Tired: The Car Podcast For People Who Understand That Cars Are Bad Mar 12, 2026

Episode 110: No Point Steering Now, Eh!

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World Endurance Championship

The World Endurance Championship is a big car race where teams race for many hours, sometimes even a whole day. They use special cars built to last long races, and it's very famous among car fans.

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tire testing

Teams test different types of tires to see which ones work best for their cars and the race track. This helps them go faster and stay safe.

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winter testing

Before the racing season starts, teams try out their cars in cold weather to see how they work and to get ready for races. This is called winter testing.

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season opener

The season opener is the very first race of the year in a racing series. It's important because it starts the competition.

Term

technicals

Technicals are regular trucks or pickups that people add weapons to so they can fight in wars or battles.

Car

Aston Martin Valkyrie

The Aston Martin Valkyrie is a very fast and special car that uses racing technology to go super fast on the road.

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Saudi Arabian Grand Prix

The Saudi Arabian Grand Prix is a big car race that happens in the city of Jeddah in Saudi Arabia, where cars race on city streets.

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Formula One

Formula One is a type of car racing where the fastest and most advanced cars race on special tracks around the world. These races are called Grand Prix.

Term

power unit

A power unit is the engine and electric parts that make a race car go. New rules about power units can change how the cars feel and perform.

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managing gear shifts and batteries

Race drivers have to be careful about when they change gears and how they use their battery power to make sure their car runs well throughout the race.

Brand

Mercedes

Mercedes is a famous car company from Germany that makes very fast and advanced cars, including race cars.

Brand

Ferrari

Ferrari is a famous Italian car company that makes very fast and expensive sports cars, often seen in racing.

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pinnacle of motorsport

This means the very best kind of car racing, with the fastest drivers and the most advanced cars.

Car

F-150 Raptor

The Ford F-150 is a big truck made by Ford. People use it to carry heavy things and for work because it is strong and can drive in many different ways.

Car

Ford F-150 Raptor

The Ford Raptor is a special kind of truck made for driving fast and rough on dirt and trails. The second generation means it's the newer version made after the first one.

Concept

solar array

A solar array is a group of solar panels that catch sunlight and turn it into electricity. Some can move to follow the sun so they get more power.

Part

battery

Batteries save the electricity made by solar panels so you can use it later, like when it's dark or the power goes out.

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software update

Cars with computers sometimes need to get new software to work better or fix problems, kind of like updating apps on your phone.

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Formula 1 (F1)

Formula 1 is a type of very fast car race where drivers race special cars on tracks around the world. These cars are super fast and hard to drive.

Term

reverse engineer

Reverse engineering means figuring out how something works by taking it apart or studying it closely, so you can make a copy or learn from it.

Term

air-cooled engine

An air-cooled engine stays cool by blowing air over it instead of using water or other liquids.

Term

flat four engine

A flat four engine has four cylinders that lie flat and face away from each other, making the engine balanced and smooth.

Term

two-stroke engine

A two-stroke engine is a simple type of engine that works faster but can use more fuel and make more smoke than regular engines.

Car

Jensen Interceptor

The Jensen Interceptor is an old, stylish car made in Britain a long time ago. It has a big engine and was made to be fast and comfortable for long drives.

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Russian Grand Prix

The Russian Grand Prix is a big car race that was stopped in 2022 because of problems between countries. Sometimes, politics can affect car races.

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Dakar Rally

The Dakar Rally is a very long and tough car race that used to happen in Africa but moved to South America and now takes place in Saudi Arabia. It tests drivers on rough roads and deserts.

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Bahrain Grand Prix

The Bahrain Grand Prix is a big car race in Bahrain that was stopped in 2011 because of protests and problems in the country. Sometimes, these events can make races stop.

Car

Dodge Charger

The Dodge Charger is a big car made by Dodge that looks sporty and can go fast. People use it for driving around and sometimes for racing because it has a strong engine.

Term

coolant

Coolant is a special liquid in cars that helps keep the engine or battery from getting too hot. It moves around inside the car to keep things cool and working properly.

Term

warrantiable failure

A warrantiable failure means something broke in your car that the company promises to fix for free because it's their fault, not yours.

Car

Porsche 911

The Porsche 911 is a small, fast car made by Porsche. It is designed to be fun to drive and is known for its unique shape and strong engine at the back.

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co-driver

A co-driver is like a helper in rally racing who tells the driver where to go and what to expect on the road so they can drive fast and safely.

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WRC

WRC is a famous car racing series where drivers race on different types of roads like dirt and snow, using special cars that are built for speed and control.

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EV doomer

An EV doomer is a person who thinks electric cars won't work out or won't be popular in the future.

Term

EV programs

EV programs are the projects car companies have to make electric cars. If they stop these programs, they stop making electric cars.

LIVE

Well

Yeah

How's it going I

Don't know if we're in a posse self-talker way out of this one voice. Yeah

I just took a bike it in a little while ago

So woke up with another migraine the migraines are back

Which is always fun

You know, it's funny the other nights

When I woke up in the middle of the night

In pain because that's the thing that wakes me up in the middle of the night. That's what you do now. Yeah

And uh

And I was just like looking for something to listen to and and I and I thought

I mean with the um

Then new news that um

That the uh

caudar

18 18 12 kilometer

World Endurance Championship race uh had had been uh postponed

Officially

And I thought oh

We talked about that on an episode and um

And and I went back and I found that episode is from almost exactly a year ago

And where we where we talked about just kind of uh racing in

in the middle east

in in west asia and

and kind of the the the

History and some of the implications of that um

We didn't really talk about the um

Precarity of it so much, but the thing the thing. I mean, it's a good episode. I unlocked it. I don't know if you guys noticed

Oh, yeah, I got the email on

Okay, um

I got the email whatever yesterday and I was so confused because I was like

I did you know, it's like I don't know what episode we're on

Rory came unstuck in time

And I was like was I not on this one? Like was there

Was there somebody else? No, I just um, I just thought like

Yeah, we we got it. I mean I I went back and looked and it's like oh, that's a locked episode

We got to unlock that just so so anybody listening who is not a subscriber

That's that's one that you can go and listen to for free now. I think it's episode

What was it 45 or something like that maddie? I'll link it. I'll link it in the description. Yeah, so um

it's fun little

kind of deep dive into

That world of shit, but um and we're principled. We are principled materialists

We do not let the united states off the hook for being a horrible criminal empire that sucks shit in the episode. We're good

I promise

As you pointedly uh reminded us maddie

Uh, but the thing that that kind of struck me just like like like first stop before we even like got into the the substance of

of that episode

Was just how chipper we all sounded like from like out of the game

Kind of threw out like like we're just having a really good time just chatting. It was a different time, man

It's like wow

Like are just our whole like kind of overall tone just like we sound like three different people

It was just like what happened

My first thought when I woke up this morning and realized that I had been um

alarm clocked

was

that this podcast is a

It's a record of our descent to all of our

It's like more than I mean like timing-wise like this this uh began what september of 24

Uh, and I can pretty much just track my

Is that it's like since that first episode like every

Every week is like all right rory. Let's check in and see

What do you sound like?

We're parabola. It's it's just it's just it's just like

We're like it's it's the um

What was what was the name of the the submarine that got imploded?

The ocean whatever

Yes, right. It's like our descent in

Our voyage to the bottom

Why I can't wait to see the titanic gonna be so cool. Oh hell. Yeah, let's go

Uh, let's see it's kind of uncomfortable. Yeah, these these have been our our kind of transmissions to the surface. These are the voyages

Yeah, uh, actually when vicki, uh was on as our guest and stayed after a little longer with me to talk logistics for uploading the file and stuff

she was like

now

I can't believe you're 35. You have too much

schwa to weave to be in your 30s right now

I thought you must be much younger because you kept you like your will to live and I was like, yeah, I don't know

I don't I was like, I don't know. I'm like

I got I started writing bad fiction again

And I'm in school and I'm just kind of like regressing really hard and I think that's just doing it

You've had scuff going on matty. You're the you're like the

You're the busy one now. I jinxed us. I'm getting my life together again and the world's gonna explode

I did this to us. I did this

I'm back in school and I'm on track for an apprenticeship. It's gonna take two years

What's still gonna be here in two years? They're gonna turn me into an MRE like I got no shot not me and peter

I I think there will be a space for for people who are capable of um of repairing

mechanical devices

China, please I'll know what a what a what a 516 18 bolt is in like four more months of studying on site

I promise please please pick me up. Please please please please please they don't use the 516s over there

You're gonna have to learn the other ones. It's fine. I have a little car from stare it with the con with the conversions. I'm ready to rock

I saw that this is uh

one one thing that I've always

I asked david tracy about this years ago, but I this is like a persistent

Thing from when I started working on cars

whatever

20-something years ago

It's like why are there and I know like

I know the answer to this question, but it's like it seems like you could standardize a lot of stuff around like say a set of

150 fasteners

Like here are the bolts that exist. Here are the nuts that exist here are the

applications and materials that you can make them out of you know, there'd be variants for that stuff, but it seems like

I don't know. It's always weird to me that there's like this kind of infinite

Infinite

bespoke fasteners for every single thing like that just seems like

It seems like if you had it together

You should have to tap. No, you should have to tap it yourself

You should have to have a tap and I set and make it yourself if you need to fucked up weird bolt for sickos

I think that's what yeah, and you have to make the bolt yourself as well. No, exactly. Yeah, you got it

You got to buy your rod and you got you got to get your die handle on there and you got to twist it

And it's it's yeah revolutions of one back. You got to break up your little chips in there

Otherwise, you're gonna break off your fucking tap handle like my classmate did

More on what I'm saying, but yeah, it was like uh, I mean obviously like I said

I know I know why it's not like that, but it's like it does seem like it should be like that

Yeah, be like

It's like a machine

The thing is in in I mean a big part of the reason for that is is that you have

These two systems of measurement

True. Yeah, right. That's we could fix that off the bat that would solve half of it. Yeah

Stopped us from going metric. We were supposed to go one

One that that

The entire rest of the world

Yeah

Agrees upon and uses

Uh pretty much exclusively

um and one that

That one country

Yep continues to

To insist upon

Feed in the same way

Insist upon

In the face of of

Yeah, it's kind of like those un

Resolutions where it's like

You know everybody on earth votes

for one thing and um

And yeah, we vote for two countries two countries vote the other disagree

The United States and israel have once again been the only yes votes on the bill to strap puppies to car batteries and throw them in the ocean again

the uh

But even they're on the metric we are literally

I know

Yeah, I mean even I mean it is called the imperial system, right?

It's pretty funny and that was the british empire your british empire. Yeah, even they

I'm begging

They gave up their empire. I mean they they still they they will still talk about like miles per hour rather than kilometers

but but even they have have kind of like

The uh more or less just kind of gotten with the program if we were supposed to

Twelve of something in a measurement. We would have 12 digits on our hands. We have 10 get metric go with god

But the americans were like imperial now that sounds good. Tell me more about that

I think the imperial imperial system that sounds all right

And then I get the stupid digital calipers on something to measure it. What is it? It's one point something inches

I'm still using decimals

I just

I just pulled up the uh wikipedia entry for a metric metrication in the u.s

So like the other failed attempts to bring the metric systems to the u.s

And the illustration they have is a tape measure with an inch and centimeters on one side and they have a

uh label from

Perrithion zinc dandruff shampoo dry scalp care two and one shampoo plus dry scalp protection and conditioner

23.7 fluid ounces or 700 milliliters

Thank you head and shoulders for providing this comparative measurement and for your product

That's very good head and shoulders are you looking for a podcast?

To sponsor that has some interesting perspectives on the world

Yeah, we can we talk we talk about your product. Yeah more than we can say for a lot of other products

That's true. Um, I wonder if I could just personally switch over to the metric system

We should just start now and just just rebel. Yeah, I'm gonna stop using feet ninches politically

Like like like a political lesbian. I'm just going to commit to just only metric and throw out all my rulers and just resist

Political lesbian political for metric system. That's a that's a band name

They're real they're strong. They're my friends

It's great. It's like cognitive behavioral therapy

But for telling yourself you won't be attracted to men anymore because uh politically speaking, they're bad

And you just will go live on an island. It's all women you convince yourself, which is like I respect the hustle. Why not? Listen

I was gonna say I I haven't talked to a lot of women where that's like a would be a huge thing to convince yourself of right

It seems like kind of

That's that's not that's not an unpawn story. Never mind. It was funny though

I'll tell you that guy. I think well, you can always you can always cut it. You can always cut it

It's true. The world's my oyster. I had like a mid-summer night's dream situation at the gay bar last fall

190.5 centimeters that seems easy. Yeah

Your height

Yeah, just remember that

Peter you probably be about the same. I think you were about the same height, right? Um, I'm

I've always I've always been six foot exactly

Until uh until a couple years ago and they started demoting me to like five eleven and three quarters or whatever

Hello short king. I'll tell I mean this this is a thing that that awaits

Awaits you all uh younger people

Um, and and it is one of the most fucking demoralizing things that will happen to you

Is when they tell you that you're shorter than the less than the thing that you the number that you've had in your head

for your entire fucking adult life

Join me

I don't know. No, I'm fucking six foot. What are you talking about? It's like

Nope, you're you're being diminished here. Literally your your corporal corporal form

Yeah, it's being diminished before your eyes and it's not it's not like I ever you know, I don't I don't have any any particular

Uh, you know, I don't I don't invest any part of my self-worth in in in my height, you know

I mean to me. It's just it's just like average or whatever. I mean, maybe I'm slightly taller than than the mean or whatever, but

But it's yeah, it's never been like a point of uh

You know pride for me or something but still but just like

This is how this is what all people all tall people talk about this. I don't really care how tall I am. I don't

Yeah, I guess that yeah

Yeah, if you are if you're a five six, you'd be having a different attitude about your height probably uh and it's rolling yourself concept

They don't they don't tell you guys this but actually if you're under five three and you're a dude

They do give you a little ray gun and we do zap you guys and we are stealing a millimeter at a time every time we see you

We're just not supposed to tell you

I need I need them

That would actually make me feel better like that that would be like, okay. That's fair. That's totally reasonable and exactly

Yeah, I I like the idea of of like just

fully going metric and but like to the point of

of like

Going out to your car disassembling your car and replacing all of the uh imperial

Retapping all the right

I'm gonna retread all these bolts. I'm gonna retap all these all these little spots. I'm gonna put everybody in nice and neat

Like that that would be that would be a real

Commitment, you know like that it would be a demonstration of of of real commitment your commitment

We should do that that should be a shop is as you convert people's SAE cars to all metric fasteners

well, um

Oh, yeah, what's our show?

Now we're sorry. We're chipper. Uh, yeah, it's uh, we're we're tired

The car podcast for people who who know that cars are bad

With your friends rory and maddie and me peter

This week, um

It's the the world has uh

I mean, it's one of those weeks where uh, I mean we skipped a week. Um, but in in the the intervening, uh, yeah, it's like, um

Uh, yeah days, you know like years where nothing happens and and uh, you know days where where years happen or whatever

as the saying goes but um

it's been one of those and

and we've um

I feel like I've I've often

Kind of said that like my favorite thing to talk about on the pod is

is uh, when geo politics and uh, and cars

kind of intersect

And uh

And boy, do you have they ever do you think that do you think that would happen ever?

You know, I think I think I think we started to see some some first. Um

Kind of manifestations of that. I mean, uh, like

Uh, yeah, as as I mentioned earlier, we had a race in cotter that's supposed to happen. Uh, later this month

The wex season opener. Um

Has been

Quote-unquote postponed

Due to uh the

The fact that cotter is currently getting the shit fucking bombed out of it. Um by iran

And um because it hosts a us base that uh

And is a fake bullshit country

Is it still there?

Uh, I mean, it's it's it's still there. Um, I don't I don't know that I think it's been substantially

Yeah, I think I think um the the troops that were on that base, um are hiding in hotels

That are also being struck with

With munitions to run that audio also of our of our very funny navy guy

Oh my god, that that fucking guy

That I just cannot fucking

Listen to that enough. It just the way he fucking laughs at the beginning. He's talking to his buddy on the floor. He's like

Oh, dude

And then it's just like boom. Oh shit. Oh

It's like

And the and the tag they think that the the thing that kills me is he does the fucking matt douglas at the tag

Line, I gotta get the fuck out

Yeah, it's beautiful. Um

But yeah, so that race uh is off the the um, I haven't I I saw there was a lot of talk of this as as people were speculating about it in

In the kind of run up to to whether this is gonna be

postponed

Was the fact that that the

um the cars and all of the the uh the gear the equipment uh the stuff needed to to run those cars

Um was already on site

Because they had been doing winter testing and some tire testing and and stuff and so

I also saw uh talk that like

Uh in most cases the cars themselves are kind of flown around but that the um that most of the uh kind of attendant

uh gear

Uh gets gets shipped you know goes by sea in in in containers and stuff. Um

right now

caudar is is is uh

Is is physically in the uh in the persian gulf um and um

With the straight or four moves, which is the the way to get out of the persian gulf being uh currently

um closed for business

The there's there's some question as to um how those cars and that's uh equipment

Can be uh transported to to uh to italy for the second round, which is now going to be the season opener

Um, which is only three weeks. I think it's like the middle of april

Uh three weeks after the the scheduled uh

caudar race um

There are a couple of of ways to um to get there. I mean the the um

Uh, I mean you could either drive all that stuff across saudi arabia to um to jeta

Um to port town on the red sea

Um from which you you know, you could put it on a boat and and go up through

Suez

But um

Yeah, the uh the hooties have have

Made made some noises about about possibly um shutting down, uh the red sea again

And uh, we'll see and also just getting shit across saudi arabia at this point is a little bit fraught

um the other way if you look at a map to to get it into to italy is just just going fully overland

um, which means

basically going like

uh, you know

Through saudi arabia iraq

syria turkey

Yeah, I mean

It's all pretty fucking dodgy, man. Um

Yeah, it's um

I haven't really seen much talk about that or uh if

The how how those those problems are are being solved. Um since then

So so that's kind of um

That's kind of crazy

It's fun to think about some of those cars and that equipment getting requisitioned by a

I agree a year from now seeing a um

Some wack hardware out of the uh out of the streets being operated

It's wack technicals

with like

Fire suits like the guys showing up to the battlefields and fire suits and racing helmets and uh, totally

Yeah, yeah, maybe uh strap in some some rockets to to uh

To a valkyrie or something. Um the people's car. Yeah, that could be fun. I would love that

Yeah, um, there there are also uh two

Formula one races that are supposed to happen in

In april

the

Where is it f f one schedule one of them is the the, uh

Yeah

Well the the gulf air Bahrain gp

Which is supposed to happen on april 12th, uh in Bahrain

Um and the uh the Saudi Arabia the stc Saudi arabian grand prix in jeta

There has been no official announcement yet about them. Um

But I I kind of expect to see one pretty soon. Um

I think for the first week of

Of this which is the week prior to us, uh talking right now. Um

I think there's a lot of expectation that it's like, ah, let's you know

Well, we'll see how how you know how long this runs

It'll probably be over pretty quickly whatever and and you know, we don't really see any need to

Up in the apple cart just yet. Um, I think most people have been stripped of that

In the day since

As as you know as the trump administration's estimates

Of of this war's duration have gone from like three to four days

Now like a month to

To now just being like completely open-ended. Um, and I think the the actual an actual point of fact

I think it ends when Iran says it ends. I don't think I don't think the us or israel are in the driver's seat anymore

the um

After the race this weekend in australia, they they might be glad to cancel a few of those formula one races. I think um tough time

I heard especially

Yeah, testing time. I saw I just I saw a thing. Um

The other day just because because I was looking on racer just like like for stuff about, um

racer.com

About just you know talk of what's going to happen with these these

Grand Prix um and but but I saw a thing about um

What fucking car is it that like?

Is like vibrating so bad that they can't drive it

the

Guys are like I I think I can only do like I think I only have 20 laps in me before I do

Um actual nerve damage like it's Fernando Alonso basically saying that like like I can I can do like like 30 laps before

I do permanent nerve damage to my hands

Let nando out of there let him out. Yeah, and then who is the other driver like yeah

I think he he was like I can do 15 or something

It's like whatever number that he said he was good for was like like a third of whatever

um uh Alonso uh was proposing so what happened with that did they did they just like go out and and

Race for a little while and then give up or or and what happened?

What what's the larger story with with that Grand Prix because I didn't uh, uh

I mean the big story is that the Mercedes is very fast. Um

But everybody hates their car

And um

Nobody wants to drive like they had a press conference

I guess with all the drivers like a media whatever availability with all the drivers last week and all all of them were just like

The sucks the cars suck

They suck to drive

These are these are all new cars

and it's kind of like it's not like a

Completely new rule set, but it's like like a pretty big

Kind of what what's the new power unit one?

Rule set this year. It's a new new power unit. Um

the issue that they're having is that um

It's really just become like a the whole race is just managing gear stops and batteries. So like

um, there's you know instances where like the cars are downshifting on straight

uh to

Like to get up to speed on the straight

Uh instead of like a straight being a place where you're just like constantly upstaffed

They can't get them up to speed, uh, or like you'll lose power in a corner. Um, they're just

Super dog shit cars. Um

And it's across the board. It's everybody. Yeah. Yeah everybody. Yeah. I mean the the Mercedes is really fast and like I think like

The Mercedes is

Kind of like the class at the field by a long shot

But there were instances this weekend where like, uh

There was a Ferrari that was like seven tenths of laps slower

And the Mercedes couldn't get around them because they didn't have available power

That's great. Awesome. Uh

Yeah, so it's the pinnacle man. It is the world's greatest form of motor sport

Like it's it's the best best drivers and the most

You know, I mean, it's the one race series where where

Technology is just it's not it's not restrained. You know, it's like they can really just

Let her rip pull out all the stops and I mean it really does represent, um

the the uh

The the zenith of of of what humans can are capable of

I don't actually have a um

Look at the timing, but there were people speculating that these cars were going to be slower than the f2 cars

Colton heard a whizzing by like see you

Let's see

Not great not great

Yeah, they might be welcoming some kind of uh, maybe a little

We can't race yet. Ah darn. Ah, jeez. It'll give them. I mean

Yeah, how how close to get I mean, I think those those races are yeah, they're too they're too consecutive

Weekends so if those get scratched and and from what I've been seeing

My if they do get scratched they they will not be

They will not be replaced or rescheduled. That'll just be

The two fewer rounds

But that would give them from the end of march to the beginning

It would basically give them all of april to get their shit together

They should get one before the crypto.com. My no, no, they should get one more week. Miami should explode by then

Let's let's let's all manifest. I would like I would like to see miami slip into the ocean

Before that race happens actually if we're going to just uh, if we're we're gonna wipe stuff off the calendar

Take miami 2 please

Yeah, we'll see

You look like you're looking at something uh rory's digging

always researching

Uh, uh, I'm trying to see

Uh, yeah stroll finished 17th

And

So did he go do the fall the fall race looks like he did yeah

I mean, I didn't watch it. Jesus christ. I I'm watching this. Well, I mean if he if he yeah, yeah, yeah, no, of course

Yeah, I just check uh valterian check goes instagrams

Oh, let's see. I keep up with formula one exclusively through looking at valterie botas and check out her paradise

Is that insta accounts and the cat-a-lack one?

Fernando dnf'd at 18 and botas also dnf'd

Uh, piastri did not start

Damn outie did not start

Uh, actually uh, gabriel bord uh, bordelito came in ninth on the outie. That's a pretty good result for their first week

Gabby

Little gabby on the on the on the road. Yeah, how to what uh, where did the cat-a-lacks?

One uh, how'd a checo do?

botas dnf'd and

Checo was 16 ahead of only stroll and

Alonso

Well, I know your team, it's what was what you expect. Meanwhile, I'm looking at it. The good news is

Room to grow. Yeah, now I'm looking at a video of someone who's having a much better time than all those guys

Which is uh, Daniel Riccardo out doing four uh, ambassador stuff and just not being formula one anymore. Good for him

He like he's very happy and doing other stuff

You know, I saw it yesterday. I was driving through the um old mental hospital

Over here and I saw a guy

In a black second gen raptor

Four door with a go fast campers, you know what you guys know those? It's like a pop-up camper in the back

It's like um, it's a really heavy-duty aluminum

Like rooftop tent cool

I know that there's really not like 10 grand I think um, but I was like

It's a really appealing setup all of a sudden. It's like I could just take that from this guy

I could pull him out of his car

And just take that and go yeah, and like

Gone live out of there for a long time. Yeah. I mean the only thing is you don't get a lot of

Fuel economy with that. Uh, oh and right now. I mean

Yeah, I become very expensive for a fellow like me. I have to get like a job of some kind

Um, anyway, sorry me uh fantasizing about

Grand theft auto and guy for his tent camper. Yeah

sick camper

How how are your uh personal?

Oil reserves at the at the compound

We got plenty. I mean we we could probably go another 20 30 years

In the thanks to you up here

Once we get the refinery nothing running. Uh-huh. It'd be a while

Yeah, and is that is that mostly light-created or

We're no we're using the we're using the shed. That's what that's what the um

That's why the refinery thing is taking a little bit longer, but the engineers say we can be up and running

seven to ten days

But we're really waiting on that fusion material I think that's the right is

Once we get yeah every time man. I actually

back when um, I had

Uh income we when we were building this house. We got this quote

to do um

Huge solar array in the yard that was like motorized

Um, and then it would back up to a huge set of like basically school locker sized batteries

Motorized in the sense that like the the panels would pivot to follow the sun. Yeah, and it was like um 40 grand

and I think like 37 of it would be

federal and state money

Yeah, and we didn't do it because we didn't have like the money to front at the time because it was like we just

The house and started the construction

a man, I wish I like that plus the

Rivian it's like that really is like permanent

Like you'd be fine. You know what I mean like yeah the grid was gone. You'd be fine for a long

Yeah, the rivian would would probably be like I need a software update

I can't I can't drive

But you'd be yeah, it's all right. You just you you you just take the batteries out of it and put it in something else

Yeah, you put you put it in you put it in the in the in the in the in the in the pickup. Yeah, yeah

But yeah, we really should have done that that had been pretty nice right about now. Anyway

Um, we're talking about oh that australian grid pre. Yeah

Yeah, so yeah, it seems like formula one. They should just

Take a break think about this think about what they did. Yeah

yeah

I you know, it is very funny to be like

The drivers who are like uh

Complaining about how the cars aren't fun to drive

I guess it never occurred to me that a formula one car a modern formula one car would be fun to drive

Like it, you know what I mean like that. Yeah, it doesn't seem like a fun

But it seemed very clinical and very like impressive and fast

But it doesn't seem like like every time a formula one driver

Gets gets in another car does like a another race in a different series

They're like, oh my god. That was so so incredible. You know what I mean? Like that was so great like anytime

I can't imagine that it would be fun in a way

that any of us

Would register could experience as fun. Yeah, I can't I can't imagine

that

That for for those drivers for guys who who are

Who are capable of of just who have that skill set and that level of of

Of proficiency with with with those systems and and also just with the physicality of of operating those cars

um, I could see where

Like on certain circuits just like just utterly ringing those cars out and getting getting the the

maximum out of them

would be fun just like in a in a in a way that it's just like

Satisfying to to do that and in anything. Yeah, but but would also just be like

So blindingly inconceivably fast that like that would be fun too

I always imagine it's like being a like playing like f0 or like one of those games where you you're you're right on the edge of

Not being able to perceive what's happening. Yeah. No, exactly. Yeah, really

Yeah, that's the thing. It's like my brain my brain. It could could not possibly keep up with

With even just like what they're seeing let us react to it. You know in real time

But um, I get motion sick when I watch 60 fps youtube videos

I would not do well in the f1 car would not go good for me

If you're in the car, it's different. You know what you're feeling everything

But yeah, no, I I

It's very funny to be like, yeah, this isn't any fun. It's like, well, that's why they pay you. It's a job. Unfortunately

Uh, most of our jobs are not fun. This is what it's like

Just so you know, yeah, well, I think most of them would would readily acknowledge that I mean

No, I'm just joking

They're being alien they're alien from their labor is what I'm saying. They're like, uh, that's yeah, they're like, uh

Yeah, it's not fun. Uh, they have to incentivize me to be here for some reason. It's like, um, that's right

I wonder why the job

Yeah

It's almost like you're you're doing something that's not fun to you in exchange for the money that it takes for you to live

Eighth generation prince of uh, whatever

It's arrangement that that no one in your immediate circle is familiar with but uh, what happens is a lot of times people have to

Receive money in order in exchange for doing something that they don't believe is fun. That's the uh, it's usually

Yeah, let's see arrangement or or maybe even don't believe this is um

Yeah

It doesn't really morally compromise them in a way. I don't think it's good in the good versus evil sense of the word

Yeah, um

I did I did um

I did also post a thing to to tired as I saw listeners

might have might have seen uh, just about uh, the cancellation of that that cotter race. Um

but also

Uh, kind of tying it into I was I was I got I got curious just like watching those those videos of those iranian drones

The ones that are that are like, you know, that sound like fucking moped

And um, I was like, what's the deal with those things and and I looked looked looked it up and um

Those are those are the the Shahid

136, um

And they're they're just like these little

cheap delta wing

drones

and um

That are you know, I mean they've they have like thousands of them. They're very inexpensive

They can they can uh do some some serious damage despite kind of their their humble

I mean

It is the first first military aircraft in a very long time that I've looked at and been like yep

I know how to build that like I could build one of those at home. Well, totally. Yeah

And but I but I but I was curious like what what is because it sounds like I mean they sound like fucking lawnmowers

You know, it's like and I was like, what is what what is powering those things? And so I looked it up

And um, and I

And I I found this this CNN story from from uh a few years ago because these drones have been

Like Russia has been using these drones in Ukraine kind of throughout

the special military operation there and um

And so this this uh this outfit in in uh in england had had you know

gotten the the remains of some of these drones and sifted through them and they determined

that

The engine that they they were using to power

these Iranian drones

was based on

stolen

Western technology

And uh, and it's like wow. I mean, what is this?

What is this like exotic

high-tech

thing that these these devious

Iranian engineers had to had to uh, you know

Somehow reverse engineer from the from this, you know, the the illicitly

uh obtained

Plans under the cover of night. They right, you know, like from from this this german, uh engine

Well, what it is as it turns out is um a 550 cc

Uh flat four air-cooled two-stroke flat four-cell

Which just fucking cracked me up 50 horsepower

It's like literally like a it's a it's a yeah, it's a scooter motor. Yes

I mean the thing is it is I mean, it's it's like

Yeah, it's it's a sob engine from from like the 1960s except it's a four. I mean it it is a four. So so we have to give them that

And and uh, and and it has four carburetors. Um, which you know, I wonder if that's like

Overlooked

I wonder if that's a um

Redundancy thing as much as anything else like because don't don't carburetors have like big problems with getting iced when they've

use them to fly these days like they uh

Like don't moderate fuels love to ice and carburetors when you get over a certain

Possibly, but I don't think these drones go very high

Yeah

I don't think I mean they're they're literally just fucking put I mean

They're fucking max speed is like it's just over 100 miles per hour

Like like these things

They're not there are they they are the lowest

Lowest fucking tech. Fuck. I mean you could build it in your backyard. You know, it's like a airplane. Yeah

and the thing and the the fact that like

They have thousands of these things. They're fucking using them to take out

Fucking billion dollar radar arrays

coordination things

Like these irreplaceable things that like like will literally take us a fucking decade

to to replace if we could even get the um

The rare earth minerals that we need

That china is not gonna fucking sell to us anymore

And and and also

Like everyone, you know, every time they they you know, I mean, it's like we are burning up all of these fucking

$4 million

Patriot and 12

That interceptors trying to take out these 20 000 dollar fucking

Drones dude. I mean it's just

Oh my god, it's so poetic

Yeah, and um, yeah, so my joke was how do you uh, how do you beat an entire field of of hypercars with uh

With 50 horsepower

And that's the answer

It's uh, yeah, it's a real

It's a real I mean, it's I think like they're they're

There's something happening where that I mean, this is like a whatever a trope from like science fiction stuff

but it's like these kind of like

You know developments in kind of like low tech

Um solutions to like new high tech problems. It's like very interesting. It's like very like what's very gorilla warfare, you know

cyber or like very like cyberpunk though too of like, uh, you know, like

What could we build in the shadows type of right? Um, they've hacked us. Yeah, I hacked us. Yeah

Um, they're hackers. They are hackers. Um

Yeah, very very good. I do like I like I said, I did like I was watching um

They're just all over social media this weekend

But the videos of them being assembled and it was like I literally could make one of these and it's like

For none nefarious reasons like would be very fun

It's like a giant

Oh my god

If I was 10 years old, I'd be like I could ride on one. I could I could fly this thing around

Totally put your dog on it, man

Yeah, I'm watching a thought bubble up here over roryson. Yeah

It is notable that um that the us

Has has copied those drones. I mean, we're making our own version of that exact

I mean, it's like like we've literally I mean the thing that fucking that we you know for for forever

We've accused

You know the soviets or china or whoever of doing, you know, like they they copied our design

The only reason they have this tech is because they just you know reverse it. They just copied us

Well, guess who's fucking copying who now?

Yeah, I hope they got the I hope they got the appropriate

Patent licensing from that german company for the lawnmower engine. Yeah, I suspect that

That ours our copies

Probably still cost, you know, half a million dollars each just because

We can't build anything for less

Yeah, I mean I just I mean I guess in closing I mean the the

The things that I kind of I mean, I'm obviously I'm just kind of locked in this fucking

Like mental loop of of just thinking about what what is going on and what is what we're doing

Nationally at the moment and

I think it's gonna have some real fucking implications man like

And and and I think

I mean like I mentioned to you rory. Um, I feel like there's there's another story

To be written about just

Because because in fact this this this

You know this codder race being being canceled

There have been other races in in somewhat recent history

That have been postponed and or canceled

Because of

political stuff

kind of most notably

The russian grand prix in in 2022

Which was canceled after the uh, uh, russia

invaded ukraine

I I also thought about um dakar because

The parish dakar was moved to oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, South america pretty notably uh in the early 2000s

That was like one of my first it was like

They're running dakar in right yeah, it stopped being dakar. Yeah. Yeah

Um, yeah, and then and since it's been been going in in saudi arabia since then

um, but um

Yeah, that's something that that uh, I would have to to add to that too

But but the thing is and and and also there was there was uh, like the 20 i think 11

Bahrain, uh, grand prix was was initially postponed and subsequently canceled

because of

uh, kind of

Uprising that was that was going on kind of arab spring era stuff

um in Bahrain

And um and you know subsequent huge

crackdown on on

That um, but to my mind

I mean the Bahrain thing that's that's not a war the the rushing grand prix thing

It was it was ostensibly because of a war, but it wasn't like

The the grand prix itself was not endangered right right. I mean that was canceled too. That was yeah, exactly

That was canceled

Exactly as as like a punitive thing of just you know saying like

Um, you know, we're not going to deal with evil countries that invade other countries

Um by you know having our races there, uh, of course, you know, that's

Oh, we're not. Yeah. Yeah, it's like wow

Is is you know did

What about all those countries that the united states has has invaded?

But um

Let's take let's take the f1

Calendar and you can no longer have

Erases in evil countries and see how many races we're exactly

You know, I mean, I guess if you've limited to countries that have active military operation, you know like

Operations that are illegal under international law or whatever that would narrow it down a little bit

um, but um

But the thing but the thing is

So so I don't really count those as being

Like cancellations because of war and you know in in in just in the most literal sense

I don't think that there has been one since the end of world war two

Um, yeah, and and I I think that the potential

Uh exists

You know, I think that this this conflict could could um could escalate very easily into being a

involve many more parties and

You know, which I don't I don't take any religion saying that but but I do think it's it's very possible

Um, I mean, I think that either on alloy or on tired we should get into like the supply chain

Slash like this

So massive, I mean, I think that that

You thought probably was bad around

In in boys chat, which has gone from tired chat to car chat to um

To uh queer attack education

And to just just us posting social media links from

Twitter uh and blue sky about this is this is very gender affirming to have a 40-something and 50-something guy

Just like throwing more chat at me 24 seven. That's great. That's like that like thank you

I feel very like I feel very involved. I feel very accepted. It's like one of the boys

It's great. Yeah, one of the this is the most one of the guy's

boys chat

Yeah, but yeah, that's the post that rory's uh, uh, uh, uh referring to is is is one where this guy just does this

like really exhaustive deep dive into

The the the very many ways that an extended closure of just just just this one thing

Just the the the closure of the straight of four moves. Um could precipitate

and and uh

And it's and it's kind of like the one thing that

um that iran really doesn't have to do

Expand any effort to I mean they can keep it closed for as long as they fucking want

and and um

And you know, I mean we can say that we're going to fucking send naval escorts

It's it's just like that's a fucking joke, man

Um, they they will be google millennium channel challenge 2003

Of you're thinking about sending your yeah naval escorts into the streets. That'll be a fucking shooting gallery. Um

but but but the thing is like this this

um just that alone

the downstream

Implications of that

Uh over the next year

Um, you know and and you know various factors on various schedules depending on on on, you know, how long the closure lasts

um, but I mean it really does it it has the potential to be something that

Would really like combine the effects of of what we saw during co vid

with uh

The effects of of like, uh, the the the you know, 2008, um

Just like credit crimes. Yeah, I've just I've just you know liquidity crisis, you know

You know never mind the the you know subsequent recession like i'm just talking about like the liquidity thing that fucking kicked that all off

That could get that that could could be replayed in in ways that would just have

Uh catastrophic

effect for for the global economy. Um, yeah, there's there's a lot of reasons why

This has not been done over the last 40 something years. Yeah

As it turns out it's not just because uh

George w. Bush's government was too woke to do it. Um

There's like, uh

Bad consequences from doing it. Yes, and and and there is you know

There are some speculating that when the market's open on money that we're recording this on sunday

um that when the market's open that like at some point

The markets will will step in as a as a regulating force and and kind of put the kibosh on the on on

You know this continued fucking up front to just you know, cry, uh, you know crimes against humanity or whatever

um, but

I don't know

They're pretty they're pretty fucking committed, man. Like I I think the I think the the um

I don't know how you put the brakes on on on just the the, uh, just absolute fucking

us israeli death drive like I just I don't know

Yeah

Yeah, so we we'll see there might be some more races that get get canceled

My point. Yeah, there might be a lot of races getting canceled as they say. Yeah, so

Good luck to all racers

Yeah, the the gold. I mean and it is you know, it's like every time that we've talked, you know

about kind of

You know the golden air, you know, we've been living through this golden era of sports car racing and it's like

Well, what could what could and I think I've actually like explicitly said, you know

I don't know if in in our chats or or in in in, you know other things where it's just like

Yeah, it seems like the only thing that could really derail this this party would be world war three

Ha ha ha

monkeys perv, ha girl

Ha ha ha

Yeah, it's fun

Do we still have to like

You still have to have money to pay more good and stuff that happens, right?

Yeah, the markets won't stop israel, but they will come and uh take your house and your car and stuff

Which is just like classic

There's only consequences like us

Oh, you know what?

Yeah

Should we talk go ahead? I do have one more car thing if we want to talk about it

Well, I was just going to say I mean the I mean the other thing that that that could

happen as a result of of all of the above, um

It's just like a massive

devaluation of the dollar and just like

inflationary crisis like in in like hyperinflation, you know, like fucking argentine style hyperinflation

We're like

I've always I've always told like, you know, my daughter, you know, whenever she says, you know

I'm gonna be a millionaire someday. I say and you probably will my stock answer

You will absolutely I guarantee you you will be a millionaire someday. You know what you will buy with your million dollars a sandwich

The candy bar, yeah, maybe like turkish lira in here

I have uh, I have one one more car story if we if we want to get it before you guys for shorty. Okay, so

uh, the rivian as you know is

Mere months away from going back. I think it goes back at least ends in june. Yeah, um

We've covered the rivian

Uh, it's various trials and tribulations pretty heavily here

I have and I did post this on alloy because I this is a genuine conundrum for me

So I don't drive the car at all. It's sitting in the driveway on the charger. I've driven it

Less than a mile in the last six months

Wow, just sick of it, huh? Had it had it

No, it's I have press cars to drive now that I have to like get through and like actually

And I don't drive very much. Yeah, I just drive like so it's like I have like when I do drive

I have to take the press car to do yeah to get any kind of review out of it. So

And the rivian is also like on

The tires that are on it are so fucking scrubbed. It's like

Um, they were not good to begin with and they're not you're not gonna be using it in the winter. Yeah, no

But it's also like they're super expensive. So it's like I'm not purchasing

A bunch new tires for a car that's going back in three months. Yeah

Or whatever. Yeah two months. Um, anyway, so

Periodically they have like a guy

Sorry to interrupt. How many miles have you put on that car? It's like 24,000 23,000. So okay, so that's that's reasonable. Yeah

Yeah, um

The car is

Sitting this guy comes up. He's there's a tack who like they'll get a message from rivian like, okay

We got to do this recall. We got to do like whatever maintenance or whatever

And they'll send somebody up and they do in the driveway usually. Yeah

The charge port door has fallen off

Which it just exposed which is why it's on the charger

But he uh, he was like, yeah, the the coolant is really low and I was like, yeah, you know

Every time I turn the car on

There's a message that says the coolant slow, but I was like, I'm not driving it. So it's like I haven't done anything to fix it

And um, he's like, well, we think it might be leaking and I was like, yeah, that sucks like

You know, why don't you top it off and see what happens?

and um, so you top it off and how does

Again, sorry to interrupt but but I saw that in in in your story and

And I was curious because I've never thought about

I mean, I guess obviously

EVs

would would have a coolant system, but but it would it would it would

It not in the same way that that a that an ice engine would right? I mean or or is it?

I mean, is it is it basically the same pretty similar? Yeah in a pump and and and yeah, I mean, it's

It's I mean, it's obviously not running through the engine. It's like heated by electricity

cooled, but it's it's it's running your ac and it's um

it is or sorry, it's it's

cooling and

Conditioning your batteries is what it's for. So it's like yeah, yeah when you um, but it's like there's you know

It also cools the motors like there's you know, there's stuff generating heat on the car

That needs to be cooled, but um

They were like, uh, we need to um

We need to bring the car in because we think there might be a coolant leak and I was like, okay fine

like I'm not driving it like you can have it for as long as you want and um,

they're like well

Is there a time when you are planning to be in Grand Rapids and I was like

No, well, why would that be?

Like what why would I be a Grand Rapids?

And uh, they're like, well, we need you to bring the car to us and I was like

No, I'm like I'm not gonna do that like why would I do that like that takes an entire day

And I've done it three times

I think at this point takes an entire day to do um because you get up and get your appointment there

And then you wait for them to finish the car and then that's what like two hours from you. It's two hours. Yeah

So it's not really the drive so much, but it's just like it's the four hours. Like it's a whole work day. So

Obviously right now alloy is beyond the skeleton crew stage. So it's like I can't just be away from my desk

during the week for that much time

So it's like

But anyway, I was like I I'm not like when would you be able to bring it to us?

I'm like, I'm not going to bring it to you. I just won't like that won't and they were like, oh, you know

You'll you have a responsibility as the owner

to uh perform certain maintenance or whatever before and I was like

No, I don't

One I'm not the owner. I'm a fucking yeah. Yeah, you're the owner

Yeah, uh, but it was like, um, you know, I was like very

Nice to the guy or whatever, but it's like I'm not

This is your car. Yeah

I don't

I don't work for rivian. Like there's not like I I'm not your employee. This is a huge problem. Yeah, and I was like

I was like, um, you know

Next time your tech is up if he wants to look at it and make sure it hasn't dumped a bunch of coolant

Like that's fine, but it's also like if it's leaking coolant you want me to get on the freeway and drive it to you like

Like what if it what if it runs out of coolant halfway down there?

Like what you know, they mean like then do I just push through and like overheat the like what are you like?

You wanted to break your fucking car. Yeah, it's such a goofy plan, but it's like

You know the guy was kind of like shocked that I was refusing to do it

And I was like, am I like out of line here by saying like I'm not gonna

Do this like you know what I mean like it

Like I would imagine most people just do it

But I was like am I being a dick like is this like a customer service thing where it's like

I don't know like I

Obviously like if if they had a dealer in town, I would drive it to them

As well. I was just gonna say if if it's if it's you know, if the dealers

You know, if it's if it's a question of driving across town

You do them the favor of of doing that. It's like, yeah, sure, you know, I'll I'll take the you know

I'll take the time out of my day

to to

You know to to inconvenience, you know, I'll I'll swallow the inconvenience and and let you fix this for me

Yeah

But but yeah, I mean fucking driving two hours fuck off

It seems yeah, and it's like

I I knew that

When I got the car I knew

That there would be times when I would have to take it to them

for service

Because it's like needs regular service, but this is like a warrantiable failure

In like this is because the car, you know what I mean? Like I didn't

Cause a leak and a coolant leak like the coolant leak happened

Because the car was had a design flaw or manufacturing flaw or whatever like it's not like

I didn't you know what I mean? Like it's not my fault

So I don't feel like I have any responsibility in this specific case to do it. It's very funny. It's like

Very funny too to try to like talk me into it like try to like convince me like guilt me into

Um, so I don't know. Maybe I'll just put it on the lift and take it all apart next time they get up here

They can be like, oh my god, like

But I was like, you know, they're like, oh well

Yeah, they were like, uh

They were like, well, you know, we don't want to do it here because we have to put it on the lift and I was like

I have a lift right over there like

Like I'll help you like

Like that is a much better use of my time than driving to Grand Rapids for any reason

But somebody was like, uh, does your lift have the capacity to do that?

And I think technically it does like it is a I think 12,000 pound lift and it's an 8,000 pound car

God is it that fucking heavy 8,000 pounds? It's like 8,900 pounds. Yeah, but it's like, uh, Jesus fucking christ

No wonder you fucking shredded those tires in 24,000 miles dude. That is crazy

Yeah, but it's like, um

Good lord. I I am very confident putting the Lada

Maybe 1,800 2,000 pounds on the lift. I'm very confident putting the 911 up on the lift 2,200 pounds. Yeah, it's like, uh

You know, you really start to try to remember pushing it a little

Like I like that immediately makes me think of like, okay the guys

The guys who I talked to when they were installing this lift

Did they seem like they knew what they were doing? Like did they you know what I mean? Like did they seem very professional?

Like if I noticed anything about this lift that would make me see, you know, think that like we should test

the actual capacity of it

Again on a car that I don't own to have no responsibility to so you just you just you just you just need some really big jack stands

To put underneath it, man. I mean, yeah

Go to harbour freight

Whatever

Ask him for the triple x

Yeah, do you have the kind of jack stands you'd used to work on a tractor trailer?

And then you just stack them, you know stack them until they

I know it it, um, I feel like I have put the I think I have put the rivian on the lift already just to see if it would

Work, I think I tried that already but standing under it

Getting it apart. I don't know. I don't know it, um

It's very funny. It's like one of those things where it's like, um

You know, however much

High-tech stuff and however much like, um, it's like whatever this cars. I didn't pay

A ton for that. I got a super good deal because they were trying to close them out, but it's a $93,000 car

And it is super high-tech and you know bleeding edge like best of everything technology and it's like

The experience of owning the car still comes down to the guy who works at the service center and it's like

Is he a cool reasonable guy or not? And it's like which is like

It's like my whole thing with car dealers. It's so funny because it's like all of this effort

In time and money and like expertise and thought goes into like building the car marketing it

Yeah, yeah, and then it's like it just comes down to some dude, right who is like all the undone

failure point

Yeah, and it's like that and

that is

The like that is always what happens. It's like all it like someone has a bad experience with their car

It's like somebody at the dealer is a dick and it's like, uh, it's so funny. It's like another

another weird like american thing where it's like, uh, these little

princes of the midwest are like, um

You know the the choke point for this billion dollar multi-billion dollar industry

Yeah, um

Anyway, we respect one car salesman in this world

only one

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I think yeah, he'd be like, why don't you take my viper for the weekend?

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Okay, open the chat. I have to hang on dirtfish. Give me the link. Oh my god

You have to you have to see the sexiest male. I think I did hear this. Oh my god

Thing is at 66. He's just he's he's he doesn't care if he dies

He's like he's my favorite. I love this guy

So someone types a thing in the chat so I can give you the link. You gotta see this. It's so good

He's he's like the iotola. He's just he's ready to be martyred. He's out there doing tire changes and shit

Like oh my god. Okay. So john canard also new zealander points. We love a kiwi

Oh, well 66 in new zealander. This is like 41

Yeah, that's true

He's this is the hottest a man has ever been he's 66 and he's out there in a co-driving and giving directions to this guy at

Who whoever knows how many the fuck miles an hour and now they're changing tires and stuff still

This stuff's real. He's so beautiful to me. Oh my god. Wow

Yeah, that's my this is my hot guy update for uh for the real heads

It'll be the oldest co-driver in the rally one field by 19 years

Yeah

I mean even that's surprising as

I'm surprised. You don't even I'm surprised there are other guys within 19 years, right? Yeah. Yeah

Yeah, you you go pretty long in rally. I mean like um oitanic and martin javioa

Just bailed out to do fam like focus more on their families and stuff

But I mean like javioa could come back if he had this guy's this guy's past those considerations. That's the thing is he

He doesn't have to you know, he's chilling, right?

He's fucking his kids have

He's like, I don't got anything better to do

66 that's awesome

Yeah, it fucking whips. I love this guy. I uh, this is like one of my favorite things

I love I love seeing like I love been Keating out there. I love this guy out there. I simply love when we get uh

It's like guys who are past silver factors. Yeah guys who are guys who would be devoted to bronze for showing up

Are my favorite guys uh in in racing. I've had enough of these uh these huge next twunks

Down here in f1, then on my business. I want to look at this guy

Hate it when people complain about gas prices because it's like

Somewhat outside of my personal control like

I just I just don't even I don't I don't I don't care

I don't think about it. I try to go in there

I'm set up in such a way that I only have to drive to the fucking grocery store and back

That's the extent of my fucking same mandatory driving

I thought about this already. That's that's um

Not my problem. I mean I feel for people who for whom it is a problem, but um, I just don't look grateful that

That it is not my problem. Like what am I gonna do not pay it? I have to put it in the car to drive

What am I gonna do look at it and be like, oh, that's too much

No, I'm gonna put my horse blinders on and hit it and not look and just fill the tank and just not look at it and pretend

It's not happening to me drive

We're just like you just gotta think of England man. It's no it's all you just have to think about it in in the sense that like

How long have you been putting undervalued gasoline in your car?

It's like you're over

However much you're paying now

it will it will

You would have to pay it for fucking 10 years before before it even like

Reaches a break, you know getting even point for the advantage that you've had over the last fucking 20 25 years or whatever

It it it is very funny to me, and I know we're like extending the episode again

But it's like I've been like on this EV doomer thing for the last 10 years and it's like

You know what will actually really help me sales is if gas is five or ten dollars a gallon

Uh, people will be fucking lining up to buy EVs. It's like man. Maybe I should have bought this rivi and I could be selling

Talk about this next time all those. Yeah all those manufacturers that have just you know for the last year

Fucking shutting down their fucking EV programs

They've got to be looking like uh, uh, hey, can we uh, what are you doing right now stop? Yeah

Can we put the why can we put those wires back in the wall?

Really makes you wonder like what did jaguar know and when did they know it like

For the companies who are still all in on the EV thing. It's like

Yep, well and the chinese it's true. That's right

A good day for all of us. It's all fine. It's all gonna be okay. It's all brother. It's all gonna be

It's true. It'll be fine. We'll be fine. It'll be fine. It'll be fine. Stay tired everybody. Stay tired

Oh shit, oh fuck

Oh my god

Dude fuck me a fucking missile actually got through oh, there's more I gotta get the fuck out of here

About this episode

The hosts reflect on the passage of time and their changing moods since early podcast episodes, sparked by revisiting a locked episode about Middle Eastern endurance racing. They discuss the frustrations of automotive fastener variety, the ongoing US resistance to metrication, and the absurdity of imperial vs. metric systems. Personal anecdotes about height and life changes add a human touch, while the conversation meanders through humor, nostalgia, and a shared desire for simplicity in car maintenance and measurement standards.

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Original notes

We're catching up on current events, but it's still the Tiredpod you know and love, as we return to several classic topics. Rory's Rivian misfortunes! Peter's close eye on the U.S.'s dwindling capacity to wage actual war! Matty's latest Handsome Guy Watch! Plus some F1 chat and a digression about going metric. Our episode about sportswashing: https://www.patreon.com/posts/123506128 You can support Alloy with a membership here: https://alloymag.com/sign-up/ Keep up with Peter's music here: https://peterpeterhughes.bandcamp.com Your producer pal Matty, who writes these, has nothing to plug. support my wonderful co-hosts ty ty ty ˖⁺‧₊˚ ♡ ˚₊‧⁺˖

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