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As we head up to Derbyshire, who will be king of the castle, Donnington, and who will be
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This is the Donnington Park GP preview.
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Lots to get right there.
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You've spat that out, eventually.
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Hello, and welcome back.
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We are British Touring Club, Holocaust, and we are going to bring you up to date with all
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the news that's been happening in the run-up to Donnington Park.
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Three weekends left to go in the championship, and it's getting close, isn't it?
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It's certainly a top two have pulled away, and Ingram made the most of the knock-ill
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weekend to put out a little bit of a lead over Ash Sutton.
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Yeah, Ingram has sort of gone over the brow of the hill, it almost feels, the way
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they've sort of matched each other all season.
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It does feel like it's going to be difficult for Sutton to close the gap from here, but
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strange things have happened in the touring cars, and obviously this weekend we're off
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to the full Donnington Park circuit, which has got the GP loop with the tight hairpin,
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so that always brings up a few bits and bobs.
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Which one do you prefer out of two?
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I prefer the non-GP one, only because I'm yet to...
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I don't think I'm yet to see any real action.
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I remember there's one year that Robot must cause absolute carnage by having bits falling
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off his car left, right and centre.
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I would say that I think that the longer route gives a little bit more drama, but
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I think the shorter route gives better racing overall.
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I think that there's a difference between drama and good racing, and I think that
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arguably, yes, the longer route is more exciting because it's the drama.
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But in terms of great racing, I think it's probably a little bit better round the
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I'm presuming you're getting the idea of a big loop here.
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Yeah, I quite prefer the big loop.
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You've got, obviously, chicane goes the other way, and then you've got a big
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overtaking zone into that hairpin, and then you've got another hairpin coming
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back onto the pit straight, which I just think promotes more overtaking.
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Can I be really controversial?
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I prefer that we started at this one and went...
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I'll tell you for why, because we've had it the last couple of years there.
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One of the title contenders has had a big biff.
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Last year it was England, got biffed off of that part.
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I know you might say, oh, it's just both part of racing.
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But it's such a clinch and crunch zone that I do think that because of that,
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it'd be better to have it at the start of the season.
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There's plenty of time to make it up, rather than it coming in the middle
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of a championship battle, because it does feel that the further we go
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through the calendar, the more soft the tracks get.
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So Silverstone hasn't really got any excitement at all.
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Brandshouse GP, you can't have a take on half the circuit because
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it's too tight and out in the trees and stuff.
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It does kind of feel that, and then you've got this in the middle
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of it of, oh, I'm supposed to not kill, which is the law to itself.
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But yeah, I don't know.
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I kind of feel it might be slightly better just to rotate the two.
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Let us know your thoughts down in the comments of which layout
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at Donington is your favourite.
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One team that won't be contesting a favourite this weekend.
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Well, I don't know, mate.
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After seven years, I've got this down to a T.
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Yeah, one motor sport have today announced kindly before our podcast,
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which is nice, that they're not contesting the rest of the season
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for a multitude of reasons, including the ongoing health concerns
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of team owner Steve Doddman.
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So obviously we wish him best and hope he gets well soon.
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And they are focusing on getting back for the 2026 season.
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This, of course, means that Cook will not be back on the grid
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in a one motor sport car.
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Who knows what might happen between now and the end of the season.
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There's quite a few rooms going around on that score.
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And it also presumed it means it won't see jelly back in any form
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given that the team he had gone to have given his car back to
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have given his car to PMR.
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Obviously, it's really difficult to comment on because it does
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the center of it as a person's health as part of it.
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It does feel strange that that is such a big reason in some ways.
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But it's hard to you can't criticise it because of the circumstances.
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But it does feel a little bit strange that that is such a big factor
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in not coming back onto the grid.
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But yeah, to me, it certainly feels like there's much more going on
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behind the scenes as to why they aren't able to get the whole race
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team together for the weekend.
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And we've seen lots of other championships and motor sports
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be able to continue when a crucial figure is not there for a weekend.
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We've seen race weekends without Toto there for Mercedes.
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And they've been able to carry on. Exactly.
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So it does feel like there's something more underlying there.
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Obviously, we send that absolute best wishes to him.
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And we really do hope that they're going to be back on the grid
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for 2026 because the grid feels like it's contracting and getting much smaller.
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It does. It feels that the the independent end of the grid is falling out
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because really, you've got the Hyundai Ford Megatron at the front
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and BMW got four cars as well, let's not forget.
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And the only real strong independent this team this year has been restart
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across both drivers and then a factory fed by a three team.
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And obviously, PMR have been fighting their own for a long time
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with one arm ties behind their back for multiple reasons.
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Obviously, that's got a lot harder and then unlimited there and doing the best.
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But they're not on the pace of the top runners.
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And I'll say you're right.
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It does feel like the championship is shrinking a little bit
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and we're losing a bit of competitive edge.
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So hopefully a bit of a reset, a bit of a sort of get things back in order
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for next season and we can hopefully see one motor sport return
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and be a little bit more competitive because it's also true to say
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they've not been the greatest season themselves.
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No, they've certainly been off the pace.
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And I don't know whether that has been a contributing factor,
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thinking that they're not quite there
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and they need maybe some more development time over this off period.
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There's also question marks over whether they will continue to run
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the civic going forward into next season.
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Obviously, there is going to be regulation changes going forward as well.
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And it'll be the oldest car in the grid now, obviously,
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with the demise of the PMR Astros as previously discussed.
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I think that's pretty much it on the news point of view.
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I mean, obviously, there's been quite a few
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rumors about what cars won't be used next season.
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We've got a long off season to debate that.
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So we won't go into that too much here.
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Instead, we'll go into the weekend itself.
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So I say Donnington Park GP, David in 1986.
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This loop went away from the counter for a long time,
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but it has been on on the counter in the past 2.49 miles.
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So again, with the longer circuits that we go to,
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not surprising with the additional part of the circuit and 12 corners.
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And as usual, listeners will know here we play.
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Sam has not done his prep and for new time listeners,
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they may well be some.
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This is where Sam, who always has lots and lots and lots of prep
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coming into these preview recordings,
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is going to tell me straight away who has the qualifying that record.
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Would you like to know or would you like to tell me what year?
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I just got me from like the dominating year.
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Twenty twenty three. Yes, correct.
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Would you like to have a stab at the guests for the time?
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No, because I got this radically wrong last year,
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thinking it was the shorter lay out time.
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So no, I'm not even going to guess that.
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If I told you it was in the one minute thirties,
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would you then hazard a guess if I was to give you an actual?
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Thirty two thirty three two.
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So you're not a million miles off and then race that record.
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I'll go for ingram things.
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They're the two drivers that are up and beyond everyone else.
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Yeah, which I guess what year and what time?
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Twenty three twenty four. OK.
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And race times are normally a little bit slower.
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So in the thirty three still, but low thirty high thirty three.
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Yeah, this is a much smaller gap than I was at thirty three nine.
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So it's only seven tenths, which I know sounds a lot.
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But actually, when you compare from the other previews we do,
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that's quite a short distance between the two.
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I think that would have probably been his race three last year,
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where he came from the back of the grid to second.
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It was just thrashed through the through the field.
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I think in a brand new engine fitted as well,
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because he had a rock go through.
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Yes, you remember rightly.
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They're very through the radiator.
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I think he won your award last year for driver of the season.
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Yeah, if I'm back in the grid to second.
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Yeah, I'm arguing about it.
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Last year, Josh Cook took pole,
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which he won't obviously won't be doing this weekend.
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Although interestingly, it was in a Toyota last year.
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So yeah, the Toyota was a completely different place.
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I think it's fair to say it last year, though.
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But maybe maybe there's a circuit
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that might suit the Toyota a little bit more this weekend.
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I mean, I don't think it is, but you've got to give a little bit of.
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Yeah, you've got to give some.
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Optimism, yeah, yeah.
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And then race one was one by Colin Turkton from Sutton from Hill.
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Race two was one by Sutton from Turkton from Hill.
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And race three was one by Camish from Ingram
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from Aaron Taylor Smith.
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So it's certainly a track where I think you expect the far
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so I've done this, the fastest drivers to come through.
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IE is going to be a Sutton Ingram,
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you know, that level of driver that you expect to be near the front.
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In terms of there is roughly a top four.
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I'll go through the tables in a minute.
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We'll keep top four for the sake of interest.
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Ingram had a fifth, a retirement and a second.
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Sutton had a second, a first and a non contested or non classified.
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Camish had an eighth and 11th and a first.
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And Robotham had a 14th, a sixth and a 13th.
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So a little bit of a mix from Robotham that weekend.
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Poor run out from him.
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Yeah, I came into this weekend thinking
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this could be a Hyundai circuit and a Hyundai stronghold,
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especially with how they went at the start of the season here as well.
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And those big long straights obviously will play right into the hands
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of that Hyundai engine, which we know is super powerful
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and seems to outdrag anything else.
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And that combined with the boost system that they've got in place,
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I think we could see quite a few overtakes from them coming on the straights.
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So we'll quickly run through the tables
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and then we'll talk about what we might expect to see this weekend.
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So it is Ingram at the top of the driver standings on three to three
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Sutton on 306, so 13 points back.
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No, not 13 points back.
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17, 17 points back.
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Camish on 228 and I would argue out of the contention.
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Robotham on 214, Hill 197, Morgan 170, Chilton 169,
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Rainford 134, Proctor 116 and Smiley on 116.
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In the Jack Sears, we have De Leon leading that by a single point
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over Charles Rainford and Osborne back on 277.
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And then an independent standing, Smiley leads that on 290.
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Dobble, Dobble, sorry, on 277.
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Then Patterson on 235.
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And after that, we've only got two drivers left on the grid.
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So I don't think they'll be contesting it particularly hard from there.
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So obviously, the weekend, as you say, you expected Huyen Day to go well.
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I think it's getting really difficult to do this previous
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because every week it is, I think the Ford will go well.
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I think the Hyundai will go well and they very do.
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And that's the end of that, really, isn't it?
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Yeah, obviously, last time out, we saw how well the BMW win.
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But we know that the knock hill is a very BMW specific track
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and they go well out of the traction zones there.
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There are a couple more traction zones here than we used to,
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especially from the earlier on in the season, where their performance was dismal,
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like really dismal.
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Yeah, so for better, for my predictions.
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Yeah, I do think they've improved throughout the season as a team.
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And we obviously saw how much they improved going to brand earlier in the season.
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So I think they'll be on a slight high
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coming from knock hill, but I still don't see them
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really challenging for wins this weekend.
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No, I don't think for wins.
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But I think with the slight boost
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alteration they've had and the data that they've obviously found
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and in the setup of the car and stuff.
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The reason they've been so good here normally is you're right,
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it's a traction zone.
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Also, it's a power circuit.
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There's lots of straights, et cetera.
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And traditionally, BMW had a very strong engine in this year.
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I think it's gone that way, has it?
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I think the big struggle that they had at the start of the season
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and Jake Hill referenced this was the weight distribution of the car.
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And with the elevation changes that you've got at Donnington,
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you have to have a car that you've got 100 percent confidence in.
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And we've seen how Sutton can chuck the car in an old hairpin.
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And yes, it will be four wheel sliding, but he'll know where the grip is
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and he'll be able to hold on to it.
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Whereas I don't think Hill and the other BMW drivers at the start of the season
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had that confidence in the car.
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They may well show better this time around
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because they've had the majority of the season to get on top of it,
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understand it a little bit more and understand what the car is going to do.
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Yeah, that's quite possible. That is quite possible.
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It's difficult to say it is really difficult to preview these now
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because it is Sutton and it is Ingram.
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And if it's not them, it's Camish and it's Chilton
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and it's Robotman to a lesser degree, maybe Proctor.
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I was really surprised.
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Well, the Toyota is going to do this weekend, mate.
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Obviously, they took a poll here last season.
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Again, we don't think they're probably going to reach that height this year.
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But could we see Shed and Taylor Smith finishing inside the top 10?
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Obviously, two more less cars at this point of the season.
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We've got PMR, who are probably going to be a little less competitive
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because they're still learning that cupra from last week,
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last time out at Nock Hill and what flags mean.
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So could we see Toyota get some comfortable top 10 results?
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But we should be saying that regardless of the extraordinary factors
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you've just given them, you know, Shed and Aaron Taylor Smith, in particular,
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should be getting top 10 results on a fairly regular basis.
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You know, it's already at least challenging for
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on being right on the cusp of when you take into fact
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you've got four fours, four BMWs and four Hyundai's
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and then six Hyundai's effectively.
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But yeah, and that's been the problem.
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They've just not been on there.
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I mean, when you put that, when you spell out the grid like that,
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you can go, oh, that's what they're not going to get in the results.
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But actually, they've been nowhere near getting the results, I
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but that's that's been the problem.
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And every time they've had any sort of good running in the in the race,
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there's been a problem of that be reliability or a puncture or how many times
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we've seen, oh, there's Aaron Taylor Smith and he's falling through the field.
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I mean, how many times has that happened this season?
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Yeah, reliability has been a massive problem for them.
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We know that Aaron Taylor Smith goes well at Donnington traditionally.
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He certainly did really well when he was in the Astra that year.
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Got a podium last year.
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So it would be interesting to see if they can pick up anything
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in a race through a reverse grid and then hold on to something.
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But it's not really how we should be talking about Toyota as a team.
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No, look, people will say, well, I've got to win this year.
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And yeah, that's true.
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But you've got to put in the conditions of the of that race.
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And that's not to take anything away from what she did.
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He drove a very good race conditions of that race.
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Yeah, exactly. That's what I meant.
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Yeah, you know, it was a wet race where these sort of results are checked up.
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You know, you see it in other motorsports, particularly F1, wet
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Monza and suddenly you've got a really random race stroll on the podium.
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Danny Ricciardo, who'd forgotten how to drive was able to take a win.
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You know, it's yeah, these things happen in the rain.
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I think the best Toyota can hope for this weekend is maybe a top six in the reverse grid.
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I just don't see where and they have got better.
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There's no doubt about it.
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But they're just the problem is once you start a season behind,
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everyone else is improving as the season goes on.
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So you're always playing catch up.
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I personally think that restart are going to do a lot better this time out.
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I know they were your surprise bad for last time out at Nock Hill.
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I think Smiley really likes Donnington as well here traditionally.
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And we know that high end power unit is going to be strong.
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So I think we could actually see a really good positive weekend
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like we saw at the start of the year for restart.
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Well, for half a restart, for half a restart.
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Never know, Dan Lloyd might gain some luck sometime soon.
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But yeah, I could quite easily see them
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maybe challenging for top six this weekend
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if they get set up and the tyre calls right this weekend.
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Yeah, and Lloyd very nearly had a win here in the Cooper broken toe link
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in the penultimate lap, I think it was, which is obviously a heartbreaker.
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Maybe we can see restart, get up the front of a reverse grid.
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Maybe the chance for them is there this weekend with the reduced
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grid if they can get passing into the top 12 for race two,
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which isn't beyond the realms of possibility and unlimited.
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Yeah, you're right.
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Sorry, it's not beyond the realms of possibility to see maybe get the
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Cooper at the front or maybe even doble could highlight that as a possibility
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for race three, get in the top 12 and pray for the big number.
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I mean, the Dan Lloyd troubles and tribulations just continue.
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I've seen he's now looking to raise funds to, as I understand it,
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basically fix the engine that blew up.
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Crowdfunding to pay for his engine.
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Yeah, which it's just it's it's a sorry place to be in.
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It's really unfortunate for him.
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And obviously, drivers at the start of the season, especially like him
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and an independent team have this wedge of budget to go, right?
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That's my my full back.
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That's what I've got to pay for.
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You don't necessarily expect to cook an engine or two in a season
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and then have that massive outlay.
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So that I can understand why he's had to go down that route.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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A driver of his quality that he's not just able to go.
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OK, sponsors have managed to stump this up and I can pay for it.
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Outright sort of thing.
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And most of you if you look across the garage and smile is not really
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any problems this year, he's not really been caught up in a massive instance.
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Also, I think of Dan Lloyds being or putting himself off or play
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or cook putting, multiplying what perspective you have of him at
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Alton Park, which obviously was a big rebuild on the car.
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You're probably damaged components of the engine.
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If not, if not the engine fully, it would have had an effect
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on the engine being rammed into a wall at that speed.
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And then you look across the garage and smile.
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He's had a fairly clean season or he's not really been involved.
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I think the worst he had as a puncture here or there, which is
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half the course and, you know, it's no one is catastrophic.
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So I think you might be right with Smiley.
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I think you should get some of the good results here.
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I can see a win not this weekend, though.
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I think Smiley gets a win for the end of the season,
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but I think it might be a race three at Brands Hatch
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when everything's decided or a race three, Silverstone, where
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where nothing else will happen.
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So whether this weekend to possibly play a part,
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it looks like we're going to have a wet qualifying on Saturday
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at time of recording on Tuesday, because we always do this.
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We go, so we wet this weekend, take your brolleys and then it's 40 degrees
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and everyone's taking their brolleys but using the shade.
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So yeah, he's looking like we're going to get a little bit of rain.
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We might even get some rain on Sunday.
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At the moment, there is none necessarily forecast,
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but there is a percentage chance that it could happen.
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It does look like it's going to be overcast and cloudy.
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But as we always say, take all your equipment.
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You never know what's going to happen.
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Donnington is an airfield and the wind at Donnington in particular.
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It's the wind is secondary to SNES and I think and how aggressive it is
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and how you can quite easily get yourself a little bit red in the face
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from windburn, etc.
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Haven't been to Thruxton yet, mate.
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We haven't been to Thruxton yet.
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No, we haven't been to Thruxton yet.
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Of the tracks we've been to.
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SNES is winning the wind, but then Donnington is a close second.
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In terms of timings for the weekend, the stuff that you need to be aware of
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is that during car race one, obviously, these are all subject to change
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depending on if there's any dramas in the support races, which I'll get to in a moment.
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Race one is at 1130.
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Race two is at quarter past two and race three, which is the final race of the day
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for all the package is like five to five.
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We have got some support this weekend.
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It's the usual three.
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It's F4s. It's Mini.
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It's Portugal. Great Britain.
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It's the better of the options, but we're still missing that massive.
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Junior or just or just another discipline and motorsport hold.
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But everything's fine.
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I don't have to say any of these sort of things.
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So we'll move on to our predictions then.
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Yeah, go on then because they're the crucial part.
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They are because it's got close.
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The championship is close in in every aspect on the track and off the track here.
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The one that everyone cares about more, I think, is it something to get his fifth?
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No, they want to know Sam going to retain his trade for last year.
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So yeah, it's currently leading.
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Yeah, only very slightly is 20 points to 19.
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18. Yeah, I'll take that extra point.
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It might be crucial at the end of the season.
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So, yeah, we've got all predictions for this weekend.
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Paul, race winners, Jack Sears winners and then general predictions as well.
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So you're posted to make I have gone for.
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Now, this kid is fast.
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He is in the top 10 of the championship, having raced not all rounds.
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I missed the first three.
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He's going to have obviously reduced boost.
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Sorry, increased boost compared.
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Yeah, he's going to have less boost reduction than people around him.
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That's yeah, that's why I'm putting it.
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And I think that the the call from his teammates or his team is going to be
21:09
you get as fast as possible and fire up the grid as possible
21:12
and then cause issues from there.
21:15
So I'm going for Proctor.
21:17
I'm going for Dan Kamish.
21:18
Now, there is a risk with this because Dan Kamish at Donnington,
21:22
it either goes one of two ways.
21:23
He either has a brilliant weekend or he's on fire.
21:27
I'm going for the first option
21:30
and hopefully he's going to take a poll.
21:32
And then I've also got him for a race win.
21:34
He is close in the Wingfoot Award of Ingram.
21:36
So yeah, I can't send you logic.
21:38
You've gone for Kamish for a race win.
21:39
OK, I've got Ingram.
21:41
I've been quite conservative with my race winners, to be honest with you,
21:43
because I need I can't afford to lose at this stage of the season.
21:46
I can't afford a gap to open.
21:48
So I've got to make sure that I'm playing the percentages to a degree.
21:51
So I've gone for Ingram for a race win.
21:54
Yeah, I just think he's the absolute form driver at the moment
21:57
and the combination of him, that car and this track.
22:00
I just think, yeah.
22:01
Yeah, I think so and also gets a race win
22:03
because I can see him going for Buster, one of the races.
22:05
He'll ever get a race win or end up looking up the wrong way
22:08
up the crane of curves.
22:09
I think I think it's getting to that point of the season.
22:11
Now, a certain is going to have to crank it up slightly
22:14
because he's simple facts.
22:15
The matter is there are nine races to go
22:17
and he's got to finish in front of Ingram.
22:19
In at least I would say six of those.
22:21
Yeah, to close the gap then keep the gap.
22:24
So yeah, unless we have one non finish
22:28
and that completely change everything and both ways as well.
22:32
But I think there comes a point in this championship
22:33
where certain is going to have to up the anti-slightly
22:36
in a way Ingram doesn't have to at the moment.
22:38
My final race winner and this made surprise you.
22:41
It has surprised me.
22:43
I've gone for Chris Smiley.
22:45
I think he likes this circuit.
22:47
And as I've already mentioned, I go as well here.
22:50
So I think he might just need a race three win.
22:52
I think he wins a race a season.
22:54
I just don't think it's here.
22:55
So I'm going for center proctor for a win as well.
22:58
I think it might be Ingram wins.
23:00
Wins race one proctor jobs to fourth,
23:03
maybe wins race two on the tire offset.
23:05
Maybe we'll see the only thing I would be careful about.
23:09
And that's why I'm slightly careful about
23:11
Camish and Proctor and having wins.
23:15
Is if they've got a teammate behind them,
23:17
they're going to have to yield at this stage of the season.
23:19
Yeah, they will have to.
23:20
But I don't in a race three.
23:22
You'd imagine Ingram will be a bit further back.
23:24
Would he get he could easily get through to second?
23:26
But I also think that even if he is in second,
23:31
I know what you're saying,
23:33
but it'd be absolutely the insert.
23:35
Horrible for proctors to have to give a race win.
23:37
Yeah, I'm not sure he necessarily would.
23:39
He wants to drive next season.
23:41
I'm not sure he necessarily would give a win.
23:42
Given a podium is one thing.
23:44
Give up a win is another.
23:45
There's certainly many beers owed at the moment.
23:48
Absolutely and virtue.
23:50
I agree with you there.
23:51
Jack Sears winner with agreed on the thing is that
23:54
every time we back somebody else,
23:55
the other person wins back to the on three weeks running.
23:58
And every time he's been brilliant until race three
24:01
and it's all four and a part.
24:01
So they are going to win it this weekend.
24:03
It's going bucks in this way.
24:04
And yeah, we've both gone for Charles Rainford this weekend.
24:08
We'll see how that one pans out.
24:10
Yep. And then we've got our general predictions.
24:13
We're getting more intricate with these, I would say.
24:15
We've got it. We can't use the same one twice.
24:18
We ideally try not to use each other some earlier in the season as well.
24:21
And there's there is only so many.
24:23
There's 90 predictions we have to do throughout the season.
24:25
Like there's a lot to try to do with the teams
24:29
gradually dwindling the number of cars down.
24:31
It does get tougher.
24:33
So I've gone for that every Hyundai, which is all six of them,
24:37
scores points twice or more.
24:39
So over the three over the three rounds,
24:41
all six will finish in the top 15 twice.
24:45
I have gone for the top three scoring virtue cars.
24:49
Virtue high and nice.
24:51
This is the top gear meme, isn't it?
24:53
So out school, the top three scoring nappers.
24:56
So in practice or theory, it will be Ingram, Chilton and Proctor.
25:01
Versus Camish, Sutton and Roy Bottom.
25:04
Yeah. But of course, Morgan or Osborne could be subbed in
25:06
if they were to support outscored the other ones.
25:09
Yes, I would suggest. Yeah, OK.
25:11
We'll have to work that one out with fastest laps and holes.
25:15
And all sorts and lead laps at the end of the weekend.
25:17
And we are going to have to get the abacus later out.
25:20
Yes. Sorry, I was more modern.
25:23
I can't do modern maths.
25:25
I've gone for at least one BMW podium.
25:27
I think they will be OK this weekend to score a podium
25:30
somewhere along the line.
25:34
Rainford's had good pay sources.
25:35
And De Leon has gone well at speed,
25:39
just if he can not be a bit silly that hopefully the grass
25:42
hasn't been cut so freshly for him this weekend.
25:44
I've also gone for a BMW prediction.
25:46
I've gone for Aiden Moffitt to outscore either
25:50
Daryl De Leon or Charles Rainford this weekend.
25:53
Traditionally throughout the season, he's been the lowest scoring BMW
25:57
I'm hoping coming off the high of not kill.
26:00
Yes, he didn't really.
26:01
I don't think he outscored the other two,
26:03
but he did do well in a very solid weekend.
26:07
And yeah, he'll ride on that wave.
26:09
And in fairness, he was barged up the way at one point as well.
26:12
Yeah, I've also gone for my final prediction.
26:14
Two of the top four missed the fast six.
26:17
So lots of numbers to contend of their four answers.
26:20
But effectively one of in sorry, two of Ingram,
26:22
Sutton, Robottom or Cowish will miss or more could be three
26:25
or could be all four before you start to get pedantic.
26:28
At least two of those will miss the fast six qualifying session.
26:33
OK, we'll see because they've been pretty consistent
26:36
for getting in there.
26:37
Although the boost situation is as it is,
26:39
I think it will be quite a powerful at Bonnington.
26:42
And of course, the rain, if it is raining on Saturday,
26:45
is the great leveler.
26:46
And it just takes a mistake.
26:48
Just takes a little wheel dipped a bit too much on the wet track
26:51
limits, maybe a little bit of kissing the painted curb.
26:54
And suddenly your laps in trouble.
26:56
And we saw Sutton at knock, he'll make a rare mistake,
26:58
but a mistake that cost him in qualifying.
27:01
My final one is going to be the two cars at restart.
27:04
Both Hyundai's there will outscore all four Toyota's
27:08
this weekend combined, which I know seems a bit optimistic,
27:13
but I've also seen how poor Toyota have been doing this season.
27:16
You are placing a lot of trust in Lloyd's engine,
27:18
perhaps more trust that he's placing in his engine.
27:22
And then for our general prediction,
27:23
we're going for running wide at the old hairpin.
27:25
This means that they must drop at least one wheel in the gravel.
27:31
I've got the job Monday of tossing those up.
27:33
So depending where we sit for the year,
27:35
we might be able to pick a few as well.
27:37
Yeah, yeah, I've gone for 11 and I've gone for nine.
27:42
I think that I don't think of it as many as you think.
27:45
Yeah, and it's got to be in the three races, qualifying
27:48
and practices do not count in that regard.
27:51
Cool. I think that is pretty much it,
27:53
apart from saying that we are going this weekend.
27:55
So as ever, if you see us, where are we?
27:59
But if you do see it as ever, if you want to come and say hi
28:01
and have a chat by all means, pop it over and and do so.
28:06
Yeah, we'll say long says get the car part.
28:08
That's my biggest fear of the weekend.
28:10
I've got a new we've worked out a system for Donnington.
28:13
I have got a new pack of cards as well.
28:14
I will bring them in case they might be able to record the podcast in that time.
28:17
We might be able to.
28:18
And I've also been following somebody on Instagram
28:20
who does games you can play with a notebook and pen.
28:23
So again, just because I've that two hours has left you lead a thrilling life.
28:28
I do that two hours has absolutely scarred me
28:31
from that time to get to know your thoughts and feelings
28:35
on what may happen this weekend,
28:36
who is going to possibly take home the title at the end of the season
28:40
and what mystery may be thrown up?
28:44
Yes, I was just thinking that I'm also going to be able to miss
28:48
Arsenal tearing Canata apart, which is quite nice to me as well, to be fair.
28:53
So yes, no, absolutely.
28:55
If you're going this weekend, be safe, be sensible
28:57
and we'll see you on the review.
29:00
Yeah, see you soon. Cheerio.