Episode #196 - What Makes a Competent 90's Daily?

In a world with a diary too many shows about cars, this is another pointless automotive podcast.

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One can imagine.

You know what else was popular in the 1990s?

Oh, that's a good one.

No, not Anilingus.

Cars.

And they're still popular, some say.

Big if true.

Yep.

But I had this thought.

So, I live right next to a high school.

And so, I get to see some of the cars come and go.

Like high school kid cars.

And I noticed the other day, like, it was like four cars in a row,

just parked in the high school parking lot.

Three of them were Lexus LS 400s.

No shit.

Like mid to late 90s LS 400s.

Like that second gen LS 400?

Yeah, yeah.

And I was like, holy shit.

Like LS 400 gang.

Like, let's go.

And it makes sense, right?

At this point, those are probably like grandparent hand-me-down cars.

And because they were so damn reliable.

Yep.

And usually pretty well kept if it was from the original owner

because they spent a bunch of money on them.

Safe.

Of course, that would be safe transportation.

And safe.

And you would feel good about like handing that down to your grandchild.

And so it makes a lot of sense that you're going to see those cars,

even though they're 30-ish years old, right?

But yeah, a good first car daily driver for somebody.

And it kind of got me thinking, what?

And not for a high school kid necessarily,

but maybe idiots like you or I, right?

We decide, hey, life is short.

Not, what was that?

Was it Ashley Madison?

Do you remember the commercials for that?

Life is short.

Haven't a fair.

Right.

And it was just like a Super Bowl commercial.

Am I getting trolled?

And the world around us has gotten way weirder since then, actually.

Dude, that is nothing.

And also when those commercials aired, it was like having a fair

and everybody's like, how dare they?

And then it leaked out that like tens of millions of people.

Oh, it was all dudes and bots?

Yeah.

It was like 100% men and bots.

So life is short.

Haven't a fair.

Daily driving 90s car.

And so I just wanted to discuss like if,

because I kind of would honestly entertain the idea.

I think it'd be really fun to daily a 90s car.

And there's a lot of different ways you can do it.

Some are worse than others.

Like I had mentioned previously that I would love to have an FDRX7.

That's going to be pretty low on the list of cars that you,

90s cars that you should daily.

Yeah.

It's too nice.

Too notoriously cantankerous and unreliable.

Sure.

With specialized parts in this and that.

And I guess Moss is bringing, they're starting to make parts

for those cars again, which is dope.

That's so cool.

But kind of more what I'm getting at.

And that's a, not super valuable, but like what,

what are good options for somebody who wants to daily

a 90s car realistically, right?

Right.

Well, you know, you could daily an early Diablo or Diablo.

Yeah.

I mean, you could, but no.

Yeah.

I mean, you could.

A reasonable person in a reasonable budget, reasonable budget.

Yeah.

Like what, what would we, you and I, and,

and like-minded clowns daily for a 90s car?

Like let's just, let's talk it out.

Yeah.

Cause you could ironically pilot anything, right?

And you might not be the happiest.

Yeah.

I mean, I mean, that's not really pushing.

That's pretty reliable.

We'll be on the seventh.

If it's that, if it's a first gen, you're like talking

at seventh transmission by now.

True.

Yeah.

Absolutely.

And we are talking about like dailying a 90s car today

because we daily 90s cars in the 90s.

Right.

At least I did.

So that's a thing already.

But yeah.

Cause there's a lot to consider.

But like we said though, I think 80s,

there's a drastic shift in modernity.

I think between 80s and 90s cars for the most part,

especially when you get to the mid or late 90s,

I still feel that those are pretty modern.

I still consider that a modern car.

I don't know why.

In my head, the OBD2 cutoff is modernity.

I don't know why it just works.

Project modernity return to tradition.

Yeah.

That's it, baby.

Right.

Return to monkey.

So edgy, edglerty.

It's for me though, it's like, what's the use case, right?

Like what's your, what's your budget?

What are you looking to achieve?

Do you have a like horrible grinding commute?

Are you pinching pennies where you need to have fuel economy?

Do you have a lot of people you need to haul around there?

There's all those factors, but as just 90s transportation,

I kind of love the late 90s, 98, 99 Toyota Camry.

I think you could, without first thing, you go on.

Absolutely.

You go under, cause it will get you to work every day,

which we need to do.

It'll get you under the radar.

No one looks twice at a 99 Camry in beige, beige cloth.

Right.

4M9 gold faded into silver.

You just go, you literally do oil changes.

And then a time belt water pump every like fucking 10 years,

depending on the mileage you're putting on.

Those are not an appearance.

So fuck it.

Yeah.

Or you just do it at the, the interval is when the car shuts off.

Yeah.

Absolutely.

But the V6 is pretty cool too.

That's good low motor.

Either way, whatever flavor you get,

that thing's going to get you reliably anywhere.

And it doesn't matter that it's a now a 30 year old car,

nearly 30 year old car.

I think that car gets it done.

I think that's no question.

That or a Corolla,

if you're a young person looking for your first car,

like the high school scenario you're saying,

I would, if I stuck my kid first off,

kind of a punishment, but anyway,

stick them in a vanilla beige car like that

and just don't worry about anything.

There's not much to worry about Frank.

First off, you're oh, so close.

Cause you picked the wrong gen Camry.

Is that true?

The previous gen, which you can get as a wagon,

you can get as a coupe, get a 96.

And here's the thing Toyota in,

here's a little known fact.

So OBD2 rolled out in 1996.

Globally.

Correct.

Right.

And it was, it was a mandate.

Like that's the cutoff.

Toyota actually introduced it two years early.

So you have like a 95.

It's got an OBD2 port.

Some 94, there's like a production level,

but it's like, I believe almost,

if not all 95s actually have an OBD2 port

and some 94s.

But yeah, like you can get like a 96 SE coupe,

which you know, if you don't need to haul a bunch of people,

great, get the coupe, or get the sedan,

or get the wagon, right?

Like that's the gen Camry that I have in my head cannon

as like this peak Camry.

And very, it's effectively the same powertrain.

It's a powertrain he tried to say.

And so yeah, I mean, those are,

those are great kind of, you know, pick your,

I am a little wary of a 90s Corolla.

Simply because they're kind of flimsy,

like that gen Corolla safe like crash worthiness.

And this is just my, this is like fueled by vibes, right?

Yeah, I'm not Pontiac.

I mean like vibes, because it's like,

I don't, is an early, is like a 94 Camry

that much more crash worthy than a 99 Corolla?

No, probably not.

But like it feels, it feels much more substantive.

And so maybe I don't know.

It's that build quality that gets you.

And well, sure, exactly.

But like to your point, 90s,

you could pick almost any 90s Toyota, not named a Tercel.

I mean, well, an MR2 would probably be impractical.

And look, I have on my list,

if you don't need to haul people,

if you want a cool daily,

like commuter daily,

an SW20NA MR2

would be a killer commuter.

It'd be super cool.

But care and feeding is pretty easy.

It's the same powertrain out of that Camry.

It's like the five SFV is an all time reliable engine.

Sure is.

I'm going to water pump,

change the oil so you don't have sludge issues.

It's a good thing to do.

And you're great.

It's a pain in the ass to work on,

but you never have to work on it.

Look, we're getting on the...

We're bordering on the...

Yeah, I could daily anything.

I don't think it's a great daily in the sense

the space is super limited in those.

If you need to haul anything.

And if you live anywhere with...

Trailer.

If you live anywhere where they have a thing,

this concept called weather,

in the winter, in the winter months,

I kind of think an SW20 is going to be absolute shit.

Even you'd have to put the best snow tires

and even then, there's going to be someone in that 90s Corolla

just happily going down the road next to you

and going like this while you're watching your ass

like flip around backwards.

Man, I don't know.

At least here in California with no snow.

I think you can do it.

If you're in rural Maine,

like your goal is forever,

then you're in trouble.

If you're in Dead Horse, Alaska,

like don't get the MR2, I suppose.

There is weather,

but I don't think it would rank

on the echelon of dailyable.

I don't think it's up there.

I like the idea.

Would I buy that over the Camry every day of the week?

I think daily the shit out of that car.

I don't think it's as good as the daily.

Like if you have, like for me in my mind...

Yeah, we're aware.

We're aware.

It's a bad place.

Don't go there.

There's not a lot of logic floating around.

Well, no.

My wife, her daily is an 07 Highlander hybrid.

It's like maybe tomorrow is going to turn 130K.

Which is dope because we bought it with like 91.

So we're like at 60,000 miles into it.

Anyways, we're like, if that's like the go and like,

let's go to Tahoe, we take that car

and I need something that's like kind of cool

and like I could drop the kid off at school in,

but that's kind of it.

Yeah.

And then commute and drive from spot to spot

and throw my camera bag in it and go.

Like that's a valid use case.

I can do that in that car.

And look fucking cool.

That's a great use case,

but we started off with like the high school parking lot

or the person with one car.

That's a great high school car.

Also, I think the daily can't be your like third car.

Like that already talking.

No, this would be the second car.

You guys have the Highlander hybrid.

I think for people with one car,

I don't know if it's the best use case.

I just, I don't, it's not the best use case.

I think it's a better daily than like an NA or NBE.

Miata.

Miatas have huge trunks.

Yeah, they really do.

I don't know.

Frunk in a brunk.

Both of which are highly...

Are you familiar with MC Hammer's song,

Pumps and a Bump?

This is true.

You should listen to it.

You should listen to that later.

It's very similar.

But yeah, I've probably been like 20 years.

I'm not going to die on this hill

because it is not far away,

but not the most practical.

But on my mental list here.

However, what it does check,

it's stone reliable.

Reliable, yeah.

Parts are most of the like maintenance parts anyways.

Like window regulators and stuff.

I'm not sure.

But like maintenance parts,

cheap and available everywhere.

It's not the easiest thing to work on,

but it's not impossible.

And cool factors off the charts.

Cool.

For sure.

But I think...

See how I'm approaching this exercise differently.

Yeah, in 90s daily,

I don't think like,

well, we have a brand new fucking Islander,

but we also have a fucking Hugo.

No.

But if I was single,

if I was single,

that would be a kick-ass daily.

You kidding me?

Yeah.

Here's the thing.

I have way more practical shit on my list.

Like peak practicality?

Yeah.

With your first,

I went like the bottom of practicality on my list.

I saw that.

Oh, at least you're admitting it's the bottom.

Okay, what else do you think

that is like maybe somewhere in between

the 2C bit engine pretend Ferrari

and the family Huxter?

How about...

What's in between?

I could daily a late 90s manual Maxima V6.

Yeah.

That would be like any 90s.

Those late ones are super rare in a manual.

I think they're so cool.

I think that's the trim only.

Yeah.

But the space in there is fantastic.

Storage is fantastic.

Reliabilities through the roof.

I think that's a cool,

daily-able 90s car where you wouldn't feel

like you're making like any kind of like

serious compromise that like jeopardizes

your ability to reliably show up to a destination

and haul people around.

Or if that was like your one car

for your young family,

just trying to pull yourself up

by your bootstraps.

I think that's kind of a car that can get it done

and not be like a penalty box.

Yeah.

No, I think...

Yeah, that would be good.

That would be cool.

Again, easy to work on parts.

Yeah.

Cheap running cars.

Yep, good power.

Fun, engaging.

Flies under the radar.

Maybe not...

Not Camry levels.

Almost more so than the Camry.

Because they did clean-ass Camry.

Like, wow, that's a clean-ass Camry.

Cool.

It was a maxima.

People just look like...

It's just like a pixelated Japanese adult film scene.

Yeah, I think this is happening.

It's just going to be like a thing.

It's in your periphery

and you don't even really pay attention to it.

Right.

Similar vibe.

I think that's a good daily

like where you could like get away with it.

And it wouldn't be...

Like for me, a daily is something I go...

I start and I drive.

I don't think about it.

I don't think about not being able to get to where I need to get.

If something goes bad, I don't panic

because I know it's $22, whatever it is.

Sure.

And I think that's a cool car too.

I think it's kind of understated, cool.

You know what I have that's actually most similar

to your first two offerings?

Hmm.

Is an E430 Sport.

Mercedes.

Okay.

So that's going to be the W210 sedan.

We never got the V8 wagon, sadly.

Yeah.

And an E320 wagon is dope.

That would be better.

They're cool.

Maybe not better, but that would be an option.

But specifically, you can get an E430 Sport

which they're very well built.

Maybe not like W124 well built,

but they're still incredibly well built

and they've proven to be outrageously reliable

as far as powertrain is concerned.

Yeah.

Very understressed.

The motor is understressed.

There's no timing belt you need to worry about changing.

Like worst case scenario every 50,000 miles

you're doing like a valve cover gasket.

Oh my.

And that's servicing that transmission.

The five-speed auto is an auto, but it's a daily.

We're talking dailies here, right?

Right.

So a manual is a bonus.

It's not a requirement.

And the Sport package, you got those cool

five-spoke wheels, subtle trim.

It's a 275 horsepower sedan.

Eminently daily.

Like you can date.

Like it feels, it feels, I don't want to say,

I mean, for the likes of us, it feels modern.

Yeah.

Mercedes is weird because even they're like

more recent stuff doesn't feel as modern

as like a Japanese car in a lot of cases.

Like tech-wise.

I mean, they're recent.

They're nice.

Like a 2024, 25, whatever.

Yeah.

It does.

It's like screens, on screens, on screens.

Sure.

It's all it is.

Yeah.

But these cars are their like classic Benz door shut.

Yep.

Slabs.

Slabs of material.

Yep.

And you can put a casual 300,000 miles on those cars.

You know, I like.

And they say parts are cheap and available

and accessible.

I like this choice because it's like,

it shows you're a more discerning buyer.

You get a Mercedes Benz.

You're not driving a Toyota.

Perfect one.

I mean, that'd be perfect one for like 50,000 miles.

E430 sedans, like $5,800.

Oh, sure.

They're not expensive.

Yeah.

I would argue that like mileage to mileage

condition to condition your 99 Camry

next to an E430.

The Camry is going to go for more money.

Yeah.

Which is madness to think about.

That turns into tax.

They're almost as reliable.

Like, but it's, it's, it's just funny how like time

changes opinions and values and whatever,

but both would make a great daily.

That's a good.

But that's probably the most like ho hum sedan

that I have on my like.

Roll it X here for 90s cars.

Because I.

Hmm.

I.

Not to counter yours.

Like reasonable sedan situation.

But for me, part of the part of the thought of like,

I want a 90s car to daily is you're doing it because

you want something cool to daily.

Sure.

Otherwise you would just not have a 90s car as a daily.

So there is a balance.

And I, and I do think a perfect Camry and a perfect,

especially five speed maximum would be a sick daily.

God be great.

What else?

What else are you thinking about sedans or otherwise?

Well, I think an easy one just close to your Mercedes

actually.

And the first thing you said to with the LS is I really like

the mid 90 late 90s.

Yes.

Whether it be 300 or 400, I think that is a sick daily.

That's a.

Absolutely comfortable cruiser.

Right.

You know what I have on my list top of it.

I just wrote any Lexus.

Yeah.

We always are going to go there.

Right.

But yeah, like the GS is good.

You're talking first gen or early.

Either you either one feels.

I mean, just for the sake of being more modern,

I think I'd like a 98.

Yes.

400 is so sick to in green with a nice tan interior and mint

condition.

See, I picture it in that blue color.

I like the blue, but that dark green with the blue looks.

Yeah.

It's so premium and they look, they look so good still.

And they clean one.

They can get up and go legit.

Like we talked about it.

Tickling 300 horsepower.

Yeah.

That's a good car.

Talk about, and like reliability off the charts.

Looks good.

It looks, it's super premium materials.

Yeah.

Fantastic.

I think that's a, that's a daily you wouldn't even worry

about.

That's like a no brainer.

And they can be had so cheap.

The GS's are so cheap.

If you can find a good one.

Most of them are pretty spot.

I've seen some.

I know they are side show.

Special Bob's.

Yeah.

It means it's German.

It means that the bar, the, but no, it's a, I think if you do,

and I do see clean ones from time to time,

the mileage is always high cause they are driven,

but I've seen some pretty clean ones show up in that way.

Talking like 65, 7,000.

Yeah.

For like a premiumly clean one of the decent mileage.

So that's a lot of car.

My friend.

Yeah.

We kind of already hit that with the LS as far as other

stuff.

I mean, can you go, I've been having this itch.

I want to scratch is an EK Honda Civic hatchback.

Yeah.

I love the hatch.

The EK hatch is so cool.

I've owned like so many as I, or so many.

So hard to have one and not, can you imagine having one and

like not motor swap stock, like completely stock and not

even like, it would be worth a lot cause that car doesn't

exist today.

But yeah, I would get the manual.

I'd get the, the D with a little more power cause I think

the, the, you're always getting the D.

Get the D.

Get the D here.

But you don't want to get the C because the CX because

that's the power one.

You want the D.

You don't want the C.

I mean, they're kind of the same thing.

I guess.

Well, I mean the word in 20, 25.

But no, like, yeah, I mean you can, cause when did they,

was it only the E, was it the EG that got the SI.

Yep.

The B, the B series.

Well, they didn't have, so they didn't have an

for the EK generation.

The SI came, remember at the end and it was just the

Coupe.

So you could, we never got a spicy hatchback with the

EK generation, but I still love them and they're still

modern.

Yeah.

Get yourself a VX with the, the cool wheels.

Yeah.

They're, the cool, that's a cool daily.

They're cool.

90s daily.

They're cool.

I'm still, I don't know.

I still clutch my pearls a little bit about like

getting in a wreck in one of those, cause I feel like

you're, getting it stolen is the, the real threat.

Right.

That's the big one.

Yeah.

That is the big one.

So back in, in the, my old insurance days, um, I was

the designated, apparently you had to like, you

had to take like one full day of training to be

like theft certified.

Oh.

Progressive.

And it was, so I was, I was the theft to

designate the Bay Area.

And so I'd go to the recovered thefts and, and if you

would do, we would take engine oil samples and send

them off to a Blackstone equivalent to make sure

like, Oh, the motor has been like blown up for a

long time.

Like I wonder why your car got stolen, right?

Right.

So we do, we do that.

We would do all kinds of stuff to make sure it

was legitimately stolen and probably, and I'm not

exaggerating, probably 80% of the recovered thefts

were like 96 to 2002 Honda Civics.

So easy to take.

Yeah.

That's like everyone.

What I think is exactly at the same alley, but

just a little bit more livable is a car that I

talk about probably too much.

Integra.

Integra, Integra GSR sedan, specifically sedan.

God, they're not cheap anymore though.

No, they're not.

And you can't find them.

Yeah.

When they, when you can, they're great.

And, and when they're clean, they're cool.

And I know there's a lot of like anti sedan people

out there to the point where it's like, well, no,

it's an Integra.

It's got to be a coupe.

But I think for daily duty, you like put my,

my, my history of wanting a sedan in general

aside for a, for daily duty, having a GSR sedan.

Yeah.

It checks all the boxes.

It's fun.

It's Revi.

It's bubbly.

You bring that to any event.

Cars and coffee and be like, this is my daily.

Like.

That's cool.

That's a cool car.

Yeah.

Like 98, like, like facelifted or whenever, right?

Dude.

Doesn't matter.

Find a non-modified, non-clapped out 98 GSR manual

four door.

They're all manual.

Find one right now.

Yeah.

I mean, I, that's what I'm saying.

Literally can't find one with under 400,000 miles.

Yes.

And automatic LS is, you can find, and they're still

clapped out.

It's like.

People still want 12.

Yeah.

It's so wild.

How about a vigor?

You can find an accurate vigor, get a little five cylinder

manual action.

You could.

Legend.

Legend sedan.

Even though we know the coupe is the better looking.

But I think, I still think the Integra, the Integra sedan.

Because here's the thing.

Like if I'm going to, if I'm looking at a, if I'm looking

at like an automatic legend sedan.

Oh, you get a manual, but yeah.

Right.

Like I'd rather, I'd rather just have any Lexus offering.

True.

Yeah.

Even ES.

Perhaps a purple manual cloth seated.

ES.

Does that exist?

I've heard they do.

Yeah.

So I think, yeah, I think that would be a good one.

What else?

What else are you chewing on over there?

Boy, I was trying to think of something domestic to bring

into this conversation.

It's hard, right?

It's really hard.

I have.

I have a lear.

What are you thinking?

It could be, you know what?

Actually, I'll go back.

I'll back to my old stomping grounds.

I would, I would not mind getting a.

Of course.

Nope.

I love those cars.

Like a Grand Prix GXP or something could be very

daily able to 3800s robust.

Yeah.

It's fun.

It's quirky enough.

And a Bonneville would be fun.

An SSC or SSCI supercharged.

Those are very comfortable, reliable, cool cars.

And you get them for nothing.

Like they literally are valueless.

So, you know, so for domestics, I was thinking on my

end of, and this is again, back to like teetering

on practical, impractical, whatever.

Mm hmm.

Dude, just like an F body Camaro.

Yeah.

You can daily one.

Fuel economy.

Not perfect.

Not well.

And I'm thinking, and I'm thinking specifically

earlier.

Full 90s, right?

So LT one.

Oh.

Because what LS LS came in 97 or 98.

I have never seen you be the kind of person to

pass on an iron Duke, but okay.

Well, I couldn't get an iron Duke in the 90s.

No, but you.

Well, not in a, not on a Camaro anyways.

Yeah.

I should have worn that and some other stuff, but yeah.

Yeah.

You're right.

Yeah, they did.

Look at you.

The LLV.

But no, the, um, yeah, you can daily one of those

or firebird, you know, WS six firebird would be a

sick daily.

They're easy as hell to drive.

Like, oh, it's all those powerful.

It's got this big Ram air and whatever.

And the clutch is super soft.

Overboosted.

Those are six to eight.

WS sixes.

Yeah.

No, they're 68.

Um, what's weird is like a lot of like the collector

edition and all these ones, people squirreled them

away.

And so more of them have fewer mileage than you would

expect late 90s firehawk late 90s.

Uh, WS sixes are like 15 K dude.

Yeah.

It's fucking silly.

That's the world.

The world.

That feels like a good deal though.

It's still a lot of car.

Dude, not even that long ago, you could get it

like a C five zero six for that price though.

And that's true.

That's a significantly higher.

A lot of car.

Yeah.

But what's cooler?

Like today, like right now.

If what am I doing?

Cool scale.

Just just the cool scale.

Yeah.

WS six.

Like a yellow WS six on a track.

Who's having fun?

Oh, you.

Yeah.

For sure.

But just cool scale like roll up to a cars and

coffee.

Dude, you're so cool.

A perfect WS six or a perfect C five zero six.

Give me the, give me the bird.

No, those little Pontiac shipboxes are good.

Like a Grand Prix or Bonneville or even a

gate and grand am if I had to.

I've got a speaking going back to sedan land.

What about a 2.5 RS sedan?

Just coming off the top.

They're so pricey for what they are.

I agree.

They're overpriced.

I because we didn't get any spicy GC eights.

That's the issue.

Right.

So people want that body style.

You're going to pay a premium.

We're never going to R STI it.

So it's like what's funny is you can, you can get it.

You can get like a GC eight.

Like JDM STI for less than a USDM to five RS.

It's fucking bonkers, right?

Yeah.

That's bonkers.

I like how they look.

And I've considered like building up an NA one

before, but at that point I just get a WRX.

You know, and yeah, that's the math.

The math doesn't math.

You want that's basically the same car, but a little heavier.

Get a legacy GT.

I love those two.

And they're, they're way cheaper.

Yep.

I do the head gas gets every once in a while and you'll be good.

Besides that, I, you know, this is tough, man.

This is tough.

I think obviously I picked the obvious ones.

Like if I was going to put someone in, I always think of

like putting my son, like my son 16 tomorrow.

That's what I picture.

I don't want to shoehorn him into something.

Right.

Scary.

I'm going to be in something scary, but you try not to do that.

Man, it's.

What about trucks?

Yeah, dude.

What about trucks?

Same time.

How about trucks?

Eddie Toyota products from the late nineties.

Yeah.

I'd tell you to pick up.

Again, that's the theme.

Yeah.

We talked about it.

Mazda B 2300 Ranger.

I was going to say for Ranger four by four.

Yep.

Great.

Yeah.

It's a good product.

Parts are free.

Hit the four liter.

Good robust motor.

See, I think I'd, I think I'd want a two, three.

Two, three.

Four liters.

Good dude.

That four liter V six or it is until do they, are they the

ones was it?

No.

They have cam.

I thought they had cam issues.

No, they were fine.

They were fine.

That's a robust motor.

Yeah.

I have issues.

I do.

I have cam trust issues.

Yeah.

Ever since what, what are the cam?

There's cam, cam Newton.

Yeah.

I was going to say cam Newton.

And who's, is it cam Scattaboo in the, the running back for

that's right.

Yeah.

That's a big game.

Yeah.

Beat the Eagles.

Fuck the Eagles.

Yeah.

Whatever.

I feel the cams.

I don't know.

There's other cams out there.

Yeah.

Cam sensors.

Cam sensors scared the shit out of me.

So that's right.

But you know, four Rangers, four Rangers are cool.

What was the truck?

Was it 20?

2013?

2013.

Well Slash few of the Rangers.

They went for net, didn't they?

I don't know.

I think they did.

First I was thinking 2011.

And then I was like, no, no, that was the Crown Vic I

think was 2011.

Oh, you just named another one.

Crown Vic.

I thought about Crown Vic.

I, I can't put it on my list.

So funny thing.

So at the rally, we talked about, we got one of the

on our conversations.

We'll take it back to the rally from last episode.

Yep, yep, yep.

DWA rally, we're talking about like cheap car challenges.

What if we all bought former police vehicles

to bring out a rally?

And I was like, fuck it.

That would look so cool in like the videos

to see like old crown Vicks and Taurus shows.

But no, I think actually I got a sneaky one.

It's maybe not the most reliable.

Taurus show, the newer one.

Oh, yeah.

You can get them for next to nothing.

Yeah, they're free.

Those have 50 horsepower.

The camp's like unwell, they unspot weld

from the front of the camp.

Dude, 350 something ponies though.

All wheel drive, super sedan.

Sorry, that, that, Jen, I was talking 90s.

Like the, I was thinking late 90s, the roundy.

I'm talking like the, oh yeah, yeah.

I was skipping ahead, but yeah.

I was thinking of a former police car

because they did use those for police cars for a while.

Anyway, off topic, but anyway.

Same with the F-body, or what if you did a Fox body,

CHP, CHP build?

Yeah, that'd be fun.

But the Crown Vic's kind of good,

or Grand Marquis if you're fancy and old.

The thing with the Crown Vic is that daily,

is it checks a lot of the boxes, right?

It's like, it's reliable.

You can fit anything and everything into it.

Parts are cheap and available.

You can modify it if you want to.

You could, but like,

there's a huge contingent of car people

that are like Crown Vic's are really cool.

And I don't, they're fine.

They're not cool.

You're just,

and they get like eight miles a gallon.

Which is what you can do if the car is cool.

Yeah.

But like, I just, I don't know.

I don't know.

I thought about it.

I considered it, you know?

Do I go Grand Marquis to like be different?

Yeah, that's what I'm saying, yeah.

Yeah.

90s domestic isn't like a really good place to be.

I'm thinking about like reliability.

It's like, we're not going to say any Chrysler products.

We're going to stay away from that for right now.

A Lincoln, how about a Lincoln LS?

Not reliable.

You can get it with a manual and then base trim.

And the V6 only.

V6.

Yeah, how about like, okay.

What if you have money and you want to max out,

pretend this is like, pretend this is a 1990s video game.

Where you like create your own character.

You have like attribute sliders.

Yeah.

And you want to, money is no object.

And you want to max out ease of use.

You want to max out reliability.

And you want to max out cool.

You can't.

And then maybe slide all the way down like,

like dollars and like, like spend, right?

Like, oh, it's going to cost me a bunch of money.

And maybe max out like ease of finding one.

Yeah.

What about, and what if you just got like a 95 NA auto Supra?

As a daily max cool, max reliability.

Parts are everywhere.

It's just a 2JZ drive.

Autos, why would you go auto though?

Cause you're in bumper to bumper traffic, ease of use.

I'm maxing the ease of use slider.

Remember?

Ah.

Right?

You can get a perfect one for it.

I feel about it.

Still way too much money.

60 grand, which is insane.

God.

Damn, it's so much money.

But you'll look like a God.

Yeah.

All you do is while you're driving,

you just rest your hand on it.

So people like, just think you're like shifting.

Like they don't know.

Same with like an auto NSX, right?

Oh, that's maybe like as a daily,

that's maybe the best.

That might be the only good reason to buy an NSX.

Other than like, I lost my left leg

in a vicious street fight.

Right.

You're trying to justify an automatically in that car.

Yeah.

Daily.

The NSX is so sick daily.

So, but the NSX is totally, first off,

reliable parts are cheap.

Yes.

The trunk is really good.

Yeah, the trunk is really good.

There's a lot of good things about the NSX as a daily

versus like probably cheaper to run.

I bet the Supra, the Supra,

the Supra's gonna be cheaper to run.

Because the NSX has a bespoke motor.

The NSX motor is an NSX motor.

The Supra motor is the same as like that GS300

we were just talking about.

True.

If you blow it up,

if you blow up your automatic NSX motor,

you're done.

Like that is not a cheap repair.

You blow up the motor in your NA auto Supra,

you go to your local pickball

and drag one in a wheelbarrow.

The thing is like NSX motors aren't just blown up.

They're just, they're well.

Same as the Supra?

Yeah, yeah.

I don't know.

The NSX looks like, I don't know,

10 million times better.

Debatable.

No, it's not.

But what's more street cool?

Assuming that nobody,

how about this?

From the, what is more disappointing?

Here's the thing.

Automatic.

If both cars pull up into a parking lot

and there may be 10 parking spaces apart

so they're not influencing the crowds.

I think if somebody walks up to a clean,

whatever, championship white NSX,

they walk up to it.

Yeah, it's still bad.

And then they see it's an auto.

I feel like that's more disappointing

than walking up to a wingless Supra

with the smaller wheels because it's an NA.

And then going, oh, oh, it's an auto.

Of course it's an auto.

On an NSX, you're more like crestfallen.

Like, oh my God, it's an auto.

Bear.

Yeah.

Do you want to hear a funny story?

So when I owned my 93 NSX,

a guy I worked with was getting rid of his used NSX.

That was a salvage title, a 95 Targa.

So it's the manual salvage title.

Oh God, did you salvage $17,000?

He would have let me buy it for like 20.

And I was like, I already got one.

I don't have enough space

because at the time I had the 190E,

16V, Mercedes, and I had my,

and I had a Mazda Speed Miata.

I'm like, I got too many funny,

cool cars right now.

I'm going to pass because it was in good shape.

Yeah.

But it was salvage title.

Right.

How much is that worth now?

It's, it had like 80,000 miles.

So it's probably worth like what?

40 with a salvage title.

Probably more than that.

Yeah, probably more than that.

It really depends on how and when it was salvaged.

It was nothing bad.

It was like a small front end with a sea water flood.

Yeah, no, no, that's horrible.

Yeah, complete burn.

Is that funny to think back

like some of the deals we passed on?

But anyway, how many later run E30, BMW 325?

Well, I have E36 on my list.

Just kind of anything.

E36 is good.

I like the E30 interior a lot more though.

It's far more robust.

Yeah. And the interior is nicer.

The greenhouse is a little better on the E30.

Yep, for sure.

You're right.

This is a little bigger.

It's a little, you know, depending, I just, I don't know.

Either one are pretty good, but like that E30 was like,

I mean, they're launching 84.

Right.

It was pretty long in the tooth

by the time you got there.

It's more of an 80s car.

It is, but I think I take it for like ease of maintenance

for reliability if I'm gonna stack miles on it.

I'd rather work on that.

Sure.

That one than the E36 platform.

Yeah, I can see it as your motor to access, right?

So, yeah, well, I just...

It's an easier interior to work on

because you don't have to actually work on it

versus you're like regluing everything in that E36.

But E30, you know, doing your gauge cluster would be like 15K,

but other than that, right?

Thanks, video.

Yeah.

That's a good one.

How about Volkswagen products?

You know what?

Yeah, I got it.

I got it.

You ready?

A Mark III GTI VR6.

Fuck that dude.

GLI Jetta 99 with a...

I have a pri...

Got to agree.

Yes, I agree.

Yes.

But like 90, that's like six-speed manual?

No, for me, it's like saying get a 996, 911.

That's a 2000s car in my brain.

But it's not.

Those Jettas?

I know, 99, same with the 996.

Like, oh, it's a 90s car.

But the technology there is very early 90s.

Let's be honest with that, Jetta.

Those were real...

And we've talked about it many a time on the pot.

That is peak Volkswagen.

That would be a great daily, dude.

That would be a great, like no question,

and fun, it checks your fun box, right?

Get the six-speed manual.

It flicks my fun bean, if you will.

Yeah, and it double clicks that fun mouse.

It does.

But you could do a VR6 manual one, too.

That'd be cool.

You don't have to go GLI.

Just get a VR6 manual.

Was it the GLX trim, I think?

Yep.

Yeah, those would be good.

You can get it with an auto,

if you want to go full, like you're talking about.

Or how about, if we want to go a little earlier,

how sick would it be to daily a Carrotta?

Not their pricey.

What happened there?

What's up, Mark?

You look at it.

You just look at it.

It's a pretty, pretty...

They've always been pretty.

I've always been loved.

I know.

To me, they've always been pretty,

but, dude, the market just finally realized

that, like, a couple of years back.

Yeah, you can get a G60 for a good rate, though.

Yeah, but nobody wants a G60.

Yeah, it's talking about reliability.

And just like it makes none of the noise at the VR6.

Yeah, no, SLC, right?

Salt Lake City.

That's right.

Yeah, SLC Punk.

Yep.

But, yeah, I mean, there's...

Oh, that's a good one.

I feel like we're just, like,

we're tripping over ourselves with stuff that, like...

We want anyway.

There's a lot, there's just,

guess it turns out, there's a lot of shit you can daily.

Going back to Mercedes, C43 AMG.

Yeah.

C32 AMG.

Yeah, well, C32 was...

2002?

Oh, what is that?

Your thing is C36.

C36 was right in the middle, 96, I think,

but those are so rare.

94, 95, 96, or no, 95, 96, 97.

Okay.

They only had a few hundred.

98 to 01 was the C43.

C43.

Yeah, sorry, C36,

which is like the E36, like, analog, right?

For them, but it only came in automatic.

I love how those look, though.

Little nice, spicy in line six.

I took a, I had a, I sold for CardoNation.

It was a silver over black C43.

Had, like, 80-ish thousand miles.

And I drove that thing down to San Diego

for Doug to do his thing with.

And I left it there and flew home

and it was like...

Easy drive.

Oh, dude, just mob that thing down Highway 5.

Like, it will soak up miles.

It's easy.

It's kind of the end of the era

where, like, Mercedes kind of over-engineered shit.

I had this big fucking suitcase thing.

It had an easy up in it.

And I was like,

how am I gonna get this thing in this fucking car?

And it's got power seats.

And I just, like, power reclined the passenger seat.

Dead fucking flat.

Power, all the way down.

And it's like, what was the use case

that they decided they were gonna have a power reclined seat

that goes completely flat in a sports sedan?

But that's what the, and the doors open, like, way wide open.

And just, like, a little,

there's just little bit that the turning radius

is super tight still, like the 124 and the 201.

And just, like, little bits where you're like,

oh, somebody, like, thought about this a lot.

Which is kind of a lost art.

And it's the same reliable powertrain

as, like, the aforementioned W210, the E430.

So those are good too.

Good car.

Yeah.

GMT 400 Chevy products.

Yep, Trucks, Trucks.

Trucks, there's, who knew?

Rangler?

Rangler, mid-90s Rangler with a 4.0.

With a manual.

As reliable as that's gonna come to you.

The original Grand Cherokee.

You can get it with the 5.2 and then the 5.9.

Get a commander?

Durango R.T., yes.

There's a lot of interesting shit.

There's some fun stuff.

That's, like, is dailyables.

Like, a 90s Explorer.

Yeah, right, the X-P8, yeah, get an X-P8.

Go for it, dude.

Yeah, those are interesting.

I've driven a fair bit.

Super cool.

Yeah, yeah.

Any last honorable mentions?

I think the thing to point out here

is there are still a ton of viable,

like, mid-to-late-90s offerings

that I wouldn't even bat an eye about.

Because I'm not, mister, I need Apple CarPlay.

I can throw one of those plug-in FM.

And you can add one in, yeah.

Dude, if it's got a cigarette lighter,

I can put an FM transmitter in there and I'm good.

That works for me.

G20, Infinity G20 manual.

Oh, yeah, that's easy.

Volvo A50R.

There's a lot of...

There's so much compelling stuff.

There is.

It's me out of the answer, I don't know.

Ooh, me out of the fun.

No, I don't know.

A lot of NVH.

A lot of NVH, yeah.

But yeah, now there's a lot of stuff

and I think 90s is the cutoff.

I think 80s stuff, you're really digging

to find something that feels like modern enough

and reliability at that point.

Yeah, we should do an 80s one.

That would be a lot more challenging.

Yeah, yeah, it would not run us over like in the 90s.

No, yeah.

We wouldn't be able to say any Lexus.

I'll tell you that much.

Literally can't.

Yeah, literally can't.

Pretty much, yeah.

Cool, well, do you want to try

and embarrass me publicly?

Yeah, let me see.

I think I got an ad for you

if you don't mind detail in this fine little segment.

Oh, no, I will though.

So yeah, this is gonna be our print ad quiz game.

In today's titillating episode,

Chadwick here is going to find a print ad

for an automobile from the 80s,

the 90s up until the mid 2000s.

He's gonna read the type copy from it.

He will omit anything super identifying

and it will then be incumbent upon me

to search deep within my soul and my backside

to come up with the make and model

and approximate model here of the vehicle within the ad.

I get 10 minutes.

I get three guesses.

I don't get a phone or friend,

but let's pretend that you're my friend

and that I can phone into you and so play along, right?

Take notes if you want.

Scream at your listening device.

I'm not ready, but I'm gonna pretend like I am.

Chadwick, what do you have for me?

We're gonna get to a man.

Single page spread.

We have the vehicle at the bottom of the page in red

with a kayak strapped to the roof.

Oh boy, okay.

Yeah, and there's like a, absolutely brilliant.

It's a Miata.

There's a brilliant lake in the background, mountains.

Folks are out on another kayak.

It's just, it's absolutely beautiful, dude.

It's idyllic.

It is, it is idyllic.

And it's like got the fade going between the image

and the written portion.

So it's like a, it's something.

Let me zoom in here,

because this is a font challenged one,

so we'll see what we can do here.

Okay, well, that's gonna kind of work.

Okay, what kind of sports can your sports car do?

Oh, okay.

Got it, sport.

Chief, squirt.

Let me try to break this thing out

in a more digestible format here.

Oh, okay.

You got the pixelation sensation.

Yeah, these things are vintage, wonderful.

Okay, we're ready to go.

How does your sports car handle

when it's loaded down with camping gear,

fish and tackle and mountain bikes?

Okay.

And the closest thing to pavement,

petered out miles ago.

Petered out, a phrase that needs to be in more cars.

Let's bring it back.

Let's bring it, it's not going anywhere.

Then why call it a sports car at all?

Good question.

Fair.

We've designed one with a four-liter V6 engine.

V6.

Rear wheel, ABS and shift.

I don't know if I can name this.

Blank bike like four-wheel drive to go through,

around and over all the stuff

Mother Nature throws at you.

When she's not playing fair.

Well, I don't know why they have to qualify that.

She's doing whatever she wants to do.

Yeah, she's protecting herself.

And one with two-wheel drive when she is,

it's the blank.

Motor trend calls it the, this is the year,

I won't say it, blank this year, truck of the year.

We call it the sports car for sportsmen.

Oh wow, okay.

And now we have a little breakout section

with some technical jargon,

which we actually, this is the stuff we need, right?

That's what we want.

Features a four-liter V6.

Independent front suspension system.

Okay.

Hauer steering, rear wheel anti-lock brakes.

Sure.

Two-wheel drive model available.

Optional leather package.

The blank also comes with a blah, blah, blah warranty.

Frank?

Ooh, okay.

What truck are we talking about?

Motor trends truck of the year and whatever year it was.

Oh boy.

Okay, so now on the clock.

I don't have a ton to chew on.

IFS, right?

So we got independent front suspension.

We have a V6 of four liters.

Four-liter V6.

We have four-wheel drive,

but you can get it in two-wheel drive guys, if you choose.

Optional leather.

So not standard leather.

Not standard.

Whole bunch of hullabaloo and pomp and circumstance.

Okay, so.

Sports.

So this reads, so no door count,

no talk about a bed or cargo capacity or towing

or this or that.

It did say ABS?

Rear.

Rear, rear circuit ABS.

Four-liter screams Ford Motor Company

as does the rest about like,

does your sheet even hunt, bro?

Like the sportsman undertones or overtones?

I mean, it literally says sportsman.

So, okay.

It reads like a Ford Explorer.

I know we've done Ford Explorer in some capacity.

I don't remember if we've done

Mercury Mountaineer.

I don't think we've done Mazda Navajo.

And this could be Ford Ranger,

because again, I don't know that this is an SUV

or not an SUV.

There's no.

It's a mystery.

There's no discussion about configuration at all,

although if there's a freaking kayak on the roof,

I'm thinking the roof is kind of long.

Because otherwise.

Percareously on a single cab Ranger.

Otherwise the optics get weird.

What else came with the four-liter?

And by the four-liter, I mean a four-liter V6.

Nothing from Toyota, nothing from Honda,

nothing from Azuzu.

I don't think GM made a four-liter V6.

It was two eight or 3,800 or 4.3.

Or three, four-tick.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I can't.

I mean, it could be a Disco one or a Disco two.

You're missing another popular four-liter at the time.

A very popular.

We have a very popular,

nothing from the land of Christlandia.

I can't think of any other uncircumcised Euro

to throw into the mix here.

What other four-liter boy?

There's certainly nothing from,

yeah, I can't think of anything Euro

because there's no Volkswagen.

We're not doing anything with BMW or Mercedes

and a four-liter V6.

This would be a weird, no, it's not Nissan.

I'm just gonna try and get the party started

and have you tell me I'm wrong.

I'm gonna say this is a 1996 Mercury-Mountaineer.

Six Mercury-Mountaineer.

Not Sportsman enough, my friend.

And go back half a decade.

Sure.

That'll help you out.

Yeah, that makes sense because there was no,

there was no dual airbags running that bullshit.

Not that bullshit.

No.

We died like real Sportsman.

We do.

And the rear, you're right

because of the rear channel.

Rear channel only ABS is like early, early shit ABS.

And yours, it says four-liter V6?

Yep, so don't even think of that Chrysler bullshit.

And there's no Jeep products up in this yacht.

And yeah, Chrysler was the 3.9

which is a 318 with less two cylinders.

They had the four-liter in the Wrangler

but it's an inline six.

Correct, that's why I wanted the clarification with the V6.

There is definitely a V6 mentioned three times.

Yes, and yeah, even something like the Disco-1

and Disco-2 I talked about earlier,

that's a V8, it's not a V6.

What can I do to help you out?

Do you need a little more of a shove here?

I'm trying to.

I mean, maybe I'm just four-liter V6.

Four-wheel drive, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Truck, the Zuzu didn't have one.

Suzuki didn't have one, Toyota didn't have one.

What if I told you it, here's a big hint.

Sure, only two-door.

Only two-door, I just, hmm, only, I mean,

there is not a four-door variant.

Sure, I cannot, at the time, maybe it's this

Alvarado Street Tree Service IPA.

It's hammer drunk, hammer drunk.

Maybe it's just taken the edge off enough

where I can't, I'm nubbing myself enough

where I can't sort out the missing four-liter V6.

Okay, so not Chrysler for, I mean,

I mean, I already said the Mazda Navajo,

which is two-door only.

I don't think the Mazda fucking Navajo

would have won Truck of the Year.

I'll say the year, because we're right there.

Sure.

It still did win 1991, Truck of the Year by Motor Trend.

That's an actual thing.

1991, Truck of the Year.

I cross-checked the ad.

That's how much I didn't trust this fucking advertisement.

I looked it up, certified.

I don't think Mitsubishi made a four-liter.

There's a three-eight that was way later.

These were all three-fives, or two-fives,

but what dumb ass manufacturer am I missing?

I'm the dumb ass manufacturer of bad ideas over here.

This is making for incredible, I don't,

you have two 45 left, you,

what?

Go on a spirit journey and follow your heart.

I do need to smoke some Hopium

to be able to hopefully come up with an idea here.

God, I'm gonna, I'm gonna,

If two more guesses, they're gonna fight a cop.

Okay.

This is-

It's gonna catch a domestic.

I'm gonna say that every time.

That's the new term, til it morphs into something

that's less evil.

That's how fucked up you are.

You're gonna catch a domestic.

God damn it.

I just like, peak evil over here.

Okay, let's go 1991 Moss and Navajo, final answer.

Had to get that out.

The Mazda Navajo features a four liter V6.

It is a fucking Mazda Navajo.

It won 1991 truck of the year, according to MotorTruck.

See you threw me for a loop

because you said I was missing an engine.

That's like you did me on the last one

where you're like, there were a couple.

Anyway, you doubted that this Harkerwin truck

of the year and it looks so good.

It's a great truck.

It really does though.

It is a fucking great truck.

Well, it is.

It's a two door Explorer.

Like there's, it's not, it's like headlights, grill.

Yep.

Anything else?

Two door only.

Hatching, so that's different.

Yep.

I think they're killer, man.

I think I would fucking rock the shit

out of a Mazda Navajo.

Yeah.

Absolutely.

That's a good little four liter by the way.

It's better than just saying

that you'd rock the shit out of a Navajo

because that feels like predatory and...

I would again.

Exactly, yeah, yeah.

Just like my grand, grand, grand, grand.

Yeah.

That railroad wasn't gonna make it to a pathway.

No, it's a...

You're reading Buffalo, I'm reading Buffalo.

Yeah, I'm in Navajo.

No, it's a cool truck.

Bro, tell me what it is.

No, they're super dope.

They're really cool.

My buddy had the analog to this.

He had an early Explorer two door

sport five speed manual,

which I always thought was a cool little truck, right?

Yeah.

But yeah, that's literally the analog to this.

I think it's cool

because it's like a Mazda Navajo.

No one knows what the fuck it is.

It's got that cool factor, right?

Even though it's a pretty common truck,

the four liter V6 is good.

They're cool.

They're cool trucks.

No, they're cool.

And it's...

God, there was one I used to see

around my neighborhood semi-frequently,

and it was a white one.

And then I stopped seeing it

and it took a little bit of a,

a little suck the little enjoyment out of my day

because I used to be able to see it

and be like, hey, it's a cool Mazda Navajo

and I haven't seen it in a while.

So hopefully it comes back.

They didn't make a metric shit ton of them

if I remember correctly.

So I think they are kind of hard to find.

Because was it like three years only?

Was it like 91, 92, 93?

Or was it 90, 91, 92?

It was something like that.

That's a good question.

I know they didn't, they had a pretty limited run.

I, and I apparently didn't sell T2 while.

So it's a game replaced by the tribute.

So we're good.

Which is the escape.

Yeah.

No, it's, it's not an escape.

This is just a tribute.

Our buddy of mine had one

and he used to call it his Mazda Roddy.

So I thought that was pretty, pretty cool.

Oh, there you go.

Yeah.

The Mazda Roddy.

It was decidedly more reliable than a Mazda Roddy.

Speaking of decidedly, uh-oh, Relyte, not Relyte.

I don't, whatever.

Segways, sometimes they're hard.

Have you, I've done, I've done almost nothing.

What did I do?

I killed the battery in my Suburban.

That's pretty fun.

For PCP, yeah.

Good.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Fade it forward to a future episode of PCP,

Project Car Progress.

Yeah, I'm creating, I'm creating.

It's creating content.

I'm creating future content is what I'm doing.

I've not had the timer energy to get anything done

on the Ford Focus, nor have I done anything

on the Sprint Turbo behind me.

I wanted to do the BCR Rally last weekend.

Because like last minute, I was like, oh shit,

there's going on and the only slots left were 99 or older.

And this is the closest 99 or older car

because I just need to get the new motor mount installed

and then figure out where this coolant leak

is coming from.

I haven't had an opportunity to pressure test it.

If you look in the background, if you're watching the video,

you can see there's like a box sitting

in the engine bay now right here.

That's the pressure tester.

Okay, that's ready to, ready to do some things.

I just haven't had the chance to do.

So my PCP is weak and woke and ineffective and feckless.

How about you?

Have you been doing strong, powerful masculine PCP?

No, I have been time challenged as well.

I did patch up the Volvo.

I think we talked about in the last one

how I fixed the heater core hoses.

Yes.

So I did that.

The tracker, dude, ugh.

So it started idling rough and I'm like,

what the fuck's going on?

Because it runs great.

So remember, this is a low mileage, mostly a tow vehicle.

Sure.

So those, unfortunately in case you're wondering,

those get towed from location to location,

then they're driven very short distances intermittently.

Rupro.

Worst condition for carbon buildup and EGRs.

So I pulled the EGR off, dude,

fucking it's packed like a Navajo piece pipe, dude.

You like how I take it back?

Yeah, there we go.

I take it back around.

But it was packed in there so tight,

I broke it all up.

The plunger's moving freely.

I can plug the vacuum, like the good test for an EGR

is you put your finger or thumb over the vacuum port.

See if it pulls.

You push the plunger up, put your thumb there

and see if it's to hold.

If it's, right.

Cause if it does, if it loses suction,

the plunger's dead and you need an EGR.

EGR works fine.

Unfortunately where it was plugged,

I mean all the way, Frank.

Just coped.

Packed like a fucking chimney

that was about to burn down next winter.

But if you go back into the engine,

the fucking pass, it doesn't have an external pipe.

You don't have some motors.

It's all through the intake.

It's all through the intake manifold.

So I'm gonna have to ream the shit out of it.

I don't wanna take it apart

cause it's a TBI car.

So there's even more shit you gotta take apart.

It's not like pulling off just it.

Not that pulling an intake manifold

is a fucking fun thing to do

when you have like 10 minutes to blow

cause it never takes 10 minutes.

It takes forever.

For me personally, it's usually

probably even less 10 minutes to blow, but carry on.

Oh wow.

Good for you.

Yeah.

Healthy young buck.

No, you could ream it out.

I've tried to get in there with like wire cleaner stuff

and it just, it's hard to get in there

cause it just snakes down the back

of the intake manifold passageway.

So I've read some online things

where you can take like clear tubing

and like shoot chemicals through

and keep jamming it until it's clear through.

I don't wanna pull the intake manifold, dude

cause I don't wanna take the TBI apart

and all that bullshit that that entails.

So that's my next thing.

The car's perfect under its own speed

but the idle just has that little shake, you know

cause the GR port is jammed up.

It's essentially a vacuum leak at idle, right?

But a pass smog though.

It has not since I've owned it.

It passed smog before.

So it just started acting up.

I think it was probably,

it was definitely on its way to building that.

It just must have completely closed it off.

It saw you coming.

It was like, uh-uh.

But that's the, we talk about all the time

the whole misconception of you want a low mileage car.

You don't, you don't guys,

especially low mileage cars that were driven

like a few miles at a time.

Mid miles is king.

It's fucking, it'll kill you.

But anyway, I'm gonna do everything I can

within my power to clean out that passageway

without pulling the intake manifold.

But if I have to, I have to, you know.

It is, it is what it is.

Hopefully the GR really is still good

cause it tested good because those are pricey

and hard to get.

Really interesting.

Yeah, they are dude.

They're like 300 bucks still.

Damn damn.

For a reman, yeah, no, it's not good.

So that's it, motherfucker.

That truck's almost done.

But yeah, more content to follow.

There we go.

Tune in.

All right.

I'm gonna shut the fuck up dude.

Yeah, send us, send us, send us home.

We're out.

Nope.

Thanks for joining us, APA Podcast,

another pointless automotive podcast.

Check us out on Instagram.

We'll update it every third quarter cycle.

I don't even know anymore.

Our cycles aren't even synced anymore.

So I can't, I don't even know.

I've stopped having cycles.

That's how long it's been.

I have.

Manopause has not kicked in for me personally.

You're trying to take that away from women too.

Yes.

Yeah, but it's not good to political again.

Come on.

So check us out there.

Check us out on YouTube.

What?

I was going with the transgender thing, Frank.

Yeah, no, I just, I don't know.

It's gonna go there.

God damn it.

It's not a big deal.

It's trans athletes kind of,

it's like a two-way street, right?

Like, cause I love to defeat women

at everything they do, but at the same time.

But I love making love to men.

It's really complex.

At the same time.

But no, dude, check us out YouTube.

We do put every episode on the tubes.

Check us out there.

Subscribe.

Our subscribership is fucking stagnant at best.

Check us out there.

Auto obscure garage on YouTube.

Check out the tracker

while I fucking try to ruin the EGR system completely.

Frank, what have you been up to?

Where can people follow you?

Oh God, you shouldn't.

But if you just,

if you choose to make poor choice.

Oh wow.

Poor choices in life.

You say trans athlete once in front of this guy.

And he just, he loses his composure.

Exactly.

I just, oh gosh.

It's just, I don't know.

Follow me or don't.

I don't know.

The photographer's garage,

that's where I try not to talk about trans athletes

is there in all of my,

so to me and whatever.

Like tune in next week

and maybe we'll fall apart even harder.

And also, and this is gonna be an off air conversation,

not the fact that we shouldn't be talking

about trans athletes.

That's not what we're gonna be talking about.

We will be talking about,

we're right on the cusp.

We're really close to having

some sort of a Patreon thing.

Oh yeah.

Right there.

I've like set it up.

I've got stuff.

I just decided that like,

we should probably not have like a pay to play thing

with if somebody like decides to click the thing

and like pay us that like,

there's nothing behind it.

Like we should probably record some of our

after dark episodes

where we make even worse decisions

and talk about even more terrible things

and what we're doing.

Right, goddamn right.

Right now.

Right here.

Right now.

It's happening.

Yeah.

So stay tuned for that.

And then like, I don't know.

Tell your friends what to avoid

when listening to podcasts,

which is this one.

So thank you.

Is that why the Pontiac transport

is not popular nowadays?

Oh, but it's, you know, no,

it is popular nowadays.

It was, it failed in period, right?

But now, like,

now that like society and time has moved on,

it's more accepted and people want like,

if you should, dude, if you showed up,

if you showed up.

Does the transport have a period?

If you, if you show up, however,

if you show up to a college sporting event

in a perfect Pontiac transport.

All of these athletes of various identities

come out of your Pontiac transports.

You are like the ultimate college sports,

soccer, bomb or dad or non-binary champion.

So, yeah, beautiful.

Support your local Pontiac transports rights,

our human rights.

And thanks for tuning in.

Yeah.

All right, guys, we love you.

Take care.

We'll catch you next time.

Later, friends.

Peace.

Deuces.

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