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In a world with entirely too many shows about cars, this is another Pointless Automotive
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How are you doing today, man?
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I don't know, boy, I don't know if I'm better or worse than I was roughly this day in
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I'd like to think better, but I don't know.
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So the past four years have been good to you?
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Yeah, I think in that positive.
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That's pretty good, right?
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I'd say lower back pain plus 10.
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I'd say internal organ damage plus 30.
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Yeah, no, a little more gray in the beard.
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Yeah, no, not terribly bad the past four years to tell you the truth.
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Yeah, I mean, like, yeah, you've had no other life events take place at all in the last
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four plus years, but you know what we have been doing?
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Roughly, since roughly this date in November 2021.
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I have zero fucking clue, man.
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Tell me what we were doing four years ago.
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Podcasting, big dog.
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Oh, what are you celebrating with?
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Just another PBR from the Volt.
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Yeah, I'm having some heavily discounted cider from the local market.
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Hey, I've heard that expiration dates are just a number, dude.
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Yeah, yeah, exactly.
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There's, yeah, and we're bringing up the age of this podcast because, well, you're
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named in the Epstein list, and so am I.
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So we're probably this might be the times.
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This might be the end.
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Yeah, because of the whole age is only number thing.
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No, we were the original Epstein Island boys, if you will.
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That should probably stick.
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Oh, can I take us on to a quick non sequitur?
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I don't think we have a choice.
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So I had this thought the other day where I was on some group text and somebody
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was just like, oh, like, what if they made an Epstein movie, right?
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Like, you know, like, obviously you have a main antagonist, Mr. Epstein himself, right?
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And it's the horrors of, I suppose you can even make it a horror movie.
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But I was thinking how wild would it be?
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Because it's like, well, then who do you cast as Hefe Epstein?
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And my thought was like, what if, have you ever seen, you've seen the movie
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Brad Morgan Freeman.
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I took a fun story.
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I took a chick to see that movie in theaters in middle school.
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I think it was an 8th grade.
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That was a bold move.
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Were you like, what's in the popcorn?
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And you did the popcorn trick.
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We got to the scene where the guy bangs the chick with the razor blade
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We made out the whole time.
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True story, though.
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Anyway, back to Epstein.
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No, so what I was getting at is so in that movie, all the trailers
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and everything, Kevin Spacey was not shown as being the bad guy.
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It was like the unveil, the reveal, he tried to say, at the end where they
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were, oh my God, you find out who the bad guy is.
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And it's like, and it's Kevin Spacey.
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What if they did that for the Epstein movie again with Kevin Spacey?
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So you have like a Hollywood predator who's been blackballed returns to play the
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ultimate rest of the world predator in Jeffrey Epstein.
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And that's his return.
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It'd be like, it'd be like a real life casting M Night Shyamalan plot twist.
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Like, imagine the jaws that would drop if when like halfway through, because it's
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like, you see emails, right?
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Like, oh, there's these emails and it's correspondent.
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And it's just like, whatever Gis Lane or whatever her name is, it's like, oh, yeah,
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like she's the intermediary.
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And then like halfway through the movie, it's unveiled who Jeff Epstein is.
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And it's fucking Kevin Spacey playing.
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That he would do that because I saw an article recently about how he's like
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he's like singing in a nightclub.
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He's singing in a nightclub like somewhere.
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So I'm going to the nightclub.
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That's what I'm saying.
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Well, let's not have drinks after.
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But Bill Cosby, remember that time?
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I think it cuts out at the end when he definitely did not hang himself.
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And it's like, it's Lane Maxwell is above his cell with puppet springs
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We're well spoken today.
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And then she cuts the strings and just cackles in the screen fades.
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So, you know what, let's just go direct this.
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Let's go now. Yeah, definitely.
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Yeah, it's like it's like a it's like a.
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Yeah, it's kind of like a twist on the the ending of the Sopranos, right?
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Or like it cuts to black and it piss off everybody.
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Pissed everyone off.
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Yeah, but, you know, another thing they can do for the ending, right?
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You actually watched a fucking acclaimed series, though, by the way.
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I never seen a second of that show.
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I only know how it ends.
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Oh, sorry. Sorry, guys.
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So, so, but here's the thing.
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So to steal to steal something from another movie, how they can end it
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Like you have it end with him.
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Quote unquote, hanging himself, quote unquote, in the cell, right?
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But you ever seen the movie Clue?
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So in what they did on the board game, based on the board game
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and it had I think Catherine O'Hara was in that it had
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Frank Inferter from Curry, Tim Curry, Tim Curry was in it.
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The demon from Legend.
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I would have also accepted in it from Stephen King, exactly.
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Hamoka in Congo, of course, his greatest role.
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Yeah. By the way, thank you for tuning into the movie hour.
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He was in Home Alone as well.
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Home Alone 2, my son watched that like an hour ago.
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So in the movie Clue, when they released it in the movie theater,
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they gave it like four or five alternate endings and each
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random movie theater got a random ending.
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Some people were like, oh, yeah, when it was like, you know, the
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with the lead pipe in the smoking room or whatever, it's like how it ended.
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It was, yeah, it was, you know, what's his face?
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Mrs. Pennyweather or whatever their names are.
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But you do that with the Kevin Spacey cast Epstein movie
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where maybe one of them, one theater, he gets, he actually hangs himself.
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The other one like like Krusty Bill Clinton sneaks in there, right?
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And does this thing.
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The other one like a Trump underling big balls or whatever goes in there
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and doges into death.
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I don't know, but like you have all these different,
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all these are George Soros sneaks in there.
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I see. Yeah, you go full.
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You just go full conspiracy theory on a bunch of them, right?
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Yeah, what one of you ought to be able to fixiates himself.
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And it's actually an accident.
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You know, and then one of them is a cuts to a scene.
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It shows a bunch of airplane like plane tickets and a couple
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how to fly, you know, whatever model planes.
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And then September 11th on a calendar circled and it just cuts out.
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Yeah, it's just like, wait a minute.
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You just make it all these all these crazy.
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Yeah, it ends up being a dream and he just wakes up and it's like.
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Or somebody wakes up, right?
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Like, I don't. Yeah, dude, he wakes he wakes up
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when he's on the set of the fake moon landing.
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No, it's too far. Yeah, exactly.
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Yeah, yeah. And no, the whole what happens is
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you can you can cast someone
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who's also hard up for money right now, right?
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And oh, God, my brain just broke.
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Turning the frogs gay.
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What's his name? What's his face? Oh, Alex Jones.
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I probably had you have you have it.
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And where Alex Jones wakes up from like a fever dream in middle of the night
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and and it was all the whole Epstein thing was just like an Alex Jones fever dream.
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There's so many ways that you can go.
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I love it. I don't think we should apologize.
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This is this perfect exemplary of what we've been building up for the past four years.
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It is. This is our manifest destiny, if you will.
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It's our carpe dies nuts.
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I've been trying to feature car oriented video games or related video games
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in the background shots of my YouTube channel. I saw it's a little blurry.
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It's does that Star Fox will be an episode is Tokyo Extreme Racer for Sega Dreamcast.
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One of my favorite games.
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Great studio. They just released a new game after a 20 year hiatus.
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I don't know what we're talking about.
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Just race people on the highway.
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You pull up, shine your high beams and go.
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It's based on like the Tokyo, you know, the midnight club,
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the highway racers of the 90s.
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So cool, cool shout out.
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But I'm going to feature a vintage video game racing video game in the back.
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I'm into it. I need to I need to do something similar.
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I need like a whiteboard behind me.
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And I clean up my garage a fair bit, actually.
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It looks pretty good.
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All right. It's a little it's a little car light, if you will, but it is.
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Yeah, I just I need to shove something back in there.
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Quiet and yeah, yeah, yeah.
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No, no, there's a getting shoved into paper shredder
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somewhere or a redacting machine before they get released.
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The anyways, this is all a long lead in to talk about
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we've been doing this for four years, and I know we're right off of the heels.
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It doesn't seem like we have.
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It's it's right off the heels of our 200th episode.
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So not to like go like full wax poetic and just make every episode
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after 200 be us just like
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flating ourselves for having done this for for as long as we've been doing.
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But, you know, like we've done a you and I have done a bunch of different
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automotive world bullshit over the last four years.
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And, you know, last, you know, last week, we talked about
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the various episodes and things that we've talked about
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specifically on the podcast that we enjoyed.
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But yeah, I know you wanted to talk more about just car world stuff
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and shenanigans or achievements or whatever.
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In our little circle for the last four years.
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And shit, I got nothing better to talk about.
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So. Oh, yeah, yeah.
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So I make notes as you get no surprise in the past four years.
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I make notes for every episode.
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The first note said 20 minutes of random topic.
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Epstein Island question mark, seven question mark.
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Yeah, that would be amazingly ridiculous if I did that.
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So if you guys are listening to this, the day at post, this is four years
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in two days to the date our first podcast was released into the public.
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The world immediately choked, gagged and died on it.
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But we're happy about that.
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So that long ago, it's really any anniversary, right?
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And this is our fruit and flower anniversary or four year anniversary.
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Who celebrates that?
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No, but yeah, seriously, I'll say it's like
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edible arrangement.
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I was going to say, do you think it was made for the story of the edible
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arrangement? So it was like fruit and flower.
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There's got to be like, you got to go to one place to buy fruit.
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You got to go to the other place to buy flowers.
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Not anymore, my friend.
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You don't have to go anywhere.
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It comes right to you, unfortunately.
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And it's neither good nor bad.
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It's right in the middle.
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So an anniversary is basically a celebration of, I don't know,
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humans being able to tolerate each other for a fixed amount of time.
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Bear that being said, that's kind of what I predicated
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this whole episode on is to ask you, Frank, what are your some
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of your personal favorite memories of this relationship
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since we started this this podcast?
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Boy, car related, not as sexual as you usually start off with.
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Let's let's get fair.
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Yeah, yeah, no, that's I say, I say, getting fired up there.
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You know, got to warm them up, so to speak.
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The boy, you know, it's it's tough
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because there's so much there's some gray area.
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And by that, I mean
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there's a lot of stuff that like we, you know, we've you and I have done
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directly in in in embedded into the podcast, right?
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Like when we went out to and we talked about last week
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when we went out to Carnegie and we did some offroading
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bullshittery killer.
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That was you know, that was and then we recorded a podcast there.
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So that is like directly related to this.
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But there's a bunch of like dumb cars that I've bought
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not for the podcast, but just like
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emboldened because of the bullshit that we discuss
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and having someone to be like, look at this dumbass thing
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that I'm bringing home because I'm I'm an idiot with no morals.
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So I'm going to buy this car and bring it home and beyond.
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And so kind of thinking more akin to that, right?
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Because we talked a bunch of that other stuff like buying
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the Ford Focus SVT, right, was directly related to the podcast.
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I don't know, I think just being more engaged
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and involved in the local car community.
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That's a good point.
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Just, you know, partly for the Laws and partly
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because it's something I enjoy, but partly because of like,
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you know, of this podcast and just like, hey, like, like
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when you and I went to morning motors and my car shit the bed.
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But like going out and being part of the community
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and seeing our DWA homies and other people.
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Yeah, I think that's something I've done a lot more
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over the last four years, certainly, than I would have done otherwise.
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Yeah. And I think you nailed it.
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Like the way we send cars to each other, we buy stupid cars.
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We're the really bad financial ruin race where we each keep trying
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to like edge one another out, literally, figuratively,
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to see who can buy the worst cars and the greater amount of cars.
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Because like, honestly, the the Hyundai Genesis of this relationship,
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Frank, you and I, is that we met because I was buying shit boxes from you,
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right? That's that's literally where it started.
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And it hasn't let up.
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We've wanted it to let up.
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Our best efforts, our good intention.
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What is it? The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
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Yeah, our road to financial success is paved with shit boxes.
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It's just impossible to navigate.
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Yeah. I feel like that's it.
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That's where we started.
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We still kind of feed off that energy.
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You're like, oh, yeah, what did you buy?
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And we fucking immediately face palm, but at the same time go,
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God damn, that's cool, dude, right?
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Do you. And what's funny is this, like, we're all we're always
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in good. Yeah, you should buy that.
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You should buy that pile of garbage or whatever.
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The one where we both put our heads together, we're like,
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yeah, we should not we should not buy this.
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Was a really good car and it's sold for it's sold for we could
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we were going to combine forces on it and it's sold for.
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You know, after 10 grand plus.
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What what we would have been in it for.
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So just strengthens the lesson learned.
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We're not in it for the money, man.
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I don't always be closing on shit boxes.
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That rolls off the tongue.
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Yeah. So I think just.
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I don't know, having.
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And through this, not just the pod, but just being more involved
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in the the local and and not local car world.
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Yeah. And then having having multiple people in this space
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to bounce bad ideas off of rights.
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Fortunately and unfortunately and bolded to me to to bring
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some strays home that I normally wouldn't have like the
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Vittara, which is I brought home and I was gone and
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put three grand in my pocket for.
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Do you have anything anything more specific that was like super.
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Which is which is one of the two that don't take notes.
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How about you have something more specific, more?
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I don't have a lot of that.
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I think I think we need to do more pod specific stuff because
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that, like you said, the off-road adventure was a super
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The rally car challenge also a super blast.
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Like I like, yeah, right?
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It's just I like the idea of us like setting parameters,
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restricting ourselves and then trying to like compete
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but compete kind of to do something crazy that most people
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would be like, what is wrong with you guys?
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And we still make it happen somewhat.
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Have you pushed, I'm assuming you've pushed your focus
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SVT into the Bay by this point?
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No, it's just been it's been street parked.
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I had up until very recently, I've had a lot of like work
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busyness, but also for those playing along at home via
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video, I got a new garage door.
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Look at this animal.
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And so I had to like work on some other shit.
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That's why the sprint turbo is not in the garage right now.
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And I bought this toolbox over there.
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I'm going to go get that guy in there.
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So I use this as an opportunity to clean up my
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That's actually part of my project car progress,
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So no, it's just so unexciting to it was such
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a pain in the junk to get that lower radiator was done
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because it's just such a pain in the balls on that car.
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And it's so unmotivating to drain all the coolant out
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again and do it all on jack stands on the ground and
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like, I honestly, I might just like find some cheek
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be local shop that like broke.
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And I just pay you an hour labor, whatever,
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just to swap the put it in the air, swap this.
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Like if it's 100 bucks, 150 bucks, like just be done
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I might just do that, which is kind of the coward's way
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But to be fair, though, we're not scrutinizing budget
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So there's like, you know, you don't have to and I'm
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over it, which sucks.
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I think that car would have been properly.
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I mean, sorting that rear end thing, I think.
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Yeah, well, that's two.
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I'm going to say, by the way, when you have it
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on a lift, can you see what is like deeply
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ruined in the rear end of this thing?
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Because something's not right.
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But back to the challenges.
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I thought it was super fun how we like, we didn't
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We didn't like have like an idea.
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I had no idea what I was going to get.
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I just started immediately searching.
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I put in, I think I put in $3,500 and started
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there and started searching random shipboxes.
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But it's pretty cool how we arrived at two pretty
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capable cars that at the end of the day platform.
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Yeah, which is just absolutely wild.
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And we almost got there, man.
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We almost got there.
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But if it all had worked out, if it all panned out,
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I think they would have been comparable-ish on the rally.
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And it would have been two cool cars.
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They didn't stand out like, it wasn't like we showed up
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with like a 1999 Chevy Malibu, right?
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We showed up with enthusiast-focused machines,
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which is super hard to do at that price point, you know?
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Now, what if it was a Malibu SS?
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Which I don't think was available in 99.
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Yeah, that was the gen after.
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No, it was, God, just to like talk future and not past,
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which is what we originally drummed this up as.
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I know before we had talked about, you know,
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like a camper van or something, like, I don't know.
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There's some fun stuff to do.
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I like the thought of like do another rally,
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whether it's DWA or Breakfast Club,
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which is a little less intense or whatever, you know,
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that gambler, I don't know.
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Decisively more intense.
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I like the thought of like, yeah, $3,500 budget,
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$3,500 budget again, but it has to be carburated
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or it has to be, you know, pre-smog or it has to be-
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Or under four cylinders.
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It's like something, yeah.
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Can it be because of a misfire?
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Yeah, you just like, yeah, I removed a piston.
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I don't know, but like, I think, yeah,
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there's a lot of fun and stuff like that is fun
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and I have a good time doing it.
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I think we need to complete that circle,
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though I think we do need to get both our cars operational
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and take them out and do like a little video.
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We could do it for the pod.
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That'd be kind of cool to do
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because they do deserve to face off
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as it was a challenge that was never completed.
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I think we have to get them there.
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Yeah, I think, I think no matter what,
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I mean, like, what do you, what do you predict?
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Like, I mean, yours is certainly faster.
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Mine is certainly lighter.
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Then it's going to come down to what?
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Like, mine probably got like a tighter chassis.
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Yours is certainly more comfortable
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unless you open up the exhaust with the button.
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Mine was surprisingly aggressive in the canyons
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with the handling mods I did though.
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It turned out pretty good.
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We'd probably look at the intangibles
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and all that fun stuff.
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But yeah, it's kind of just, I don't know, man.
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It's, they need, there needs to be a closure
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if you will to that relationship.
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No, I think you're right.
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And I just wonder, yeah, what's, you know,
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it just, we could put it to the vote.
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You know what would be fun?
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My car might be a little bit too rough
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around the edges, cosmetically, to auction.
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Although I could probably grease the skids
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with my former employer enough to be like,
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hey, this is going to be silly.
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Like, throw me a bone and like, yeah,
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this car is going to sell for four grand.
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But like, let's have fun.
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And how fun would it be if like,
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if we were able to like put it together
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where they both closed on the same day
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and we have like a live, no reserve auction party
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should just see what they do, right?
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Like maybe, you know,
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that could be the competition that like,
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you don't think we cannibalize each other's potential buyers
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because they're too cheap shit boxes.
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No, no, not at all.
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Certainly it would be like, I think,
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I don't think there's any cross-shopping
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between a faded bright orange Ford Focus
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and a, you know, an all-wheel drive
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turbocharged wagon in gray.
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Like I don't, I don't know.
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I don't think those are the same buyer.
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Blue, by the way, it's Barron's blue.
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Thank you very much.
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No, it'd be interesting.
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Even if they don't run at the same time,
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we could also do a competition
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to see who like had the biggest profit margin
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and that's taken in the rally build,
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what we spent to get it ready for the rally.
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Oh, you will definitely win that.
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Your car is worth more than my car.
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I don't get that under all circumstances.
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Yeah, but I had to put more stuff afterwards, right?
23:34
I had to buy the rebuilt power steering pump
23:36
and all that kind of stuff.
23:37
Who knows, my car might not have a rear subframe in it.
23:39
It might have been like replaced with pasta or something.
23:42
I got some hot water on it when we drove down there.
23:44
That's what happened.
23:48
You al dente the rear end.
23:50
Well, have you seen them?
23:51
You know, like the, the, the, it was a meme
23:54
for like an hour and a half of like the,
23:56
using like, like dry Robin noodles.
24:02
Like a cabinet or a quarter panel
24:04
or, you know, a sucking chest wound.
24:10
We'll do that to the suspension and send it.
24:16
But I like that idea.
24:17
The next, the next, the next mystery challenge,
24:19
like three cylinders only.
24:25
Multiple carburetor only.
24:27
You bring up a good point because like in a cheap car
24:29
challenge, it shouldn't be just to how well,
24:32
If it's a rally or any kind of road rally
24:34
or whatever we're doing.
24:35
That's the, that's one phase, right?
24:37
The performance of the vehicle.
24:38
The second phase can be like, we could get it looked at,
24:41
like rated, like cosmetically, like a mini concourse.
24:45
They're all going to suck,
24:46
but just see who gets more points.
24:47
And then the last can be value who made the most profit
24:50
or who lost the least amount of money,
24:53
I guess is the right way to say it.
24:56
Like if we, when I unship box mine,
24:59
like what would we do?
25:01
Should we take it to like take it down to a morning
25:04
motors or take it to some kind of show,
25:06
park them next to each other and just have like one of those,
25:08
almost like a suggestion box.
25:11
And people could be like,
25:12
like which car is better?
25:15
Or which is cooler?
25:17
What would you rather own with no qualifiers?
25:21
Ooh, that's a general.
25:28
Right on the hood with a Sharpie,
25:29
with those like tally marks.
25:32
I like that one a lot.
25:33
We could even do it online.
25:34
We could put it on our Instagram
25:35
and see what people say.
25:44
The three three inches of unrefined
25:46
satisfaction of unrefined pole,
25:49
If it takes you more than four hours to
25:51
complete this pole,
25:52
consult a physician.
25:54
Consult the shell gas station I bought
25:56
the boner pills from.
26:01
Oh, you're not supposed to sound the Rhino 5000
26:05
But no, the there's,
26:07
there's a lot more that we can do and
26:11
going going back to stuff that we've
26:13
done over the last four years, like,
26:16
Like, have you done anything like
26:18
you've you've had your YouTube channel
26:20
longer than the last four years, but
26:22
like, what have you done there?
26:24
That's like, that's less directly
26:25
tied to the pod, but like,
26:27
have you had you've had some fun
26:29
with that over the last four years?
26:31
What's your favorite tidbit out of the
26:36
I don't mean it that way, but you're
26:38
you're talking about my podcast.
26:44
No, though, you're you're
26:46
Yeah, it's it's it's grown
26:48
a decent amount over the past four
26:51
Just really fun projects I've had
26:53
Like, obviously, like the Asuzu
26:54
Trooper was a really fun project.
26:56
You don't ever see one of those
26:58
getting restored and that came out
26:59
really, really too nice.
27:01
I do miss having a trooper in my
27:03
life because Frank, at the end of
27:04
the day, nothing was so rough when
27:06
Like, just poured oil
27:09
It didn't run right.
27:10
And when I was done with it,
27:11
actually looked pretty decent.
27:13
Yeah, you saw it, right?
27:16
Yeah, it came out really,
27:17
really fucking surprisingly good
27:18
cosmetically and ran well.
27:20
And it was like one of those
27:21
car or one of those trucks
27:22
where I could just fucking
27:23
I'm taking the troopers that I
27:24
go out there, pop the key in it
27:26
and just drive away.
27:28
I bet you if I just Google,
27:30
I bet if I Google it was a trooper
27:33
Yep, it's one of the first photos
27:34
like I'm going to say if I so many
27:36
of my project cars are like that,
27:37
you know, I did that the other
27:40
1988 is through trooper two.
27:42
And yep, on the right is the
27:44
very first October 19th, 2023.
27:46
You will not believe me if I told
27:48
you how I found this video.
27:49
And like somebody it's yeah,
27:51
it's an article about it.
27:53
There's a lot of stuff to
27:55
you know how that goes.
27:58
So such influencers and whatnot.
28:01
Yeah, they scrolled.
28:02
Oh, yeah, then the cars and bids
28:07
Yeah, just a lot of that's a fun
28:10
God, that had 26,000 views at auction.
28:12
Oh, the beauty is massive.
28:14
Hey, first off best photos ever of
28:16
a vehicle with the dirt bikes
28:17
jumping in the background a cool
28:19
like the rarity of that trooper
28:22
Everything came together for that
28:26
So that was that was a big one.
28:27
I'm trying to think what else I do.
28:28
I kind of slowed for life events
28:31
Yeah, I've had this for years, but
28:32
you know, ups and downs.
28:33
But I had some pretty good stuff
28:35
I can't even remember top of my
28:37
A lot of fun stuff.
28:38
I had that G20T, which was
28:40
Also auction that one out.
28:41
I had an accurate TSX with
28:42
ungodly high mileage that
28:44
looked like a 60,000 mile
28:47
Yeah, that thing was
28:49
So just cool stuff coming
28:51
through the garage, man.
28:52
I'm probably forgetting 30
28:56
The Bonneville was a blast.
29:04
My cars and bids auction page
29:06
is pretty pretty much my
29:09
It's like exactly the kind of
29:10
stupid stuff I meander with.
29:12
Meander around town with.
29:17
And despite the sweatshirt
29:18
I'm wearing today simply
29:20
No, we are not sponsored by
29:21
my former employer cars and
29:29
The place that shit came to me.
29:34
we'll happily get back on the
29:37
If you want to sponsor this
29:41
And if you turn this down
29:42
I'll burn this sweatshirt
29:51
shit to that end, right?
29:53
That was something I've done in
29:54
the last four years in the car
29:55
world, both got hired by and
29:59
Jammed it all in there.
30:01
The full experience.
30:06
no, no, no, no regerts
30:07
made a lot of really good
30:10
People I'm still tight with
30:11
people of the same,
30:12
still in communication,
30:13
both that aren't there
30:14
anymore and that are still
30:20
all the homies are included.
30:22
And it is interesting like,
30:26
when I met so many people in,
30:28
on the West coast in the car
30:30
community and just like car
30:31
community at large.
30:36
that's a big part of this is,
30:40
just the car community.
30:44
an absolutely micro community.
30:47
What do you call those like
30:48
where you have like a little
30:53
If I'm being honest,
30:55
It's not that good.
30:56
It's not that good.
30:57
I haven't seen it since I was,
30:59
I'm assuming it doesn't hold up.
31:01
I don't think it's aged
31:04
but there's like the tiny
31:05
little like micro ecosystem
31:06
things that you have in like
31:14
that's like the size of
31:18
But I do think that is like the
31:19
fun part of all of this is,
31:22
the cars are all really just a
31:24
thinly veiled excuse
31:26
for like-minded people to get
31:28
together and chill.
31:30
And I think this podcast is
31:31
just doubling down on that.
31:34
Whether it be listeners,
31:37
somebody who served every
31:38
episode or someone who,
31:39
this is the first episode they've
31:42
this little tiny micro biosphere
31:44
of a car community that,
31:49
we've cultivated it's not the
31:51
but that people have tolerated
31:53
and not found this pure poison,
31:54
which is hard to do.
31:59
That was all concluded, but.
32:00
No, it's a good point, man.
32:03
I think our approach to like
32:04
talking about cars is pretty,
32:07
Actually, it's super unique
32:08
because we're the only ones
32:13
the interest we have in cars,
32:14
the kind of things we talk
32:15
about the way we obviously
32:17
in intellectual manners,
32:18
branch off of topics,
32:20
like purely intellectual.
32:25
Pinky out premium bullshit.
32:28
I think that's kind of cool
32:31
Like it's kind of fun,
32:33
some of the things we do talk
32:35
we do put spotlights on things
32:36
that usually don't deserve them,
32:46
But you know what I'm saying?
32:49
it's fun doing this shit.
32:52
we honestly in a vacuum
32:53
would still talk about this
32:54
away from the public eye,
32:55
away from any kind of like
32:57
We still generally care
33:00
it's not an act if you,
33:02
you know us to any capacity,
33:04
Frank and myself both are
33:05
literally in love with the
33:11
it's probably very unhealthy,
33:13
it's something that we are.
33:18
why part of the unique
33:22
that we both happen to be in.
33:25
Which is even cars that like
33:27
I come across and I have
33:32
because of the Laws.
33:34
Like the Christ or crossfire for
33:38
not thinking it was going to be
33:42
Do I think it's great?
33:45
Do I think it's actually pretty good for what it is?
33:50
Like, yeah, like, and I miss, like, I'm kind of a sudden,
33:53
I would make a, I would make a terrible,
33:57
I don't know, David Davis or any like,
34:00
well-known, like grumpy car reviewer,
34:07
which are some of the best ones.
34:08
Yeah, I don't, I can find fault with cars and all that,
34:13
but at the end of the day, it's just like,
34:16
I find endearing shit with even terrible cars
34:18
to the point where like, I want my PT Cruiser turbo.
34:21
Ooh, maybe that's it.
34:23
What if, what if, no, hold on, hear me out, hear me out.
34:27
I know what you're gonna say.
34:30
What if we, for the next challenge of whatever,
34:34
for whatever the task will be,
34:37
it has to be, well, kind of.
34:40
I was gonna say, it has to be like,
34:44
like within our own little car podcast universe meme.
34:47
So it has to be like quad four powered
34:50
or it has to be designed by Brian Nesbit
34:54
or it has to be, it has to be like a,
34:57
like a GMJ body car.
35:01
You know, you know, you like your Skyhawk turbo,
35:04
anything GEO, right?
35:10
No, like it has to be, like if it's a thing,
35:13
if it's like something that's like meme heavy
35:15
in this stupid little podcast of ours after 200 episodes,
35:20
then it's allowed under the umbrella.
35:24
Cause yeah, how rad would it be if you,
35:26
you had a, you know, an old Achiva SDX
35:29
and I roll up with a PT Cruiser convertible manual
35:35
turbo wood panel conversion.
35:39
Brian Nesbit signature on the,
35:41
on the freaking passenger side airbag cover.
35:45
Yeah, tattooed onto my neck with a heart.
35:48
He held the marker with his mouth.
35:49
His, yeah, like his kiss mark.
35:51
Was it a quadriplegic?
35:52
Why is he holding it with his mouth?
35:55
That's, that's how we designed it actually.
35:57
Dude, first off, dude, if I,
35:59
if I stubble upon anything with a quad four to manual,
36:01
I would already own it.
36:02
So that's no challenge there.
36:04
I still got to get some quad four in my life.
36:09
That's kind of, I like that dude in our,
36:10
in our little, a little microcosm of APA podcast vehicles.
36:18
Yeah, I love it, dude.
36:19
Over four years we've built, we've built a,
36:22
we've built a mind state.
36:24
I don't know how to, what have we done?
36:27
Like a, yeah, like some kind of,
36:29
yeah, I don't know, like.
36:30
It's basically four years of brain rot.
36:32
Yeah, I was just about to say, like,
36:34
if, if six, seven was a,
36:40
I was going to go, I was going to go skibbity nesbit.
36:43
Skibbity, skibbity nesbit, yeah.
36:45
Oh, that's a stick.
36:46
Bright nesbit is just actually,
36:48
like that's what he's been doing since.
36:49
He's just making like Italian brain rot,
36:51
like Fortnite memes or whatever.
36:55
I, I get a little, like,
36:57
I get a little bit of this from my son
36:59
who, who turns nine imminently.
37:02
And yeah, there's some of the, the six, seven,
37:06
and the, he's like,
37:08
he's like asking Alexa to play like Italian brain rot rap.
37:12
And I'm like, God, God.
37:13
And I don't even, like, what's happening?
37:17
I'm so, I'm so goddamn old.
37:19
Yeah, you are dude.
37:20
You're an ancient speaking of aging.
37:26
Should we, should we, should we do the quiz thing?
37:29
Am I on the, am I on the hot seat?
37:30
You are on the hot seat.
37:34
I don't think I've read to you.
37:37
In my opinion, it's not super high on the difficulty level,
37:41
but I will let you decide that for me.
37:48
Did you try to get me with a skyhawk last, last time?
37:51
I did try to sky your hawk.
37:52
A couple weeks ago, yeah.
37:55
This is a, this is a horse of a different color,
37:57
but I will, I will let you explain
37:59
to the good people playing along at home
38:01
what the hell is going on.
38:02
And, and, and I will pull it on up.
38:05
Hey, four years later guys,
38:06
you should know the drill.
38:07
This is our automotive print ad quiz game show,
38:10
which is going to change names eventually, right?
38:12
Like Frank always counters, counters when we say
38:15
automotive print ad quiz game with aptly named
38:17
or yet to be named,
38:18
we're never going to change it guys.
38:19
Four years in this, there's nothing going to change
38:22
Episode 300, you don't know.
38:26
This is an automotive print ad
38:28
from the 80s, 90s, mid 2000s,
38:30
usually featured in a magazine
38:32
right before the Boner ad pages.
38:37
Frank's going to read the ad omitting anything
38:38
that clearly gives it away.
38:40
I get three guesses to figure out
38:41
what he's talking about.
38:43
I can use a lifeline after each one.
38:46
He never helps me out.
38:47
He's actually my arch nemesis when we play this game
38:52
So 10 minutes on the board.
38:54
Frank, roll that beautiful bean footage.
38:59
Okay, let me paint a picture here.
39:01
This one's short on words.
39:04
It's a one page advertisement.
39:08
The top, boy, 85% is an image of the vehicle.
39:14
You don't even see the full thing.
39:16
You see like, I don't know, 80% of it.
39:20
It's in what looks like a circus ring.
39:24
There's like lights and it's on dirt
39:27
and it's playing tug of war with a,
39:33
I can't tell if it's supposed to be one individual
39:37
but like in like four frames.
39:42
Like pulling it or if it's four
39:45
seemingly identical appearing individuals
39:48
playing tug of war with it, bald headed,
39:51
white guy with a goat tee
39:55
and silver pants and it's silver painted torso and arms.
40:06
Just like under the lights, under the big top perhaps
40:09
playing tug of war with the vehicle.
40:10
Either way, like a vehicle that can't pull one man
40:13
nor four man is pretty sad.
40:16
But I'm interested.
40:17
Yeah, well, they're struggling.
40:18
So it seems like they're losing.
40:23
Above it, it says the new blank in pretty small writing
40:28
and then below it, it says priced from 32,000 045
40:36
or with four-wheel drive 33,000 445.
40:41
So you gotta pay an extra $1,400 for that four-wheel drive
40:45
or WD and then we've got a splash of type copy.
40:51
Introducing the remarkably powerful new blank.
40:56
Stronger than the average beast.
40:58
Thanks to a mighty 220 horsepower V6 with blank.
41:05
I'm blanking that out.
41:06
I might give it to you a hint in a bit.
41:09
So 220 horsepower V6 with blank
41:12
an impressive 222 pound feet of torque
41:15
available full-time four-wheel drive,
41:18
asterisk asterisk, 3500 pounds of towing capacity.
41:23
After all, who couldn't use a little more pole?
41:27
The new blank, not just another SUV.
41:30
It's like no other vehicle on earth.
41:35
Then at the bottom, it says MSRP includes
41:37
destination charge, price includes taxes
41:40
and license $220 roof rack and other options
41:46
Front-wheel drive also available.
41:48
See your blank dealer for a required digital equipment.
41:54
Blank, a division of blank.
41:57
Blank reminds you to wear your seat belt,
41:58
secure children in the rear seat
42:01
and obey all speed limits.
42:02
For more information, go to our website
42:05
or you can call us at 1-800-872-539.
42:11
I think that's a six.
42:13
I knew that number.
42:14
I know, that's why you gotta read it.
42:16
Cause I know, I know, I know, you know,
42:18
and you know, I know, you know.
42:25
That's what I got for you, dog.
42:30
The strength of four men.
42:32
V6, all-wheel drive option
42:34
also could be had in front-wheel drive.
42:37
So we're not talking about a real truck here.
42:42
220 pound feet of torque.
42:44
Oh, was it 200 horsepower or 220?
42:46
220 horsepower, 222 pound feet of torque.
42:50
Not jumping up the page, definitely not truck base.
42:53
This is more of a crossover kind of thing.
42:57
The fact there's a website and the price point.
43:02
Oh yeah, the price was,
43:04
that's what I originally thought.
43:05
I'm like, this is 80s and 90s.
43:06
This is a fucking luxury.
43:08
Vehicle, yeah, 30 something thousand then, oof.
43:15
because displacement usually helps us with the engines.
43:20
Front-wheel drive, could be a wheel drive.
43:25
Truck-y-ish, but it's like a crossover SUV.
43:31
I'm trying to think what's a front-wheel drive V6.
43:34
I mean, that could be a lot, right?
43:39
Could it be a Saturn?
43:43
Could it be a Saturn?
43:45
It reads like a domestic.
43:48
Because of the circus.
43:50
Yep, well documented that circuses only exist
43:54
in the United States, we know that.
44:00
That horsepower, that 220 is pretty beefy for a V6.
44:03
I mean, that's standard for early 2000s.
44:09
Fuck, let's just take a stab.
44:11
Let's go, this is a
44:16
2000 and two Saturn view.
44:25
This is not a 2002 Saturn view.
44:33
I feel like low to mid-30s would be a pretty optioned
44:37
I was almost leaning towards the red line price.
44:41
But you get the 3.5 Honda V6.
44:43
I will give you the biggest hint in here,
44:48
which is what I blanked out before, okay?
44:51
Which is stronger than the average beast
44:54
thanks to a mighty 220 horsepower V6 with VVTi,
45:00
an impressive 220 horsepower,
45:02
or sorry, 220 pound feet of torque.
45:06
It comes equipped with VVTi.
45:08
VVTi, so the other thing is too,
45:09
I kind of, I looked into this too much.
45:11
You said not of this world, I think,
45:13
in the ad at one point, so I thought Saturn,
45:15
not of this world, come on.
45:16
Yeah, yep, yep, yep.
45:18
Cool, VVTi, Toyota products.
45:23
Potentially Psyon, but I can't remember anything Psyon
45:25
that would even, they stuck a V6 into an XB.
45:27
Okay, that'd be kind of cool.
45:29
So V6, the CRV, I don't think had a V6
45:34
during this period, I don't know.
45:35
Also famously not a Toyota.
45:40
I'm sorry, the RAV4.
45:42
Sorry, did they have a V6 RAV4?
45:45
They might have, I'm trying to think.
45:48
Oh, at some point in time they did.
45:51
I think I know what this could be.
45:53
This is gonna be, let me just go through the list.
45:57
Let me mentally lay it out before I blow my second wad.
46:01
CRV, we got Highlander,
46:04
thinking of Unibody Toyota offerings.
46:07
Sequoia's too big, also a body on frame,
46:10
that's definitely a truck
46:11
that wouldn't come in front with a drive.
46:14
CRV or Highlander's all matte.
46:17
God damn it, Bobby.
46:20
Let's go 2004 Toyota Highlander.
46:28
A 2004 Toyota Highlander.
46:42
What other hint can I give you?
46:45
I need some meat and potatoes with this.
46:47
I'll give you, I will read you something
46:49
that I've already said before.
46:51
Wonderful, thank you for digging deep on my third guess.
46:58
weight limits, other details.
47:01
Blank, a division of blank motor sales.
47:09
Does that help you?
47:17
I can give you the tagline for the manufacturer.
47:21
I don't, but I just don't know.
47:25
Unless I'm missing an off brand of Toyota
47:27
in this period, it's definitely not Lexus.
47:33
That's not a big hint, Frank.
47:34
That was a horrible hint on my last guess.
47:39
Front wheel drive, all wheel drive option.
47:41
VVTI, so it's Toyota or Scion.
47:44
220 horsepower V6, VVTI.
47:47
Don't think Scion ever made anything
47:50
that wasn't a four cylinder.
47:51
They'd never made a V6, right?
47:54
But a offshoot of, it can't be Lexus.
48:00
Lexus wouldn't have been introducing themselves
48:01
like an offshoot of Toyota at the time.
48:04
No, to be clear, that was in the fine print below.
48:10
So that part there, that was part of the fine print.
48:13
That was not a key thing.
48:14
That was part, along with the MSRP includes destination
48:17
charge, price includes charge, call 1-800,
48:21
see your blank dealer, additional equipment.
48:25
Wear your seatbelt, don't beat your children.
48:28
What was the exact wording of that statement again?
48:31
It's an offshoot, or what did you say exactly?
48:37
Copyright, the year, blank.
48:40
A division of blank motor sales,
48:42
United States Incorporated.
48:44
Blank reminds you to wear your seatbelt,
48:46
secure your children and rear seat,
48:48
and occupy all speed.
48:49
Loss for more information, visit our website,
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www.blank.com or call 1-800-USA-BLANK.
48:59
It could be something with a Toyota motors,
49:01
maybe how I'm interpreting your hint, I don't know.
49:06
I'll just read that.
49:07
A division of Toyota motor sales, United States.
49:12
And then the entire top type copy,
49:13
because it's so small.
49:15
Introducing the remarkably powerful new blank,
49:18
stronger than the average beast,
49:19
thanks to a mighty 220 horsepower V6 with VVTi,
49:23
an impressive 222 pound-feet of torque,
49:26
available full-time four-wheel drive,
49:28
3,500 pounds of tow capacity.
49:30
After all, who couldn't use a little more pull?
49:33
The new blank, it's not just another SUV,
49:36
it's like no other vehicle on earth.
49:40
And then blank, and then it has the tagline
49:43
of the manufacturer.
49:44
I don't think we get there this week, man.
49:48
I'll give you the tagline of the manufacturer.
49:49
Blank, the relentless pursuit of perfection.
49:55
Nope, nope, not doing it for you, okay.
50:00
So still, front wheel drive.
50:02
I don't think this is a truck.
50:04
VVTi's clearly Toyota, but we're not talking about Toyota.
50:11
The relentless pursuit of perfection.
50:14
Yeah, but why, if it is Lexus,
50:16
why would it read like that?
50:19
It's an all-new, it's an all-new whatever.
50:21
They're trying to say the all-new front wheel driver,
50:25
all-wheel drive, 220 horsepower, V6 powered VVTi,
50:29
whatever with 3,500 tow capacity is an SUV
50:32
that can be used for good things.
50:34
This does not read like a Lexus ad.
50:36
Let's be 100% sure on that.
50:39
Is this the first original bubble butt
50:41
that came with silver metallic tinted windows?
50:45
Is this the original RX and this would be,
50:47
oh boy, oh, I wanna say O3 or O4.
50:53
O3, O3, 2003 Lexus, RX.
50:56
And it would be a 300?
51:00
You're gonna get half credit here.
51:04
You're gonna get half credit because the O4,
51:07
O3, O4, RX is the second generation.
51:12
So this is the 1998 Lexus RX 300.
51:17
It read more modern than that one.
51:19
Lexus usually isn't either.
51:21
Go had a cassette deck in it, I'm sure.
51:22
Let me send you a 100% it did.
51:27
I don't think you can option the first gen
51:29
maybe at the end run without a cassette deck.
51:32
I think it was just, that was just part of the deal.
51:35
I'm gonna send you-
51:36
The original bubble butt.
51:39
You had, you described the car correctly.
51:43
Does not read Lexus.
51:44
But the year is the second gen was,
51:49
O3 or O4 was the first gen, the first year of the second gen.
51:54
Was it an RX 330 or the 400H?
51:59
But yes, this is the original.
52:00
Often years got the right one.
52:03
Yep, yep, a bubble butt.
52:04
But they almost always had that silver kind of metallic-
52:08
Especially the early ones.
52:09
You have this, and then you have the,
52:11
pretty much the original offering
52:13
of the quote unquote, Altezza taillights.
52:17
Those came with, although those were more of a,
52:18
I believe the early, the first couple of years,
52:20
it was like a red, it wasn't a chrome inner light
52:26
Dude, that leads, that reads nothing like a Lexus ad.
52:30
I know you don't expect circus freaks
52:32
to be playing tug of war with us.
52:33
No, no, I wanted wine glasses.
52:36
I wanted more about the client performance.
52:40
You see, I thought giving away the VVTI was too much
52:43
because in my head, I was just like,
52:45
SUV V6 VVTI in this era, like that's kind of,
52:51
I mean, the first gen Highlander was right there,
52:55
but that was a little bit more power.
52:57
That was the 3.3 liter Toyota,
53:02
I don't, I can't think of a Toyota
53:03
because the RAV4 didn't get it until the third gen.
53:07
I want to say a Saturn Redline close spec wise
53:10
to those numbers too.
53:13
Could be, because I thought the Redline was a 3.5.
53:16
Or it was, but the horsepower ratings.
53:20
Oh yeah, you're right.
53:24
But it didn't say the displacement.
53:25
It was just 220 horsepower of VVTI,
53:28
but I didn't give you VVTI till.
53:30
Yeah, which actually kind of,
53:32
it threw me off a little bit.
53:37
Yes, yes, we fingered it out.
53:39
Relentless, you don't, oh man.
53:41
You see, I would have thought you would have had
53:42
the relentless pursuit of perfection tattooed
53:44
on the tab or something.
53:46
I was so out of thinking about Lexus for this one.
53:50
Did not, I mean, they changed their tune.
53:52
I mean, that's definitely a far cry
53:54
removed from early Lexus, right?
53:57
With the LS and their early offerings.
53:59
And now it's even more about like customer service,
54:02
is that still their tagline?
54:04
The relentless pursuit of perfection?
54:06
It does sound familiar.
54:08
I think it's the only one they've had.
54:10
They say that, yeah.
54:19
Would you call that a slogan?
54:22
They're jingle, balls.
54:25
I think it's still the same.
54:26
Oh, the pursuit of perfection
54:29
is what I launched with in 89.
54:32
And then apparently 90 to 99,
54:35
it was the relentless pursuit of perfection.
54:38
And then I guess maybe there wasn't one,
54:41
but then it became experience amazing.
54:44
And now I guess it's standard of amazing.
54:47
Never heard that, but okay.
54:48
No, I want my perfection to be relentless in pursuit.
54:52
I mean, that was a stumble fest.
54:54
It definitely didn't read like Lexus,
54:55
but we got there, man.
54:56
I did appreciate it.
54:58
We'll do an unenthusiastic make it rain.
55:05
The show, what you should do
55:06
is you should just load it with one CVS receipt.
55:08
So it just keeps shooting out
55:10
in one unbroken stream for like 35 minutes.
55:13
And now I shoot my webs.
55:15
Yeah, very similar.
55:16
Yeah, just an absolute unbroken stream.
55:18
It really smells like poor strippers in here right now.
55:23
Impoverished adult workers.
55:28
Speaking of body odor and under compensated sex workers,
55:34
have you been sex workers or dancers?
55:42
I think we were talking about it last time a little bit
55:46
this, that whole speedometer thing
55:49
with the gauge cluster eating it has been,
55:51
it's just a goddamn nightmare, man.
55:56
So first off, these vehicles,
55:58
if you start getting into the weeds of the stuff,
56:01
there are two different engines,
56:02
eight valve, 16 valve,
56:03
the oil wheel drive, front wheel drive,
56:05
and they changed gauge clusters, instrumentation,
56:08
the electrical hookups,
56:10
no less than eight times over the run of this vehicle.
56:13
So when you buy a replacement gauge cluster folks,
56:15
look on the back and count all the pins
56:18
because the connectors will look the same,
56:22
Trying to find one of these for the eight valve,
56:24
two wheel drive from 95 is really impossible.
56:27
So I was able to finally source one
56:29
and that's the kind of research that's really hard, right?
56:31
Cause eBay motors, I love it, you love it.
56:34
We've got a record of saying this.
56:36
It's not without its pitfalls.
56:37
It's not without its lack of,
56:40
or it's users lack of effort.
56:43
Like a lot of these junk arts aren't here to answer
56:44
like 20 questions or really like,
56:46
yeah, it's on a shelf in the back
56:48
and it's been sitting there for eight months.
56:50
You know, I don't know, man.
56:53
Dude, I looked at one online
56:54
and this is like the biggest,
56:55
this is what I'm talking about.
56:57
You know how these 90s cars had like printed circuit boards,
57:01
the little paper sheets that kind of go over?
57:03
So where the actual plugs go, this one had it cut out.
57:07
Like they forcibly removed the plug
57:08
by cutting out around it
57:10
and the connectors weren't there.
57:11
So I'm like, I asked the guy, I'm like, hey, what's going,
57:13
is that like an optical illusion?
57:14
Both the plugs look like, you know,
57:16
and he's like, no, they're there.
57:18
They're just tucked out of the way.
57:21
You kind of can't, but okay.
57:22
I'll send you a photo later.
57:23
And I'm like, okay.
57:24
And I, I propped him the next day
57:26
after he of course didn't send the photo.
57:27
I'm like, Hey, what's going on?
57:28
He's like, yeah, it looks like
57:29
someone took a razor blade around it.
57:30
I'm like, well, that will never work.
57:31
Yeah. You might as well throw that into a garbage can.
57:33
Yeah. And, but to tell you the truth,
57:35
it was rated the lip of where it goes in easily.
57:38
If I didn't zoom in on the photos
57:39
could have purchased it, right?
57:41
And it was like in mint condition.
57:42
He's like, yeah. Oh yeah.
57:43
That's definitely an issue.
57:44
I'm like, that's a big issue, dude.
57:47
It's still for sale, by the way.
57:48
He didn't take it down.
57:49
But someone's going to buy that without knowing.
57:52
And I just, you know, that sucks.
57:54
And that's like kind of a little rant there.
57:56
But when you're like doing your online buying
57:58
for these things, a lot of these,
57:59
like especially these junkards
58:00
are just trying to get rid of this inventory
58:02
that's sitting on a shelf and you got to look guys.
58:05
You got to, if you have questions, don't just buy it
58:07
because there's a lot of these used parts.
58:09
There's no return policy and they're not cheap.
58:12
It's like a hundred and something bucks.
58:13
And you could just have another paperweight.
58:14
You know, I have learned
58:15
and I've never actually utilized it,
58:17
but eBay has like made it,
58:21
and this is not me plugging eBay,
58:23
but there's a lot more buyer protections now
58:26
where even if like in all of the fine print
58:28
and everything in the auction, it's like, you know,
58:32
do not accept returns.
58:33
Like no matter what, like, like, you know,
58:36
go take a dick publicly if you try,
58:39
want to return this, like, yep.
58:40
How would, no matter how aggressive they are,
58:43
if you, you can just simply open up a return through eBay
58:47
and just click like item not as described
58:50
and they have to take it back.
58:54
And even if the person's like, no, kick rocks,
58:57
I'm not sending you like a label,
59:00
then you keep it and eBay will send you the money back.
59:04
So if the next guy buys this cluster,
59:07
so long as it's within 30 days,
59:09
so if the next guy buys a cluster
59:10
from Captain Idiot here who's keeping that auction up
59:13
and they actually open the box within 30 days
59:15
and realize that it's not gonna work,
59:17
that they can get the money back, which is nice.
59:20
It's still unfortunately a pain in the dick
59:21
to even, because you're buying that part
59:23
because there's not many available.
59:24
Yeah, no, it still sucks.
59:26
You're waiting to complete your project
59:27
and then you get the part that's clearly damaged, right?
59:31
It's just, it's a bad experience,
59:32
but you gotta, it's due diligence
59:34
when you're looking at a part like that,
59:35
you have to understand that.
59:36
And then plus shipping, right?
59:37
eBay is like a week to two weeks sometimes,
59:39
depending on where it's coming from.
59:40
You could be like waiting all this time
59:42
for something to show up that's clearly damaged.
59:44
But when I saw that dude, I was just like, no, God damn way.
59:46
And I asked, I specifically was like,
59:48
hey, it looks like it's been cut out.
59:50
No, it's tucked in there.
59:51
I'm like, how about you just look at the photo
59:53
and get back to me, you know?
59:55
So that was unfortunate.
59:56
But I got the new gauge cluster, everything like that.
59:58
I knew, it's pedometer cables.
00:01
So hopefully we're good to go there.
00:02
I do, before I wanna install it,
00:04
I do wanna find a odometer specialist
00:07
that can set the mileage correctly.
00:09
Yep, cause I'm a big advocate of that.
00:11
I think it detracts if it's off.
00:12
So that's the next big thing.
00:14
I'm assuming the cluster you got is over miles.
00:17
So I wanna like roll it back,
00:18
which is always a little easier conversation to have.
00:23
Versus like me trying to like be shady
00:25
and be like, hey, put it at like 10,000.
00:27
I got the old cluster for comparison and everything.
00:29
And I have all the car facts
00:31
so I can document everything
00:32
while I'm setting it to a certain number.
00:34
But the fact is like it's, it gets pretty dicey.
00:37
We know how it is with clusters.
00:39
Yeah, it's clusterfuck if you will.
00:40
It's a fucking seriously clusterfuck-y.
00:43
But yeah, man, how about you?
00:44
Any time for wrenching?
00:48
Vehicles progressing?
00:52
I put a new battery in the Suburban.
00:56
What I did do was...
01:01
So if you remember, you tuned in last week.
01:06
I had drug home and other stray.
01:11
In the form of a 1989 Volvo 740 Turbo sedan.
01:19
I might have a buyer for it already.
01:24
Kind of by accident.
01:25
So what I've done since then is like, yeah, I bought it
01:28
but I hadn't taken possession of it or anything.
01:31
So I put a battery in it.
01:35
I let it just idle up to temp
01:37
and then I just took it to get smocked.
01:39
Didn't really drive it, just whatever.
01:44
It didn't just pass.
01:47
You could have just like lived huffing the exhaust.
01:51
Like that's how clean it was.
01:52
It blew unrealistic numbers out of the tailpipe.
01:56
That's how good this thing runs.
01:57
It purified the local air.
01:58
It did, yeah, like everything.
02:00
Like carbon zero measured.
02:06
One or two parts per million at like 15 and 25.
02:10
Knox one part at 15 miles an hour, three at 25.
02:14
And I think average is like 70 and 90
02:18
and max is 300 each or whatever.
02:20
And it was like single digits on everything.
02:21
It was just absolutely perfect.
02:26
So this morning we're recording on a Sunday
02:28
which we don't normally do but we are today.
02:34
It's easy when the 49ers play on a Sunday
02:35
or on a Monday night.
02:37
That's not that I'm wed to their schedule.
02:40
But the, by the way, when we get off our ass
02:43
and have a Patreon, maybe we'll have to talk sports.
02:48
You can talk about, I don't know.
02:49
You're Bruins fan, right?
02:51
And the unstoppable Patriots.
02:52
10 game winning streak.
02:55
You Mr. Drake May over here.
02:56
You getting a Drake May tat?
02:59
That'll be the reveal.
03:01
Yeah, full butt cheeks spread tattoo reveal
03:04
if you pay to the Patreon that doesn't exist yet.
03:07
You can always see his ears on my butt cheeks
03:09
until you spread it and then his whole face is in there.
03:12
Yeah, it's like an absolutely like the most grotesque mad
03:19
Actually just figuring mad.
03:21
I knew where you were going.
03:27
Anyways, I was just thinking like
03:30
if you tuck things back like you could add to like an arm
03:33
like throwing a pair of footballs or something.
03:35
Anyways, hello Bill.
03:36
Exactly, yeah, yeah.
03:38
Would you draft me?
03:41
Exactly, I draft me so fucking hard.
03:45
OK, Drake May aside.
03:48
OK, so today it's a Sunday.
03:49
Drake May, I don't know.
03:52
I don't know how he's performed.
03:54
Again, he got that row, baby.
03:59
The nobody cares about the Patriots.
04:02
The I went to the Sundays on Solano local car,
04:10
cars and coffee here if if you're here in the Bay Area
04:15
and or homies with the Vault Auto Club gang
04:20
and something they put on.
04:21
So Solano in Albin Solano Avenue, I think wrote.
04:25
Story checks out Boulevard.
04:27
In in Albany at Signal Coffee.
04:32
Third Sunday of every month.
04:34
Anyways, I took the $1,000 Volvo out there.
04:36
I can't really driven it like this is an excuse to go drive it
04:43
The dome light like wiggles half falls down occasionally.
04:47
You can like push it back up.
04:54
One of the front or rear is a little intermittent.
04:56
Oh, otherwise great.
04:59
AC is not blowing cold.
05:03
On my way out was like just talking with I think it was Joe,
05:07
who's one of the founders there at Vault.
05:10
And you know, I basically had mentioned like I don't need this car.
05:15
I actively need to get rid of it.
05:17
I basically just saved it from the wrecker.
05:20
You know, I'm in it.
05:24
You know, 1,300 bucks, 1,500 bucks, depending on the math
05:27
between $1,000 for the car registration,
05:30
paid to get a smog, a battery, right?
05:33
Somewhere between 1,300 and 1,500,
05:34
depending on who's asking.
05:38
And the IRS, it's 13.
05:43
Anyway, some guy was just like 740.
05:46
Like you're looking to get rid of a car.
05:48
I was like, you know, 740 turbo.
05:50
He's like, I have a 740 turbo 24 hour
05:54
He's like, I didn't think I'd be in the Volvo's.
05:56
I'm now into Volvo's.
05:58
I was like, the car's here.
05:59
I want to look at it.
05:59
He's like, absolutely.
06:00
So we went, like I just tossed in the keys.
06:02
I was like, let's go.
06:03
So we drove it around the block.
06:04
He's like, yeah, I live like two blocks away from here.
06:06
I just walked down on a whim.
06:09
And he's like texting one of his lemon's guys.
06:12
He's like, yeah, he's like, we started talking
06:14
and I thought like this would be a good bonus parts
06:17
car for our lemon's car.
06:18
He's like, this car's too nice.
06:19
Like I can't, I can't chop this car up.
06:21
I was like, I know that's why I bought it.
06:24
So we discuss it and he's like texting.
06:28
He's like, yeah, I was like, I'm not a huge rush to sell it.
06:31
I don't even have the title yet.
06:33
I've registered in my name like three days ago.
06:36
So like, you know, I was just going to do something
06:39
with it once the title arrives in like four weeks.
06:43
But if you want to buy it before that and just do
06:45
a paperless title transfer, like, you know,
06:47
I was going to put it up for like $3,200
06:50
and let people beat me up to like 2,500.
06:52
But if you wanted it to grand and I just walk away
06:56
after less than a week, maybe he's like,
06:59
I might be calling you this afternoon.
07:00
So we exchanged my numbers, haven't heard back from him.
07:02
I'll probably, you know, I told him,
07:04
yeah, let's talk this week.
07:05
And yeah, if I can make whatever 500, 600, $700.
07:11
No effort and keep the car on the road.
07:14
Yeah, that's the big thing.
07:16
Well, I saved it until all of a sudden like
07:18
the motor pops on the lemon's car
07:19
and then maybe it's unsaved.
07:20
But yeah, well, still, it lives on.
07:23
Yeah, not exactly turning wrenches,
07:25
but that's progress, I suppose.
07:29
Cool. Well, on that note, I say we sign off four years, guys.
07:34
We couldn't have done it without you.
07:37
I mean, it could have, but it'd be less fun.
07:39
Yeah, it literally all five of you were well appreciated.
07:42
But seriously, it's been a blast.
07:44
We look forward to at least four years more
07:46
of this bullshit and dodging sponsorship.
07:49
People are running at us, just truckloads of money
07:51
being offered to be dumped in our front yards.
07:53
We turn it down, we're not sell-outs, basically,
07:57
is what I'm trying to tell you.
07:58
Yeah, yeah, we're not doing reads for, God,
08:01
what are it, like Nord VPN?
08:04
What are all the ones you always hear?
08:05
Not that I'm against it, per se.
08:08
No, we could do it.
08:10
If we're gonna sell out. Better help.
08:11
Yeah, if we're gonna sell out,
08:12
it's gonna be like shady shit
08:14
that we talked about, like gas station boner pills.
08:16
Yeah, gas station boner pills.
08:19
God, some like weird, like gold recycling scheme
08:25
or some like, are NFT still a thing?
08:30
Some like really shady.
08:32
There'll be a thing again.
08:36
Yeah, this guy went right after Belarus.
08:41
Coming at you Belarus.
08:42
Out of all the Eastern European countries,
08:43
this guy and his Belarus.
08:46
We do appreciate everything, guys.
08:47
Again, I honestly think we wouldn't have done it
08:50
We appreciate the feedback, the following,
08:52
the conversations, whatever, watching YouTube.
08:56
We're almost to 100 subscribers on YouTube,
08:58
which is pretty wild for a podcast.
09:00
But we appreciate it, guys, APA podcast.
09:03
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09:04
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09:05
We need to put something about our rally cars.
09:07
We'll think of something like that
09:08
we talked about earlier.
09:09
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09:11
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09:13
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09:15
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09:16
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09:18
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09:21
Tracker content, Volvo content is coming out right now.
09:24
So check that out for your rescues,
09:26
restorations reviews, whatever the hell I do.
09:28
Frank, where can the good people
09:29
follow your social medias?
09:32
But maybe actually do.
09:35
That's going to be-
09:38
It's a land of contrast.
09:40
Yeah, no, the photographer's garage,
09:43
mostly on Instagram, a little bit on the YouTube.
09:47
Other places, not really, but mostly just do that.
09:51
And I did two quick closing thoughts.
09:55
One, first off, I looked real quick
09:58
while you were closing out
09:59
because I can view all of our listens,
10:02
like what countries they've come from.
10:05
We just lost Belarus, goddammit.
10:07
No, I'm looking, we've never had a listen from Belarus.
10:12
And to be fair, some of these might not have actually
10:15
be listens from those countries.
10:16
They might be some weird aberration
10:19
from a VPN listener somewhere.
10:21
They're using NordVPN.
10:24
And you can too if you sign up with our promo code.
10:26
Yeah, promo code Foreskin.
10:33
We have three listens from Oman.
10:36
We've got one Trinidad and Tobago.
10:43
Same with Bosnia and Herzgovina.
10:45
We got one from there.
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Bukini Faso, if you're Bukit Burkina.
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That would be Africa for my non-geography friends.
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On here, the state of Palestine, comma, the state of.
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We've got Jordan, Bulgaria, Kyrgyzstan, Senegal.
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We got some heavy hitters in Kazakhstan, is nice.
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So yeah, the other last bit, I just wanted to drop real quick
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before we go deeply over time and we're done.
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No, if you have crazy, terrible, absurd car stories, right?
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Something you did in your soared past in international waters.
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You know, you you you jump the Grand Canyon
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in your homebrew rocket car and live to tell the tale
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and nobody knows whatever.
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I want us to collect a bunch of these.
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And we'll read them.
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We'll we'll read them at the end of the pod at the end of the pod.
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I'd like it to be be a new thing.
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So we're going to collect them for a while.
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So we won't start reading them immediately.
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But just for now, until we have a better solution
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as we discussed last week, just send us a send us a note
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That's at APA podcast.
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And yeah, tell us some miserable things that you should.
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We can keep it anonymous, too.
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We're in fact, we will keep this anonymous.
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For a yeah, yeah, this should be this should be fun.
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Yes, exactly. Yeah.
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So just to piggyback off of that,
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don't just keep your past sorted.
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Keep sortedness in the current, friends.
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Well, with that, keep it alive, baby.
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As always, we'll catch in like a week.
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Love you. Bye. That's it. Later, Oman.