Episode #205 - Two Goons & Their Tunes

In a world with an direly too many shows about cars, this is another Pointless Automotive

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Welcome back to another Pointless Automotive Podcast.

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Let's get it out.

We still have the same title.

That's the one.

It's been over four years I've heard.

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No season to assist yet to make us change it.

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Frank, how are you doing this evening, man?

I'm excellent.

Had a, it's kind of a slow time of year for me, which is kind of nice because there's

rain and there's people traveling and so they're not always with very close and

nearby exception.

Very few people bugging me right now to be like, you have to come shoot my photo, photograph

my car today.

Except for this mother effort.

Except for some guy here on this podcast.

So it's been good.

How about you?

Yeah.

You, the opposite of that problem, I understanding.

Yeah.

No.

It's, today is my first day off of work in like three weeks.

So I took a little comp day, reviewed a really cool Volvo and then had a really

good photographer come take some snappy snaps of it.

It's not like that.

Yeah.

It looks pretty cool.

Um, and I had fun, man, and I appreciate what you do and your services are amazing.

So teamwork, dream work.

Yeah.

I love it.

Um, guys, let's, before we, before we get off the sidebar stuff, uh, my background

today, Frank, I forgot to mention it last time is a Sega Dreamcast hit, uh, called

Sega GT.

Uh, it is, it's not very well known this game.

It's a board regarded.

Yeah.

No, it is regarded highly though.

It's a, it's a driver's sim, you know, not Gran Turismo, but you can build

your own car in it, which was kind of fun.

You could like rear row drive, have like a different kind of body, uh, VA V six

turbo, all kinds of fun stuff.

So pretty cool little game.

I love retro video games.

So, um, especially car games, I think I just saw, um, like this week, Sega

Dreamcast, like finally stopped supporting their like online feature

stuff, like for the Dreamcast, like they finally stopped supporting it,

which is absolutely insanity.

That doesn't make any sense.

That's wild.

So you can't get on, you can't online get, uh, I'm going to start over again.

Reset life.

Um, no, Sega Dreamcast, you can't play crazy taxi online against

your buddies.

You used to be able to up until like a week ago or something.

That's insane.

All right.

I need a Miller light.

That's what I need.

Anyway, what are we talking about today?

We're talking about music.

Yeah.

So, um, it's funny what, what actually kind of, um, you know,

kind of kick this into my, into my head, uh, kickstart my heart,

if you will, um, is, uh, skydive naked from an airplane.

Similar.

Um, you know, I thought that lyric said, stand up naked on an airplane.

And I'm like, oh, so I mean, that's effectively, um, you know, that song by filter.

Oh yeah.

Wake up my airplane.

Yeah.

That song is about getting hammer drunk.

Yeah.

And stripping down naked and stumbling around a plane and then

forcing the plane to land and getting tased because that's what happened to the

lead singer of filter who is the brother of, uh, the T 1000 in Terminator.

So I know that is an interesting piece of trivia.

I love that.

Yeah.

Um, but do you think so you're saying that the filter song is the sequel

to the Motley Crew song?

It might be.

Like the song more hit, if you will.

Yeah.

It just, it just, you know, sisterhood of the traveling naked on an airplane.

Skydive naked from an airplane.

So, well, we'll, we'll start my stuff.

Yeah, whatever.

Don't worry about it.

It's fine.

Um, what, what kick started this thought to talk about what we're going to talk

about today, which is music and cars in the intersection thereof.

Um, but what, what kind of got this into my mind was, um, I'm going to

completely blame friend of the pod, um, Mr. Warren Madsen, um, because on, on, uh,

podcast, he is a co-host on, uh, DWA driving while awesome podcast.

He started out a, uh, an episode by going, welcome to the show and tell

convention on Mars.

And then he made like, he made like a thing like, oh, nobody knows this

reference, nobody's going to get it.

And I was like, I know that from something.

And I thought about it for like 20 minutes.

And I remembered what it was.

It's from a very obscure song from a moderately obscure rapper, Devin the

dude who, um, uh, is just like a Houston area rapper.

And I happen to know some of his like mid 90s to mid 2000s hits.

And that's the intro to like some random beats.

Oh, I texted him about it.

I was like, did you just make a fucking Devin the dude reference?

Like an obscure one.

And he's like, how did you get that?

I was just like, cause I'm an idiot.

Um, and it just made me think like, I don't know, like a lot of

car people are into music.

Um, I certainly enjoy some music.

And I kind of wanted to just explore, uh, the overlap there because

there's a big one, like one of the main things and, and features on

a car and has been for a very long time is its stereo, its music

capabilities.

And so I just wanted to, let's, we've not really talked about tunes.

Yeah.

It's a basically two goons in their tunes is what we should call this one.

We should that's gooning and tuning.

It should be, yeah, yeah, yeah, dude.

I agree.

Whether it's God mix tapes back in the day, uh, installing your

first aftermarket CD player that got so hot to the touch that you

could not put your hands on it after it'd been on for five minutes.

Uh, what, what are the, let's just say, quote unquote, installing

because I'm sure you did some hokey ass installs.

Like I did when I was like 17.

I think 20% 20% of my installs would stay in place.

If you reversed and pulled an e-brake, 20% would stay in place.

The rest would eject out violently.

Yeah.

That's what you do is in the fix, then, is you take some of the box

that the head unit came in and you get some of it and like fold it

over and like jab it in the side so that it doesn't go anywhere.

That is it, which doesn't help the heat thing.

Believe it or not, it insulates it even further.

But yeah, just cables everywhere.

No, I've been there, man, um, a sub box slamming around in your

trunk or in your hatchback.

Great stuff.

Uh, I bought a Miata that had home theater speakers behind the

headrest, not in the headrest behind the headrest.

So every time you stopped or around a corner, it would slam

you or the passenger right in the fucking temple.

Uh, brilliant design.

Yeah.

Um, yeah, dude, DIY, audio stuff.

I kind of, here's the thing, Frank.

I feel like that is an absolutely nineties, early 2000s thing

that really hasn't, that has, it's not around like that anymore,

right?

Cause everything's digital.

You don't need a physical media player.

Um, what are kids doing nowadays?

We should have, we should have a youngster on the, on the pod to answer that.

They kind of have to be into something.

Like you kind of, boy, it's, it gets really, really hard after

cars made after what?

Call it 2010.

Yeah.

Where Bluetooth was almost guaranteed to be there.

Right.

So your Bluetooth thing shit in or your, like you can't to, to, to your point.

What are you going to like hit up Crutchfield and like tell them

you have a Tesla and be like, Oh yeah, I need to order for this car.

And it's just like, it just, they just mail you a, a photo

of someone's like middle finger on a copier.

That's like all they can mail you because they can not, no modern

car support any, anything, any, it was cool.

How you just referenced modern technology with a coffee.

Yeah.

Crutchfield, they have the internet, but that's about it.

Dude, the Tesla thing is hilarious.

It's like, imagine some kid like bricking his parents Tesla

because he tried to put it aftermarket.

I don't know.

What is it?

What is this?

What was the Sony?

I was like, yes, with all the red plastic like pieces, kind of

like Spider-Man's webs.

Remember they have the square subwoofers.

What was the worst is when someone put the speakers in that

matched and they stuck out of the door cards.

Like, oh yeah, Lord, those have aged horribly.

I've had, I've had a bunch of cars like that.

My Barracuda, when I bought it had random like holes cut in the,

in the front door panels, was just some random whatever

speakers stuck, stuck to it.

And because of the nineties and early 2000s, when you bought a

good speaker system, or usually the shitty ones had the greatest

like amount of extra design to them, you wanted to show that

off.

So you didn't put it under a speaker grill or anything.

There was no sneaky install or anything like that.

You throw the cover away.

Oh yeah, which you would pay like $50 for $600 for now to

replace on the car you're restoring.

Yeah.

You don't want to cover up your Rockford Fosgate six by

nines with a, with a cover.

No, no, you got to, that's a shame, dude.

That's a, that's a lost art, man.

It really is.

I have, and one I honestly haven't, I haven't like looked

and seen the state of the industry, but you have to

imagine like the only path forward for, you know, crutch

field and all like, which is like the number one like online,

I assume still is like the number one aftermarket, online

aftermarket supporter for, for custom car stereo stuff.

But like the manufacturers, say Sony, say Alpine, say

Pioneer, say Blaupunkt, whomever.

Yeah, monsoon.

They kind of, yeah, they kind of have to just, I assume

that they just have to lean in to older cars and

finding solutions for what those people want, whether it's

like, make the retro 80s looking thing like Blaupunkt

Dunn does with like the Bremen and Continental makes one.

You know, maybe, maybe there's going to be more of those

where it's like a retro looking thing because all the cars

are retro, like nobody's doing this to a 2020 anything.

That's a really good, I wonder if that's like their

path forward is lean into the vintage stuff because they

have no other choice.

That's a good point.

Yeah, I don't know.

I don't know how about think how much money OEMs are saving

not putting like a CD player cassette deck and all that

kind of fun stuff who even needs an FM AM transmitter.

I think they're just doing it so they don't give up

the ghost or whatever.

But I think just put a put a Bluetooth receiver in ways

nothing costs nothing like they've got to be saving.

It's like you're talking like hundreds of dollars per car.

Yeah, but I wonder how much of that is supplanted by like

well, but now here he comes to have a huge.

No, but like the expectation is now like, yeah, you don't have

a CD player, but you have a huge touchscreen.

Like you have to have a touch screen and a customizable

cluster screen and stuff like that.

And so some of that is probably offset.

But and AM FM, I think I don't know this, but I feel

like there is a legality thing where like because of,

you know, safety information, shit for disasters and weather

information, weather, yeah, yeah, yeah.

The apocalypse is coming.

You have to have something that will tell you that there.

But yeah, like it's.

Are there any are there any production cars right now

that still have a CD player?

Oh, that's a good question.

That'd be a fun piece of trivia.

The last make in model to feature a CD player.

I would argue that probably Lexus was it.

I'm saying it, I'm looking up right now.

They had to be the last of the tape.

I'm pretty sure they were.

Yeah.

Oh, wow.

OK, so you are half.

You get a half.

Correct.

It's a Yoda.

The last new cars offering CD players.

There's two currently on production.

Well, wait, currently produced.

There's still there's still a few.

Yeah, shut up.

Two manufacturers are doing it.

Subaru and Lexus.

OK.

So I S 300, 350, 500.

OK, our standard on all trims.

Same with the RC, which is dead now.

Yep, which with the RC.

Yeah, the RC dies this year.

And also Subaru Outback Legacy and WRX.

So the IS 500 has a CD player.

Hell, yeah.

Dude, that is at the most old school new car on sale.

That's like a naturally aspirated V8.

Yeah, rear wheel drive.

CD player, CD player, analog.

You are moving cluster, right?

Get one.

I love one.

We're going to drive this other set.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, not an official F, but who gives a fuck?

Yeah, if I'd rock and roll that thing.

Yeah.

And you know what?

It's probably got a ball or stereo CD player included.

Yeah.

But do you have what are your six disc?

Do you have any like tales of tales of fails when it comes to like

like, do you have any weird stereo stories about like

they don't have to be fails.

It could be anything like what were your like, like maybe missteps

or what have you with like working car stereo shit back in the day.

I have a funny story.

And this is this is a good story I like to tell people with about

you remember how everybody had the visors with all your CDs stuffed in them?

OK, so I was dating this chick a long time ago.

So no one this is outside of the limit of statue

statue limitations for getting jealous or getting upset.

Everyone that's listening might get jealous.

But yeah, so this this this girl is wild.

You know, I have a wild past, Frank.

And it'll come out in the late night, confidential a little bit.

But anyway, we whipped around this corner and she had a shit.

What did she have a Jetta Wolfsburg at the time?

And we went around a corner three.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

So we went around a corner and we had the windows down

and like literally 90 percent of her big, bulky ass CD thing

went out the window out the fucking window.

And you know what she did?

Started laughing maniacally.

And at that point, I knew I'm like, I'm fucking dead.

Yeah, I'm a dead man. Yeah.

Like, I would be so distraught of all my CDs like fluid

because that was life back then.

You didn't have any streaming music.

You didn't have the Internet legs.

Yeah, they were just fucking they straight up went

like all in perfect order right out of that booklet

into the into nature, if you will.

And she started didn't skip a beat started laughing.

Damn, crazy.

That's a see that only that can only happen in the early 2000s, late 90s.

Anyway, that's a good story.

I like to tell I'm trying to music though, man.

I don't I remember it having to do crazy things to get.

Like I remember putting a CD.

You remember CD Walkman's how they had

like anti skip?

I remember having those in cars and running them to that tape thing

so you could play it through your car with only a tape deck.

I I did that for a significant amount of time.

Yes, played like dog shit.

They still skip.

Like if you hit a bumper, so you got to get that 60 second

anti skip under this five second bullshit, you got to get the real deal.

But that was a real thing.

So like I remember, man, finding solutions to so you could listen

to music in a car was an actual challenge back in the day.

That was my go to that one worked really well.

God, aftermarket CD players, I always went with the cheap ones.

I never got a really nice one.

You know, I never saw that.

Then he put my cars were usually absolute shit boxes.

Hasn't changed much.

And what are we talking 30 something years later?

It hasn't hasn't changed, man, man.

I'm still like it was.

So when I when I was in high school with my barracuda,

when I bought it, it had an aftermarket tape deck in it.

OK, like the little turn the knobs, you know, typical.

Oh, yeah, typical very sensitive knobs.

You were working right.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, and like close together.

You couldn't tell if you're watching.

If you're watching on YouTube, you would have seen that.

I'm twisting the knobs.

Frank was either adjusting a radio or purple nerp

when somebody said either working on the last dose.

But no, the that's what I had in it.

And then for Christmas, I think it was my senior year.

My parents or maybe it's my birthday for something.

My parents got me like, hey, like we'll we'll get you a stereo.

Nothing crazy just at just the head unit, right?

Just the tip.

And so went to Circuit City.

Oh, yeah, it was Circuit City or good guys?

I don't remember which I think it was Circuit City.

Went there, picked out like an like it was like an entry level.

It was Alpine CD player.

That's a good show over face with the blue lighting and stuff.

And this was in 2001.

The Sons of Barry and had it in like I didn't know any better

because I was a child and so just gave it to them to install it.

And they're like, yeah, you know, we had to actually cut

or we had to charge an extra like $50 on the install

because it was like install is free with purchase or whatever.

Yeah, yeah, like, yeah, because we had to cut we had to cut a hole

in the dash to like get it in.

I was like, you what?

Like, yeah, yeah, because, you know, the old one and I didn't realize

because at the time it's like the knob with the knobby boys.

Yeah, went through the old school style stereo where

there's like a little hole for like the like the preset buttons

that come out and then two round holes on either side of it

for the knobs to stick out, but it had a square plate around that.

And I didn't know any better.

I just figured like square stereo is a square stereo, right?

And so it wasn't cut for a single din.

So they're like, oh, well, time to install.

And they just cut a full like a perfect square for a single din

and install it. I was like, excuse me.

You did. Oh, you didn't think to ask first and we're like,

I'm not paying extra for that.

What the fuck?

And so the whole thing.

Meanwhile, in the back, the 18 year old check to the supervisor,

the 20 year old and said, yeah, yeah, yeah, just got that shit.

Yeah, exactly.

As he's like looking at his pager and like waiting for waiting

for his his date to text him one, four, three or whatever.

But no, the yeah.

So and to cap it all off,

two weeks, that stereo lasted two weeks

until I managed to one day leave the faceplate still on it

in the high school parking lot and it was stolen.

Somebody. Wow.

They just they punched out the passenger side door lock

and just jammed the screwdriver in there and twisted it and unlocked it.

And yeah, so the shitty tape deck went back in,

but now it had a much bigger hole to sit in.

So back to the wedging technique.

Oh, yeah. And then I did what I did before,

which is you've got the tape deck adapter with the CD player

sitting on the passenger seat.

Yeah, it's a good time.

It's a good move, dude.

How about music, though?

When you're driving, are you are a music guy or you podcast guy?

Does it depend on the driving event?

Sure. I mean, yes.

For all of it.

So it's funny, like I now that I'm an old man,

I'm a 40 something year old. Certified.

Yeah, yeah.

I certainly listen to far more podcasts,

which is a problem.

It's probably negatively affecting my life and it's unhealthy.

But the.

It's funny, you say that because just earlier this week,

I had myself like a little bit of a moment and it really double down.

I'm like, oh, yeah, like I want to do this as a topic is talking about music.

It was I hopped in just my stupid Lexus CT.

And I was going driving off to play du Trivia at Trivia night with some friends

at a local speakeasy.

And on the way there, I randomly I forgot what I picked up.

I forgot what I punched in for like Apple music

and it like auto filled like local H,

which is a 90s, mid 90s to mid 2000s.

We're talking about this early. Yeah.

High five and motherfucker.

Yeah, there I would say people people

probably know them as like basically like a dollar store Nirvana.

But I would say they're more more of like a post grunge, grunge deal.

Anyways, music. OK.

And I was I put on a side and I didn't listen to them in 15 years, 20 years.

And I was like, oh, shit.

And I was like listening to some of it.

And it was like I was getting into it and like driving.

And this is just me in the CT.

And I realized I was like, man, I haven't like

gone like just gone for a really good drive

just putting on some good music on a background and getting after it.

And that's like a really, really, really enjoyable thing.

Hell, yeah.

So yeah, I would say the driving situation matters.

You know, you don't want to be listening to something like really

energetic and just in like bumper to bumper traffic, like just getting raged out.

That's what I do, man.

I try to build that angst meter so I can get home and take it out on everyone around me.

How about you? Like what do you what's what kind?

What sort of tunes are you going like

some Saudi to go carve up a back road?

Are you going to go more ODB?

Like what are you doing back like carving up a canyon?

It's got to be Eurobeat, Eurobeat intensifies for sure.

Yeah, yeah, nothing but that.

Actually, when I'm beating it on a beat when I'm excuse me, my meats repeatedly.

That's when you put on the Euro Euro Eurobeat.

So yeah, just some sandstorm.

No, God, I knew you were going to go with that one.

No, I actually don't listen to any music at all

when I'm when I'm tearing up a canyon.

Usually, I'm trying to listen to everything else going around me.

But like when I'm really just trying to cover ground, I do like like pretty heavy

stuff like very metal, very, very, very guttural stuff.

I think that that's like good blow off some steam at the end of the day.

That's what I listen to when I run to.

Same thing. I just I try to fight through life, Frank.

The things that work down.

Yeah, the things that push back on me in life.

I try to overcome with pure anger.

That's how I've made it this far.

Yeah, it works be the beast.

If I'm driving and it's like bumper to bumper traffic, like you said,

I I tend to prefer to listen to a podcast in those scenarios

because it keeps me mellow.

It gives me like my mind actually focuses on social.

If it's a good podcast focuses on what they're talking about.

Imagine what they're talking about and everything like that.

Right. That that's cool.

In general, I like if I'm just chilling, just going for a drive.

I still listen to a lot of alternative stuff from the 90s.

It's just kind of like Ray Gay.

You're going to go listen to like something like Slightly Stupid

or Pepper or any of those.

No, no, no, it's more it's more like Alice in Chains,

like Nirvana stuff, maybe a little Weezer in there.

Yeah, you know, you know, that kind of 90s alt stuff.

I really just blue album or Pinkerton go.

I like blue album all day.

I mean, it is better, but Pinkerton rules as well.

Yeah, Pinkerton's good, but blue albums, this shit.

That's a good album.

No, it's just that's that's the kind of stuff I listen to.

But yeah, it's it's it alternates between heavy and that.

And then like sometimes I'll just throw on some like jazz,

like old classic jazz and just relax and like experimental, crazy shit.

Or like just like regular like just regular jazz.

I keep experimental for my my drugs and sexual activities.

Mind you. Yeah.

And it's combined.

You combine all of that.

Yeah, yeah, like really crazy, like avant-garde jazz

from like from like the the 60s and weird

like positions with like masks and on God,

what's like Crocodile or some bonkers drug?

Yeah, exactly.

That's what is it Tuesday already?

But no, it's that's OK.

It's going to get it's going to get weird real quick here.

Time runs out.

No, that's that's pretty much what I'll do is just

you know, I try to match the mood of the driving.

Like if I'm if I'm really trying to get somewhere,

the I like to have a better tempo, better beat,

something a little more heavy if you ever listened to anything on a rally.

You know, so this time I did because this is like one of the first times

where I have like the want to like listen to it

because there's a couple sections that were kind of like in between.

When I was getting on it, no music because I've got to hear.

Yeah, I feel like ten tenths, which I try not to be ever.

But like I had to I kind of get sucked

into the ten tenths, I think I'm that rally fever.

It's my thing, man.

But it's this time I did because I had a good system

where I could magnet my phone to the thing and listen to music

through the Bluetooth, which was super sweet.

And I did I did listen to some tunes and it was cool.

It was really cool, man.

Like I don't really listen to electronic music,

but I could see how that would work with a rally,

especially if you're just like cruising.

You have a good good tempo going.

But yeah, just I don't know, man.

It was cool. I listen to some tunes.

But yeah, when I'm really getting on it now, I like to I got to hear

when my tires let go and I'm about to, yeah, get myself off a cliff.

Right. Yeah.

If I'm just going like, yeah, seven, eight tenths,

which is kind of where I like to live.

Like I don't like to look too dangerously.

But like, yeah, like I've got some go to like I'll listen to a lot of.

Like run the jewels, which is yeah, that's pretty good.

Pretty good. So run the jewels and like Aesop.

Aesop Rock. Yes.

So some some good, you know, some good pseudo independent hip hop.

Or yeah, and then like others.

Yeah, some more like alternative shit.

What was I listening to?

I was in the for a little bit of a run in the

Sprint Turbo.

I was just like, you know what?

I haven't listened to Battle of Los Angeles.

Rage against a machine.

It's a good album.

And yeah, that that I'm fucking rules and it was great.

It was great, dude.

So no, no Atari teenage riot when you're like trying to cruise slowly.

Yeah. Nothing. Nothing too crazy.

No teenage dirt bag by by.

God, who was that?

That was started with the W. What was that band's name?

Wee. Wee.

Not Winger.

Who? Yeah.

She was only 17.

I mean, that works, right?

Like if you're driving like a

little bit like a cutlass Supreme or something, that'd be a perfect song for it.

Yeah, yeah.

And there are there are some cars I feel like where it fits.

Oh, we should do this.

It fits like we should do this Monte Carlo.

What do you listen to?

What what generation Monte Carlo?

The shitty one.

Like the the the the the last generation one.

Yeah, like the pre-face lift.

Yeah, last generation one.

God, in fleet white wheel covers.

Oof, probably.

A chronic 2001, but it's on a scratched CD.

So it skips a bunch.

OK, fair. Yeah, that's a good one.

Yeah, I would go in that direction.

OK, let me let me let me send one your way.

Oh, how about a.

Nineteen ninety BMW seven forty I L.

Oh, so you thirty two.

Maybe some you be forty.

Oh, OK, some red red wine.

Yeah, that kind of fits with that.

Or yeah, that's a good one.

Yeah, I'm going to stick with that one.

I'm going to go you before you know I can see that.

I did one of the very first cars I sold on cars

and bids was a donated similar era seven series

and it had in it in the glove box was

like the original like owner's manual on cassette tape.

That's killer you can like listen to.

That I should there was a directory on it where you're like,

oh, yeah, speed it up to the whatever it's minute mark on the tape.

Oh, or to learn about like how to use your power windows

or like changing your oil or like some basic

I think it was basically how to use shit.

But yeah, I thought that was kind of clever.

And so like during my video, I was like, I'm going to put this tape in

and we're going to walk around the car listening to the owner's manual

while we're like showing that the sunroof works and shit.

One entire side of the tape is addressing oil leaks.

Yeah, how to know when to replace your engine due to timing chain failure.

Oh, God, dude.

How about purchasing?

How about I think this might be too easy, but let's go Camaro, Iraq.

Oh, um, owning it today or owning it in period.

In general, what me?

What soundtrack goes to that car today?

I rock guy.

I mean, start your heart.

Can you start your heart is there?

I mean, I was about to say like really,

any model crew or hair, hair metal band is pretty.

Oh, Panama Van Halen.

Dude, that song, that song still fucks me up.

If I'm driving because of Gran Turismo, was it Gran Turismo four?

I think it was four.

Yeah, so what's that kick?

That's so I have a you listen to Spotify at all.

Yeah, I do.

But I don't have the Apple iTunes, which kind of because it comes

in a social only because it comes free with my Verizon, which I hate

Verizon, so I'm probably going to not even an Apple guy.

So it's so weird, bro.

No, but it was free.

So I prefer free, but I used to have the paid Spotify.

Now I have the freebie version.

So I have a Spotify playlist for and I use free everything.

As you know, I'm the cheapest guy you've ever met.

I am so cheap about everything.

I do have a Spotify playlist called Dive Bars and I have to share

with you because Panama's on there.

There's some other pretty killer tracks and it just it just works.

They're my favorite jukebox at a dive bar songs.

Did I ever did I ever show you the the the Felatio mix?

Oh, it's it's not for like the video or the music.

Boner James 1995 or whatever.

No, it's it's a playlist.

I made a Spotify playlist.

Thank God, I haven't owned me fans.

Yeah, no, no, no, not the only fans.

Yeah, the obligatory mention right there.

Exactly. Yeah. One day.

No, I made a I made a Spotify playlist called the Felatio mix.

And no, it's not for listening while engaging in either end of that activity.

Dude, time out, time out.

If you're present, if you're if you're providing

Felatio and singing a song at the same time, that would be.

Sorry, just that's what I pictured.

Is that a song? Fair enough.

I probably everything's a song that she said.

And it was about that's kind of what it was.

Yes, exactly. No, it's it's a it's a playlist

with songs in every song is about.

Oh, in some form or fashion.

So there's which there's a lot.

There's that like you spin me right round song.

There's a E40 has a song simply called Give Me Head.

Fair and it's it's actually relatively gross.

It's I mean, they're all like not they're all like not like above board, right?

They're not exactly high brow kind of going in with the expectation of that.

Yeah, but like it's like you.

Yeah, it's like talking about busting in her hair.

And I was like, God, like excuse me, Mr. 40.

Like I don't why?

Yeah. Yeah. And boy, how did we get on to this on to this?

Oh, you made a playlist.

I also made a playlist.

Unfortunately, it's a very different playlist.

I think it's I think it's like nine or 10 songs on it.

It feels like a lot for the subject matter, honestly.

What else is a blow job Betty by Too Short is on that.

There's as it turns out, very few

like Christian rock songs on the subject, which I think needs to change.

Wow. That's it.

Like that needs to be.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, we yeah.

Jesus died for your sins.

Get get down on that.

Get down on that shit.

Yeah. Yeah, I just so yeah, that's the only play.

I'll send that one to you.

We'll have a playlist exchange and you can listen to it while driving.

Yeah, have you have you ever did you ever fuck around with subwoofers?

Just poorly.

Sure. Like lots of plywood

applications, lots of not properly connected to the vehicle in any safe manner.

Oh, yeah, it's always just sliding around fucking slamming around, dude.

Not proper sound insulation, because again,

shit box life, right?

Everything vibrated.

I've that wasn't a big sub guy, but it was fun.

It is fun to play around with.

But what's fun about it is you were such a menace.

How loud we had radios at times.

And today you would never think about doing that.

But then you hear and then someone pulls up to you in traffic

and you're like that son of a bitch.

Yeah, yeah, there's I feel like it's old.

It's it seems like it's a lot more rare now than what it used to be.

Like people just like absolutely like DB dragging

like while they're like cruising down the main the main street.

I almost feel like I hear a lot of music out of motorcycles

more now than I do out of cars, which is crazy.

Yeah, you still get some good license plate like resonance.

You know, boom, boom.

Yeah, it sounded like a gorilla trying to get out that trunk.

I remember. Oh, wow, this is one I don't I.

So I had a I had a claim.

Where guy got like.

Lightly rear ended like really lightly.

This is back when I was doing insurance shit.

Wish I was that guy, dude.

Yeah, likely rear ended.

Oh, well, that's a different play list.

I'll make I'll make a mix for that pop and poppers.

But no, the the it was like a light rear end, right?

So like scratch on the bumper.

But then it's like, yeah, but like it happened.

He's like, it happened like, I don't know, six months ago.

But like, I didn't.

So I didn't think it was that big a deal.

But now my trunk won't close and it's got to be from the accident.

Like it's loose and it's all like it's all, I don't know,

something it damaged the structure on the rear body panel

where you shut the trunk.

I think that's weird.

And it's a it was a Chrysler 300.

Like the, you know, it's like an oath, whatever.

Oh, five Chrysler 300, of course.

And he had he had a subwoofer box in it,

but he took it out to like try and troubleshoot it.

And I look and all of the metal

around the the striker where the latch

for the trunk comes down and grabs onto.

Mm hmm.

Is like shattered like spider webbed.

Like just like crack cracking around it,

like down the inside of the body panel.

Holy shit.

And like, what the fuck?

And I'm looking and like, it's like stress around the latch

on the trunk lid and everything too.

And I'm looking, I'm like, hey, you had a like,

can I see this subwoofer?

And I'm looking at this is like monster setup.

Dude, that's like a huge box in there.

I don't I don't know if his his loved one

also has a huge box, but I hope so subwoofer box.

And what what happened was it was it was unrelated to the rear bumper.

But dude, I just been.

Mm hmm.

This thing.

All day, every day.

God, three years and it actually metal

like the pressure wave from this box, metal fatigued

the rear body panel to wear it just like the where the.

The striker for the latches bolted down to the panel all around it.

Was just like metal fatigued and cracked

and like it chunked, it just broke a square

like a playing card size square of the metal,

the sheet metal just off and it was all cracked around it.

And it was just gone like, wow, bro.

You just totaled your car with your subwoofer.

That's a sick system, dude.

Yeah. So it was like, well, good news, bad news.

Like it's not related to that rear end accident.

But you have comprehensive coverage.

I think this is like probably maybe I don't know like file a claim

and we'll maybe cover it, but maybe we'll deny it because I don't know.

It's not like, would you consider that mechanical failure?

Which I mean, it's not vandalism.

Is it? I don't know if they did.

It's not. I don't know.

I don't know what it would be.

So I just file a claim.

We might deny it, but like, I don't know.

See what the fuck happens.

But yeah, your shit's like you probably just take it to some fly by

night place and they'll weld it up for you.

But like, don't use that anymore.

Yeah, just stop.

Yeah, nice.

Any other parting thoughts on music?

I will say just really quick.

I kind of maybe want to get back into

driving excitedly with good music on just recreationally.

I feel like I've gotten away from it, which sucks.

And then back on to maybe having a more fun daily driver to do that in.

But that's a different story for a different day.

A good good road trip soundtrack is also pretty cool.

So I'd love to do that again.

It's harder with kids, right?

Because you can't just be blasting good music.

But like, yeah, maybe like a I mean, you can.

But I mean, drown out their cries for help with music.

No, it's that's a that's a good thing, too.

I used to love music on long drives.

But yeah, dude, we should we should make an effort to like get back

into driving music. Speaking of playlists,

should we should we make an APA pod driving playlist?

It's going to be horrible, but we should.

It's going to be horrible.

No, what we have to do is we have to make it like.

For every three good songs that are like, oh, yeah.

Oh, this is a great song to like listen to on a drive.

Then there's like one that will just be like my neck, my back

or just like pure noise.

Yeah, like Yoko Ono.

Number one, like that.

Exactly.

So yeah, but we'll make that might be that might be a thing.

Nice. Y'all's posted.

Yeah, it was a good topic, Ben.

Should we should we segue into a little thing

we like to call the automotive print ad quiz game?

And when you say segue, do you mean invented two wheeled device

and then drive it off a cliff?

I absolutely mean that way. Yes.

OK, tell the people I'm going to not be looking at the last year

that we made CD players in cars.

I'm going to find an ad and you're going to tell

the people what the hell we're doing.

Yeah, do your worst as you usually do.

This is our automotive print ad quiz game, guys.

What we do is we find an advertisement for a vehicle

80s, 90s, mid 2000s, all fair game.

I will get three guesses after Frank reads to that ad.

He's going to be very careful.

He's pretty good.

We haven't messed up in a while, man.

It's been a minute.

He's going to omit anything that gives it away.

Any identifiers, any specifics?

We have slipped up.

It happens.

But I get again, three guesses.

I can ask for a lifeline or some help after I miss.

It won't happen.

Going to go perfect on this one, doubtful who knows.

Ten minutes on the clock.

Frank, roll that beautiful bean footage.

Oh, hold on. Oh, God. OK.

Sorry, I clicked the button and the ad went away.

OK, so this is a single pager. OK.

We have most of the car in the photo in the top

and then the entirety of another car.

That is not the car we're guessing.

That one is a race car.

It's on like it's in the rain.

It's it's behind it's in like the background.

You see that entire vehicle and then you see like the

looking dead on the front of our car

and you see like 60 percent of it just right on the right on the front.

Underneath it says the 1990 World Champion blank is history.

It's V8 lives on.

Weaving an unprecedented string of 15 wins in 17 races from 1989 through 1990.

Blank claimed the World Sports Prototype Championship in 1990 for a second consecutive year.

Powering the victorious duo of C-11 Silver Arrows

and the World Championship in 1999.

The world champion of the 1990 World Championship.

Powering the victorious duo of C-11 Silver Arrows

was a five liter V8 that blended 700

thundering horsepower with the reliability of a blank.

Outracing and outlasting the fastest competition the automotive world can muster

from its rugged, lightweight, hyper eutectic aluminum block

to its free breathing 32 valve cylinder head.

That same basic five liter V8 design is still potent

but considerably tamer in blank form.

As placid as a milpond.

All but in out in auto.

Sorry, God, normal speeds.

Indeed, it is an engine so thoughtfully

civilized as to normally go all but unnoticed.

So perhaps the blank V8

should thank the 1990 World Championship.

Sorry, the 1990 World Champion V8 for making it famous.

For more information on blank engineering leadership,

call 1-800-468-4001 any time.

Any time. Apparently, it's 24 hours.

55 days a year or visit your authorized blank dealer.

Chadwick.

What do you think about this ad?

First off, cool ad.

Yeah, it's rare we get to like, you know, we talk about it now

with some regularity about like, there's no tech specs in ads anymore.

How about it? How about dropping a hyper eutectic?

Yeah, or like a racing heritage, like a qualified racing heritage.

Yeah.

One word, like immediately identified what this car was

or one phrase, Silver Arrow, if you know anything about race cars

or anything like that, that's what immediately drew me in.

I kind of knew what direction you were going.

It feels very European, very German.

Sure.

I almost blank that out because I thought maybe it would be too much.

You probably should have that one, like that was the thing.

But it's a great ad.

I do have a follow up question for you about this manufacturer's race cars

and see which one is your favorite.

But a little grand Turismo action out of this one, I think, right?

Or the follow up act.

But anyway, this is based on a Mercedes race car, that five liter V8.

You don't get the same power in this car, but this is going to be.

This is before the Sauber car.

So this is a.

We're guessing the street car, by the way, not the yes, yes.

No, I know the race car, the Silver Arrow final answer.

500 SL.

This is an 86 final answer.

Oh, boy.

I think I technically have to say no.

OK.

Because the year is wrong enough to where it's an entire

generation, you're off by an entire generation.

OK.

So.

So no.

So I'll take a ninety one final answer.

Yeah.

I mean, considering the ad was talking about the 1990 championship,

oh, probably not before that.

It's some time.

Yeah, it's from the future.

It is this is the 1990 or actually doesn't say, let's see.

I suppose it's that part of it.

I suppose it's nine nineteen.

No, it's ninety one.

There's like a little tiny.

So it isn't.

It's a nineteen ninety one thing Mercedes 500 SL.

Let me send you a link to it.

So yeah, this is R 129 because 86 would have been R 107.

Yes, which we didn't get the 500 SL, but it would have been.

It could have been a green market if you imported it,

because that was the Euro Euro's so trash spec.

Silver Arrow, obviously a very, a very winning car.

Let me change that.

Oh, that's killer, dude.

Yeah, it's cool.

That's a great ad.

I like the layout a lot.

Yeah, it's fun.

So my question to you, you get you get your choice.

Do you go with the Silver Arrow, like in this advertisement,

which looks fantastic, by the way, it's a good shot, or the Sauber Mercedes race car?

The Sauber is fucking cool.

I mean, this thing is so with that like huge bubble top.

And what the Sauber was a couple.

It wasn't it wasn't current with this.

Was it a couple of years earlier?

I don't remember this.

I think the Sauber came later after.

I think it was a mid nineties, right?

Sauber, Mercedes, Mercedes, it's good, though.

This is 97 or 87.

OK, so maybe earlier.

It was just yeah, it was just before.

But I don't know if they did.

Yeah, and then it was continued.

It was the C9 and then it was replaced by this car, which is the C11.

Yes.

I think I like the Sauber more, which was a very low slung, long race car.

Yeah, I want to say I had like.

I mean, they look pretty similar.

They're all fucking cool.

They look so cool.

It didn't have as much of a bubble.

I almost thought about just saying C11s and not saying.

Oh, the silver silver arrow.

You think you would have been able to navigate it just off the C11?

That's pretty obscure.

I'm not real.

I'm not the race car stuff personally, but like.

Yeah, I'm looking at the Sauber right now.

I like it way more.

Yeah, it's cool.

Yeah, it's going like that.

Yeah, yeah, I mean, they're they're all really cool.

But I think like the Sauber just a little bit more.

All right, dude, you got that money gun?

Yeah, let's see if the battery is still good in it.

You were you were using it all weekend.

Recreationally, you do not smell these dollar bills.

All right, let's go, boys.

Oh, come on.

Oh, no signs of light.

I don't think it's going to work.

I need to switch the batteries out.

Oh, man. Make it rain.

I wonder if that's why it ended up in the the Goodwill.

I'll take it.

I can I can obviously put a couple of double A's in there and make it.

Make it rain.

If you put a if you rewire to a nine volt to like we'll just like crank up the speed.

It'll fucking paper cut your face off, dude.

Yeah, a man died today.

Good ad, dude.

I can't believe we haven't done a 500 SL yet.

I know I had to.

That's why I was like, I need to get the I don't.

Yeah, I would have thought we would have had.

We would have it wasn't on the list that I saw.

Good, which me does probably definitely on there.

But either way, whatever.

Fantastic.

How would you like to celebrate, sir?

My drug of choice is PCP, Project Car Progress.

And I haven't done shit really.

Same.

Like we could probably almost skip this.

I just haven't any time.

I shot a review today was the first like car thing I've done in a while.

Yeah.

And that's pretty timely affair because you got to get the car prepped.

I got to pack all my cameras, set up all the go pros.

The the what it was what I can't even think right now.

The the speed thing that measures time and velocity.

Block. Yeah.

Mike, whatever it's called, I have a piece of equipment that measures.

I'm a sort of GTEC.

You remember those?

The GTEC, dude, I do remember those GTEC pro.

I had I didn't have one.

But like I had a friend who had one.

It was like his brothers.

And so we all were like the GTEC.

GTECing our cars to like try and see who can put down the best numbers.

I remember my barracuda with the three the 318 and it ran a 15 six.

I thought it was like, oh, shit.

That's not horrible.

Yeah, horrible.

I thought so, but yeah, on an unapproved racing surface.

That's pretty cool. Yeah.

No, yeah, I haven't done anything besides that, which I'm excited about.

It was a fun time in the canyons.

That V 50 is so impressive, dude.

It's just it's so like normal car when you're driving it for the most part

until you really lean on it and it just really comes alive.

Like the handling mods, just getting the ass to break loose.

Like I got to check my GoPro footage as soon as we get off of here,

because I wish it was right in front of one of my cameras.

But getting the back to slide around in the canyons on a fucking wagon.

That's mostly a front wheel drive biased Haldex system.

Killer feeling to good.

And like not even a little bit like out of out of its comfort zone.

It was very, very easy to control.

So yeah, not much, man.

I'll just pass it to you.

Uh, yeah.

The only thing I've done was take pictures of your car,

which we did today.

So, um, yeah, I mean, I haven't really, I haven't been able to.

I think and I mean, this like only half joking.

I kind of feel like I've got like a little bit of like sad, the seasonal

whatever, effective disorder where like, like during the winter, I've like,

I just like feel shittier, like way less motivated to get anything done,

which is not good. That's not it. This is not it. It's not a perk.

Yeah, I know.

I don't know. I need to get one of those lamps that like make it look like

it's like daylight. It's been so foggy and just like overcast and grim

for like the last month. True. Yeah.

That it's just I've been unmotivated.

I need to get off my ass. I need to do that.

Maybe tomorrow, I don't know.

I also have some like gifts to buy and it's like the last fucking minute.

Yeah, dude, no one has no one has like spare time.

Like the holidays are here.

Like the weather sucks.

Balls, dude.

And like you said, it's like miserable outside.

You don't want to be under a car.

No, I need a lift.

I mean, maybe maybe I'll get one for Festivus.

I don't know. Oh, you put a mini split in there in a lift

and you're never coming out. Yeah, exactly.

This will be my grave.

Yeah. Cool.

Well, hopefully this will become my grave.

Hopefully this will become your grave.

And by that, I mean, you'll you'll I don't know what I mean by that.

That doesn't make sense.

But you've made it this far and you haven't died.

So congratulations are in order.

Thank you, friends.

Please keep listening.

I eventually we're going to do the things we keep telling you we're going to do,

which is like have on guests and and and perks and and and a Patreon and stuff.

We haven't forgotten about you. We promise.

So keep doing what you're doing.

Tell your friends, hide your kids, hide your wife,

bug us on our nearly abandoned Instagram, which is at APA podcast on the gram.

If you are viewing this and you would like to view this versus listen to this.

Hi, check it out on the YouTube.

If you want to stalk me, you shouldn't, but you could.

That's going to be at the photographer's garage.

I almost forgot.

Wow, we're on tonight.

It is. We are on one.

Are you on one? Where can people stalk you?

Did I'm on one auto obscure garage on YouTube for your rescues,

restorations and reviews? Dude, I haven't put content up for three weeks.

I am legally dead, according to YouTube's algorithm.

So yeah, yeah, I wonder though, I wonder if you if you disappear for a while

and then like come back, do you think they will reward you for that

by giving like boosting your shit and get the opposite reviews?

I've taken like a couple of times.

I've taken like six months sabbaticals and it's the opposite.

You got to claw your way back up.

So unfortunately, yeah, dude, it's a it's a it's a violent way of life.

But yeah, yeah, you're going to do.

I just a PCP is what we're going to do.

So we did. I'm glad we've we've done it.

Maybe we'll do more. We need to do more. Right.

Yeah, we're lazy.

We have so many projects.

Maybe this is what we need.

Dear listener intervention, just right.

Even like wait until like 2 a.m.

And if you happen to have one of our phone numbers, just text us

and be like, you're slipping like do work on cars

so we can get out from under our workload.

Yeah, guilt trip us.

It's effective and and yeah.

And you should also guilt trip your friends and loved ones to listen to this podcast.

So for those of you who are doing it, thank you.

Please tune in next week.

Yeah, Merry Christmas.

Happy holidays. This drops Christmas Eve, right?

It will drop Christmas Eve.

Oh, right. I'm glad we were not thematic at all.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

I mean, oh, well, my favorite music to listen to while driving is Christmas music.

Jingle balls.

Yeah, exactly.

So either way, hot take to send us off.

Christmas music is not music.

It's merely seasonal ambiance and I will die on this hill.

Goodbye. Bombs are dropped.

All right. See you guys. Take care over back then. Bye.

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