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In a world with entirely too many shows about cars, this is another Pointless Automotive Podcast.
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The noises of a podcast.
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The noises of a podcast.
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Is there, I mean, help me out here.
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Is there such thing as podcast ASMR or are all podcast by definition ASMR or like if we like
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fuzzied the mic and like popped peas and like did like really gross mouth noises and just
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like got like really into it, you know, like eating like an overripe peach into the mic.
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And I don't mean that as a euphemism.
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I mean, like actually eating a delicious stone fruit.
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Like do you like, I don't know, maybe there's maybe there's something here.
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The only questionable thing I just saw was how you eat a peach.
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For those of you who can see the video, he was kind of just grinding what looks
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like a softball sized object into his face.
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Give the peaches what they want.
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There's billions of them, you know.
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Put there in a can by a man.
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I know where that factor is.
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Have you devoured any delicious stone fruit lately?
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No, not really, uh, admittedly, uh, and sadly, no, no, I'm more of a, I'm more of a plum
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Let's tell you the truth.
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How about peach versus nectarine?
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I mean, it's pretty close compare.
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I still take a peach.
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I'll take a peach over that for sure.
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For some reason, like peach in my mind and, and, and thanks, thank you everyone for tuning
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into the stone fruit hour.
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Um, peaches are like an kind of any time of the year kind of thing.
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A nectarine for some reason is like specifically spring, summer, and I don't even know if that's
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one to ripe, but like in my mind that feels, I think that tracks, I think stone fruits
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usually the beginning right before summer kicks off.
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If I remember correctly.
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It's like late April, early May kind of deal.
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So interesting, man.
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How you, why are you going to typecast your stone fruit to you?
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That's the big question.
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And then if you want to get really crazy, you grill, you grill your stone fruit.
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You ever, you ever do that?
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No, dude, we're going to get canceled if you put like, and then you put like some
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sort of like cream base, like a burrata on top of it or something and some cracked
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pepper, a little olive oil.
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Just, just, and then you eat it loudly and sloppily into a microphone on a
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You grind it upon your face like you did earlier.
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With your demonstration.
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Anyways, what's new?
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Should we talk about car things?
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We should probably steer it in that direction, I think so.
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So I've got a listener, an unusual listener request that we're going to do.
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We do listen to the people.
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Even in this case, if the people doesn't listen to us.
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So I've got a friend of mine, Mario, if you're out there, yeah, regular in real
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life, super in your hearts.
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But he, what's interesting is, he doesn't really listen to the podcast yet.
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He'll like occasionally be like, oh, you guys should talk about this on the
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I'm like, oh, you mean the one you don't listen to?
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And so he wanted, he was just like, oh, you guys should do, you know, like
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I was like, what we've, we've sort of talked about it a little bit, right?
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I haven't done a formal saving Nissan edition of the pod.
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We've discussed the downfall and failures of infinity.
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And we've talked about the Z cars when the new Z launched, which God, has our pod
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been around that long?
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We've new Z launched and we talked about it.
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We're putting some years on, man.
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I know that thing is old.
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So yeah, I think that's, that's what we're going to do.
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We're going to satiate listeners who aren't even listeners.
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That's how good we are.
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That's how strong our reach is.
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Yeah, we're omnipotent.
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Um, so why don't we do, why don't we do that?
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Oh, we're limp for everything.
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We're so fucking limp.
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It's just forever limp.
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So baby, I'm so flaccid right now.
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God, I couldn't be any more flaccid.
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Just like weeping because you, you, you can't get it soft.
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Oh, I'm sorry, babe.
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I can't even, I can't even.
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I can't even maintain a not erection.
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See, this is stuff we gotta say.
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We gotta say for the after dark episode.
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Yeah, I know we're given the best stuff out for free.
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What we should actually give out for free is our opinions on how each of us maybe
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could co-operative co-operatively.
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I'm trying to speak words today.
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Yeah, it's going for it.
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It's, you know what I'm drinking today?
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It's just like bubbly sparkle water.
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I'm, I'm, maybe that's it.
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Maybe I'm not, I'm not nearly buzzed enough.
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Anyways, how, how, how are we saving Nissan?
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It's taking us like 10 minutes just at this point.
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How are we saving Nissan?
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PLDR, this episode is about us saving Nissan.
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We did save Infiniti, so Nissan's upper crusty class cousin, if you will.
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I think Nissan, I think we all can agree that Nissan's a fantastic, not now, but
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Nissan historically is a fantastic automaker.
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Some absolute gems in some periods, they absolutely killed it.
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One of the, one of the more memorable brands I'd say from the late 80s, early
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I think that's when they were probably firing at their best.
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They've had, you know, shining moments before then, some after, but I think that
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was their kind of heyday, to be honest, if I was going to break it down.
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It's, it's, it's absolutely, it's, it's so sad, the state of the company.
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What do you think, today's Nissan, what do you think is their most potent?
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Or impotent, incidentally, where Limp is now good in our universe here.
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What is their otherwise best product right now?
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Well, like, what do you think, if you had to pick a single product of theirs,
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if you, if they have product, I mean, does anyone really know?
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But like, what do you, what do you think is their best product right now?
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Low and, what is it?
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Low and lazy always wins.
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But no, best, best product, it's got to be, it's got to be their CVT
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transmission, my friend.
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It can't be, can't be any worse than their old one.
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I still see paper plates on Centra as an ultimus, so they're still pushing
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it, somehow, I'd probably say like a rogue or something to that effect.
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It's probably one of their, their best sellers without looking at numbers.
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That's just a, that's just a take from the heart.
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Yeah, I mean, like, what do you think is it, like, if you were to pick
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out a product like, oh, that's actually almost competent as a hundred percent
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of Z, a hundred, and I would enjoy it.
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I know I would enjoy that car.
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Yeah, yeah, but that's not, that's, they're not selling those.
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I feel like the current Centra, which I think is, it's been out for a minute
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now, pretty decent.
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I think it's actually an okay car.
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For what it is, which is, you know, no one else will sell you a new car.
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And whatever your parole officer or somebody like demands you have a new car,
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you can't get a used car.
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There's some scenario where you have to get a brand new car, dude.
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And we, we had one as a, yeah, we had one as a rental in Hawaii.
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And that was, it was more than capable.
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Good little, it's like 72% of all Centra sales.
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They're all rental flights, right?
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Yeah, I thought it was pretty, pretty nice little car.
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They look, they look nice.
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Interior is cheap as all shit.
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But yeah, no, right now I don't think the company's doing too well.
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And I think it's pretty bad when they bring us in, right?
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They task us with bringing it back from the dead.
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You know, I know, especially since we actually charge a lot for our consulting here.
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That's the only reason the podcast days afloat is, is for our consulting piece.
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We don't need sponsorship.
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Unless you got something, Holler.
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You know what I, you know what I forgot, you know what technically is still not dead
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I mean, it's, it's, it's been, it's been like the, what the last challenger and charger
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where it's been the last call, final edition.
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We're going to sell it for one more year, red eye, brown eye edition.
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And they just like, keep stretching it out like goat's the edition and it just, it won't die.
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Oh, would you now, that's a good one.
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Would you take a GTR or a Z?
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Do I have to pay for it?
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Money is no object.
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Yeah, but which one would you enjoy more?
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Think about it for a while.
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Obviously you can't get a manual with the GTR.
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GTR is like stupid fast, but also just kind of stupid at this point.
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I do like the way the new one looks.
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They've got the whatever fancy special green color, heritage green or whatever it's called.
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It's like a, and they've really jazzed up the interior to try and make it
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because it's like 140k.
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Dude, they started at like 65 and now they're more than double.
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But like, I don't know, maybe the Z performance package.
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And I know they just announced the Nismo is finally going to be available with a manual.
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419 got a minute, right?
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But no, 420 horsepower.
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I think it is the, I don't know.
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I'm just scratching, scratching numbers out of thin air.
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But I think the Z is something I'd probably want more to like enjoy.
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As it currently is until, you know, even without the Nismo package,
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I think I want to roll my own in that car.
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I do think the Z is their best product.
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But and I think it's been an abject failure.
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I think there's no doubt it's failed in the marketplace.
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Whether you think the car itself, the product itself is good or not.
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How it's done and how well it's done in the marketplace has been brutally bad.
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And I don't think it's fault of the car.
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No, original NSX, same thing.
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Well, I think the difference is if you wanted an original NSX,
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you can walk into an Acura dealership, have a decent to good experience
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and buy one for probably around sticker when that car was new.
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When the new Z launched, A, there was limited supply
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because of supply chain constraints because of the end of COVID.
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And you had to deal with a fucking Nissan dealership.
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But that's a byproduct of the times.
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But the Nissan dealership experience was always been bad.
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It was the only competent product they had.
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And it was the only product that brought in people
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with actually decent credit scores and money.
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And so every one of those had like a 50% ADM on top.
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Don't get but hurt when you have to bring your Z in for like regular maintenance
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and they give you a Versa as your loaner car.
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We're not even that stupid.
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And you go to try and buy it and they're like, oh, these are special.
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Like we wouldn't even let it.
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He would test drive it.
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Yeah, the MSRP is whatever, 48.
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But we're going to ask 68, 69.99 plus hit you up for perma plate
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and low jack and a bunch of bullshit.
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And you just can't, you can't get into the car.
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So then you go down the street and you get a Supra,
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which is more powerful for the same money or cheaper.
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It's still going to Z, baby.
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You don't see them.
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I see like one a quarter.
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Every once in a while, yeah.
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Which is, it's a shame.
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So how else, what would you, what would you do to save?
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Would you, what's in your, I'm going to lay out, I'm going to lay out my plan.
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Flop it onto the table, my friend.
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Take this plan, put it in the musical instrument box,
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have a special forces guy help you guide it back into the plan
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to the dealership headquarters.
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We're going to talk about it right now.
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Dude, four vehicles.
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We're going to start off small.
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And I think, I think it's what we need to do.
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I think we need to narrow it back down.
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Sentra and like the funny thing about the Sentra Ultima,
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remember when they had Sentra Ultima Maxima
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and each one of those was clearly a different vehicle class.
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Like, yeah, so easy to tell.
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Now the new Sentra is way bigger than the old Maxima used to be.
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And the ultimate is like massive.
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If you look at it compared to like a first gen Ultima.
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So let's just, let's just have one,
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let's just have like two sizes that are very different.
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I miss, I think the Maxima was a great car.
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I think the Maxima and its time sold very well was well received.
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It was the, you know, it was a, what the four door sports car
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originally even had a little badge that denoted that.
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So we're going to stick with the Sentra and Maxima
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for our sedans because we're still living sedan life.
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I don't care about crossover city.
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We'll get into that in a little bit.
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So you're murdering, you're getting rid of big Ultima energy.
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Yeah, we don't need a middleman.
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We don't need a middleman.
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The Sentra's big enough now, right?
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No one looks at a modern sized Sentra and says,
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boy, that's really a, that's a real small compact you got there.
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It's not, it's plenty room.
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So, but I am, I am bringing back some excitement.
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I want the return of the SCR badge.
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And that shouldn't be a surprise coming from me.
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I love, I love little sporty Econa boxes,
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little front wheel drive, high revving SR20.
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I don't know if that's coming back, right?
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But something similar.
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I want to keep it NA.
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I know like it's, it's contemporary competition was like the Honda Civic.
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All the sporty Civics are turbo now, right?
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Whether it be a Sport SI or Type R,
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which we're not going after obviously,
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but I keep it manual NA, high revving,
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just think of a cheaper Civic SI fighter.
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And, but also the Sentra itself make a little more sporty, right?
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Even the base model back in the day,
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like the B13 base model Sentras were pretty decent cars.
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Like they weren't, they weren't wallowy messes.
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They were pretty tight.
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Those cars just went out of production like five years ago in Mexico.
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But no, keep that, bring it back.
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The way it used to be.
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So kind of take that, because the Sentra right now is nothing special.
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I think the last special Sentra we got was the Nismo.
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Do you remember that guy from like 2019, 2020 with a turbo?
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It was just kind of neutered and it wasn't super exciting.
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The suspension wasn't that great.
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Still had the CVT, right?
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No, you could get a Manuel.
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And that was the only saving grace,
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but apparently the engine was pretty anemic.
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There was nothing cool about it.
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So that was the last, and that was, yeah, we're talking five years now at this time.
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The Sentra doesn't have anything super exciting.
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So bring that back.
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I also want the four door sports car to come back.
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I want the maximum to come back, but I want to mix it up a little bit.
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What were the original Maximas?
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What kind of advantage did they have over?
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No, what did they have?
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The advantage over the following Maximas.
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The drivetrain baby, rear wheel drive.
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We're bringing it back.
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Because Infinity has plenty of rear wheel drive sedan platforms they can borrow from.
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So the cost savings are there.
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Let's talk to the bean counters a little bit.
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I want to drop that Z engine in a maximum.
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So it's kind of like the Red Sport.
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We'll make it more affordable, right?
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We'll focus on handling.
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I think that Red Sport wasn't a super handler.
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I think that was the biggest criticism that car got,
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was that the engine is plenty of power.
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400 horsepower, no one complains.
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But I don't think it handled like a sporty car.
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And I'm being careful because it's not a sports car.
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So the aspirations were a sporty car.
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And it wasn't even hitting that.
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It wasn't a sports car.
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So the Maximas can do that.
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So we're borrowing the rear wheel drive architecture, handling, performance.
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I want to drop a manual in that, which is something that they didn't do.
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And I think that's cool.
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I think we bring the SCR badge on that too.
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We had the Ultima, but the Maximas never really got an SCR version.
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Maybe we do an SCR version with that 400 horsepower motor.
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Drop the manual in there.
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I think that'd be kind of fun.
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Rear wheel drive in this parking place with a Nissan badge.
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I think that could get a lot of people excited to tell you the truth.
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And then even without that motor, put a nice stout, whatever,
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Infinity V6 is running.
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Keep it rear wheel drive.
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So it kind of goes a little upmarket even.
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I kind of like that.
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But keep it not focused on, I don't think anyone's ever called a maxima opulent,
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but don't focus on any luxury aspect.
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Let's focus on sporty stuff and just keep it down to earth and sharp looks.
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We'll redesign it, make it look nice.
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So this is my two sedans.
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That's your sedans.
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The other two, super easy.
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A truck we've been talking about, the Pathfinder.
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We need a Pathfinder.
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We need a real Pathfinder, my friend.
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A budget off-roader, which the original Pathfinder was positioned in the market to always be,
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because it battled with the four runner did pretty good.
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At the time, the market was pretty hard.
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As Susie had like the rodeo and trooper, there was a lot of competition in that space.
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I want to make it like similar designs.
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I want the three spoke wheels.
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I want the cool little triangle window.
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I want all the things we like about that truck, even a manual,
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but more stripped down, more actual off-roading and borrow from like kind of the Bronco
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playbook with the retro styling.
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I think this market would do well with something like that.
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And that's a good batch to take back.
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So I think Pathfinder is a recognized model.
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So I think that would do pretty well.
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And then here it is, baby.
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We're going for the three-row, kind of have a three.
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Everybody's into big trucks again, right?
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Yeah, and they love armadas.
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The armada has been pretty rough for a while.
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They're not good looking, dude.
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And it's infinity counterpart.
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When I see him, it's just like probably one of the uglier big vehicles on the road.
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The original QX-56 might be the ugliest car ever produced.
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It's in the newer ones.
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You know the second hand was brutal.
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That big chrome thing in front of like under the mirror.
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Absolutely atrocious.
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It's like a auto-zoned gluer on.
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The weirdly shaped word glass situation.
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So the early ones were pretty cool.
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The armada, I'm saying.
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Yeah, the armada way more than the QX.
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Bring back the armada.
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I say we do the boxy styling still.
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Kind of borrow from that again, but just kind of reinvent that name.
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Because I think armada is a damn cool name.
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So I say we rock that.
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It's like a deeply discounted Lexus GX at this point.
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And then we just, you know, three-row.
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It doesn't, I want to make it a little more off-road capable.
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I hate like the faux off-road truck thing.
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So we keep it honest.
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Obviously it's downmarket from the Lexus.
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But just to bring some of that three-row authentic off-road capable,
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but still cool-looking truck.
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So the market wants it.
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Let's give it to them.
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So we have our layout.
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That's all I got, man.
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I got four vehicles.
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And that's how I bring Nissan back.
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From beyond the gray.
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And I think, you know, the glaring omission is a sports car.
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I think the Z needs to-
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Are you keeping the Z or are you burying it?
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I didn't want to move the Z.
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But I think we need to do something different with it.
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I think it didn't deliver on everything we thought it was going to be.
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And I think the original 240Z was probably the actual sports car
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of the entire Z history.
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The rest were kind of grand tours.
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But they had some sporty moments.
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I think the Z32 twin-turbo was actually a pretty good sports car.
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It was a pretty good blend between a GT and a sports car.
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It was a little shorter, right?
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The 2 plus 2 was obviously the GT variant.
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Huge power bump over the previous Z31, right?
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I think we do the Z, but I don't know, man.
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We got to do something to spice that up a little bit.
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Like either cut some weight out or do something to it.
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Find a way to make that thing cheap, you know?
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And make it an actual approachable sports car.
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But the Z name still applies because the Zs were always a great deal.
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Like from a financial perspective.
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Like if you're looking to buy a sports car,
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Nissan always had you covered, right?
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It wasn't the fact-
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It was never the fastest.
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Except for that Z32 was pretty quick when it came out.
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But the Zs were always just that great sports car
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that didn't break the bank.
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It's funny that you mentioned that.
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Find a way to make it cheaper.
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Because I think that's, for me, if I got to be given a magic wand and wave it
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and everything is implemented for the 2026 model year,
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I think that's the main change I do to the Z.
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Is it stays the course, but you have to find a way to get your dealership network
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to chill the fuck out and be like,
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okay, you put ADMs on these Zs and you get penalized.
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You're no longer able to qualify for Nissan financing or whatever.
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I don't know what teeth Nissan of North America has,
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but if they can figure out a way to be like,
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hey, we have Zs in stock and we're not cranking the price up
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and we're making the dealer sell them at or under MSRP and not add a bunch of horseshit
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you know, add-ons and then market the car a little bit.
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I think it could be viable.
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I think you're right there.
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Although my approach is like, don't cheapen the car,
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just slap the shit out of these dealers.
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Yeah, I think it could be cheapened though.
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I think we could take a lot of the tech out of it.
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I think we could pare it down a little bit.
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I'd like to think that we can, but I think buyers won't.
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Yeah, I'm not talking, well, it's just two seat sports car, right?
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I know, but we don't, and we like that, but we're also not buying new cars.
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We love that, but no one that's buying that car is like,
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I need my daily commute grind vehicle.
22:57
I'm not going to Nissan and buying a Z, right?
22:59
Like it's, and it's terribly, it's terribly not a good fit for the commuter, right?
23:05
Like it has like not the best storage space.
23:08
It's probably ergonomically challenged to almost every respect.
23:11
I mean, you got it.
23:12
Yeah, you the only, in my opinion, the only hope for that car is
23:16
that you try and have it do everything the Supra does at a 25% discount.
23:23
Yeah, so it may be at 75% of the car that the current Supra is.
23:29
And I don't love, love the current Supra, the Supra.
23:32
But if it can be a cool thing and you're buying it from a competent dealership,
23:42
instead of one who's M-O to try and pick your pocket the moment you walk in,
23:47
because they assume you're buying a clapped Ultima.
23:51
And I do think the other biggest thing that'll help the Z is, are you there?
23:59
Your face froze with an O face, which doesn't bother me in the least.
24:03
And it's frozen on my end with an O face.
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Is it still frozen on your end or no?
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Yeah, you're frozen, bro.
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Should we just go with the frozen and see if I unfreeze?
24:13
As long as the audio is good.
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Okay, well, this is fun.
24:20
Anywho, and that was distracting because O face me is staring back at me
24:24
and I don't know what to think about it.
24:25
Oh, you're locked on your own screen?
24:28
Yeah, even on my screen, I'm locked.
24:29
That's what I don't understand.
24:31
Anyways, this is all fun.
24:33
Yeah, welcome to the wild world of podcasting.
24:37
Tell someone to hang up the phone at your house.
24:38
They're using all the bandwidth.
24:40
Yeah, my 28.8 modem just can't hang.
24:43
So should I just dive into my case here or should we take a break
24:50
and try and fix the brokenness just in case it stops?
24:53
I am getting good audio.
24:57
I don't know how we maybe click your video on and off.
25:00
I don't know what happens.
25:01
Oh, can you even interact with your screen or is it?
25:04
No, it's just let me.
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Yeah, troubleshooting live.
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Let me turn it back on.
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That's what I want to do.
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Oh, we might have lost you indefinitely.
25:23
Oh, see, we just had to restart it.
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Anyways, this is going to be a very interesting episode.
25:31
Like I work in the tech industry or something.
25:33
Have you tried turning it off and turning it back on again?
25:38
So, okay, no, I like your approach.
25:40
What's funny is there's a lot of the approach is similar
25:45
or frankly, the same.
25:46
Just I have in my mind, I've got some different angles.
25:50
First off, what you kind of hinted at but didn't outright say
25:54
is I think one of the biggest steps to save Nissan.
25:58
And I say this as just a few days ago, Nissan announced that they are
26:03
axing their entire North American and South American design centers,
26:08
which includes their design center in San Diego,
26:11
which has been there since I think like the early 90s.
26:13
Like I think a lot of stuff came out of that design center.
26:17
I think the 350Z came out of that design center.
26:21
I believe the, I don't know, the Cube sounds like that was made in Japan.
26:24
But yeah, it's like it's a very, you know, it'd be like if Toyota
26:30
axed Calty down in SoCal in their design center.
26:33
So it's kind of a big deal.
26:36
And in my mind, I think they would be better served firing something else.
26:42
And that's they should just murder Infinity, kill Infinity.
26:46
They have all that money.
26:48
And instead, what you do is you make a couple of more upmarket Nissan offerings.
26:58
And that's where I agree with you with regards to the Maxima,
27:05
where not that there's a huge amount of money in a flagship sedan right now,
27:09
but where Infinity was at its best is when they were making the G35 and G37 sedans
27:19
and Coupes, but really the bread and butter for them was a sedan.
27:23
And the G20s, sure.
27:27
And so I think if you just eliminate all of Infinity,
27:31
which is just selling a bunch of crossovers that are indistinguishable from one another,
27:35
like, there's no reason for anyone to walk into an Infinity dealership today.
27:42
None other than getting something deeply, deeply, deeply discounted.
27:46
So you might as well have that be something in a Nissan dealership.
27:55
And oh, no, we have to sacrifice the one
27:59
Infinity dealership in the Tri-County area, whatever.
28:02
I don't know, buy them out and fucking figure it out.
28:04
You've got money from closing your design tenor.
28:06
So you utilize the savings, but I think you get rid of Infinity.
28:11
You do bring back an Infinity G35, 37 equivalent in the Maxima,
28:20
which is largely what you were advocating for.
28:24
So you've got a slightly more upmarket offering almost to like when
28:31
like Hyundai launched the original Genesis, right?
28:35
And that was their upmarket.
28:37
Like, wow, look what Hyundai can do for you.
28:39
Look at this awesome thing.
28:41
And you kind of bring a little extra cash aid to the brand.
28:45
The diesel has no cash aid, right?
28:47
Yeah, the Genesis 50R spec.
28:53
And so, yeah, so whether you make it, you know, rear-wheel drive and or all-wheel drive,
28:59
you know, you recycle the transmission and powertrain offerings out of the Z.
29:05
As old as all that shit is, like it's still usable.
29:09
My thought is you're a dying brand.
29:13
There's hemorrhaging money.
29:15
You're not going to...
29:21
Okay, let me put it this way.
29:23
Do you follow hockey?
29:29
I know you grew up on the East Coast.
29:35
They've been so horrible with the best season ever two years ago.
29:43
Tim Thomas is a clown.
29:47
Anyways, there's a famous clip of one of, if not maybe my favorite San Jose shark of all time.
29:55
Mr. Joe Pavelski himself.
29:57
Have this little Joe where they were down a few points and fighting for a playoff space.
30:07
And they got down like three nothing after the first intermission.
30:13
And he's in there, like everyone's all downtrodden in the locker room.
30:15
And there's a filming in there.
30:17
And he's going around to the locker room and he's just like, we're in a playoff push.
30:21
You can't take a shift off.
30:23
Like, and he keeps yelling soft shit doesn't work in the playoffs.
30:29
Like you have to, like this is crunch time.
30:31
Our backs against the wall.
30:33
This is basically a playoff game for us.
30:35
Right? Our chips are down.
30:37
Soft shit doesn't win in the playoffs.
30:41
You have to take chances.
30:43
And that's what I think Nissan is at.
30:45
Their back is against the wall.
30:47
They've got a bunch of shit that they can lean on with their heritage.
30:49
Now they just killed their design studio.
30:51
So maybe it'll be harder for them to take design chances.
30:54
But I think they have to.
30:56
They need to capitalize on what Honda has not been doing.
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We talked about Honda a little bit ago and how they just refuse to take chances.
31:05
They're just mailing it in.
31:07
They say like they're going to take a chance.
31:09
We're relaunching the RSX.
31:11
And then it's a fucking crossover that no one cares about.
31:15
And so I think if Nissan does take the chance.
31:19
They don't have a choice at this point.
31:21
Right? They have to kind of shoot the moon.
31:24
And so I think if they make a somewhat aggressively styled.
31:28
Even if you're recycling powertrain from the Z.
31:31
And you have a rear drive sports sedan.
31:34
It will be the only one coming out of Japan.
31:40
You use that as your upmarket offering.
31:43
I think you keep the Ultima being the Ultima.
31:49
And getting you some bullshit basic level.
31:55
Servicing your existing customer who oops.
31:57
My 2018 Ultima blew up because I ran it out of oil because I'm an Ultima owner.
32:01
And then they come in and they.
32:03
Oh, let me just get the new Ultima.
32:05
It's still like 10% cheaper than the rest of the competition.
32:07
And it's been refreshed and it's functional.
32:09
Great. I'm leaving the Ultima alone.
32:12
I like as much as I said earlier that the center.
32:15
I think is a is a is a decent offering actually.
32:18
It's a little long in a tooth.
32:20
I think they're redoing it now ish.
32:22
I don't know. I don't keep up on Sentra news.
32:24
But I think the brand name of Sentra.
32:30
Has no brand value at all.
32:32
In fact, it's almost it's almost a negative value.
32:35
So I think you again in in in the theory of taking taking some chances.
32:44
You redo the Ultima.
32:46
You aggressively style it.
32:48
And I want to bring back the 510.
32:53
Yes, it was a Dotson, but everyone knows what it really is.
32:56
And do you remember?
32:59
God, what was it 10 years ago?
33:01
I want to say they had there was like a 510 concept car that they put out.
33:04
It was like a con compact kind of boxy blackout front.
33:10
We all knew in our hearts of hearts that they weren't going to make that thing.
33:16
But like imagine one of those now to be defunct design studios, but yeah.
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Yo, I promise you, right?
33:25
Watch was our boy, Brian Nesbitt, who actually designed it.
33:28
So here's the thing.
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Oh, did I freeze again?
33:34
Okay, let's try this again.
33:37
We'll do this in real time.
33:38
I'm really good at it now.
33:40
Fantastic listening.
33:42
So 510, you bring back the 510.
33:46
And my thought is, you know, when the, you know, I guess it was what they originally
33:52
called the 86 or GT 86 or FT, it was the FT 86.
33:57
When the Scion FT 86.
34:02
See, it's had like 11,000 names.
34:03
Who the fuck cares?
34:04
Scion even, whatever.
34:06
But if you have like, that was a successful callback to a cheaper, lightweight, rear drive,
34:16
entry level sports car.
34:18
And it was successful.
34:20
Now it hasn't sold in huge droves, but it's been successful and splashy.
34:26
And they tried to make that be like the halo car for your entry level offering, which
34:30
was Scion at the time, which, you know, you weren't going to save Scion.
34:35
And they just think of like the matrix or some bullshit.
34:40
No one, no one wept.
34:41
But that model lives on.
34:43
And so I think if you kind of take that same thought of saying we're going to
34:46
make an exciting, inexpensive entry level car.
34:50
And it's going to be our center of replacement, right?
34:53
It's going to be a sedan.
34:54
I'm not going to make a two door.
34:57
I'm just doing this to like, how do I, how do I have a, an exciting
35:05
Cause there kind of aren't any anymore.
35:07
What's the most exciting entry, like four door entry level daily?
35:12
And by entry level, I mean, you know, starting at 20, call it 26,
35:18
which is there's like no cars right now.
35:20
Nothing, nothing competes in that market.
35:23
But like maybe 30, you can't get a GTI that low.
35:28
It just doesn't have to be.
35:32
And you only need that amount of power, right?
35:37
And so, but I want it to be a little smaller than that.
35:39
Cause you said it, like these cars have all gotten to God damn big.
35:42
So I want it to be a little smaller.
35:44
I want it to be aggressively boxy styled.
35:47
I want a wagon variant.
35:50
Even if it's basically a four door hatch, you call it the wagon.
35:55
And if it's styled right and it's price right and you call it the
35:59
five 10, maybe you can include the, right?
36:05
Um, I think that would do, I think that would be, it would
36:09
absolutely be a, a fucking flag plant by Nissan.
36:14
Be like, we have our heritage.
36:16
You even do like an old red, white, blue, like heritage
36:20
livery for some special edition shit.
36:23
Um, that's what, so I was just thinking, like, what if they
36:26
did a heritage edition?
36:27
You could slap a dots and badge on it from the, from the factory.
36:31
How cool would that be?
36:33
Or even just like, you know, like, like a blue and white two
36:35
tone with like red hockey stripes down the side or
36:39
something like that.
36:40
Um, again, like taking, taking chances.
36:43
Um, and leaning on their heritage cause they've got
36:47
There's nothing else for them to lean on.
36:49
They don't have the money to do this huge development stuff.
36:52
And I think if you're, if you have an okay dealer network
36:57
and you have kick ass styling and good and decent pricing,
37:03
like, as long as it like meets cafe, which apparently
37:06
doesn't matter anymore.
37:08
We ball like just like nobody's going to care.
37:12
We're like, oh man, they just reuse this engine for like
37:16
Like you and I might care, but the market won't care.
37:21
So I think just do it.
37:22
Styling rules a day.
37:23
Um, yeah, I do like, I do like,
37:25
I do like bringing, they have to get back into the proper
37:33
Um, I think you keep this, I think you keep the pathfinder.
37:37
I think the pathfinder has gone too far down the path of softness.
37:41
So I think you, you have to keep a, you kill the rogue.
37:45
The rogue is a piece of garbage.
37:47
Nobody likes a rogue.
37:48
Um, the rogue has gone rogue.
37:50
Let it die in the desert.
37:52
And you, you keep the, you know, whether it's a two row or two
37:57
and a half row SUV as a pathfinder, unibody, but you do bring
38:03
back a frontier based X Terra as your butch off road offering.
38:12
And I, I think the X Terra is like classic quote unquote
38:18
enough at this point, it's been out of production long
38:20
enough and that second gen was in production well beyond
38:24
its shelf life to where people, you say X Terra, people might
38:28
even think about the original version more now.
38:30
Um, and so you, you, yeah, you capitalize on that.
38:34
You're like, you know, however you want to market it, you
38:36
market it aggressive, you style it aggressive.
38:40
We think of the forerunner is this like kind of conservative
38:43
thing, but if you look at the styling of a new forerunner
38:45
it's pretty fucking aggressive.
38:48
And I think you need to match.
38:49
You kind of need to match that energy.
38:51
You, you have a lot of throwback styling to the original one
38:55
with like big plastic fender flares and, um, and you've
39:00
got the first aid kit bump on the rear gate and you have a
39:04
roof rack with like the bump on the roof, you know, almost
39:07
like an old disco, like the original X stadium stadium
39:13
And, and yeah, you make a, you bet, you basically make a,
39:18
a true forerunner competitor like the X taro was.
39:22
Um, and you part share with, with the, the current
39:26
frontier, which is, I think it's falling victim more to
39:30
more so like, here's my thought.
39:32
I think it's a decent product.
39:34
I've never spent time in one.
39:36
They do look, they look nice too.
39:38
I think the new frontiers look pretty nice.
39:39
Like the pro four X's look pretty sharp.
39:42
I think they don't, I don't think, I don't think they sell
39:44
all that well because, because they don't head sub
39:47
because they have Nissan Edge.
39:50
And Nissan has such a bad rep, but if you can make some
39:53
splashy offerings, like the five 10 and, you know, you
39:57
kill off infinity and bring it in house, the Maxima
40:00
and maybe you have, you know, a fancier option three
40:04
row and whether you call it the Armada, I don't
40:07
love the Armada name.
40:08
I'd like to like something, bring something out.
40:12
Maybe, I don't know if you bring a name out of
40:13
retirement, like what are you going to, the quest?
40:15
Like what the fuck are you going to call it?
40:21
And then, and then kind of go from there, right?
40:23
Like if you find some traction with that, then
40:27
yeah, maybe you make a two door five 10, right?
40:31
Or you keep, you'd have that same chassis and
40:33
you, you, you make a different bodied coupe
40:37
based on the same mechanics and you call it
40:39
the 240SX or you just call it the Sylvia, right?
40:43
Enough kids have played video games that like
40:46
they'll know what that car is.
40:48
They'll want to buy that car.
40:50
But they have to take chances.
40:52
They have, they have to take some, you got
40:54
to swing for the fence.
40:55
Soft shit doesn't work in the playoffs.
40:59
Dude, I haven't had a solid bowel movement
41:05
It's the, the, the bathroom playoffs.
41:08
Always win that game.
41:09
Let me, let me do this again.
41:10
Apparently this is my life now.
41:13
I like your takeaway is taking risks.
41:14
Mine is going back to when the car company
41:16
was actually successful.
41:18
I think, I think truthfully they have to,
41:20
I think they have to drink from both of those
41:22
Kool-Aid punch bowls to make something happen
41:24
here because literally treading, they've been
41:27
treading water for, I don't know,
41:29
what feels like probably at least 15 years.
41:33
As a brand, they've kind of just been
41:35
just going through the motions.
41:37
They need to get excited.
41:39
They didn't get excited about their products.
41:41
They need to make us excited about their products
41:43
again because that's what counts.
41:45
I like what you did there.
41:47
I think the X-Tera is a good one,
41:49
but I just can't let Pathfinder go.
41:51
I think we need to be like, and when it returns
41:53
be like, guess who found their path again.
41:55
And it comes back with that retro styling.
41:57
I just, I don't know.
41:59
In my eyes, I think that makes it sound
42:01
like they were like in rehab for the last
42:04
Dude, they, like you can take
42:06
and take like a first gen Pathfinder.
42:08
You have Charlie Sheen
42:10
like roll up and roll the window down
42:12
and be like, guess who found
42:16
And then he spits out like a
42:20
Those commercials were great by the way.
42:22
But no, I think the Pathfinder,
42:24
I think the Pathfinder needs to come back,
42:26
but the X-Tera is another good one.
42:28
I think they need to take risk.
42:30
I think staying away from risks
42:32
has made them horrible.
42:34
So have certain CVT transmissions,
42:36
but that's besides the point.
42:38
They just, they need to start making things
42:44
Just like just and, and what's funny
42:46
is like, I think they almost could
42:52
Dodge and Chrysler has done
42:54
over the last 15 years.
42:56
While Nissan has been lost for the last
42:58
15 years and as much shit
43:00
as we can and do give
43:04
for what their offerings have been for the last 15 years,
43:06
which is basically the same fucking play.
43:08
Just run over and over and over and over again.
43:10
But it has worked for them.
43:12
They've been the ones who are
43:14
like zinging while everyone else is zagging.
43:17
And it's kind of running out of steam at this point.
43:19
And which is why they've, they're really fumbling
43:21
the bag very lately.
43:23
But I think if, if,
43:25
if Nissan does some of that and says, hey,
43:29
realizing everything and
43:32
Honda is just being
43:34
hyper conservative.
43:36
And even when they say they're going to take chances,
43:41
They need to be the ones to be like, you know,
43:43
whether the muscle cars back, not like
43:45
exactly Dodge, but like, you know,
43:47
you know, the Maximus back,
43:49
you know, the sports, the full size
43:51
sports and then it's back and the entry level
43:53
exciting car is back with some like aggressive
43:55
styling and the four wheel drive,
43:57
you know, anti Toyota tax machine
44:01
Like I think they can,
44:04
they can pull themselves up by the bootstraps,
44:08
So yeah, I mean, they need to, right?
44:10
Like the writing's on the wall if they don't,
44:12
it's just, it's not going to be a very long
44:14
path left for them.
44:18
But I, it, how much they got in them?
44:21
Current trajectory is that
44:23
if like a fucking death
44:25
rattle of five years,
44:27
ticking off would be my best guess.
44:29
It'll just be, yeah, I mean, if they,
44:33
sailing towards the shore,
44:35
which is pure rocks and,
44:37
and yeah, following the
44:39
Siren song of inaction,
44:41
then yeah, then I think
44:43
five years and they're, they go
44:45
all because they've got
44:47
some advantages, you know, they've got that long
44:50
They have manufacturing facilities
44:52
in the United States, so they do not have
44:54
to get fully blasted in the mouth
44:58
not peanut north, but by the
45:00
the tariff gang, right?
45:02
Like if you're, if you're, you know,
45:04
Polestar and you make everything in China,
45:06
you are now ineligible for selling
45:08
shit in the United States effect, like
45:12
Nissan has manufacturing facilities here.
45:16
a lot that they can lean on.
45:18
They just haven't been
45:20
competing it competitively. So
45:22
come on. They got a chance. I want
45:24
Nissan to be good. We all do. I
45:26
love Nissan. I've owned some fantastic
45:28
Nissan's. I think in that period,
45:30
like I said, the doll even
45:32
extend to the mid the mid 80s to mid
45:36
fucking on top of their game. They were absolutely brilliant
45:38
and they need to, they need
45:40
to get that back. They need to get that mojo.
45:42
We want that mojo, big mojo
45:44
energy, big ultimate energy.
45:46
Good. Well, we save that
45:48
brand. That's fantastic. Yeah.
45:50
Yeah. Check is, check is in the mail, I'm sure.
45:52
Yeah. Exactly. I cannot wait.
45:54
Yeah. Unfortunately, our PO box is a
45:56
paper shredder. Yeah, it is. Yeah.
46:00
who. Yeah, let's, let's, let's move
46:02
on. Let's move on and do a little thing we'd like to
46:04
call the automotive print ad quiz
46:06
game. I'm going to post something
46:12
I'll call it, I'll call it in the five
46:14
in the five out of 10 range. I hate it when you do this
46:16
because then I'm going to like stumble and be like, I feel
46:18
like an idiot like halfway through you
46:20
reading it. I'm like, I don't get it. Fuck.
46:22
He gets it now. All right. Let's see. Let's
46:24
see. Get the pie in my face.
46:28
Frank's going to walk you guys through what the hell we're
46:30
about to do. I try to dust off
46:32
this fine little advertisement.
46:34
All right. As he crop dusts that
46:36
thing off, I will tell you what we're
46:38
going to do, which is
46:40
it's a game. You should play along
46:42
at home. It's our print ad quiz
46:44
game. It still has a terrible name, almost 200 episodes
46:48
yeah, what it consists
46:50
of is quite simple. Chadwick here
46:52
in today's episode is going to find
46:54
a print advertisement from some sort
46:56
of publication from the
46:58
80s, 90s to the mid
47:00
2000s. The heyday of
47:02
automobile advertisement. And he
47:04
will read the type copy from that ad.
47:06
He will redact out anything
47:08
overly identifying such as make
47:12
because it's my job to try and figure out
47:14
what make model and approximate
47:16
ear of the vehicle in question is based
47:18
upon the advertisement type
47:20
copy. I get three guesses
47:22
and 10 minutes. Maybe some hints will
47:24
come my way. Maybe I won't need them.
47:30
You got that, man. So
47:32
coming your way is a single page
47:36
Very aggressive photo here. Vehicle
47:38
way full straight on rate
47:40
rate down your frigging face lined
47:42
up with your down to the forehead.
47:44
The main line if you will H1
47:46
if you're doing the HTML
47:48
please stay to the right.
47:50
Oh, so it's already in your face,
47:52
bro. Harrison butker. No, carry on.
47:56
It's not many luxury
48:00
that can scare traffic
48:02
into the slow lane on looks
48:04
alone. Oh boy. But that's
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how the new blank is
48:18
horsepower dual overhead
48:24
I like how they start with the motor and
48:26
then they've mentioned ABS time period
48:32
walnut and CD stereo sound
48:34
all of which make the left
48:36
hand lane a much more
48:40
See what happens when you demand
48:48
Not wordy, not a ton
48:50
of specs but some important ones which is really
48:54
you said said you said
48:56
luxury sports sedan
49:12
Lexus like the one use the Fe
49:18
but it does not read
49:20
I would not call it LS
49:24
and like scare shit out of the fast lane
49:28
and aside show they're pretty scary
49:40
and it did get downrated a little bit
49:50
that horsepower number
49:52
SAE adjustments my friend
49:56
so that's a possibility
50:00
because that's an also a 32 that
50:02
kind of checks all those boxes
50:14
modular Ford modular
50:18
which was you had the
50:26
God Lincoln Lincoln
50:28
modern Lincoln naming has been
50:30
atrocious it is now
50:32
it's hard and it was in the 90s
50:34
because you had the Continental
50:36
and you had the Mark 8
50:38
and you had the town car
50:40
and a lot of that shit was
50:42
trims with one one another in
50:44
earlier instances and so it gets all wonky
50:46
but I think it was the Continental
50:48
which was the four door
50:50
with the in a tech VA
50:52
which is the 32 valve
50:54
Ford modular and that's right
50:56
around I want to say it was
50:58
like in the Mark 8 it was 260
51:00
horse or 265 but I think
51:02
it was downrated a little bit
51:04
in the front wheel drive application
51:06
so it could be that
51:08
God that does not that's not
51:10
an aggressive looking car
51:14
those are the three that popped to mind
51:22
we ain't dealing with no
51:24
ancient push rod technology in this VA
51:28
like that's not it doesn't really jive
51:30
all the twin cam stuff
51:32
they were doing was like the quad four
51:36
whatever the fuck you called it in the
51:42
in the front wheel drive stuff
51:46
you know I'm going to and
51:48
Dodge was out to lunch
51:50
they weren't playing in this space
51:54
certainly not Honda
51:58
proper but maybe the Alexis
52:02
it doesn't sound European
52:04
but could it be like an S type
52:08
I did not I did not hear
52:10
Sting singing in in this
52:12
advertisement so I don't think it's an S type
52:18
going to go you know what I'm thinking
52:22
here's the thing if I've got three
52:24
leading the way in my mind
52:26
I get three shots right so
52:28
barring any hints that
52:30
clarified sure I'm going to say it is
52:32
I'm going to say it's the in a tech
52:36
I'm going to say this is a
52:50
this is not the in a trod
52:56
office space shout out there
53:00
what can I do to help you friend and this is actually the in tech
53:02
I just always call it the in a tech
53:04
I think it is the in tech from
53:06
from office space it's always
53:08
more like penetrode
53:10
exactly what can I help you with man
53:18
I can't think of it being any other
53:22
domestic manufacturer am I correct
53:28
is a domestic manufacturer okay
53:36
could be the other Lincoln
53:38
I because I mentioned
53:40
I mentioned the S type
53:42
and that's got a stable mate which is the Lincoln
53:44
LS which I was thinking about
53:54
that car famously you can get
54:00
I wish you could get a manual with the 88
54:04
God am I going to go back
54:06
to back Lincoln guess
54:18
have I seen the North Star
54:22
because it could have you
54:26
okay and that was why I was
54:30
could be Aurora too
54:34
located entirely within
54:36
my kitchen the thing is
54:48
talk about it or imprinted on every surface
55:04
bold aggressive I almost
55:06
want to say we've done the Aurora before
55:08
but I don't know that we have
55:14
she had this would have been the early Aurora
55:16
so it'd been like a 95
55:20
certainly bold and aggressively styled
55:22
I don't know if I would call it sporty personally
55:26
and you know what's interesting
55:30
they called it the blank
55:38
a critical reader here guys
55:42
that's that was Oldsmobile's thing then
55:46
it's back like when Chrysler it wasn't the Chrysler
55:48
Imperial it was just the Imperial
55:50
and then people realized like the fuck is an Imperial
55:52
so then it became the Imperial by Chrysler
55:58
by Maserati yeah yeah and they did that
56:00
and they did that with
56:02
with the Aurora so I'm gonna say
56:10
that sick light bar and the four liter
56:14
what do they call that motor
56:16
they would just call it the Aurora V8
56:20
that they put in the Shelby Series 3 which is fun
56:22
um that's what I'm gonna say
56:26
by Oldsmobile final answer
56:28
all of which make the left hand laying a much more
56:30
enjoyable place to be
56:32
Aurora by Oldsmobile
56:36
which is the first year 32 valve
56:38
it's a 4.6 so it is a North Star
56:42
nope 4.6 it's the derived from the
56:44
it's pretty much the North Star V8 that's in the Cadillac
56:46
I thought they down
56:48
I thought it was slightly downsized like the bores were a little
56:50
I think it makes a little less
56:52
power in this application but yeah
56:54
no that's the motor and fun fact
56:56
there isn't a single Oldsmobile
57:00
yeah I think the only place that has
57:06
the cover of the owner's manual or something like that
57:08
the engine cover had it on there and a lot of times
57:10
they almost consider getting that out of there
57:14
yeah have you have you driven one
57:16
so I've driven the newer one which I think is even
57:18
the second the rear is so
57:20
crazy the front end is really wonky
57:22
I mean the front ends wonky on both
57:24
but on the second gen it's got like the big
57:28
yeah it looks like if
57:34
and like you pulled them up from the
57:36
depths of the ocean too quickly and you like turned into goo
57:38
like that's kind of what the front end would look like
57:40
happens to the best of us
57:42
this second I think the second gen was cooler
57:44
looking I think you're right the lower
57:46
front fascia and then the light
57:48
treatment on the rear of the second gen is
57:50
it's kind of cool and the huge
57:54
yeah they're interesting I've had some
57:56
seat time in one there's one I sold
58:00
and go see Doug's review on
58:02
that car so I sent it down to San Diego
58:04
and Doug got some seat
58:06
time in it they're pretty interesting they
58:08
way more comfortable like I drove the
58:10
second gen and it's way more comfortable than sporty
58:14
the first gen one like the one in the
58:16
ad there which is actually a very similar color
58:18
was like a purplish gray
58:22
really interesting the
58:24
dash layout was super unique like they were really
58:26
trying to do something different it was a little
58:28
bit more obviously GM in the second
58:32
and then they made a v6 variant
58:34
which was they actually
58:36
modified that same v8 and it made a 3.5
58:40
that 32 valve v8 so it was
58:44
a shame when they got the
58:46
3800 Buick kicking around but whatever
58:48
yeah yeah that was a good one
58:52
I had to dig through
58:56
you weren't thinking north star man you weren't thinking
58:58
north star at first that's not a north star
59:00
it's an aurora it's different
59:04
but no that's a good one it's
59:06
good little piece of automotive history
59:08
cool well good job with that
59:10
man you did well you did well the
59:12
aurora we hadn't done that one yet so
59:14
cool car worthy of a call out very
59:16
original design but let's
59:18
move forward into a little recreational
59:22
is our pcp project car progress
59:24
section and have you made
59:26
any progress my friend on anything
59:36
my brain is soup how much
59:38
how much of update on
59:40
last episode did I give
59:46
project focus because I do have
59:48
you hadn't gotten to
59:52
where you're getting the pushback that you're getting
59:54
right now on that project you hadn't gotten into that
59:58
want to say I did I had mentioned
00:00
that I did the driver's side
00:02
so I replaced the driver's side axle
00:04
oh yeah everything was going to the tires
00:06
everything was going swimmingly
00:08
swimmingly swimmingly I'm now
00:12
I don't know smashing my junk
00:18
yeah I don't kink shame so
00:20
no it's fine if you're into that
00:22
yeah I just I'd be ashamed if I got it up
00:24
because keeping it soft is cool
00:26
everyone's doing it the thing okay
00:28
so I swapped out the axle
00:30
and the outer tie rod and
00:36
sway bar end link on the driver's
00:38
side right simple enough
00:42
pretty pretty easily I did
00:46
and get the sway bar end link and
00:48
the the tie rod end because
00:52
I didn't really see that they were as bad as they were
00:54
until they had the wheel off to do the axle
00:58
popped them all in mevotech
01:00
now I bought I got them locally
01:02
because I was like I just want to
01:04
get this thing back together so I can
01:06
get the project moving ahead
01:10
I bought that but if I'm going to do the
01:12
tie rod end and the end link on the driver's side
01:14
I'm going to pop the passenger side off and do that
01:16
so I did I popped the passenger side
01:18
wheel off got the wrenching on that
01:20
right when I got the wheel off I was like oh shit this
01:22
actual this axle is actually bonked
01:28
it was gonna take too long to get it from
01:32
and so I ordered it
01:34
through Napa auto parts
01:36
they're the only one that can get it for me
01:38
because it's SVT specific
01:42
anyways they said oh yeah it'll be here in two days
01:46
five days go by they never called me
01:48
so I called them and they're like oh yeah man it's here
01:50
like they just never called me great cool
01:52
so I went there I grabbed it
01:54
I go to install it a couple of days
02:02
everything went perfect pacified
02:04
everything's a fucking mess
02:08
cannot for the life of me
02:12
ball joint to come out of the
02:14
knuckle I got it unseated
02:18
it will not come all the way
02:20
out I've done a little bit of homework
02:24
reaching out to you I'm like am I
02:28
stupid here and just can't figure I'm
02:30
missing something obvious you're like did you try this
02:32
yeah how about this uh-huh how about this
02:34
yeah I did that and this and this oh shit
02:36
and it just every single thing was just
02:38
like it just wasn't going to come out and I don't
02:44
right up against it as far as budget on this
02:46
thing my my $3,500 cap to the
02:48
point where like if I don't spend another
02:50
cent on this car I still
02:52
might not be able to afford an alignment
02:54
which I have to have to
02:56
yeah I have to so I might have to take penalty
02:58
points on that I'm or just like
03:00
find some hood rat place it's going to do
03:02
like I might even just have to end up doing a
03:04
two like just a front end alignment
03:06
in order in order to stay within budget
03:08
because that's right now
03:10
if I get the alignment done
03:12
by the less swab down the street after
03:14
mountain balance it would be $47
03:20
and that's without me doing the valve cover gasket
03:28
so we'll see um I might have to get a little
03:30
bit creative but at the end of it is
03:32
I had I had to the bolt
03:38
where it bounced to the knuckle it got to the
03:40
top and just locked and then it's got you
03:42
know it's got where you could put the
03:46
in the top to hold it from
03:50
stripped that out so I had to take an
03:52
angle grinder do it
03:54
and cut it off which was easy enough
03:56
but I always assume it's going to blow up
03:58
and like decapitate me oh every time I
04:00
hate those fucking tools so
04:02
um got that off still cannot
04:08
off the knuckle and I just like
04:10
beating the bejesus out of it with a
04:12
like a five pound dead blow
04:14
can't get it to can't get it to come out
04:18
a huge breaker bar with a floor jack
04:22
nope do nothing I just
04:26
breaker bar with a cheater extension
04:28
on it nothing like I just cannot
04:30
get it to separate out and I can't
04:32
afford to trash that lower
04:34
ball joint because it's riveted
04:36
into the control arm and I don't have money
04:38
in the budget to replace the control arm
04:44
for seven dollars and ninety nine
04:46
cents which all it is it's
04:48
a hook it's one of that
04:50
if you've seen it it's like a breaker bar hook that you just
04:52
hook on the lower control arm
04:54
and it's it's got like a picture like
04:56
a question mark except where the tail is
04:58
it goes into a circle so you put it on
05:00
lower control arm you put the pivoted
05:02
it up break breaker bar through it and
05:04
then you pivot it off the yep
05:06
yep and you just yank it was
05:08
Amazon it came this morning
05:10
I haven't had it I haven't had an opportunity
05:12
and I will have an opportunity this weekend
05:14
to deal with it but
05:16
I'm hoping that's it because otherwise I have
05:18
I'm pulling the entire lower control arm
05:22
or or I go the other
05:26
I take the strut out
05:28
which I don't want to do
05:32
I'd rather deal with the control arm
05:36
so you know in those bushings
05:38
the subframe for the lower control arm
05:40
are worn are worn so like
05:44
I can damage the control arm from that
05:46
end right if that bushing tears
05:48
okay now I got to buy
05:50
a control arm and I have to like I don't know return
05:52
my windshield or like return my tires
05:54
and get some ling longs like I don't
05:58
I gotta make budget so we'll see
06:00
what was like oh like a couple of
06:10
how's about you I think I think you'll make it
06:12
through there I wish I was
06:14
making a progress report on my rally car
06:16
because I haven't I haven't so we're going to
06:18
talk about the track right I actually got some pretty good
06:20
progress on the tracker I'll be real quick because I think
06:22
we're over on time but the
06:24
track right just did the wheels
06:26
last time they came out awesome
06:28
like I'm so pumped that I went it was a little risk
06:30
you know I always like to do like that I'm straight up
06:32
restoration guy and bring the staley's
06:34
back but I was like fuck it we're doing gloss
06:36
white wheels because it just pops to the white top
06:38
hell yeah red came out great
06:40
the paint is it was
06:42
it's single stage paint right so it's
06:44
like every other single stage red paint it's
06:46
like pasty chalky peak
06:48
right and everything fades
06:50
differently after 30 years paint just it just
06:52
you can't ever bring it all the way
06:54
back but do just taking a
06:56
d.a. polisher to it doing like compound
06:58
polish and wax so satisfying
07:00
on those red cars because it just it always
07:04
even if you think it's like oh I think this might come out
07:06
okay it will always come out better than
07:08
you expect it looks so good done
07:10
obviously there's some panels that are faded differently
07:12
the hood and sure you know but you're
07:14
going to get that but I mean the gloss factor
07:16
is there like that it just the difference of having
07:18
glossy paint versus like a flat matte
07:20
finish is huge with these trucks
07:22
so it looks the bright white
07:24
top the bright white wheels with that
07:26
glossy red paint it just looks
07:28
absolutely fantastic
07:30
it's worth every every because it's all time
07:32
right at that point you already have I already
07:34
have the materials it just
07:36
takes so goddamn long to do that stuff man
07:38
because you get all done you get done with the
07:40
compound right and you're like oh god now to
07:42
polish now to wax it just
07:44
takes it takes for fucking ever
07:46
and you get fucking compound in every little
07:48
crack on these old cars that have so many
07:50
huge seams that just fill
07:52
with that shit so yeah you gotta deal with that
07:54
but anyway worth every every I wouldn't take it back
07:56
for the world I think that's one of the best things
07:58
you can do don't old truck like that to make it look good
08:00
and to keep the paint on there that's
08:02
on there right because that extra gloss and
08:04
putting a good coat of wax will protect it
08:08
spare tire cover that I imported from France
08:10
that says geo tracker with the white lettering
08:12
on the black tire cover
08:14
that it's all those little pieces that come together
08:16
when I do a restoration and I think
08:18
I think that really tied the whole truck together
08:20
it looks dude it looks so good
08:22
it looks so fucking good
08:24
I need to like put it aside
08:26
though to get the fucking rally car
08:28
done because I really want to finish the tracker so
08:30
the tracker is pretty much at
08:32
a finished date barring anything interesting
08:34
that's going to pop up which I'm sure there is going to be
08:36
no no never yeah I know
08:38
as a project ever finished but yeah let's
08:40
shut it down really quick style
08:42
let's go yeah guys thanks
08:44
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09:00
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09:04
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09:24
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09:26
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09:28
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