The hosts kick off with internet car trivia and Jaguar design-boss Jerry McGovern’s messy departure/PR saga, then pivot to a big personal update: selling their Zagato 356. There’s also a deep pop-culture tech dive on Kramer’s 1973 Chevy Impala—an early experimental airbag setup—and a debate over whether “H-pattern” feel in an automatic is real or just simulation. The show then reviews Toyota’s 2026 4Runner Trail Hunter, covers a viral malfunctioning restaurant robot, and ends with Ford CEO Jim Farley on F1’s 2026 return, his Pope-delivered Explorer story, Mustang racing, and Ford’s EV strategy (hybrids, eREVs, and affordable EVs).
Spike and the crew cover Gerry McGovern's messy exit from Jaguar, a deep dive into the Toyota 4Runner Trailhunter, and Porsche's wild new shifter patent, before Ford CEO Jim Farley comes on to talk F1 and the Mustang Dark Horse SC.
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This week on SCR, it's a full lap through car world chaos: Jaguar's PR nightmare over Gerry McGovern's departure, a legit review of the new Toyota 4Runner Trailhunter from Jonny, and Porsche patenting a shifter that tries to be both automatic and manual (bold move).
The SCR Garage is selling their rare Zagato to fund the next project, and we find out that Kramer's car on Seinfeld was one of the first production vehicles with a working airbag.
Ford CEO Jim Farley is one of the most car-obsessed executives in the industry, and it shows. He breaks down why Ford partnered with Red Bull for their F1 power unit, what tech actually transfers from the track to your driveway, and why Formula 1's growth isn't slowing down anytime soon. Farley also gets into IndyCar's uphill battle, the 2026 Mustang Dark Horse SC, Ford's all-hybrid and EREV future, and his personally-delivered black Ford Explorer to Pope Leo.
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Timestamps:
00:00 - Alfa Romeo-Gate
01:33 - Jaguar's PR keeps getting worse
04:46 - We're selling the Zagato?
10:12 - Kramer's car from Seinfeld
16:08 - Porsche's manual AND auto gearbox patent
23:51 - Toyota 4Runner Trailhunter review
34:05 - Robot malfunction fails
40:10 - Introducing Ford CEO Jim Farley
40:37 - Ford in F1
43:42 - IndyCar
44:59 - Pope Leo's Ford Explorer
48:32 - Ford Mustang Dark Horse SC
54:59 - Are EVs in America dead?
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"...Jerry McGovern from Jaguar has announced he is indeed leaving..."
Jaguar is a car brand known for luxury and performance cars. Here it’s mentioned because the CEO/leadership situation at Jaguar is part of the news.
Jaguar is the British luxury and performance car brand that competes in areas like sports cars and motorsport. In this segment, Jaguar is mentioned in connection with leadership changes affecting the company’s direction.
"...this has to be the poster child for some of the worst PR handling I've ever seen in my life. This whole thing..."
PR handling is how a company talks to the public about news. If they communicate poorly, people get confused and trust can drop.
“PR handling” refers to how a company manages public relations—especially how it communicates sensitive news like executive departures. Poor PR handling can create confusion, rumors, and reputational damage.
"Before we get too deep in the show, Jim Farley, the CEO of Ford is on. Here we are making fun of with Jerry McGovern... Zuckerman and I have decided to fund this car by selling this car."
Ford is a big car company in the US. They bring up Ford’s CEO to talk about where the company is headed.
Ford is a major American automaker and one of the largest global manufacturers. The segment frames the discussion around Ford’s CEO Jim Farley and ties it to broader topics like the company’s future direction.
"It is our Zagato 356... One of nine from Segato."
Zagato is a well-known Italian company that makes special, limited-run car designs. Cars with Zagato bodies are often rare and collectible.
Zagato is an Italian design and coachbuilding house that’s known for limited-run, bespoke bodies and lightweight construction. In enthusiast circles, a Zagato-bodied Porsche is often treated as a collectible because of its rarity and distinctive styling.
"...we were flying down to Pebble Beach... And I had been offered this car."
Pebble Beach is a big, famous car event where collectors show and sell rare cars. Mentioning it signals this is a high-end collector-car story.
Pebble Beach is a famous luxury car event in California, known for high-end concours judging and major collector-car auctions. The segment uses it to set the context for how the car was sourced and discussed among collectors.
"And can I ask what the ballpark price ranges? Again, for all of your questions, the Scott Rulo. It's not inexpensive. Oh, I imagine it's not."
They’re talking about rough price estimates. With rare cars, the exact price can vary, so sellers often quote a range instead of one fixed number.
“Ballpark price ranges” refers to giving approximate pricing rather than a precise number. In high-end or auction-driven car sales, buyers often ask for a range because final pricing depends on condition, provenance, and market demand.
"We did this one. This is the best looking one. We picked the right color aspect with it. You need to win the wheels, everything we turn key, turn key ready to go."
“Turn-key ready” means you can buy it and drive it right away. It’s not a project that needs a bunch of work first.
“Turn-key ready” means the car is prepared and ready to use immediately, with no major work required before driving or showing. In collector-car sales, it usually implies the car is sorted mechanically and cosmetically.
"...like in the late 80s, early 90s of people not wearing their seatbelts that live through horrible accidents."
Seatbelts keep you from flying forward in a crash. If you don’t wear them, the crash forces can be much worse even if the car has airbags.
Seatbelts are the primary restraint system that keep occupants from moving forward during a crash. In older vehicles, not wearing them can lead to occupants striking the interior, which then determines whether airbags can help or whether injuries become severe.
"Really? Because these airbags went off and they had no idea... But the thing is like airbags today are smart... This had no sensors. This is a shotgun shell."
Airbags are safety cushions that pop out in a crash to protect your body. Newer cars control when and how they deploy, but older ones could be less precise.
Airbags are supplemental restraint systems that deploy rapidly during certain crashes to reduce head and chest impact. The discussion highlights that older airbags could deploy without the modern sensor logic that tailors deployment to crash severity and occupant position.
"What a show we got for you, ladies and gentlemen.
[968.9s] Porsche filed an interesting patent for a shifter this week that I thought was a really
[972.7s] cool idea."
Porsche is a car company that makes performance sports cars. Here they’re being talked about because they filed a patent for a new kind of gear shifter.
Porsche is a German automaker known for performance cars and motorsport. In this segment, they’re mentioned as filing a patent related to a new type of gear shifter.
"You now have an H pattern with a clutch. This wouldn't be the first time that we've seen this."
A clutch is what you press to change gears in a manual car. It temporarily disconnects the engine from the wheels so you can shift without grinding.
A clutch is the mechanical connection between the engine and the transmission in a manual car. It lets you disengage power while shifting gears, then re-engage smoothly to avoid driveline shock.
PDK is Porsche’s name for its dual-clutch automatic transmission. It’s designed to shift quickly and smoothly without you operating a clutch pedal.
PDK stands for Porsche Doppelkupplung, Porsche’s dual-clutch transmission system. It’s central to the debate because the speaker compares the “best” transmission idea to PDK and argues about offering both manual and dual-clutch.
"It's still an automatic transmission. Then you're just saying, go into second, go into third, go on the fourth."
An automatic car changes gears by itself. You don’t have to press a clutch pedal to make it shift.
An automatic transmission shifts gears for you without a traditional clutch pedal. In modern cars, the shift timing is controlled by sensors and an electronic control unit (ECU).
"This is from the site, race deck. Race deck installs in just hours. As you can see, he's not dealing with any toxic epoxy coatings or adhesive mess."
Race deck is a type of garage floor made from interlocking tiles. The pitch here is that it’s easy to install and strong enough to handle very heavy vehicles.
Race deck is a modular garage flooring system that’s marketed as quick to install and clean compared with traditional coatings. In this segment, it’s discussed in terms of load capacity for heavy vehicles.
"It's actually Old Man Emu is from the 70s. ARB is Australian off-road out for the bottom of the 90s."
Old Man Emu makes off-road suspension parts. It’s a well-known brand in Australia that helps vehicles handle rough roads better.
Old Man Emu is an Australian off-road suspension brand known for lift kits and shock absorbers designed for rough terrain. When someone says it’s “from the 70s,” they’re pointing to the brand’s long history in the off-road parts world.
"ARB is Australian off-road out for the bottom of the 90s. And the roof racks, ARB. So you get some real kit on this."
ARB is a company that makes off-road gear. People use their parts to make SUVs more capable for trails and long trips.
ARB (Air Locker) is an Australian off-road parts company best known for lockers and a wide range of expedition gear like roof racks and bull bars. In this segment, ARB is referenced as the source for roof racks and “real kit” for off-road use.
"you can see that where Toyota puts the battery, [1652.1s] eats pretty heavily into the cargo space. [1654.9s] So there's like a, there's like a four inch kind of lump."
Cargo space is how much room you have in the back for bags, tools, or gear. If the battery takes up space, you lose some of that room.
Cargo space is the usable volume for luggage and gear, typically measured behind the rear seats and/or in the trunk. Hybrid battery placement can reduce this space, which is especially noticeable on vehicles marketed for adventure use.
"Now it does have a built-in air compressor, which is cool. Oh, that's nice. Oh, I like that. Yeah, that's good."
Some cars have a built-in pump that can add air to tires. Off-roaders like it because they can lower tire pressure for grip, then pump it back up later.
An onboard air compressor lets the vehicle inflate tires and air up accessories without needing a separate pump. It’s especially useful for off-roading where tire pressures may be adjusted for traction and then restored for the road.
"Yeah. Every week. Yeah. And it's, I've, you know, look, Rivian comes standard with one. It's a great feature."
Rivian is a company that makes electric trucks and SUVs. Here they’re mentioned because their vehicle includes a built-in air pump for off-road use.
Rivian is an EV and adventure-focused automaker known for trucks and SUVs designed for off-road use. In this segment, the key point is that a Rivian vehicle is described as coming standard with an onboard air compressor.
"[1772.2s] You can see it has three molded pockets [1774.0s] for water bottles. [1775.4s] So, you know, you can get six water bottles [1777.4s] in the door and then there's like a, [1779.3s] there's like a, you know what I mean?"
Water bottle storage refers to dedicated compartments designed to hold bottles securely, typically in doors or center consoles. Here, the speaker describes molded door pockets that can fit multiple bottles, which improves usability during hot-weather trips.
"[1780.6s] It's, no, it's, no, it's like, [1782.0s] if you're overlanding, it's hand, [1783.3s] like literally we were, [1784.6s] it was a hundred degrees or we were filming."
Overlanding means taking a trip where you’re out for a long time and you need to carry supplies with you. Here, they’re saying the door storage is useful for holding water bottles when you’re traveling in hot weather.
Overlanding is long-distance, self-supported travel—often off the beaten path—where you plan for comfort and supplies for days at a time. In this context, the speaker is talking about door storage designed to carry lots of water during hot-weather trips.
"So it's just, they have handy USB ports in weird places. [1804.5s] So that's like, if you have a radar detector, you can plug it in there."
USB ports in a car let you plug in devices and power them. Here they’re saying the car has USB spots that are easy to reach for gadgets you might use while driving.
Many modern vehicles include USB ports for powering and connecting accessories. In this context, the speaker is pointing out that the ports are placed conveniently so you can plug in devices like a radar detector or a tablet.
"So if off road into your thing, is a trail hunter or a TRD Pro forerunner better than a Land Cruiser? ... He goes out in the off roads."
Off-road capability is about how well a vehicle handles unpaved terrain like trails, rocks, and mud. The conversation frames off-road as a lifestyle choice—comparing trims and discussing taking cars “outside” onto off-road routes.
"Brought the Rivian so that everyone says, you know, what do I need for recovery gear? [1896.0s] The best thing you need is another vehicle."
Recovery gear is stuff you bring so you can help a vehicle get unstuck if it gets in trouble. It can include towing tools, but sometimes the simplest help is having another vehicle nearby.
Recovery gear is equipment used to get a vehicle back on track after getting stuck, rolling, or otherwise becoming immobile. Common examples include tow straps, shackles, winches, and traction aids, but the speaker’s point is that having another vehicle can be the most effective “recovery” option.
"The best thing you need is another vehicle. So if this thing rolls over, they'll take you to the hospital."
A rollover is when a car flips onto its side or roof. Off-roading can increase the risk, so people plan for what to do if it happens.
A rollover is when a vehicle tips onto its side or roof, usually caused by steep angles, loss of traction, or obstacle impacts. Off-road trips often emphasize minimizing rollover risk through route choice and having support ready if it happens.
"[1975.8s] and have a nice little lunch and get out and bikes and ride [1978.4s] and try not to get run over by a trophy truck flying over your head."
A trophy truck is a big off-road race truck built to jump and drive fast over rough desert terrain. The speaker is saying you have to be careful because those trucks can come by really fast.
A trophy truck is a purpose-built off-road race truck designed for desert racing, typically with long-travel suspension and high ground clearance. The speaker’s “flying over your head” comment highlights how fast and loud these vehicles can be near riders.
"[1981.7s] What's nice about Hungry Valley too, real quick, [1983.2s] is they do have motorcycle only trails. [1985.5s] So if you're learning, you can stay on those."
Some places have trails that are only for motorcycles. That helps beginners because there are fewer surprises and it’s safer than mixing with other vehicles.
Motorcycle-only trails are designated paths meant to keep riders separated from other vehicle types. That matters for safety and for learning because traffic patterns are more predictable.
"ODew assists in accounting, marketing, inventory,
HR, CRM, manufacturing, and everything in between.
All right.
So I guess the end is going to be all the robots."
ODew is a business software tool. It’s meant to help companies run things like inventory, customer info, and HR in one place, instead of using lots of separate programs.
ODew is presented as a software platform that helps manage business operations like accounting, marketing, inventory, HR, CRM, and manufacturing. The pitch emphasizes an “open source applications” approach and a lower cost compared with other “disconnected platforms.”
"ODew assists in accounting, marketing, inventory,
HR, CRM, manufacturing, and everything in between."
CRM is software for managing customers. It helps a business keep track of who customers are and what’s happening with sales or support.
CRM stands for Customer Relationship Management. It refers to software used to track and manage customer interactions—like leads, sales, and support—so a business can coordinate its customer-facing activities.
"And we're learning even more, [2526.2s] especially around additive manufacturing. [2528.9s] We've flown a lot of parts"
Additive manufacturing is 3D printing parts. It lets engineers make prototypes faster and sometimes create shapes that are difficult to make the usual way.
Additive manufacturing is 3D printing of parts using materials layered together. In motorsport and engineering, it speeds prototyping and enables complex geometries that can be hard to machine conventionally.
- Alfa Romeo-Gate
- Jaguar's PR keeps getting worse
- We're selling the Zagato?
- Kramer's car from Seinfeld
- Porsche's manual AND auto gearbox patent
- Toyota 4Runner Trailhunter review
- Robot malfunction fails
- Introducing Ford CEO Jim Farley
- Ford in F1
- IndyCar
- Pope Leo's Ford Explorer
- Ford Mustang Dark Horse SC
- Are EVs in America dead?
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Welcome to Spikes car radio. We have a terrific show for you. I wanted to go through some
of the stuff from last week just to Zuckerman has to issue a correction here over his alpha.
I didn't quite know. I don't know alphas that well. Neither do I. But someone I guess you
said the alpha was a junior and it's not it's not okay because some who told you it was
a junior somehow feasty. So first night when I first posted about the car, I called a GTV
right 1750 and somebody said, Oh, no, no, no, the below chase are only this kind of car,
that kind of car, that kind of cars a junior. And stupidly, I believe this guy was just a
rando rando. And then so I figured this guy being an alphas D as he as he termed himself
knew better than me. But he didn't. He didn't. He didn't. He didn't know better than me. It's
okay. I always say to stop talking to people on the internet. You got to stop. But I figure
maybe I could have learned something. This is my first, you know, the first time I'm getting this
car. Yeah, I was going to say for that is true. Right. But I had an alpha for two minutes. But
you're looking for little pieces of gold and information. Yes, I'm willing to learn generally.
I'm willing to learn. But this guy, see, this guy sold me out. This guy, this guy fucked me over.
Why do you tell him? What do you say his name right now? I don't remember his name. And I think
he was with goodwill. I don't think he was malicious. I think he was just misinformed.
Misinformed. Well, pretty good. All right. Well, now we've got that out of the way.
I don't want to spend too much time on this, but Jerry McGovern from Jaguar has announced he is
indeed leaving. Just catch up to this story. Hello, sir. Remember, remember they said he was
fired and then Jaguar said, no, he's not. He's not leaving the company. He plans on staying. Well,
no, now he's leaving again. I mean, if you somewhere teach PR out in the world of colleges or
universities, this has to be the poster child for some of the worst PR handling I've ever seen in
my life. This whole thing. This is a disaster that just continues to get sort of they had just
wait, they had been quiet for so like for what months now for two or three months and it was
working. The quiet was working. Just be quiet. Jerry, we love you, but you should have just
sulked away and not said anything. Well, here we are again. It's not that he's the jet. He like
I don't really want to comment on it. He never designed a Jaguar. He was appointed to the JLR
design boss. So he got fucked. No, he just quit. He's like, you know, he's like old. He's done.
He's retired. Doesn't look old in that picture. It's good hair dye. I don't believe he exists.
I believe this is AI. Is he the same as Jaguar is just on a whole nother level. We're making fun
of them. And really, they don't exist. No, they don't exist. They're like Fisker with this person.
There's no guy named Jerry McGovern who wears red velvet blazers with a black turtleneck. Look,
it's fake. It's clearly fake. A friend of mine who works at Jag was like, he's like, you know, we
spent like $200,000 making that video and we got $1 billion worth of promo out of it.
Well, this thing is bad PR. So of course, by comparison, we spent $50 on Jerry's red
velvet blazer. It was a friend told him. From Friar Talks. He does dress like that.
Friar Talks. And we got $10 billion of free press from Spikes Car Radio.
So who's laughing now? We're going to revive the Friar Talks brand.
Before we get too deep in the show, Jim Farley, the CEO of Ford is on. Here we are making fun of
with Jerry McGovern. We'll have to ask Jim about Jerry McGovern. Get his take on this whole thing.
Get his take on Friar Talks. But he has a new season of his podcast with,
he always has the greatest guests in the world. Like I have pretty good guests,
not today, but most shows. You mean not Jim.
And not McFriar and Nor Friar Talks. And not that Farley guy.
I love who's on the show. It's always the people I just want to talk to.
He's always got, you look at his lineup is always like Matthew McConaughey, Jimmy Fallon.
He gets, he gets access. So I'm excited to find out who's going to be on this next season of the
show. One other program note to mention. And I don't know, oh, you can't see it right there in
the background. There's an orange car right there. Oh, you're poking it. Stop poking my car.
Oh, that feels so cool. Zuckerman and I have decided to fund this car by selling this car.
And here it is. We've alluded to it. You've maybe have seen it on the internet.
It is our Zagato 356. And I know. Big news. I know it hurts, everybody. I could have
brought it to the studio today, but it's goddamn it. It's hot. I didn't want to try it. It's really
hot and I didn't have time. But it's, we feel like what's up. I mean, this is a, we have,
we have this special car. We just found this next special car.
Right. This is okay. From Inception, if you recall, we were flying down to Pebble Beach. No,
we were going to, we were going to Scott, were we going to Pebble or Scottsdale with?
We're going to Pebble. We're going to Pebble. And we were landing and I had been offered this car.
And this is. And I passed on it. We didn't know what it was. And then we were reading the Porsche
magazine and they had seven pages on it. And you said famously, buy that shit now. And I forgot
famously, but that's 10 years, almost 10 years ago. 10 years ago. So a decade of this car
in our lives, which is a pretty long time and it's a wonderful car. One of nine from Segato.
The only one we feel that's properly sorted. I think maybe Ben Climbers, I think he went
through the process of properly sorting too. We had Will White go through this car.
Right. This car is amazing. Super 90 engine, which is the original chassis and car that it was built
on top of. I think, I remember the call with Will Hoyt when he said, he goes,
why go to 90? Why not 125? I go, yeah, sure. Go ahead. 125 horsepower, 1800 pounds. It is
the greatest gentleman racer you'll ever drive. I remember clearly, we pulled out of Cafe Lux
sometime. I was in my 93 C2, 964, which is no slouch. Yeah. I would, you would, you floored it
out of there and I could not keep up. I was flooring it. I was going through the gears and
this thing was going faster than that car, which I think at the time did 0 to 60 in about five
seconds. Yeah. So this was, this is going, you're in a, you know what, 1700 pound car going 0 to
60 in four seconds. That really, you know, I just remember driving with Jerry and he's got his 550
and everybody's taking pictures of this. Yeah. Oh really? Oh yeah. This is the first official
car that of, that Morris Solomon's is selling. People accuse us of not having a legitimate
dealership. Well, here it is. Here it is. Don't accuse us. Don't accuse us. But you left the,
you part with your money. There's the most important part. Okay. Zuckerman and I aren't
handling the sale of this. Our lead salesman, Scott Rulo. That's right. Is handling it.
Scott Rulo. Who is Scott Rulo? Who is Scott Rulo? Right here is Scott's Instagram handle
and you can DM him and ask him questions and if there's anything he doesn't know about it,
he's going to punt us and he'll handle it. Yes. He's done some unbelievable work. He's
got a network of people that you would not believe and we're going wide with it. We decided, you
know, you know, we love bring a trailer. We love these other sites. Sure. The super car Blondie
wanted this car. Everybody wanted this car. Right. So Scott will handle all conversations.
And can I ask what the ballpark price ranges? Again, for all of your questions,
the Scott Rulo. It's not inexpensive. Oh, I imagine it's not. But it is not outrageous.
But when you compare it to say a four cam or a five 50, I mean, that's really what
I noticed with this car is I'm driving with Jerry Seinfeld. He's in a very rare, famous
five 50 is a fast people are taking pictures of our car. Yeah. And by the way, I've driven that
five 50 and you know, it's an amazing thing, but it doesn't drive like this. Yeah. It does not drive.
This is drivable. What's what's the five 50 worth these days? Seven, six million. No, no, it depends.
But it would be some some millions, millions. Yeah. And this one, yeah, I will comment.
We did this one. This is the best looking one. We picked the right color aspect with it. You need
to win the wheels, everything we turn key, turn key ready to go. I would recommend a better photo
of it. But yeah, we were going to wait. I like that picture. That was a nobleman magazine. That
was a nice that's a nice photo. It's got it's interesting to me. Anyway, yeah,
we'll bring it. So said the art dealer. I don't particularly care for that photo. I had an art
I had an art gallery. Okay, don't start gentlemen. Or I've had over 20 years of professional
experience taking photos of fucking cars. What rules? What do I know? What do I know about anything?
I don't know. Jim Farley from Ford is going to be on suit and he's a terrific guest. He's going
to be telling us about his new podcast. Let's go to this first. I thought this was kind of
interesting because it kind of falls into the comedy and cars category. That's us. That's us,
right? Well, how about this Kramer's Asman car and Seinfeld is actually a very rare experimental
73 Chevy Impala. Now, I know the car very well. We shot with this car a lot. And it was the one
car that we used for Michael Richards character Kramer in the show. Do you guys know it was in
the few silly Jerry Kramer gets this car that's got this license plate by mistake that says
Asman but learns to embrace it when he realizes he can park in doctor spots around New York City
and they think he's a proctologist, right? Well, Kramer's actual car is literally one of the first
cars ever produced with functional airbag and only a thousand were made. An eagle eyed editor at
Motor Trend. No way. Not Johnny Lieberman. Notice that interior shots of Kramer's car. I don't watch
Seinfeld. Go ahead. Show the steering wheel is fairly unique, larger design with four spokes.
The standard Impala had a 73 in 73 had a smaller two spoke design. This indicates that Kramer's
car is fitted with an early version of an airbag called the air cushion restraint system.
The ACRS was included. Here's the weird part. Okay. The ACRS was included in about 1000 Impala's
manufactured in 1973 as an experiment. They must have manufactured 700,000 in that year. They were
only available to government fleet customers for testing. This one was one of the first times a
major automaker attempted to include an airbag into a car and 74 Chevy made ACRS an option in
some of their other models, but discontinued ACRS the following year after it was installed only on
10,000 cars. Chevy would not put airbags in cars again until 88. That's right, Johnny. Airbags weren't
even legally required in the U.S. until 98. Lea Koka had a whole bonus chapter in his biography,
which was subsequently removed about how airbags will bankrupt Detroit. And then once it was mandated,
he was like, Kramer's the first with airbags and all their products.
Oh, wow. Look at that. Well, Kramer's car was there for a little more than a tricked
out standard Impala. Those models with ACRS also had reinforced chassis, improved suspension,
and the same V8 that the Corvette had at the same time. Kramer's car.
I want one now.
And they, you know, I wish I could shed some more light on how this car was acquired,
but it was through just one of those television car companies that provided cars to us.
But they, they guessed that this 73 Impala was probably sold at a government auction
and the company that leases the cars for TV production swooped it on up.
Well, a couple things. So there's lots of cases. I mean, they're all scrapped now, but like in the
late 80s, early 90s of people not wearing their seatbelts that live through horrible accidents.
Really? Because these airbags went off and they had no idea. They got the car, you know,
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