Episode #189 - Unscripted and RAW Again

In a world with entirely too many shows about cars, this is another Pointless Automotive

podcast.

Oh, God.

Here we are.

Back to the podcast minds.

Back at it.

A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

How are you, Chadwick?

Mind is a terrible thing to taste.

Do it OK, Franks.

Do it.

Taste.

Do it.

OK, Franks.

Thank you.

Thank you for asking.

Yeah.

No, I'm only mildly sorry that I did.

But yeah, we're just, I think we're just going to take an episode to just ramble about

bullshittery.

We've got no topic.

We're just raw-dogging it, as the kids are saying.

Those kids.

Not doing.

Those kids are raw-dogging.

The kids.

But no, that's a saying now, right?

Like, oh, I just raw-dogged that whole plane flight without my phone or whatever.

That's true.

Yeah.

That's a thing.

Because we're super hip and we know these things.

And raw-dogging the act has been there for a while, I believe.

I mean, we would have promulgated such a culture.

It's a very chicken or egg thing, right?

What came first?

Is it?

No pun intended.

Yeah.

I just, yeah.

Because how does evolution work?

Is it like, I didn't know we were going this on script.

This is where we're going.

Let's fucking go.

But at one point, was it like, where do you draw the line in the sand?

We're like, okay, this is like, this is like Australopithecus or Homo erectus or whatever.

To just like a technical Homo sapien sapien, like current person.

At one point was like, the Homo sapien raw-dogging, so to speak, a, you know, a less lowered evolved

on, obviously, I know it's not that.

At one point, at one point, did someone raw-dog a monkey as effective as the other?

Someone was more monkey than the other.

Yeah.

I've taken a fair amount of science classes.

But they were going in a different direction.

Carry on.

I've definitely had sex with some gibbons.

I prefer apes over monkeys because they're closer to humans.

But no, man, there's DNA traces that you can look at and find the difference between, you

know, Australopithecus and Neanderthals.

But yeah, at some point, that water probably got a little muddy.

And there's definitely some mixing of the bodily fluids.

And it was definitely raw.

There was no love rules back then, my friend.

Yeah.

It was just what you did.

Like, I wonder, because I've got this working theory.

Yeah.

How's that coming along?

That not well.

Not well.

But my working theory is that really for almost all of, let's just say, actual, like, human

humanity.

Sure.

Homo sapiensapien.

That we're all about as smart and fucking stupid as we've all ever been, right?

Like, we like to think like now we're like, oh, we're modern and because I've got a phone

in my pocket and because I went to a school, I'm just like, we're smarter today than people

were in the Middle Ages or in, you know, 10,000 years ago, whatever.

No, we're just as stupid and just as smart through this whole time.

It's just like, now we have phones and central heating and air versus when people

were making pyramids and we still can't figure out how they did that shit.

Or magnets.

Yeah.

Good questions.

Yeah.

Raising some real ones.

And I, you know what?

I don't want to talk to a scientist.

Y'all motherfuckers lying.

Making me pissed.

But no, like I just, we're all like, and so this is my working theory and I don't

know how we got here already in this directionless listening, listing episode of the

pod.

No, but it makes it, you know, this is a conversation I'll entertain because like

I think for me personally, I always strive to learn new things.

I've always been driven by learning new things and I pushed myself to learn new

things, but I think you strike upon a really good note there.

We do have endless information that are fingertips, cell phone in your pocket

example there.

What pisses me off is that we don't take advantage of that, right?

We instead reach for chat GBT because we can't write a fucking decent

paragraph anymore.

And that, that really frustrates me beyond all reason.

But the fact that we don't, we're not advancing ourself, even though this

information is so much easier to find research back in the day meant, you

know, interlibrary book loans hit up some micro fish standing at the old

micro fish machine.

But like honestly, the effort amount, the amount of effort you put in now

to extract any information is easier than it's ever been.

It's all right there.

There's no really room for debate anymore, which kind of sucks maybe

because that takes away our effort to think because back in the day, you'd

have a debate with a friend, right?

Like he'd say some shit that seems too farfetched.

There's no fucking way.

You would check that shit and then it would be a conversation, right?

Like were you to arrive at an answer or not?

And it was still, the debate was the debate.

Now it's right there.

The answer is right there, barring false news, fake news, sorry.

But like that's the thing, like, but then and so like, if you go back,

let's say 10,000 years ago, you know, you have smart, all kinds of smart

assholes that are infinitely smarter than I will ever be.

Like coming up with all kinds of crazy shit, but like we dismiss it

now because it was like, I don't know, so easy a caveman can do it

or whatever.

But like, and then also too, you had, you also had fucking

cave people drawing dicks on cave walls and giggling and stuff

like that, like as they should.

Yeah, like we're just today.

We are just as smart if not dumber and just as stupid as people

have been forever.

Like it's not, not it's none of this shit is new.

And I also have a theory that like if you can think, if you

can conceptualize it, it's been done.

Like somebody has done outside of like shit like interdimensional

travel, but like, oh yeah, like I wonder if, you know,

the Simpsons have probably made an episode about it.

And so I refer to that.

Yeah.

Predicting the future.

It says dead it.

Boy, some real deep thoughts with Jack Andy to kick off the

pod here.

Cave people aside.

Yeah.

What's new with you, Homie?

Anything fun?

No, I mean, same shit.

Not even cars related necessarily.

Are we, are we not even getting on the car subject, huh?

I do have some cars.

Actually, I do have some car stuff.

Oh, what you got?

So in, in Maine, where I just went my homeland, where I

went in my homeland, where I just don't have vacation.

My buddy, a good buddy of mine, he has a car that I think

is very interesting.

It's a 2017 or 18.

I think it's a 17 Ford Fusion Sport.

Oh, are you familiar with that at all?

What that thing is?

Yeah, that's the slightly smaller turbo V6 all-wheel

drive.

I think they have like 350 horsepower.

Yeah.

So it's the twin turbo six.

Yeah.

Like talk about a modern sleeper because we talk about

that a lot, right?

Like everything now, if it's a sporty car, it wears it

very brashly.

And this car doesn't.

It really blends in.

If you're not looking at the little cues, like the

wheels are different, the lip spoiler, some of the

body lines are different.

It's got like some tweaks to it.

It kind of looks like a regular Fusion.

Doesn't it say like sport?

Like slightly italicized.

Yeah, and it doesn't say like twin turbo or anything like

in the 90s.

That thing would have said twin turbo at least four times.

Yeah.

Dodge stuff looking at you.

But the Fusion Sports, I think it's like a modern sleeper

and it is quick as fuck, dude.

Yeah.

It's like it's wildly quick.

Did those have the, didn't they have like a like

a PTO issue or something like that or like the

transfer cases would implode or some shit?

I don't think with those ones.

I think some of the shows, the early SHOs, which was

a different motor.

Yeah.

Because those had three five.

Yep.

And the Fusion's got a three oh, is it?

Yep.

Three liter twin turbo.

So different motor, but super cool.

Nonetheless, I thought that was a weird car that

they at 40 even made that to be honest.

I'm actually surprised.

Yeah.

And they're super rare.

They did not make it.

I'm sure.

Yeah.

I can't imagine they sold a Brazilian of those.

So that part was cool.

Second cool car part is my rental was a brand new with

like 300 miles Ford Expedition.

And that's nothing to get excited about except this

thing had a beefy power plant.

Dude, this had the new three five twin turbo with

like 400 horsepower, 470 pound feet of torque.

Hot damn.

I think it was a fucking, why did they have that?

Why is that in a giant SUV?

It is so fast, dude.

Yeah.

Like all almost all new cars are so ludicrously fast.

We don't need almost 500 pound feet of torque in it.

It's fucking.

But dude, so I have you looked at a 2025 Expedition?

I first off does have like the big blackout panel in

the back, right?

On the back.

Let's get I can't remember.

Mine was black anyway.

So it might have been hard to see.

So but the interior has an all belong like rectangular

steering wheel.

All belong.

It's so weird, like a rounded rectangle.

Are we back?

Are we back to the the circle circle era Ford?

Dude, the late nineties.

Torres look like a concept car from the nineties.

The interior.

It's like one big screen that stretches across.

Then there's like a big screen for the infotainment.

The gauge cluster is all things, but all the lines

in the interior were simple.

Like everything was weird.

The whole center simple except for all the circles.

Yeah, it's a fucking bus, right?

So this is huge, but it's got like this

big center console area and with a switch, it can go

all the most all the way to the back seat.

Hmm, it's just it's just crazy.

But anyway, I really like the interior.

Look up the interior.

I thought it was a wonderful vehicle.

Like I was actually pretty impressed with it with it

overall.

So you're going to pick one up experience.

No, got it was 75 K was the sticker price on that one.

So yeah, to friendship boxes, right to cool twin

turbo fords that I got to experience.

It's pretty neat, pretty cool, very different.

Well, you mentioned, you know, modern, you know, modern

sports cars and stuff being outlandish and loud and brash.

Yeah.

I could have talked about it last week, but didn't really

get into it.

I'm back for moderate car week.

Hey, speaking of brash and loud.

I heard there was a Chevy Sprint turbo taking part

in some of the takeovers and side shows.

Was that?

Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Shut down intersections and parking lots.

Yeah, exactly.

Just one wheel peel and little, little 12 inch tires.

No, um, so yes, I did have the, I guess just a quick,

a quick recap, at least some of the stuff and some of

my takeaways of it, not to spend too much time talking

about, you know, because there's already a whole bunch

of media on that shit.

If you want to look into it, people use talking about

it afterwards as an excuse to go and expense it and

write it off and say it was a business case.

Sure.

Exhibit A.

You're looking at them.

Um, and so, yeah, so, um, did the motorlux thing again,

had the photo booth down for Wednesday night of motorlux.

Nice.

Um, you know, a lot of the same usual suspects.

Um, just a lot of crazy shit.

I feel like this year wasn't as crazy as last year.

Last year, I feel like people got like way more hammered

or drunk, um, and I feel like I saw less of that

this year, which is good because they don't have

like a shuttle to like get people out of there.

People just like, that's scary.

Oh, I guess I parked on this golf course.

Let me just give away too much throttle and drive

out of here.

And it's like, I don't know, I'm not a, you think

it's being run by an insurance company.

You think they'd find some other means to limit that,

but, um, I didn't hear anything terrible happening,

which is great.

Um, I will say, and so after that, I loaded

the, the, the photo booth back up drove that same night,

left like 1130 night, drove back home, got to bed

at like two 15 at a.m.

Got up at five 15 a.m.

Um, uh, drove the Chevy Sprint turbo back down

the car week, um, and, uh, drove down highway one

to meet up with, uh, our homies, um, of, uh, driving

well, awesome.

And, um, fairing up with them.

I did get, um, two takeaways there.

I drove most of that drive between Carmel and the

hangout spot on highway one, um, behind a marked

force Supra, they're all cars going down there.

So behind this modified marked force Supra.

Nice.

This was on the Thursday morning.

So the, the roads were just completely lined

with a bunch of people taking pictures and a bunch

of like, um, influencer kids and all kinds of

people.

Um, and so you drive by and people, oh my God, a Supra

and taking picture of the Supra.

And then I, then I would be the car behind it and

they would just like turn around.

Oh, what the fuck?

Like one out of every 20 people would like lose their

shit.

See, I'm that person and be like, whoa, whoa.

Turbo Sprint.

What the fuck?

That was an enforced power marked force Supra.

Oh my God.

Is that a Sprint turbo?

Yeah.

So there was, which that, so that was fun.

It was just like a very, if you know, you know

car.

Sure.

Yeah.

Or a lot of like, I love your cute little car kind

of, kind of comments, which I'll take both.

I'm both of those.

Um, and then I, so hanging out at the spot.

I got to hang out with friend of the pod.

Um, uh, Brad, Brad DeSantis.

Yeah.

Um, uh, of, uh, auto off topic thing.

Correct.

So, um, so that was great.

Um, we got to hang and talk a bunch of bullshit.

Um, he gave us a shout out on his Instagram, uh,

for the pod here, which was kind.

Um, and he's always good for quality car based, uh,

conversation, as well as all the usual suspects,

all the standard DWA homies.

So, um, that was great.

Um, and then, you know, just did a bunch of other shit.

I slept at a weird Girl Scout camp.

Um, I went to the avance party.

Um, I hung out with, um, Doug and Kenan and

Filippo and the, uh, the, my old cars and bids

compatriots.

That was fun.

Um, take aways are.

In a world down there of, um, Burble tune,

McLaren's God to and 19 year olds driving

Pagani Y-Rus for some reason and, and, and, and

that murdered out with Veyron's and, um, yeah,

like genuine, like 17 year old influencers with

like Laguna piped brand new GT three Porsche's.

Yep.

Um, the allure of the sprint turbo is real.

Like it was the perfect car week car.

Cause you get to stand out is very much a

counterpoint.

Um, it's inoffensive.

It's endearing.

It's adorable.

It's easy to park, which is great.

True.

Um, and it was like, it was truly the perfect

car week car to the point where I'd be out

like an event, right?

So let's say I'm at a, at an auction, I'll

get a text message and it'll be a picture

of my car and be from somebody I know,

but haven't talked to in a year and be like,

there can't be more than one of these.

You have, you're here, right?

Oh yeah.

Come find me at this.

It was like, it became like a, a call.

That's funny.

Yeah.

Um, and yeah, like it, it really makes me

like horny for the next thing to bring the

car week that's like going to be similar

vibe, right?

Um, you know, a perfect geostorm would be

great.

That the NX 2000 would be, would be killer.

Great.

Yeah.

Um, and people like, whoa, no fucking way.

Like, but for no money, like as a

counterpoint to these like fuel run guys

that do all this, like they, they, they wrap

their shit all crazy and, and do the whole

like a super, just the bad side of the

scene, a super clean tracker with the roof

off.

Yeah.

Hell yeah.

Or your Vitara.

That'd be a cool, that'd be kind of a perfect

counterculture car too.

Yeah.

This is something, um, you know, like as

close to a K car without actually having a

K cause that was the other part of it too

was, um,

you're driving down highway one, especially

if you go like early in the morning on like

Thursday or Friday and you get down to a

no one out.

That's a nice road to hustle down.

Oh, hell yeah it is.

Yep.

And it's too much road for the sprint,

especially if, especially if you want to go

with other people that are in their cars

as well, which I did a little bit of that

riding along, thankfully not in the sprint.

And like would not be possible.

Like there's a balance, right?

Like what would be as fast as like a 986

Boxster on good tires?

But looks like the sprint turbo or is like

that like unassuming and like counter

counterpoint to the McLaren brodozer, not

brodozer, but douche missile.

Hmm.

Like what?

What's what what fills that space?

I don't know.

You get a Pulsar turbo could.

Yeah.

Preferably not JDM though.

Yeah.

What's USDM?

I think the Glott Glott VR4 kind of fills

that void too, because it's like you have to

know, especially lightly modded.

Yeah.

And they could be pretty fucking quick

as a 1G talent or something.

Yeah.

But the Glott's like a good if you don't

know, you don't know car, right?

Like you have to know what that car is

and the people that do are like, well,

that car's got some, you know, it's got

some razzle dazzle to it.

Yeah.

3, 2, 3 GTX.

Yeah.

Yeah, I could see that.

That's not a bad one.

Yeah.

Um, but it was interesting.

Like that was that was kind of my takeaway

is like, I like that.

And that's, I mean, we talk about the shit

all the time.

That's this is what we do here on the

pod, but like, sure, when you're down

there for car week, you get to see

the very best people and cars of the

car world as well as the very worst.

Yeah.

People and cars of the clout chasing

like you said.

Like influencing crowd, like, which wasn't

a thing, right?

Like that's kind of a newer development,

right?

Like five years ago, it wasn't really a thing.

Yeah.

And I'm not saying anybody on YouTube is

bad, but there's a lot of really bad

car stuff on YouTube.

Like same.

Yeah.

There's a lot of great shit.

There's a lot of bad shit.

Yeah.

Even more so.

So that's unfortunate.

Um, big time, but it's it's not really.

Yeah.

That's not the waters we swim in for

sure.

No, it was funny though, because it

was like, um,

me and Doug and a couple other people were

just like standing on like the main on

Alvarado Street, which is like the main

street right there.

Um, in downtown Monterey on the Friday

night and the amount of people just

like bouncing your shit off the

rev limiter and like doing burnouts

dude and doing the takeover thing was

hilarious.

We were just standing there for like

an hour, just like watching and giggling

and just like, this is ridiculous.

Like there's no way.

Humbo is like this and it was just like

we were just waiting for it to turn

into a takeover, right?

Um, it's like a dude.

If it's if it's like that, it's like

a cars and coffee.

You know, it starts off good and then

you get the, yeah, I know and do

burnouts and then it gets shut down

and then it's not a car.

We just canceled, which would right.

That's why.

Yeah, like I don't whatever.

Like I don't.

If you want to have the McLaren and

do the thing and go on driver drives

with a bunch of other McLaren's

with like fuel run, like and your

Instagram handle on the side of your

car, cool, like it's not my type of

hype, but and go for it and have a chrome

wrap and and gold framed sunglasses

and be visibly wet with cologne.

You're you're welcome to do that.

That's that's perfectly fine.

But yeah, when it's like this, like

the takeover shit, yeah, because

that's going to fuck it up for the

rest of us.

And I want a place to drive a Chevy

Sprint Turbo and have people appreciate

it.

That's all I want in his life.

Um, and and yeah, and a bunch of

like burble tune or gooners.

Um, yeah, I don't know how bad is

burble like I loved the naturally

occurring burble tune that used to

happen with some cars much less

degree.

Now it's just fucking.

It's so horrendous sounding, dude.

It's so bad.

You used to have to earn your back

fires, Frank.

When your car was out of timing

or something was horribly wrong.

You had to earn my first fire.

My first car.

So my barracuda when I bought it.

It had this wonky.

Two, it was two duals with no

crossover exhaust and glass packs.

So not not even real mustang or

or mufflers, just glass packs.

So I had a 318 two barrel dual

exhaust chrome tip and it was

small.

It was probably inch and a half

exhaust all the way back with

chrome tips and glass packs.

And so yeah, come in, you

know, de-accelerating coming to

us.

That's just what it sounded like

because that's what glass packs

did.

Yeah, I got rid of that fairly

quickly.

Yeah, it's it's rough.

But yeah, it's car week is an

interesting thing and it's

interesting to see it change

right because like however

many years ago it was all like

pre-war shit and like occasionally

like somebody in like an 80s

Ferrari would be there like a

thing right and now it's like

come full circle and it's like

a destination for people to flex.

Yeah, you know, you know, you're

just sitting down on the side

of the road and like three

Brabus, you know, G 806 by

six squared G wagon pickup

trucks roll by and it's like

with like neon green leather

interior and you're just like

somebody spent whatever

$890,000 on that car.

Mm hmm.

And now there's three of them

and it's not about

it's not even about like none

of that shit is about cars

or car week really.

Yeah, it's just about like

conspicuous consumption and

then like

just I don't know finding new

ways to be extra conspicuous.

But it's like having a vacations

simply

to flex is a bizarro concept

to me.

It's weird.

But hey, we're going to do

this thing and we're going to

and these people are like

trucking.

They're like air freighting

their cars out from places

so they can drive it around

and flex on people

and they don't know the first thing

about cars.

They like to think they do

what they don't.

Yeah, that's usually

and just going to various parties

or I don't I don't know.

It's not a world I'm in

or care to be in.

But it's funny to see that

kind of shit and then like

some crazy like provenance

like pre-war race car drives by

and that cars got you know

whatever's been driven by like

Sterling boss or whatever.

Yeah, sure.

And then my little shipbox

rolls past

you know and then maybe some kid

who's got his grandpa's fucking

Alfa Romeo and he's like really

excited to like take it out

and share family time like

the dichotomy of the whole thing

is crazy.

The different directions it all goes

and

yeah.

So now I want to I want something

weird and fast.

Yeah, those are that's hard

to fulfill both those boxes.

You know what it might be

but it's it's actually

too like genuinely cool.

But if you really think about it

the answer is probably FDRX.

Yeah, not cheap.

If you look at the no

but if you look at the powertrain.

Yeah, it's a weird fucking machine.

They're cool as fuck

but they're really really cool

like that's a that might be

the most attainable

like of my like poster child

cars as a kid.

Other than maybe just like a C4 Corvette

which I want.

I want a 3 are like a clean

3000 GT VR for

I still want one of those

even though I had the South

Twin Turbo which is like

the exact same thing.

I still want a clean

3000 GT VR for early one

active arrow.

Yeah, all that good stuff.

I still think that's it

and I know it's never going

to be the best.

Definitely not a track car.

Barely a Canyon Carver.

But I just I have

I think they have so much presence

dude and it's such a cool car to

like the early cars that said

like the very very very last

year with like the gaping maw

and the big wing.

I think those are

those are pretty sinister looking

like but those are really clean

one of those on like tees

or something.

Sure.

Cool car pretty.

Yeah, they're pretty capable.

Like I'm not going to lie

that South Twin Turbo was

plenty quick for a 91

or whatever year it was.

You know, very quick car

same as 300 ZX Twin Turbo I had.

That's still a very modern car

fast for 1990.

Yeah, you know.

Yeah, those are good.

I just I don't know.

Here's the thing though.

I don't spend that kind of money

to get like I'm trying to think

of the cheapest you can spend

to get a good FDR 7 35.

I was going to say 35 is probably

the floor right now absolute floor

and it's going to be one with

some miles, which is a scary

proposition on those cars.

But maybe a little cosmetic.

Yeah, this is called a 40.

Yeah, 40 is where you're going to

be. I don't spend that kind of

money on a car.

I just don't.

But if I did, right?

So let's say I sold a gaggle

of shit boxes, right?

And I pile on my money

and I have $40,000 from selling

a bunch of science scientific

term when you have a bunch

of shit boxes as a gaggle.

That's correct.

It is.

Yep.

If they were all like full

size shit boxes, then it

would be a pod.

That's a different fare.

There.

Yeah.

The if I'm spending that much

money, which I don't do, but if

I was because I don't spend

that much money, I would need

it to be like the perfect

spec, which for me, I actually

don't care about like the R1

or is it a touring or is it

or whatever.

Fair.

I want it silver.

Red interior.

Okay.

Good.

That was good.

That is my spec.

That is the one I want.

And I don't know how many I

I don't know what if there

even is a breakdown like color.

I feel like I don't see that

many silver ones.

I see a lot of Montego blue,

a lot of red, a lot around

handfully yellow.

They look good and white too.

They do.

Yeah, got good.

Do it's got a great like

body shape.

So it always looks good and

white.

They look kind of good in

all colors.

I feel like you go blue

is the one I should like,

but I actually don't really

like that color.

And I like so I like Montego

blue with the tan leather.

The light tan acceptable.

That's a very, very tasteful

combination.

I want silver with red and I

don't know if I'm ever going

to find find one.

And now that I said it,

if I do find one now,

I have to like sell an organ.

They are, you know,

I don't have a fear of working

on a rotary or messing

around with that kind of stuff.

I'm cool with that.

That is a good car though,

dude.

I think an R7 is a cool car.

I mean, I would argue it's

the I think it's the most

beautiful car of the 90s.

Oh, stop.

And I would say it's up there.

I would say it's a it's a top

10 most beautiful car ever made.

Hmm.

Maybe top five.

Wow.

Like I think it's just a

an outrageously pretty car.

Um, have you ever seen

a 1990 Chevy Corsica?

Oh, in my mind,

every one of those is that

like dark blue with a

blue cloth interior or teal

like mine was.

Oh, you had a teal one?

I had a teal one, dude.

Oh, she's 90, baby.

Yeah.

God damn 2.2.

2.2 92 horsepower automatic.

Unfortunately,

let's go.

Yeah, that's a good question,

man.

What would I what would I buy?

I don't know.

I'd like to buy.

See, I tried at one point

to get all the hero cars,

right?

I wanted like the NSX.

I skipped the super

because that was already

crazy fast thing.

That was like my pinnacle fast.

Poster child car and they're

so beyond unattainable.

But the NSX,

you could say the exact same

thing about the NSX.

When I bought mine,

I paid what 35 K for an NSX,

which was the going rate

when I bought mine.

But now if someone tells you

they bought a 35 K NSX,

you're like,

you either rip someone off.

It's a salvage.

Even a salvage title.

It's hard to get one under 70.

Yeah, they're right there.

They're right there with each other.

Um, but the 300 ZX twin turbo

is another bucket list car

I wanted to own own that

stealth twin turbo kind of scratch

the VR for

3000 GT itch.

What else have I owned?

E46 M3.

That's kind of an icon.

Um, I don't know.

What else is out there?

I'll never own a 911.

I'll buy a 996 someday.

Just for shits and giggles.

Probably a avert.

Yeah, not like

I like inflicted on 911's

because any I've driven a bunch

in all different flavors

and they're all very, very, very good.

They're all super competent.

Almost to a fault.

Yeah, um, to where I'm like,

I don't know.

I don't want to say they don't do

anything for me because they're

they're all great cars.

They are great.

And if they were way cheaper,

like on paper,

right?

If you if you let's say you took a 997

Carrera and you're like

actually, you know what?

There it's actually not a Porsche.

It's a it's a Honda product.

Yeah, that'd be the craziest fucking

holy grail Honda product

you're ever made.

Absolutely right.

You're absolutely because it's like

Porsche and they've been making

that forever and there's the whole

Porsche scene and the Porsche Club

of America and all of the things

and the the the optional stitching

and PTSD fervor and look

at Colton, all of the shit

that goes along with Porsche.

It's just like, you know,

but they're great cars,

but like I just I don't know.

I the problem with the 996

Carrera is probably the only affordable

911 nowadays.

But do you do that?

Or do you go with the better driving

Cayman S

for similar money?

There's that too, right?

What do you care about more?

Yeah, obviously, or even a 986.

I rode along in a 986

for a blast on the highway during

car week.

And

and this is not news

on a good twisty road

on in the hands of a competent

driver.

But you're running down everything

in one of those cars.

Sure.

That's it.

And this was on like old

Milestar tires, like not good tires

and just like getting point buys.

Yeah.

And so it's yeah.

That's why I like the Cayman S.

I think it's the came with a great

motor. It's way more rigid.

Now they're pricey,

you know, unfortunately.

They're not that price though.

He was a miles on it.

You can get one for 20.

No, you can.

I came in as to manual.

Yes.

With some miles, say 120,000 miles.

I don't think so.

A lot of miles for one of you better.

You better check it out.

I will.

I haven't seen one under 30 for the

longest time.

That was not salvage or not modified

into the ground day out there.

And if you want if you want to

get a base model, which is still

good, less power, five speeds at

a six speed.

Yeah, that's a big difference.

Those are still those are still

good cars, too.

They are but no came in as manual

early one.

No way.

They're like 30.

I'm a fine one.

I'm a fine one, bruh.

Yeah, bruh.

I bet you won't bruh.

No, they are.

Yeah.

It's a great car.

If I was going to do 9 11 and be

an earlier car, probably an

air cooled car.

I'm not air cooled guy

necessarily now way too much

money for it.

They are well.

No, right.

Again, like if I if I much,

you know, a spoiler alert,

I did not win the lottery

last week unless I did and I'm

slow playing it find out.

Earn slow.

But if I did, yeah, like,

I don't know.

I just and all the news 99 ones

and newer, they drive

they drive great, but like

they're big and like,

I don't know.

I don't they are huge.

Yeah.

You know me.

I'm like this.

I've got this weird vanity thing

about like.

I don't want to be seen in a car.

That's good.

That's a car hipster.

Yeah.

No, for sure.

Right.

Like I'm I'm just.

Yeah.

I don't know.

I'd like every I'd like to have

everything before they were cool.

Yeah.

So yeah, I just I don't

I don't know.

Yeah.

And came into good boxers are great.

Great cars.

Yeah, I don't

I don't know FD

FD is good.

FD is a good car.

They're not going to get any cheaper.

So yeah, if you're going to jump in,

you might want to secure one.

I'd like an FC turbo.

I kind of like this a lot.

Those are cool.

They're not super cheap anymore.

Remember when I find them?

Remember when 944 is for cheap too?

944 turbos.

Boy.

Yeah.

I don't know.

I got to fix my gala on up.

Zero one would be kind of fun.

If I fix that thing up.

Yeah.

Silly kind of silly and fun.

Yeah.

Dippin back in the last week.

Like finish.

We should just not talk about buying shit

and just like move shit on.

I agree.

Or maybe I'll just rotary swap this to tarot.

Do it.

Yeah.

Oh, wait.

Yeah.

So I saw the craziest thing for sale.

I was.

Oh, where was this?

On Craigslist and all the places someone took a fiat.

This is great.

This is actually perfect for a non-scripted episode.

Someone took a 500 e fiat.

So not a Mercedes.

Yeah.

So the 500 e, you know, the electron.

It's a fully electric car.

Mm hmm.

That notoriously will have 20 miles now with the

degradation of the battery.

But it just won't.

Yeah.

So they did.

No way.

A Jixer.

Fuck yes.

Motor and they did it.

It still has like a clutch.

You have to you have to hand clutch.

Sequential.

Yes.

Yep.

And the scariest part is reverse is motorcycle reverse.

So on flat, it can kind of reverse, but up a hill.

Oh, you got it.

Yeah.

You got to hit the starter.

I just drove a fucking.

What was it?

It's a Birkin, which is a brand that makes like catering reps.

Mm hmm.

And so a catering with like a Jixer, whatever was 1,100

motor in it and the same in a sequential with the with

a clutch, scary as fucking thing.

Yeah.

So this is in a 500 e front wheel drive little hatchback.

That's how you kind of gutted.

So the curb weight's nothing.

200 horsepower.

It's for sale right now for like you get that and you get

another 500 that he's why not hearts car for like 7500.

What are we doing?

It just dude how scary revs to 13,000 RPM in a 500 e

Fiat a bar.

Godly.

Well, I'm a bar.

It's better than a bar.

Nevermind.

Yeah, 500 e.

I would come up with some cool naming convention for it,

but yeah, I thought that was so cool.

I'm like, God, it looks bonkers though and it's chain

driven, right?

Obviously it's fucking.

It's the most created that would be fun.

He said it looks so the way they did it stock like wheels

everything.

It looks like a fucking 500 dial looking wheels.

Yeah.

Except the fucking thing roast the tires at like Jesus

and if you downshift like three times at highway speeds

you're in, but I just imagine just like bouncing off the

rev limiter in a 500 e.

What does that sound like?

That thing should make a sound.

Yeah.

Good times.

That's for sale right now in Craigslist by the way.

Yeah.

That Burke and I just drove.

I only drove it like three blocks and like got through like

barely in the third gear and was just like I'm I'm good

off this and like I feel like I'm going to break it

or like accidentally somehow money shifted with the sequential

like I just I don't.

Nothing is we're it's inspiring.

And you'd have like no doors.

You're just like your arm is hanging out the side of the

vehicle.

It's like see that's why I kind of like this 500 e because

it isn't totally cool car and no smog.

Right.

So this is the hack.

I kind of make sense.

I think I'd have a lot of fun with that, you know.

Well, there's a heavy.

I don't know if you've seen it.

There's a guy that's got a similar setup in a leaf.

Oh, who's got an early leaf.

God, they're fucking hideous.

Like I think it's any day.

I think it's like a beefy V twin that's in the back.

Okay.

So it's in the rear hatch.

It's fucking can't get over the looks of those cars.

They're got ugly.

Well, I think like one of the quarter glasses is removed

and replaced with like a huge like intake scoop.

It has to be.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's fucking cool.

Yeah, it's just motorcycle engines in cars are like

so cool on paper.

Oh, I couldn't live with it.

I think it would be a fun.

I mean, Jesus, the price though is that's a lot of performance

for the price.

Right.

I bet that thing rips.

But yeah, I don't I don't know, man.

Car week next year.

Bring it by 500 revenue.

Put a turbo on it.

Turbo charge it.

Don't even need that.

It's so stupid.

Yeah.

Hell yeah.

It had the stock tires on it.

It's like it was one of those like one sixty fives.

It's like, yeah, like you roast it.

Whatever it was like.

Goodyear ecopias or something.

Oh, God.

Yes.

I thought that was a good find.

And fucking tastic.

Good times.

Anything else?

Anything else on on your stuck in your craw that we should

we should talk about?

We can solve hunger.

Do you want to?

We can talk religion and politics.

Those are popular things, man.

Yeah, exactly Thanksgiving conversations.

Yeah.

No, it's no.

It's just.

Let me tell you my thoughts on abortion.

No.

Yeah.

No, it's just I like little little kind of hitching our trailer

up to last week's episode is just like get making making an

effort to get that time in the garage.

Like I gotta gotta start turning through projects and I've

been doing good, man.

I've been doing pretty good at it.

Like I've got a little bit to share.

I've got a little bit of progress to share when we get

here, we get to the PCP celebration.

It really does take a lot of effort when it's like

after a long day of work and you come home and you

like eat dinner and you're spending time with the family

and you're like, so I really have the effort to go crawl

under a 1995 Geo tracker and then hell.

Yeah, is the answer.

So I go out and do it anyway.

Yeah, it is tough though, but it is nice to see the

progress start to add up.

So I feel a lot more positive than we were overwhelmed

last time, but I do have a better perspective and you

have to keep it on perspective.

You know, right?

Yep.

But God did.

Fuck your cars.

Yeah.

God damn it.

Yes, I just yeah, I'm waiting for like my phone to get

a text message and someone sends me like, oh, here's

a link to a Craigslist.

No, dude, I don't even look.

I'm like, I bet that's cool.

Yeah.

You know what's going to happen?

No, we're going to be done with the pod.

I'm going to go like lay down in bed and just like

poke through marketplace because I can't.

I'm always looking, dude.

I'm I'm always looking and I don't get why I look.

I think it's just because, you know, at the end of

the day, we do have that list of cars that shows

up like the ES 300 manual is one of those cars.

But if they show up, you're like, fuck, and I'm like

secretly not wanting to see that list of cars.

I don't want to see anyone, a member of that club show

up and be like, hey, I'm for sale right now.

Look at me.

Great condition.

That being said, I think I mentioned it.

The Grand Prix turbo is still for sale that 1990.

Remember, I went and checked it out and I low-balled.

I didn't low-bomb because it was it was way rough,

dude.

And I offered him four.

He said he'd go as low as five.

Someone bought it and the dude is shady as fuck that's selling

it now.

It's exactly doesn't say anything about smog.

Yeah, doesn't have any engine bay picks with the intake

missing and the aftermarket intake because that's the car

you can't you're just jumping it.

Yeah, you can't.

So he's like selling it for seventy five hundred.

Yeah, good luck.

It's down to seven right now.

Yeah, exact same car.

Obviously, killer car for like four for sure.

Yeah.

No, I that makes sense.

Dude, it was funny though with the fucking aftermarket intake

and the blow off valve noises coming from a party at Grand

Prix just like just rolling on the high and it's so loud.

It's like like out of a Grand Prix.

So yeah, I mean, just for that alone is worth it price

entry, but I'd kill to have that car.

It just need a lot of work.

Yeah, it's it's tough because it's just like find another

one.

But if you need parts for that car, well, you can't find

those parts and you have a stock intake and a wait

for another one.

Doesn't exist.

Yeah.

Yeah, car though.

Infinitely cool car just wild.

It's the car you get in an accident and your face gets

every button from the steering wheel and print it on you.

Hell, yeah.

Ah, I love it.

Bitchin.

Yep.

Anyway, should we play games?

We should play games.

Okay.

Um, I'm going to dig up an ad and hopefully not have

my computer freeze in the process and then you tell

the people at home what we're doing.

Yeah, as you're about to embark on some heavy

computing.

Uh, so we are starting our automotive print ad quiz

game show right now.

Thanks for joining us.

Frank is going to pull up an advertisement about a car.

Could be a truck to be fair.

80s, 90s, mid 2000s are fair game.

He's going to read through the ad.

He's going to try to omit anything that gives it away.

We slip up once in a while.

It's kind of fun.

That's the real challenge in this.

You have a couple beers and you try to read an ad

without saying dodge or Chrysler or why are you just

picking Mopar stuff?

Um, but anyway, I'm a Mopar read through it.

Through it.

I'm going to have three guesses guys to figure out

what the hell he's rambling on about.

These ads are never based in reality.

So it's always fun.

Whenever I fail, I'm going to ask for help.

Frank will say no and then we'll continue with the

timer, which is set at 10 minutes.

Correct.

Dude, roll that beautiful bean footage.

I'm ready.

All righty.

This is spicy, spicy level.

Um, I don't know.

It's probably like a seven.

Okay.

That's spice.

Yeah.

It's not like super spicy, but it's, um, it's interesting.

It's a two page spread.

Uh, up in the corner, it's got the little, the little

calipers and it says import car of the year motor trend

magazine.

Okay.

Um, the vehicle in question is being, uh, driven by

a racially ambiguous gentleman, um, two hands on

the wheel at 10 and two.

Uh, it's in motion.

Um, the wheels are spinning.

It's a roller.

If you will, he's got his high beams on because

why not?

And I was introducing the all new front wheel drive

blank, blank experience the blank, blank, blank

sport sedan newest member of the exclusive society

of refined road cars experience, superb acceleration

and handling together with the roominess and

luxury you've required in a sophisticated road car.

Road car experience a front wheel drive layout that

creates space for five adults to ride in comfort.

Experience remarkable directional control from

rack and pinion steering steel belted radials

and blanks patented rear suspension linkage experience

an all new two leader overhead cam engine with

more power than its predecessor and better gas mileage

experience all this at a price that reaffirms blanks

commitment to outstanding value.

The exclusive society of refined road cars has

just admitted a new member and when you experience

blank blank with a test drive, you'll experience

a new standard of excellence that puts it in this

car in a class by itself.

And then it has a couple of illustrations.

So one shows a bar graph.

Okay.

And then it says blank blank zero to 50 in eight seconds.

Okay.

Quarter mile in.

I can't really tell, but I think it says.

18 five at 75 miles per hour.

Delicious.

Wow.

It's quick.

It says 41 miles per gallon highway 29.

City.

It then shows a picture of the rear suspension.

You can see this.

It's all illustrated and it has arrows and it says

twin trapezoidal link and there's a blurb underneath

the independent rear suspension of the blank uses

patented twin trapezoidal link lower arm.

It's unique geometry improves directional stability

by causing the rear wheels to tow in when cornering

cornering or going over bumps.

I thought that was a bad thing, but that's fine.

And then it's got an illustration of the engine

and it's like, you know, visibly bifurcated.

And it's got the blurb there says all new transverse

mounted two liter overhead cam engine has 8% fewer

moving parts than previous blank engine and it's 57

pounds lighter.

It's also quieter, more compact and more powerful.

Standard features include five speed overdrive transmission.

Three speed automatic is optional.

Steel belted radio tires, rack and pinion steering power

assisted front disc brakes, front and rear anti sway bar

six way adjustable drivers seat halogen headlamps

as opposed as opposed to incandescent, I guess.

Candle power electric rear window defroster full cut pile

carpeting carpeted trunk 60 40 split rear down fold down

rear seat backs removable trunk relief remote trunk

release tilt adjustable steering column quartz digital

clock tachometer and trip odometer blank blank blank

sports sedan $7,795 with an asterisk with an asterisk

and I don't know where the asterisk goes.

Oh, but but but MSRP dealers and then free catalog tells

more we'd like to send you a free copy of our 30 page

full color catalog describing the new blank series.

Just send your name address city state zip to

the following address and mention that you'd like the

blank catalog mailing and marketing incorporated

PO box 5960 Orange, California.

Attention blank blank offer blank.

The more you look, the more you like.

This is tough.

So in bright.

This is for car of the year.

This is pretty spicy import car of the year.

This is definitely I feel like this is mid eighties again.

Sure.

It just hit me there.

I can't recall halogens halogens are good.

Halley's who two leader overhead cam.

So they won't they wouldn't be saying about a duo.

They would not leave dual overhead cam out.

So I think this is an error before do overhead cam being

very prevalent sedan.

Yep.

Sports sedan import sedan.

Two liter trapezoidal link.

That's a version of multi like that's an old version.

So I think that 84 makes sense.

Sports sedan is interesting.

Five speed optional three speed.

Yep.

Five speed man.

You well that zero to 60 not very impressive.

No, no, no, that was 5050 crying the quarter mile got

significantly worse though.

So okay.

Let's take a shot.

Sports sedan.

Mm hmm.

Two liter.

Two liter car.

This is a 1985 Nissan Maxima.

Final answer.

Ooh.

Um, this is not a 1995 Nissan facts.

Sorry.

85 Nissan Maxima, which I believe is a car only available

with a six cylinder.

Huh.

I believe the Maxima was only the VG 30 from the path

finder we didn't purchase.

Um, but the rest of it kind of tracks.

I think the auto and that was a fourth beat not a three

but long story short.

No, it is not a Nissan Maxima.

Okay.

Um, I will give you this as a hint.

Um, this is for the sports sedan.

Um, but as it says, uh, that you could order a full

color catalog describing the new blank series.

Mm hmm.

It was indeed also offered as a sports coupe.

Interesting.

The ad is only for the sedan.

I found a very, very, very similar ad.

Just sure it's just subbed out some of the details

and called it a coupe, but it's it's basically also

available as a coupe.

It's also available.

Okay.

That didn't help.

Um, that price tag made me think Japan versus Europe.

Mm hmm.

Could be wrong.

I don't know what the budget Volkswagen, but.

Boy, I don't think Volkswagen had anything exciting

going on the rear suspension for quite a while.

Right.

They had a because of live axle rear end.

Right.

I wish it was.

Um, boy.

I don't know.

What was the price again?

It was like seven, seven.

Yeah.

Seven, seven, ninety five.

Call it 78 if you wish.

Get the optional floor mats.

I think it's Japanese.

Sorry.

I'm stretching my goodies.

No, that's good.

So coupe sedan was my hint.

There's also a coupe.

Um, four door in this ad.

So two liter overhead cam.

Mm hmm.

Five speed.

God, the price is so low, though.

It's a good deal.

Gotta be Japan.

Um, I don't picture a Volkswagen that fits this description.

Um, could be though.

Ah, tripped each other up with Volkswagen's before.

It doesn't read like a Volkswagen ad though.

Experience.

Sports sedan carpeted trunk.

Hey now.

I mean, what would it be?

80s.

No, it's not.

It's not your rush.

It's not going to be your, it's going to be.

Japan.

Oh, no, man.

Uh, I have nothing to go on.

So coupe sedan.

The ultimate wasn't around yet.

Oh, I think it's early.

Yeah, mid 80s is probably the later part of that from

what you were naming.

Um,

you stopped me, dude.

This is way spicier than seven, by the way.

Um, coupe or sedan, two liter engine.

Epizoidal rear suspension.

Fuck.

The more you look, the more you like.

Front wheel drive.

Hmm.

God, I thought, I thought I had maxima there, but you're

right.

Yeah, I think that we only got it with the, I think it

Japan, it did have a two liter option though.

Maybe.

Yeah.

Dude, this is, this is rough.

This is going to be some obscure fucking car.

They sold 200 units of.

It's one you heard of.

Hmm.

Yeah.

How about a Toyota Cressida?

Final answer.

Ah, this is not a two liter Toyota Cressida.

I have literally no idea.

Definitely.

We're not from wheel drive.

The Toyota Cressida.

True.

We're drive only.

Um, okay.

One more.

I got this.

So you're right.

You are correct.

It is Japan.

Yeah.

Yep.

Um, what else can I give you?

Two liter.

Anything.

I'll take anything.

Um, but, but, but, but, uh, motor trend magazine.

Uh, I mean, 1983.

Yeah, I just got, I don't think it can be a, we're

preludes that cheap.

Maybe.

Preludes to Dan.

Truth.

Um, a cord.

In the prototype integra.

Yeah, I don't know.

Let's go, uh, the Honda Accord.

Final answer.

Uh, no, it's, it is, it is not perfect on the Accord.

You cannot get a Honda Accord coupe in 1983.

I had to wait until 1986 for the Accord coupe.

Uh, this would be, um, the other hand, I was going to give

you, but it would, it was probably a little bit too heavy-handed.

I found an alternative to this ad that said it, um, derived

to the front suspension off of, uh, the Mazda RX7.

Oh, still nothing.

This is the 1983 Mazda 626.

Of course it is.

Sports sedan.

That would have been my 20th guess.

Yes.

Good one.

These are actually, they're actually good.

Have you, have you never driven a 66?

Uh, no, I've, uh, I've driven the MX6's, uh, the Turbo and

then the V6 version based on the Ford probe.

Yes.

Yeah, that came later.

So this, yeah, before they had the MX6, there was

the 626, which rank concurrently, but before it was

like you, but there was no MX6.

So you got the 626 coupe horse sedan and I think

you can get a coupe until like 87.

So nice.

Um, let me send you the ad.

Yeah.

The MX6 was early nineties and the, uh, later one based

on the V6 probe was the mid nineties.

Both pretty good cars though.

Yeah.

I mean, they were both, the Ford versions were just

basically a rebadged Mazda version.

I mean, they, they owned a majority stake in Mazda.

Let's look at this thing.

Oh yeah.

Look at that.

Yeah.

A wheel drive.

Mazda 626.

Yeah.

I had a, um, I had, uh, I had, uh, a

buddy in high school who had a, the generation after

this is a little bit more kind of roundy little tighter.

Um, I think it was an 88 626, black, gray interior,

five speed.

Um, and I think boogie.

I remember at the time being like, Oh, this thing

is way more impressive than it should be.

Um, good, good little car.

Like it was the sporty alternative quote unquote

to, uh, you know, a Camry or a, you know, a

quarter or anything like that.

Very nice.

Don't sleep, don't sleep on Mazda.

Yeah.

That two liter was in a few things, I think too.

Yeah.

Two liter.

Yeah.

Um, I don't know the ubiquitous two liter, two liter

overhead cam bitch.

Nice.

Um, I don't know if we're getting worse at this

game because we've been missing so many lately

or we're just getting into the bottom.

I think two things are a play.

I think, I think, I think we're, we've

cooked our brains a little bit, um, as well as

we're getting, I mean, we've been picking some

minutiae, you know, Mitsubishi, uh, courtiers of

the world from time to time.

But, um, yeah, we are, we are getting more

lost in the weeds.

We're slipping.

Um, yeah, I don't know why that, I guess the

two liter was like too vague.

And then I was like front wheel drive sedan could

be a coupe was like everything at that time.

Yeah.

And 83 couldn't have been trying to think what

it could have been because a lot of stuff was like,

you know, the coops were a parts bin from other

stuff and they didn't name it the same.

Accord was, but not till later.

Yep.

I thought Accord was the biggest trap.

Uh, yeah.

Yeah.

Good times.

So close.

Cool.

On that note, bitches, um, have you, have you

been productive with project cars?

I actually have.

So, uh, with the geotracker, the 95 geotracker, I

actually finally got around to doing the interior

restoration, which I needed to do, uh, on my car.

It's actually a really fucking perfect shape to

tell you the truth.

Uh, the driver's door handle was broken, uh, which

was really fucking annoying.

So you had to roll down the window, open from the

outside.

So replace that really easy to connect just a

simple linkage to the lock, uh, got an OEM

replacement handle, which was kind of cool.

Still silly packaging.

Install that.

It's like three screws.

Good to go again.

Uh, things, I love those kind of fixes.

Those are the kind of fixes that like, I think

they're huge value ads because I think it's

like a pain in the dick if you can't open

your door.

So that was a big one.

Uh, detailed the interior and put my new roof

on.

Oh, so, uh, dude, just like when you do a

Miata or any other convertible, it does not.

It does not fit.

So you put it outside, you let the sun get

on it, making a little more shred.

You just keep working it to get it on there.

Uh, but it looks so good because it had a

white roof, uh, but it had kind of, you know,

white roofs over time, we'll get that kind of

mildew spots and all that kind of shit.

So I had that going on and all the plastic

was like completely opaque.

I couldn't see through the rear glass, rear plastic

at all.

So just the, the life improvements of having

clear plastic around.

Wow, who knew?

It's freaking cool.

I can see out of the vehicle again, uh, but

just the Velcro is perfect.

It doesn't rip the stitching when you open

the Velcro.

Oh, it's killer, dude.

It looks, I can't wait to do the wheels

white, uh, cause I think that contrast

between those, well, not contrast, but that

kind of matching between the glossy white

wheels with the new bright top.

The top is so bright, dude.

You don't notice how much white fades

until you replace it.

And it's like, it's ridiculous.

It's like teeth whitening for a tracker.

So, um, big, big deal, dude.

I think this thing's going to pop the

bright red with the cool tracker fucking

decal on the side and, uh, brand new

white roof, huge difference.

Uh, but again, they're getting harder to

find, uh, the roofs for these things.

So.

Yeah, I know.

I've had no luck yet on roof for my

Vitara.

Um, though, I haven't, I've, I haven't

done anything on that car yet because

I made a little bit of progress on,

uh, the rally bobeel on the focus.

Nice.

So not one of them says, right.

So, okay.

So I got the, I, I finally was like,

okay, let me spend a little bit of time

with this car.

Mm hmm.

So I just first like, first thing I was

like, let me just, let me, let me just

like baseline this shit.

So I plugged my scanner in, right?

And lo and behold had, um, the, the

aforementioned, uh, oxygen center.

That's right.

Um, sitting there stored code, but

then it also had a pending P zero

four two zero, which is, um, uh,

catalyst inefficiency, inefficiency.

So I said, okay, this is a well.

Hmm.

Um, that could be, I mean, that kind,

I suppose could be related to the

oxygen sensor, but let me, let me clear

it.

I'm going to clear the fault.

If it pops right back instantly,

then I do know, like, oh yeah,

like something did mess this up and

it needs a new sensor, but I know

he'd only replaced the center like

12,000 miles ago.

That's crazy.

And he said, he's like, oh yeah, I

think, you know, blah, blah, blah,

like I think, you know, something

paid it or whatever because I got

this fault again.

So I clear, I cleared it.

It doesn't come back immediately.

Right.

I was like, okay, it doesn't come

right back.

Let me do a drive cycle.

Just see.

So I do a drive cycle, park it

and no faults.

It set the oxygen sensor.

Monitor.

Oh, he did, he did, he did, he did

oh two and the oh two monitor set EGR.

It just didn't set the cat monitor

and like evap.

Okay.

Let me, let me let it cool down

and we'll try it again.

So I do.

I do another drive cycle.

It sets the cat and the evap

monitor.

It's small, ready.

Now it's got a pending fault for

basically like fuel trim related

to not coming to operating time

quickly enough.

Okay.

Kind of exactly what I was fucking

saying about the Vitara where

I think maybe it's a thermostat

issue.

I don't think this car has a

thermostat issue, but I know the

guy was rarely driving the car

and when he did, he would just

go to the, you know, whatever

go go down the hill to the

grocery store and back just

enough so like you can dodge

parking tickets and things like

that.

I think he just never really got

the car properly to operating

time to smog it.

Yeah.

And it just, and it eventually

was sick of a shit and through

an oxygen sensor fault and a

pending cat and efficiency

code because it was never

seeing proper operating time.

Now I did look and you can

see the thermostat housing has

been leaking a little bit.

Okay.

Like not actively, but there's

you can kind of see there's

some dried coolant.

Yeah, around where the temp

sensor goes in and it's a weird

setup.

It's a big blocky plastic housing.

Oh, I hate those.

I hate those plastic housing

and these fittings like for

the sensors.

They don't thread in.

It's like it's just like

clipped in with like a metal

clip.

Yep.

And and so the moment either

the clip the clip fatigues or

the the O ring seal there

dries up a little bit starts

to leak.

You start to leak a little bit.

I don't think it's enough to

cause this, but

I might just

I might just do the housing

and the thermostat anyways.

Not a bad idea.

Yeah.

But it's not all the monitors

and even with so anything 2009

or older, they'll pass you

even if you have a pending

fault as long as it hasn't

kicked into a stored code.

Hmm.

They'll pass.

So it's like shit.

So I drove over there.

I just like fingers crossed

rolled it up.

Didn't shut it off.

I'm like

here for a smog.

Past.

Here you go.

Sweet progress.

I got my new sticker.

No registration.

It's no longer on a P and O.

Nice and and and that pending

code went away.

So

it wants to rally.

I think it wants to rally.

Now I still got to do an axle.

Yeah, I still have tires.

That's like bear as minimum oil

change, wiper blades, basic, basic

shit.

And I did today get the windshield

replaced.

Oh, nice.

So now it's got a new windshield.

So they're the one with a horseshoe

crack right in front of your face.

It was 200 bucks installed.

Not bad.

So

I have a replacement oxygen sensor

just in a box now.

Motocraft one.

I don't have a use for it.

It'll just live with the car.

But yeah, that's an easy fix.

Oh, yeah, drive like do a proper

drive cycle and actually drive it

like it's a car.

Cars like that sometimes.

Go figure.

Yeah, yeah.

So I made some progress more to go.

But that was because that's that

that was part of why it was like

selling it so cheap is like, oh,

you know, check engine lights on.

I've already dealt with it.

I can't deal with it again.

And here you go.

So it seldom works out that

it's easier than you think.

That's nice.

Well, I haven't touched the other

shit, right?

Like I could go to do the axle

and it now needs a hub and bearing

and it needs like, I don't know.

Like I haven't gotten in there.

It does.

It feels great.

But and I'll probably find some

like, oh, I need some sway bar

and links or whatever.

Like tough.

Right.

So we're both about equal right

now with our rally cars

because we both passed smog.

We don't have any outstanding

codes, but we haven't done

any of the mechanical stuff

that needs to be fixed.

Got it.

Yeah, I just drove my shit.

So that's cool.

Not exactly turning wrenches,

but just like, hey, I'm going to

put a little bit of thought into

this and see if doing what

you're supposed to do to get

it to get it to operate.

Like it wants to be operated.

That's freaking amazing.

That is amazing.

Well, dude, congrats, because

that's like we talked about it

in the secret cost of project

our episode.

We did not too long ago is

that like one of the biggest

hurdles to overcome is

getting your car smogged,

getting it able to be

registered title in your name

and getting over that first hurdle

is huge, man.

So yeah, yeah, $2,000 car.

Right?

Yeah, right.

And so yeah, yeah, that's good.

I hope I have the same luck

with the Vitara and its smog was

Yeah, that'd be killer.

I'm becoming like the smog whisperer.

It's someone needs to be.

I fucking hate smug.

I hate it.

It's it's interesting.

You got to get the get in the

mind of the ECU.

Do you do you?

Oh, shit.

All right, we're done.

Should we pull the ripcord on this

and let people get back

to productive lives?

We should guys.

Thanks again for listening in.

And gals.

This has been.

Yeah, yeah.

I just loosely use the term.

Yeah.

And non-binary friends.

Yeah.

We're still on the fence about

that one.

Oh, I'm not.

I'm not.

Bring it.

We want to join our club.

Also to include lizard people,

androids and yet we're we are.

We are huge in the AI community.

We are.

Yeah, we're going to be replaced

eventually by AI anyway.

So but not a matter of time.

No, not the mecha Hitler.

That guy doesn't.

He doesn't listen to us.

Son of a bitch.

Yeah, we don't know.

We we I guess we don't know that,

right?

Like it might be.

I don't know.

Anyways, I don't know, man.

I haven't heard.

I haven't heard his feedback

about the pod yet.

So hopefully hopefully reach.

Yeah, we should.

What will happen if we asked

any of these like chatbots?

Like it's opinion on our podcast.

Like what would it say?

If we have an AI?

Yeah, we could.

I bet someone's done that.

Someone's an AI.

I guess.

Yes.

If you're a listener, please

and you've got a subscription

to any, you know, AI of your

choice.

Let us know what

how it throw shade at us.

That would be lovely.

It's a slippery slip.

But anyway, thanks guys

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Yeah.

That's all that's all I've got.

All right.

Cool.

Stay safe.

Take care of each other.

Love you guys.

Bye.

Boy.

Or don't.

You don't have to take care of each other.

Yeah.

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Yeah.

Well, I mean, that's technically

and literally

yeah.

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