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DwD 0753:  All About the Dreaded Flat Spots

DwD 0753: All About the Dreaded Flat Spots

Garage Heroes In Training Mar 24, 2026 20 min
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Brake lockup and tire “flat spots” take center stage, with the hosts breaking down how sliding tires grind a square patch into a round tread, then make future lockups easier. They cover what to do (and not do) once it happens, including rotating the tire to the least-loaded corner instead of writing it off, and why ABS is the easiest prevention. Real-world stories include learning with different brake pads, spotting lockup via mirror smoke, and balancing front/rear braking compounds. The discussion also detours into pad availability and who to ask for current recommendations.

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flat spots

"perhaps even more deeper. The topic that we have is flat spots, specifically flat spots on tires, as a generic, how do they get there, what they are, what to do about them, what to not do about them,"

A flat spot is when part of your tire gets worn down into a flat-looking patch. It usually happens when you brake so hard that the tire stops spinning and starts sliding.

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performance-wise and price-wise

"how they mess you up both performance-wise and price-wise, things like that. So, well, you know, as the premier motorsports podcast, not just in the nation but probably in the world, this is something we should talk about, don't you think?"

Flat spots can make the tire grip and brake less smoothly, because the tire surface isn’t even anymore. That can also mean you’ll wear the tire out sooner, so it costs more to replace.

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locked up brakes

"So, the flat spotting a tire happens when you have locked up your brakes and that tire stops spinning. When your brakes are on, when your brakes are in the fully on position or braking hard, your tires should still be rotating."

Locked-up brakes mean the brakes are applied so strongly that a wheel stops turning. When that happens, the tire skids instead of rolling, which can damage it.

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tire sliding scrubs tread

"But if you stop that wheel with too much brake pressure, all of a sudden the wheel... it's just going to slide along, which doesn't really slow you down and it destroys the tire. So, what happens when you lock up that wheel and make it stop instead of slowly rolling to a stop is that you just slide the tire along and the tire stays in one position."

If the wheel locks, the tire can’t roll anymore. It drags across the road in one spot, which wears the tread down quickly and can ruin the tire.

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wheel lock up

"...next time you go try to use your brakes in a normal way. They'll lock up even easier because once you've made that flat spot..."

Wheel lockup is when your tire stops spinning and starts skidding. Skidding reduces grip and can quickly damage the tire.

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ABS

"Well, that's the premier voice in this sport. I think the best way to avoid it is to race or try a car that has ABS. Yes. Boom. There you go. That's your easiest way to avoid it because the car with ABS or anti-lock braking system is going to keep that tire from locking up."

ABS is a safety system that helps stop your wheels from locking up when you brake hard. It keeps the tires rolling so you can steer instead of sliding.

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brake pedal pressure

"...it's going to think kind of mechanically and then electronically patent your pedal to slow it down rather than letting you just hold the same amount of pressure down. So, it's going to interrupt your brake pedal pressure to make you not lock your tire up."

Brake pedal pressure is how hard you’re pushing the brake. ABS can automatically change that pressure so the wheels don’t lock.

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trial and error

"The other way is just kind of trial and error like, oops, was that too much brake pressure? Yes, it was. And now I've ruined the tire."

In track driving, “trial and error” describes learning the right brake pressure and technique through repeated attempts. The segment ties this to avoiding flat spots by dialing in braking force before you ruin tires.

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lock the tires up

"So, sometimes it's a part of the learning process to over exceed your braking grip and lock the tires up."

Locking the tires up means the wheels stop spinning and start sliding. That’s bad because it can ruin the tire and make the car harder to control.

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stall

"And the same thing with the clutch, the car starts to stall. Don't keep coming off the clutch."

A stall is when the engine dies. In a manual car, it usually happens if you release the clutch too quickly.

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unevenly front to back side to side

"if the car is loaded unevenly front to back side to side, you can actually lock one tire, not just two tires, not by the axle, but a corner."

They’re talking about how weight can be different on each tire. If one corner gets more load, it can lose grip and lock sooner than the others.

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flat spotted

"So now that I've flat spotted the tire, can the Premier Motorsports podcast in the universe tell me what to do with that tire?"

A flat spot is when a tire gets dragged while locked up, making part of the tread go flat. It can make the car shake and feel worse to drive until the tire is dealt with.

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most loaded tire

"I was thinking more along the lines of you flat spotted the tire. Say you're at a track where most of the turns are right turns... What's the tire that's most loaded up?"

The “most loaded tire” is the tire that’s carrying the most weight. The more weight a tire has, the more it tends to be the one that grips or locks first.

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right hand predominantly turning track

"Which tires most loaded up on a right hand predominantly turning track? I'll give you four choices. Front left, front right."

They’re talking about a track that mostly turns to the right. Turning right shifts weight to certain tires, so those tires are more likely to be the ones that get overloaded and lock.

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braking moment

"...for us to say you've gone through in the turn one of this track, and that's the biggest breaking moment of the whole track."

They mean the hardest braking part of the track. That’s when the tires are under the most stress and are most likely to lock up. If a tire is damaged, it shows up most during this phase.

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left front tire

"...You just roasted that left front tire trying to give it that right hand turn. You come in, you come in."

They’re calling out the left front tire as the one that gets hit hardest. During hard braking and turning, the front tires do a lot of the work, especially the outside one. If that tire is damaged, the car can feel worse right away.

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least loaded corner

"...try to figure out what's the least loaded corner at this track. So if the left front is the most..."

They’re talking about which tire position gets the least work during that part of the track. If you can’t replace a damaged tire, you try to put it where it won’t matter as much. That helps the car stay more stable and predictable.

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tire rotation / swapping positions

"...we'll take that tire that got roasted and try to figure out what's the least loaded corner at this track... So the most optimal tire now is at the left front..."

They’re talking about moving the damaged tire to a different spot on the car. The goal is to put it where it will be less important. It’s a practical fix for race weekends when you can’t replace everything.

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front wheel drive

"...I followed many of little cars and especially that are front end, front wheel drive and their back, their back right wheel is usually not touching the ground."

Front wheel drive means the front wheels do the steering and the pushing. Because of how the car behaves, certain tires—especially on the opposite side—may get less load in a turn. That’s why the speaker thinks a damaged tire might be survivable in a specific corner.

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flat spotting

"We forgot to cover one of the most important things about flat spotting your tires. Yes. And that is if you were out of track and you flat spot your tires."

Flat spotting means your tire got stuck in one spot while it was still rolling or under braking, so part of the tread gets flattened. It can make the car shake and feel worse to drive until it’s fixed.

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dyno

"What about your dyno budget? You know those guys go to the dyno all the time? Really? Yeah. That's why they kept blowing motors up for the first few years that you knew that you and I both knew them pretty much."

A dyno is a machine that tests your car’s engine while it’s strapped down. It helps people tune the car and see how much power it’s making.

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blowing motors up

"That's why they kept blowing motors up for the first few years that you knew that you and I both knew them pretty much. You know what comes to mind? Because they would go take it to the dyno."

“Blowing motors up” means the engine fails badly, sometimes from running too hot or being tuned wrong. It’s a serious problem that can destroy the engine.

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lathes

"...people were using lathes to cut down a lot of material off the tire to make it a less rotating mass."

A lathe is a machine that can cut and shape material very precisely. Some people have used it on tires to change the tire’s shape, but it’s not a normal way to repair a flat-spotted tire.

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white smoke

"...if I've been locking up the brakes in a car is you can glance out the mirrors and you see tons of white smoke come off the back of your vehicle."

White smoke can mean the tires are sliding and getting hot. If you see it while braking, you’re likely locking the wheels and damaging the tires.

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pumping these brakes

"Oh, I'm locking the tires. I mean, I just start pumping these brakes a little bit and get out of the fact that I'm"

If you don’t have ABS, you can brake in a “pulse” instead of holding the pedal fully down. That helps keep the wheels from locking and sliding.

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brake pad compounds

"It's pretty common to try to balance out your braking compounds, your brake pad compounds."

Brake pads are made from different friction materials. Some work better when they’re hot, and some work better when they’re cooler—so matching them to the car helps braking feel consistent.

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Carbotech XP10s

"The old deal tricking me out is used to be everybody used to run carbotech brakes. And you would run carbotech XP10s on the front..."

Carbotech XP10s are a type of track brake pad. They’re used on the front in a setup where the front and rear pads are intentionally different to balance braking.

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Carbotech XP8s

"...and XP8s on the back, just a little bit less friction in the back."

Carbotech XP8s are another track brake pad type. In the example, they use XP8s on the rear so the braking balance is more even than if the front and rear pads were identical.

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Porterfield R4Es

"...Porterfield R4Es were less. And it just turns out, so we got those and turned out they wore exactly evenly with the fronts..."

Porterfield R4Es are a specific brake pad product. In this story, they picked them because they matched the front pads well and wore evenly.

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Chad Morehead

"But it's also a guy who's constantly out there testing and racing is Chad Morehead. Yep. So if you're dicking around like, oh, shit, what path is going to get next? Ask Chad Morehead. Morehead Speedworks."

Chad Morehead is a person the hosts trust for racing brake advice. They say he tests and races a lot, so his recommendations are based on what works on track.

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Morehead Speedworks

"Ask Chad Morehead. Morehead Speedworks. That dude knows everything. I would recommend you buy stuff from him, too."

Morehead Speedworks is Chad Morehead’s operation. The hosts are saying it’s a good place to get racing brake parts and advice because they’re actively involved in testing.

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