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In a world with entirely too many shows about cars, this is another Pointless Automotive Podcast.
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Welcome back to another Pointless Automotive Podcast, deep, not really, shallowly, into the
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Episode count that is.
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Thanks for joining us.
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Frank, how are you doing this evening?
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I am in my garage, which I normally am.
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I have a new addition, not car, but check this out.
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Check this shit out.
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For those along listening, that's our real deal foosball table.
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We told the nine-year-old that for his birthday that we can get him a foosball table.
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It's a real deal tornado, which if you're up on your foosball, that's the brand you get.
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So I got it used on Marketplace.
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It was like two grand new.
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I got it for 500 bucks.
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Maybe we can do like a, when we get really down the rabbit hole and develop this thing
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and we're doing like Twitch streams and shit, maybe you and I can play foos and
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Twitch stream and talk shit about golf or something.
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I'm absolutely horrible at it.
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We'll tune you up, dog.
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Yeah, I can't go anywhere but up from where I am.
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I'm doing well, man.
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Background today is doing historical video games, car related video games.
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You kind of can't beat this, the original OG Gran Turismo for PS Uno.
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That'll be adorning my background with classic games.
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That game's responsible for how many car addictions, especially folks of our age.
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Well, I mean, just think like massively impactful game.
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My thought is this, like nobody are, I mean, not nobody, but almost nobody
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are, is really into like importing European Fords and things like that.
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Like stuff from Europe that we never got.
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And just for that game, that's exactly how the JDM scene would be in the United States
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It'd be like, oh, some weird car that we never got, like whatever, don't care.
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But for video games of that era and Gran Turismo is absolutely the standard bearer for games
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that made JDM cars interesting and desirable and this like, this forbidden fruit.
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Except for a Toyota Viz, which is super fun and cool, but it's just the Yaris
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at the end of the day.
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You're not getting in the Viz Cup.
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That's the Viz, baby.
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But yeah, it's a good intro, man.
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It's all funny games.
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Until we take a look at the bull market.
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So you hit me up about this idea because God, it felt like a couple years ago, right?
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We looked at the Hagerty Bull Market report had to be like 24, maybe 23 or 24.
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I mean, mostly me does any semblance of homework for our own damn podcast.
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I can, let me, I can quickly scroll down, but it's been a while.
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I mean, it's, I think we skipped it's been two years since we talked about it.
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So yeah, this, they just put out literally just like what, a day ago, all day days.
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I think they pushed a video today.
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So I did catch the beginning of the video.
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They have a list and what we did last time was kind of parallel their list, which
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is a well researched looking at enthusiast cars gaining value or potential to gain value.
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Probably will gain value.
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Let's be honest, most of these cars, they have a pretty good list.
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And then our parallel is the budget store version, which we're really good at, Frank.
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We're really good at emulation, like affordable emulation of the real deal.
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And I presented, I think I came up with a pretty solid list and it's not just like,
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you know, here's a Corvette and you're like, just get a cobalt.
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I try to find, and that's not a bad, that's not a bad analog with a supercharged cobalt
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or turbocharged, but just try to find something that's kind of like relative and find some
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key points where they kind of match up and you can kind of get the logic sometimes.
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So the order I went in is the video order.
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So I don't know if yours is offset by that, but they started out with a pretty
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heavy hitting car, a Porsche Carrera GT.
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Oh, you know what's funny is because like I have, I didn't have an opportunity to
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watch the video yet.
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I watched the intro.
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Is that is that is that catch pole?
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Who's who's the who's the host?
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It's what's his name?
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British fella and Henry catch pole.
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It might be. Yeah, I don't know.
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I was going to watch it and I saw like there was a human form.
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I was like, I'm the presenter.
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And that's as far as I made it.
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Like I did not make it.
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And I looked at the I did read the article and the article ends with that car.
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So the article went in in a widely different way.
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I wonder if it's inverse.
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But yeah, I mean, we can start there, start off with the big guns.
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What do you I mean?
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I guess before we talk about the budget version thing and we got 11 cars
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to go through, so we're not going to spend 20 minutes on each car.
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But like, are you a career GT guy?
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I mean, if one was given to me, sure, my own money, probably, probably not.
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Yeah, I don't I don't think I I don't think I go for that
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because I think they're going, what are they trafficking?
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Like, I would assume like one and a half million ballpark.
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Oh, I think they're, um, are they that?
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I don't know. Let's let's consult the bull, the bull, the bull run in my head.
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I think they're like, I think they're one point five.
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Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
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This is in Drup, Drup, Drup.
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Yeah, yeah, about that one and one and a half.
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Unless you're like super number one condition is sure, which are like a special
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things, things you and I relate to really well.
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Number one condition, hypercars.
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Really easy. Let's talk about it.
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It's a rear mid-engine car.
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It's a real road drive.
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Nice, fun, revvy engine.
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Screaming out on the air.
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You're out in the air.
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I have a car that hits every one of those things I just said.
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Is it also a Porsche product?
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No. Oh, interesting.
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OK, it's it's it's a third gen Toyota MR2.
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And yeah, so a couple of things.
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It does actually hit all those things I spoke about.
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It does. It is mid-engine.
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We will drive high revving top down.
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It is high revving.
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It could have been.
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Yeah, I know they should have put a TZZ in it for what it is.
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It's like what is the red line on a seven?
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Seven. Yeah, whatever, dude, whatever.
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Fraction, we're talking like not even a drop of water in the ocean.
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Fraction of the price comparison here.
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But the thing is these have been down like insanely low,
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like for a very long time.
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And just now, I feel like they've been up like the last years.
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The past couple of years they've started to.
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So that's bull market, right?
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Like a car that's projected to go up.
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I don't see these going down.
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And I think you can find pretty clean ones still
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because they weren't ravaged.
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Yeah, like the SW20 turbos or even the MR2s before that, the AW11.
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I think these are pretty sound investments.
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If you want to get a nice, clean one, lower mileage one.
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But it does offer a lot of fun stuff for a Toyota badge product, right?
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Yeah, I mean, they're they're they're good.
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They're they're light, a lot of them.
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What's weird is like that might have the weirdest transmission.
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Toyota ever put in a car, at least a North American product,
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because it's it's like it's like an SMG transmission.
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It's just a simple auto like there's a manual, right?
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There's the. Yeah, you get the manual, right?
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But they also the the automatic wasn't an auto.
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It was an automated manual.
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Like really weird, which I think I can't think of another
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Toyota we got in North America with like an automated manual,
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SMG style transmission, other than what fucking LFA?
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Right, it's an LFA, essentially.
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Yeah, no, it's it's an interesting it's interesting choice.
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Interest. I like those cars.
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I for me, though, I've always felt they're they're a little overpriced.
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You think so? I think so.
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Because I don't think a good one, a good one is what, 15?
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No, no, I think that under 10 under 10 under 10.
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I guess the good thing on those is and to your point, you said a lot of them.
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They don't have a lot of miles on them and they were modified.
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They're not modified. They weren't.
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Yeah, they were like.
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Because at the time, right, we're talking early 2000s.
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You wanted the hot car.
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You got a whatever, right?
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You didn't necessarily buy the M R two.
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And so you maybe ended like a lot of those cars ended up in, you know,
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oh, I just retired for my accounting job.
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I'm going to get an M R two.
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And it says it's these 3,000 miles a year and it's well maintained.
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And now you can buy it with 80,000 miles on it.
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And it's in great shape.
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Yeah, for like eight grand.
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It's it's wild than that.
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I've been looking at these bad boys for a while.
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You get a rough one for six, dude.
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No joke, like a running and driving driver's car for six grand.
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So I think they're not kill or deal.
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We don't want to talk about M R two all day.
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But seriously, I think this is a slept on car.
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And I went a different.
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I just took the obvious answer on this one,
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which is at early nine, eight, six, you get an early nine, eight, six.
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And you're going to silver box, the interior, the ship box,
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one that I had basically, maybe less shitty.
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But you can get you can get you can get a good one for under 10 pretty easily.
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And as long as it's fairly healthy, you know, the early ones don't have
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less power, but you don't have the IMS issue.
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That's why the ninety eight to ninety nine's demand a premium.
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The IMS issue isn't it?
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I mean, they kind of what's funny is they kind of don't command a premium
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because I've been seeing it.
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I've been seeing it.
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Oh, it's it's got the smaller engine.
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It's only two hundred and whatever, two hundred and five horsepower, two hundred
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IMS, it's a known thing that now, man.
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Like you look in like a ninety ninety nine is priced above like a two thousand
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one or two thousand two. Yeah.
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It's wild. Get a good one for under 10 and just tell people.
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That actually would be really funny is just like deep adjit and just tell
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everyone it's a career GT, you know, put like a little like like
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dollar store hydraulic spoiler on the back and that's the only difference.
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Yeah, it's the same.
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OK, well, why don't we do this?
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So we don't like step on each other's dick as far as the orders.
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What's your unless you're into that sort of thing?
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Like what is yeah, what do you have next on the on the list?
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And I will serve up my answer to it.
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Whatever our 33 GTR.
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So this one was this one's interesting because it's that's like
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not an easy car to just dollar store replace.
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No, talk about Gran Turismo, too.
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Yeah, like what I don't know.
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I guess I don't want to ask this silly question.
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What do you think about an R33?
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Like they're cool, like they're they're very cool.
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I think they're aren't they mechanically very similar to an R34
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like versus a 32 like based on engineering.
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And I think they're closer to 34 than they are a 32.
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I lean towards the 32 myself.
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I mean, the 34 is the poster child, right?
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Like the one we love.
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But I think I kind of like the 32 a little more is just like a
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if I was going to motorsport it. Sure.
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I think if you're going to, yeah, if you're going to build a race car,
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I think if you want like the kind of fly on to the radar like
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even more, if you know, you know, addition, you go 33.
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God, it 30 really hard, pretty though.
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Really, really hard.
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Thirty fours are like the so the video game.
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But as far as like the dollar store version of a 33.
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We're talking like a 60, 70,000 car, right?
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I think I 30 threes are trafficking.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I almost have to I'm going to go with it and it's not.
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I don't love this comparison, but I'm going to I'm going to say
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an ST 185, some of the all track.
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Those are still they're hard to get cheap.
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Yeah, they're not super cheap for a good one.
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A good one is going to run you 20.
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I don't think that's overpriced.
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I'm not saying that's overpriced.
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I think and it's like not as like techno techno techno
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whiz kid, but like for me in my mind, as cool and as
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fast as an R 33 is compared to modern stuff, it's really not that fast.
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And so you have the reason you have an R 33 is yes, because it's all wheel drive
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and manual and turbocharged, but also because it very much is like a 90s
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And so the cheapest way to get that, I think is.
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And honestly, now that I'm thinking about it a little bit more.
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Maybe maybe something like an Evo three or maybe Evo four.
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So because now you're going to be right hand drive, you get the all wheel
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drive and the turbo and stuff like that.
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And the right hand drive actually scares off a lot of people.
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So if you get one with some miles, it's not like collector grade.
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You can get one or you can even get the all track GT four as it would be
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for for for JDM, you stay right hand drive and you just get that car.
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You can get one or you like or even like a GC eight.
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Any of those you can get a good one for 15 or less.
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I think you nailed it on your rethink.
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I put Evo eight or nine because it gets you pretty damn close with
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the drivetrain wizardry.
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You've got the AWC and yaw control and all that fun stuff.
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Power, very fucking similar in an eight and nine.
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Let's be brutally honest.
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Getting, getting pretty damn close all wheel drive.
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If you really want to go more budget and turn up the boost, you
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could get like a DSM or something.
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But I think I think an Evo gets you there.
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I think an Evo eight or nine.
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And I think the reason I said four is because it's also right hand drive
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JDM and they're cheaper because getting a USDM eight or nine is
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actually going to run you more money.
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Um, now I would rather have an eight or nine.
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Don't get me wrong.
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I think they're like mid twenties though.
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So it's still, still a huge budget.
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Like I think I think you get pretty good, pretty good four for under 20, I think.
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So I would, if it came down to which car do I prefer?
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I think I prefer the Evo fours and fives, which are very similar.
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Look into my opinion to the R 33.
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I think I'd rather have an Evo four or five.
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I love how they've always been my favorite cars.
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No, they're really cool.
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They're like, they like, so like to me, Evo one through three, we're
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a lot VR four owners, right?
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We've owned many of these are just an evolution of that.
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It's like the same, the engine is the same.
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It's the same six bolt.
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It has the turbo on the same side.
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Four and five are kind of different to me.
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The body kits are more extreme and then obviously six and seven, eight, nine
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kind of all kind of grouped together, even though it's how me
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Mackinen, wait, wait, wait, wait, you said what you said?
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What was after five?
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Six, seven, eight, nine.
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Six, seven, six, seven, sorry.
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No, other than eight year old.
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So yeah, I mean, nine year old, I'm sorry.
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I'm an nine year old boy father.
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Now he actually despises it so much.
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He like, he makes jokes about it.
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I'm like, he is the counterculture, but, uh, no, I think, I, I think
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the four and fives are like my favorite.
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Oh, they look so good, dude.
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Um, but yeah, yeah.
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For the classy fives are like classy, but with so over the top.
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Um, I like the stupidity.
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Um, no, I say Evo is the replacement for that R 33 and you're,
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that's a very capable car.
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And the other option is if you want to go like really dollar store,
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you just go like bug eye, but yeah, I was going to say that DSM too.
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I think can get you there.
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But what else are we cooking with?
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This one's a little weirder.
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Second gen Dodge Charger.
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They, they've kind of been a little pricey for a bit, to be honest.
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They didn't just spike.
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Um, yeah, I mean, they spiked in the early 2000s and then they've
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calmed down, um, and then they hop back up along with everything during COVID.
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Sure, but I think they're a good, ultimately, I think they're a pretty
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good buy, but you're talking to Mopar guy over here.
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Like, right, but also the, the price variance for second gen
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chargers is all over the map, dude.
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And you can have mostly original, you know, need some love, maybe like low 20s.
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Uh, mostly, I mean, that's gotta be like, needs a lot of like
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cosmetically challenged, gutted, interior, um, but you can go,
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you can go to the fucking moon and back, dude.
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Like a fully restored, like great condition, original body.
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Well, one of the six figures stupid.
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It's stupid real fast.
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I'm kind of, I think, let me shoot my shot first here.
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Cause you're definitely Mopar guy.
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So you're going to have a good one.
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What I came to the table with is a Plymouth Duster 340.
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And honestly, that's kind of, that's kind of in my mind.
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And I, I'm a duster guy.
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I'm a duster and demon guy.
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Like I love dusters.
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Um, 340 is a killer motor.
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Um, I mean, it was like the big block killer of its era.
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I think it's the most, the most impressive small block of the
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entire muscle car era.
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So are you saying I did okay there?
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Mopar daddy killed it.
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That's, that's really good.
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Because I, because, you know, a 340 duster, they still pull
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Yeah, but not even close to charge your money, dude.
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You can get like, I've seen runners and drivers
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that are decent for like 20.
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Um, it's a hell of a car.
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It's, it's, yeah, it's a lot smaller.
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It's a lot more, it was, I mean, it was the compact of its day.
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And why I think it's a pretty good analog to the charger is,
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you know, the 68 to 70 charger was ultimately a much sexier
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bodied version of a, a cornet.
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Which is what the first gen was.
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The first gen was you took a dodge cornet.
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You put a different grill on it.
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You made a fastback out of it for NASCAR purposes.
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Now you've got your, your special GT car thing.
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In this generation, 68 to 70 Coke bottle styling, that classic,
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I mean, it really kind of set the stage for just like a really
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sexy, intermediate was, was the size class.
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And that's what the duster was.
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Hey, let's get, let's take the dart and the valiant and let's just
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make a roundier sexier version of it.
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Like we did with the charger on the B body platform.
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And let's take our A body, the compact and we'll, we'll make a
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And so they look great.
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They look fantastic.
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You can get those high impact colors, you know, go mango or
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sassy grass green or any of those absolutely diabolically named.
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Mopar colors of its era.
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So yeah, that's a really good one.
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Um, I was, I was on the fence between that or simply just like a
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Corvette or Belvedere of, of the same era, which was, that was
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what the, the charger was based off of.
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It was also what the, um, road runner and super B were based off
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of, they were just a lower spec shit.
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And so you can just get, just get a Corvette with a three
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18 in it or, or, or even a fucking slant six and mob it around.
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If you're in it for just the look and if you want the muscle car
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thing, you get a, they get a 440 out of a motor home.
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I mean, yeah, like, yeah, these are so easy to just toss
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engines in no small gap here in California.
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World is your oyster.
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Do whatever you want.
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So buy something rot free.
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If it's got patina, great.
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We might as well do the, the next one here.
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Um, I don't have, I didn't think this one to you through, uh, Lincoln
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Continental Mark three.
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Um, yes, I don't think about this car or car.
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They're, they're on the details are what I love.
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I love the hand craftsmanship.
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Um, I, I think that is definitely mostly lost today.
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Some interiors try to get there, but exteriors.
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They're not designed the same way.
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Um, no, they can't, they can't be literally would lose so much money.
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Um, what do you have for a budget store version of this, this car,
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which is very pricey, by the way, if you find a fully restored or
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original in good condition, Lincoln, Mark, three, good Lord.
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These are, these are fetching some cash.
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I mean, they were, um, to borrow a phrase from Cadillac, chief
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competitor of theirs at the time.
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It was this was a quote unquote standard of the world type car where
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I mean, this was like no expense spared.
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This was a very expensive product to make.
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It was a very expensive product to buy.
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And I would say it was probably that high watermark for Lincoln as a brand.
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And so what I would, what I think is similar in ethos and size and
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presence in command, even of the same era is like a late fifties imperial.
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Enormous land yacht.
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Absolutely land yacht.
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Sedans are cheapest, but you can get a, you can get a two door, like a crown.
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And this was, this was.
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So you had Chrysler and then you had Imperial.
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It was its own brand technically.
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Um, it wasn't a Chrysler Imperial, just an Imperial and they're super overlooked.
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Not a huge per, um, they were wildly expensive.
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Um, and I mean, you can get a really dope one for like 14, 15, little patina.
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The world, the nicest one on the globe of like a 50, like a 56 Imperial,
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which is still pretty roundy, 57, they got more gaudy with more
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fins and stuff like that, which if we're into a great, but more akin to
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this classy roundier, get a 56 Imperial, 55 or 56 Imperial, not expensive.
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The nicest one ever on the planet is 25.
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Um, that's, that's what I'm going with.
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What are you, what are you thinking?
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You thinking, dude, I was, I know it's not really your wheelhouse.
23:27
Cadillacs, really where you got to go.
23:29
Uh, do you do something stupid, like a, a Fleetwood or an El Dorado?
23:33
Or do you just, uh, I think for the price, if you're trying to
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like chip the price down, you kind of get like, just maybe just a
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Coupe Deville, that's a little rough around the edges.
23:42
Yeah, it's, that's a tough one.
23:44
Um, just the preservation, right?
23:46
Like how many of these cars are left in the condition, you know,
23:49
that the, the folks are really looking for for these Mark threes.
23:51
These are just, these are cars that were never really driven too much
23:54
in most cases because they did rot away if they were exposed.
23:57
So, I mean, it's just, yeah, there's not a lot of competition for that one.
24:02
That's, that's when I would have to bow out of finding a dollar store
24:05
variant of, uh, that's one though.
24:07
I think it was a pretty easy one Corvette C six, zero six.
24:13
Is it, is it a car you own that you're replacing?
24:16
You could, I think the quickest and easiest replacement for the, the C
24:20
six, zero six is a C five, zero six, to be brutally honest.
24:24
I think you're taking a small step backwards in performance.
24:27
Cause those, those, especially after 2002, and then went to the
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four hundred and five horsepower or whatever the hell it was, uh, good
24:34
enough to put a badge on the front of the car, stating the horsepower.
24:37
Um, and the price they can be had at, I know they're not 15 K anymore.
24:41
They're you low twenties, like 25 or less, you can get a C five, zero
24:45
six, like most Corvettes will have low mileage, barely driven to like car shows
24:50
shined more than it was, you know, serviced for oil changes.
24:54
Um, but I think that's pretty fucking good.
24:58
Um, I think it is pretty good.
25:00
And yeah, it isn't a seven liter rip snorting V eight, but it's a good
25:05
little power plant, man.
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Yeah, a little little, but yeah, well displacement compared to the seven
25:10
leader, I mean, it's kind of, kind of small.
25:14
I mean, it's funny cause I had, I had two schools of thought on this.
25:17
One is, is I was just going to say the bait, just a base, like a 98.
25:24
Um, the three, 320, something like that right around there.
25:30
Right in that ballpark, I think so.
25:32
And like good number, I mean, the comparison is, is obvious, right?
25:37
They're both fucking Corvettes.
25:38
But if you wanted to do something not Corvette, you wanted to go a
25:41
little, a little, a little different.
25:43
Um, what about an 05 or 06 GTO?
25:51
Maybe still an LS and get a manual, a lot heavier, a lot heavier.
25:57
Um, but you know, same kind of ethos.
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I think those are kind of a good buy.
26:03
It's hard to find a good one.
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Like they got pretty well modified and, and yeah, because they were dirt
26:12
And so finding a good one might be tough, but like, what's the
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nicest one of those 28?
26:20
I think you can get a little bit of that.
26:21
Let's see what you did there.
26:24
What else is on this here list, sir?
26:26
Uh, we have a truck, a Chevy 454 SS.
26:32
Now we've talked about this truck a few times and boy, these
26:34
used to, these used to be just kicking around, right?
26:38
For kicking around cash.
26:39
It used to be any time you, you, if you just would search one on
26:42
Craigslist, it'd be one, you could find one.
26:44
Yeah, it might be rough.
26:45
It might, might, you know, it might have a whole, it might have
26:49
a huge Raiders shield on the tailgate or something like that.
26:53
There might be like five cigarette burns in the red
26:55
velour, but you know, it, it goes, comes with the territory.
26:58
They're angry people and the bed comes with it.
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This was, uh, the artist.
27:06
So, uh, I struggled with this one because it really was just
27:11
kind of a muscle truck, to be honest.
27:13
That's what they were going for there.
27:14
Um, trailblazer SS.
27:17
And then I put question mark sob nine seven with that same motor.
27:24
I think those are kind of big engines.
27:27
No, they are like, if it's the ethos, I just think.
27:30
I know it's not a pickup.
27:31
I know, I know it's not a pickup.
27:33
It would be, they're kind of like finding an unruined one,
27:37
especially those trailblazer SS is like, dude, I know every.
27:41
I cannot think of the last time I saw one that wasn't absolutely
27:45
slammed and had the world's like lumpiest cabinet.
27:48
But when you see a stock one, you're just like, when they're fucking cool.
27:52
I don't know if I have, they're out there, they're out there.
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They're in some like 80 year old dude's garage with like 20,000 miles
27:59
And God, what's that thing worth though?
28:01
So I, that's what I'm saying.
28:02
I had, I don't wildly disagree.
28:07
But I'm going Dakota RT, baby.
28:10
OK, I was thinking that original Ford Lightning.
28:15
Boy, those are hard to find.
28:16
I mean, both of these are hard to find because Dakota RTS were pretty,
28:20
pretty beat up, but they made a lot more of them.
28:23
And they made them from what, like 96 to like, oh, three, I think.
28:27
Yeah, you take that.
28:28
I'm going to take my, I'm going to take my Dakota sport
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with the convertible roof.
28:33
Thank you very much.
28:34
Yeah, I will say that nothing like that.
28:37
You could you could get a Dakota sport with the five two
28:40
and a five speed, which is pretty sick.
28:42
What was the big motor Dodger's thrown in five nines, right?
28:45
Yeah, the five nine.
28:47
It's just the Mopar 360 with with with better marketing.
28:51
Yeah, they're cool.
28:52
I like it's kind of like the original Durango RTS, right?
28:54
Stuff, the bigger motor.
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Yeah, it's the same motor, same thing.
28:57
It's the exact same powertrain.
28:58
Cool, cool truck, actually.
29:00
Find one of those stock.
29:02
You see, now I had a friend who had to go to RTS.
29:05
I think that one pairs well with a trailblazer SS for a competition.
29:09
Yeah, I think that's a cool like we get those and we can't find them.
29:14
The trailblazer SS is so it's it's really the ballsyest of that era.
29:19
Yeah, yeah, Durango RT, though, pretty cool.
29:22
Yeah, yeah, moving right along.
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This one's fun BMW E 60 M five.
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And the money is obviously in the manual.
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Fuck, these were cheap for so long.
29:36
These were stop sign cars to stay away from.
29:39
If you even thought about like doing a doing a craigslist search back in the day
29:44
or early marketplace,
29:46
you would you would hear every one morning you that feed 10 is unreliable.
29:50
Don't press the M button.
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All the do not press.
29:54
You do not want 500 horsepower, son, kill you.
29:57
These things are incredibly cool.
30:00
I've always thought they were cool.
30:02
I thought they were a softer body versus like the E 39 or like really.
30:06
Yeah. Yeah, it's food.
30:09
What do you think? What do you do?
30:11
What do you do to undercut because they are pricey?
30:13
A manual, low mileage, clean one is pretty pricey.
30:17
Yeah, they're cool.
30:20
I've actually I've driven an SMG car and I've driven a manual,
30:25
but like just like around for a photo shoot in an enclosed space,
30:29
like I'm not like in anger, which is a shame.
30:33
But one thing, one car, the analog that comes along the dollar store replacement
30:39
of this, which is what I've got a bunch of see time in,
30:42
is the God, I want to say it was like oh, six to 2011, I think ish
30:51
Audi S6 with the yeah, with the 5.2 V10.
30:56
There's one I sold on cars and bids several years ago.
30:59
It was a car donation car and I drove it.
31:01
I drove it down to San Diego for Doug to review and then drove it back.
31:04
And so I had a thousand miles in that car and certainly softer.
31:13
Right, more GT, German V 10,
31:18
questionable reliability, questionable reliability.
31:21
It's a risk and that is always enjoyable.
31:23
Automatic, which, you know, yeah, you can get and less motor sport to eat
31:29
than an SMG, as much people give that transmission shit.
31:34
So a little softer, a little, a little,
31:36
but like honestly, probably more reliable, which is not saying much.
31:41
And you can get like a good one for 10, 12, they are free
31:48
because they're only good the moment you purchase it.
31:50
And then they're not good.
31:51
God, yeah, dude, you have to replace anything.
31:53
God, if that gearbox goes game over.
31:57
I think it's the ZF.
32:00
I'm pretty sure it's a ZF.
32:03
Transmission won't go ZF.
32:06
It's still going to fail.
32:07
But not before the other electronics, you know, your suspension leveling system
32:11
and all that stuff will fail.
32:11
Yeah, carbon clean this and that.
32:13
What are you thinking?
32:14
What's your door for?
32:15
I kept it BMW and I was like, wow, the previous M5.
32:18
And then I'm like, no, E39 and Pfizer astronomical now.
32:21
They're not 15,000 car cars anymore.
32:25
I with a manual E39 or I went back.
32:30
Yeah, so you can get your you can get your manual.
32:32
You can get a V8, which is V10s are not super plentiful.
32:35
We're not getting vipers here.
32:37
I think the 540 I kind of get you there.
32:41
It's substantial E39.
32:42
I think E39s have aged well, too.
32:44
They don't look bad.
32:45
Yeah, super well built.
32:47
Yeah, and you can find a clean one for Jesus for not a lot of money.
32:50
Those 540 is for only Jesus.
32:52
It will only cost you Jesus.
32:54
Well, that's that can.
32:57
Let Jesus take the wheel.
32:58
Yeah, yeah, yeah, 540 I but maybe not.
33:01
Don't want to take care of your oil leaks, though, because he doesn't give a shit
33:04
about your oil leaks.
33:06
But no, 540 I think is a good turning my crankcase oil in the wine.
33:10
Keeps turning my crank.
33:13
Well, it really turns my crank.
33:15
Jesus, Son of the Lord.
33:18
Oh, God. OK, moving along.
33:21
This one was interesting.
33:22
The second generation Dodge Ram charger popped up on the list.
33:27
Boy, these are neat.
33:29
They're neat, but it's funny because it's already it's already the dollar store
33:33
variant of its competitors, right?
33:34
Because it's cheaper than the Blazer and it's cheaper than the Bronco.
33:39
I put this is the dollar store version of the K5 Blazer and original.
33:42
Yes, that's that's what it is.
33:44
It is its own it's it is its own dollar store version.
33:47
I as much of a Mopar guy as I am, I never like these trucks.
33:50
I kind of like to my grandfather had one back in the 80s.
33:54
So, yeah, it was a super cool.
33:57
What a mean looking truck, though.
34:02
It's a substantial.
34:04
It's a slab of Americana.
34:06
I kind of like these things.
34:08
And then but then like, what do I do that can be cheaper?
34:11
So I'm thinking, well, I'm going to lean heavily on smaller things and then
34:16
something like lesser known, like I think an Asuzu Trooper works in this case
34:20
because it's a boxy off-roader rugged truck, very utilitarian.
34:25
And then I thought, like, well, of course, you can't overlook the S10 Blazer.
34:28
You can't overlook the Bronco.
34:29
Yeah, which are smaller boxy or off-road.
34:33
Bronco 2 is like such an analog because
34:36
both both cars had that like quarter glass that kind of went up on the roof
34:39
a tiny bit. Absolutely.
34:40
And, dude, look at Bronco 2 prices right now.
34:43
They're insanely cheap.
34:45
Yeah. Yeah, they're wildly cheap.
34:47
I think they're cool, too.
34:48
But they're cool. Yeah, come on, dude, roll over test.
34:50
We all know that was an inside fucking game, dude.
34:53
Yeah. Until it isn't.
34:54
That's an outside the window game.
34:56
Nobody likes moose.
34:59
Meese. Yeah, don't test me, moose.
35:00
I'll test you right back.
35:02
But no, I was thinking, it's funny because you were saying smaller.
35:04
I was thinking going even smaller and with like a like a hard kick.
35:11
Top sidekicks are to top samurais, but they're pretty spendy for what they are.
35:16
They are sidekicks are cheaper and you can get the hard like a hard top two door
35:20
sidekick for pocket change in a handy.
35:24
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
35:26
You'll end up with some sort of communicable disease, but that's the price
35:29
you pay for shopping at the dollar store of the automotive world.
35:33
And yeah, like those are cool.
35:36
But yeah, it is funny, but we both have the same
35:37
kind of like this already is.
35:39
Yeah, it's the dollar version.
35:40
Yeah, but we got two more cars left real quick.
35:44
Mark three GTI, the VR six variant, especially was called out again.
35:50
Pretty affordable car for me.
35:52
This one was one of the harder ones.
35:55
Because the Mark three GTI is already kind of
35:59
Mark three Mark Mark three definitely pricier than Mark four is the.
36:04
Yeah, Mark four is a cheaper.
36:07
So my thought was just like
36:09
just a Mark three Jetta, like a GLX with a VR six, because you have to you buy
36:15
that car not because it's a GTI, but because it's got the VR six.
36:19
Right. That's why you buy it.
36:24
I think I think that's the out.
36:26
I think as you find you find a Jetta, it's the same car, but cheaper
36:30
and a little longer and got a trunk.
36:33
So I would I followed your track like we're thinking
36:36
on the same wavelengths here.
36:38
I went with Jetta GLI.
36:40
So you can get a VR six with some of those.
36:42
Most of them came with the one point eight turbo.
36:44
Yeah, I thought they were all.
36:44
Yeah, no, you can get a VR six or GLX.
36:47
But I'm talking the I'm talking the generation after you're talking about.
36:50
Right. The Mark four.
36:51
Yeah, so the I love those ones that works too.
36:55
Or I, you know, you can get a Mark four with a VR six very easily.
36:59
And those are the cheapest of cheap.
37:00
I think I think the Mark fours are like at the bottom.
37:03
Maybe Mark five, some Mark fives are cheaper.
37:04
But I like I actually like the 20th anniversary edition with the Rikara seats.
37:09
I know I know it's a multi spoke.
37:12
Yeah, I think those are the blue.
37:13
I think those are great.
37:14
I think those are great cars.
37:15
And those are like six grand for the cleanest one.
37:18
Yeah, lower blue, right?
37:20
You can get a real good color.
37:21
Yeah, it's funny that those 20th anniversary ones, though,
37:23
with low with like reasonably low miles, actually pull money.
37:26
They never do. It's always one hundred and eighty eight.
37:28
Yeah, but every time the place you get the one with one hundred and eighty
37:32
thousand miles and and someone gave birth in the backseat and so you get a discount.
37:37
Yeah, and those were cars can get chewed up pretty easy.
37:39
But man, what a good looking car.
37:40
I like how those Mark fours look.
37:42
I think those are still cheaper.
37:43
If you're going to undercut a Mark three, I think you can go with Mark four.
37:46
And you get you get a lot of the
37:48
you get a lot of the same, right?
37:50
To be honest, a lot of the same experience, more, more melty.
37:52
Probably higher build quality, honestly, for the interior.
37:55
Yeah, yeah, probably less exciting dynamically.
38:00
A little softer, a little more like a little chunkier, yeah.
38:03
Chunky or chunkier boy.
38:05
She chonk. What's the last one, dog?
38:07
The last one. This is the challenging one.
38:12
I put a really bad NB Miata.
38:15
Yeah, I said you can't undercut this one.
38:17
The NBs have been a deal, especially with the NAs jumping up, pop up headlight tax.
38:24
And now they're starting to get recognized.
38:25
NBs are starting to go up a little bit.
38:27
Dynamically, the NB has more chassis as a as a someone that's as a recovering Miata
38:32
addict, the NB does have better chassis dynamics from the factory just because the
38:36
bracing, they did a lot more reinforcement, a little heavier, but not much.
38:40
NAs are fucking infinitely cool, though.
38:42
But the NB has always been cheaper.
38:44
NB has always been the cheapest way to get into a Miata.
38:47
And now they're starting to get recognized.
38:49
And I think that's a fair call out.
38:50
You got to remember, too, of course,
38:52
I'm not talking about like the Mazda speech, which were NBs their last two years.
38:58
You have you, you don't have an option.
39:00
You always get the one eight.
39:01
You always have the full, the full boil hundred and forty horsepower experience.
39:08
I do have one alternative for this.
39:09
So oh, Jesus, Saturn, Sky.
39:15
But non-GXP or red.
39:17
Yeah, got to be a base model.
39:18
Because if you get the red liner GXP, you're going over interior worse.
39:28
I'm not going to make that decision for you.
39:33
Maybe, I don't know.
39:34
I feel like driving dynamics.
39:37
I mean, I've driven one.
39:38
It was fine, but it was on dinosaurically old tires.
39:41
So I didn't like push it really hard.
39:46
Like those cars are cheap, cheap.
39:49
I can still go buy a good drive at NB Miata for six five, six grand, though.
39:53
You can like that's like a good one.
39:56
That's a that's a good, good solstice.
39:58
I mean, here's the thing.
40:00
An NB is so cheap already.
40:02
Yeah, like we're really like I'm nipping at the margins here.
40:05
Because that's what I'm saying.
40:06
Oh, it's 15 percent cheaper.
40:08
OK, so it's like eight hundred dollars cheaper, like tight.
40:11
I'm saying you can't undercut them there.
40:13
I think I think they're kind of, but like you won't get rewarded for it.
40:16
No, no, yeah, you're going to suffer more than your
40:19
dollar fifty you put away after price shopping.
40:22
But I think I think the NB Miata is such a good buy right now.
40:26
I think I still got to love NAs.
40:28
Clearly, I've owned one NB to my three NAs, right?
40:32
Like that's that speaks.
40:34
But NAs are so expensive for like one with all the panels matching.
40:38
And it's still like reliable and well kept clean title.
40:40
They've cooled down a little bit.
40:42
But like, no, but they're still waiting.
40:43
I used to buy him for two to three grand, dude.
40:49
Yeah, right now for a five thousand dollar NB Miata.
40:52
Right. You don't want it. I don't want it.
40:55
No, nobody wants it.
40:57
That's the list, my friend.
41:00
I think we lined up pretty good, man, for no like no pre-gaming or anything.
41:07
Who speaking of game?
41:11
Hmm. Are you are you ready?
41:14
I'd like to play a game.
41:17
This is our automotive print ad quiz game show, guys.
41:20
And we're going to segue right from the bull market to a little game we play.
41:26
Frank's going to read a magazine printed advertisement from the period of the
41:31
80s, 90s to mid 2000s.
41:33
He's going to admit anything that gives it away.
41:35
I have three guesses to figure out what car he's not doing a good job describing.
41:40
Whenever I fail, I get to ask for help.
41:42
A little lifeline action.
41:43
Doubt, I'm going to get any help.
41:44
He is really a jerk when this game starts.
41:47
I don't know where it comes from, Frank.
41:48
I've been wanting to talk to you about this, but you become a real asshole.
41:52
So we're going to start 10 minutes on the clock to save you guys from hearing me
41:55
say, um, five thousand times, Frank, roll that beautiful bean footage.
42:02
So in our ad, it is a one page ad.
42:05
I desire it. And here's the thing.
42:08
It's festive, right?
42:10
December. It might be a December to remember.
42:13
We're going to find out.
42:14
But all I know is that this is a a Christmas themed ad.
42:19
It may or may not be a car that we've done before.
42:23
I don't know. I don't.
42:25
I feel like maybe we have the inability to read the list that Chadwick made.
42:29
I have not done the research here, and I figured it doesn't matter
42:33
because it's just so Christmassy and in the spirit of the holiday season
42:39
that we're going to read it anyways.
42:40
Let's do it. And yeah.
42:42
So one page and let's face it.
42:44
We're kind of like we've kind of done almost all the cars,
42:47
two hundred something episodes and all of the cars.
42:52
One page at top half script, bottom half.
42:55
Oh, we have the vehicle in question.
42:58
It's going up like, I don't know, a 15 degree grade.
43:00
The wheels are spinning snow on the ground.
43:04
And underneath it, it says, oh, oh, oh.
43:08
We have we have Santa Claus himself behind the wheel.
43:12
I see it looks like at least three elves.
43:16
They look Italian, but they're elves.
43:19
They're in the back seat and then in behind them in the cargo area.
43:23
You can see there's a bag and it says reindeer food.
43:27
And they're they're they're hauling they're hauling the reindeer food.
43:34
The rest of it goes as this.
43:37
When a man is discerning, a Saint Nick gives his personal seal of approval
43:42
to a car, you know, it must be something to say, ho, ho, ho about.
43:47
Santa's a man with tough requirements.
43:50
That's why he chose the blank.
43:53
The sleigh is fine for Christmas Eve, but for the rest of the year,
43:57
he needs something more practical.
43:59
He needs a car roomy enough to carry feed for all his reindeer,
44:04
yet economical and dependable enough to pull through treacherous roadways.
44:10
If the blank can fit needs as demanding as Santa's, just think how easily it can
44:17
accommodate you if room is what you want.
44:20
Stretch out no small four wheel drive wagon can match its roominess.
44:26
The roofline is higher than any other small wagon.
44:33
And there's a panoramic rear window for more visibility.
44:37
Five people can fit comfortably with lots of space for gear in the carpeted cargo area.
44:43
And if you want more luggage space, just fall down the rear seat backs to get
44:47
fifty nine point eight cubic feet of space.
44:51
If economy is what you want, blanks fuel efficient one point five liter
44:56
single overhead cam engine delivers the best fuel economy fuel economy
45:02
of any four wheel drive wagon.
45:05
Forty one estimated highway, thirty one estimated miles per gallon EPA.
45:12
If you want a tough, dependable car, look no further.
45:16
The blank four wheel drive wagon can pull you through almost any road condition
45:21
from the North Pole to Main Street.
45:24
And it switches from four wheel drive,
45:27
sorry, it switches from front wheel drive to four wheel drive on command.
45:35
New for blank is a conventional two wheel drive wagon that has all the features
45:40
Santa wants in his four wheel drive, but it's for people who don't have to go to
45:46
It's the blank four wheel drive wagon for you, just that Santa.
45:50
And then it's got a little seal and it's like a stamp.
45:53
It's approved by Santa and it's got his face.
45:57
And this is the blank four wheel drive wagon, the official car of Santa Claus.
46:05
Are you are you in the spirit?
46:09
Is this does this get does this jingle your bells?
46:11
What does this do, sir?
46:12
So at first I was like, I was like, how does he know there's reindeer food?
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Because usually wagons are pretty chopped roof of their affairs.
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Oh, I'm like, how can you see?
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Yeah, how can you see the food?
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And then I'm like, what is it like some big glass canopy?
46:28
And then when you started saying displacement, one point five liters,
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I'm like, he is really talking, he's stretching the term wagon right here.
46:35
So then two things come to mind.
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There is a Toyota product and a Honda product that pop into my mind.
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And they're little teeny motors, wagons.
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I think it's the I'm going to go with the
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the one point five Honda Rena one five.
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And they're wagon van car, the four by four.
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But I forget what year because I think that engine displacement changed.
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So let's see if I get the year is important on this one.
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Honda, four by four wagon van.
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Finally, is there a more model name?
47:16
Where's the four by four wagon van?
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Wagon van or wagon van?
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I can't. I don't know, but is it like based off of a?
47:29
It's a civic based.
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Yeah. Yeah. Nineteen.
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What I say, eighty five, eighty five, one point five liters, single overhead cam.
47:35
Final answer. Santa Claus does not approve
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of the 1985 Honda Civic wagon van.
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It is not the Honda Civic wagon wagon van.
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It is. I'll give you this.
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It is a it is a Japanese product.
48:02
Was there any mention of I didn't hear anything about weird doors or anything like that.
48:07
So no, it said what did it say about the glass canopy?
48:15
The roof line is higher than any other small wagon for more headroom.
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And there's a panoramic rear window for more visibility.
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Five people can sit comfortably.
48:25
Lots of space for gear, like on our reindeer food, apparently.
48:39
This is interesting.
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Now in the panoramic roof, I guess I don't was that an option?
48:45
Panoramic rear glass, rear glass.
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OK, I don't even know.
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He's got a you can see out the back.
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It's all yeah, it's it's all glass.
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It's glass. It is clear.
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Is it the one I'm thinking of?
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Is it the competitor like the direct fucking competitor to what I just said?
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I don't know. If so, let's go for it.
49:05
I remember these very very glassy canopies, very green housey.
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The Toyota Tercel four wheel drive also 1985.
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OK, sell four by four wagon.
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Got it with the one point.
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I'm going to copy this.
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Send it one point to save one point five liter.
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These were carbureted and I believe they were good for sixty three horsepower.
49:40
I own one very briefly
49:43
and it ran like garbage when I got it because I got it for free.
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And it ran like garbage when I was done with it.
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But better garbage.
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I sold it to somebody.
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They got it they got it impounded.
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I got a lean notice later.
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Let me see this beautiful.
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I love these things. Yeah, they are.
50:00
it does have a little more glass, but it's very much the same.
50:04
You see that right?
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That's sick reindeer.
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Yeah, you can. You can see it. Wow.
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So I was pretty close to my first guess.
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I mean, yeah, that was chief competitor.
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Yeah, that was kind of the only two
50:17
because I do believe that was the was at the D 15, I think.
50:21
So they switched right in the Honda.
50:23
They did switch to a one six with the later ones because I've seen cars with that
50:27
motor that's the following generation with the real the RT, the real time four
50:31
wheel drive, yes, which is different.
50:35
Were those a selectable four wheel drive?
50:38
I think it was an I think it was it's automatically selectable based on
50:43
conditions. Yeah. Yeah.
50:44
So it was a front I think it was front wheel drive.
50:48
And then the rear wheel will kick in on slippage.
50:50
Kind of like the old remember the old Camry's where you could select it to that
50:53
had the front wheel track.
50:54
Yeah, those are those are these ones.
50:56
These ones were just like a like a more traditional selectable four wheel drive.
51:01
They just they took the rear diff out of like the SR5 Corolla's of the era
51:07
and slapped it in the back and then ran a drive shaft through it.
51:09
And then on the five speed manuals, you had a grainy gear, like a sixth gear.
51:13
But instead of like a overdrive, right, a crawl gear.
51:16
Yeah, those are really thick.
51:17
That's how mine was. It was it was sick.
51:19
It was a friend, parents, and they parked it for 10 years and they're like,
51:23
make it go away. So I did.
51:25
I paid my younger brother like $20 to chase a business out of it.
51:30
Those things are pretty rough, right?
51:32
Like everyone I've seen is pretty rough condition.
51:35
The bodies took to rest very, very quickly.
51:39
Interiors early 80s.
51:40
Yeah, got smashed up pretty quick, too.
51:43
Yeah, those are cool.
51:44
I like both of those cars to take the truth.
51:46
And you know what? Very similar looking cars, too.
51:48
I feel like question I I think we maybe we've done
51:53
not this ad, but this car before maybe it was like early days.
51:56
Yeah, that's a look it back up.
51:57
I don't know. Or we did the Honda one. Who knows?
52:00
I'm pretty sure we've done.
52:01
I think we've done both, but oh, whatever.
52:03
Sweet. Maybe just did in my sleep.
52:05
Anyways, good ad, dude.
52:07
Speaking of things we do in our sleep, we'll make it rain.
52:09
Probably. Yeah, let's see that.
52:11
Let's see if again. Oh, Jesus Christ, the battery is dead.
52:14
Oh, no. Oh, no. We can't have good things, guys.
52:16
I'm sorry. No, no, we can't.
52:18
We have to do it like analog.
52:20
This came from good. Well, yeah, just whip them out.
52:25
Speaking of dollar store.
52:27
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
52:33
Oh, man. I just feel like I was that last one out like it.
52:37
Boy, that is why you watch on YouTube.
52:39
That reminds me of prison.
52:40
So, yeah, um, boy, not that that.
52:46
Sorry, guys, that you know, we're not as spry and young as we used to be.
52:50
You gotta. Yeah, this is true.
52:51
You got to get that last drop out of the ketchup.
52:54
Yeah. This is this way.
52:55
We have to take longer breaks between podcast sessions.
52:59
Okay, well on that horrific nightmarish note
53:06
Talk about not being able to finish have you been working on any projects lately, so I have man
53:11
I've actually I wish I had way more time, but I kind of texted you the other night
53:16
I'm I've been chasing on this Volvo v50. We're talking about the project a budget rally car
53:23
this fucking airbag this SRS light and
53:27
Yeah, I thought originally that it was like a no-brainer that it was because the fucking seat was cut out the passenger seat
53:32
No, come on, dude captain obvious. It's gonna be something easier than that
53:36
Driver so I get I finally pull the code and these things are fickle
53:39
SRS stuff for Volvos is complicated even like this 2005 right? It's way more complicated
53:45
You should have the special scan tool to see exactly what the fault is because a regular scan tool will just say
53:50
SRS error or whatever
53:53
Drivers seatbelt tension is what it came back and I'm like, oh cool
53:58
I guess they have a pretensioner that goes bad and or two things happen in an accident
54:03
It pre fires it's a little explosive device and you have to replace the unit or
54:08
Over time the sensor dies and gets low voltage and just won't function and that kicks back a fault, right?
54:14
So it's a game, right?
54:16
It's the game to find one online that hasn't been subjected to an accident
54:20
Which like nine out of ten junkyard vehicles have experienced an accident, right?
54:25
So they're all over the place you get like from fifty to a hundred bucks. I'd say on average
54:30
Sometimes cheaper sometimes more you get what you get and there's no way to test it until you hook it up, right?
54:35
Like they they're not gonna tell you like they're they're like the vehicle didn't run
54:38
Dude, I can't tell you if there was a warning light for the SRS. Yeah, just anyway
54:41
I buy one I finally get it in so I get the unit the fucking seat belt won't pull out of
54:47
The new okay, well, you know what happens you you know what causes that but what's that the pretensioner deploying?
54:54
Volvo has a special like locking thing that detects the exact angle the seat belt is being held that
55:01
Which is insane tech for 2005
55:05
So you bolt it in place and once the unit is at the exact angle
55:09
I was like, okay, it's bolted you can pull it out. I'm like what the dude
55:12
I was doing I was pulling Excalibur out of the fucking stone and that thing wouldn't move
55:17
So I get it mounted or pull it out. I'm like, yes
55:19
I'm happy because I was like I gotta return this one. I gotta get another one
55:23
And then someone I went to buy another one
55:25
I'm like, could you just test the seat belt and the guys like oh my god
55:27
It worked in the car, but it doesn't work now and I'm like ah light bulb came on wouldn't grab the one
55:32
I purchased it works plugged it in did everything and then the code still there right because it's a hard code
55:37
You cannot you gotta it's in the ECU actually it'll hold the memory
55:41
You have to use the Volvo. I bought a little Volvo old scan tool, which is fucking epic
55:46
They used to be like everywhere and now you can't find them anymore sure everybody loves these cars has one right
55:51
Hooked it up cleared the code started up a couple of drive cycles has not come back my friend
55:57
And that's a huge thing it wasn't an airbag, but still it was part of the SR system
56:01
And people yeah, you get the SR if you have a safety inspection or anything like that it can kick back
56:04
But now we have a car with no safety
56:07
Warning lights at all fucking go hell. Yeah, dude
56:09
Like those are those are some of the car things that can drive you baddy
56:14
Like I could have went to Volvo paid like 200 300 dollars and reset the code and have it come right back on because that's what happened
56:20
I was resetting the code before I replaced the part and the second
56:23
I powered the car on the light would come back. Yep, which means it's like still very much in the system
56:28
And it's still triggering the fault so yeah
56:31
These things can trip you up man
56:32
Like if you don't have the scan tool or things like that or the where would all to try to track down a used part
56:36
And play that game. I hate stuff like that Frank
56:39
I like I like working on cars to me
56:41
That's not working on cars chasing that kind of stuff where you're just waiting for something to ship on eBay for two weeks
56:46
And then and yeah, it's not horrible. You don't know if it's a good part or not, right?
56:51
And the car and not then like do you try throw another part at it or do you do you go back to the drawing board?
56:57
It sucks. Yeah, and the car runs perfectly
56:59
It's the only thing is you could take a price bath because of a light like that
57:03
All kinds of horrible things. I don't like that kind of stuff, but we got through it fine like after months
57:08
So killer. So that's my PCP. That was very positive
57:13
Project car progress for me. Yeah, I've got I've got I have
57:17
Some Volvo PCP of my own. Oh, what you got man. She go the 240. Yeah, 740 740. Sorry big sold it
57:29
Yeah, I was funny is so I took it out. I took I don't know a few dozen
57:34
Fancy photos of it. I put it up on
57:37
Right before I put it on marketplace, right? And I'm like, hey
57:41
Before I go put it on marketplace for like thirty two hundred bucks to get beat down to like twenty five hundred bucks. Sure
57:49
I'm in the car like 1500. Yeah, nothing. Yeah, it thousand for the car was like a hundred and thirty to register it
57:55
It's like about a hundred and fifty to get a smog. I bought a battery
57:58
So, I mean probably less than fifteen hundred bucks, but not that far from that
58:02
If I get two grand keep it on the road and hell, yeah, get it get it to somebody who cares about it great perfect
58:10
So I put it on mark on did before I put it on marketplace
58:13
I'm like, hey, I'm gonna put this thing on marketplace soon if somebody wants it in the community locally
58:19
Perfect, like I'd like to get twenty five hundred bucks for it. Somebody somebody hit me up
58:26
Homie reaches out to me who I actually sold years ago
58:30
I sold him a very low like a 27,000 mile 740 turbo. Oh, wow that came through car donation
58:37
I sold it on cars and bids it popped for like 13 grand. Wow. It was a good sale. Good mileage. Yeah, good mileage good sale
58:45
Imperfect car, but nice. It was gold over
58:48
Black vinyl and cloth like a hounds tooth pattern. It was like it was cool for cool car automatic synapse. Okay
58:55
So he hit me up. He's like, dude, I'm super interested
58:59
Okay, so I was like I let me just do like a walk around video and I'll shoot you a link to it
59:05
So I made this like 25 minute video driving in
59:08
Looking around it. Like this is this is where it was hit in the back before the salvaged and bop-bop-bop
59:14
Senator tommy's just like, okay, sick. He's like if you'll take two grand cash, I'll be there on on Saturday
59:20
God damn. I'm like done. Cool. Yeah, I'll take whatever like
59:24
At this point. I just want I want to it runs so damn. Well, it shouldn't go to the junkyard
59:29
I bought a hundred percent only to save from that and make
59:32
Beer money. Yeah, exactly and so that that's it
59:36
So that's that's what happened. So he came in on we ended meeting up on Sunday
59:41
He came Sunday morning. He's like, I don't need to drive it. Nothing. Here's two grand cash. Like I saw your video
59:47
It I trust you, right? I bought the other car from me before like you're not gonna screw me like sick. Okay, cool
59:54
There's a good or a minute transaction
59:58
We poked around it like real quick and he's like seriously like you don't have to show me anything like
00:03
Here's shut up and take my money like all right, cool. We talked about it for a minute sent him down the road and
00:08
Then today so this is Monday next day. He text me he's he's like
00:15
Bro, I'm so happy with this car. This thing runs so good. I'm like, I'm telling you dawg. Thank God. It's so fucking good
00:23
I was like, it's it's fabulous. I'm glad you like it
00:26
Like I just I'm trying to keep I'm trying to keep the the car gods on my side
00:30
Yeah, and doing something like this helps that like just
00:34
Helping someone in the community
00:36
Being a matchmaker because otherwise I was gonna helping the charity out that I bought it and I get rewarded with a few hundred bucks for my
00:43
For my efforts. So for that it's it's worth it. Everybody wins. Everybody wins. And so
00:48
Yeah, he's just like, oh, yeah, like and I asked him. I was like, hey, how's the gold one going?
00:52
He's like, oh, we've got 45,000 miles on it. We've been driving it. It's been great
00:55
It's been perfect. Oh, yeah, dude, and he put they pulled up in a 740
01:00
wagon with all these mods five speed
01:04
He's like, oh, yeah, like we're we're turning into a full drift a full drift missile like next week. Damn boy. Yeah, let's go
01:10
It's awesome. Yeah, really happy with the outcome
01:13
You know, could I have made a few hundred dollars more if I ran on a marketplace? Probably yeah, but it found it found the right home
01:19
Yeah, I found the right home. I'm it's
01:21
You know, it helps someone in the community
01:23
It's it's a good car kept it out of the junkyard. So
01:29
That's what I'm all right. Let's shut this bad boy down. Yeah. Yeah, we probably should
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02:03
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02:08
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02:36
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02:46
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02:50
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03:06
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03:10
I might mention your ford focus breaking down to the car show four days before the rally
03:15
And it's ultimate demise in the competition. But anyway, uh, that's coming out
03:19
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03:32
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