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Episode 116: Skywalker Ranchero

Episode 116: Skywalker Ranchero

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Rivian reaches out about returning the hosts’ vehicle in June, offering options like switching to an R2 or another R1S lease while payments are behind. The conversation then shifts into Ford’s EV “Skunk Works” style development: a one-roof prototype setup with battery testing, metrology labs, and rapid validation on a climate-controlled rolling road. They dig into EV cost-cutting via cheaper battery chemistry and feature deletions, plus repairability and aluminum crash structures. The episode also riffs on the Ranchero name for a future electric truck.

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Car

Rivian R2

"Have you noticed that I've been late making payments [51.0s] on this shit for like the last, like, [54.0s] you notice that I was like three months behind on this, [56.3s] like just chill, you don't want, but you don't want me, [59.6s] you don't want me to do that. [61.5s] You're gonna create a situation for all of us. [66.3s] So, it's just chill."

The Rivian R2 is a smaller electric Rivian that’s meant to cost less than their bigger models. The idea is to make an EV that still feels like a Rivian—built for everyday use and trips.

Car

Rivian R1S

"Have you noticed that I've been late making payments [51.0s] on this shit for like the last, like, [54.0s] you notice that I was like three months behind on this, [56.3s] like just chill, you don't want, but you don't want me, [59.6s] you don't want me to do that. [61.5s] You're gonna create a situation for all of us. [66.3s] So, it's just chill."

The Rivian R1S is an all-electric SUV with room for more than two people. It’s designed to be both practical and capable, and it runs on an electric battery instead of gas.

Concept

lease

"We could just sign you right up. [43.1s] We could just put you on another lease right now. [44.7s] And it's like, no dog, like I, no."

A lease is like renting a car for a fixed time with monthly payments. You usually give it back at the end, unless you choose to buy it later.

Car

Porsche 911

"But the, yeah, although I do have the truck, I do have the 9-11 theoretically, and then I also do have a press cars while we have them."

The Porsche 911 is a sports car made by Porsche. It’s famous for being quick and for how it drives, and people talk about it a lot when discussing performance cars.

Company

Skunk Works

"This is all in their Skunk Works, their development facility. This is not like a factory."

“Skunk Works” is a nickname for a special development area where engineers build and test prototypes fast. It’s not a regular production factory—more like a high-focus lab for getting ideas working.

Term

battery lab

"but it's like they have a battery lab where they're like testing battery setups."

A battery lab is where engineers test battery systems and related setups before they’re integrated into a vehicle. “Testing battery setups” typically covers performance, safety, and how the pack behaves under different conditions.

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metrology lab

"And like they had a metrology lab where they're doing like measuring materials. Like what is the tensile strength of this aluminum piece"

A metrology lab is a measurement-focused lab. They use precise tools to figure out material strength and dimensions so parts are safe and fit correctly.

Term

tensile strength

"Like what is the tensile strength of this aluminum piece or like, I mean, it's like a complete soup to nuts."

Tensile strength is how much pulling force a material can take before it breaks. It’s a key number engineers use to decide if a part will hold up under load.

Term

lithium batteries

"But it's, you know, they use like, forget what the battery chemistry is, but it's cheaper and like less high-tech. It's not like the fancy lithium batteries that require all the rare earth metals."

Lithium batteries are the kind of battery most electric cars use. They store electricity and help the car move. The hosts are saying some newer batteries are cheaper and simpler than the fancy lithium ones.

Term

rare earth metals

"It's not like the fancy lithium batteries that require all the rare earth metals."

Rare earth metals are special materials used in some electronics and electric-car parts. They can be hard to source, which can make certain technologies more expensive. The hosts bring them up to explain why some batteries are “high-tech.”

Term

aerodynamic

"but they're trying to make that up in making it super lightweight and aerodynamic."

Aerodynamic means the car is shaped to cut through air more easily. Less air resistance can help the car use less energy. The hosts are saying the design aims to improve efficiency.

Term

limited components

"So a lot of the stuff they showed us was like just the limited components. They've been really big on like limited components."

“Limited components” refers to designing a vehicle with fewer distinct parts and simpler assemblies. In EVs, reducing part count can lower manufacturing complexity, cost, and potential failure points. The hosts suggest the company is emphasizing this approach in what they showed.

Term

subframes

"I think like they also showed the structure, like the frame, the subframes. And there are two big aluminum castings."

Subframes are structural sections of a vehicle that support major components like suspension and sometimes the powertrain. They’re typically attached to the main body structure to help manage loads and improve serviceability. The podcast mentions subframes as part of the vehicle’s structure they showed.

Term

cooling system

"there's a lot of stuff on here that feels Tesla E, like the cooling system and the way it's packaged is exactly like Model 3."

The cooling system keeps the electric-car parts from getting too hot. That matters because batteries and electronics can be damaged by overheating. The hosts are using it to compare designs between cars.

Car

Tesla Model 3

"And this like, there's a lot of stuff on here that feels Tesla E, like the cooling system and the way it's packaged is exactly like Model 3."

Tesla Model 3 is a popular electric car, and its design is known for how neatly it fits the battery and cooling parts. The hosts are saying the other car’s cooling setup looks similar to how Tesla does it on the Model 3. It’s basically a “this is what it reminds me of” comparison.

Term

intake

"and like a bunch of two big and stuff with like a huge intake that sucks air because like assume right off the ground"

An intake is where air is pulled into the car’s systems. In this context, it sounds like it’s meant to help cool something by bringing in lots of air. The hosts are describing how the airflow is handled.

Term

cast aluminum

"but the structure is cast aluminum [652.0s] to big chunks of cast aluminum."

Cast aluminum is aluminum that’s poured into a mold to make a specific shape. In crash-related parts, how it breaks and how you fix it after an accident depends on how the part was designed.

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cut lines on the aluminum

"but if it does get crunched, [677.6s] there's like cut lines on the aluminum [680.3s] that you can just chop it off, [682.1s] like with the angle grinder."

These “cut lines” are planned places on a crash part where you’re supposed to cut it out if it gets damaged. That makes repairs more straightforward and helps keep the rest of the structure safe.

Term

angle grinder

"that you can just chop it off, [682.1s] like with the angle grinder. [683.7s] And then I was like, oh, so you're like-"

An angle grinder is a power tool that spins a cutting/grinding disc. Here it’s being used to cut out damaged metal where the car’s structure is designed to be trimmed.

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super big stampings

"I mean, Tesla kind of pioneered like those super, [699.9s] like big stampings that like-"

“Super big stampings” are large metal parts made by pressing sheet metal into a shape using big machines. Making parts this way can help them be consistent, which matters for crash strength and repairs.

Term

adhesive

"a lot of car stuff now is just made, is just adhesive. Adhesive, yeah, that's true. But I was like, I mean, that's a big structural member of the car."

Adhesive is a strong glue used to stick car parts together. Sometimes it’s used in important places where the car needs strength, not just for decoration.

Term

zip tie technology

"Some of the stations- We've developed new zip tie technology."

A zip tie is like a heavy-duty plastic tie that locks down. Cars use them to hold wires and parts in place so they don’t rattle or move.

Term

rolling road

"They, we, they have like a rolling road [822.5s] that's like climate controlled [824.8s] so they can do like way sub zero"

A rolling road is like a treadmill for a car. The car stays put, but its wheels spin on rollers so engineers can test it in a controlled way. It’s handy when you want repeatable results, like testing how the car acts in very cold or very hot conditions.

Concept

climate-controlled testing

"[822.5s] that's like climate controlled [824.8s] so they can do like way sub zero, [828.2s] I think like negative 60 up to like,"

Climate-controlled testing means the car is tested in a controlled temperature environment. Instead of waiting for the weather to be just right, engineers can make it very cold or very hot on purpose. That helps them see how systems like batteries change with temperature.

Concept

battery validation cycles (charge/tow/charge)

"they said like one of the examples they gave was like, [860.0s] okay, if you tow, if you charge and then tow [863.3s] and then charge and like those cycles,"

Battery validation cycles are repeatable test sequences designed to stress a battery under realistic usage patterns. Here, the speaker describes cycling between charging and towing at different temperatures to observe how the battery behaves and degrades. The point is to shorten validation timelines by getting more information from controlled lab testing before confirming with some real-world testing.

Car

Ford Maverick

"...kind of whip around to see it. But it, it is like Maverick sized, so very small. I mean, like a Volkswagen G..."

The Ford Maverick is a small pickup truck. It’s meant to be easier to park and drive than bigger trucks, while still having a bed for hauling.

Car

Volkswagen Golf

"...k sized, so very small. I mean, like a Volkswagen Golf size with a bed. The passenger area is huge."

The Volkswagen Golf is a compact car. People often use it as a reference for size, and it’s generally built to be practical for everyday driving.

Car

Toyota RAV4

"The passenger area is huge. It's like RAV4 sized, they said. Wow."

The Toyota RAV4 is a compact SUV. The podcast is using it as a reference to say that the passenger space in the vehicle being discussed feels very roomy.

Car

Hyundai Santa

"So it's big interior. It's kind of like more Hyundai Santa Cruz than Ford Maverick. But it, the front end is..."

The Hyundai Santa Fe is a midsize SUV. It’s designed to carry more people comfortably, and the podcast is pointing out that it has a large interior.

Car

Hyundai Santa Cruz

"...it's big interior. It's kind of like more Hyundai Santa Cruz than Ford Maverick. But it, the front end is also..."

The Hyundai Santa Cruz is a small SUV-like vehicle with a truck bed. The podcast is comparing it to other SUVs and pointing out that it has a big interior for its size.

Car

Ford F150

"I think the big, I think that the big rugged, the F-150 truck EV is doomed. But I think that small, cheap, useful EV truck,"

The Ford F-150 is a large pickup truck. It’s the kind of truck people buy for work or towing, and the podcast is talking about how an electric version might not fit everyone’s needs.

Term

EV

"it's like EV adoption the first time around failed largely because the products weren't very good."

EV means electric vehicle. It’s a car that runs on electricity stored in a battery, and it needs places to charge.

Concept

EV adoption the first time around

"it's like EV adoption the first time around failed largely because the products weren't very good."

They’re referring to the early days of electric cars and why they didn’t spread as fast as people hoped. The idea is that both the cars and the “support around them” weren’t good enough yet.

Concept

policy failure

"it was a policy failure where it was like, there was not enough support in price support or costs in the hood or money on the hood."

They’re saying the rules or programs meant to help EVs didn’t work well enough. The main issue they point to is not providing enough money or support to make EVs practical for people.

Concept

charging infrastructure

"there was not enough infrastructure about investment to make it happen, make charging."

Charging infrastructure just means the places and equipment for charging electric cars. If there aren’t enough chargers, it’s harder to own an EV day-to-day.

Car

Ram ProMaster

"They're all being sold to fleets, like Ford and ProMaster and a bunch of other cars. No one buys those, no ..."

The Ram ProMaster is a van made for businesses. The podcast is saying these are usually purchased by fleets for work, not by most everyday drivers.

Car

Ford Ranchero

"Yeah. Are they gonna call it fucking Ranchero? Well, I don't know."

The Ford Ranchero is a type of vehicle that mixes a passenger car with a pickup bed. The podcast is wondering whether Ford would use the Ranchero name for something new.

Car

Ford Falcon

"In Australia, the Australian pickups were all Falcons. [2029.7s] The Utes. [2031.9s] Was there a Falcon to Ford, [2036.5s] or Futura pickup?"

Ford’s Falcon was a popular car line, and in Australia it was often turned into truck-like versions. Here, it’s mentioned as the foundation for the pickup/ute versions that relate to the Ranchero story.

Concept

Utes

"In Australia, the Australian pickups were all Falcons. [2029.7s] The Utes. [2031.9s] Was there a Falcon to Ford, [2036.5s] or Futura pickup?"

A “ute” is what Australians call a truck that’s shaped like a car up front, but has a bed in the back. It’s the same general idea as a pickup, just with a different naming tradition.

Concept

Ranchero EV truck

"Oh, motor trying to everything we know about the 31st [2049.5s] Ford Ranchero EV truck. [2051.8s] Interesting. [2052.7s] So that maybe they will call it Ranchero."

They’re talking about a future truck that runs on electricity instead of gas. And they’re wondering if Ford will bring back the “Ranchero” name for it.

Car

Buick Century

"... fucking Ford, man. You've got, you've got like a century plus of, of history to draw from, fucking draw fr..."

The Buick Century is a car model name that Buick has used for a long time. In the podcast, it’s mentioned because it has a lot of history behind the name.

Car

Ford Thunderbird

"...a was like the, the kind of 80s, like down market Thunderbird Coupe, you know, that wasn't quite a Thunderbird."

The Ford Thunderbird is an older Ford model that was made as a stylish coupe. The podcast is talking about a version that looked like a Thunderbird, but wasn’t exactly the real thing.

Car

Ford Transit Connect

"but, but I posted a picture on Instagram website last night [2151.3s] of this Ford Transit Connect, the focus-based one. [2157.9s] They're built in Turkey and they were shipped to the U.S. [2161.0s] as a knockdown and assembled here to avoid [2165.1s] chicken tax type problems."

The Ford Transit Connect is a small van that businesses use to move stuff or tools. Here, they’re talking about how some versions were shipped in pieces and put together in the U.S.

Car

Ford Transit

"...a picture on Instagram website last night of this Ford Transit Connect, the focus-based one. They're built in Tu..."

The Ford Transit Custom is a van made for commercial use. It’s typically used by businesses to carry tools, goods, or people, and the podcast is talking about it as a fleet vehicle.

Concept

knockdown

"They're built in Turkey and they were shipped to the U.S. [2161.0s] as a knockdown and assembled here to avoid [2165.1s] chicken tax type problems."

“Knockdown” means the van is shipped in pieces instead of as a finished vehicle. Then it gets put together in the destination country.

Concept

chicken tax

"as a knockdown and assembled here to avoid [2165.1s] chicken tax type problems."

“Chicken tax” is a nickname for a U.S. import tariff that can make certain vehicles more expensive to bring in. Companies try to avoid it by assembling vehicles in the U.S. instead of importing them fully built.

Concept

engine and transmission swaps

"There's a pretty vibrant swap community doing engine and transmission swaps of those cars."

A swap means taking the engine and/or gearbox out of one car and putting in different ones. Enthusiasts do it to change how the car drives—often for more power or better fitment.

Car

Ford Focus ST

"Like Ford, Ford Focus ST type stuff would be incredible."

The Ford Focus ST is a sportier version of the Focus that’s built to be fun to drive. Here, it’s being used as an example of a drivetrain people would want to swap into another car.

Car

NA Miata

"And the car that the protagonist is driving [3043.6s] is an NA Miata."

“NA Miata” is a nickname for an early Mazda MX-5 Miata. It’s a small, light convertible that doesn’t use a turbocharger, and a lot of car fans like it because it’s fun and easy to drive.

Concept

Formula One

"he was, he was a Formula One and IndyCar driver in, in the 90s and like a real talent."

Formula One is the highest level of open-wheel race car competition. The cars are very high-tech and race on tracks all over the world.

Concept

IndyCar

"he was, he was a Formula One and IndyCar driver in, in the 90s and like a real talent."

IndyCar is a top-level racing series in the U.S. It uses open-wheel race cars and runs on different kinds of tracks, including ovals and road courses.

Concept

Rolex 24

"But, but he was at, he was at the Rolex 24 in 2019 that Rory and I were both at."

The Rolex 24 is a long endurance race that lasts 24 hours. Teams share driving duties and try to keep the car running reliably the whole time.

Brand

BMW

"And, and he was at the Rolex 24 in 2019 that Rory and I were both at. And BMW, right?"

BMW is a car company that also races in motorsport. When BMW shows up in a race like the Rolex 24, it usually means a BMW-powered team is competing.

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