A tense, funny-but-anxious catch-up turns into a wide-ranging rant about how geopolitics, oil prices, and tariffs are reshaping everyday life—and car plans. Hosts swap fears about driving across states amid shifting gas costs and possible policy chaos, then pivot to automotive corporate absurdity: Infinity’s stagnant, gas-only lineup and talk of a 700-hp QX80 while EV timelines slip. They also cover Volkswagen pausing EV production, Ford’s aluminum-tariff pain, and why automakers are chasing short-term profits over long-term relevance.
Hello! On this episode (which was recorded on Sunday, 4/12), Victoria has a slight mental breakdown (no big deal) about the omnicrisis devouring us all. Nothing Ever Happens vs. Oh God It's So Over, the matchup you've all been waiting for! Next the girls discuss Infiniti's talk of a 700-horsepower QX80 juxtaposed against their current, uh, two-and-a-half car lineup. SUV lineup, really. Then we point and laugh at Volkswagen for pausing production of the ID.4. Then we point and laugh at Ford for begging the President to pause tariffs while he smirks and says "no".
SHOUTOUT: Thanks to Eve for enabling the really cool shoot with my friend Sula! Here's one of the shots she took of me with the F-100:
CALL TO ACTION: Here's the WA State Rail Plan along with the opening for public comment, and here's the Urbanist article that goes into great detail about what we can and should ask for, for the good of our region!! Please, if you want high speed rail (and importantly dedicated trackage for it!) in WA, make your voice heard before April 24th!
THANK YOU: To Nat for the incredible cover of Shapes Place, which we end the episode with!! This brought us a lot of joy, we really appreciate it! Also thank you to all of our $15 subscribers, thanks for your patience
"...I'd like to have like a relatively stable foundation if I'm gonna pick up the major expense of a car all the gas and car insurance, which I'm doing full coverage this time after having a bit last time by my car getting stolen"
Car insurance is what you pay so that if something bad happens—like an accident or theft—the insurance helps pay the bill. “Full coverage” usually means you’re covered for more than just basic liability.
Car insurance is the coverage you buy to protect against financial loss from accidents, theft, and other damage. Different coverage levels exist, and the right choice depends on the car’s value and your risk tolerance.
"...which I'm doing full coverage this time after having a bit last time by my car getting stolen"
Car theft is when someone steals your vehicle. If you have the right insurance coverage, it can help you recover financially after the theft.
Theft is a major risk that affects both insurance costs and how owners choose coverage. If a car is stolen, comprehensive coverage is often the part that helps pay for the loss (subject to deductibles and policy terms).
"...all the gas and car insurance, which I'm doing full coverage this time after having a bit last time by my car getting stolen"
“Full coverage” usually means your insurance covers more than just other people’s injuries. It often includes protection for your own car if it gets stolen or damaged.
“Full coverage” is an informal term that typically means you carry both liability coverage and physical damage coverage (often including comprehensive and collision). It’s commonly chosen when the car is financed/leased or when the owner wants protection against theft and damage.
"...on earth right now Because it turns out that the Omni crisis has consumed my my specific hobby Of the ..."
The Omni is a small car model from Dodge. It’s the kind of vehicle people might talk about because it’s older or connected to a specific interest. The podcast is using it as a joke or theme.
The Dodge Omni is a compact car model that’s often remembered as part of a specific era of small, practical vehicles. In the podcast, it’s brought up through a humorous “Omni crisis” framing, suggesting it’s tied to a niche hobby or obsession. That’s why it appears even if it isn’t the main topic of the episode.
"...then I have to drive through California where gas is currently $6 a gallon and in a month. It might be 10"
They mean the price you pay for gasoline at the pump. If it goes up a lot, driving anywhere costs more money.
They’re talking about gasoline prices, which directly affect the cost of driving long distances. When gas spikes, road trips and commuting become much more expensive, especially if you’re crossing multiple states.
"I would continue like flipping light switches and electricity would flow from like the dams built in the 1930s through the transmission lines that cut all the way across the Cascades
Directly to my home where I can get electricity"
These are the big power lines that carry electricity from power plants to homes and businesses. They’re how electricity gets from far away to where you live.
Transmission lines are the high-voltage power lines that move electricity from where it’s generated to where it’s used. In the U.S., long-distance transmission lets power flow across large geographic areas, including mountain ranges like the Cascades.
"that theoretically the company would like to build a 700 horsepower qx 80 Um, and this is kind of like yeah, but this is one of those things where it's like"
The QX80 is a large luxury SUV meant for comfortable rides and space. It’s the kind of vehicle people talk about when discussing big, powerful versions. The podcast is referencing a hypothetical high-performance take on it.
The Infiniti QX80 is a full-size luxury SUV positioned for comfort and strong power. In the podcast, it’s mentioned in a speculative way—talking about the idea of building a much higher-horsepower version. That makes it relevant when discussing how automakers imagine performance upgrades for flagship models.
"theoretically the company would like to build a 700 horsepower qx 80 Um, and this is kind of like yeah, but this is one of those things where it's like"
Horsepower is a number that tells you how powerful the engine is. Higher horsepower usually means the car can accelerate more strongly.
“Horsepower” is a measure of engine power—how much work the engine can do over time. When someone throws out a number like 700 hp for a luxury SUV, it implies very aggressive performance goals (strong acceleration, higher top-end potential, and likely major drivetrain upgrades).
"Oh god, uh, so it's all rebadged nissan products which already not great not great
Uh, the qx 80 last got a refresh sometime"
“Rebadged” means a vehicle is essentially the same platform and engineering as another brand’s model, but sold under a different badge and usually with different styling or trim. The speaker is criticizing Infiniti for relying heavily on Nissan-derived products.
"We you know, they had it planned to enter an eeve and into
production in
2025 when they unveiled a concept coup
Evie in 2023
Um, it was supposed to platform share with the electric maxima both of those cars don't exist"
Platform sharing means two different cars are built on the same basic “skeleton.” It helps companies make cars faster and cheaper.
“Platform sharing” means two different cars are built using the same underlying architecture (chassis, major components, and engineering base). Automakers do this to reduce development costs and speed up production, especially in fast-moving segments like EVs.
"What do you
That's a new one for me. They're like doing burnouts or you know
Heavy lead footed throttle work or whatever. Okay. I've never heard that referred to hot dog in it"
A burnout is when you spin the tires while the car is stopped or moving slowly, usually to make smoke. It’s fun-looking, but it can wear out tires fast and may be illegal.
Burnouts are when a driver spins the tires to generate smoke and heat, usually to show off or to warm tires. They’re also sometimes used in drag racing contexts, but in street settings they’re often illegal and can damage tires and drivetrain components.
"I looked this up because I was curious without destination And like tax and title and all that it is $83,750 starting price starting"
When you buy a car, the price you see online usually doesn’t include everything. Taxes and title/registration fees are added on top, so the total cost is higher.
“Tax and title” are common components of the out-the-door cost of buying a car. Even when a vehicle has a “starting price,” taxes, registration, and title fees can significantly raise the total you pay at purchase.
"No, he was doing uh, he was trying to do four wheel drive bird out doughnut things and then it hooked up for a second"
Four-wheel drive means the car can send power to all four wheels. That usually helps with grip, so it can do more dramatic driving moves safely (like donuts) compared to a car that only powers two wheels.
Four-wheel drive (4WD) sends power to both the front and rear axles, improving traction in low-grip conditions. The speaker describes a demo involving “four wheel drive bird out doughnut things,” implying the system was used to enable aggressive maneuvers like donuts.
"[2894.0s] Nissan is up there with dodge and chrysler in terms of
[2899.5s] Car brads that are really skating on
[2903.4s] Decisions they made 10 years ago"
Chrysler is another major American car company. The speaker is using it as part of a comparison group for brands that haven’t been doing great lately.
Chrysler is an American automaker that historically produced a mix of mainstream and premium vehicles. The speaker groups it with other brands as examples of companies that may be “skating” on earlier decisions.
"[3208.9s] When I read this article it was [3210.9s] 10 minutes after I saw the headline that's the spot price of Brent crude hit $144 a barrel"
Brent crude is a type of oil that the world uses as a price reference. If the price jumps, it can make fuel and transportation more expensive, which can affect car costs too.
Brent crude is a globally traded benchmark for crude oil prices, often used as a reference for energy costs worldwide. When its “spot price” spikes, it can ripple into fuel prices and the broader cost of producing and shipping goods, including vehicles.
"I'll just look it up right now ... VW Atlas mpg ... Up to 20 city 27 highway"
MPG (miles per gallon) is a measure of fuel efficiency for gasoline vehicles. The host cites an “Atlas mpg” figure to contrast with EVs, implying that conventional fuel economy is still a key selling point for some buyers.
"Nobody wants EVs guess we'll go back to making gas cars now ... I've been pretty down on EVs largely because of like the structural problems..."
EVs are electric cars. Instead of using gas, they run on electricity stored in a battery.
EVs are electric vehicles, powered primarily by electricity stored in a battery rather than gasoline. The segment discusses EV adoption barriers and how those barriers can influence automakers’ production decisions.
"Yeah, you know the fact that like we let tesla run the space and now we're like, oh no"
Tesla is one of the best-known electric car companies. The speaker is saying Tesla’s influence changed how everyone else thinks about EVs.
Tesla is a major EV manufacturer that helped popularize electric vehicles in the U.S. The host’s point is that Tesla’s success influenced how other companies and policymakers approach EV competition and industry strategy.
Concept
tendency of the rate of profit to fall
"I like to call it the the tendency of the rate of profit to fall But yeah, like it's"
This is an economics idea about why companies’ profits can get harder over time. They’re using it to explain why businesses might make decisions that don’t feel great for customers.
“The tendency of the rate of profit to fall” is an economic theory (often associated with Marxian economics) suggesting that profitability can decline over time due to competitive and structural pressures. The speaker uses it as a framework for explaining why companies make choices that can lead to worse products or outcomes.
"A bunch of phone makers that we never heard of over here are making the best electric cars Anyone's ever seen and they're doing it seemingly at no effort"
They’re talking about electric cars and who’s making the best ones. The takeaway is that some less-famous companies might be doing a great job with EVs.
The segment discusses electric vehicles as a category where some automakers are perceived to be outperforming others. The underlying theme is that EV progress can come from unexpected players, not just the biggest legacy brands.
"But uh quote automakers and other users of steel and aluminum products could be on the hook for even higher tariffs in the coming months... many finished products containing aluminum and steel will be subject to a 25 duty on the full value of a product"
A tariff is basically a tax on imported products. If steel and aluminum get taxed more, car companies that use those metals can end up paying more, and that can make cars cost more too.
Tariffs are taxes the government charges on imported goods. When tariffs rise on steel and aluminum, automakers and other manufacturers that use those materials may face higher costs, which can flow through to vehicle pricing.
"Because I was trying to check the times for an nls race while I was sick And I got flashbacked with nerbergring tv saying proudly that we're suckin dick"
The Nürburgring is a well-known race track in Germany. People often watch races there on TV, and the speaker is referencing that kind of racing coverage.
The Nürburgring is a famous German motorsports circuit, known for endurance racing and high-profile TV coverage. The speaker mentions it in the context of watching race programming while sick, highlighting how motorsport media is tied to the car culture they’re discussing.
"Somehow all of the italian high-end boutique auto bakers seem to be fine. Yes, they're doing great. Ferrari's Rolls-Royce is"
Ferrari is a famous Italian car company that makes high-end sports cars and races in Formula 1. The hosts are basically saying Ferrari is doing great right now.
Ferrari is an Italian high-performance automaker best known for its Formula 1 program and supercars. In the episode, it’s used as an example of a company that’s performing exceptionally well financially.
"Insane amalgamation between an lmp1 car or the the valkyrie and an f1 car at silverstone"
F1 is the top level of open-wheel racing. They’re saying the test car looks like it mixes ideas from F1 with other race categories.
F1 is Formula 1, the highest level of open-wheel motorsport. The episode compares Aston Martin’s testing car to an F1-style concept, implying a blend of design or performance philosophy from both endurance prototypes and F1.
"There is a state rail plan that was added for this year and currently it is open for public comment and"
Public comment is a chance for regular people to share their opinions before a plan is finalized. Here, it’s about a rail plan in Washington.
“Public comment” is a formal period where residents can submit feedback on proposed plans or policies. In this segment, it’s tied to a state rail plan, indicating the community can influence how rail infrastructure is shaped.
"But most of their trackage is owned by a burlington the northern santa fe [4883.6s] um"
BNSF is a big freight railroad company in the U.S. If they own the tracks, their freight schedules can limit when and how passenger trains run.
Burlington Northern Santa Fe (BNSF) is a major U.S. freight railroad. The speaker notes that most of the relevant trackage is owned by BNSF, which influences how passenger services can operate on shared infrastructure.
"I'm gonna do a meet-up at the pittsburgh vintage grand prix"
That’s a car event in Pittsburgh for classic race cars. People who love older cars go to watch them and meet other fans.
The Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix is a motorsports event focused on classic and vintage racing cars. It’s a common kind of venue where enthusiasts meet, see historic cars on track, and sometimes attend related talks or meet-ups.
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All right three two one
Yeah, I was about to say I was just like wow we're really holding this week, huh?
Hello, and welcome to episode 11 of trans girlies. Well the only automotive podcast where one of your hosts is so fucking mad at the
Rabbit dog of the country America that she lives in she's decided to pick up Maoist standard English as a second language. I
The other host is gonna stage an intervention because nothing gets commuted some more made fun of than a Maoist
White people trying to do Mao shit
Hi, I'm I am that host. I am Victoria Scott my pronouns are she and her and I'm here with my co-host
Hi, my name is Duran Hoffs that are my pronouns are she and her
Victoria what a fucking nightmare fucking week
Yeah, you know, we've been I've been trying really hard at least to be like all right
I'm back in the States from my you know whirlwind European tour that still I can't shut up about you know again being an embarrassing
American
I'm gonna just pretend things are going back to normal
There is there is something that I've wanted to talk about in the show for a while
Which is I there is a possibility that in the near future. I might end up with a car again
It is a car
That I would love I don't want to go into details because I was waiting to like get the car and do pictures
Oh, I had a whole story planned. I had
This this like big kind of like surprise thing for it that I wanted to launch with the show
but the thing is see is the car is in another state and
You know the podcast is doing well
But it is still my only source of like my income my wife, you know works
But like we don't make a ton of money
So I'd like to have like a relatively stable foundation if I'm gonna pick up the major expense of a car all the gas
It needs and car insurance, which I'm doing full coverage this time after having a bit last time by my car getting stolen
Correct, it turns out that it is impossible to plan any aspect of your life when you live in the United States of America in
2026
And so I feel like we have to discuss the fact that
There is no tangible future whatsoever for basically anybody on earth right now
Because it turns out that the Omni crisis has consumed my my specific hobby
Of the wanting to buy a shitty old car
the Omni crisis has consumed your
Your ability to plan because you have horrid horrid anxiety my dear friend
It's hard to plan. I have the flight
To go to another state. I have to drive through a bunch of states where they've recently they're flirting with making it like actually
Unarrestable offense to piss in Idaho
Which is a problem for me because I need to drive through Idaho to get back here from most states because I live in Washington
Which shares a land border?
And go the long way come on
I know but then I have to drive through California where gas is currently $6 a gallon and in a month. It might be 10
Because we we you know, I have the notes here
I've been writing them down through the week and they changes every fucking five minutes
So they're pointless at this point when I wrote the notes the first time Brent crude oil spot-pricing
To not futures but like present like give me oil right now was a hundred and forty four dollars a standard barrel
Which was an all-time high higher than when Russia invaded Ukraine higher than coven higher than the great financial crisis
Because Trump had promised that he was going to wipe out Iranian civilization
And everybody had that fun day remember Tuesday where everybody was like, ooh, are we gonna use nuclear weapons?
Maybe we're just gonna destroy every power plant for a city for a country of 90 million people
And no one can stop him cool. This is great
So, you know that that's spiked oil prices then they came way way back down like to a day later because he and unilaterally
What could go wrong?
Yeah, the straight was open and then immediately Israel decided to go back to massacring people in the southern southern Lebanon and killed like 300 civilians
Just leveled entire apartment blocks because they were like you can't stop us
Because no one can stop us because that's the world we live in is no one can stop them
They're right. Nobody has the political will or the the moral backbone to stop them
But Iran was like you can't do that that was in the ceasefire and it turned out that there was never actually a ceasefire written
There was not a single document. There was a version in Farsi and there was a version in English and they didn't match
And one of the first vibes based ceasefire
I think we've ever like the most vibes based ceasefire since like that story from World War one where they just played
Soccer with each other, which I don't I don't think that's true
I don't think that's true like if that's true
World the world is nicer than I like to think but like I don't think that story is true. I don't
All those guys were hamburger meat
In a bayonet charge, you know what I mean?
Yeah, one of the things about World War one that many people said was that like, you know
It was really a chill time of a good time for everybody involved. It didn't make anybody become a weird fascist
Nobody everybody was like that was a fun time. We should do it again sometime, which is why they had a second one
I'll see you again in twenty five years
David this this this ceasefire that didn't exist
Lasted for all of like 12 hours two ships got through but it was enough for the market to be like
Oh, it's fine and get an oil went down to like oil futures again and not spot price
But like oil futures went back down to like ninety two dollars a barrel
Which is still thirty dollars more than it was three months ago, but it was it's
Normal for whatever normal is and now of course this morning my wife every morning this week
I roll over my wife beats me awake every day because she just naturally wakes up at 7 a.m
No matter what barista barista power
Barista power. Yeah, so I roll over and she's like did you read yet? And as I'm like bleary-eyed
Looking at my phone. I'm like, oh god. What did he do this time? And she's like, oh, yeah
We're we're blockading the Strait of Hormuz ourselves now and I was like what you you're joking surely you're joking
I'm I'm half asleep. I am hungover because I did I scanned film for 11 hours yesterday
And I just like got carried away drinking the chemicals. Why were you hungover?
Well, thank you. What was it gonna scan sober come on?
Okay, sure. Yeah, have you ever operated a plus tech 120? It is the most mind-numbing activity in existence
You kind of get us hell right now
Honestly, I was pretty it was pretty cathartic and I was with a friend's place
So it was it was fun, but I it's I went to bed at 1 a.m. Cuz I scanned literally for all day
Mm-hmm. I was standing until 12 30 in the morning. I
Really, I think the best way there's two ways to describe our current moment
Through memes and media as Americans are want to do it's either burger or cultural reference
And I'm gonna hit you with the cultural reference
Do you remember the episode of Futurama where they find the robot who has the paddle wheel inside her?
And if she runs out of water, she's gonna die and every like 30 minutes or so
She just starts screaming that this is this is it this time's for for sure
This does feel like what the oil market is doing
We're running out of oil
Like the ships are finally getting here that we're finally going to stop get living in a world in which commodities magically manifest in front of our eyes I
Don't think so nothing ever happens Victoria. That's like nothing ever happens like that's the
Tuesday day full of anxiety. What happened nothing
Like the wars will happen the horrors will continue unabated, but nothing
Significant is going to like
Here's the thing, right? It's like this is the realization I have when I was like watching all this is I'm like I
If we had nuked Iran, I probably would have woke up the next day and continued with my stupid meaningless life
That's where I like this podcast does pretty well
I would continue like flipping light switches and electricity would flow from like the dams built in the
1930s through the transmission lines that cut all the way across the Cascades
Directly to my home where I can get electricity
And I could have gone to the Trader Joe's and I could have bought coffee that was imported here from Brazil
And you know made my little my little stupid little coffees in the poor over coffees in the morning
And so I am under no illusions that like as an American
I am directly impacted by any of this shit because I like I am not the key focus here
We kill we've already killed 2000 people in Iran the Israelis have killed
I don't even fucking know how many people at this point where it's gonna take a generation to count all the dead
From the past what four years at this point and bipartisan consensus that they get to kill whoever they want
So I'm not and I am not trying to center myself. I am putting this in the episode
I wanted to talk about this simply because I don't know how much longer I can magically flip a light switch and electricity
Comes to my home through like the you know for free basically
I mean it costs money, but like we do not live in a depression era mentality
Like my grandparents grew up with that, you know my great-grandparents migrated here because there was no food in Greece
like
Different kinds of material scarcity mindset and like I don't know how long can I keep making coffee for I?
Don't know it certainly wouldn't be unprecedented in world history for an empire to fall and stop being able to source coffee like
You know your
Yes, Jordan. Did you see the did you see the post earlier today where it was just
Someone going like basically the Iranians told JD Vance to go fuck himself and his
His demands and I just have to imagine there was someone across from him
Going like so like what gas is eight dollars?
Eight dollars a gallon over the summer. Do you think they're gonna put you in a nice prison?
Like do you think they're gonna put you specifically in one of the good ones like do you think you even think you're gonna make prison like again
My rant from the other episode
Duncan doughnuts America does run on Duncan if coffee disappears. We're doing January
6600 word word
We're doing January sixes that we haven't even conceived of before
I don't know. I mean it's like water the field of
Progress with the blood of tyrants so we could get our little treats back in order
I don't know. It's just like I you know and this is kind of like it's coming to a head with this car thing
I spent like an hour talking to my mother-in-law earlier like hey do you have some advice for me because I you're like
Wiser than me. You are like, you know, it's she's a bit why are you giving me that look she's a very sweet lady
No, no, no, no, sorry. Sorry. Sorry. I almost I almost accidentally closed to the tab that you were in
I I did a weird trackpad mistake for a second and I was I was making that face because I was worried I was
I was about to leave you
And so like on one hand, I'm like genuinely sick to my stomach that we keep killing people
Yeah, and I can seemingly do nothing to stop it because I think we're gonna have bipartisan consensus that like killing people in the Middle East is fine
That's just been the status my whole life through both parties
Nobody seems to have the appetite to say hey actually maybe we should not do this and that would be what I'd actually like
So I'm not getting that and I'm just gonna be sick about it forever and that I should be like don't get me wrong
That is
I think that comes with being American is you just should feel kind of sick all the time about all the people this country
Berries for no goddamn good reason
But on the other hand
Like I've been carrying that for years. That's you know, that's
Feeling very direct and but it is not a new feeling she has
The entire time I've known her
On the other hand though
Yeah, the other hand though
This whole like so three like in a month and a half from now if I'm going to go fly out to pick up a car
And drive it over 2,000 miles home. I don't know what the laws are going to be like in the state of Idaho
Um or anywhere else for that matter, but Idaho is the really risky one right now because they've got like a
really it's like
genuinely not looking great there, uh, which I knew was going to be the case
Why I moved to Washington, but like Idaho is looking dodgy. I don't know what gas is going to cost
I don't know if like I imagine air carriers are going to have to cut back some flights and cancel a bunch of shit
If jet a ends up doubling again, uh in the next like
Two months, which it very well could if we cut off 25 of the world's oil supply
Overnight that's just you don't like
There is a basic supply and demand thing here and like, uh, the because other countries have the ability to preserve
Their domestic supply. I think it's going to be more serious in the u.s. Where we can refine less of our way
Doesn't matter. It doesn't fucking matter. I why do I know all this?
So I can go buy a $3,000 car. I'm doing the math on things that is just I have no power
And I am going insane
And I don't know how you wake up every day
And I send my I send my stupid little emails and I make my dumb little pour over coffee
And I just do not know how to keep functioning normally
That is why I put this in because I imagined lots of people who are listening
feel similarly
I
I've told you personally often about how I reached these depths of despair
Often and I'm not numb to it now
But in fact it well, it's just like
I where you
Where you are led
We're both at the point where I you know getting out of bed is pretty hard, but also
Yeah, I at least for a long time. I at least had a day job. I quite liked which I
As of this recording did and you still have that day job, which is great. Um
And like I I love my life my my little life here is so delightful. However
It's really hard to get out of bed in the morning. Uh, it's really hard to
Do
There's a lot during the first Trump administration. I had to learn about how to consume news in such a way
That did not
Make me go on a grippy sock vacation
And I I I'm still using all of those tools, which is how I stay. I like micro dose it
Uh rather than just mainlining it
but like
You know, I have to cling to things like
Orban eating shit in a landslide in Hungary
I have to I have to take these things such as like, you know what?
Like are things going to get rough for us here in America? Yes
But also we're losing this we're losing this we're getting our pants beat diplomatically and that's
It's hi beepo. Uh, it's in fact good that this is happening because I I just see this administration
like
They are going through the death spiral of
They can't even do the Nixon administration, right? Which I'm not saying Nixon even did the Nixon administration, right?
But like this is what happens when you like are as bad as Nixon, but somehow you're a sober man
You know, this is sober dementia man rather than a guy who was so drunk all the time. He was wiretapping himself
And thankfully last time I checked Henry Kissinger is still dead. So that's true
He is if people want to keep tabs on that just to make sure
If these people take axes I can't say that never mind
I I was thinking about it and I was like, nope. All right. They would time to reel it back in what I will say is this
Uh, there is a bottle of very nice champagne in my fridge for when it happens
And the promise of it happening
Is all that keeps me going sometimes not even because I think it will lead to material change
It will make my life better or stop the pogroms against like, you know
immigrants the united states or
To curtail the rise of ice or help with trans rights or stop our domestic policy of killing literally
Any person trying to build a better world?
in the middle east or global south
But I do think that I could use the celebration, uh, and it will be fun
Because I think that broadly that will probably fracture America in a way that we'll never recover from
Which that that like this interregnum is what's killing me, right? Like
The beast the beast is lurching and dying and bleeding out and I'm like damn. That's crazy
I what am I supposed to do? I'm waiting for it to stop breathing. Oh my god. Yeah, but this I swear to god
I just I don't know
I don't know because like
There's comfort in that every single generation of humans has thought that they had the world is ending around them
Every every generation of humans is arrogant enough to assume that we are seeing
I thought my country was gonna kill like five million people this week
And I really did too for a couple hours and then I realized nah
Like no because once there are certain things that we could do that we'll still have global
repercussions. That's one of them
You know moose has been closed for a month though
Yeah, and that's not like this ship. It's not good
But you know what yeah, I hate to say this is the problem
You can't sail the log way around we did it for oh, we did it for a while around this
You can't sail oil out of the Strait of Hormuz
Other without
If it's blockaded the 25% of the world's oil is just stuck in that
Very oil rich region of the world
Gas will be expensive for a while. We'll start refining more of it at home
We need plastic. This is what I'm saying, right? It's like we don't need plastic. We like plastic
There there are two schools of thought here, right? There is
Nothing ever happens or we kill five million people either of those could happen tomorrow and the day after and the day after
Um, both of us we could both be wrong. We could we can't both be right. That's for sure
Uh, one of us one of us is either right or both of us are wrong
um
I just I don't know how to survive to the 1980s
Barely this is yeah, but we did
We we did but also like that's kind of like a when the long run we all die and it's like yeah, that's true
I I need to know whether or not I can get an airplane and drive across the united states
in a month and a half
And or whether gas is going to be
$12 a gallon and Idaho is going to have bounty hunters rolling around with like technicals with tranny seeking missiles
Those aren't real free band name, by the way
Yeah, you should yeah. Yeah, uh, those aren't real
If maybe look into the quote on what shipping a car would be
That's too much
It's more than the car's worth. It's more than the car's worth
The gas you put in it might be more than the car's worth by the time we get there. It's a
Anything you do is more than the car's worth, you know
Uh, anyway, this is the uh, this is the this is the jordan and vicky geopolitics 20 minutes
Yeah, it's the uh, it's the uh
You and I are the perfect yin and yang of very similar women, which uh
I know one of my one of the things I say is we're different women. The thing is we're not that different
I just have to look at the bright side or I would have ended it years ago
And you are better at just keep going in the like oh god. It's all over
I live in the worst so back
Uh
The glass is half of all will be will be fine
No, I I am the type of the amount of water the glass never changes. It's fine
I'm the type of person who read kamu and was like damn this guy's spittin
I love staring into the maw of my meetinglessness
Uh, and just like my complete lack of power and then just getting
A little probably too close sometimes, but also I you know, I'm honest with myself about
All of this gesturing to life broadly the other thing that I think is worth mentioning here
That's driving me batshit insane
Uh to bring it back to the show
Like a sensible topic
Is
Have you seen did you see the thing that I posted in the show notes about the infinity executive?
Oh
Yeah, well to be fair one. I have to imagine being one of the chief executives at infinity
Must be like being one of those japanese soldiers in the middle of the pacific who don't realize the war is over like what?
Hey, how many I don't know how many things it fit like are they still selling the g 37?
What are they doing?
I have such a great foray into that but just to click get everybody up to speed
I'll post it in the show notes as well, but um
The drive got a scoop this week
Joel fetter wrote a piece up about an infinity executive. It was specifically
tiago castro
who told the drive
that
theoretically the company would like to build a 700 horsepower qx 80
Um, and this is kind of like yeah, but this is one of those things where it's like
What world are you living in like and this is the bridging these gaps?
I wrote an article like a couple years ago about it was called the the emperor's large luxury suv
About the dissonance between living in the material world where people are harmed
And in the corporate world where like next quarter is all that exists and profit is literally your god
Because I think that americans worship money
um
and
So like it's really like nobody knows what's going to happen corporations have decided okay
Well, let's pretend nothing is happening that worked that works great until it doesn't and somebody else has always left holding the bag
So fuck it
the america taxpayer
taxpayer rather
yeah, um, so I would like to uh in in the in the spirit of uh
Perpetual ridiculous optimism. Let's do a review quickly of what infinity does what they're making and where they're going
Oh god, uh, so it's all rebadged nissan products which already not great not great
Uh, the qx 80 last got a refresh sometime
It was the qx 80 brand new in like 2015
No, no they refreshed it more recently. Okay, because I was about to say I was like one of those is what ran me off the road on my aprilia
Scooter many years ago a lady was texting and driving and rather than me getting flattened by a qx 80. Oh shapesplace speaking of
One of the highlights of this week. Yeah
Yeah, uh, a wonderful wonderful person. Uh, Nathan made us a song
Uh that we will put at the end of the episode baffling baffling was incredible. It was so good
I cackled like a maniac
I did too. I was also deeply that's the other thing where the this last week has felt unreal for a variety of not fun personal reasons
And also I got very sick
So I was just and my wife was in chicago without me
So I was just kind of
home in the uh alone
And you were in the victoria scott thought zone
Yeah, because uh, I was having nightmare fever visions any time I fell asleep. I
Tuesday night or tuesday before before the the truth nuke rather than the actual nuke got dropped
um
I spent a lot of my day wandering around with my camera because I took a mental health day from work for
Not mental health reasons. Yeah. Yeah, that's yeah, that's um, yeah
I uh
I then had a lovely night with my wife and then
Uh as uh, she goes to bed before I do and then I go, huh
I'm really freezing cold
That's weird because it's 70 degrees of the house and then I was just like, uh, maybe I'm just having like a reverse hot flash or whatever
And then I go sit down at the basement
I am in
A hoodie and sweats under a blanket with a space heater pointed at me shivering
Beepo around me and I'm just like, well, she doesn't feel hot
Like I don't I don't know what's wrong. And then yeah, I spent several hours shivering in bed and then I was just like
I'm probably finding that I wake up the next morning
dying um
So that's that's how I spent our horror uh geopolitical week. Um
Where did I get started on that was that there was a point about infinity in there? I think uh
Well, I was just gonna say you were you were saying you were doing kind of bleak this week
Yeah, it's a bleak week. But yeah, this is one of those things where I'm just like, uh
To be an infinity executive must already have the sort of cognitive impairment of like getting kicked in the head by a horse
so like
That that's like worse than being a regular automotive executive or even worse than being a regular nissan executive at this point
Like I have to imagine I was making clear decisions as my brain was boiling away and I was hugging a toilet bowl
Uh about as much as this guy being like, yeah, we can put 800 horsepower in a qx 80
Well, yeah, because I wanted to say like the the thing about the qx 80, right?
I wanted to talk about infinity's product strategy and we got into you hugging the toilet bowl
Which is like to be fair
There so there there's sensible plan is to add one model per year
Um over the next couple of years to become like, I don't know lower volume boutique
What everybody's doing, which is there are fewer people with money. So let's sell to them instead of selling to like poor people
Yeah, uh jerk off motion fart noise. Um, astin martin spending 300 million dollars developing a car for one guy
Yeah, did you see that?
No, that's not in the notes
Yeah, I know I this is just like a
uh
Fuck it's stupid stupid world. We live in anyways. Yes infinity
Um infinity, uh, you know it's being part of nissan you would assume like okay
Well, they must be like planning to make e v's in some way like that seems to be where the market's going
um
And nissan makes the leaf which was the first mass market e v ever built
They should have made they should have made a nice leaf like lexus did make a nice prius
I know the little lexus prius the ct 200 h that thing fucking rocks
I've got to let beepo out of the room. I'll be right back. You go you go off. Okay. Okay. I'll keep going off. Um
So, you know nissan dominated global e v sales for most of the 20 the 2010s
Um
Until they were dethroned in 2020 by tesla with the model three
But they had this massive lead over the entire like automotive industry
Which they squandered basically for an entire decade and never developed in infinity
Kind of neglected the leaf for a while in favor of the nissan aria
Which is a very solidly mediocre suv
Which they then canceled sale american sales of this year to focus on the new leaf instead
Which apparently is good again
But the thing that I would ask you is when has anybody besides the two of us talked about the nissan leaf in the past?
about our four years, let's say
Oh, yeah, what's used? What's you said four years? I immediately go, uh
Uh, the last time I saw
The leaf nismo ever come out
in the us
Don't think it did. No, it only was a japan only thing. I think they were filming an ad for it in austin
That's the only reason because I saw somewhat
I that really cute thing that I forgot they still do for car commercials where it is driving around a city
But by driving around a city, it's on a flat bed
Yeah, drive it around. We'll ask to get the reflections and stuff
Uh-huh
But yeah, so after last episode I was looking at used leaves there
They are either not working or they're in good enough shape that they're expensive again
Yeah, well, that's what happens with gas is
An average of four fifteen or whatever a gallon it'll be like six dollars by the time this episode comes out
But in any case, so you would think like infinity would be like, okay
We you know, they had it planned to enter an eeve and into
production in
2025 when they unveiled a concept coup
Evie in 2023
Um, it was supposed to platform share with the electric maxima both of those cars don't exist
Um, yeah, that is that is a shapes place uh for neeson executives
Um, so you might say well, how is infinities relevance doing?
Uh infinity recovered quite well from the global financial crash in 2008 and they reached a record high
Sales of 150,000 vehicles give or take in the us in 2017
Which is pretty solid like all things considered
That feels late last year
Last year they sold 58,000 cars in total
Uh, which is about a hundred thousand less than they sold, you know
Eight years before. Yeah
Uh, I know capitalist, but that seems like it might be a problem if you need to grow things. I don't know
Uh line go line not supposed to go down line line's supposed to go up mods
mods
my juice
I spilled my profits jute mods mods
That is what if you want to talk about like the big three bailouts of of oh
Like it is mods mods. I spilled my juice. Where are my profits?
And it's just like look you could have more juice, but I need you to here's a gun and you've got a shoot potty act in the head
Oh rest in peace
Infinity ended last year with two cars
They had the qx80
Yes
They had the qx80 the full size body on frame for your suv that is a Nissan armada
Or I think it's an armada. Yeah, it's not let me I wrote it down somewhere in the notes. Hang on a second
If it's not the armada, I don't know what the fuck it is. I think it's I think it's the armada. Yeah, it's the it's the armada
Um and the qx60 which is a rebadged pathfinder. I think
um
Also a three row suv
well
so
So, okay, when did the
Wait, wait, wait. What?
They added a third car this year to their lineup. Okay. It's the infinity qx65
Which is the identical copy of the qx60, but instead of being at it looking like an suv it has a
Coupé roof line
It's more svelte and it's missing a row and it has less cargo space, but it's an identical drivetrain that nobody likes
Um, so that's a third vehicle
It's it you may notice all of these cars are gas only they don't have a single hybrid even
Um, I had to check I really was like maybe they're doing crazy shit over there and we're just not appreciating it
Because it doesn't happen sometimes. Uh-huh. Sometimes a car company makes really good stuff. It just doesn't get noticed
No, they are just not making cars. Um, so you would say
Yeah, you would say okay
Next year they're gonna add another car. They've announced it is definitely a car
So perfect time for like the infinity leaf, you know, call it like a maple or something
Fancy or like wood grain leather upholstery
infinity version of the leaf
No
No, um, it's gonna be a sports sedan revival of the q50
If you remember that car, which which was the g 37, right?
Which is the g 39 successor which were
Gee, whatever the hell they were at and then then yeah the g 37 because uh, the 35 the svp of us marketing and sales
Castro bought a g 35 is his first car when he moved to the us a couple decades ago
And it's convinced him that like they needed to get back in touch with their like sports car routes
Which is crazy to me because like okay, so this week I went out and got dinner
Um with with my girlfriend Liz, right? We went to uh, we went and got dinner together
We were sitting at the bus stop waiting for it to take us home and like two kids
I felt really bad actually afterward because like a all blacked out
Uh, infinity g 37 on like knockoff ebay wheels
Dark overly dark illegal tints led everything like, uh, you know, you could tell the coilovers were cheap slam
Dish slam dish
Uh, it was you could tell the coilovers were cheap because the way it bounced over bumps
It rolled past us stopped at a light and inside where I swear to god children driving it
Like it was like it was like a 16 year old who had like just grown his first facial hair
And like they weren't doing hot dog shit
They weren't doing anything mockable
But I did kind of laugh because it was just the perfect reveal of like, ah, yes the the
The g 37 has been passed on to the next generation of enthusiasts
Time out
Hot dog shit
Hot dog in it, you know
What do you
That's a new one for me. They're like doing burnouts or you know
Heavy lead footed throttle work or whatever. Okay. I've never heard that referred to hot dog in it
I was about to say is this like dragging in your car or you're trying to put your dick in the exhaust or something
No, hot hot the hot dog in at dictionary.com the active one who hot dogs
The performance of intricate daring or flamboyant stunts
Sure. Yeah
You know like
It was first the origins come from the 1960s
Okay, all right, so so the stuff you had at the vault with you got a got a got a got
That's true. Yes. Yeah
It came up a bunch on my talkies. I don't know why you haven't heard it before
My radio programs
Yeah
Describing the fawns hot dogging another motorcycle trick
Yeah, I like I don't know
I guess in my mind the infinity lineup has been frozen in that like 2017 because I'm like, well, they make like the hatchback
That's really like a cla underneath
um
No, they make the they make the coop. I I was like they're selling q 60s, which is like the the
The coop of the q 50. I'm like, oh, they're gonna sell that forever like
They he's on has made
more
Oh god, what is uh
Oh
Vr 38s. Is that their six cylinder?
Well, the v3 v. Okay, so uh the vr. 38 d e t t
Is there is the gtr motor?
Okay, what's their regular v6 that's been in everything since the dawn of time?
You mean the vq the vq
Yeah, the vq. I think the successor motor was the vg, but they don't do that anymore the uh the motor that's in the
qx
60 and 65 is a turbo four. I think
That makes sense. Oh my god. I didn't I didn't I don't
Qx 60 engine. Yeah, two liter four cylinder
Uh, it was originally a vq 35 de and then they dropped that in favor of the turbo probably for
um
Yeah, it's a kr 20 d et now
uh because they
Wanted to um meet automotive emissions and fuel economy standards
And it's due to nissan's push to transition its vehicle line ups to 100 all electric vehicles by the 2030s
They should get started on that well to wait a copy that's still on their website, right?
They just never forgot to tape. Oh, okay. That's a wikipedia and its citation is uh
An article from gm authority
Yeah
Source
I was trying to figure out. Okay, then okay, so they've
I was like
There's a 26 twin turbo that is in the the z
And by new I mean, I think it's a detuned gtr motor
Oh, yeah that thing. I don't remember where that comes from. Don't quiz me. I saw one for real the other day
I was shocked
Posted on the trend grillesmo blue sky account because I was so surprised to see a non
Nismo z
There's like three of them that roll around to pittsburgh. They're apparently uh
Millennials are bought or not millennials. Gen Xers are the ones who are buying those by the way
Well, gen X is the only one who has any money and it was a car that came out in the 70s. So uh, that makes perfect sense to me
Mm-hmm
In any case
The so so you would think after all this they're like, okay
Um, you know, the the earliest planned hybrid is the year
2028 um
Because that's going to be a Nissan road with an infinity badge apparently that's the discussion
Um, cool
But in the meantime, tiego castro told the drive that uh
They kind of they they want quote. They're looking at like a performance line
Uh qx80 and so he said quote when we look at the performance line one the qx80 today has 450 horsepower
So we want something that is significantly better. So should we have 700 horsepower?
Ideally we can get 700 immediately or is it better to have something in between? That's the discussion right now timing is key
And quote
Sure, man. Yeah, you know, what's a very like easy way to get like
Really impressive horsepower numbers and also like cut down on your global emissions. Maybe if you made them EVs you stupid mother fuckers
Just
Re-badge it with the like
What is the infinity symbol even supposed to be because it's not like it's not the infinity logo
It's not like the symbol for infinity. No, it's like a well, it's I don't I don't actually know
It's like an oval with a triangle cut out
Yeah, it's an oval that like is already compromised, which again is infinity's whole deal
Nissan doesn't even like
Stella and I I our our nissan centra is a reliable highway miler who is like
Does it really cause us problems? But like
According to nissan and this is again, I am reading from wikipedia. I usually do more research than this
But jordan just keeps asking me questions. I really want to know the answer to
According to nissan the infinity logo is a stylized representation of a road extending to the horizon and of mount fuji
Reflecting its japanese origins
It's an American only car company
I
Like right like they said they only sold infinities in north america, right?
Cuz i'm pretty sure yeah
In the forza games
Do you know what they badge infinity as?
In american automaker
They call that shamerican. Yeah
Uh, they apparently have sold some in europe
At some points, but I don't know if they currently are selling them in europe
Um, they don't sell them in russia and belarus anymore
Why would happen?
um
Yeah, I don't
They're in november of 2021. They said there would be a hundred percent all electric by 2030
So that's a cool
Let's just i'll give them the rest of this. I was about to say i'll give them the rest of i'll give them all of
2020-60 even though we're a quarter in already, but like yeah
Speaking of timing being key, right? Like um, it would it
Just the just the qx80 right which is a full-size body on frame
suv
Um, I looked this up because I was curious without destination
And like tax and title and all that it is $83,750 starting price starting
It's starting price that is what it clocks in at
Yeah, yeah, yeah, uh
It which I guess like if you think of it and here's the thing right you must expand your mind
And go into you have to shift into automotive journalist brain because this is what I did for a long time
That's still like it's still like
That's like $10,000 less than the starting price of lx i'm pretty sure
What does the lx start at now?
I don't know. What does a land cruiser end at?
Yeah, the lexus lx
Starts at $108,450
So this is really actually kind of a bargain and this is the thing
This is why I went insane right is because I've I I've never I
Take most of my 30s based on my current earnings potential to be able to afford one infinity qx80
And I think I would spend the money differently. Also, uh, it gets an epa rated combined 17 miles per gallon
Are you allowed to sell things for the numbers that low? That's not like a ferrari
I thought that you just couldn't do that anymore because Americans would like
Fucking do a fucking walk in a do the fucking abe simpson thing and just walk in throw their hat down and then pick it up
Hello. Oh my god
Oh
Being attacked by beep beep
But putting her uh putting her back so she's front declawed but not back declawed. I would never declaw a cat
This is a previous owner thing. Uh, so she doesn't really know what to do with her backlog
Anyways, that's a long way of saying that she just pierced my tit with
Yeah, but anyway, that's just I just thought it'd be fun to do an infinity episode because we're ragged on like every car manufacturer here
And infinity is kind of like it almost feels bad
But like it still doesn't feel bad enough. I wouldn't do it
You know, okay
So can I I'll I'm gonna this is uh, this is I'm not still sick, but I am frazzled
Uh, because I didn't really sleep last night for a lot of reasons, but uh, so I'm pretty out of what are you doing?
Oh
She keeps trying to get down and then I go, okay
I'm gonna let you down and then she's just like actually throw myself over mama's shoulder and go limp
Throw myself over mama's shoulder and go completely limp
um
Uh infinity there was a time and I think the early 2010s
where infinities were like
Cool and desirable and really seemed to be pushing things
Forward yeah, it was like it was in the air in the upswing
It was that exciting
It was the it was the uh, the the absolute peak of nissan
And infinity right before if things started to fall out and then of course the carlos goad of it all
But like do you remember the q-50 orouge concept?
Which was the nissan gtr driveline in a pretty handsome sedan?
Yes
Yeah, I do one sebastian battleobos murdered me in one of those
Really?
Yeah, he was doing trying to hate crime situation or no. No. No. No. He's a very sweet very uh gay friendly man
Okay, good
No, he was doing uh, he was trying to do four wheel drive bird out doughnut things and then it hooked up for a second
And it did lunge towards exactly where I was in the crowd at the moment
Uh
I think friend of the show or at least friend of mine elizabeth blackstock was also like might have been in the car for part of that demo run
Uh, but like that was if they had put that into production
That would have been such a cool thing and then you know
Their design language was actually pretty
Good for a while. I thought the q-50. I thought the q-50 was a perfectly handsome little thing
Well, you know, it's funny you mentioned. Yeah
It's funny you mentioned the arouge because the they they did actually put out a design concept of a qx-80
With a gtr drivetrain in it. They had a thousand horsepower
So I guess that's like gonna be their priority trick forever. It's like the hellcat formula, right? Take a gtr drivetrain
Drop it and something else
The nissan juke are
Was the sickest thing that they those fucking sick perverts at nissan
They whoever greenlit that and I think they sold I think they ended up at first
I think they were not going to sell it to anyone and then I think they sold
five to like
Various sickos and perverts who we would love to say like I was gonna well
I don't know about that because I think it was all like saudi and barady royal families, but
Look man, like I you gotta let me have a drink and you gotta be cool trans women, but you can still come on
I would love to pick the salt in the brunette's brain about his car collection. Let's be real here. He's not allowed to talk about it
Well, he's gotten a lot of trouble
Break break the radio silence and come on the show and talk about like why you expect like a wagon Rolls Royce's with tan interiors
Sorry, I just thought about uh
I just thought about us somehow getting a royal family member decapitated or something and I'm like, ah
Is that how we make our first real news headlines?
I don't again my main goal is to not cause any actual harm with
Generally my existence, but the very least the show
uh-huh, uh-huh um
Yeah, I just I I
nissan's like
Nissan is up there with dodge and chrysler in terms of
Car brads that are really skating on
Decisions they made 10 years ago
Yeah, and none of their new decisions like
I don't
I know that nissan is trying to go through a bunch of revivals stuff, but like
river wind like
Grypper went Honda was going to buy them basically for the bloodlust of defeating their long lived in me and then
Are we are we talked about this there there's there's the moment where the guy the head of uh, Honda was like
What do we gain from by nissan like he
The post nut clarity and he was like wait a second. I don't want this at all
You all have how much debt I don't want that
Like I
I don't know if nissan a nissan will ever be desirable again, which really sure they say they're making a new g
tr
The last gtr was in production from 2006
to two years ago
which is
Okay, also
My from when I turned 10
To 28 I had that car. I had that car my bedroom wall and I desperately
Desperately wanted to write a story about it when it was canceled because it meant a lot to me
and I could not for the life of me get my hands on one because
I don't think they drive they just didn't
I don't know if they I don't know I've never driven one. I was really curious
It was like a very important car to me and like they just it was like
It out with the smallest saddest whimper, which is not in my opinion what it deserved. I thought it was cool
I will go out there on the record as a gtr. Enjoyer
Oh, I think it's a really cool car
I just think they kept it in production far too long because like even with the like oh, well, yeah
Yeah, even with like the iphone style
uh
slight advancements year over year that they were doing or whatever like
I don't know. Yeah, I have a gtr 17
it's
I hate to be like I hate to
Just echo like uh, it's too electronic. It's boring. I never found it engaging to drive like it was driving. Yeah, I've driven one. Yeah
Not on track, but on some backgrounds in austin
Okay, rich people this was the thing about having a bunch of rich people friends in the austin car scene is people would throw me keys
Uh, because I was I was a young well to do not well to do that's not true
I was a very broke little twink who uh people seem to enjoy a lot. Um
But like that's uh, that's how I I didn't get like at hootiverse
Like the only person getting press cars usually was like gucker in california
I got a handful but like, um
Most of my cool things I I've driven are people threw me keys or I was like
Helping with a thing and I got to drive something
um
But yeah, the gtr was like
It felt long in the tooth when I drove one and that was 2018 and they kept making it for six additional years or whatever and i'm just like
It's it's a real like come on grandpa. Let's get you let's get you inside like there was
997
One and two
997 I know one 992 they did three generations of 9 11 in the gtr's lifespan
There were I don't know how you remember the model codes for those things
430
458
488
f8
296
There were five different mid-engine for like it's just you think about all the things that happened
well the g like
america's full decline basically happened in the lifespan of the nissan gtr
And this is just where I go like I don't
They had so much time during the bush administration and died just in time to see trump elected again
They had 20 years to figure out what they were going to do for the r
Like 36 and they're still just like yeah, we'll make one eventually
Don't rush us. Don't worry about it. It's like you're worst procrastinating friend and you're go and go for you're like
I'll body double with you. Do you need me to like make these phone calls for you? They're just like we'll do it eventually
It's fine
I hate I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. Well, it don't worry you can
You might be able to get a 700 horsepower qx80. I should also note that like reading through this article
I don't think there's like a ton there. I think it was kind of like yeah
We might we might do a high performance version someday because like everybody's doing performance versions
And we have 700 horsepower capable motors sitting around so we could just toss one of those in
I don't know if I'd take this like a definite thing, but it was just so funny to be like
When I read this article it was
10 minutes after I saw the headline that's the spot price of Brent crude hit $144 a barrel
And I was just like it's so funny
Being rational I hate
I hate being able to read. This is awful. Why would you curse me with this? I don't want to
Possess this knowledge
I used to think you had to be really smart to run an odd like an automaker
Like right that's a good growing up you assume that like these people are like, you know, I
I talked with my father about this a while ago where I felt really um
There was a part of like covid that was really comforting
Because it made me realize that no one actually has any idea what they're doing at any point
Like maybe five percent of humanity truly has their shit figured out and those are like
Usually hopefully people like doctors, you know
But
Yeah
Did you see
That or bond made the
The
And gesture when J.D. Vance was like stopping for him. They were like sharing a stage and
Apparently Vance was talking about like a landslide win for Orbot and Orbot literally just does the like the hand wavey that like the
I'm like that's
We're built different here in America. Um speaking of not knowing what the fuck you're doing. Yeah. Yeah, this is where I hit you with the second one
Yep
Um
Volkswagen is pausing production of the ID for in America. Who could have seen this? I'm sorry. It was the ID Tiguan now
Because they were gonna change the name to ID Tiguan remember from like episode six
It's so funny. I don't think so. I don't think they've actually changed the name
They're just like now we're gonna cut this out because we need to build more atlases in Chattanooga
Um, which I should have put this in the notes. I'll just look it up right now
VW Atlas mpg
Up to 20 city 27 highway
So, yeah, that's that's like
Nobody wants EVs guess we'll go back to making gas cars now not to be like I I have been pretty down on EVs as like a
I think it generally like I'm I would say that for the auto industry I skew a bit progressive, right?
um
And I've been pretty down on EVs largely because of like the structural problems that make them
Not feasible for a lot of people in america that I get lack of access to charging, etc, etc
Yeah, you know the fact that like we let tesla run the space and now we're like, oh no
Well, they run all the space so we have to abide by there. It's a mess for
mostly private industry commons raking
Reasons, um, but it is really funny to watch everybody just be like, well, we get we didn't really want to do this anyway. I fuck it
Let's just
We were making so much money
Unlike making
Volkswagen atlases and they keep people in the showroom. So that was all I had. I had no other points for this
I literally just wanted to laugh at them
Um, because I hate Volkswagen
I just I
They don't make any like thank god. They still make the golf, right?
My no, they don't make the golf. First of all, they only make the gti and the golf are they don't make a regular golf
for normal assholes like me
You're making a face like you so they're just
I was wearing eyeliner, so I didn't want to do this, but oh shaped place. It's gonna ruin your eyeliner
Oh my god, like what do you mean? They don't make a regular golf. They just what's the gti based on then?
It's just a gti
They might have a global golf. They don't we don't get one
Oh god, they stopped it with like the the mark seven generation
Like the normal golf. Yeah
Is this like when I was looking at subarus the other day to
I used to be so plugged in of what every single auto maker was producing and now it's just just assume
Assume every showroom is worse than it was five years ago
It's crazy
We cars
Cars line went up forever on how much better cars were getting all the time and then something happened
And I hate the word and shitification because I think it is a really hand wavy way to talk about like
A lot of structural problems that are not
Inherent I like to call it the the tendency of the rate of profit to fall
But yeah, like it's
You know, it's it's like
American companies have a legal obligation to try to make the maximum value for shareholders
It's not a thing. They want to do it as a thing. They are well, they do want to do it
But it's a thing they were legally mandated to try to do so. Yeah, you know a lot of these bad business decisions bad
Uh business decisions. I threw quotes over that last bad. Um
Are all just because like
Some asshole thinks that it is the way to make the most buddy at any like
For the next quarter for the next three quarters. Yes
Yes, I feel like auto makers
I feel like auto makers used to be able to look into the future a little bit more
And now it's just I have
In my career, I spoke to people whose job it was to try to forecast long-term demand after like a decade
I actually remember speaking to somebody that I was like, dude, how are you going to deal with the collapse of american society?
And he was like, I don't know yet
And that's when I was like, oh shit. You really do try to uh predict like 10 years out in the future
We are the only person at this like incredibly fancy dinner
This automaker is taking us to is in the same page as I am sick. Cool. One of my uh, and we just
You ever been to the art museum the modern art museum in houston, texas. Yeah. Yeah
Okay, you know how they have the rothgo chapel. Yeah, of course and you just sit you sit in the room with like eight
12 foot high black canvases
And I don't know about you. I when I went there I had
One of the most profound emotional breakdowns of my entire life
um
Like it was it it like being able to know the future in any way just feels like you're permanently placed inside that room
Where you're just like, hmm. I don't I can't tell exactly what's moving me to my core here, but it's not good
You would deal really poorly with like a a sensory deprivation tank. I think
Oh my god, yeah, I think if we just started taking inputs away from you you would freak the fuck out
um
Because I thought I found the rothgo chapel like yes moving but like
Kind of relaxing
Kind of nice. Oh my god. Oh, I walked out sobbing from a panic attack
We gotta get you
help
I'm on meds. It's me doing well. We gotta get america. Um, that'll help you. Um
But like I just anyway that that feels like what the future is like it just feels yeah, I um
I
Think about uh, how I'm pretty sure people in disney knew coven was gonna happen before coven happened
Because do you know disney has a global intelligence officer?
No, but that's that tracks, uh-huh
That was a job posting they got put up a while ago and people went, huh?
And I'm like, yeah, that makes sense. I don't know. They're they're like, uh, but you know, bob auger happens to retire retire
Put up this new guy
Takes eats all of the coven shit and then bob auger's back. That's crazy
Uh, like I don't know. I feel like automakers aren't aren't even that clever anymore because it's just like no
I don't
I don't know who's in charge of volkswagen right now
But I don't envy him
Assuming it's a man probably I it almost I don't I I knew this at one point because it was a big deal
Uh, well you look that up one of the
Oliver bloom
Is he not german? I don't know
Yeah, he's was born in bronze bronze. Yeah bronze quag bronze shag
Bronze fag germany
Bronze fag ah
He he was a
He's got a degree in mechanical engineering
Cool, and he worked at the body shop and he worked doing planning for body shop and painted outie
Worked his way up. I guess but he is a guy you are correct. Cool. Uh
Do you think how much do you think he's just staring at a bottle in the middle of his room?
I don't know at at I I think this is a point where every automaker
Needs the space that I saw that toyota voter sports had in cologne
All right, have I told you this story about what's in the middle of their factory in cologne? No, there is a beautiful beautiful
beautiful
Traditional japanese garden in the middle of this industrial area in germany, and it's a really nice little courtyard
Because akio would go there and change smoke cigarettes when he was stressed out
If he was in germany visiting them and he got stressed out about anything
He would just go to the little courtyard and change smoke cigarettes in front of like a maple like a
Like a red maple and just look at the koi fish and just change smoke
And i'm gonna be like that is that is what a this the leader of an automaker should be doing
Like every single one of them needs a beautiful place to just go and go like fuck man fuck man
Fuck man like what are we fucking doing? It's all over like
Genuinely, thank you
A bunch of phone makers that we never heard of over here are making the best electric cars
Anyone's ever seen and they're doing it seemingly at no effort
Like yeah, and I it's just like oh, yeah sure sell me an id4
No, you won't yeah, I don't want one
yeah
Yeah, again a vehicle which exists to soak up the lease deals of the pre-tax credit
Uh collapse environment, which is now gone forever
Um
While it woke I I'm sorry because I I have I have a third topic for us, but it's also a downer
That's our podcast
Because jordan was sick. We have nothing fun. I wrote the notes entirely
Which means that it is time to suffer with me
This is we I'm taking you all to the mind palace in which I stare at the Rothkoch chapel
And we are going to look into the void together
um
so against this this
What was that what was the thing that Bernanke said irrational exuberance against the irrational exuberance of vokes wagon and
infinity in the world of material realities where
Supply and demand are actual things that like dictate whether or not you can get things
You cannot have a thing that doesn't exist. You even pulled from the ground and shipped through a straight
um
Ford is currently paying three billion dollars extra in aluminum tariffs because of president deals
um
That's a big rubber victoria
Yeah, it is so uh because um
Commodities have to be manufactured. They do not exist in like the the
imaginary realm
What could say like as a fetish in the sense that like it's just something that suddenly magically is given value
um
There's a factory in oswego new york that supplies 40 percent of the american auto industry's aluminum and it basically burned entirely down last year
Uh, they are still trying to fix it
They had like two fires. It didn't take out everything, but it took out enough of it that they can't supply a ton of aluminum
um
So ford had to go overseas because if you remember from a couple years ago
They changed the f-150's body to all aluminum to save to theoretically make it more fuel efficient
Yeah, remember that
I've only you saw how that cookie crumbled. Do you do you idealist motherfuckers?
Yeah, you poor fucking saps
And it's it is the best the f-150 is I think for the 27th straight year or something
I don't fucking know. It's been forever. It is still the best selling vehicle in america
They basically sell as many of them as they can pump out every year
Um, and because they are trying to smooth over uh tariffs supply shocks or whatever you want to call it
Um, they're trying not to jack up prices a ton
So they have gone to the trump administration for tariff relief related to aluminum
Because they have paid this extra through the I think they've paid two billion and they're on track to pay another billion in access tariffs
um
Be like because they've had to go overseas for it
Uh, and the trump admin is just like we don't fucking know you you don't go here, which I think is great
uh
To to go on your knees groveling to a man whose mind is complete soup
And be like hey, so we helped to get you elected presumably in some way
I mean, I think the other automakers were more on board, but like
You know they they walked him through their plants. They had they sent somebody to the stupid fucking round table where, uh
They call he called like people from somalia horrible things like they're all in the tank, right?
And he's still like i'm sorry. I'm not picking up that call who the fuck is for it. I don't know that is
Um, I just think it's funny. He he thinks that the forward is still trying to do some sort of business plot
Which I I wish we would can we do a business plot?
No, I I I told you I last episode I don't want capitalism back
Like the right wingers can't keep that one
um
According to the wall street journal article that broke this story, which is what I will be
I will be obviously putting this in the show notes
But uh quote automakers and other users of steel and aluminum products could be on the hook for even higher tariffs in the coming months
Under recent changes. I don't even know what changes. They are. I literally can't keep track
Um many finished products containing aluminum and steel will be subject to a 25 duty on the full value of a product
Instead of the 50 levy on just the value of the metal. Oh, good god
Yeah
Yeah
Hey, people who actually use your f-150 for like work stuff. Your new workflow. We're not talking about you 25 percent
25 percent cost like because I am sorry
If it's 50 on just the value of the metal, maybe you can make up through that for like economies of scale, you know
Which is again still three like just again still like three billion three billion dollars. I'm just playing this back online
um
In the meantime like yeah your f-150 your f-150 will cost if not you 25 percent more
They're gonna cost someone 25 percent more and that's gonna be
Eventually like what is an f-150? I feel like we're asking the question. What do cars start at right now?
But I'm gonna look up. What is an f-150 like a basis fuck f-150 start at right now
I would also like to shout out. Um, so trump has been to the ford plant this year
Uh, we
You gotta call the pedophile protector by king thomas saboola who again as far as I know still has his job
Uh, and the president his brain is mush. So I think
Thomas saboola victory
How much is an f-150 cost you're making your face?
It's so it's not as bad as I thought it was. Um, the 2026 f-150
starts at
39 330 so let's just call it 40 grand
So sure, you're okay. It's with tariffs next or later this year 50 starts at 50
Well, here's the thing right is that like global economic collapse and the the uh, the
Implosion of the american petrodollar means it's gonna be really hard to guess what uh, why is this still here?
Well, because the f-150 lightning is like they they like to keep it on the website as a reminder of
What we once had what woke one brought us
Well, I can ask ford ai to search local inventory for one. Oh my god
Oh my god
Shapes place shapes plays
Thanks for the helpful hint that your fort mustang gt3 is not a street legal car that I can buy from you. Thanks fort
Thanks buddies. Um
Anyway, that's that's that's the victoria scott written episode. I mean everything is bad
Everything's not great, but also like
It is
It's really a great, uh, germans of fake language as we've uh talked about a little bit on the the show account
Because I was trying to check the times for an nls race while I was sick
And I got flashbacked with nerbergring tv saying proudly that we're suckin dick
Which I know that's not how it's pronounced
But uh, I love that german fort. We're looking for you for in like a job hunt comp
context is we're suckin dick
Uh, which to I say the nerbergring could say faggot. It's fine. Uh
But like I
Shorted proud is one of those great concepts. That's that was a delayed reaction. That one took you a second to process
Yeah, I just I'm just I was trying to like may have some kind of come back and I couldn't I just laughed
uh, uh, uh, uh like
I don't like
It is one of those moments where I feel like every single automaker
Is in a point of crisis even if they're still like doing good
like
except for
And this is going to sound crazy because of the history of these companies
Somehow all of the italian high-end boutique auto bakers seem to be fine. Yes, they're doing great. Ferrari's Rolls-Royce is
Absolutely killing it right now. Ferrari stocks incredible
Aston martin got this this isn't worth like a full show note because uh, no actual details exist about the car
Aston martin was testing so
Insane amalgamation between an lmp1 car or the the valkyrie and an f1 car at silverstone
Yeah, that sounds right and it's apparently people like oh, maybe it's like a limited model
Or maybe it's like a new like maybe they're replacing the valkyrie for like hypercar
Maybe they've decided that actually like it's not worth doing the valkyrie because without a hybrid. It's just kind of like
It's it's a one-off for one guy
And because you can exist off of that as an automaker like
as an automaker like
yeah
scare quotes on automakers a good
Aston martin doesn't make money and will never make money and it is actually imperative that the british state should owed aston martin
Therefore it's like a public good like it's fine
um
As as uh extremely cool, dude, uh, and one who person who gets it matt ferro wrote in an editorial for uh, rodentrack this week
I think
Um
automakers are just increasingly like well, shit
Why would we bother making a thousand cars that we make a hundred dollars on we could make 10 cars that we make a million dollars on
That's we make way more money that way and like that is again. This is like
The problem with capitalism as a model because this is naturally the incentive
No single person is like has caused this scenario to crop up
But if you let people accumulate enough wealth, this becomes like the incentive
And so everything is like this it's increasingly like either you roll around in your like 15 year old shit box
That you maybe can't afford to put gas in uh, or it's like it's like you live in a world in which everything is catered to you
luxury dining is awesome like luxury hotels are awesome
like
But you know the yacht industry is booming rolls. Royce is taking more personalized commissions than they've ever done
They've got like an entire fleet of artisans in house to like make
People's fifth and sixth rolls Royce's customized to exactly their whims
They've got paint colors. They've got entire paint colors locked down for specific families
Yeah, like it's just they the the comfort that these people
Live in while the rest of us are increasingly pushed to the margins
Are insane and I guess that's I think part of I guess if you want to tie the whole episode together
That's part of what drives me batshit crazy because the people who run these corporations
See themselves as part of the set of people who will be doing well forever
And so do not treat the like threat to destroy a civilization is a serious one that will impact them
And I see myself as much more in common with you know
Average people a palestinian whose you know house was destroyed, uh, you know any any imperiled person on earth
I'm like I fundamentally sympathize with and and empathize with them because like that's you know
If your net worth is not eight fucking figures
You have more in common with your local unhoused person in your neighborhood than you do
That's correct billionaire and I said eight figures
Like I'm in the world. I would even go to push to nine at this point. Yeah, because guess what like I seven finger like seven figures
That's like a you're a dentist who did okay for the rest of your life like a million dollars. Yeah, not it's because
Also, like get cancer and don't have insurance
Yeah, and you will very rapidly find out how fragile everything is and it's just I don't know as somebody who has been in that
Like ridiculously precarious situation repeatedly throughout my life
Um, it is impossible to not look at like the model of we can simply
We can simply kill whoever stands in our way and not be like this is horrifying
This can't be allowed to stand and then sit at home and be like, what do I do?
Um, and I mean, I guess like the best strategy
I have that I can legally suggest is that if you work at Ford and Donald Trump comes through your workplace
Call him a pet a file call him a pet a file protector
It makes it really upset. It makes it really sad
It may he gets so mad and you literally can keep your job that that is the one thing I can suggest
Uh on this show and not
Because everything else I can't say this is the problem too is I can only bitch about things
I can't actually say what I think should be done because we're way out of the zone where I could say that shit
And if you work for Ford tell your dealers to stop putting mustangs in malls
They're sad they want to roam free
Don't fence me in that should have been when I realized I was getting quite ill is when I was like
Putting a hand on the Mustang in the mall and developing empathy for it because it cannot be outside
Yeah
shoving a Cinnabon into the bonnet
It was a it was a great post though. Thank you. I my brain was already boiling. I think
I
I
I think there's always things to look forward to
um
Sure, there's a thing that I look forward to and I think about an onion article as a uh, I
I will do I I have I have ridden my bike for miles while thinking about the onion article
About lowering Donald trump into the grave never to be seen again. Like I I've held to that onion article for so long. I um
I know
But that guy wrecked my fucking entire 20s and is on course to do it again for my 30s
Yeah, yeah, and of course like he didn't wreck it personally
Like I mean I still got married and I like, you know had many joyous moments. We met my life continued
But like I am so goddamn tired of having to live my life like this a quarter mile at a time
I I um I I I've made a therapist really sad a couple years ago
Oh, no, and then that's when you know, you you won. Uh, you've defeated him
in the
In the uh, is when I just said I stopped making five year plans because every time I put one together
It has become a recipe to hurt my own feelings
Yeah, basically
So my five year plan is to be dead
We've got to get you we've got to get the higher than that. Uh, so, uh
Victoria
I think that's an episode and boy. Howdy. I hope so. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah
I have shout outs. I haven't had something out on the cover really quick. Good. Thanks. Um, because
Yeah, good thing again life continues on
Um, I wanted to shout out my my new friend Eve and her dad for bringing a really cool 66 4 to f 150 or f 100 rather
Um to the port of Seattle so I get cool pictures with it with my new friend Sula
They're really cool because I got shot up. I got shot on four by five. I'm so excited to see those
um
But like yeah, I posted the digital ones and they were really cool and it was just it was it was her birthday
We went and you know hung out afterward. It's really nice lady
Um, and it was just it turns out it's cool to model with cars
Who knew somebody should do a book about that. Yeah, weird. That's that's really weird. Victoria. Yeah, um
Eve does make music. I don't know if she's got any currently up, but I'll I'll check and if she does I'll put it in the show notes
Um, because she it was really it was really just cool to meet her and like get to like
Feel adjacent to car culture in some kind of way besides like pointing and laughing at Volkswagen tripping over itself
Um, and then the other thing that I wanted to cover is a reader
Uh emailed me this week to let me know that um, this is just relevant for people in washington
The state of not the district of colombia
um
There is a state rail plan that was added for this year and currently it is open for public comment and
It is there's an article from the urbanists that kind of like it goes into more detail about sort of a call to action on it
but basically, um
If you're familiar with our regional rail the sounder, which again every time it comes up. I have to say that is the name
I thought you were I genuinely I thought you were joking last time it came up. That's why I did it like I was just like
Yeah, that's a good singer. Uh, no, that's crazy. That's crazy. What it's called. It's a f 59 ph
Painted with sounder and big block letters all capitals
Yeah
It has dedicated sound transit actually owns some of the rails the point defiance bypass
Which is familiar with the podcast while there's your problem. I did an episode about that
Um, it doesn't matter specifically just know that they own some tracks somewhere
But most of their trackage is owned by a burlington the northern santa fe
um
And freight rail in this country is a goddamn disaster and the freight rail takes priority
And dictates a lot of the ways that sounder can operate which is part of the reason why as I have bitched about on this show
I think last week or two weeks ago
We get regional rail that is like just a commuter service that sucks
And we don't have any like possibility of having a service that is like an actual like
Urban connector that could serve to like thai bellingham and seattle together or seattle in portland or even
all of those cities all the way to vancouver
and so
I if you're if you're living in the state and you care about this kind of stuff
You should go to the washington state rail plan, which I will of course link
And in the public comment you should tell them to give soundtrack that they should prioritize getting dedicated trackage
So we can have regional rail
That like runs at higher speed than freight allows or runs more often than burlington northern will allow us to
um
And uh, yeah, also if you see stuff like this in washington, or I suppose in pittsburgh specifically that is uh
You know a call to action where we could maybe do something good in the world. Please send it to me
I love doing that. I love to tell people like hey, you should be aware of this and you should go check it out
Because I'm very depressed and doing good things is the only way that I can get out of bed every day
So this helps. Uh-huh. I um
Yeah, if we can ever if we as a podcast can ever use our platform for good
Please let us know because we would love to yeah, I can't do everything on here
Um, but I will try. Yeah. Yeah, we can't make we can't
look
We'll see what happens at the free of 250
Uh, but I I can't I don't think we could I don't think we could do a whole hell of a lot. Um
But I I do think that this is worthwhile and also like
genuinely
I am going to ask
Everyone who listens to this show and has a part in it
Uh, including you victoria
Go do something with the people in your life who help you get out of bed
And talk with them and see how everyone's doing because I feel like this is one of those weeks
Where all of us have to keep going through the motions
And I think it is becoming
Increasingly difficult to do so
Uh, and yet some of these people wake up and they're like, you know what?
I'm gonna get up. I'm gonna put on my shoes. I'm gonna walk into an interview. I'm gonna say 800 horsepower qx qx 80
It's how they function. I missed the step where he also like probably uh, this might be libel
This is a parody parody parody. He probably drank like
Four fingers in jack before saying that and he was just like no one will take me seriously like that 800 horsepower qx 80
Whatever
Uh
So yeah, uh, do something with the people you love start a new creative project
Go out and enjoy this spring and this summer and
Just be safe. Uh, if you're not feeling safe, there are people in your life who want you to be okay and care about you. Um
Yeah, this is true create a third space do uh, I'm gonna just start doing the eric andre show the move to philly
Get six or seven rubates make salsa together
like
Uh
If just just do something
Um, I I spent a lot of this weekend laid up wishing I could be going out and doing things. So
Uh, because I know I will say like going
Going out and doing pictures with uh, sula and eve was really fun. It was very enjoyable
Uh, the photos and I did I did develop the role of pictures even though I didn't scan them yet
And I did get cool ones. So I um, I was very thankful to see you were scared some of your scads from your texas laika
Uh, and now unfortunately, I saw how nice media format looks that I went
What's the texas like uh going for these days and would you believe it? Not that much money for a uh,
a weird cool vintage camera
They are relatively cheap for how absolutely great you could buy 10 of them for the cost of one x pan
10 of 10 of them
I
Just walk around with like 10 different cameras each load with a different film
Slip a fucking disc because that thing's heavy as fuck. Uh, yeah, uh
I also was going to say um, one of the last thing is that, you know, we have
Our our we have our loyal patreon subscribers, which are allowing me to survive, which again, I deeply appreciate. Thank you for that
Which I might I might need to be relying on here soon too depending on
We we are trying to we are trying to get subscribers up because now it may be a two trans women supported
Supporting podcast versus just a one, but you know, we'll get there when we get there
Um, but we have our $15 tier, which is that I read out your names
uh as a thank you
For like just helping me pay rent and being a big fan of the show
You have to god damn it. I was trying to buy him shirts to you
We also this is probably the last episodes that's going up. Well, the shirt pre-order is still live
Oh, yeah, but I was gonna read it. I mean like, yeah, we do have shirts
Pre-orderable at store trans trans girl ismo.com
I will put those in the show notes. I those pre-orders close for 20 and then they
I ship out all the shirts
So order by then because that's when the pre-orders close and that is the order
I am sending to the local shop that is making the shirts because again
I believe in trying to
De-fetishize my commodities as much as possible. So I can't ship in here mother fuckers
I did try to look for like union made shirts, but it isn't really difficult and becomes rapidly
Expensive in a way that I was like, I can't
Single-handedly do this at this stage of my career, but I will try to very hard
Next time make us more popular and I can be more ethical about my my make the American apparel man less of a pet like a creep
So American apparel never goes away
But I wanted to read up the names. Yes, so
all right, um
I wanted to say thank you to selectrick
Who is Liz?
I think I can just say that. I don't think she'll be mad at me for blowing her cover. Well consider gets your blue sky username
I don't think so. Yeah
Um, Josh J
John Russell
Crystal Storm, which is a really cool name
Finn Springs
Gavin Gattis who I believe wrote that very nice review about us. I do believe I do believe
Yes, they did that really good reviewer podcast when it dropped and we we hope to continue to be good to vindicate them
Gatrian Lenker
Pete I'll sparing vaginoplasty
Which is an amusing one to read out. I notably underscores underscores
I really love seeing the overlap in our patreon subscribers because killjapes bond also reads out there
Where wherever could we've gotten this idea from?
Devin reads out these names on a killjapes bond and I also hear dev
Giggling through p. I'll sparing vaginoplasty
It's a great name. It's a great name. Um wings
Wingsmith
Nathaniel Hubble who wrote our song I believe
Which we will play at the very end of this because it's great. Yes. Hopefully we won't get copyright struck for the love boat theme song
I don't think we will I don't think anybody's out trolling for like
parodies of the love boat theme song
Um
This is the username. Uh, thank you to I victoria scott. Love porches and hate trains, which is an incredible bit
Get fucked
Victoria
I know exactly who that is and yeah, that's right. Everybody point and laugh
Um, thank you to princess Reese promises not to bark at loud noises. I also struggle with this. I understand completely
Thank you to will dexas
Jerry at homo gamer agenda.com
Nice. Yes. Also incredible. Uh, chris heppner and uh, asher in
Thank you all so much. I really deeply appreciate people signing up for this tier because again
I pay rent with it and maybe jordan will soon too. So we'll see
what the what the uh commercial appetite is for
two trans women talking about cars, you know
depressing
In one last point of view last note. That's just incredible
Hey, thank you to everyone who has legitimately reached out with places that uh, I am spending part of this next week
Legitimately reaching out to venues in DC
However, I just want we're doing the live show. I want to try to fuck it. Yeah, absolutely
Let's don't let your dreams be dreams. I wish Shia LaBeouf was a better person because that quote's incredible
um
Shout out to the hero who let me know that comet pinkpong pizza. Yes that comet pingpong pizza
Is apparently a venue
in
How
Fucking holy, honey. Would it be to be the t-girl car podcast doing a live show at
Q and on source material
Comet pingpong pizza. I I really uh
We got to call brace Belden and see if he'd come out as a guest for it. Yeah, sure. I uh, I
Oh, I'm so pumped. I um, I really want to make this happen. Um
Uh, also, um, I'm just gonna throw this out now
Uh, because I want some fans to keep me
Uh
Keep it in my mind. I'm doing I'm saying this out loud is accountability not uh saying something that will happen
um
I'm gonna do a meet-up at the pittsburgh vintage grand prix
this summer
Oh, cool. Okay. I I I I figured uh
Two trips for the show and one summer might be a big commitment for you miss ma'am
Uh as uh, we don't know what we don't know what jet fuels gonna cost tomorrow. Um
And uh, there's no train linking the great state of washington and the uh, great
question mark state of pennsylvania
Transsexual paris pittsburgh's incredible and that's why when I become a mayor of pittsburgh
I will lead our secession for both pennsylvania and the united states
It'll be like a be like a vatican situation. Yes, I I will be transsexual pope of uh, uh
pittsburgh pittsburgh, uh name again like new york
By the time this happens we'll have already had at least one schism
So it won't be that big of a deal. They threatened the pope apparently another one. I know
We didn't even have time to get into that nonsense because I try to leave catholic bullshit to the catholics, but
I've been gritting my teeth a lot this episode like my jaw hurts
Like I'm sorry this episode. Well now it's an episode we can end it this episode felt like uh,
I'll probably stop my recording after I say this but this episode did feel like uh,
You know the thing they spin astronauts around in to like see when they black out
Yeah, I feel like a job. I feel like a fighter pilot just kind of graying out in the
Fucking
I love doing this this this podcast makes this stupid country so much more worth it
Shakes
Your flickering friends
Watch them glow
As the empire ends and shapes
Will soothe all your pain
Anytime
The world breaks your brain
The shapes place
Just press those fingertips to your eyes
The shapes place
When something deep in your psyche sighs
You can take off your glasses and enter a field of light
With shapes
Like shimmering stars
Forming dazzle lines
On free production cars
Its shapes
Until woke to its shapes
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