Episode 200! Behind-the-scenes, favorite episodes, future plans, and more

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Welcome everyone.

By the time you listen to this, it will be 2026.

Happy New Year everyone and hopefully you had a wonderful holiday.

This episode is also number 200.

So why do we have a celebration going on here?

Because we brought two local folks that I would say are avid listeners and you've seen

them on the podcast before.

We have Rich Bauer, 10 year PCA member and Paul Gentilly.

A new badge came in the mail for you displaying your 40 years in PCA.

I joined when I was five.

Exactly.

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So how was everyone's holiday?

It was good.

All with the family.

All with the family?

Two days.

Everybody was here.

No travel?

Everyone stayed local?

Well, I was going to say, what technically...

I had to work.

Let's tell.

Does that count?

Where's my little violin?

You know, I mean, some of you are...

Nobody feels bad for Rich.

So how does this ring the bell?

I worked the whole time.

You did.

So what's your official title at Hopkins?

I'm just a button pusher.

A button pusher.

Basically, instead of a copier, he hits like a scan machine that scans you.

Oh, what, the body is a piece of paper?

You scam people.

And he looks at it like the Kodermac person you used to, says it looks good or not look

good.

Exactly.

But in between there, he's got all these website visits, like bring a trailer, PCA.

Are you going to call him out at what he does at work?

Sounds like it.

It sounds like it.

Right.

Probably your coworkers aren't listening.

That's how we all know Rich is at work.

We started getting all these links to a car that we should look at.

Wonderful cars.

That's how he gets all these ideas.

As you're working, pressing buttons, honestly, everyone dreams about their next car at work.

Yeah?

Absolutely.

How about you, May?

How was your holiday?

It was good.

No drama.

Stay at home.

Got some more toys to add to the collection.

I think the only one that left town was Damon.

Damon, you headed north.

Yeah, I headed north to Wisconsin around the Oregon, Wisconsin, which is near Madison.

Oregon.

Yeah.

So it's funny.

I say Oregon when it's Wisconsin, then Oregon when it's the state.

That's how I differentiate it.

Is that how the locals are?

That's how I think my family says it, but they also say, instead of bag, they say bag.

Bag.

You know, they have a bag.

You know, it's a Wisconsin accent.

I remember when I drove across the country, I think it was maybe Wyoming, the first time

someone asked me if I wanted a sack with that.

A sack?

Yeah, I stopped in the convenience store at the gas station and I'm like a what?

She said a sack.

And I looked at her and she pulled it out and she said, a sack.

And I'm like, oh, a bag.

And it's also soda and pop, you know, that was out there.

Yeah.

Any cool Porsche related gifts?

Not a one.

Really?

Well, I'm proud to say that my family understood the assignment because I got lots of Porsche

related stuff, including a houndstooth, papita slash jacket.

And I got the antenna on my 356 doesn't have the little red tip and I thought that was pretty

cool.

So they got me one of those.

And I got a, at the bottom of the base of my shifter, the rubber boot, I guess, was,

I guess that's original because it's all cracked.

So they got me one of those.

Almost bought a car, but.

You almost bought a car?

Decided to not do it.

Really?

Do tell.

2011 Boxter Spider.

Wow.

I haven't been hunting for a spider for a while.

That's like the perfect book into your, uh, yeah.

Wow.

But his friend's got one and I'm kind of waiting for that one.

Yeah, but that's not a 2011 though.

What is it?

That's a 2022.

Oh, I thought it was a, well, should have bought it.

No.

I thought you were talking about Jim.

I thought you were saying Jim selling a spider?

No.

He said he wanted if he could find a blue one.

And there was a blue one at Ryan Tree.

So what made you not pull the trigger?

Um, I don't know.

Really?

Look at you all reserved.

On occasion.

Was it, well, I mean, yeah, you've been searching for a while.

Was there something about the car that you didn't like or the price?

Well, not, not really the price.

I just, I just wasn't ready to commit yet.

Really?

Ah, interesting.

Any other life changes that may have affected your decision of whether or not you would

add a car to this table?

Not a one.

Okay.

I'll keep moving.

And me and he, how about you?

Let's go back to Paul.

How about you?

Any, uh, what Porsche?

Really?

You really had a, you really have to go there.

Our listeners will understand.

Yeah, they will.

Roxanne got me some hot wheels and matchbox, including the one matchbox that, uh, the ones

that have like, remember I gave you a truthy six one, the black one.

Yeah.

This is a, looks like a sky blue, uh, 9-Eleven, early 9-Eleven.

Ooh.

Yeah.

Very nice.

In fact, I told her the day before I, I was looking on Facebook feeds that I belong

to for hot wheels and matchbox horses.

And I said, check this out cause he's always, whenever she goes to stores, he always looks

in the toy aisle and, uh, she already gotten it for me.

Oh, nice.

Got me the Lego, uh, GT3R, the smaller one.

I never build them.

They, I'm waiting for my grandchildren to get old enough to where I can pay them to build

them cause I have zero patience to put those things together.

So do you have that bit of anxiety?

Like my niece and nephew came up to visit, which is wonderful.

We, we love that they come, but of course they want to go downstairs into the basement

and his, uh, my, my nephew's youngest, he, um, he loves cars and, uh, wants to climb

on everything and then, you know, I got to give the kids something to go home with.

So then I started looking for like models and stuff like that.

But are you, do you get worried when the kids kind of run, ramp it and might grab or do

you have everything locked away?

I have everything in a garage behind cases so they can come in.

They look and then when they want to take something home, I have a box of brand new

hot wheels and matchbox and other stuff and I pull that out and say, pick anything you

want from here.

Yeah.

And that satisfies them.

It's probably the stuff he buys from Gootar.

Yeah, exactly.

Bob takes all his, he said, I used to tease Bob that it would take all his, uh, the gifts

that he gave his kids around April, they would disappear because that was a swap meet.

They would always probably say, dad, he wants Santa to take all our gifts in April.

That's so mean.

Poor Bob's not here to defend him.

I know, I know.

Let's keep it up.

He would say, that's not true.

Well, I haven't seen one of, um, one of my, my Facebook, uh, acquaintances, uh, a lot

of hot wheels, specialty hot wheels.

In fact, I think it's a club, maybe you might know about this, but they're like not, not

that the regular blister pack that you find at Walmart or Target, but now there seems

to be like an upgraded, almost one 43rds, but it's a hot wheel size, but very special

additions.

And how do you get those?

So hot wheels has gone all in and taken advantage of the fact that there's a big hot wheels

craze where everybody and his brother right now is thinking they can make money on hot

wheels.

And so they're, they're paying off Walmart employees to go and they give them the boxes

with the, uh, the key, uh, cards, if you will, and not just Porsche, but all the, the

whole line.

I just collect Porsche on that, all the hot wheels.

And honestly, I stick to whatever Walmart, Target has.

I see them on Facebook all the ones I'm thinking, I guess these disappear quick when they arrive.

So eventually I figured a filter down because I don't think hot wheels is limiting too much.

They just make them in the details as they come along.

Oh yeah.

Cause they're different price point cars, like the 99 cent cars or the dollar, whatever

cars versus these look like they're $10 cars and there's a lot more details to it in the

boxes.

They have a 143rd scale, a 917 and I think a GT3 RS, they're like $28 now in a blister

pack.

Yeah.

It's, uh, it's not something else for you to hoard.

No, no, you know what?

I've, I'm a one 18th scale person.

I don't buy a multi mark.

I know that's the problem.

Yeah, but don't have a bunch of 143rds over there.

But those I didn't buy, those that were gifts or I went to an event and got one, I, I don't

buy 143rds.

I, and now I'm up to like 500, 118th scale cars.

So I only get one that truly, truly, truly a special or I have some kind of story or

connection to because I just, I've run out of space.

Yeah.

How about, how about you Rich, any, any cool Porsche stuff or you, since you were working

did you just buy yourself?

Matchbox, I got some matchbox cards.

Yeah.

The wife also got me a Porsche experience, a GT3 driving experience.

Wow.

Yeah.

But New Jersey Motorsports Park.

Oh, that's cool.

I'm going to do a couple.

We should all go and make fun of you while you're on the track.

Yeah.

You make a, yeah.

So Juan's wife got him and Rich also.

So we'll be going up.

Yeah.

So, yeah.

Great.

So there maybe Manny will stop making fun of your driving after you learn new skills

at New Jersey Motorsports Park.

Listen, I have all the skills.

I just choose not to display that.

Oh, good.

Smart man.

That's the most making fun of his driving is the fact that he has all these horsepower,

high horsepower, modified cars with the getting more horsepower.

And here I am in my little 914, 95 horsepower, looking in my mirror going, where's Rich?

He was right behind me in that.

It's good that you stay the speed limit and represent the club very well.

That's nothing wrong with that.

Aren't you glad you came?

Listen, I drove a motorcycle forever and I don't, I don't want any problems.

Yeah.

You can't predict what's going to come around the corner.

Exactly.

Can't predict.

Now get me on track.

It's a different story.

Oh, wow.

I said what I said.

Oh.

I said what I said.

Man, you might want to join in on this little experience at New Jersey Motorsports Park.

Let's just sign up for an event at some point.

Throwdown for 2026.

Because the bad thing about the Porsche one is they do have people to rain you in.

So you're not the not like your car.

Is it lead follow?

I think it's lead follow, right?

Lead follow, yeah.

And it's a fairly narrow track.

The color even the track is, I think a stretch.

It's, have you driven that?

In New Jersey?

No.

The one in, you're talking about the one in Atlanta, right?

I've done the one in Atlanta.

Yeah.

We're doing the one in New Jersey.

So that's not the Porsche experience?

No.

No, it's not the Porsche experience.

Is this one of those?

Yeah.

Drives.

Yeah.

Programs.

No, but you're right.

They're the one in Atlanta.

I think they purposely keep it narrow to keep people because it is intimidating to see a

wall that's like three or four feet.

But we're driven that yourself.

Have you driven it Damon?

No, I haven't.

I think a NJMP, the only time I've been there was for the, well, I'm talking about the experience

center.

In Atlanta.

Oh, no, no, no.

Any experience center.

I've only gotten rides.

That's me too.

I've never driven.

Actually, when I saw Atlanta, I got a ride.

My first thought was there's no way I could go to nine-tenths on this track.

The guardrail is right to the edge of the track and they say it's not a race track.

It's like more like a circuit training.

Training circuit.

It's still fun though.

Hats off to the guys who instruct there because they, they were very talented.

How quick they pushed it and I'm thinking, whoa.

Is it lead follow?

Yeah.

Pretty much.

It's not.

So in Atlanta, you have, the one I drove, I had an instructor with me.

In the car?

Yeah.

There's an instructor in the car.

Wow.

Really?

Because at the barber, they told us we were crazy to get in the car with the student.

Yeah.

Again, it's not a race track.

So in Atlanta, the speeds are, you know, they keep people.

Yeah, but New Jersey's, New Jersey would be fun.

Not a race there before.

So Manny had a great idea since it's our 200th episode.

So first of all, Manny, I think we've talked about this before, how many podcasts actually

get to 200?

Like it's pretty rare though.

It's made it this far, right?

Under 5%.

I was looking it up.

Under 5%.

They say most never go past seven episodes.

Yeah.

Which I started looking back at some portion-related podcasts that were around when we first started

it, aren't.

And that's pretty spot on.

Yeah.

It's, it's not, I don't think it's easy maybe to start up to get the equipment and everything,

but to find topics, especially for us, our podcast, which is Strictly Porsche.

That's all we talk about.

Yeah.

You know, we don't have, no one's dropping off the latest Toyota or Ferrari to us at Test

Drive.

So we can spend an episode talking about it here.

It's just, I will say, I tried to drop some Toyota, you know, info and stuff in episodes

past, but I don't think our viewers cared for it all that much.

So you mean the camera stuff?

Yeah.

You're probably right.

We haven't talked about that thing in a while.

You know, before we, we move on, and I think Manny has a great idea with this 200th episode

in the sense where we might reset a little bit because some, some listeners may have

joined in the 100s or the 150 or whatever.

So I got to give our thanks to Manny for having the vision of doing this.

He's the one with the commute, longest commute, one of the longest commutes.

And he listens to podcasts and, and presenting the idea to do this.

Robert, our past IT person that got a lot of the, the equipment that we needed.

And of course, Damon, not only being on the show, but also has picked, has picked up the

reins to run the equipment.

And above all is the executive council of PCA, allowing us to do this, being able to

do this, you know, as a club is pretty cool.

I mean, it's not easy to do.

And I have like even more respect for people that do the news every day to like, I mean,

I guess they have a team of people writing stuff.

Yeah, yeah, and everything.

But yeah, it's, we're pretty, pretty fortunate.

And I hope all of you that are listening appreciate it.

And, you know, we're trying to keep the content coming, trying to figure out what's

important and what's interesting for you to listen to, drop knowledge of, you know,

what's in the news, fun stuff that we do on the weekends or events that we go to and

bring in guests that are interesting, that are, you know, folks that might be just like

you and I, or it might be someone like a Bruce Meyer that has a crazy collection and

or history in the automotive world.

So again, thank you all for, for being a part of all and to get to 200.

But to reset it, some of you that are listening might not know maybe how we got here and maybe

the cars that we drive.

So, man, I'll let you kick it off.

Well, I took 95 South.

I joined in 1989, PCA.

I bought my first Porsche in 1985 and it was 21 when I joined PCA.

My girlfriend at the time was 18 and now my wife.

So we both joined at the same time.

And I'm a little bit behind years wise and Paul here when he joined three years earlier,

kind of like when Rich said why he didn't join PCA.

I joined it.

I didn't join because all I saw was guys driving turbos, 911 turbos.

And I thought, unfortunately, my 924 is not going to fit well with these guys because

they're all driving these, these latest and greatest 911 turbos.

So I held off for three years.

So finally we went to an event, introduced myself and asked if I can join the club.

And this was around nine o'clock in the morning and they yelled over to the membership chair,

John Harvey, who came over with a past blue ribbon in one hand and a membership app in

the other, handed them both to me and said, here, welcome to the club.

And I thought, well, they can't be that stopby if they're drinking past blue ribbon at nine

in the morning.

And then from there on out, I was a very welcoming region and I started volunteering.

So I currently drive.

Oh, I gave Damon a picture of my race car because although it's sold, it's still being

raced. A friend of mine bought it.

It doesn't have the polka dots on anymore, but so has the blue bumpers, but it's been

painted club now, not me out of blue, which is what I had it when I raced it.

But when I had that car, I bought a parts car, fully running and everything.

But the 964 was so cheap back in 2008.

I couldn't resist spending 17,000 on a 964 in a really good condition.

And so that car still exists.

That's one of my cars.

The race car is gone.

What year did you buy that again?

2008, when the economy collapsed.

The economy was.

Yeah. I remember when you went to go by, you bought it like in Montgomery County.

Like Gatorsburg. Yeah.

Yeah. And I remember, yeah.

And I was like, man, you're paying how much for that thing?

It's got over a hundred thousand miles.

One hundred and seven thousand miles.

The twenty thousand dollar 964.

I wish I had jumped on that.

And I could have and I didn't.

But, you know, back then, back then car.

Not the same car.

But they were all over the place.

I bought a I bought a 1976 BMW 2002, which no one enjoyed as much as I thought.

No one knew they were going to go up.

It was just I had because people said, oh, you should have put more of them.

I said, I would have bought Apple stock.

If I knew how much things were going to go up, sure.

But no, back then you thought they're I told Roxanne, my wife, I said,

I don't think it'll ever drop in price.

But if I ever need an engine and transmission,

while I have one ready to go, take it out of the car.

So this ends up being the car that I keep.

And of course, the value went up quite a bit.

As I was seventy three nine fourteen two liter that I talk about a lot.

We have the two thousand and five boxer s that my wife won it.

And tip chronic.

That's how you know it's hers.

I found that one for you guys.

Yeah. And we looked at it for a while.

We found it off of Craigslist.

Going shopping, used car shopping with my wife is.

See what's in the background of that picture right there.

What is I can't see from the A bar?

That's my fiat. Is that yours?

Yeah. Oh, is that oil?

I see.

It was parked there for three days.

Listen, I love that car.

It's a great car.

And then we just got a twenty one Macan that my wife drives daily.

So that's the extent of our fleet.

And Mr. Forte year member, how did you get your start in PCA?

Nineteen eighty five.

But an eighty five and a half, nine forty four took delivery

and was able to determine that the car had been repainted.

Oh, after you took delivery.

After you took delivery.

And Tischer Porsche at the time, I called them and they took it back.

Oh, they did.

They took it back.

Wow.

They asked if they'd have less than a hundred miles on it, which.

So was it painted like at the port or something?

Somewhere.

But it was a new car.

Brand new car.

But it was already painted.

Wow.

Brand new car.

And then I ordered another one and changed the spec a little bit.

And that's when I that's when I joined in eighty six.

And how did you hear about PCA?

The dealer or?

I think I always knew about it and joined immediately.

Because you were probably a BMW club member at the time.

Yeah, that was eighty.

So you knew about clubs.

Eighty two.

I joined that.

So yeah, so that was the first one.

And then nine forty four prices started to decline, got out and pursued a nine

eleven and the original owner for a year agreed on a price in two days before

Christmas.

He brought it to the house.

You're eighty three.

Yeah, I still have it.

That was in ninety one.

Yeah, that car is super clean.

Yeah, that's.

Yes, it is.

Check out a one mile review road test for me.

Yeah, two, three years ago on it on our YouTube channel.

We did that.

And we did his Macan.

Macan.

You have your Macan.

I bought a Macan in twenty two CPO.

Great looking car.

Yeah.

That's what red is that?

Carmine.

Carmine red.

Carmine.

Yeah, Carmine red.

Much different than guards red when you put them next to each other.

And then you're almost two years ago found a Cayman R.

Super another super.

You're that's that's the thing is I will always buy a car if you ever have one

for sale for me.

Your cars are you you take the time to look for the right one.

And they are all exceptionally clean and you take such good care of them.

Not only that, but that's got to be one of the only ones spec like that.

Well, it's got carbon ceramic brakes, which is nice for sport exhaust.

It doesn't have the carbon buckets.

And quite honestly, I'm OK with that.

Yeah.

Because they came standard with carbon buckets.

Correct.

So that he spec it out without or so that he.

Well, I didn't get it from the original owner.

What's the this gentleman who was a salesman at Porsche of Annapolis for a long time?

Mike. Mike.

Mike.

Now, yeah, he sold the car.

Oh, Mike.

When he saw it, he knew it.

The guy I bought it from ordered a set of the seeds from Porsche.

And then he he paid for them and then he got a call that they're no longer

available, otherwise, it would have had both, which would have been nice to have.

But the car was in spec with them.

Wow.

And and you bought that you found that car off the mark, right?

Yeah, off the mark.

Yeah. Yep.

And in Williamsburg, Virginia.

Nice. Now, Rich, where your first car was a nine, nine, six turbo.

First Porsche was a nine, nine, six turbo, I still own it.

That's another podcast that we'll talk about, I guess.

I'm unable to get rid of anything.

But yeah, nine, six turbo.

We want to do a podcast of people that can sell cars and not look twice back twice.

And other ones who refuse to sell anything.

Yeah.

I think we'll be on the same team.

Yeah, I think we're going to be on the same team.

I know Rob says it could be the obviously the other one who can sell and not think

about it again.

I don't think I'm going to sell what I have.

Maybe the McCotton at some point, but the other two cars not going anywhere.

So what made you get a nine, nine, six turbo?

Well, it's a funny story.

Oh, you're a turbo guy.

I'm a turbo guy.

You're like a JDM dude.

Yeah, I'm an ex JDM, JDM guy.

So turbo everything.

But I've told the story before, back when I was looking for a nine, 11 turbo,

I wanted a nine, 64, 91 or 92 turbo turbo.

Ironically, when I started looking, they were the same price.

The nine, nine, six turbo and a nine, 64 turbo were the same price.

This is starting to sound like the guy who sold all those shares of Apple.

Yeah, a hundred dollars.

That would have been worth like five billion now.

So yeah, so I had a choice to make.

I said, well, you know, it doesn't make any sense for me to buy this car.

It's significantly older with far less horsepower.

We're definitely in the same club.

I was in that same boat, but mine was not turbo.

Mine was nine, nine, three clapped out or a under warranty nine, nine, six.

So from an investment standpoint, I mean, I chose poorly.

To say it lightly and politely.

Yes, they were the same price.

Very, very politely.

Yes, but I lose air.

But the nine, nine, six turbo has been absolutely wonderful.

And I think it's a car that brings you joy.

It does everything well.

Yeah, you know, it's it's an amazing car.

But yet the first thing you talked about was how you missed the opportunity

to buy the nine, 11 turbo.

Yes, it is true.

Yes, yes.

But the thing is, your car is not even the unloved one.

You, you, you mentioned that the nine, nine, six turbo was unloved.

I don't think the nine, nine, six as an umbrella is unloved.

Nine, nine, six.

Yeah, but not the turbo, not the turbo.

The turbo is always out of respect just because it's a turbo that had to

mess your engine.

There's no remembering things differently.

I remember when I purchased it, sir.

I am a nine, nine, six owner since 2005.

We still make fun of you.

They still make fun of me and I still have to like my hand to the side.

But that's changed.

It's definitely changed now.

Did you see a nine, nine, six C two went for like 59 grand recently on

bring a trailer, $59,000 for a C two, nine, nine, six.

Are you crazy?

The one Rob Abbott picked up.

Yeah.

That was nice.

Have you seen that one?

No, factory arrow kit, factory arrow exclusive option.

We'll call it dark.

It's a arena red, isn't it?

Is it arena red?

I don't know.

It might not be arena.

It might be 99 red.

Garnet.

Yeah, or a 1999 or 99,000.

It's no 1999, but he got it really, really, uh, we, even he was surprised

that it went, I think it only had 25,000 miles on it too.

Wow.

Yeah.

Really low miles and all the records.

Yeah.

I mean, like I said, there was, I was surprised to see a $59,000 price on it,

but also it's like, it's, I still think it's a deal.

It's a great car, especially an early model.

So well, my nine, nine, six, when I bought it, it was at the peak of nine,

nine, six depreciation.

So I only paid $40,000 for it.

Now mind you, I've probably almost doubled my money by now, but it's still

not nine, six, four turbo money.

45,000 Bob picked it up.

Oh, that's a good 22,000 mile.

Not a caral kit 996 C four, C four.

Bring a trailer, bring a trailer.

And is that orient?

What color is that?

I think it's arena red, rich arena red doesn't say, but it looks like arena red.

No, Damon, you, you grew up in PCA.

So let me share that story.

Wow.

Yeah, definitely.

Um, grew up, man.

Well, I mean, he's aged in PCA.

Okay, maybe not as grown up.

Yeah, exactly.

So, um, I've always been around it because of my, my aunt and uncle, um,

from San Diego region.

So, uh, Martha McGowan and Keith for lack, they've both been, uh,

presidents of San Diego region, Keith several times.

Um, my uncle, he has tons of books on Porsche, like this whole bookshelf.

Um, and so I've always been around it and he had a, I forget what

color, but a red Carrera 3.2 when I first met him, gosh, you know, in my, um,

when my aunt and uncle first started dating and then he bought a fly yellow

Ferrari light yellow RS America in 1999.

And, you know, he kind of went crazy with that.

He ran the RS America registry for many, many years.

And yeah, I grew up doing PCA stuff and wanting to autocross, um, which is,

you know, when you're a teen, you could care less about the socials.

At least I could.

I just wanted to drive on track and then drive autocross.

So, uh, my aunt had a 944 S two in guards red and she let me autocross

it when I was 18.

So had like five or six of those, and, um, autocrosses and, um, that

really is what kicked me off.

So I owned a 944 S two for a while and I'm going to bring up some pictures here.

If I can, uh, remember how to do this, there we go.

Ah, but, uh, that's, I graduated from the 944 S two.

Yeah, exactly.

I wish I had a 911 SC in some of those, but yeah, I, um, sold the 944 S two.

Actually, when I moved out to Maryland from San Diego, when I was hired, uh,

way back in December, 2013 moved out here in January, 12 year anniversary.

Yeah, exactly.

On time flies.

Yeah.

So, so I got rid of the Porsche, um, just, it wasn't the car to drive

across the country.

I took a BMW wagon for that, but then in 2019, I bought this Cayman and as

much as I love the S two, I'm so happy that things worked out the way they did.

Uh, you bought, you bought this car from a local member in Minneapolis.

Yeah.

It was also like my C two.

It was perfect timing money wise because it was like a steel.

Yeah.

And I don't mind saying it was, um, it was, uh, so Maryland one owner car, dealer

service, uh, hair under 50,000 miles for a 14 seven.

And that's about as low as I've ever seen a nice 97.1 Cayman.

Um, some pop up, you know, below 20, but it's really rare to see something like that.

So, so I just lucked out and bought it.

Um, and, uh, yeah, just last year bought a.

Cayenne, which is parked in the Walmart parking lot near my house.

I don't, I haven't taken a lot of photos of this.

Uh, I was searching through my phone, but, but yeah, I bought the sassas old.

Yep.

Uh, Rob sassas old Cayenne.

I bought it for super cheap, um, hand me down.

Yep.

A hand me down.

So it was 3,500 bucks.

I thought it was a steel, but it's, that's actually probably more like market for that

car.

And I did some math and I spent probably a thousand or 1,500 more than I realized

last year on it's a great color.

Yeah.

Loppest blue, many, uh, Cayenne has that color.

Yeah.

Loppest blue V six.

Um, I'm loving it and it's the, the work, uh, workhorse.

So I just transporting stuff, um, you know, car parts and whatnot.

So, so yeah, and I still love autocross.

That's the, the main reason, the main event I do with, uh, my local region is,

is still autocross.

Yeah.

I'm jealous of you guys that have porches that have colors.

I get a curse.

I'm not allowed to have a curse.

He curse.

You pick these cars.

First of all, I don't pick these cars.

These cars pick me.

Okay.

All right.

So I'll try to speed up here with, uh, my entrance into the Porsche world.

I've always been a, I was a kid with a Porsche hot wheel, uh, in my hand and went

to bed and woke up, always had a special box for my European hot wheels.

And then the other hot wheels I could, I could, uh, beat up and stuff.

But, you know, my, my, my goal as a kid was to have a Porsche by time.

I was 30.

That was a goal.

And luckily, uh, at 28, I bought my very first car, which I still have.

And that is my 87 turbo look nine 11.

And, uh, it's, uh, you know, it's, it's been a pleasure.

I, I too wanted a turbo, but I didn't have turbo money or I didn't have a turbo

opportunity and a friend of mine, David Madaris out of Rhode Island.

He actually found the car for me.

And, uh, he's like, no, you're going to, you're going to really appreciate it.

It's the turbo body, turbo brakes, turbo suspension, but normally aspirated motor.

And the reality of it is when he sent me, he, back in the day, he sent me pictures

through the mail.

I opened the mail.

I show Luanne, honey, what about this car?

And she says, ooh, a convertible.

And I took that as a green light.

So that's, that's literally why we just made it happen.

You don't ask any of them.

And, but I'm, you know, it had, when I bought it, it had 28,000 miles.

And I paid 27 five for it.

Um, so that was the first one.

And I was over the moon.

And unlike you who waited a while, I actually joined before I bought that car.

I joined, uh, we have test drive, the, the program today that for people that are

looking for, for a Porsche, but, uh, before it was called the quest program.

And I actually joined quest because David said, you know, dumbest name in the world.

Yeah, I don't, I don't remember the quest program, your quest for a Porsche.

No, no, I get it.

I just, I never knew they had that.

So that sounds like a Dungeons & Dragons.

Yeah.

So to get, to get, but it was caught up for the longest time, apparently, um, to

get Panorama and to get, you know, insight on what to buy.

So anyways, that was my first car.

I still have it.

I love it.

And now it's got, uh, I bought what you like I said, 28, 29,000 miles.

And, uh, now it's just a tick over 50.

It's been fantastic.

Um, and then you've only put 21,000 miles on that car since you've owned it.

Yeah.

And I'll, and yeah, don't ask me.

Yeah.

And most of it is like weekends.

And when I first got it, it would be autocrosses, you know, summit point,

mid Ohio, but then after, then when I started with PCA 20 years ago, um, I

sold our E 46 wagon and bought a nine 11 daily driver.

And that's my nine, nine, six.

And that's how I know I've been people have been hating on my car since

19, that's since 2005.

That's how I really know.

Um, but it's that car has been fantastic.

As far as I put 30,000 miles on it the first year that I owned it.

And now it's, uh, almost going to crossover.

So I bought with 50, put 30,000 miles the first year on it.

And now it's about to cross over a hundred.

So yeah, and just it's been, it's been a fun car.

And then after getting a ride, my dad's always been a huge nine 14

fan getting a ride in Manny's car.

I thought, ooh, maybe I'll get like an air cooled because I can't afford it.

Three 56.

So this is a photo of my car when it was together.

When I brought it home from Oklahoma into 72, 9, 14, I never saw this car.

Yeah.

Neither I've seen part of my corner.

No, I had taken it apart by the time I had the opportunity to look at

signal orange, 72, 9, 14 that I bought in Oklahoma.

Tom Charles worth our past, uh, uh, technical chair looked it over for me.

And mechanically it was good paint wise.

It was three different shades of signal orange.

So that's why I took it apart.

And unfortunately it's still a part, uh, but I paid $3,000.

How many years later?

$3,000 that, so I took it apart and await.

So did you ever get it painted or not?

Just still, it's still, it's still, it's still, it's still now.

No, I took all the paint off of it.

The latest in the end of Jones movie coming out.

He goes, find it.

He's searching for this.

It will come together.

It will come together at some point.

And thanks to the nine 14 mob who always checks in with me probably quarterly.

Let us know when you want to get together to put that thing back together.

Um, so anyways, that's, that's there.

Anybody want to predict when we might see that, you know, I hope that I don't have

to do like a 20 year anniversary of it being taken apart.

I would like to come it up.

That's going on.

I know I'd very quickly.

So I would like to see it together before then.

Um, the next car is a car that actually grow hair.

The next car, me too.

The next car is a car that I actually encouraged Damon to buy when it was about

$15,000 because it's a, uh, it's a 99 Zenith blue Boxster with a Jake

rabie 2.9, uh, specced motor.

It was out at, uh, some a point PCA member.

It was his DE car phenomenal motor in it.

And the idea was to buy it and get the motor for my dad's Boxster and do a swap

and then just sell, sell the, the, the rest of the parts.

But, um, when I came home with it, I forgot that my wife really likes blue.

And all of our other Porsches were not her cup of tea in the sense where it was

like too stressful to drive because the nine and six was lowered.

The 87 has fixed seats and blah, blah, blah.

So this one is one that I'm not able to, I'm not supposed to modify.

Uh, and I keep it stock and so that's my wife's car.

Um, but that's not true.

No, I've kept it pretty stock.

It's got to have some sort of radio in it.

Um, no, it's got, it's got an upgraded radio, but no amps, no subs.

It's got it.

It's got a nine, nine, seven, seven.

You seem to remember when we took the Treffen gun, oh boy, yes.

Okay.

You're going to, um, we had our Boxster and then Lou Ann, whose wife asked him,

how come Roxanne's Boxster, the top goes up automatically with a button

and we have to do ours manually.

So she thought the boxes were manual tops until she saw ours in action.

She didn't ask me.

She just assumed that the reason why.

So, so when I recommended that car to Damon, that car was like 15 grand.

And then I saw it go down to 12 and I saw it go down to like nine.

And then one night, the guy actually broke the top after having it fixed

cause he tried to put it down in the middle of winter, a cable snapped or

something like that and a, and a bound one of the motors and the sheet metal

where the motors mount is actually like bent in place.

Anyways, so he was so frustrated with that.

That night he said, first $5,000 takes a car.

So that's a, honestly, the first time I ever made an offer on a car

without telling my wife.

And when I woke up, she had already left for work and he knew who I was.

He was like, great, I'll see you whenever come pick it up.

I'm like, uh-oh.

Um, so yeah, uh, that's, it was a cheap car.

And, uh, uh, similar to you in the sense where I love the rationalization for

yeah, rationalization of his, of his addiction.

Yeah.

So, you know, very, very happy.

The car turned out great.

The car drives phenomenal.

The motor is so probably the smoothest of all my cars, not just the

Porsche is about all my cars.

That rabie to nine is just, oh man, it's just like, it's like butter.

But you had some things to do.

You need tires, some sort of noise you were chasing for a while.

Um, yeah.

Well, so, so it had, um, uh, Toyo eight, eight, eights on it.

And I thought it was like a wheel bearing that was kind of noisy.

It was just worn eight, eight, eights.

And in fact, Toyo tells you that like as they get to the end of life, they

get super nosy.

And the other thing is the guy was running, um, pageant oranges.

So my wife was like, why does my car make so much noise when I break?

So I swapped out and put acupuncture or something like that.

They're quiet, but as far as a street car, it's fantastic.

And she's still, she still loves it, but I have to keep it stock.

And I think that's, oh, and then, um, the, the, oh, six client titanium, which

is my, uh, my daily driver that was owned by a past president of the Potomac region

to Tuffy von Briesen.

And this was one of those where like, we saw that car back in oh seven and thought

would be like a perfect family car.

And then when I saw that he owned one at the track, he was trailering his GT three

with that.

I was like, Tuffy, let me know when you want to sell that.

And he was like, well, I know exactly when I'm going to quote, quote, sell it

because it's a lease.

And so I bought that car off of Tuffy von Briesen's lease.

But that's supposed to be Gregory's car.

Oh, cause Gregory wanted to, but you know, you snooze, you lose.

So, but he, but he ended up, he ended up getting, I'll make sure that Gregory

he ended up getting what he really wanted, which is the GTS.

So it all worked out.

You need to talk to him.

He did like that car very much.

So, and then finally, I think many of you that listened to the podcast know of my

fiftieth year birthday present was the 59, 356.

And that's good fun.

Email from the registry, letting you know that they're about to kick you out.

Why?

I, because they saw the Facebook pictures of what you did to that car.

Oh, I know.

So I'm pushing the envelope.

I'm pushing the envelope of what I do to my car.

The, it's, it's, there's, there's not a whole, I mean, there is a lot that you

can do two or three, 56, obviously, but there's also big money and there's a

lot that you shouldn't do.

And have you done some of those?

So, so I, I'm trying to be respectful, but I'm also trying to like make it

personalized.

We talked them out of a subwoofer.

So I didn't put us, and the only reason why I didn't do that is because it's

a six volt car and I don't want to, not yet.

I don't want to change to a 12 volt.

And so I haven't done, but I did do a little underneath, underneath the,

the dashboard, um, Bluetooth stereo, which actually sounds better than what

the car ever had.

So it's already been upgraded in that sense, but I have, um, I like colors.

As you said, I like colors.

It's cool to have colors in my, the car's black.

I love black, but it's just black and it's got tan interior, which I do like that.

But I have, I found this suitcase at a, um, what is it called?

A state sale and it has this beautiful green plaid to it.

And, uh, it's a nice accent.

I actually got green matching seat belts, but I still want a little bit more plaid.

And after visiting at a Sunday lunch and seeing some of these cars,

I introduced some more plaid, but being respectful.

When the cars closed up, you don't even see it.

So I brought my car home over the holidays.

I sourced and believe it or not, it's very hard to source green tartan vinyl.

And so I did source it out of the UK, came in a few weeks ago, but then I was

wondering where I would put it.

And so now when you open the doors, hopefully you see it there.

Now, when you open the doors in the door jams of my 356, you will see, uh, some

tartan pretty different, pretty different.

I know I'm probably going to catch some flag from the line up.

Yeah, it does line up.

I took the time to line it up.

Cause I used to level everything.

A Bay City Rollers fan.

Yeah.

So for those of you that can't see, I actually lined the door jam of each of

the doors with the tartan vinyl and I did.

I used to level to line up the lines and it was a lot harder than you think.

I think people that do vinyl for a living probably laughed at how difficult I made

this, but I made templates and I cut it out.

I lined up the, the lines, not only horizontally, but vertically as well.

And so yeah, it's just a little, a little flair, but you only see it when you open

the doors.

I love how we rationalize this.

I know, right?

I know, right.

Uh, and it's also a very inexpensive thing to do.

Well, there, there's the real reason.

So back, back to the podcast, how many times the cars and coffee are we going

to see that car with the door open?

Well, he might just leave it open.

I'm saying just leave it open.

So what, uh, what made you guys, you, you've been listening to the podcast from

the very beginning, right?

I think we even have one of your quotes when we were promoting the podcast that

you, you wrote in one of the comments.

Cause back in the day on the platforms, we would encourage people to leave

comments and what was it?

Whatever, whatever software we were using to monitor the popularity.

So we didn't know what we didn't know when we started the podcast.

Oh, we were like listener.

I was a listener.

So I knew what I liked in podcasts.

Uh, but as far as doing one, we're Googling a lot and, and reading a lot

of, uh, help for unhelpful advice.

And, uh, one of the things they said was to, um, do at least four or five

episodes ahead of time.

So you can drop them all and get your, uh, your base audience started.

And then you start doing your, uh, your, your episodes.

So, um, we record it like a five episodes, try out the bat.

And, uh, so when I was looking back at the, um, I've got all the episodes

on a spreadsheet, I remember, I think it said January, all of them said

January 9th and that brought back the memory that we did the first ones.

Um, uh, excuse me, not the January, December night, 21th, we recorded five

of them or four of them, uh, not, not that same day, but, uh, they all

were released on that day.

So I think we did over four weeks.

Uh, we went up to a place in Balaire, uh, where my daughter managed a coffee

shop and underneath the coffee shop, the, uh, uh, same guy owned a coffee shop,

owned a, uh, recording studio.

He just put in, that was perfect for a podcast.

So before we would, cause at the time we didn't know we would get

passed four or five episodes.

So we said, before we buy any equipment, let's just rent stuff.

And then we'll see whether our members like it or not.

And then we'll, uh, we'll move forward.

Um, was it always video?

No, no, no, in fact, the first video, the first, first few videos is just audio.

So I was looking over.

So the first video, uh, because people actually want to see us talking,

which was bizarre to me.

I'm like, cause I would, I would listen to this day.

I, I listen to podcasts like spikes.

When he went to YouTube, it took me three days to watch the episode because

I don't have time to sit down for an hour, me personally.

Um, and so, uh, my commute is perfect for a podcast.

So our first podcast that we showed video was episode, um, 10 with, uh, Bob

Goodyear was the first one that, cause the same studio that was recording.

They also had video capability.

We asked them, Hey, can you also do video?

And they said, sure.

Um, there wasn't any pictures at the time.

I think it was just us sitting in the studio.

And is it still pretty rare that podcasts have a video component too?

They're becoming more and more popular, uh, because, uh, so when I started

doing the, uh, the podcast, I remember people would come up and they would

call tech tactics live the podcast.

And because I found out they were listening to tech tactics live in the

garage the day after, but they would say, yeah, put that tech tactics live

and listen to you guys while I'm working in my car, which that made me think,

well, there may be an audience for what I want to do.

You know, just have a cards and coffee type conversation.

Um, and, uh, people can just listen to it.

They don't have to be watching it, but turns out people likes to like this.

I'm thinking they're sitting at work and watching this.

Like having it on the side while they're pressing, pressing the button as

bodies go through a machine.

Yeah, you're good.

You're good.

I'm going to business the same lives.

You know, I, I find that now that they're video, I don't listen to them as frequently

because you want to see what's because I want to see.

And, you know, and that's why sometimes we have to remember to describe

because sometimes I, in my mind, people are just watching it.

But if you're listening to in the car and you didn't see the

photo of whatever we put up, like we try to have to remember to describe it.

Yeah, we get that comment a lot where people say, uh, I was listening to it.

But as soon as I got home, I went to the YouTube because I wanted to see

see some things.

A lot of the funniest ones are they say, I want to see Manny's face when

Vue says something.

No, no, it's really the opposite.

You want to see Vue's face when you say something.

Yeah.

So any particular episodes stand out for you guys after listening to a few?

I still like the one where, uh, the police were knocking on Manny's door.

That was like, uh, what was that, uh, before going to the SWAT meet or something?

Yes.

Yeah.

And then they before to SWAT meet.

That was episode 61.

61.

I took notes.

Oh, it's for you.

You understood the assignment.

I can't prepare it.

For those who don't know what that is based on a quick 32nd or 22nd summary is, uh,

my wife and I were spending the night up in Pennsylvania before the SWAT meet.

And we get a knock on the door around one o'clock in the morning.

It's the police.

We didn't know it was the police and we were in dead sleep and I go to the door

and I don't know what in the world's going on.

And we had one of those rooms that shared a door with the next door neighbor,

although we weren't sharing the door.

I thought that knocking was coming from that door and I'm thinking,

why is the next guy got person next door when he get in our room?

Finally, I realized it was out the entry door and I'm trying to look for the people

and I can't see anything.

And they're saying this police and I'm like,

if you're the police, why are you covering your, putting your thumb on the people?

And they're like, we're not.

I'm like, well, I can't see anything.

And the guy's like, well, can't you see sir?

Are you blind?

And I was like, no, I'm not blind.

So, uh, finally, I trust them enough.

I put the, you know, the, the little chain and I opened the door up a little bit.

And I see there was uniform police.

So then I opened the door up and it turns out

they had the wrong room.

Actually, it turned out they had the wrong hotel.

They were looking for someone who was being sex trafficked or something.

And I remember looking at my wife and I'm like, uh,

It's the right room.

I think as soon as I opened the door, they realized they had the wrong person

because they started backtracking, uh, big soap.

But you did the, you did the thing that you should never do.

You didn't see and you still open the door.

They could, you thought that chain, that chain could have saved you.

But the reason that I couldn't see through the door was, uh,

and if anyone's seeing the hotel now, thanks to Erin Andrews, I think,

they have that little thing that swings over top.

The, uh, the people have the cover so no one can look reverse wise.

Right.

I didn't realize that in half my, uh, my half asleep stupor in the dark.

I'm looking at something that's covered up, but I can't see anything.

So afterwards, yeah, my wife and I still laugh about that, that, uh,

the cop dance can be, if I'm blind.

I always found Nathan Merz's podcast to be very insightful.

Lots of really good information.

And he really can get down into the minutia, which is pretty interesting to,

to listen to him, that he's got it all.

It's all in his head.

That's what's crazy about it.

Yeah, for sure.

Damon, how about you?

Do you have a favorite?

Uh, yeah, I have, um, so I picked a few actually, but if I had to pick one,

oh man, this is tough.

I'm going to pick two.

And then if we, I have to, I picked you.

And if we, we have, um, more time or you need more options for me,

I have a couple more.

But first is the podcast that we had Alexander Fabigue here.

And we were talking about, um, gosh, what was it?

The classic club coop at the time and some of the Saundra one stuff that was,

I believe coming out.

Yeah, it was Saundra once and we were hearing it.

You know, um, straight from the source and, um, what was he saying?

He was saying if, if, if Porsche made it, you know, made a concept or, or made the car,

whether it was a production car or not, um, Saundra one, it seemed like it was Saundra

one can do it.

And there's one car that Porsche did do.

And I never thought that they would ever make a production car.

And I still think they will at some point, not a production car,

but maybe a one off, but it's the 904 living legend with the VW XL one.

And, um, I think the concept had it to coddy bike engine in it.

But, uh, the XL one is a fuel economy car, full carbon fiber VW body.

And they just make it sporty and super lightweight.

And the look on Alex's face, like I still think that that thing's going to come out

at some point.

Somebody's commissioned that and that's going to be a real car.

But, uh, he never confirmed denied or anything.

Who's got a face on like, he knows something.

I know nothing.

Yeah.

So, um, I know you always have to look at new space when we mentioned things that may

or may not be secret.

But, um, but yeah, so that was probably, um, my favorite episode based on just the subject

matter and who was there and I was very proud of myself.

That's not an episode.

What do you say about their, their face when that happened to me when we had the

993 Speedster that he came out with a couple of years ago to yellow one.

Yeah.

And, uh, so someone from Porsche Classic, I won't name who was there.

And I asked them, I said, so you're saying this is the third Speedster, but I saw one

when we had a tour back when I was president, we had a tour of Porsche Classic and I saw

one being worked on and I said, wait a minute, there's only two of them.

Jerry Seinfeld, Butsy Porsche.

I can't imagine their cars being taken down the bare metal.

So who's having a third one built?

And the guy basically said, um, we need to go back and join our tour.

And wouldn't say, but it's always stuck in my head.

Yep.

So when I saw this, I said, I wonder if this is the car.

So I asked the person, they were so shocked.

They were like, well, yes, technically this is the fourth one.

There's one other one, but they wouldn't elaborate any further than that.

But they were surprised.

They're looking at things that are really big when they realized that I had seen.

So a 993 Speedster.

993 Speedster.

Yeah.

With pumps like all the other ones have.

Yeah.

You couldn't miss it.

It was, it was so bare metal.

Yeah.

But we happened to be walking by the group and it wasn't covered up or anything.

It was, it was on the jig, like just the body.

And that's what immediately caught my attention being a 993.

So there are four of them is what you're saying?

And Peter's to be.

Yeah.

Porsche does not, they just say we will be announcing the other, the third one soon.

But they were calling the yellow one, the third one.

That's what threw me off because I said, but it's been such a long time.

It couldn't be the same car.

Anyway, that made me think about it.

When they look on the face like they just got caught.

Yeah.

So if we see a third or I should say a fourth Speedster, then we'll know for sure.

And that's just one of those things we'll never know.

Well, when you said that commission, I wonder, there's got to be some thunder once

that the person prefers not to have press.

Yeah.

Oh, true.

So I'm wondering if that car, much to your point, has already been built.

Yeah, true.

We just all know about it in the sitting in the collection.

Will we know 10 years from now?

We'll think, damn it.

And it comes up for sale.

Damon was right.

Look at this.

This is what the.

This is one that I really want to be right on.

Or maybe when Alex retires, we can ask him.

Yeah.

Or whatever it builds.

He's probably still got an Indian.

You know, when he retires.

Yeah, but that's just the coolest Porsche.

You know, it's so lightweight yet, you know, powerful, quick.

I really want it.

And, you know, I'm just going to go and talk about my second episode.

Let me remind myself.

Oh, yeah.

It was the, the Boardwalk reunion episode was probably.

The one we just did.

Yeah.

The one we just did.

And that's for a couple reasons.

So one, it was an awesome podcast.

I don't know if we've ever had, you know, in my opinion, that awesome chemistry,

you know, with Bob and Ellen and you, too.

I mean, that was just so fun to watch.

I mean, I was, I had to remind myself.

There were a few hecklers in the audience, too, as I recall.

Yeah.

And I had exactly.

Yeah.

That wasn't even a podcast.

That was just like the four of us.

That's a typical gathering.

Yeah.

That was good.

It could have been lunch a couple of hours earlier.

Yeah.

But I had to remind myself that, hey, I'm recording this and I have things to do.

It was just a lot of fun to listen to.

But also that podcast sort of, for me, represents like all this equipment you see here,

if you're watching the YouTube version of this, was the first time I had packed all that up

into my cayenne, headed out.

The second generation of the equipment.

Yeah, exactly.

And, you know, I just understand this equipment more.

It's not exactly the same stuff that we started out with.

Some of it is.

But I set up in an hour and a half or two and ready to go early.

And the compliment, Damon, he gets very stressed, I can tell.

Because he wants it done right, not just this, but tech tactics.

And of course, the audience never sees it because it happens almost flawlessly.

But everyone will notice if it's not right.

But tech tactics, we've done several now with Underdainment and it has been drama-free.

I made one mistake, but it was for those little Easter egg.

If you watch the first Tech Tactics Live of 2025, which was only in November, I think,

there is one or two seconds where I press fade to black by accident.

And then it came back and they're all good.

Let's take it back.

It was a feature.

Yeah, exactly.

How about for you, your favorite?

Well, I didn't pick anyone in particular, but the ones with Nathan.

The ones with Nathan?

Just are very certainly educational.

He's probably done a handful.

Nathan didn't live on the other coast.

You or I wouldn't be.

True.

Well, I don't want to set too many expectations, but I'm pretty sure it's going to happen in

2026 is that I've got to figure out how to bring people in on a video call, a live feed.

So that's been a sticking point.

If you've noticed, we haven't done that almost there.

If you look at our early episodes when we were bringing people in, it was not the best audio.

So we kind of stopped doing that.

Well, during COVID, when you were doing Tech Tactics Live, there were times and it was a

function of what kind of internet connection they had.

Yeah, the person who was calling in and what kind of microphone they had, what kind of lighting,

all these factors that we had no controller.

What kind of internet speed.

But the problem is, if it's bad, it's bad.

And then, you know, I remember Nathan even said some ring light things.

So it would have better lighting and it was a lot to it.

But it worked.

Especially during COVID.

We could get away with it during COVID just because I mean, it was that or nothing.

So now we don't have that luxury.

Manny, your favorite?

I would probably say, for me, I always enjoy when we're interviewing people that I thought

when I was young and an enthusiast had hair.

I would dance when I had hair.

I would never have thought that I would be in a room talking this first.

Like when we did Alois Roof.

Yes.

Or Alan Springer.

Yes.

Even having Alex Fabigue.

He's pretty high up in portion for him to come over to Maryland, to our offices to sit down

for a podcast.

But all the people that did like Bruce Meyer, people that I just never thought that I would

be interviewing, it's pretty cool.

So a lot of times the interviewers are just like, it takes me back to when I was a little kid,

learning about Porsche.

Just I want to be too much like Chris Farley or have you ever seen those skits when he

interviews like Paul McCartney and says, remember when you were in the Beatles?

I try to be professional about it, but I can easily geek out as a fanboy for a lot of these folks.

Yeah, for me, it's the same.

The people that you mentioned actually, what I put was kind of our archived podcast where

we're talking to people in hopes to capture some of the brilliant experiences that they've had,

their collections, their life story, Bruce, Alan, Louise Roof, those were super special to me.

So right along the same lines as you, Manny.

But of course, episode 84, for those of you that don't know, that is the one where I came back

after my stint.

That is the special one to me just because one, I came back.

It's not long ago.

Yeah, episode 84.

23, at Lynch Fort.

Episode 84.

So coming back after my stint and being able to share that with all of you and since that episode,

at least half a dozen, if not a dozen people mentioning to me when we're traveling that they,

after listening to that, either themselves went to go get an annual checkup or a friend did.

And, you know, I've had someone that ended up with a pacemaker getting put in,

someone that had a stint put in, or just finding out that they have high cholesterol or something

like that.

And that kind of makes me feel good that something that happened to me is, you know,

help somebody else that they, let's be honest, like guys are kind of like bad about staying

healthy or they'll put it off.

But because they listen to that episode, they're like, you know what, maybe I'll make that appointment

because if Vue didn't, he wouldn't be here.

So maybe it's not so bad.

And so, yeah, that's the one that means the most to me.

But yeah, episode 84 doesn't seem like it was that long ago.

Right?

It's two, it's more than two years ago that that.

Well, rent score's coming up again.

So not, maybe not.

And our first podcast was 21, right?

It was December 9th, 21 was the first time we, we dropped a podcast.

And did you go back and look at some of those older episodes?

I did.

I tried.

You're a bit of a plus size model.

Just saying.

It was the cameras we were getting back then.

A bit of a plus size model back then.

If you go back to 22, yes, and even 23, man, there's a big difference between.

I was on Roxanne deck because I was looking through some, getting some interesting stats.

And I told her, I said, you know, because I see Vue every day, you don't see really the weight loss.

But when you look back at the video, you're like, huh.

There may not, may not have put four people around the stage.

Rich being bold here.

I had seen you in a couple of months during this, over this past summer.

Yeah.

And then you showed up one Sunday morning and I'm going, where is the rest of him?

Yeah.

You know, you don't fit the description that Peter gave you.

ULV, unusually large V&M's.

I've almost normal sized V&M's now, almost.

I will tell you, you do a great job as host and for those who don't know how things work,

I like produce the show.

So normally I come up with the idea or Vue will suggest an idea and then, you know,

I try to schedule the guests and whatnot.

And then I have to come up with the questions and then what we call the runner show.

The only time I've seen him nervous is this past year when we had Gunner, Jeanette.

Yes.

Oh man.

I had to really, yeah.

So those of you that have listened know that I'm not into sports, nor am I really into

motor sports.

Like I, I appreciate it, but I don't know the details.

Like man, he's got all of that.

Right.

And he was like, oh, we're going to interview Gunner, Jeanette.

I'm like, oh, I know who he is.

I know the cars, but I don't know much.

Like how am I going to host this?

So it is tough when, yeah.

It's not.

I gave him a whole list of questions and I told him, I said, yeah, obviously I'll be participating

in the question, but he was, he kept on saying, you sure you're going to be able to help me out

with this?

Because like I'm not going to leave you hanging and say, yeah, tell us about the difference

between LMS and Grand M.

But how tempting is it to leave him hanging every now and then?

That's, and that's what's great with the team is I think we can, there's a lot of times where

Foreigners review times.

Yeah.

Or people don't realize like I ask questions.

I know the answers to it, but for the flow of the show and sort of my role versus Damon's

role versus man's role and what's going on, like it's, it's, it's good to, to, to kind of be in

your space and let the other person answer what members are expecting them to be most knowledgeable

about.

Granted, he does have way more Porsche trivia knowledge and history than I do.

But yeah, it's, I have to focus on keeping the flow and the rhythm.

In fact, we have to go and recognize our corporate sponsor here shortly.

But that's what I do.

Like a lot of times when I ask questions, I don't even listen to you guys' answers.

Like I'll, I'll listen to the show later and that's when I'll hear your answer.

But I'm on to the, to the next question.

Well, I would say you do listen to the answers.

Yeah, not as closely as enough to show these paying attention.

Well, yeah, but he also listens to it so that he can come up with some sort of smart alec

response as well.

I'm not the smart alec one.

He's the one.

Oh wait, wait a minute.

The way we learned early on when we started doing videos is we, we found that it's easier

if you talk to the guests ahead of time and you're, what you're doing is you're asking the

guest questions that you're going to be asking later on.

So when you're recording and the guest hears that question, they're like, Oh,

I'll just answer this.

I know exactly.

Cause sometimes it can be tough for people when the camera turns on and there's a lights,

they kind of freeze up.

And so we'll like, I got one springer.

We, uh, he told us, I'm not used to it.

When he first started doing stuff with us, he said, I'm not used to being in front of

the camera and everything.

So we went to dinner and we just talked about stuff and everything we talked about during

dinner, we did again in the podcast.

We didn't get there.

Yeah, they took you to dinner.

That's your coffee out of the machine.

I didn't get my dinner.

I guess we all my dinner.

Wait, wait, wait, when you do all the stuff, I mean, I was springer.

Yeah, we get dinner.

We get your dinner.

But that's usually how it works with, um, with Gunner though, we didn't have any chance

to talk to him ahead of time.

He kind of, that made it even more like stressful for me.

He came in like 10 minutes before we're going to record and boom, we're ready to go.

Like he too was also like, he was built for a show.

Like he's so eloquent and like you just give him a little lead and he just took it off with it.

So it works out.

We, we plan a lot, but sometimes we shoot for the moon.

Sometimes like the Bruce Meyer thing was just kind of off the cuff because we were in the

area and I knew how much he, um, you know, followed Bruce and the Peterson.

And I'm like, the worst, worst he can say is he's not available.

But he turned out, he said he, and there the key was I'd listened to a bunch of, um,

podcasts with Bruce on there.

And I thought, what if we could just, and when I listened to him, I said, boy, I wish

they would.

I asked more questions about his porches.

And so I said, the view, I said, we're going to focus in just on this portion that he has.

Yeah.

He has a bunch of other cards, but for our listeners, we're going to feature just the

portions and have him tell stories about them.

So that hopefully made us a little bit more different than the other podcast that he's been on.

Yeah.

So for 2026, as Damon said, he's going to work on being, being able to bring someone on live.

For those of you that are listening, what would you like to see in 2026?

Is it more guests?

Is it collections?

Is it more our market, um, podcasts, market data ones?

Those always do really well.

I get it.

Everybody wants to know how much cars are worth.

And of course, Nathan and folks are super knowledgeable.

But what would you like put it in the comments, what you would like to see in 2026?

If we can make it happen, we will.

We definitely want to bring content that means something to you.

Man, anything else that you think we'll, we'll be doing in 2026?

No, I would love to, uh, well, obviously we have a, as you can see by the size of our table,

we have a very limited budget here.

So while we would love to travel and do a lot of interviews, we kind of like do interviews

that when it's opportunity.

So we're out doing something else than we, I always try to see is there an opportunity

to do podcasts while we're, uh, we're out there.

Um, yeah, as many guests as we can get possible.

The interesting guests, I think, uh, improves the, uh, we were numbers 13 and 14.

Yeah, exactly.

Well, the funny thing is we talked about, let's get people who listen to,

let's get two people who listen to the podcast regularly.

And, uh, there was other people that, uh, that've been on the show, like, uh, Bob Miller,

he was, I counted the most popular guests.

He's been on 11 times.

Um, but I don't think Bob listens to the podcast necessarily just probably because

he doesn't have the time.

He's got a real job.

He's commutes like 10 minutes.

So he doesn't really, uh, not a podcast person, but I thought Rich listened to it.

So I asked him.

Yeah, we thought of you guys cause you guys always have something to say.

You listen.

We know you listen cause you're always bringing quoting stuff.

Well, you know, I do have a, I know we talked about this off camera before,

but I do miss the one mile reviews.

I enjoyed those.

Oh, of the videos.

Yeah, yeah.

Of those.

Yeah.

So, uh, I have a question about that too.

What, what did you enjoy?

So I still do reviews, but they're not as, um, uh, spaced out.

Did you enjoy having the rating at the end is why maybe you like one mile reviews,

or do you just like having regular, like every week or two?

Yeah.

I like the regular every week.

Okay.

Yeah.

Oh, noted, noted.

Yeah.

That's the sort of feedback we'd like to hear.

The frequency of it and different cars.

Yeah.

And they're short, you know.

Right, right, right.

You can sit out, even if you have a 10 minute commute, because typically they were.

Yeah.

They used to be 10 to 15.

Now they're more in the 20 to 25.

Yeah.

I think that's for me too.

Like I know that sounds weird, but like a 10 minute commitment to a video versus a 20

minute commitment.

Like if I'm on the exercise bike, I'll commit to a 20 minute video, but a 10,

five to 10 is kind of like my sweet spot.

Well, yeah.

And when you're talking about a 20 minute video of just somebody's face when they're

driving, it's kind of hard.

I mean, it's different if you got, like you said, we're talking about production costs

and stuff like that.

If you got different angles and, you know, going around corners and.

Cinematic.

Yeah, exactly.

It's different story, but if it's just you and the car talking about the car and it's

just your face.

Yeah.

I mean, 10 minutes is probably all you really need.

Yeah.

More than eight for the YouTube ads.

Sorry for those who don't have YouTube premium, but it helps with the cost.

More than eight, but probably less than 15.

That's absolutely true.

When I watch car videos, I fast forward the actual review of the car.

Uh-huh.

I like to like, I love Doug DeMora's reviews because he does all the.

The details.

Details of the car and I'll watch that.

But the minute he gets in the car, I'm done.

Oh, really?

Because to me, car reviews, you know what they're like to me?

They're like the hallmark movies.

You know, a small town girl gets stuck or big city girl gets stuck in a small town,

meets a farmer who's single or, or, uh, the wife just died.

Careful, careful, man.

You know, all this stuff that, uh, that, uh, it's the same formula all the time.

So there's only, it's like there's only.

What he's saying is it's predictable.

Yes.

He could have just said it's predictable, but he had to go there and make me nervous.

That's what he does.

I don't know where I know where he's going, but I don't know where he's going.

He don't want to know exactly where he ends up.

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This one was the first time I heard about this, uh, through the link that Manny provided.

And it has to do with vehicles in Canada because I heard about Russia, but not Canada.

Well, they're being recalled because, uh, as you know, they're required in Canada.

When you put the car in reverse, the camera has to come and come up on the screen and it hasn't.

And so they're recalling, uh, it looks like everything from 2019, Cayenne, Panamera,

Taycan, 911 turbo, 911 Carrera.

So it looks like the mid-engined cars weren't affected by this, uh,

McDonald's, a rear view camera image that doesn't display could reduce the driver's ability to

see behind a vehicle while backing up that could increase the risk of a crash.

But I thought they do when you put it in reverse.

I thought everyone had a rear view mirror.

Well, that too, but inside mirrors too.

But are they saying that the camera's not coming up when they put it in reverse?

Yeah, it's not coming up on the screen.

Occasionally, like it's out.

Enough to where they're not, uh, 25,000 vehicles in Canada.

So, so it's, but normally, why, why is limited to Canada?

What's the Canada market?

The programming.

Oh, that's weird.

Yeah, well, what's different than Canada?

I know.

And cause I think the US, when did they require that?

2016, I believe.

2016.

So yeah.

Every modern car, Porsche, when you put in reverse that I've been in has the rear.

You guys use the camera or you still go to the rear view mirror?

I use both, but I, I love having a rear view camera because you can just get that much closer to

the bumper when you're getting in and out of parallel parking.

Like I love a rear view camera.

Like I, I had one, I had rear view cameras on my car before it was mandated.

I even have a front view camera in our Odyssey.

That's how much I like them.

You said that was because your wife kept on hitting them.

No, no, no, no.

I think that is, I seem to recall here.

Another, another news item that we have has to do with the Porsche 718 electric.

None of the wives are this far into the video.

You're clear.

Uh, Manny always trying to get me in trouble.

718 electric back on the news.

My God, how long have we been importing spy shots of this car that Porsche,

whenever we talk to them, will admit that they're building.

But yes, there's more spy shots of the, uh, electric 718.

I am still very curious to see how they're going to put a gas engine into the same platform.

They are, they are going to do it.

Well, let's like I said, uh, it's, it's, uh, we hear that it's potentially possible.

And it's going to, but it's something where they said they are going to make an ice version.

Yeah. Porsche hasn't, I don't believe officially confirmed it, but whatever they decide to do

with this platform, it's not going to be next year.

It's not going to be two years from now.

It's going to be at least just think of all the tests.

One, one, you have to figure out what they're going to do.

Then they have to figure out all the testing and the regulations and the policies.

And if you look at some of the news coming out now, and I'll give Damon credit, you know,

it's, they are saying it's all going to be hybrid, like the, uh, Turbo S and a GTS.

It's going to be a hybrid system.

Like not a normally aspirated.

I thought I read where it's just going to be a straight up ice.

No, I probably did, but remember what people write.

And if you look at the bottom, it says none of this has been confirmed by Porsche.

Yeah.

And when we talked to the Porsche folks, they just rolled their eyes.

And I'm not surprised this is happening at all.

They have to do something.

They have to do something to shift, to meet market demand.

So maybe for those of us that are, you know, still very much interested in ice offerings,

it's good that they're looking into it.

I cannot wait to drive an electric Macan or electric Cayman or a Boxster.

I'm so excited.

I'm going to hold my, my opinion until I drive one.

And Mr. Rich is already shaking his head.

It's not a turbo.

I'm not interested.

I can wait.

Yeah.

Actually, it might have turbo.

Give it a like, might say turbo.

Oh, okay.

I see.

He was like five seconds at the side, what he wants to do.

Why he waits for the turbo to spool up.

Yeah.

So, well, I guess I'm, I'm asking.

Well, I guess speed, you can have speed, but you don't not necessarily need the speed.

So the first time your doors get blown away by an electric version, 718,

Boxster, it doesn't matter to you.

I drive a 930.

It's not fast.

Yeah.

You know, it's the experience.

The experience.

I get it.

I totally get it.

It could be fast.

See that I keep your foot on the gas.

That's all.

Wow.

Okay.

Well, this next news item about a color change.

So this is also, I think BMW had this before where you basically hit a button and the,

the colors can change car.

And that's what Porsche is seriously looking at.

And also where the camera sees a color and it'll change your car to the color.

Oh, really?

Interesting.

It's a, but I think I,

the BMW didn't have the color change.

The BMW had the, the, uh, sort of exoskeleton fabric thing where the, the shape of the car changed.

The shape or not?

The shape of the car.

This is going to be the color.

This is a color change.

What's this a James Bond thing?

What are you talking about?

The color change?

The color would change.

Yeah.

Where it changed to the background.

That was in one of the earlier James Bond's.

Well, the thing, I guess, much like James Bond,

my first thought is law enforcement.

And what do they think?

Because what, when they're chasing something, part of the description is the color of the car.

And if you can just change colors that quickly, that can really confuse things.

If everyone thinks we're looking for a white Bronco and it turns out the Bronco is now black

or blue, whatever color.

But this, this leads to the other thing is what's difficult about a dealership

keeping a certain car in stock for a customer?

Color.

Color, right?

Oh yeah.

So imagine if every car you ordered could just be some base color.

White, black, gray, whatever it is.

But then when the customer comes in, the color can be changed based on what they want.

I suppose you're sure it works for you and you're like,

this is a one-on-one color and the guy next to you goes, not anymore.

But that could change inventory.

Like that could make it way more efficient.

But think about if the car is in an accident, the cost to repair.

Yeah.

Because how do you...

I'm sure they put that into the factors.

The new paint to sample.

Upcoming events.

Let's see.

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We have Works Reunion, Amelia Island on March 6th.

Believe it or not, the judge area is sold out, but the corral area is open.

Florida in March, it's going to be a fun time.

And also you can see all that's going on Amelia Island over...

By the way, the episode dropped today.

I call you out for another presentation.

So...

Oh, he did.

You might want to listen to that one.

He's looking at Rich when he said that.

He's looking at Amelia?

Yeah.

Coming to Amelia.

You got one?

To be determined.

He's going to go.

To be determined.

He doesn't want to miss out.

It could have been shining light because we're doing transaxles.

Oh, yeah.

That's right.

You have a transaxle.

Now you have three transaxles.

Now you have to park it in the corral.

Wow.

I know people.

You know people.

That's not a corral bad.

Corral's good.

Actually, the corral...

Walking through the corral is just as important.

They might party better in the judge area.

There's a lot of nice stuff.

They do a lot of nice stuff.

Like tailgating over there.

A complete full fairway of cars.

I mean, it's...

And they park them by model too.

Then the corral.

And who runs this?

No.

Porsche Club of America.

Exactly.

So I know people.

Yeah, the corral parks by model.

They do.

Yeah, until like towards the end of the day where they kind of mix it up.

But in the mornings, they all bring them in and try to park it by model.

This is the parking.

Not just the...

No, this is corral.

Not public parking.

Oh, okay.

Public parking.

They park wherever.

But the corral they...

But the public parking is quite the array of cars.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

And that has all cars.

That's where you can see the exotic cars.

But in fact, when we did the first horse reunion in Monterey,

and they had to park on the side of the street,

we had...

We've got more people than we ever thought we were going to get.

And I remember people saying...

Ma walked down on the shoulder of the highway.

They said it was like a walking in a car show

because there was all these exotic cars parked on the shoulder to come to the event.

Yeah.

I remember I volunteered to take people back to their cars at a parking lot.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I would go up and down a few times and then come back and get people.

We also have Treffenet C, where we'll be sailing out of Vancouver down to LA

that departs on September 19th.

But you can register today.

And actually, you will want to do that sooner than later

because the rooms will sell out, especially the ones that have the deck.

So Treffenet C, 2026.

Balcony, you mean?

Balcony.

What did I say, deck?

Yeah.

Yeah, Balcony.

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And thank you all again.

This has been an extended version.

We went a little bit over.

Anything else?

Especially to our listeners.

Exists without you all tuning in every week and making it justifiable

to our executive counsel for us to exist.

I did do a quick looking at all our past episodes for some milestones.

And I already said when our first video was...

Our first remote podcast was episode 17 at the Poconos.

Our first one where we moved away from the coffee bar

into our own little tiny desk here is episode 19.

Our most popular episode was actually episode 25 back in 2022

when we did the crazy Monterey Car Week adventure.

Oh, really?

At least from YouTube.

That's our most popular.

And the first podcast with Damon at the helm.

Guess what that was?

What was it?

140.

I don't even remember.

And that was even that long ago.

116.

116?

Wow.

Oh boy.

I believe Damon has done actually more than Robert did.

Because Robert didn't pick up right away.

He didn't pick up until what I say 20.

Oh, right.

Right.

Because we were using them when we moved into here.

So yeah, same thing, Damon.

I looked at him like, wow.

Seemed like just yesterday when we told Damon,

by the way, you're going to be doing the controls for us.

Well, like I said, if once again,

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Even the funny ones that you guys sent to us.

Well, we'll have to do an episode where we get the funny comments.

Yeah, that would be a good one.

The ones where we get called fat.

Yeah.

That was a funny one.

Prosperous.

Let's say we were prosperous.

We've talked to a fence to that mainly

because they called Damon fat too.

They were like three overweight guys.

They were like, well, Damon's not overweight.

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