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Episode 93: The future e208, forgotten EVs, and the grant punch-up

Episode 93: The future e208, forgotten EVs, and the grant punch-up

The Kilowatt Half Hour Nov 24, 2025 43 min
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Dive into discussions about Peugeot's innovative Polygon concept with no touchscreens, MG's expanding electric lineup including the new S6 and upcoming seven-seat S9 plug-in hybrid, and the surprising value of Citroen's EC5 with over 400 miles range. The hosts also explore the impact of government grants on models like the Nissan Leaf and Ford Puma Gen E, debate the trend of ultra-fast EVs, and share thoughts on voice control tech and subscription-based driver assistance. Plus, they highlight forgotten EVs like the IONIQ 5 and BYD Dolphin, and preview Jeep's rugged electric Recon for the US market.

Topics: peugeot polygon concept mg electric vehicles citroen ec5 value nissan leaf grant ford puma gen e voice control in cars subscription driver assistance forgotten electric cars jeep electric recon ev performance trends
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Peugeot 208
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Peugeot 208

"... of stuff in there. So this is basically the next Peugeot 208. And it's also giving us a lot of design cues on ..."
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Mercedes-Benz EQB
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Mercedes-Benz EQB

"...when it goes too far because I think the new Merc EQB is it? You see the pictures of that and it's like..."
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MG4 Electric Mg
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MG4 Electric Mg

"... quite popular because I mean, it's just a bigger electric MG, isn't it? So you've got range of, you know, arou..."
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Audi S5
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Audi S5

".... So inevitably, the S6 is very similar to the MG S5, isn't it? Do we think that Audi has got any thou..."
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Audi S6
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Audi S6

"... its interior quality as well. So inevitably, the S6 is very similar to the MG S5, isn't it? Do we thi..."
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Alfa Romeo Milano
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Alfa Romeo Milano

"... change the name of the junior because it was the Milano, wasn't it? And then they had to change it to the..."
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Volvo S40
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Volvo S40

"...e in Italy. Yeah. Well, do you remember the Volvo S40, which was a thing in the late 90s? That one out ..."
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Chevrolet C10
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Chevrolet C10

"...ot even obviously, you know, you get a Leap Motor C10, which is even bigger than a MG S6 for the same m..."
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BMW X5
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BMW X5

"...ow, well, Ginny drove that Geely, didn't she, the X5 recently? So that looks like good value, all of t..."
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C10 Leapmoto
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C10 Leapmoto

"...hat as much as say, I mean, certainly speaking of LeapMoto, their assistance systems in any car I've tried s..."
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C4 Ec4
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C4 Ec4

"...ed last week briefly that I've just had a Citroen EC4 delivered, which is a car that we'd forgotten abo..."
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Nissan Leaf
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Nissan Leaf

"...at it and thought, that looks like the new Nissan Leaf for a start. And I drove it and thought, this is ..."
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Ford Mustang
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Ford Mustang

"...4 is one of those. Yeah. I was thinking about the Mustang Mach-E the other day, which I actually still quit..."
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Kia Sorento
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Kia Sorento

"...ing to arrive at stuff like the Peugeot 5008, Kia Sorento, that kind of thing. I hope they bring an electri..."
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Peugeot 5008
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Peugeot 5008

"...ric one, because I do think, I mean, the electric 5008s are fantastic, seven-seater. And I don't know why..."
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Ford Puma
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Ford Puma

"...ay, talking of successful electric cars, the Ford Puma, Gen E, which is, of course, another car which ge..."
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Jeep Recon
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Jeep Recon

"... been out. She's sort of found out about the Jeep Recon. The new Jeep Recon has been announced in America..."
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Wrangler Rubicon
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Wrangler Rubicon

"...t know about such things. Yes. Yeah, exactly. The Rubicon Trail, that's the name. I knew I'd forgotten what..."
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Hyundai Ioniq 5
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Hyundai Ioniq 5

"...can. But also another forgotten electric car, the IONIQ 5. I'm the IONIQ 5. I haven't forgotten it. I still..."
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Volkswagen Id
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Volkswagen Id

"...out wishing to be predictable here. How much is a Volkswagen ID 7? Because I'd probably have that over a high in ..."
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Nissan Not Nissan
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Nissan Not Nissan

"I had to guess, you see. So lots of the listeners guessed the same as I did, which was that it was Nissan. And it's not... Nissan is nowhere near. And it's not the Koreans, they're nowhere near either. So the final one, so, well, the full lowdown is... Do you want to..."
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Volkswagen Go Volkswagen
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Volkswagen Go Volkswagen

"So obviously Tesla, MG, probably Volkswagen. Volkswagen is the one that we didn't have last week. Yes. Yeah. There you go. There you go. Volkswagen and... Oh, I don't know. I would... Has Audi... No, probably not Audi. Same country. It's going to be... It's BMW,"
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BMW i3
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BMW i3

"...be BMW. BMW, yeah. I wonder what is big... Is the i3 still... It's the original i3, I mean, obviously,..."
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BMW i3s
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BMW i3s

"...'s big. I suppose they had a long time of selling i3s and then they've got all the new ones as well, ha..."
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Dodge Avenger
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Dodge Avenger

"...6. Yes, exactly. Can you explain why the new Jeep Avenger 4XE, actually four-wheel drive, is a hybrid? Is i..."
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Chevrolet Volt
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Chevrolet Volt

"...ong time before that, I take it. Oh, it's not the Volt, is it? The Vauxhall Ampere and Chevy Volt? No, b..."
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Zeekr Zika 7X
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Zeekr Zika 7X

"...better. So I was doing updating the review on the Zika 7X because I drove that not long ago for a European ..."
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Tesla Model Y
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Tesla Model Y

"...ng to the UK 2027 is the intention. The 7X is the model Y rival and the top spec all wheel drive one. It's ..."
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