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Hey it's Daily Drive executive producer Jake Nier here in Detroit. Thank you so much for joining
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this bonus episode of the show. Earlier this week on Daily Drive we heard from Windsor Mayor
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Drew Dilkins about President Trump's threat to block the opening of the Gordy Howe International
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Bridge between Detroit and Windsor. That bridge is already built. It's ready to open. But the
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threat is adding another layer of uncertainty for auto companies that rely on cross-border supply
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chains, which is pretty much all of them. We also heard a short sound bite from Glenn Stevens.
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He's the executive director of Mish Auto with the Detroit Regional Chamber. That organization
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represents all kinds of suppliers and other auto companies here in Michigan that are very much
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affected by that. He and I talked about what this means for companies trying to make investment
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decisions while juggling tariff threats, USMCA renegotiations, and now this bridge dispute.
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Wanted to bring you that full conversation today. Here you go.
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I go back to January 20th of last year when the America First Trade Policy Act was issued.
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Since then we've had a lot of sound bites and a lot of true social posts and so we're used to that.
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So the first reaction is oh here's a new one but let's not overreact either. But this one is kind
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of out of left field and we subsequently kind of think why we know why that happened. But it's
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concerning at the same time too because we are all pointing towards this bridge being an enabler
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in a variety of different ways. So I think calmer heads will prevail and we'll get there. But it is
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a new wrinkle and it does provide more uncertainty to which the businesses in our industry do not need.
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Yeah, that's for sure. Especially suppliers have had a really tough time with planning
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over the last year or so. You mentioned that companies are heads down trying to make parts,
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deliver parts, and make vehicles. Let's say this bridge delay drags on for weeks or even months.
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I know it's sort of the status quo right now but what are the real world consequences for
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an auto supplier trying to hit these just-in-time delivery schedules right now?
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Right. So as you know, we have other crossings. We have had them for many years. We have all
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the way up to the Bluewater region. We have crossings. And of course we have the ambassador.
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We have the rail system tunnels. So goods and services do move, right? However, there's a lot
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of friction. There's a lot of wait times. 10,000 trucks a day at its high point. That's a lot of
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trucks on one bridge. I think the Bluewater is about 6,000 trucks a day. So that's a lot of traffic.
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So it doesn't disrupt something that doesn't exist right now because this is a bridge that's not
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open. But this bridge does enable better, faster, quicker, and safer, and more secure
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because of the way it's constructed, the way it's designed and engineered. I mean, if you visually
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look at it, you see it. But if you really understand that, and I've been getting updates from the iron
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workers to Local 25 for quite some time, the intelligent transportation systems that are
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built into this, it provides a lot more security for our borders. And that's something that the
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administration wants, both administration wants. So I think at the end of the day, it's going to
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make the commerce better and safer in a lot of different ways. But it's not disruptive because
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it hasn't opened yet. So going back to the uncertainty factor of all this, no business leader
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obviously wants that everyone wants to be able to plan. But in terms of how these issues have
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stacked, right? We've got tariff threats, USMCA renegotiation starting in July, some speculation
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that the United States could even pull out of USMCA. And now this bridge fight for Michigan
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Auto Company is juggling all these at once. What's the calculation they're making about
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future investments, especially in cross-border operations? Well, I think a lot of future
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investments have been on hold because of the uncertainty. There have been some that have
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broken free and some companies have made some reshoring investments. But wholesale,
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a lot of folks are, for example, waiting for what happens with USMCA. But if you are moving
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parts back and forth between Canada and the US and you are relying on a system that's going
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to get more efficient, you're probably going to take pause again because you have another
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wrinkle in this to see what happens. And again, it all boils down to, you know, you cover this
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business. These are long lead time complex supply chains. And you don't make capital decisions
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lightly in this business. And so it all kind of factors in and stacks up. And that's why this
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uncertainty word comes into play again with this post the other night. Do you have any other
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thoughts that you want to share? Well, I think the most important thing is that we are all still
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focused on a stronger USMCA and improved USMCA agreement with regards to the Canadian industry,
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the Mexican industry, the US industry. It's evolved. It's developed. Will there be changes to it?
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Yes. But as a unit in the United States, Canada, Mexico, for this continent, we're stronger together.
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And that's our hope is that we get to that point. A lot of negotiations, a lot of give and take,
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still to go. But that's what we're really focused on still. Glenn Stevens, thanks for joining us
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on Daily Drive. Thanks, Jake. Good to see you. Thanks for listening to this bonus episode of
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Daily Drive. We'll be back on Monday with a brand new full episode of the show.