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And because there's not a supercar, there is.

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two letters A&U. Long live my Ltd.

Welcome to Carter Gets Tuesday night here in 98.9 NW FM.

I'm in studio with Tyrone Cabrel online with David Prince and Mr Edward Bunting. How are you, gentlemen?

Good evening all. Very well indeed.

Thank you always good to hear, good to hear busy week for for everybody as it normally is looking at tax threes not buying TX threes so which which which was which was quite interesting.

Tyrone your you've got more winning plans happening on the on the way. No, yeah.

Yeah, a lot of planning at the moment.

So yeah, it's a busy time. Busy time.

You can't get my head around this, Tyrone.

Are you just upset you missed Edward?

You are a little bit, yeah. Well, you know, I had my chance,

but it's also like. Just, you know, how quick it's,

you know, like I could, I could go a decade and not meet anyone that I thought was suitable. And Tyrone met two people in

that time that is suitable. It's Dang, you know, Maybe I'm

too fussy. Maybe you've got no standards.

Maybe, as we discussed last week.

Maybe. Yeah, I gave this morning.

Actually, it's all about the beard.

Bunting all about the beard. Yeah, right.

I'll just keep being depressed next.

Let's get started. Here is there a date.

Yes, there is a possible date next year in Feb.

Nice. Nice time of year.

Yeah, good. Yeah, I think the more important

question is what cars we thinking for the.

OHS Yeah, What? Yeah, look, it's.

It's just going to be limos, Oregon.

Um, I'm not going. Anything.

What are those Hummer limos? They're so not classy, they look

awful. Well, they're the only ones that

fit like 18 people. Come on, you're better than

that. Get glassy limo.

Look what? You're rolling something.

Look. Like anything that's not a

Hummer. Nobody.

Knows. Broncos Yeah, I'll probably not

get married then. Who's gonna bins limo if you

could. Or a Bentley.

A Bentley or a Benz limo. Or a Rolls limo.

That's classy. Hummer.

No, classy. I'd rather get Ubers than a

Hummer. What about Ltd Ltd Summers?

I'd even go on Ltd over a hammer and that's saying something.

I will say, say what we can, yeah, what we can come up with, but yeah. Yeah, so that's.

That's not make it the last weekend in February.

Cause we're hearing Adelaide, aren't we David?

Yes, Matthew, we are. Yes, Yes, we are.

The last weekend was that. All the 23rd and 4th or.

Something 24th. No, no, it won't be.

We'll be before that. Just chicken.

Yeah, we have a lovely seaside does need to arrange.

One calendar in advance to these events.

Did you go the first year, Matt to I I didn't I that's I think.

I don't like that, Percy. We're talking, by the way,

listeners, about going across to the Adelaide Classic Japan car show, which David, don't give me, Tom.

There was someone else. Michael Henley.

Oh, Henley, that's the other one.

Homeliest. Yes.

Yeah. So four of us went over for

that. We stacked and we went to the

Ballarat swap meet on the way then, which was very good.

Yeah, that was great. But they don't do that anymore.

No more, no more. We all got to have a great time

and might not be. Repeated Weird because it's such

a huge swap meet like it's makers of car parts.

Yeah. Heard about it's it's huge.

Yeah. But a lot of them are the same

car parts, David and I. Discovered there were there are

a lot of Gemini hubcaps and. Hz Holden tail lights And it's

just like we still had a few bratty things and they're all these just ratty Holden parts. But you said it was quite a good

hobby, though I had a lot of other stuff too.

Yeah, I bought a handful of things there.

There were some interesting things there.

You would have captured the caravan.

It and Tommy we bought, I bought him that president of the Range Rover Diagnostics thing, which is a yes, getting a lot of use.

Yeah, for a while I bought a few model cars.

I think I bought a brand new Terrago badge in its plastic.

You know, never used. That was cool.

Maybe I said no, it was, it was good, but it's overwhelmingly huge. So anyway, they don't do that.

So next year we won't be doing that we're just going straight to Adelaide. What colours we taking.

I was thinking of taking the MR2 but I don't know if you guys wanted to take do your do your trip from from 30 years ago Mr Mr Prince in there. We'd have to take five days to

get there and go via. And all those different places,

really. Yeah, actually it would be, it

would be nearly 30. No, it's not 30 years quite.

In the year after will be 30 years since we did that.

So yeah, well, I think for the, that'll be the one.

Lane for that one for 3030 years, I think for the 30th year we should, we should definitely do that now that.

Will be. That will actually mean that the

year after that's 30 years of the Grand Prix in Melbourne at Albert. Wow.

That's. Nice.

That's extended that I think for another 8 or 10 I heard.

OK, well 95 was the last year in Adelaide, so.

Right, right, right. Yeah, we can decide what cars to

take, you know, I'm thinking Honda City maybe this time around for me, and then we can all do scamps for the 30th year of David's David. 'S starting with Scamp Camp

later in the year and then we'll then we'll yeah, that'll be the test run for the big event, mind you, right.

You know I uploaded the now my money money should design and you know the the which which which I was alluding to last week about you know gift for everybody.

So it was it was it was a scam camp in vertical miss T shirt that you can, that you can play and it was basically basically compute features now 3 scams on there and I'll put it on.

I called it scam camp and you know for all you lovers of, you know, N three 60s and N6 hundreds, I get an email about 20 minutes. Out.

Well, all of us are on the call, Matt.

There's no one else get an email like legit 20 minutes later saying it's been taken out for offensive content.

Oh and I'm like I'm like what do you mean taking down for offensive content And and I, I, I Google the word scant means and it's not even that bad like I'm I'm like I'm like it's an American side so they're like all that that that that's not kosher. Sorry guys So so basically they

took it down. They took it down.

What does it mean? It's like it's just like a

little Rascal kind of thing like that.

That's actually what. Camp is like a naughty sort of

mischievous elf or something. Yeah, yeah, it was.

It was like offensive content. So Oh my, I'm going to I'm going

to re upload it and not call this game.

I was gonna call it N 360 N 600 T shirt.

Appreciate Society Appreciation Society.

Where would did you upload it to Matt?

To Lt Spring store? Which Which was?

Which is is that an American hosted him to make him to to shoot but but you said you said there's a place we can get him from here anyway that we can we can definitely sort out.

So, Oh yeah, absolutely. So we'll, we'll aim for that.

But yeah, I'll just just just just thought, I'll tell you guys, I thought that was a bit was a bit weird.

Well, this show is cutting edge, isn't it?

Really. I mean it's.

Like out there. Scamp.

Yeah, I I couldn't believe it was for offensive content.

I'm like, what's? Like the word minx.

Like a bit naughty, mischievous, mischievous.

You know, I mean someone who but like minx is is is is more, you know, risque than than scamp like possible.

It's just like that that that was for me made no sense.

But anyway, welcome to PG13 America.

So. Yeah but anyway unbelievable.

But anyway so yeah I'm thinking of taking the two next year I think that would be I think that'd be a fun run I think it would be good to I've never done done many long distance drives in that yet so so that'll be that'll be a nice way to to break it in I've got good working air con so I'll be I'll be fine I'll I'll be I'll be happy So yeah that that would be very very good. Just take out our CV.

Oh, I. Have to cover OK I.

Maybe we need to go the long way across and do the Barossa.

Valley. I was going to say the Great

Ocean Road on the way across. Can do little bit of winery.

Doing the swap meet on the way. Or you could you could go a bit

longer and take some scenic roads and and then.

Cut across. Yes.

See Well I did take the Forester like 2 times ago when like the the second last time before when I went to Adelaide, when I drove there. There's lots in the thing.

I went straight down Christmas Day, but the I took the scenic route with my sister when we went and we we did the greatest show in the Forester that was that was cracking and we went through Warner Ball, Mount, Gambier, it was it was lovely.

It was really, really lovely trip both and I really, really enjoyed it. So I think having some really

cool cars on that on that drive there would be would be pretty, pretty cool. So I'd be keen for that.

We're joined by Scotty as well. Scotty, how you doing?

I'm doing OK fellas. How's everyone else good mate,

Very, very good. We're just talking about next

year's Classic. Well, it's it's just all in

Adelaide. Imports.

Yep, another one. It gets huger every year.

Huger and huger. Huger and huger, yes.

So you gonna have to bring the the, the, the B4 Scotty and be drive it there and be all all good.

Let's get into some cut updates. Gentlemen.

Let's start with Mr Edward Bunting.

He's on the top left. Of my evening, Paul.

What have I done? Well, Barry Bellina has been

sold. This to a very nice.

You know mother and son combination who basically said I rang up and had a conversation that I want it here's a deposit didn't come and drive it didn't come and look at it literally said get the roadworthy and we'll come pick it up.

So they did. Wow.

It's a very easy sale which I was totally comfortable with that because the car was a glamour.

You know it was beautiful. So I sort of thought well

they're not going to get here and not like it.

It's one of the cleanest O2 Berliners you're ever going to find. So I think you know it's not

like they're they sort of wrong. Oh there's a scripture.

The scripture like they were wrapped with it you know as as I sort of knew they would be. So normally you'd.

I go well, hang on, come look at it first.

And. Yeah, that's right.

Make sure you're comfortable. But I was so comfortable with

that car that I thought they're not, they're not gonna be disappointed, so that's good. So I have no more stock at the

moment other than the Prado, but as mentioned previously, I'm going to hang on to that for a bit and then punt it next year after a trip up north. I've got a friend's Hyundai I30

that I'm just helping her sort out.

Her husband passed away and I'm helping her sell that.

So that's an O8I30 hatch, Essex, which is your base model?

In a manual in a 1.6 turbo diesel was done 160 Ki think I

mentioned it last week. It drives remarkably well that

car. You know there's no rattles and

squeaks and it's tight and it sort of feels almost better quality than a Corolla of the same period really.

And you know, yeah from all reports I sniff around on those cars and and it it seems like that they are a really good thing. You know they're petrol or

diesel manual auto. They they seem to be well

respected in the second industry.

So you know that's going to be like 6 grand ish.

And I thought, gosh, it's it's a it's a remarkably good car for that money. If you wanted a commuter, I

think those I 30s are better, better quality than the the same era Corolla like that. Yeah, it wasn't.

It wasn't a good. Car.

No, they weren't great. No they weren't great.

My and my friend who whose mum it is who has this car, she had one of those collars like an 07 and I drove that numerous times and I'd never liked it. The gear shift and the clutch

and the drive by wire throttle, whatever it was, it just wasn't smooth. It it didn't feel like a a good

Japanese car at all. Whereas this Sundays it's really

hard wearing their seat material and the door trims and everything feels. Good in it.

I like it. Were they were the diesels

Korean built, do you know, or European built because there are a few waggons? I didn't know any different.

But. Yeah.

I don't know, but yeah. Impressive little car.

For the money. So I'm getting a few things

done. Like I said a new screen.

I've just had it serviced. It will have a new drivers

mirror. The glasses come out so we'll

just get the glass replaced and what else am I doing to it or two rear tyres. I think that's all it needed for

roadie. It's actually got Veloster

wheels on it which are that dark charcoal colour.

So there are 17 I think originally the might have been a 15 and so the previous owners to to to my friends did that to it.

But it looks quite good at suits because it's a plain white car with the charcoal sort of Veloster wheel and it's got the black door handles being the base model.

So with the black handles and the dark wheels, it's sort of all ties in and. You know, gives it a bit of an

edge, I suppose, over a plain janer.

You've just gotta find someone running a manual diesel, and probably a lot of people don't think of I 30s as a manual diesel. No they don't.

I think. Yeah, auto petrol is where their

brain probably goes. Perfect car for someone up

country you know you just does highway KS and so economical and yeah I think great great for that anyway.

What sort of mileage do you have you been?

Have you noticed what mileage you're getting?

I I haven't because I haven't. I've only driven it a handful of

times, but reportedly they're in the fours, you know, and on a highway run. Need to be down 4.14 point two I

think. Yeah, well, it's pretty good.

And some manual diesels are sort of.

You know it doesn't suit the car because they're quite talky and you find yourself always changing gear and it's just not seamless. This this one, the ratios and

everything feel pretty good. So it's not a I didn't find it a

hard card to drive. Well, I just think, I don't know

from that era like, you know, like I think from the gets, the guess was like a big turning point car and we've discussed before on this show. Yeah, we like the guests, really

brought them into the 21st century in a lot of ways.

Guests were great to drive. There really are, there are

great car to drive actually. They like I I think of home

though. Pre gets, post gets.

And yeah, and in post gets. They're really good.

Post gets is is a good era. Definitely other car news.

I took the moke on Sunday morning to the the inner sanctum of Mocha. I'll call it so the Mocha owners

association. Australia have a sort of 6-8

weeks, every six, eight weeks they do a service day at one of the guys houses and he has a we stick in his backyard in his shed and all these parts and you know every tool you could imagine for Mokes. And so you rock up there and

basically they'll put it on the hoist and look over it for you and say oh you need this, you need that or you might want to change a ball joint or do something.

So those days are designed for sort of checking it out and maybe doing a bit of work depending on how labour intensive it is. So I was keen to take mine to

that day, being the first one I've been to, to get some other eyes on it. And just go, well, I've been

told it needs the front suspension and it needs this.

And I know it's got an oil leak and you know, is that actually the case and can you eyeball it? So it's interesting having, you

know, six or seven real diehard mop heads who've been doing this for 40 years plus crawling all over your car.

But I'm pleased to say the consensus was really original car, you know, by and large in very good condition.

All the things I sort of knew about that, you know, are what they mentioned. So the front suspension is

completely collapsed. It's on rubber cones.

So they need to be replaced all of the.

Which is in the links in the front end and everything needs to be replaced. There's not that many of them.

It's leaking oil from the diff. Yeah, where the Dr shafts go

into the diff, it's leaking or remain seals.

It will probably need the gearbox popped off and they have that done. The steering racks got playing

it, which I knew about. The exhaust, they sort of agreed

with what the mechanic guy said to me.

He said It's very hard to get the exhaust on those right, which sounds stupid because they're just basically a straight line straight out the back, you know?

Basically. Exactly appreciate.

And you think, how hard can it be to get that right?

But apparently when the engine sort of mounts A sagged and the suspensions not right and the engines not sitting exactly where it should, then that exhaust.

You sort of need to get all that right first before you can get the exhaust to line up perfectly.

And if it's not lined up perfectly, it'll leak from the flange at the bottom because it's it.

Doesn't sort of flex you know it's like a a curved join and unless that's 100% right and all the other stuff right it'll it'll leak from that flange and you can exhaust fluffy sound you know leaking from the front. So they said look 11 way to get

around is to put extractors on it in a flexible joint and then you won't have that issue and you get a bit better breathing and you know that's one way you can go.

So I I might look at doing that when I when I have this next round of works done. So yeah, that was, that was

good. That was interesting.

I met some interesting Moke people and you know, the cars that rocked up there were maybe six or seven Mokes there.

All up they are all very, very different.

You know, like they're all one was lime green.

It's got a bonnet scoop and big Chrome wheels and you know like they've all been doctored in in many ways over the years, couple of more original ones. But yeah, you won't, you won't

find too that are the same sort of thing which was good.

What else do we do? What else do?

I took the scampi down Saturday morning to the Honda Car Club.

Equivalent, I suppose that was good.

We saw a few people there and. That to my my my nephew Greg,

who's a key listener to the podcast Hello Message on Saturday afternoon saying I think I just saw it in the scam.

They give on it because he lives in Dingley.

So does he. Well, that would be me, yeah.

Driving, driving along. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they added.

Spotted. I think that's about it for

cars. That's what else.

I haven't bought anything else, sort of probably in the market for some of another stock car maybe.

So you know. Look, we've all got computers in

front of us by the end of the night, I'm sure.

Yeah. Find something.

Yeah, let's find something juicy, Fred to buy.

I've gotta be able to make money a lot though, so, you know, Absolutely, Mr Prince. Harry updates with me.

I've had good and I've had bad. So.

Where do we go first? Let's go.

Let's go bad. So the 77 Civic waggon that I've

had sitting outside the front of my house and I've fucked around with for many months now was a bit of a star at the 50th anniversary of the civic event. Um, had fiddle around done quite

a bit. Got it running.

Wheel bearings replaced. Replaced all the ignition

system. Mentana was the distributor

which is now now sorted. Noticed last time I started or

drove it there was no cooling. I thought well little bit

strange because that was one thing that when I picked that car up it had bright green corn, nice radiator.

Anyway, Long story short, I pulled the dipstick out and it was looked a bit like a caramel latte in there.

So at some stage it's. Now buddy, do you know what

that? Is.

OHP Tell David what is that? Scott, what is?

It that hasn't happened to mine, no.

That's right. That's right.

I think he did take the Scotty, but it wasn't you that he jinxed. It was me that he thinks.

So. But the sad thing is that cars

barely been driven. So you know, I don't know how

it's decided to let it go. Maybe through lack of use, I

don't know. But anyway.

Confirm diagnosis confirmed last week by a good mate in the club who. That I can do that that'll be

like you know a couple of weekends work as always.

Do not know. Harry.

I said that's fine. So I'm organising some truck to

pick that up and take it up to him.

And at the gearbox on Saturday actually I was rummaging around looking for something for someone and have across a whole lot of gaskets and thought oh what are these for?

Oh look at that 77 Civic 1500. That's that's pretty handy.

I'll. I'll be taking that home with

me. I think so that's just, that's

exactly, actually, that's exactly what are the advantages of being in a car club, really. And yeah, I was astounded.

Yeah, I knew that were there, but I had never looked closely to see what they were. But there was written plain as

the nose on your face, what they were for.

So I thought, well, there we go. I didn't even have to order one

now. So that was good, but that

wasn't a good bit. The good bit was that someone on

Instagram posted because not surprisingly I follow a whole lot of people in Japan who have got in one Rs with 6 speed manual key boxes and I got I posted a photo a couple of weeks ago. He changed the gear boot in his

which is just normally a black vinyl gear boot to an Alcantara gear boot with orange stitching. Now teen listeners who know the

N1 Rs will know that the interior is littered with orange highlights and so the orange stitching really looks looks good in the Alcantara gear boot, really adds to it so and you put a link to where he got it. So I mentioned it to a good

friend who buys a lot of things in Japan and lo and behold this week on one arrived in my in my lap.

So I've. The following the theory of you

know, build it and and they shall come.

I now have a part of an N1 Rs, so watch this space.

Hmm. You've got you've got one here

and you now have it in one Rs. Gear boot, yes.

That's actually have a right hand intersex tail light that was taking a bit longer to you know what is it people have those walls where you put what is it like a.

Vision Board? Yeah.

Vision. Like you have things on there

that you really manifesting to have.

Exactly right. I'm putting it out into the

universe. I've got a blue with Cream

Pagoda model diecast in my bedroom with a market that's a bit ratty, you know, needs a little bit of love and I'm like there, that's my little Manistee.

Green, The Shannons catalogue, even the Shannon's catalogue Blues. There you go.

OHS. The odour on on the front cover.

Hello. Billy you.

Keep talking, I'll, I'll, I'll have a look and see how it's going forward, but I think that's me for the moment.

I think that's all my updates. Scotty.

Not too much. My the Subaru is still running

fine. No drama is there.

He's just letting you know, Edward, that there's no drivers there, he's just just just making sure.

That you? Yeah, you know.

Maybe you might wanna pick up a B4 for yourself.

No good. No, no.

Hmm, I like it. Thought you would.

I like a Scooby. Just try and find one that

doesn't have the twin turbo system still and you should be right. There they are.

Vacuum hose nightmare. Yeah.

One thing if I may mention just talking of systems the most guys will pop my bonnet on on Sunday morning and they couldn't believe that the engine still had the air pump which was only fitted to late 70s cars which basically pumped air into the exhaust to make it cleaner burning to pass emissions.

And they sort of notorious I mean they they worked by and large the system worked but it was like they've all seized up and they've all been removed like all their permissions junk and off it goes. And they said Oh my God we

haven't seen one with an air pump for 30 years like.

And I was like at least that shows the cars pretty original and hasn't had a lot of use I suppose in terms of that.

But they all said get rid of it, get rid of it, get rid of.

They said I'll keep it, you know, put it in a box, you know, like, but just removing air pump and I'm like, yeah, I hear you, I hear I'll probably do that. Sorry.

Scotty. That's right.

I think that's that's it for me. All I did was nearly made Maddie

Impulse buy something. Man.

Yes, it was a frenetic couple of hours.

That wasn't it. So the colour yeah I was I was a

bit you know I didn't I didn't know what to think I was I was considering life choices. I was like as if I sell this I

can get this and if I do this I can buy that and but it was a tax return by full drive KE generation on Grey's online it's sold for 5 1/2 grand and but we had a written it was previously written off and knowing me with those cars and they've all had ridiculously hard lives and they're all like it was quite common to pull the carpets back on one and finally roll cage you know like the remnants of A roll cage and back back in the early days when they came out. That they were flogged to death.

So I was like, ohhhhh, yeah, I could but you know it didn't say where it was repaired. And I was like, well, it's too

much, too much of A risk. So I thought I'd, you know, I

talked myself out of it and David, help me talk myself out.

He's like Matt. Remember what we talked about?

So spoke. About I think 5 is a good number

at the moment. Edward of Cars, I think that's.

Yeah, it was less than 24 hours earlier, he was saying.

Oh, I'm happy with my 5:00. Cars.

I'm happy, I'm happy. I think it's less about that and

more because if the right car falls in your lap, sometimes you just gotta pounce. But.

Now, I'm a big believer of that wasn't the right car.

Yeah, the big believer of quality over quantity and you know, start wood base. Otherwise you're chasing your

tail and you don't want a car that's repairable right off.

Ideally, yeah. It's so rare that you have to go

down that road like I I'd rather wait and pay 15 for a cracker than by G1 for five because you just can't.

You know you you can't turn that into that for the the difference. You know, it makes no financial

sense. I did say the.

Medicaid when you couldn't check, especially when you couldn't check it out. Yeah, you don't know what it

looked like underneath. It could just be a complete like

welding shut case or something you know, I mean like my Tarago was a repairable write off at the at the you know it didn't qualify because it was too old but that all they did was smashed the steering column and yeah like that was it.

The rest of the thing was perfect.

So repairable write off isn't necessarily the end of the world, but it depends. Yeah.

At least you knew what it was. Yeah, I knew exactly what it

was. But other people probably.

Maybe. Well, yeah.

Like it wasn't logged as such because it was too old.

It was over 15. Right.

Without knowing. And it's on graves.

Yeah, it'll be, yeah. But you know.

What the revision? You know what that can be like.

What's it cracking one with? A cracking K&K.

There are about 15 to 20 grand these days.

I mean, that's not insane money not talking.

To us, you know you're you are. It's like you can't take a 5

grander and make it into a 15 grander, like a few repairs and a bit of paint and bang you there, you know, So you better just buying a good one. I reckon we'll see it probably

up on car sales going for about 10 or 11 I reckon.

Is that really much? Without probably anything being

done, they'll just sell it. 10 grand, no roadworthy.

And that's it, yeah. Well, I'm as.

Mathmate actually bordered, I think.

Yeah, yeah, what? We'll get to that.

We'll get to that in my in my car updates.

Uh, but um, Tyrone updates with you?

Not much on my side, just yeah, just driving it, liking it to actually know when to fill up petrol.

The guy at the the servo, he seems to be walking in and he's like, he's like, I love the colour.

This may cause that looks so, so good, you know?

And he's like, yeah, it was all over the car.

It's it's an unusual green. It is.

Yeah, it stands out, stands out like.

But yeah, which? Green is it?

Sorry. It's the grace, the breeze.

Yeah. Ohhhhh.

Nice. So it's like, you know, normally

greens are either sort of dark Oxford green, like a bit like your hoodie David baby, you know, it's it's a racing, you dark metallic Oxford or there are lime green, like a Honda Jazz in that lime green or Mazda 2IN that line.

They're the kind of greens you typically see.

Well, then there's like an Aqua from the early 90s, you know, on a Discovery or Mazda 626 or the Polynesian green on the forwards. This thing is kind of like a

blend of all of these and you kind of go, is it blue, is it green is it's it's a really unusual.

Oh yeah, yeah. Like there.

It almost looks blue looks. Exactly, yeah.

But it's. Green, Green.

I have, I haven't. I didn't know that number, that

colour. That's brilliant.

Yeah it's it's a it's definitely a nice colour.

I I I've said this a few times at like 4 in holding in that era did some really cool colours like they were trying to bring colours back in in the in the Bay series and FG series and and VE&VS like trying to rule bring like oranges and pinks and purples and greens and. Yeah, it's sort of.

Really. Colour.

It's like a teal, yeah, but it's a metallic teal.

I like that. It's a colour in this dull

world. Yeah, performer, white and

blacks and greys. I can't talk.

I got a few white cars. But it's not.

That's just just because how it happened.

So yeah, so yeah, just nothing. Just nothing.

Nothing yet to it. Just enjoying it.

Needs a good clean and that's it I think.

Me. Well, where do we start?

We start with the biggest slap in the face ever, The guy that bought my car off me. The Lt Day we came.

Back now, he put it for sale for six and a half thousand.

Oht. Yeah, so and and but here's the

kicker, right he Same description, same photos.

He didn't even change anything. So, but then I don't know if you

sold it, I don't know what happened because now it's been taken offline. So I will be.

I won't be a very, very, very happy man, Put it that way.

It is a prize, given how long you had it for.

Unless someone didn't want to drive out West, You know, maybe you sold it to someone about E Do you know?

Who knows? But yeah, I'll I was not not

impressed to let's just for my own description of my own photos. I was very pissed off.

Let's let's copyright. Let us, let us leave it at that.

I was tempted to send a message and say, hey mate, yeah, pull your head in. But I was like, you know what?

He knows where I live. Well, my parents live so, so I,

I, I I don't wanna, I didn't wanna stir the pot.

Yeah, who cares? It's gone and that's it, you

know? Yeah, that's it.

Money is worth and that's it pretty much.

I don't think, to be honest, I don't think it's gonna get that much anyway. Yeah, he's not.

He's gotta have some really stupid to come and buy it for that much. No, you're right.

You're right. So that was the first bit.

My good friend of mine, I work with Joe.

Lovely lady. She's ditched me up today, but

I'll get to that a little bit. Little bit, but anyway, she

basically she's got a 2010 Corolla Hatch, which she bought brand new. And over the last year it's

150,000 and it's and it's she's the cracked radiator a few bits and the fuel pump wins and a few other bits and pieces of of screwed up on her and then she couldn't get into park and she's like I don't know so she took her back to right now and he's like he's like all the selector inside the transmissions going going a bit going a bit going a bit weird we'll have to you know fix it properly anyway they they didn't have the tool to get to it so the the that they took it to the to to their connection

with the transmission place and. They fixed it but the but they

said the first like the first gear on it's really how you're going. So the transmissions where is

pretty much gone and they said it could go at any minute and she's and she's you know she's been upset about it she's like I'll just pull this back money back into the car and now now they're saying it's going to be about 3 grand to rebuild it all a good second handy installed you know R&R is about you know about just over $1000. So she's like, you know, I'll

probably move it on and and get something.

She wants to have some other kids so she wants to be your car and they're struggling fitting the pram and all that stuff with the with the one kid in the Corolla.

So she's gonna have something a little bit bigger.

I have an appalling load load capacity that showed Corollas.

OHS horrible. But but obviously she had the

car for quite a long time so so it was it was OK for the one for the one kid. But they're wanting to they

wanted to have more. So.

So they're like, yeah, look it's probably probably hours of time that we have a reason to upgrade that we can just, you know go go get go get something different. So I'm gonna take them car

shopping this weekend but she's like oh, do I just, do I just piss it off for a couple grand? I'm like, well, no, they they're

worth about 10. I said.

I said, Let's say you put 1500 bucks.

Put into the trans and everything because the car is still pretty strong. Give it a nice Polish to clean

and put it up for sale in car sales and and and you know you'd be able to get if you get if you get 8-9 and a half 10 grand for it so it's like 160,000 OK, I think.

I think you'll come out alright, but it got me thinking about since new or. Yeah, it's, she said.

It's been 1, 60 to be that warning, the tranny.

Model is not a good car like like the plastics are in are really crappy it's all like both cup holders they're broken and to replace the cup holders on that model you have take out the whole dashboard it's it's a shocking design so it's like it's just it's not a it's not a really good kind and for some context for those who don't know what show it's the same shape as the the the blade master G that that era Corolla so she's yeah she was a bit disappointed so I mean it's a poverty pack one but that's fine it's been good up until the last year 20,000 cars

and everything's gone wrong but remember driving that car a few years ago like it felt it didn't feel like a nice.

Corolla with Corollas usually feel feel pretty good.

So so so she's after a new car and I think she's going to get a Forester. I think that's what she wants to

get. She's like it's got enough size

for you know stuff for the for the kid and we have a second one so I'm gonna, I'm gonna go help her look, look at that.

But so I'll be helping her sell, sell that car.

And I said to her, I said to her, look, I'm not very good at selling cars. The last car to help anyone

still. So I I did say the last one I

sold almost took a year to sell but anyway that's that's that and that's I think that's pretty much it on mine actually wanted to drive the the the MR2 on the weekend but I just just I was too busy with work I I managed the day on on on on Saturday and so anyway I that was that's been pretty much my place but more or less been a bit annoyed about people using my own photos and using my own. Whose description didn't even

like? How?

How? How lazy do you have to be not

to even change the description? Like, seriously.

Because he actually found it. Did you still have it up there?

No. No, I took it off.

You gonna copy? That copy that.

Just just frustrating but like he Ms painted like the the the licence plates cause he my on my original photos you just covered the licence by someone like this guy really.

But anyway, that is that is my update now German talking I wanna discuss tonight. About.

The state of the car industry in terms of electrification, where we're moving to now, we've discussed electrification many times on the show, but I wanna, I want to give you guys a story Now we know about the second car freight, you know Cub, what they called car freight liner boats. The thing was called the

Fremantle Hwy. It has pretty much had 500 EVs

on there and one went into Thermal Runaway and they all virtually went into Thermal Runaway.

Now issue is. People like people are realising

the danger because there are a lot more EV fires than than than, than, than are described and I'm I'm kind of worried because. I'm seeing all these new like

apartment blocks and all these new buildings and stuff and all these new car parks, you know what they're doing.

They're putting EV charging spaces underground and and I'm like if they go up, which they have and it's and it's been, there's plenty of videos of them.

You're not you're not getting out of out of a out of an apartment building or anything like that.

You know the the, the Catching Fire in peoples garages.

It's. It's a bit of a worry to be fair

like like it and it's you know we never had this problem with petrol cars in in espresso because they've always had to be safe because they've got a horrible horrible liquid in them now cobalt and lithium and that's some hardcore stuff that that's in these batteries and they're Catching Fire and they're emitting really, really badly now that is in itself a massive issue and it's it's playing it's playing a massive issue with with the with the infrastructure one because the power to to to that we're going to have to make to to produce these to to power these up to I was that was that.

The I was at the shop the other day and it was cars waiting to go to the charge station because you know there was a line lining them up. So I'm like that's a bit of a

pain and when they verticals when they work 3 they're going up in flames and you know the the Fremantle one was 500's gone. I found on board it's still

burning like like like there's like a car when they when they burn and then they go away because like a car blowing up is pretty, pretty uneventful. Like the only things that go

bang at the tyres when they go pop, like, yeah, and then they they burn themselves out and that's it was Evie fires just keep burning and then then they don't really go out.

To say that they they're producing their own, their own oxygen and everything so. But that car has three.

That carrier has 3000 cars on it.

Correct. So yeah, it's not just the 500

EBS, it's the other 2 1/2 thousand cars that aren't getting to where they're meant to be going.

Smoke damaged? Maybe?

Yeah, I think should smoke damaged.

Yeah. Well I was watching a recent

video about it because it's it's it's it's I think it's under target at the moment getting getting taken back because like the the last one that that burnt last year, it couldn't be, couldn't be recovered and it's sitting at the bottom of the ocean currently. So this one, yeah, it's still

smouldering, but it it's when it's burned the whole the whole way through the, you know, the whole way the way through the ship, person person, person is enforcing passed away.

Are people realising that maybe this is a bad idea maybe this is not the answer or cause like the prices are coming down on EV S and and believe it or not the person I was speaking about Joe before she she she she flicked me through this thing about this company in Melbourne selling Japanese electric cars that they're importing here and then they're selling and selling for a lot cheaper. They're saying a lot cheaper

because like the rate in which people are just churning through them now is like is is remarkably quick which makes which doesn't make any sense for for this is my last point doesn't make sense for the for the for the point of owning an EV when you're owning an RV to save to save money right.

So but it's. Well, the the, the difference in

expenditure between an EV and let's say the petrol equivalent.

If you're not having it for like over 10 or 15 years, you're not like theoretically, depending on how much you drive it, you're not really getting back that that money that you've spent.

So you're really just throwing money away.

So is this becoming an issue and are people realising they're like, holy crap, we need to, we need to do something about that.

Because having charged at the bottom of the bottom of, you know, shopping centres on the bottom of new apartment building buildings and body corporates and all, and all that stuff, Oh yeah, we got electric charging underneath.

I don't think I want one under underneath my underneath my.

My building, because I don't think I'll be able to get out if it catches fire. So lot a lot of these V Catching

Fire while they're being charged.

Is that yes, yes they are. Oh, OK, so I'm a bit sceptical,

to be fair. I think we've rushed into it and

now we're saying, oh, OK, they're actually Cobalt's bad for you, lithium bad for you. And I'm not eating any of these.

These are great. Like they they are, they're

incredible. They unbelievably fast.

They're they're, you know, technology wise, they're they're pretty, pretty incredible. But I just don't I think that

the answer and and and and we've rushed to the point now that we've kind of we can't backtrack because with in Europe they've committed to you know 20-30, you don't know more no more I think you know combustion engines etcetera.

So we've gone to the point of like, have we made a mistake, especially after that big, big Fremantle, Fremantle, Hwy disaster? Question How to build the genie

back in the bottle? Isn't it Scotty?

Question on that is. Find out with some of those ones

on the charging and why? Is it because not maintained or

was it because? Manufacturers are cutting

corners now. Is it over charging?

Yeah correct. I was overheating battery and

and ambassadors have like a certain time like certain temperature like like like range they can get to right so so it's quite worrying that if if what if one of that man you know basically fails it's it's horrendous but but the issue is it produces its own oxygen and it produces its own you know fuel. So it's not like a you know you

can't just put it out like it. It will just keep producing its

own, its own, you know, fire. Which for me is quite terrifying

because that that really personifies well, I I don't know if I'd like that underneath my underneath my house or in my garage. So you'd expect that they'd have

some safety measures to make sure that doesn't happen.

That's the thing they don't, right?

Like like. They.

Understand. They got it for everything when

it comes to cars, even for you. You gas cylinders feet BBQ.

Has safety measures in place in case, you know, for the inevitable year. Hot water systems and that do

too. And all this.

So why don't the cars? Well.

They cut. And you know, I just, I just

feel like there's so many pumping out there pushing them that, you know, the whole time that cards are being made have corners being cut. Yep, yes.

And. And you've gotta ask yourself.

Why wouldn't they still be doing it now?

Of course they'd still be doing it like I'm just showing guys who guys video and you know like how quick this this this van goes up and it spends on charge and it's and bang you will just say there you go and it's and it pretty much takes everything with it that's how quick they they.

Whoa, yeah, it's. Boring Fillet 1.

It's that's terrifying. Like that that's that's scares

the absolute living crap out of me.

So the fact that that's the fire.

Crew are prepared well. I saw those kind of fires at the

moment Well well here's the thing right they're not and the and I was watching the same video which which which talking to you guys and and and and I know some people are a fan of this person but but he makes a good point here there there was a there's a interview with it with a fibre with a member of the fire brigade and basically like they're burning on on on on the on the trucks that like the the the delivery trucks that are getting sent to dealerships and stuff like they there was one where the interviewing this firefighter and he's he's like talking about this Tesla fire and he's like yeah we just gotta wait till it kind of you know goes out because it's just like

you. Because I think that an

electrical fire, I don't think you can put it up with water and water you can it's that's a bit of a well.

These type of electrical fires cause a bit of a myth like they were saying you can't you can water it and stuff but the the heat is just it's because it's producing its own fuel.

It's like yeah you kind of have to yeah virtually So like you just you just wait it out essentially.

And the issue is there was there was another one of of a of a bus charging and then there was like 6 buses in a row and they all one by one they just they just had to let him go because they couldn't stop it stop it from from from from you know from from from catch. And that's that's an like if

this was a car issue there would be there would be an and I could you know guys there would be you know heads will be rolling if if this was a car company having that.

But I think what we're all under this EV kind of you know are there they're the answer that we that we not that we're not seeing it like seeing for what it is like like and I'm I'm not hating on you he's like I generally think they're really cool I Love's I just don't think that this this is this.

Is a taken. They haven't taken the safety

measures properly. That's that's probably the the

main thing of it. You know, they haven't taken the

safety precautions to to to make them basically safe and reliable. Maybe they could.

Yeah maybe they could have like where they are charging these car or they have the charging base to have a a better fire, a fire system around you know So if they do go up in flames it I mean you've got you've got that that that measure to to control it in that area instead of letting it widespread to to other other cars parked beside it or go up into the building or anything like that you know But the first, the first point, the first point is obviously fix the issue within the car so they're

not actually catching on fire. That's the that's the first

issue. Car Talk, top tip.

Don't charge your EV at your house.

Charge. Charge it outside.

The shopping centre nearby? That's not your house.

Well, it's mean also got also. Got.

How practical that long term if you?

Yeah we've had well see in the in the UK is really one of the comments on on that video it's like UK Fire Brigades are advising against charging electric scooters and bikes indoors for the number of horrendous fires deciding from one of these you know one of these things.

So you know if there's nothing from those and and it's it's just all or nothing nature that you know that of the EV, this it's all or nothing now it's frightening.

It's actually frightening like it's I.

Don't mobile phone right? If it charges, it doesn't it

turn off like. With the.

Scientists, electrician but doesn't get to a point.

When it's fully charged, it stops.

With the newer ones, yeah. Not with the older ones that you

used to still charge and that's when you overcharge your phone and you kill your battery obviously as quick as possible.

But yeah, the newer ones, they are now making them.

As soon as they hit that full charge they they cut off.

Yeah, yeah, the bus, yeah, it's car like combustion engine.

Cars have issues as well and and and they get recorded and they get slammed for it. Recalls with you know with these

companies like it's it should this.

I feel like there's no repercussions like this has to be an issue of insurance companies Are they gonna pay for that for all you overcharge your battery or are you left on charge. Sorry we're not we're not we're

not covering you. So I mean these are these are

serious questions that we need to ask and we need to find out because if this is going to be our future which is you know from all accounts what it's looking like at the moment I I'm just I'm. Someone's gonna be held

accountable. That's that's basically.

But no, what's gonna happen is how long is it gonna take, What in what kind of accident will it take for people to realise, oh crap, this is not a good idea, we've lost many lives right now.

They can't get out of this apartment building because they're EV caught fire underneath and they couldn't leave because all the bottom levels on fire.

For what point? You know, like, will they

realise that? You know what, Maybe we've made

a mistake here. Maybe this is not the answer.

You've just you've just said it. You need something like that to

happen. Yeah.

And it's. But it's not a question.

It's not a question of if Scotty.

It's a question of when. Yeah.

And and and that's and that's the terrifying thing about it.

Like you guys know I've had a house fire.

It's a horrible thing and people don't from housewives every year and it's and this, especially from someone that that's that's lived through that it's a it's it's just it boggles my mind.

It actually terrifies. Me.

Well, I didn't know how. You know, I I hadn't heard about

how many fires there were from charging EV's.

I've, you know, I've heard of a few Catching Fire on boats and things and and you know like in in big, big boatloads of of Teslas and and Jaguars or whatever else it is, you know, and one goes up and they they all go.

But even then it would like, how does it happen?

Like they're not on charge at that point because, you know, the battery has a fault. Yeah, And it catches fire.

This is it. How does it happen when it's

not? It needs to be self

extinguishing somehow. There's got to be like inbuilt

foam that when it gets to a certain temperature, the foam releases and it puts itself out. Would be nice, yeah.

I mean, I don't know how how common it is.

Is it is it like this has happened 20 times and there's just getting too much media attention and the the majority of them are fine and you only hear about the the freak accidents or is it is it really more common than we think.

I don't know enough about it. I mean it's kind enough for it

to be an issue like this is the second boatload of fire in in two years. This is this is multi billions

of dollars worth of cars gone. This is, you know, fires

happening everywhere and it's been quite and to be fair a lot of it's been hushed up because you know, the the, the, the government and all these people want, they want, they want it to happen. They they want to be to be the

solution, right? Was that caught on fire was at

one particular brand or hasn't an announcement Teslas have been quite Catching Fire like you know all other cars companies like there's a lot of companies that have that have been Catching Fire. So it's not just I'm not putting

the finger at one EV company. Well what I'm pointing the

finger at is you know is this the answer because quite frankly this is terrifying like when when we're and we're left and we're it's it's like it's like we're walking ourselves into into into the ocean and just being like not you know said Oh well you know I'll see if I can swim or you know going into the going into the boxing ring with all ages because you think you can box as a as a family. It's just, it's.

It's just, it's, it's. It's.

Jake Paul Yeah, but but you know what I mean, right?

Like it's it's quite it's quite just boggling that we've just been so quick to adopt it yet they we see these issues and I and I get there they are sporadic cases but the sporadic enough to to pretty much burn to the ground two ships there and you know car carriers and all out of catching fight not even on charge on charge of the Catching Fire.

You know, it's being someone that's been traumatised by fire quite extensively. The fact that we just like, oh,

let's just put 30 charges underneath an apartment building because that because what we're being sustainable, fingers up, you know. I'm behind that building,

Mattie. Do not buy there.

Yeah, but like I, I'm, I'm saying it in terms of like humanity. Like this is it's and it's not a

question. It's not a question.

Of but it's not it's. It's when it's gonna.

Happen. It's not even 8, like even it's

not even like buying the building.

Like even if you went for like they had a restaurant in there or something, you know, and you went there for the night or something. Don't go to any high rise

building. So just live on the.

Street so you know these for example Chadstone carpark will like so let's just put Chatton for.

Example everybody, they've got thousands of cars.

Melbourne Airport, Melbourne airports, you've got it like they got Chuck, but they're all enclosed so the flames just gonna expand and go like it's it's there's no there's that for me is terrifying like it there is it's actually a really big issue that nobody is talking about right now and then I think I think we need to really, really open.

Up to stay. I mean it'll it'll only take

someone sort of dying from it. A bit like the Takata airbag

recall what have you know someone or you know a handful of people around the world. Will.

Will. Succumb to it and then they'll

go OHS. Hang on, Alright, there's a

recall or there's something, you know.

Until then, it's probably, Oh yeah, isolated incident.

OK, whatever. So interesting time will tell

with that you'll have to give it probably a couple of years and until he's really take hold and then and then see what happens.

Maybe the with the utility prices going up in the UK, the the resale value of EV's is plummeting over there, yeah?

Because it's in some places it's it's become easy, expensive to charge a car as it is to perpetual and and and then you have all the compromises as you've said before, waiting for it to charge and you know 4 hour trip ending up taking six hours or seven hours. I can speak from personal

experience about that. It's it.

It's it's. There are flaws to the

technology, certainly, and and to the experience.

What's the answer? Is there a better answer you can

think of? The answer is Lancer.

That was their slogan. It'll probably still be being

sold in, you know, 20 years it's been.

Not EV. They're not even.

That's the answer. See I, I I wanna add to, I wanna

add to that point David. Like the electricity prices are

going up like that and even the going up through the roof here in Australia to the point where like is it really worth it like at that at that point is the answer is is the answer a good middle ground like buying a hybrid that's that's that's not a plug in but there's just a standard hybrid that you can that you can just basically you know it regenerates itself.

It's got a little enough battery.

So you know if anything does happen you can get out in time.

You know it's it's and it's, it's it's proven technology Toyota, I've been doing it for you know almost 30 years at this point. So, so that for me is that's

where I'm kind of saying that that's probably more of an answer. I still think hydrogen is a

great answer cause it just emits water vapour and hydrogen it's in the air, you can get it free. I think that's good, but there

no one's pushing that. Yeah.

They would have waited. Yeah, Turner had, they actually

built a car. Yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

they built it in. Yeah.

I don't know. There was they were planning on

doing that before even like electric came out, you know that was obviously the solution to petrol but.

I think the infrastructure just didn't take off as much as quickly with hydrogen as it did with.

Pure water that needed no it it just emits water vapour and it's it's just like they they get the hydrate like there's a way, there's a way they do it. There's a way they kind of make

it happen and then but. It's incredibly volatile.

That's being part of the problem is storage and that I think there are a couple of explosions in.

I think Norway or somewhere in Scandinavia, I think there was a couple of hydrogen recharging stations that didn't go well.

And I suppose. I suppose there is going to be

teething problems. There's people.

But yeah, long term you really have to worry about the the.

How it integrates into life and how it sort of sustains or or helps you live your life without risk.

That's the problem. As I said, I'm not in TV like I

I generally like them. I think they're really great.

But I'm I'm just, you know, I'm I'm worried that this is where we're heading and you know this is.

By Tesla and put a Barrow in it. With be good the technology and

then you and you have a picture with it.

I heard of someone that did that.

Yeah, we we said it last week, but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I I just find it. Yeah, I just.

Super cars going how can we hybrid?

Like they're they're they're, you know, like the they go in hybrid because like that that extra stuff, it's it's good, but it's like, you know, I think hybridity is a really good way of, you know, combining. The two hybridity.

That's that's. Good.

Is that a word is a word. It is a.

Word. I greedily iritty Look it up.

You're asking the teacher. The teacher's up.

I guarantee we're not gonna be. Garris Crossing Our family has

good hybridity. I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna

Google this in real time. I've heard the word said many

times and I'm like, I'm like it's hard.

Could be one of those made up words.

So people might, yeah. In in the most basic sense

refers to mixture. The term originates from biology

and subsequently employed in linguistics and in racial theory in the 19th century. Basically they go hybridity.

So. So put it in a sentence,

Matthew. OK, I'll, I'll, I'll look for.

I'll look for it in the. Sentence He just did.

I'm trying to find out how to put in a sentence saying hybridity. Here's one I've just come up

with a the the Toyota, the Toyota Hybrid System.

Has increased hybridity over the early or the early hybrid Toyotas and increased hybridity over the integrated motor assist of the Honda hybrid cars. The.

Generic could run on a like it could run on electric only power as opposed to not. Yeah so it's it was originally a

cross between two separate races plants or cultures.

A hybrid is something that is mixed and hybrid is is simply mixture. So yeah so I guess it is a way.

There you go. I've, I've.

I've learned you something today, guys.

I've learned you. Something again with the with

the increasing prices of electricity at the moment and the dwindling prices of cars and now that are coming down.

Do you think they're gonna get to the point where it's so cheap that we wonder if like this is my last question for the night before we get into the quiz that our infrastructure here just cannot cope. And we we especially in

Australia are not, are not ready to to implement full EV kind of place because one we you know we're gonna have to get coal stations and stuff happening again to be able to power them.

And then that's just the that just kind of makes the makes the thing makes this defeats the purpose.

It's pointless exercise. So like, there's talks of, you

know, people going nuclear and doing this and doing that to be able to sustain this, and that's terrifying bringing.

Back unless we're just going to have fields and.

Use of solar panels. Yeah, like what they've done in

your. Melbourne Hospice for that,

Yeah, that's one thing. We are doing this spice for

that. That's what it is, in front of

front of Melbourne or not front of Melbourne Airport, but at the back where the lookout, that whole going, going, going up to somebody, the whole land is just full of solvent.

Full panel, yeah. So when you flying in, just

move, hit the runway, that's all you see the solar panels.

The other complication with with the depreciation on electric vehicles is that they're not only depreciate as electric and the cost of electricity increases, but as over time the the the sceptre of having to replace the battery also becomes more of a thing too and. Yeah, let's was wondering is

like one once in saying EV basically dies, it's got nothing left of it. Like how does it degrade?

Gotta put another battery in it, but there have been some, you know, incredible numbers thrown around as as the price for replacement battery, you know, like $20,000 in some cases.

Well, would you rather buy rather just buy brand new cut?

And then that's not really very good for the environment, is it?

Just wrecking a car that's eight years old and 10 years old, whatever it is, especially looking around the screen tonight, I think between us we've got probably 2 or 300 years of age of cars. You know that the thought of

having a 2020 20/20/12. 2013 model car that sort of had it

and and no good anymore. I mean, that's out of my frame

of reference. Chinese companies in America

won't ensure you if you've got a charger, a electric car charger in your garage now. Really OHT now?

Wow. Just do, I guess.

I guess. Just plug it in, plug it on the

side, get an extension cord across, and that's it.

That's what you That's how you really save money.

I guess The thing is, when it comes to cars, you're gonna have some that the engines aren't the best, you know, a bit of a lemon. But that's not going to kill

you. If you're going to have, you're

going to have a faulty batteries.

Because I don't think the standards of them being kept, yeah, is going to be at a super high level.

And these things, there's gonna be what you want.

The. First, do you want in cars you

like there there's you get lemon cars like it's it's a thing that happens. The first, the first probably

like 50,000 or so would be good and then once they get that mass mass production going, the quality drops and then that's when that's when you start seeing all those faults happen.

But here's the thing that I think Scott is going to like not every year is gonna catch fire like you might wanna do.

Business it's like it's like a car.

It's like it's like being a normal car these days.

You know, you can buy a brand new one and it'll be, it'll be fine and sometimes you can buy a brand new one and.

Even it's brand new, it's too, it's too good.

It's still got issues with it, you know?

That guy with that Ranger over that ball one drove it out the drawer at the at the door down the street and then broke down.

He walked back and said, he said I think I fixed it so, so it's it's it's stuff like that that, you know, it's that that's something one of the biggest. One of the big things that we

need to really, really look into.

Any final thoughts, gentlemen? OK, car.

Hmm, take. Yeah, I don't know.

I mean. Europe's really pushing for

this. All electric business but is it

going to happen is they can easily just not do it and just say no. I mean they've committed to it

this companies like that have changed the whole structure, Volvos said. We're not doing anymore anymore

after certain dates like like they're having to move with the times which is which now could potentially it's a it's a massive gamble really. It's a massive gamble on on

these companies behalf like. So you know Volvo's doing it.

The Volvo is committed to a few other companies are committing to it. So you know it's either it's

either the best gamble or deliver make or it's going to put them in a hole and. Oil companies.

Hmm. So why are oil companies so

required? That's gonna take a lot of their

business, a lot of their profits.

Well, here's the thing. I think they realise that they

probably, they probably done the math and said that's not the answer. Well, I think the the key to

that is, is the development of synthetic fuels.

I mean if we could find a renewable, I mean Porter doing a lot of work in that in that area, fuels and things like that. So I mean that's it's sort of

the great white hope, I think in in a way, but it there'll still be a lot of dead electric cars lying around.

I think if if that happens, you know, if people can we, if we can find a sustainable way to produce, um, an environmentally friendly petrol replacement or substitute, I think that would be, I think the person that does that will be a very wealthy man.

It's like there is also 85 which which is discussed on before the show which is corn juice essentially like that is just you know probably ethanol and cars can run on this.

Cars come from the factory that can run on it.

Like, yeah, Holden had things and Dodge and a few other companies had cars that you can buy, that flex fuel, cars that can run on. Excuse Me, Straight straight 85.

Can you run a 1123 on old cooking oil?

Wasn't that diesel? I remember that.

It's been done, yeah. Yeah.

You can't do it on the high pressure common rail, more modern diesels. But those old school ones like

my 190 or those old 33? Hundreds or two 40s, yeah.

Did you find veggie oil? Basically, you could just

basically park out the back of flakey Jakes on a Friday night.

Yeah, that's what I was gonna say.

Yeah, Yeah. OK.

Fish and chip shop just get a good good good syphon and a good strainer. Probably would be driving here

to get this waft of you know, the fish and chip or your life.

Really hungry Lamari Greens, Norway.

Get me a Turkey Twizzler right now.

You're better off just hanging out McDonald's or something like that, cause they're they're like pumping through oil, no.

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah I honestly think you know like I think biofuels and and and fuels that are that are man made that are sustainable and renewable and environmentally friendly to an extent.

I think I think that's where we should be investing our money to be fair because I don't think internal combustion is dead and I'm I'm everyone's like Oh yeah forget about it it's it's over.

Don't buy it. Don't buy, buy, just buy

straight by an EV. But you know the the right of

which the the housing projects housing prices one but also the inflation and the the the bill that was called the your electricity bills are flying through the roof you know it's not the savings are gonna be great like it's gonna it's gonna take a lot longer to get those to get those inverted commas benefit because you're paying so much more extra for an electric version of certain car for it to be worthwhile at this point because the you know it's kind of evening out So at this point you just say well I'm just buy you know internal combustion engine. Yeah, and I think there's one

answer to solve the problem. There's not one solution, It's

multiple things. But that's what the thing that

they saying they take this is the solution this is the only solution we're giving you and it's it's just it's it's it's pushing this agenda on us that I'm just like I it's it's not the answer like it's it just can't be forward this space.

What's the space, Scotty, you're doing the quiz tonight.

Ohe cryptic cast, right? Yeah.

Well, here we go. Cryptic time, so I've got.

And questions as usual. Some of them could be tricky, so

let's see. Yeah, Wouldn't.

Wouldn't. I'd expect nothing less if you

Scotty, yes. So make sure you got your

cryptic minds plugged in. Cryptic head on.

Yep. Put your cryptic hat on.

Plug it in. So are they all cryptic or are

they? Are there some other ones mixed

in? All the all cryptic, OK?

Now and the last two are movies can't related movies, so that's how I've done it. I thought we'll go a little bit

old fashioned and just stick with some cryptic.

I'm keeping score for you. Thank you very much, Maddie.

Here we go, Question one, the forward messenger.

Ed. Head.

Would Korea? There we go.

This one down. OK, this is 1 where I think we

might get stumped because it's new to me, but I mean, you're probably all wiser and smarter than me, so we'll see.

Question 2. The Toyota above, or you could

say over or beyond, they all mean the same thing for this car, Matthew. Matthew.

Is it the Avalon? Nope.

But someone in Australia or not? It was.

It wasn't import, but now Australia, yeah.

They did. It Emory.

The Camry. Well, that rules out two fine

automobiles, the Avalon and the Camry.

That's a good one. Alright, David, Matt, Tyrone,

What do you got? Oht.

Matt, Tyrone and Darwin. Tutorial.

It's not the origin of the I know to you.

At 3 fine cars, No Cameron, Orianna, Avalon Info.

I don't know if it means it, but is it Prado?

No, not Prado. Parola.

Don't know Corolla. While we're out now, what is it?

Scar. The Supra.

Ohhh. Supra means something above like

next level above. OK.

Yes, that was very cryptic. When I searched it up and had a

bit of a read, I was like, oh, that's very, very interesting.

That should stop a lot of people, and you were correct.

Stumped me. Alright, we'll move into

question 3. Suzuki Respect or admiration?

Matthew. Matthew.

Vitara. Nope, head.

Head. His ashy?

Nope. That's a blade.

Grand Vitara. What was this, Suzuki?

Suzuki. What was this guy?

Suzuki what? Uh, Susie.

Respectful admiration, David. Ignus.

No, not. Ignore, nearly, said Ignus.

I thought, maybe that's wacky enough.

To be true. You can give people a lot of

self, self Bolano. No.

The latter. Delaney Bellino sounds like some

sort of ham substitute that you would.

Yeah, and slap it on yourself. You're a bully.

No sandwich. Which I made always Bellino.

Who's gonna wait at all? OHS you.

Ignorant. So it's up to you.

I don't know. So it's not Vitara.

It's not Graham Vitara. It's not Ignace.

It's not Kizashi. What the hell is it?

And you can give people a lot of self.

Swift. Nope.

No, I was going to say. What else is there?

They don't make any of the cappuccino.

That's a drink. That's the truth.

What else is that? I'm just trying to think.

What the APV or the caravan, I'm guessing?

No. Steam.

The same as seen. Esteem.

We never got that. Theme.

That's not a car. Nobody did.

That's a car, but. It's not in Australia, Scott.

We're in Australia. Everything Australia on.

You can. Kelly is a bit boring.

Scott, check. David.

One, the rest of us in zero. You don't get all the cool

stuff. I don't know. 8/1.

Come on. Yeah.

Just take it out. And.

Let's go back to something. Let's go back.

To the scoring, right? We'll go to something a bit more

simpler for everybody. Yeah.

Thanks. And well, and was salt, you

know, every. Good.

Popular. We should know this but.

Afford protector or chaperone. Matthew.

Matthew. That'll be escort.

Yes, escort OHS. The Ford prostitute.

Yeah. The escort prostitute.

Hmm. That's up there with the LTA.

Yeah. OK #5 I don't I'm not sure where

this one was sold, I just was interested that it was actually a name. The Isuzu Urge or compulsion,

Matthew. The impulse.

Yeah, the impulse. Oh.

I'm not sure if we got it or I had searched that one but.

What was that? The 90s?

But I think that one. And on the back, I was having a

look at the pictures. He's got like a big writing.

On the back, there's impulse. Yeah.

Like a deodorant. Yes.

He could have said that the the deodorant.

I. Pray.

The Isuzu links Africa. Yeah.

OK. Unfortunately, we're going to

America on this one and you can either say Chrysler or Plymouth because they both came out the same.

So it's up to you, but it's the Chrysler or Plymouth fast or quickly, David? David, that'd be the Fury.

Not the Fury, unfortunately, no. Could we get an error coding?

Let me just quickly take a look for you.

Maybe you'll scrap that question, uh?

When I was searching I probably should have looked a little bit more into it. You probably won't be able to

get it because it was a concept car.

Oht it would then. I'll keep looking, try and give

you more hints, maybe like some easy hints.

It's a word you could picture like Italian saying to someone to hurry up. Pronto.

Pronto. Gay guy?

Yeah, yeah, you get the point. Yeah, it's one point.

Sorry about that. I should have checked that one a

little bit more. I didn't realise it was going to

be a concept car. That's so good, Scott.

I knew it. Yeah, yeah, you got the point.

Yeah. Was 11.

You name shenanigans. That's shenanigans.

I'm calling shenanigans. Where I was getting it, I didn't

think that they would be putting up concept cars like that.

Where I was getting my info car names.

Yeah, I was always cool when when letting you see seeing the batter, telling guy in a movie pics with me like pronto, like I thought it was the coolest thing ever.

So. Just saying pronto in your

pronto which would be very very cool.

Too bad it looks. Pretty good too, and I don't

like that you. Have to look at it.

Alright, question 7, let's move back to forward.

The Ford beat or rhythm? Oh.

Geez, that that is, That is a tricky one.

This is this an Australian delivered car?

Just checking that now. Think it might be the.

It was once sold in Lithuania between March 72.

Must. See, it lasted for 10 years OHS.

And my other clue is that it was a replacement for the Ford Fairmont David. David, not Futura.

No good guess though, Didn't replace support him.

Or is it fair on gear for a laugh?

Because, yeah. But anyway, that's.

Yeah, It was only sold in America.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

It's the Ford Who cares, Scott. Ford.

A beat or 10? Oh, David.

Matthew. Yeah, yeah.

I was just about to say sorry, you know, you gotta marry.

I already. It's alright.

It's. I gave you the point.

It's all good. I had one of those.

He was a horrible thing. Yeah, it wouldn't be at all.

It looks absolutely horrible, yeah, yeah.

Boxer Misery or Tempo Block? Yeah, that's what it looks like.

All right, back to one that we should, we should all know.

Question 8. The Nissan Goliath.

Matthew. Myth or Colossus?

Yes, Matthew Ohhhhh. I know I.

They do. The was the gladiator.

I know Titan ohso now I'm I gave it away.

Oh, sorry. Well, you gotta say Todd and

David, Yeah, it's the big youth, isn't it?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll give that to you, though,

because I No, no, no. No, I.

Shouldn't get it, David? Alright, now we jump into two

movies. So we got question nines a

movie. Question 10 is a movie.

And they no, they shouldn't be too tricky, these ones.

Score. Check.

Scotty first. Myself too.

David to Ed and Ed two. Tyrone at the school.

Come on, Tyler, Get on the board.

Oh, anyone's game. Anyones game, Yeah, you could

finish as a draw across the board.

Alright, let's do that. Let's let's all get to, yeah.

No. Good friends.

It was like, yeah. OK, Question 9 sprinting.

On David. Yes, running on empty.

Oh yeah, yeah. Didn't get to finish that.

One very good. Yeah, Well.

Question 10 Also great. Jackson Branson.

I'm just. Running on empty, so on.

Running high. Something Question 10, the final

one. Another movie, The automobiles

that devoured Paradise. David.

Matthew. Even the cars that ate Paris.

She's gonna say that Peter Weir. Peter Weir was responsible for

my nightmares as a child because there was a Volkswagen in it.

It was just covered with spikes. Yeah, there was, yes.

Yeah, it was freaky and I and I, I can remember seeing it being absolutely horrified you when I was a kid.

It was 73 or something. It came out something like that.

And then watching it again about 10 years ago, I suppose, and thinking it wasn't that bad. It was so cheesy and.

Even watching it as a kid or as a teenager, I think it's quite scary. That film.

Yeah, yeah, but all the these things have all could set out to you know kill you is beetle with all these spikes over it was pretty, pretty scary isn't? It.

Mine was 2 framed Roger Rabbit at the end when the guy gets run over by Steamroller OHS. Petrified me and if it was ever

on, Mum would never let me watch The End because I'd freak.

I don't know why, it just freaks the hell.

Out Wanna be steamrolled Scotty right for?

Me I don't know if you I don't know if you remember this old Tyrone from because we grew up with these these early dust games but it was Commander Keen if you played Commander Kane and anyway and one of the one of the one of the games I think was game 4 you know goodbye Galaxy series he So it's a little scary side scrolling game this game right but basically there's underwater level and you go underwater and then all of a sudden you see this massive fish.

Don't fish. And it comes to U and E2.

And then each one it looks up when it catches you and eat you and it does this weird face at I'm still getting chills now terrifies the crap out of me. So like it haunted me as a kid I

could never play the level. And I have to ask my uncle.

I'm like I'm gonna be all can you can you go do this over.

I couldn't do it it just get it scared the crap out of everyone See what I'd be like. Oh, it's, it's there.

It's there. Well, I've seen it it it became

like a it became a bit of a meme and that the makers that made it did do, I think. And then they, they put like,

they put like a cryptic version of it in Doom and you can see it in there. And I'm like, I'm playing like,

oh, it's haunting me, It's here, so.

Yeah, that's still that's still that's still scares me.

Is anything taught her for you as a kid that's still that's still kind of gives you the, it's like, Oh yeah, it's still still scares you. Not as a kid, but recent.

Not not recently, but fast. That's a good luck Five, as I

say, good life. Five.

Five years ago, I was playing Resident Evil on DVR.

And. Without that, I mean come on

really well. That game like it it literally

like Divas taken into obviously to the next level like put you in there like literally in there.

And yeah, I was playing it and there was like obviously when this room and we're going around the corner and then there's this person that you're trying to hide from who's obviously a zombie and then you, you literally, they towed it like turn to do something and you turn and she just pops straight face. Yeah, that.

Yeah, that. That's.

Like, not. That's it.

And then there's another game, actually.

Actually, when I was like it was another game.

Wolfenstein. Yeah, playing that at night,

loud headphones, and you're just there.

And then out of nowhere like something happens like that.

And. That used to be my bonding

sessions with my dad playing Wolfenstein.

I space bar and open the doors for him and he around and do all the shootings. Obviously now goes out the door

and I'm the one pressing the door and.

There are times where you do jump like a maze, so you're making your way and all of a sudden someone pops up.

But yeah, now nowadays, obviously that obviously you had the screen in front of you so like you could see around, you know. But now with the VR, it's just,

yeah, just you're you're like, you're in there, you know, you're like you're like literally in there.

Like it just comes straight in at you and yeah.

I took steps to and you know we should all do this.

This place called 0 Lightnings. And and basically it was only

her and I that were there that we went there early before we went out for dinner and you wearing this headset and you got a gun and you had a. Gun.

Anyway, I just hear you because you can talk to her like just like a like a like head piece on and she obviously we can't see anything else except the game and all of a sudden I just hear a scream, which is like. Start killing zombies and she's

like all the fool, like trying to hide.

I'm like, get up. It's fine.

It is good and it's it's funny. It's funny watching people play

it from the outside. It's hilarious looking up.

No, it's good fun. And they they're like the

viewing area, like they come, they come pretty close to you.

Like, right here. But anyway, just go check on the

quiz. Myself.

And it went on 2 apiece. Tyrone was yet to score and

tonight's winner? By beating me in the last two

questions was was Mr. David Prince water?

Well done that. The movie ones I see so few

movies in in their their entire project.

David Green Green is nice. Green is nice.

Green is nice from running on empty.

Yeah, I always remember that. What colour is it?

It's green, green. Green is nice.

He is nice. Um, call me.

Call me. That's that's you remember

watching as a kid and there's like you know the scene where the main people get it on and my uncle just just seems like stopped it fast forwarded to like a minute and play it again so. Like you don't say that.

Like, oh, OK. Anyway, general, I think it's a

podcast. Right now.

Thank you. Matthew.

Good discussion gentleman. Any Car Talk?

Top tips about the EV space if you want.

If you want to buy an EV, do it. Just don't park it in a house.

Is that is that a cattle top tip?

You just charge it away from your house.

Yeah, yeah, that's that's what you do.

It's good. Extension code.

Next door. Get on next door.

Yeah, leave it out on the road and that's it.

Yeah, plug it in. Plug it in.

Should be right Scotties golf tip all week.

I'll sleep in the week, gonna organise the game, Scotty.

You do. You really do would end

Woodlands. Woodlands.

Really. Good.

And it's good and cheap and quiet, Yeah.

You know I'll come with you guys just to watch how miserable myself would be. So you think.

You think it is but one. Trust me, I thought as well.

But once you pick it up, it's it's.

Enjoyable as you said last week, I should be technically a pro at this point because because you know.

I've learned how to grip the shaft.

I'll learn how to. I've learned how to do all the

different golf techniques you know properly.

So I think. I think it'll be good.

It should be pretty good, I reckon.

Your tip of the week? Control your anger.

Yeah, like. To go on.

Yeah. Gold, Do you mean or just

generally? Generally.

It's tough at the beginning but if you can control that and just think about the next hole or the next shot and stuff, it makes a massive difference. I nearly, I nearly let go of a

few clubs into the into the lake.

I threw one. This is going years back now,

but I love the Golf Club and it got stuck up in the tree.

I spent probably a good 30 minutes trying to see it and find it and then. Launch that Golf Club.

I'm off further than the ball went.

David Prince and Mr Edward Bunting.

You guys do a podcast which is very soon to come back.

Soon. Very soon.

Very soon. Pending a coffee, supposedly,

Yeah. It's called Auto Retro.

You can find it on YouTube and on Spotify.

Pretty much. That's where you can find it,

yeah. Where we talk to people about

the cars of their lives. Season 2 coming soon?

Tyrone, anything you want to spook?

No. Not getting married.

I'm better than everyone else. Green.

Falcon, Screw you. You wanna buy it?

No, 15 grand. I'm reserved for.

I'm reserving saving myself for Alan's straight.

Gas. Oh, egos, egos.

Egos and save myself for that. It blows up.

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