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Don't Fix What Ain't Broken ... Except Dale's Phone

Don't Fix What Ain't Broken ... Except Dale's Phone

The Dale Jr. Download Apr 24, 2026 31 min
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About this episode

Dale Jr. Download’s “Dirty Thirty” mixes NASCAR talk, racing history, and a chaotic personal story. Dale and guests debate whether NASCAR should keep the current car body or risk switching to something like an electric CUV-style platform—arguing that changing what’s working could hurt momentum. There’s also a behind-the-scenes look at crew-chief trust and career moves involving Bobby Allison. The episode’s funniest moment: Dale loses a smashed phone in St. Martin, triggering emergency alerts and a frantic hunt. Later, Ricky Carmichael discusses burnout, sacrifice, and sticking with motocross through the grind.

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Company

GM Genuine Parts

"Get the most out of your vehicle with GM Genuine Parts and AC Delco original equipment."

These are replacement parts sold by or through GM that are meant to fit and work like the original parts. The idea is that they match GM’s specs for your car.

Brand

AC Delco

"Get the most out of your vehicle with GM Genuine Parts and AC Delco original equipment."

AC Delco is a GM-associated brand that makes replacement parts. It’s often used for parts that are supposed to be the right fit for GM vehicles.

Term

original equipment

"Get the most out of your vehicle with GM Genuine Parts and AC Delco original equipment."

Original equipment means the part is made to match what the car originally used. It’s usually chosen when you want the replacement to fit and work like the factory part.

Concept

OEM-equivalent

"Whether or not you drive a GM vehicle, you can find your perfect fit for most makes and models and shoes from three tiers of parts, including GMOE or gold and silver aftermarket parts."

OEM-equivalent parts are made to be as close as possible to the original factory parts. The goal is that they fit right and behave like the part your car was built with.

Topic

cup races

"There's like, come on, we got this deal, we're going to go race with Mark. So that went really well. You ended up finishing 11th at Dover in one of those cup races with Mark, but you would return to full-time cup racing..."

They’re referring to NASCAR’s top series, often called the “Cup” series. When they say someone finished 11th, that’s their place in that specific race.

Topic

Dover

"You ended up finishing 11th at Dover in one of those cup races with Mark, but you would return to full-time cup racing with Bobby as the crew chief in 87."

Dover is a famous NASCAR race track. It’s the kind of track where how you set up the car and manage tires can make a big difference.

Term

crew chief

"...but you would return to full-time cup racing with Bobby as the crew chief in 87. So two years with Mark, racing."

A crew chief is the lead strategist for a racing team, responsible for race strategy, car setup direction, and coordinating the pit crew. In NASCAR, the crew chief’s decisions during practice and the race can heavily influence tire wear and track position.

Topic

full-time cup racing

"You ended up finishing 11th at Dover in one of those cup races with Mark, but you would return to full-time cup racing with Bobby as the crew chief in 87."

“Full-time” here means racing in the Cup series regularly throughout the season, not just a few events. It usually comes with a more consistent team and car.

Company

Stavola Brothers

"He found a home at Stavola Brothers, and Billy and Mickey were super nice people."

Stavola Brothers refers to a racing team/organization. Here, it’s the place where the speaker’s job as crew chief ended up.

Concept

pit stops

"And then Mark, when I talked to Mark about it and Jerry, they says, do not turn that off or down. Sure. You've got to go."

Pit stops are when the car comes in during the race to get service—usually tires and fuel. When you stop (and how quickly) can change where you run on the track.

Concept

NASCAR

"And then, fortunately enough, Jack picked Mark up right after that, and everything kind of worked out the same or maybe he was ex-finity racing before that. Mark would go run at 31."

NASCAR is a stock-car racing series where teams run oval-track races and rely heavily on pit strategy and car setup. The roles and decisions mentioned here—like crew chief direction—are central to how NASCAR teams operate.

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Exfinity racing

"Jack picked Mark up right after that, and everything kind of worked out the same or maybe he was ex-finity racing before that. Mark would go run at 31."

“Xfinity” is NASCAR’s second major racing series. It’s a place where drivers and teams compete at a high level, often as preparation for the top NASCAR series.

Concept

electric vehicle

"This is Adam Stern tweet and he says, long term, you see it as we do have the CUV body that we developed in our electric vehicle. I'm not sitting here saying today that we're breaking news. It's going to CUV."

An electric vehicle (EV) uses an electric motor powered by a battery instead of a gasoline engine. The segment connects EV development to future vehicle body styles (like CUV) that could influence how racing series think about the “future” of their cars.

Concept

CUV body

"This is Adam Stern tweet and he says, long term, you see it as we do have the CUV body that we developed in our electric vehicle. I'm not sitting here saying today that we're breaking news. It's going to CUV."

CUV stands for crossover utility vehicle. It’s basically a car body style that sits between a regular car and a truck. They’re saying the future could include that kind of body shape for racing and branding.

Concept

brand identity for each series

"That's three very different bodies that are relevant to our OEMs today to create that brand identity for each series. It's my belief that absolutely the electric car and that body style and all that is something that NASCAR is looking at as a possibility for the future of the Orale series."

“Brand identity” here refers to how different vehicle body styles are used to distinguish series or product lines for manufacturers and racing. The segment frames truck, CUV, and “cup” as three distinct body types that help OEMs create recognizable identities across categories.

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Orale series

"It's my belief that absolutely the electric car and that body style and all that is something that NASCAR is looking at as a possibility for the future of the Orale series. I would say that the Orale series has got a lot of good things going right now."

They’re talking about a racing series called the Orale series and whether it could change what the cars look like in the future. The big point is that racing may start using body styles that match what people drive every day.

Concept

parts and pieces

"There is an issue in terms of parts and pieces. The parts and pieces that we use aren't manufactured."

They mean the race car parts aren’t available or made quickly enough. If the parts can’t keep up with how many cars the series needs, it becomes a problem for everyone.

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O'Reilly car

"What I would love for them to do, and this is a big conversation to have, but what I would love for them to do with the O'Reilly car is take that nine inch forward rear end out of the car that we're running..."

They’re referring to the race car associated with O’Reilly sponsorship. Think of it as “the team’s car” in that branded program.

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nine inch forward rear end

"...what I would love for them to do with the O'Reilly car is take that nine inch forward rear end out of the car that we're running and make me a modern version of that."

They’re talking about the rear axle/rear-end setup. The goal is to replace the current rear-end with a newer version that’s easier to support and better suited to modern racing.

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front suspension

"Take all the front suspension off of our car and make me a more modern version of that."

The front suspension is what holds the front wheels to the car and helps the tires stay planted. They want an updated setup to improve how the car drives.

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overengineered hub or rear end

"Not an overengineered hub or rear end like we got in the current cup car."

They’re saying the current parts might be too complicated. In racing, complicated parts can break more easily and are harder to maintain.

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current cup car

"Not an overengineered hub or rear end like we got in the current cup car."

They’re comparing what they have now to what they want to change. “Cup car” here means the current top-level stock car setup.

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bolt on front and rear clip

"I don't want the bolt on front and rear clip. I don't want none of that."

“Bolt on” means the front and rear body sections can be removed and replaced using bolts. That’s important in racing because it can make repairs faster and cheaper between events.

Brand

O'Reilly series

"I want, if you want to do anything to the O'Reilly series, take the parts that are in short supply..."

“O’Reilly series” is the name of a NASCAR series that’s sponsored by O’Reilly Auto Parts. It’s basically how fans know which racing series they’re talking about.

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parts in short supply

"I want, if you want to do anything to the O'Reilly series, take the parts that are in short supply and let's figure out how to make a newer modern take on that specific part... There's not enough demand... to be able to continue to make a lot of the parts and things are just getting tougher and tougher to get."

They’re saying some race parts are hard to get right now. When not many people need a part, companies stop making it, so teams have to find a new way to keep using the car.

Term

ball joints

"...where it's ball joints, different things like that, that are when our cup teams moved away from this technology."

Ball joints are small pivot joints in the suspension that help the wheels move up/down and turn. They wear out and need replacement, and in racing you also care about getting them reliably.

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keep the series going the way it's going

"And so I would just think about how we take what's working. This is working. This series is working the way it is... keep this thing going the way it's going."

They’re basically saying, “If it’s working, don’t mess with it too much.” In racing, big changes can make cars harder to build/repair and can also create shortages of parts.

Concept

ATTR cardiac amyloidosis (ATTR-CM)

"You may have heard about a series but rare heart condition called ATTR cardiac amyloidosis [648.3s] They've been thinking about it, but let's put this out there and... [651.9s] Man, I don't know, man. [654.7s] There's some conversations that the series has to have with itself, the owners, the NASCAR, [664.1s] all the executives and so forth. [665.8s] And I honestly feel like that those conversations are long overdue and we need to be having them today. [670.2s] Because I don't think the series owners are as excited about that idea as he may be. [679.3s] You may have heard about a series but rare heart condition called ATTR cardiac amyloidosis"

This is a heart problem caused by a sticky protein building up in the heart. Because it can look like other heart issues, it can take a while to figure out what’s going on. The point is to know about it and talk to a doctor if symptoms fit.

Company

BridgeBio

"If you have ATTR-CM, talk to your cardiologist about a truby or visit atruby.com. [730.7s] That's ATTR-UBY.COM to learn more. [734.9s] Brought to you by BridgeBio. [737.0s] Kubota Orange Days is here, which means so are the best deals of the year on compact tractors."

BridgeBio is the sponsor behind the medical advertisement in this part of the episode. Sponsors pay for these messages, so it’s useful to know who’s behind them. It doesn’t relate to cars directly.

Brand

Kubota

"[734.9s] Brought to you by BridgeBio. [737.0s] Kubota Orange Days is here, which means so are the best deals of the year on compact tractors. [742.1s] So race on over to your local Kubota dealer to shop a wide selection of equipment including [746.3s] the number one selling compact tractor in the U.S. [749.5s] It's time to start turning your dream projects into reality with these great offers."

Kubota is a company that makes tractors and other outdoor equipment. The hosts mention a sale event called “Kubota Orange Days” with discounts on compact tractors. It’s basically an ad for buying equipment.

Term

Gold and Silver Aftermarket Parts

"...including GMOE or Gold and Silver Aftermarket Parts."

They’re talking about different “levels” of replacement parts sold after the car is built. Higher tiers are usually meant to be closer to original quality, while lower tiers cost less.

Term

GMOE

"...including GMOE or Gold and Silver Aftermarket Parts."

GMOE is a label for a GM-focused parts tier that’s meant to be closer to the original parts. It’s being compared to other aftermarket tiers in the ad.

Brand

Chevy

"How does it feel to be like the second best Chevy team?"

Chevy is the common name for Chevrolet, a GM brand. The hosts use it in a racing/team context (“second best Chevy team”), which ties the conversation back to GM-affiliated motorsports.

Topic

Sundays

"It's trying to make sure we make those right adjustments for Sundays, where we struggled up until the break and I think we're getting a little bit better the last two weeks."

Races usually happen on Sundays in NASCAR. Teams spend the week making changes so the car is set up correctly for race day.

Brand

Hendrick

"I mean, it's certainly it's wild that there's such a disparity in like in the manufacturers like, you know, when I look at Hendrick and obviously they are the flagship Chevy team,"

Hendrick Motorsports is one of the biggest NASCAR teams. The hosts are saying Hendrick seems to use Chevrolet’s info better than some other teams.

Brand

Chevrolet

"but then like the other teams that get the same information from Chevrolet, the same is like way off like last."

Chevrolet is the car brand involved in NASCAR. Teams get technical guidance from the manufacturer, but how well they apply it can make a big difference in performance.

Topic

Kansas

"We know we're not going to go contend for a win at Kansas. So what is. All right, I'm a tough. I'm like, you know, I'm a competitor through and through, right?"

Kansas is a specific NASCAR race track. Teams have to set up the car differently for each track, and the hosts are talking about what kind of results they can realistically aim for there.

Concept

practice

"We go on the racetrack after practice. We're like, all right, let's change our mindset, right? ... But, you know, Bristol, after Saturday's practice, I felt like, man, we got a top 10 car."

Practice is when teams test and fine-tune the car before the race. They use what they learn to decide what to change and what to expect on race day.

Term

qualified 16th

"And so for us this weekend at Kansas Saturday, pretty good, qualified 16th."

“Qualified 16th” means they earned the 16th spot to start the race. Where you start can make it easier or harder to move up, depending on traffic and track position.

Term

top 20 all day

"I was like, man, if we could run in the top 20 all day, I'd be pumped. We ran in the top 22 all day."

They wanted to stay near the front—top 20—for most of the race. It’s about being consistently fast, not just doing well for one moment.

Topic

Bristol

"But, you know, Bristol, after Saturday's practice, I felt like, man, we got a top 10 car, so I felt like we fell short at Bristol a little bit because we ended up 17th."

They mention Bristol, another race track with its own unique feel. The point is that after practice, they thought they had a strong car, but the race result didn’t match that expectation.

Term

top 10 car

"But, you know, Bristol, after Saturday's practice, I felt like, man, we got a top 10 car, so I felt like we fell short at Bristol a little bit because we ended up 17th."

A “top 10 car” means the team believes the car is fast enough to run near the front and finish around the top 10. It’s a prediction based on how the car felt during practice.

Topic

Daytona, Talladega

"And that's Daytona, Talladega and both Atlantis. So, you know, we make sure we try and go win those."

Daytona and Talladega are famous big-speed race tracks. Because the cars run together closely at high speed, strategy matters a lot.

Topic

stage points

"And if you notice at the 500, I didn't try and get stage points, you know, because for us, it's like, are those five, 10 points going to matter?"

In NASCAR, races are split into sections called stages. Finishing well in a stage earns extra points, but some drivers focus more on winning the whole race than collecting those extra points.

Topic

Super Speedway

"Most of the most successful years I had on Super Speedway was that I cared nothing about stage points."

They’re talking about the big, high-speed oval races. On these tracks, cars often run in tight groups, so the racing strategy can be different than on smaller tracks.

Topic

big 36 car pile up

"Yeah, I was leading and got hit in the door. I did get a live DBZ question... Mike Ford just texts me..."

A “pileup” is when a bunch of cars crash into each other and get stuck together. On fast oval tracks, one hit can quickly snowball into a huge wreck.

Topic

battle at the beach

"Oh, man, battle at the beach... If you don't know what that was, that was the race on the back stretch of Daytona with Kane and cars... So the battle of the beach was a short track race that they did on the back stretch."

“Battle at the Beach” is the name of a particular race event. They’re saying it happened on Daytona’s back stretch and it was a shorter-track style race.

Term

bucket

"I think the, the, one of the springs wasn't sitting in the bucket. So the thing just never turned just full rear break, but it was literally a,"

A “bucket” here is basically the place where the spring sits in the suspension. If the spring isn’t in the right spot, the suspension won’t work correctly.

Term

springs

"You know, I think the, the, one of the springs wasn't sitting in the bucket. So the thing just never turned just full rear break, but it was literally a,"

Springs are what help the suspension move smoothly over bumps and while turning. If one spring isn’t installed right, the car can feel wrong or not work the way it should.

Concept

impound

"So then I walked back to the impound and there was another driver standing at my car. There were seat molds on my roof and I had no idea what was going on."

After certain parts of a race weekend, your car can be taken to an official holding area called impound. It helps keep the car from being changed or messed with before the next step.

Term

seat molds

"There were seat molds on my roof and I had no idea what was going on. And I don't think, I don't know if it was my dad or my friend."

Seat molds are custom padding/fit pieces that help the driver sit in the same spot every time. That makes it easier to control the car and feel more secure during hard turns.

Concept

qualify for the race

"It was a, you know, another driver that was in a good car and didn't qualify for the race. And, you know, I don't know if they were obligated to run every week, but yeah,"

Qualifying is the process that decides who gets to start the race and in what position. If a driver or car doesn’t qualify, the team may have to put someone else in the car.

Term

race day story

"And you can make your race day story even more epic with FanDuel. FanDuel, America's number one sports book is giving all new customers a shot at $200 in bonus bets."

A “race day story” is basically what happens around the race weekend, not just what happens on the track. It can include things like who ends up driving and why.

Concept

monotonous and repetitive

"Yeah, well, well, I would say because it was just so, it was so monotonous and so repetitive and when you're an amateur, obviously you're not making money."

Racing can get mentally exhausting because you do the same kind of work over and over—practice laps and trying to improve—without seeing results right away.

Term

moke

"And we have rented what they call a moke or a mokey. It's, it's basically like a glorified golf cart. And so we're taking this thing back and forth on these rough roads down to the little town center, and it was a rough ride."

A “Moke” is a tiny, basic vehicle—kind of like a golf cart—that you can drive around town. It’s usually open-air and simple, so on rough roads it can feel bumpy.

Concept

emergency contacts / "code red" alerts

"Listen, the thing was completely annihilated and it was sending out code red alerts to all of his emergency contacts. Like he has been in a crash."

Some phones can detect a serious crash and automatically send alerts to people you’ve set as emergency contacts. That’s what they mean by “code red” alerts.

Concept

rough roads

"So the phone just flew, you know, we're bouncing on these little rough old roads. Yeah."

Rough roads are bumpy and uneven. The bumps and shaking can make things in your pockets or on seats move around or fall out.

Concept

crash detection / automatic alerting

"Well, it, it's so smart cause either when it hit the ground or when a car ran over it, um, it sends an alert to, to, to my two emergency contacts... And here's the location of the accident."

They’re talking about a system that can tell when there’s been a crash and then automatically sends a message. It can also include where the crash happened so people can respond faster.

Term

location of the accident

"And here's the, here's the location of the accident. And so Kelly texts Joey, the pilot..."

The message doesn’t just say “something happened”—it also tells where it happened. That makes it much easier for others to find you or send help.

Term

Garmin watch

"And I've got my Garmin watch on. And anytime I get near my phone with the Garmin watch, I'm going to get the text messages and all the alerts, right?"

Garmin makes smartwatches. Here, the watch is paired with a phone so it can alert you when you’re near it.

Term

track his phone

"And he finally takes my phone so that he can track his phone. Yeah."

Tracking a phone means using location services to see where it is. Sometimes it only shows a broad area instead of an exact spot.

Term

location sharing

"So we, I'm not sharing my location with Amy, which I didn't realize that we always have."

Location sharing is when your phone lets someone else see where you are. If it’s turned off, tracking and “find my phone” style features may only show a rough area.

Concept

GPS location / Find My-style tracking

"I can't take my iPad with me to locate the phone. So I get Tim Duggar, our buddy, to take a picture of the iPad screen and me and him drove down the street and right where it said it was is the phone land in the street going, bing, ding, ding..."

This is the “find my phone” kind of tech. It shows where your phone was last seen using location signals, so you can drive to that spot and look for it.

Concept

Last known location vs. real-time location

"I can't take my iPad with me to locate the phone... me and him drove down the street and right where it said it was is the phone land in the street... Certainly other cars hit it and it was still good enough, right?"

Location apps often show where the device was last seen. That’s still useful for finding it, but it might not update perfectly if the phone is broken or out of signal.

Concept

Emergency contacts alerts after a device issue

"How, and how cool is that technology that it sent out to my emergency contacts that there was an issue and that it was destroyed by how many..."

The phone can automatically message your emergency contacts if it detects a problem. So even if you can’t use the phone normally, it may still be able to send an alert.

Concept

lost phone

"somebody losing their phone... So I lost mine because it bounced out of my pocket... We're going to find this phone."

They’re talking about what happens when you lose your phone and how they try to find it again. The key idea is retracing where it could have been dropped.

Concept

map pins

"holding this picture that with the map pins, not moving, right? Like he's just looking at a photo and Dale's driving down the road..."

Map pins are little location markers on a phone map. They help point you to an exact spot, like where the phone might be.

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