gallows humor from people who knew
53:34
the bridge was always half broken.
53:36
But who is the fair lady?
53:39
Nobody knows for sure.
53:43
Some say it was Eleonora Province,
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Queen Consort to Henry III,
53:47
who once held rights to tolls on the bridge.
53:50
Others argue it was the Virgin Mary,
53:52
the church's dedication on the bridge itself.
53:54
Still, others think it was just a stand-in,
53:56
a rhyme's placeholder,
53:57
like saying, dear lady or fine lady with no name at all.
54:01
The mystery is why part of that song stuck.
54:04
It lets every generation imagine their own figure
54:07
watching the bridge crumble.
54:10
But the truth is simple,
54:12
London Bridge really was always almost falling down
54:15
and people kept singing about it.
54:19
It was basically making fun of the whole situation.
54:24
What makes it worth remembering, though,
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isn't that it was always failing,
54:26
is that it did hold for those 600 years.
54:30
600 years, yeah, right.
54:32
That's the London Bridge I think about
54:33
when I read all this and stuff.
54:34
I'm not thinking about the Romans.
54:35
I didn't know there was, yeah, like a half way,
54:39
like a, I don't know,
54:40
the what, 70-year bridge, 80-year bridge?
54:43
Six centuries of insane loads
54:46
with a whole town perched above a tidal river
54:48
carried by uneven arches on rubble-filled cages,
54:51
fires, floods, ice, executions.
54:54
And none of it came down.
54:56
It wasn't elegant. It wasn't neat.
54:57
It was messy, crooked, patched, overcrowded.
55:01
That's probably why it worked.
55:02
Like an old race car held together
55:04
with duct tape and stubbornness.
55:06
It flexed instead of snapping.
55:08
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Yeah, the one I went over, I think,
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Do you have a favorite bridge, Jake?
57:49
Let me ask you this, actually.
57:50
Have you been in New York City?
57:53
So you have not seen the Brooklyn Bridge?
57:54
I have not seen Brooklyn or any of the boroughs.
57:57
They're so cool, man, these stone bridges
57:59
and some of this stuff is, it's absolutely beautiful.
58:02
And I know that we've moved on.
58:05
Things used, I think things had,
58:06
used to have to be bigger back in the day.
58:09
Like they just had to have more to them
58:11
because we didn't have the engineering to just,
58:13
we had to rely more on brute strength
58:15
than finesse when it came to engineering.
58:18
So you have all these big monolithic things
58:21
and now things have gotten so
58:24
efficiency based, right?
58:26
It's from like an economic and material standpoint
58:29
when you talk about how things need to be built.
58:31
That has a charm of its own.
58:34
Look at old trellis train bridges.
58:38
Don't you think those are cool in a way?
58:40
Because they are so minimalistic.
58:42
No, because they're all the same.
58:45
They don't stand out.
58:46
It's all the same design over and over again.
58:47
I mean, I will look at it.
58:48
Are you talking like the underside trellis bridge,
58:50
like the arches that go underneath the rail?
58:52
That's a sub structure or a superstructure either way.
58:55
I'm going to tell you about my favorite bridges.
58:57
Which are train bridges.
59:01
So they're all three are on the St. Croix River.
59:04
So the Arcola High Bridge.
59:07
Have you ever heard of or seen or...
59:10
Is that the one that looks like Mickey Mouse ears?
59:15
The one in Prescott there?
59:17
That's a different one.
59:18
Yeah, that is a Mickey Mouse one because it has...
59:20
Ooh, that's the fourth bridge I like.
59:23
No, if you Google Arcola High Bridge,
59:26
it is a massive span, extremely high up,
59:29
because there's bluffs and they're like,
59:31
well, we got to get a train track across back in like...
59:34
I think it was built in the late 1800s, actually.
59:38
I should look this up if you're not...
59:41
And what's cool about it is back in...
59:44
When we were in high school, you can drive right up to the edge of it,
59:48
up at the top, and you could...
59:50
There was nothing stopping you from walking all the way out.
59:53
And there's no railings.
59:55
There's no actually like floor or like support.
59:58
It's literally just railroad ties on top of the beams.
00:02
Just nothing underneath.
00:03
There's nothing, nothing there.
00:04
So do you like this bridge because of your nostalgia
00:06
of doing that as a kid?
00:07
A little bit, but I also like that it's so unsafe
00:10
and it's still there.
00:12
And it's just like...
00:13
That photo didn't do it justice.
00:14
How high up in the air you are and how far it spans.
00:19
And I think that is very charming in its own way.
00:22
Like that is a very cool bridge object.
00:25
I would say for me, it kind of comes from nostalgia too.
00:28
I really do like the...
00:29
This is such a boring choice.
00:32
What is your favorite bridge?
00:36
I really do like the Golden Gate Bridge.
00:39
Driving across it is really, really special.
00:46
And it's one of those things that if they were to build
00:48
that bridge again, it would not look like that.
00:51
It would be much simpler.
00:53
Even if you look at the New Stillwater Bridge,
00:55
it's really just boring.
00:58
And that's even a suspension bridge, technically.
01:01
It is, technically.
01:02
Let's see if that...
01:03
Yeah, here I've got a picture of this thing too.
01:05
I remember taking my boat up there
01:07
when they were building this bridge.
01:09
And they were flying in some of the sections.
01:11
Because everything's just built in sections now.
01:14
They don't really build it on site.
01:18
It's kind of boring.
01:20
The coolest thing about this bridge
01:22
is underneath you can see the two roadways.
01:25
Think of it as basically two separate channels.
01:28
And they're big sections.
01:30
They're big hollow U-shaped underneath sections
01:35
that are, as you said, lifted into place and put there.
01:37
But that means inside, there's basically
01:40
two giant tunnels underneath the roadway.
01:42
And that's where all of your utility conduit
01:45
and everything goes through.
01:46
But there is access to go through there.
01:48
And I would love to see photos of what that looks like.
01:50
Maybe we can sneak in there.
01:53
Maybe we can ask permission.
01:54
That would be better.
01:55
You're getting really good at permitting
01:57
when we were out in California.
02:00
Unfortunately, yeah.
02:01
So you want me to get a permit to get into the bridge.
02:06
Okay, I like that plan.
02:07
All right, I'm running out of voice.
02:08
So I'm going to let you go.
02:09
I'll leave you and everyone else with a little bit of a sorry.
02:15
Take care, everybody.
02:16
We will see you all next week.