The Ford Cortina was a common family car model. In the podcast, they’re talking about Ford changing the name to something else. It’s mentioned as a historical detail about how the model line evolved.
The BMW 3 Series is a normal-size car made for everyday driving. People talk about it a lot because it’s designed to feel fun to drive, not just comfortable. It might be mentioned because someone really likes it and keeps thinking about it.
What Car is a car magazine in the UK. In the episode, it’s the magazine that helped spark the host’s interest in cars.
Concept
Seagrove trophy
The Seagrove Trophy is a niche car racing event name. The point here is that the internet makes it much easier for younger fans to find information about obscure motorsport.
BMW 728i is a model of BMW’s 7 Series. It’s the kind of older BMW a lot of enthusiasts remember because it was a common “daily driver” for people who liked cars.
The BMW 7 Series is a big luxury car meant for comfort and an easy, smooth ride. It’s designed for long trips and high-end features. The podcast is mentioning it through a personal memory of seeing one during work experience.
They’re saying you can genuinely love a car even if it’s not the prettiest or the fastest. It’s about how it makes you feel and the memories you build with it.
The Mazda MX-5 (Miata) is a lightweight, front-engine, rear-wheel-drive roadster famous for being fun and easy to drive. Here it’s mentioned as an example of a car that can be “perfect from every angle,” but the host emphasizes that emotional connection matters more than looks alone.
The Renault 5 Raider is a specific version of the Renault 5 small hatchback. The host is talking about his first company car and how it became important to him because it gave him independence and great memories.
The Renault 5 E-Tech Electric is a small car that runs on electricity instead of petrol. It’s meant for everyday driving and is based on the idea of the older Renault 5. The podcast is bringing it up as a car someone bought and lived with.
Concept
First Overland
The “First Overland” is an early long-distance trip by road. In this story, it leads into the details of the expedition and the modified Land Rovers that made it happen.
This was a famous long trip in the 1950s by students from Oxford and Cambridge. The point in the conversation is that it shows how people prepared vehicles for a huge journey—and why that kind of adventure feels special.
The Ford Expedition is a large SUV made for carrying people and gear. It’s meant for trips and everyday practicality, not just city driving. The mention in the podcast sounds like they’re talking about the name and what it suggests.
A Land Rover Series I is an old-school off-road vehicle made for rough terrain. Here, it’s being used as the expedition car—modified so it could travel a very long way with extra fuel and tougher suspension.
Long wheelbase means the car’s wheel-to-wheel distance is longer. That usually makes it feel steadier and helps when you need to carry lots of gear for a long trip.
Suspension is what helps the wheels stay in contact with the road over bumps. Upgrading it for a trip like this helps the vehicle handle rough ground and extra weight.
“Curbing” a wheel means scraping the tire or wheel against a curb. It often leaves visible damage like scuffs on the rim and can also affect tire sidewalls or wheel alignment, which is why it can bother an enthusiast every time they notice it.
“Tracking on the steering” is basically whether the car goes straight when you want it to. If it feels off, it can be a sign the alignment isn’t set correctly, so the car doesn’t behave the way it should.
“Service is overdue” means the car’s scheduled maintenance hasn’t been done on time. That can lead to small issues building up, and it can make you feel like you’re not taking care of the car properly.
The “turnaround test” is an enthusiast shorthand for whether a car is so visually appealing that you instinctively look back at it as you walk away. The speaker argues that using this as a strict cutoff is too harsh, because some cars are loved for usefulness or emotional value rather than constant admiration.
The Toyota Land Cruiser is a large SUV meant for rough roads and long trips. It’s popular because it’s built to last and handle difficult conditions. The speaker is describing it as a favorite they remember well.
Car navigation is the built-in system that helps you get to a place using maps and GPS. Here, the car’s voice system can’t understand what the driver is asking it to do.
They’re saying the car’s voice system starts acting like a chat assistant—talking back instead of just doing the task. If it doesn’t understand what you mean, it can get stuck or shut off.
A head-up display shows important info in front of you on the windshield. The idea is to keep your eyes on the road instead of looking at the dashboard.
CarPlay lets you use your iPhone through your car’s screen and controls. The host thinks it works better than the car’s own built-in infotainment buttons and voice commands.
Voice-activated controls are features where you talk to the car to do things. For example, you can ask it to play music or change settings without pressing buttons.
Bluetooth lets your phone connect wirelessly to the car. Then the car can play your phone’s audio through its speakers and sometimes handle calls hands-free.
Term
hot wire blow dry system
A hot-wire blow-dry system uses heated elements (a “hot wire”) to generate warm airflow for drying. In the transcript it’s described as part of a proposed “sliding toilet” feature, with the implication that it would dry waste using heated air.
Voice control means you talk to the car to do things like change music or set navigation. It’s meant to reduce the need to tap buttons while you’re driving.
Infotainment is the car’s screen system for things like music, maps, and phone features. The concern here is that searching through apps while driving is distracting.
The Mercedes-Benz S-Class is a high-end luxury car, usually aimed at maximum comfort. It’s designed to feel very smooth and quiet, with lots of features. The podcast mentions it as part of a personal experience with a specific S-Class moment.
The Bentley Bentayga is a luxury SUV made by Bentley. It’s designed to be comfortable and upscale, while still being a capable vehicle for everyday use. The podcast is mentioning it in a playful way, focusing on the name and how it gets mixed up.
The Lamborghini Murcielago is a high-performance supercar made by Lamborghini. It’s known for being very powerful and having a bold, recognizable look. The podcast mentions it because someone is recalling their reaction when it was introduced.
The Lamborghini Countach is a famous old supercar from Lamborghini. It’s known for its bold, unusual shape and strong visual impact. The podcast is mentioning it because the name and the car are both very recognizable.
Pagani Huayra is a high-end, track-focused supercar from the Italian brand Pagani, built around an extreme, boutique approach to materials and aerodynamics. The segment is about the correct pronunciation of “Huayra” and how it’s easy to mix up with Pagani’s other famous model names.
Pagani Zonda is Pagani’s earlier, landmark supercar model that helped establish the brand’s reputation for bespoke engineering and extreme performance. The host mentions it as a reference point for how people try to pronounce or recall Pagani model names in sequence.
A “data-driven sport” means teams rely heavily on measurements and computer analysis. Instead of guessing, they use numbers to decide what to do and who fits the car best.
Upgrades are changes teams make to the car—like new parts or aero tweaks—to make it faster. Teams usually hope these changes improve how the car performs on track.
The FIA is the organization that makes and enforces the rules for Formula 1. If they announce rule changes, the teams have to adapt their cars and plans to fit the new rules.
In Formula 1, “hybrid assistance” is extra power coming from an electric/energy-recovery system. If the rules change how strong it is, it can make cars faster in key moments—like when trying to pass.
A “reg change” means the rules for the cars and racing get updated. If it happens soon after a new set of rules starts, teams may have to change their cars again instead of building toward a stable plan.
Concept
new regime
A “new regime” means a fresh set of rules era for Formula 1. If changes are announced too soon, teams can’t fully commit to their original car plans.
An overtake is when one car passes another and gets in front for real. The point here is that if passing becomes harder or less important, the race can feel like cars just trade places instead of truly battling.
Term
purest form of motor racing
They’re talking about the “ideal” kind of racing where the driver matters most and the cars are very similar. The more the cars differ, the less it feels like a pure driver-vs-driver contest.
Concept
catering racing
They’re joking with “catering racing” to make a point: imagine a race where everyone has the same car, so it’s mostly about driving. It’s not meant as a real racing series.
A turbo is a device that helps the engine make more power. It uses the car’s exhaust to “supercharge” the airflow into the engine.
Car
Vauxhall Calibre
The Vauxhall Calibre is a quirky 1980s British car that some people love for its look. It’s not as universally famous as the Escort RS Turbo, but it fits the same era of turbocharged, enthusiast-friendly cars.
The Ford Capri Mark III is a classic 1970s/80s-era British coupe that became famous as a “personal car” with lots of enthusiast aftermarket support. In this segment, the host specifically calls out a 1980 Ford Capri Mark III with a three-litre manual, which is the kind of spec that tends to be sought after at classic car meets.
The Lotus Esprit S3 is a famous 1980s British sports car with a very distinctive shape. The host also points out it’s right-hand drive, which is especially cool for UK fans and shows.
The Audi S3 is a faster, sportier version of a small Audi hatchback. It’s meant to feel more powerful and exciting than the regular model. The podcast is calling it out because it’s a specific performance car example they found interesting.
Right-hand drive means the steering wheel is on the right side of the car. That’s normal in the UK, and it can make a car more desirable for UK buyers.
The Volkswagen Corrado is a classic Volkswagen two-door coupe. It’s remembered for looking cool and for having some interesting performance engine options.
“VR6” is a Volkswagen engine type with a compact V6 design. The speaker is weighing it against another Corrado engine option (G60).
Term
G60
“G60” is a particular version of a Volkswagen engine that uses a supercharger to make more power. The speaker is comparing it to another engine choice (VR6).
A supercharger is a device that forces extra air into the engine so it can make more power. It’s often associated with strong acceleration because it boosts the engine’s breathing.
Left-hand drive means the driver sits on the left side of the car. The speaker likes it because it matches the vibe of certain classic-car trips and events.
The Renault Sport Spider is a small sports car with the top down. It’s built to feel more like a fun weekend car than a practical family car. The podcast mentions it because there’s a story about it during its introduction.
A windscreen is the front glass you look through while driving. This segment is about cars that were run without one, which can be illegal on public roads and is usually only seen in specific racing setups.
A one-make race series is racing where everyone uses the same brand/model of car. The idea is to make the competition more about driving and tuning, not about who has the fastest car.
Term
low scuttle
The scuttle is the front part of the cockpit area near where a windscreen would mount. A “low scuttle” means that front cockpit opening is shaped lower, which can be part of a race-focused design.
The BMW Z3 M Coupe is a small BMW sports car from the 1990s, made to feel more performance-oriented than a regular Z3. Here it’s brought up as one of the cars being considered.
The Renault 21 Turbo is an older Renault that uses a turbocharger to make more power than a normal version. Here, they’re talking about it as a specific car they’d want, but they’re joking that the door count doesn’t fit what they want.
A locking diff (short for a locking differential) is a drivetrain setup that forces the left and right wheels on an axle to rotate together. That helps traction when one wheel loses grip, and it can make an older turbo hot hatch feel more “confident” on imperfect roads.
The Peugeot 309 GTI is an older hot hatch that people buy because it’s fun to drive. Here they’re saying it’s good value—cheap for what it is—and that it drives and handles really well, especially compared to another similar car.
The Peugeot 205 is a classic hot-hatch platform from the 1980s that’s often used as a benchmark for handling and “driver feel.” Here, it’s mentioned as the more expensive comparison point versus the Peugeot 309 GTI, with the hosts claiming the 309 GTI can handle better in some ways.
The Volkswagen Golf is a common small car that many people use every day. Some versions are made to be faster and more fun to drive, and the podcast is talking about one of those performance models. They’re likely focusing on how many miles it has and why that matters.
A two-stroke engine fires once every two piston strokes, which is a different design from most modern engines. Because of how it burns and vents gases, it often sounds louder.
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I mean true, but I was going to say that it's a sleepover every single night with your best friend.
Thailand, Malaya, as it was then, and finally arrived in Singapore. It's 18,000 miles,
averaging approximately 16 miles an hour. And if you watch this video, you'll see things that you
cannot believe in Syria. I saw, did you guys know about something called NEN buses, N-A-I-R-N
buses? They took modified, it's a British invention, they took Buicks and Cadillacs,
modified them into what can only be described as trucks, American trucks. Imagine that connected
to an American diner at the back, so slightly aerodynamic, and passengers went from Damascus
to Baghdad across desert roads and these boys kept up with these NEN trucks. It's incredible,
when they got to bridges in Burma, they had machetes, they'd have to test, test
these bridges, they'd hack away at these bridges, you see them driving over rickety bridges,
bandits in Burma, so they were accompanied by the army till the army cars broke down,
but these landrovers carried on. I mean, it's the most romantic thing you've ever seen. And
the reason why I mention this today is because the podcast is coming out on Friday, which has
made the eighth, and this would not have been possible, nor would filming this, had it not been
for rotary cameras, so clockwork cameras that were pioneered and first used by Richard Attenborough.
And what am I saying? David Attenborough is going to be 100 today.
They could have been Richard. He was a young producer at the BBC, he was a young producer
at the BBC, so Friday he will be 100, and he bet on these boys. They just came to him and he
would like the BBC are supporting you. Here are a couple of clockwork cameras, here's a chunk of money,
go and do us proud. So I know I'm not answering the question, but I've got a lump in my throat,
so I'm going to stop. That's brilliant. Fabulous, fabulous. I want to go and watch that now.
So Link's coming up now. Here you go, that's where you watch it. Go and watch it now.
Chris Cooper. So I think about the petrol station
moment too much, really. And I think about where can I, which pump do I park at? So as I walk away,
I can still see it. So I tend to like to, if you've got like, you know, the rows of pumps and there's
like two or even three, I know, two or even three pumps in a row, I want to park at the one at the
front. So as I walk away, I can see it. So no one's parked in front of it. Because there's that moment
if you like looking back. But in my weird head, there are some things that get in the way.
Is the car clean? If the car isn't clean, it will nag me. It's not looking its best as I walk
into the shop, the kiosk thing to go and pay the bill.
God forbid, if I've curbed a wheel, I can't look at it. It's like a dog that's pooed in the
corner of the kitchen. I can't look at it. I can't, I know it's there. I can't look at it.
Is it, is it love? I think it is love. I'm not sure it's in love, but it's, it's definite sort
of love. And I think I mentioned this before that a car you do happy things in is a really,
really big part of that. So if you don't look back, there are times I don't look back when I think,
oh, I've curbed a wheel or there's just something about it. It's something not visible. I know
that the tracking on the steering is not right. It's in my head, it's not quite the car it needs
to be. I can't look back at it because I've let it down and I need to fix it. And until I do that,
I can't fully enjoy it and absorb it because I know there's something I need to do that I
haven't got around to doing. The service is overdue. That gets in my head. So that,
that look back moment is full of complexity and emotion and sort of the frustrations of life and
getting in the way of, you know, doing all that you should for your car or your cars.
Have you ever saw something, Neil, because you think I haven't looked back on it,
it's gone the moment it's passed? Yeah, yeah.
I could sort of... Yeah, a one-on-one Bentley Continental GT3R. Honestly, it's true. It's for
sale now. I've seen it for sale again. Here it is. And it's done no miles since I sold it. And you
know what? When I bought that car, I thought, oh my God, that's so amazing. It's such an amazing
spec. It's perfect. It's not the white ones. It's not the black ones. I adore it. It's, you know,
blah, bullshit, bullshit. I didn't look back at it. Why not? Because. I tell you, that's such a good
question because it's got that wanky spoiler. And I didn't like the spoiler. The spoiler ruins that car.
Did wonder when you had that. I thought, it's got the spoiler on it. I can't ask him what he thinks.
I did honestly consider, because obviously it's not going to make any difference, is it? Because
I'm not going 200 miles an hour around Milbrook. I did really consider, and this is a podcast
chat, isn't it, slight little modifications to new cars just to improve them because there's one
little thing that's annoying. That's quite a long subject. But I did consider taking that off.
But then I thought, if I take it off and I still don't love it, it's a right bloody
palaver because then it's difficult to sell. You're going to have to put it back on. People
have seen the car without the spoiler. So then it's not all original. The paint's not original.
So then you get caught in a EC Escher trap of maze that you're fucked, aren't you? You can't get out.
So in the end, those thoughts, that can compute in about 10 seconds in our heads, can't it?
You go through all the processes of what you could do and then you come to a point of saying, no,
it's got to be sold. And that was it. Bloody hell, this is so complicated. By the way, before then,
it's a question to all people that host a podcast, how do you stroke your dog under the table when
he approaches you? That's looking like something really bad is going on. So the look back is a bit
of a, yeah, a bit of a Pandora's box for me that because it reminds me that I think I had a traumatic
episode early on in my car owning life. And I never really allowed myself to fall in love again,
because my first car was stolen, I poured all my love into it. And it was, it was pinched and I
couldn't really get my head around it. In fact, that feeds back into the previous conversation,
which was, I couldn't explain to people how hurt I was, because they couldn't understand how I could
be so in love with an inanimate object. I mean, I was weird or making it up or seeking attention,
but I was, it was a total bereavement. And I don't think I've ever really committed
in quite the same way since, as everyone does when they've been hurt, you don't go there again,
do you? I think in the context of looking back at it, I mean, it's such a powerful phrase, but it's
so meaningful. Because to be in love with the motor car, and to have a passion like we do that
many people wouldn't understand, that's a key part of it is turning around and looking at it.
And it's, it's powerful because you know that if anyone saw you doing it, you'd look a bit sad,
but you don't care. Even people lacking self-confidence, if they love their car enough
to turn around and look at it, even if people they know it might make them look a bit silly,
it's one of those few areas of life where it's a bit of a two finger wave, I'm going to look at
my car, don't care what you think or not. And in the modern era, we get one of these things and we
take photos of our cars. I've had people go, I've been taking photos of my cars and people have
gone, why are you taking a photo of your car so sad? And I'll just say, because I love my car.
Yeah. So it is fascinating. But I don't have quite the discipline you guys have in this area,
because I do think it's too harsh a cut off or a denominator to say if it doesn't pass the sort of
turnaround test, it goes because there are cars in our lives that don't have that wow factor and
they're not really looking to be admired. You know, how many times did I turn around and look
at my beloved Land Cruiser, Amazon V8? I didn't really. It was just a part of my life. It was
just an amazing tool that did a job that I appreciated. And I adored it as much as probably
more than many other cars. But it wasn't an object for me. I didn't objectify it by looking at it
in that way. So where I absolutely have a problem is if a vehicle lets me down in a certain way
or in a certain circumstance, it's kind of gone. And if it's if it fails, failing to complete a
journey, it's a bit of a problem for me. Even if it's old, I can be quite irrational and just
it's gone. And it's a bit like, I feel like a very, very brutal friend. You know, you know,
when in the playground that control all the friendships, that bastard, you come to school
one day and they wouldn't talk to you and you'd be like, what have I done? They were just not a
very nice piece of work who got off on controlling your emotions. I feel like that person sometimes
because I go to the shed and there'll be a car in the corner and it's looking at me going,
take me out for a drive, daddy. And I'm like, no, you've balls this up. You didn't work last time.
You're out. You're out the door. And I do feel sometimes a terrible pang of guilt
that I've done that. But the cull for me is not completing a journey. I think to turn around
and look and not feel something isn't enough for me to sell a car. But I totally get
how important that can be. And also, if you're looking at your absolute doyen vehicles,
you know, if you're talking about things that you love, if you do turn around and you see it
differently, well, that's the same as a schism in a marriage, isn't it really? If at one point you
look at someone in a different way, it's hard to come back from that. And I think that's happened
as well. I've definitely had my own chug on. I'm not looking at you the same way anymore. Is it
because the new ones come out? Is it because that ride height's always niggled me? And I sort of put
it to one side? Is it because of the way the last journey went or didn't go that I no longer like
you as much? It is amazing. You can draw this back to the concept of just turning around and
looking at your vehicle. But I do. And I suppose I also read this completely differently. And it
was only when you started answering it that I pivoted there. I thought it was don't look back
as in if you've got stuff from your past, don't look back, you know, flog it and move on. In other
words, have a clear out. So you're all the masters at writing things that can be interpreted in
several different ways. But that one, yeah, that look, I mean, you could write an entire book
called, you could, couldn't you? You could. Yeah, 100%. Yeah. Okay. Voice control.
Why is it still shit? That is a complicated apostrophe there. But it works. It's, yeah,
oh my God, I mean, I don't even know where to begin with this. I can tell you now,
I've never owned a vehicle where I've used it. So let's go first to Chris Cooper.
I don't think it works. I don't think it's ever worked properly. I mean, it was a,
I won't say which vehicle it was, but I was in a vehicle recently,
particularly make a vehicle we think was bound to work.
And I said, I, it was a vehicle I hadn't driven much before. I hadn't redriven at all before.
But it had that little button on the steering wheel, with what looks like an outline of
the person's head with words coming out. I thought that must be the voice control button.
And it was, I was on, I was wrecking before we went to Gaiden, how to get there from a place
I knew we'd be beforehand. So I just thought, I wonder whether it recognizes Gaiden. So I pressed
the button and I thought, well, nothing tells you, how do you start this question? So I just said,
I pressed the button and I sort of paused for a bit. Maybe that's what put it off.
And I said navigation Gaiden. And the voice came out and said, I'm sorry, we don't have any contact
details from Gordon. I said, no, I don't want to telephone Gaiden. I want to get there. And in the
end, I started having like a chat GPT type conversation, pressing this button. And in the
end, it clearly said, I'm sorry, we don't understand the instruction. And it turned itself off. And I
know 20 or years ago, on top gear, they had a slightly sort of fetish as to how
he knows who was, you think, there are so many other aspects of technology and cars and life,
which has got better, but sort of that, I want to go somewhere. Why are you looking for a telephone
number? I don't understand. And chat GPT work. So why is it, is it a running joke? Is it, haha,
let's put that little button on the steering wheel and just wire it up differently. So it says,
Oh, yes, yes. You know, I'm going to Margate or Broadstairs. Oh,
what service would you like your car to be booked in for, sir? It's just like, no, it's just,
am I, have I got this wrong? I just being old and Fuddy Duddy was it? Do you think that she
were? Because I'm with you, Chris, I don't really use it anymore because it's frustrating.
I know. I'm going to ask Neil to answer this while I just quickly check why my dog's walking
around out there. One second, all right. Yeah. Well, when did these buttons start arriving? Sort
of early 2000s. Yeah, it was the big jump. It was the big jump forward and the so-called
technology. It was a bit like the head up display. All of these new things started arriving, didn't
it? And we thought, Oh, you know, it's a brave new world now. We're all going to be sort of,
it's all going to be so much better in the cockpit. And fundamentally, they are all a bit
shit. But I would say since carplay, carplay to me has made a difference because it isn't
the technology that's in built within the car, those silly buttons with the mouth, the face coming
out. They never, ever, ever work. And even God forbid when people say to you, Oh, you know,
you can open the sunroof by just doing this. They've got what I don't even know what German
BMW is it or Mercedes, they've got the hand control thing that you don't even know.
And they utter shit as well. But for me, the Hayes Siri does work. And I think that is quite
clever. And when you do the Hayes Siri, and you get that that voice that comes back,
I think that's really quite cool. And I use that. And it normally works. Please could you play
Radiohead on Spotify? It works. Okay, so the Apple Apple carplay have nailed that there's been a
jump forward on voice control. The car companies never nailed it. But I think carplay possibly
has made it work. Very possible. Manish, have you ever used voice activated controls in a car?
No, my two cars have dials and not digital boards. Neither has carplay. I do have a Bluetooth system
in both, which allows my phone to kind of, you know, plug into the speakers by an amp.
But that's about it. What I did, though, was I found these three things which I thought in some
weird way gives you the spectrum of what's available. Inside EVs report that a Lincoln
co Z 20, when a driver was driving it in China, he asked the internal lights to switch off at night.
So that he could see out of the window and the car switched off the external lights and he had
an accident. And so they're not very happy about that bit of software. There's a hilarious thing
on Instagram where a guy gets into his AMG Mercedes and he says, Mercedes computer.
What do you think of BMWs? And the computer answers, I think of BMWs. As you think of BMWs,
otherwise you wouldn't be driving a Mercedes, sir, which I think is very witty. But the best one
is the BBC reported that Sarah's I think is that how you pronounce it Chinese car company,
they have patented a sliding toilet that's going to come out of the passenger seat.
Yeah, these exhausts and everything else. So there'll be no notches fumes. It has a
flushing system. Apparently blow dries urine. It dries it dry. Yep. And the whole thing will
be voice controlled. What could go wrong? I ask. I think it's blow drying something else,
not the urine. No, no, no, they made a point that it's a hot wire blow dry system to make sure
that there is no urine at all in the pan. I always say, what could possibly go wrong?
I mean, you think about, you know, you probably you probably have to come up with your own phrase,
don't you? For the thing to come out and the thing to Sarah's, I'm going to do a number two.
I don't intend to stop. Here we go. What heating elements required to evaporate a litre of wee?
No, I think the leader of we's going to basically go into the tank. It's so that the actual bowl
itself. Okay, right. So sorry. Okay. Much as I love sort of reducing this podcast to the
the juvenile, I'm not going to go there because I that's ridiculous.
Fading dead. I don't get these things at all. But I'd like to be positive. I'm doing my nail
clip and put my positive hat on. I'm not going to winch. I'm going to tell you two ways in which
this technology has worked for me. The first is vocariously, because I was recently filming on
tenor reef, which if you didn't know it is the windiest place on the planet. I went there.
Lots of people go on holiday there. I don't really get it. It was it was a lovely place.
The sun came out, but it was so windy, you couldn't stand up. So if you don't,
if you're not into windsurfing, I don't know why you'd go there. Anyhow, I was collected by a lovely
woman in a Mercedes V class, and she used her voice control all the time. And it was great to
watch someone who actually it's always good to watch someone operating a product in a way it was
intended. So she had completely embraced this. The computer obviously liked her voice and everything
she did was she just did it by voice and the car responded. And it looked seamless and brilliant.
Do I think for a minute it would have liked my voice or I would have had the patience to use it
not for a second, but it was great to watch someone use it correctly.
The other the other situation which really did make me very grateful for it was I was in a
BMW of some sort, a very one of the new ones that just has the massive screen that goes right the
way across the dashboard. And you have a sort of you got a home button and to the right of it is
the squares and the squares bring up all the apps for the car. There are 100 maybe more and it's just
not safe to search these things or look for something when you are driving just you can't
it may be much safer to sit and text someone on your phone because it's so complicated. And I
thought I think I was looking for something quite specific like tire pressure or monitoring or something.
And I thought I'll press the speaking mouth button and I'll ask for it and it found it for me.
So actually in the increasingly de-buttoned world of the car interior one can find buried
functionality in a way that you wouldn't otherwise. So those are the useful things and I also have to
sort of revert to type and say that I think for the most part it's an absolute waste of money
and I don't get it. I've never got it at all but it's been going for a long long time. You get
into cars that are 20 years old and they've got the speaking mouth button. And I've never actually
met anyone beyond a couple of taxi drivers that actually use it have you?
No, no, no, no. It's the only way it's the way you connect to car play. The only reason you
use that button is quite often car play says that you have to hold that down.
Yeah, okay. I suppose when I read that on the agenda I thought I've got no interest in that at
all. It's one of those ones where I thought they're not interested.
But have you ever been on a car test, you know, one of these sort of new car BMW Mercedes things
where they tell you how amazing these things or the hand-controlly thing to open the sunroof?
Mate, I stopped doing car launches of stuff like that probably before that came.
That's sort of a post-lockdown thing really. I remember having an S-class lady sitting in
and the driver, good old Mike the driver, was sort of doing this with his hand and
was going off and he was like, what's going on here? It was confusing. But yeah, that's another
subject. I do remember when car makers try and demonstrate their new technologies and it goes
wrong, there was obviously the live feed where Volvo put out a live feed to watch a car of its
do a reverse part manoeuvre live autonomously. That was a long time ago. So we all sat and watched
on sort of 240p on a screen in the office and it just drove straight on and I think it
reversed straight into another car. It was like a monster python sketch. It was terrible.
And the Mazda Demio launch stands to mine as well. It was in Berlin and they wanted to
demonstrate a new navigation system it came with. So they inputted this into the Mazda Demio and
you just drove off and none of us made it back for the meal. Because we were all just completely
lost and had to find the hand line going back. It was just hopeless. In Germany, I love that.
It was again, Monty Python jump of the 100 meters for people with no sense of direction when it
goes off and it was like that. Demio spread around Berlin. But yeah, they never, it's a really good
point Neil. I never had a car maker encourage us to use that function. It was there. They never
really encouraged us to. Okay, let's move on to mispronounced Carnate. I'm going to go straight
to Mr. Bentayaga because he's the king of this. And I think, and I love the way sometimes Neil
will just plow on with a name because that's what he said. The name is what it says in your head,
not what's on the back of the car. So tell us how you feel about this, Neil.
Yeah. I suppose, I suppose it's the, it's the dyslexia, basically. And therefore,
words come out differently for me often. And yes, I've merged the Bentayga with Balenciaga.
So I've put both of my two little worlds of the fashion industry and my love of cars.
I sometimes merge them into one and it comes out a funny word. Often with dyslexia, you know,
I say to my wife, how do you spell where? And bless her, you know, she was a librarian when
I met her. And now she's become much more tolerant and doesn't laugh. You can't see words. If you
try to spell things or you're trying to write things, you just can't see them. You have no idea how
often words are said or pronounced. So yes, I do sometimes struggle. Trying to think of,
you know, it was, it was always a challenge. Pinaforena was always one of school. Pina,
because actually you never really heard anyone say it correctly. So for years and years and years,
you obviously thought that your pronunciation was correct because no one was very interested in this
sort of very, very long Italian sexy word. It's often the foreign words, isn't it?
You know, and actually, I think some brands take the piss a little bit really. I mean,
they make it just too pure a sangue. I mean, come on, did you really need to call it that?
Pure a sandwich.
I'm sure to an Italian, you know, this 12-cylindry thing, I've never attempted
to call that the correct name. I think it's a slight hindrance when you overcomplicate a car's
name, because aren't you, you're cutting off the dyslexics.
Yeah, but it's fascinating. I think to a much like the spectrum chat we all had,
sometimes off air. I think to some degree, we're all slightly dyslexic and that can happen
when you're tired, you know, as you become fatigued. I think some of this does creep in,
you could be 100% functioning and be the most lucid, literate person ever. But you'll have
moments where you'll misread something. You will, you just will. And car names are a bit of a banana
skin. Like when Lamborghini launched the Murcielago, I remember thinking, unless someone tells me how
to say that, I don't know how to say it. I don't have a working, you know, sort of lexicon of bull's
names. I just don't, I don't have that in my head. So someone's going to have to tell me how you say
that. And of course, then you'd say, you'd get it slightly wrong. They'd say Murcielago. And you
had to sort of do that, that Spanish lispy thing. But we don't speak like that in Bristol. We don't.
A Kuntash, Kuntash was always one, wasn't it? That, you know, for at least three decades,
it was Countash. Exactly. And I think, actually, you look at it, it's Countash.
Actually, I think if you have to ask how a car name is pronounced, it fails the basic test of
being a car name. Yes. For me. Yes. So Chris Cooper, sorry, carry on.
Is this the Nestle, Nestle's thing? Do you remember the Milky Bar kid when we were growing up?
Yeah. And the song was Nestle's Milky Bar. And then at some point, because we just,
we didn't know what Nestle's was, because it was, we thought just assumed it was like
Cadbury's or round trees or whatever. And at some point, somebody from Switzerland,
where Nestle is her quarter and originated, must have thought, when are we going to tell them
they're saying it wrong? It's Nestle. So presumably the British part of Nestle,
how many years did the technical get around that, must have thought, okay, we're going to change it,
we're not going to change anything else. We're going to have the same advert,
the latest version of that young kid off the production line with the little white hat,
the Milky Bars are on me. And they just crowbarred the word Nestle into a rhythm which wasn't
designed for it. Porsche or Porsche? That's Porsche. But equally, but if you say Porsche,
so what? Does it matter? Yeah, I did for years. Yeah,
Porsche. Have you lived in Essex? You've got to say Porsche. I mean, it doesn't sound like a
Porsche. The one that I've noticed most recently that has made me think, oh, for goodness sake,
why is it literally in the last six months that Skoda, which we all got used to,
we could, we could work that out, you could look at it. It's not Skoda anymore, it's Skoda.
When did that happen? I can't cope. There's, there's a lot of it out there.
There's a lot of it out there, though. And I suppose, unless, unless you're told your sort of
given direction from the daily car companies appear, you're going to refer back to the inner
voice in your head refers back to the young kid reading the car magazine. That was the difficulty
for me was that no one told you how to say these things. And until you went to an office where
people dealt with them professionally, I realized when I went to AutoCast for the first time,
that I was saying half these things wrong. I really was. But then how, how do you say
facile vega if you've never heard someone say it? It could be anything. a
faece or vega. It could be a, I have no idea. And I think there's a whole load of this out there.
And as it becomes more and more difficult to give a car a unique name, they've, you know,
there were accidents on cars. I remember someone was saying, well, you've not acknowledged the
accident. And I say, you, you've not acknowledged secondary rider prick. So I, but I don't,
I just don't really, yeah, none of us are really useful because you can't get, you can't get a
number wrong. Can you? That's right. That's true. Yeah. I still think Benz, you answer this one.
Sorry, Chris. I was just thinking maybe there is some kind of minor rosette we need to give out
to someone who really irritatedly pronounces all of these right, because there is just something
a bit wank about getting that exactly right for all the cars. He's been in Farina. He's a muschielago.
Well, you just want to slap someone who gets all right. When I was a kid, in that sort of isolated
way, I came across a Porsche via top trumps. And I remember I was seven and the poor parts really
easy to pronounce, isn't it? P O R, poor, poor, easy. But S C H E for a seven year old. What
is it? We encode human beings encode in these things called, called phonemes. So basically
monosyllabic little lump. So you look at S C H E. And so until I was 12, it was a porciche.
That's what I call them. I call them porciches. And I think my little homunculus whenever it's
especially a seventies Porsche. I go, that's a porciche. Of course it is.
It was an episode of Crown Court where they had a witness and he said he was driving a Lamborghini.
I mean, how do you know it's not a Lamborghini? How? No, it's not a Lamborghini. Exactly.
You're not. Okay. Pagani, H U A Y R A. Come on. I remember being told this one because I went to
get an early test car from the factory and I need coaching and it's a Huayra. Exactly. It's a Huayra.
It's like W I R E R, but with an H at the front. Huayra. But I would have looked at that and said
Huayra. He said Pagani Huayra. Why wouldn't you say that? I think when you're presenting the video,
revert to the one after the Zonda really, don't you? You sort of try and avoid saying that. You do.
Yeah. Very, very tricky. Very tricky. I think there should definitely be,
definitely a prize for someone who gets them all exactly right. There is satire to be found
in these areas as well. And let's not forget that one of the greatest sitcoms of all time was based
around a woman whose surname was Bucket who called herself Bouquet. You know, it's such a simple gag.
And I think car makers are guilty of this self-aggrandizement sometimes where they think, you know,
I had no idea how you said Van den Pla. I used to see this badge on the back of cars endlessly as
a child. And all I could work out was it made the car look worse. And I didn't know how to say it. Was
it Plass or Pla? Or I didn't understand it. It was Plass on the growing up. You were brought up.
Like M&S. Why did M&S have Sam Michelle written in their bloody clothes? I like,
did I go to M&S or did I go to Sam Michelle? I've got no idea. Remember that?
St Michael. You'd write St Michael in the clothes, but it was called Sam Michelle.
It's all a bit Michael McIntyre really. But I think, yeah, it's great. Yeah.
Okay, let's move on to F1. Who watched it? Put your hands up.
That's interesting. So only myself and Manish have raised our hands and I didn't watch all of it. I
watched until about, I'm left with 15 laps to go probably, because I had to go and have some food.
I did watch a race and I have to say I quite enjoyed it. I know that there's an artificial
element in the overtaking. And so when you see an overtaking maneuver,
you kind of wait for the complimentary maneuver. But if it doesn't happen, I guess someone makes
it stick. Miami is less energy hungry than other circuits. So I think you were seeing drivers
attack the corners a little bit more here. But at a personal level, I'm eating a bit of humble pie
about Antonelli. I remember two years ago on the pod saying that Toto was hiring a driver
based on data. And that was very dangerous. But my little caveat to that is that the data,
maybe this is increasingly a data driven sport. Maybe it is a sport where, you know,
the data drives it, you find a driver that can drive the data, not necessarily a car. But,
you know, McLaren and Red Bull have made big steps, really big steps. And I think before the
race, I think all the wise money was on the step and winning, actually. He wasn't that far behind
Antonelli and qualifying. I think they've really made some big improvements to the car. Max looked
pretty jolly. It was very out of character for him to spin like that. He was, you know, a little
bit aggressive. Again, I didn't think it was particularly classy. His move on Lewis, whereby
basically they both went off. But that's, you know, you gave the place back. Ferrari,
and they had upgrades here as well. And it was, I think, a bit of a weekend to forget for them.
You saw some real frustration at the end from Charles. And normally he's as cool as a cucumber.
And I wonder what it is to be in a team like that where, you know, for eight years, they've
told you you'll have a championship winning car and for eight years you haven't. And then kind of,
in what might be, I mean, this might be his last year. So in his penultimate year, last year,
they hire a driver who is, you know, Lewis is a great driver. He's not at his peak.
And Charles has put him away and paying basically double the money. That must be even more
annoying. And you can say, oh, well, they pay him double the money for lots of other things. But,
you know, in the end, this is a sport. And it's a very difficult, it must be very, very difficult,
the Charles. And for me, I'm starting to slightly, slightly see that come out. Ferrari wasn't great
on its tires. Normally, you'd have thought with this upgrade, it would be ominously Mercedes are
bringing new bits for Canada. And if they've managed to hold on to this race, and let's not
forget, they've won all four races. They pushed a little bit harder here. If they bring new bits
and they work in the next race, it could be back to status quo. Apparently Aston's vibrations have
stopped so they can focus on other things. And just, you know, sneaking into the background,
Williams are back, aren't they? Williams actually had a really, really good race. And perhaps this
is the car that they were hoping to start the season with. But certainly they've got a good
platform. So listen, I mean, I enjoyed it. Yeah, that's really all I can say. I enjoyed it and
tried not to think too hard in the couple of hours that there were to watch your race then.
Chris Cooper.
And I said this to manage, actually, I think when we were on one of our little trips together
recently, during the five week unexpected break with the cancellation of the Bahrain and Saudi
races, I didn't feel like I was missing it. And I didn't feel like I was missing it or anticipating
it like you do at the start of the season. And it sort of, it sort of didn't really, the idea of it
coming back hasn't grabbed me. And there's now is another three week gap. So they clearly didn't
design the season. Three weeks to Canada. No, it's three weeks to Canada. Three weeks from last
Sunday for the next race. So it's kind of all, stop, start. So the moment is kind of, in part
because like Neil, I follow football. And the team that I follow since I was seven years old
last Sunday is sort of on the brink of, and I found myself, I can't watch football, get too
nervous, particularly when you get to this end of a season, you think, oh, I don't know what to,
we might lose. But I didn't notice this weekend, I was sort of, I was less interested in, okay,
the race, it's just something, something's changed about it. We've talked about it before.
And I think the, it sounds exciting that the FIA has announced that Mohammed
Binsulian, the Fi president's announced that the eight less of a hybrid
assistance will come back. And almost makes it worse thinking, crack, we've got three years,
I've got to, I've got to drive all the way that way before I start driving that way back to where
I want to go. The very strange situation announcing, announcing
what the potential reg change might be when you're just months into a new regime is a very
strange thing, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. I've watched the, the most part of the race.
I'm slightly struggling with my reaction to it really, I feel guilty. I think I should like
it more than I do. Because at a basic level, there's a lot more overtaking going on. And I,
should want overtaking to be the ultimate representation of whether the sport's working
or not. But it makes me, it's made me realise it's about much more than just overtaking because
there are overtakes and there are overtakes. And I think if you, if you just watch motor racing
and you see one car overtake another and then immediately overtake back again,
I think it devalues the currency of the overtake, if I'm honest with you.
And that's, that's the bit that I struggle with. Because there was, there's lots of overtaking
going on, but it just sort of becomes the noise of the race. It doesn't feel, and this is really
unfair, because some of those are very well thought out. They're chess players, they've worked it out
eight corners before. And I still think that's going on. But if all that clever chess play can
be undone by your, some acronym in your car, giving you a bit more oomph and then you sneak
back past again, I'm not sure what it says about the sport. So I suppose I struggle with it. Normally,
I'd have turned up late to a meal to watch the end of the race, but I didn't. I turned up on time.
And I just, and I didn't really care too much about the outcome of the race. I thought Max was,
I think an angry Max at the beginning of a race is pretty sensational. And I think there's no
doubting now that Max has the status of, of Senna back in the day. Senna, if you go back and watch
old footage, Senna could be outrageous if he ended up in the midfield. He'd just throw it down the
inside in the knowledge that a red and white car with the yellow helmet, no one was going to mess
with it. Max has got that status now. He was just topping it up the inside. And in the knowledge,
they'd have to get out of the way. So it was great to watch, but yeah, pretty full on. And I,
I have to say, Antonelli, if someone's repeatedly winning like that, they're doing something really
special because that, you know, you've got to beat your teammate to start with. And he's making
George look a bit average at the moment. So I don't know how George responds to that, but it's
certainly, it's unexpected. I don't think any of us thought this would happen. And maybe we should
be celebrating the fact that this new formula is throwing up all sorts of results we didn't expect.
But there's some, I'm not gripped like, like Chris says, I'm not.
My problem is, and I don't know the detail, really, it's synthetic. It's like, if I was watching
tennis, but you had a button that could make your tennis racket twice as big. It doesn't,
doesn't feel like it's real. That's my problem with it. And maybe that's not true.
But, but motorsport to some extent has always been
complicated as a pure sport. You had a machine that had a huge impact on the outcome. So it's
always been like that. But there's something about, I use that phrase, the currency of the
overtake. Once you diminish the importance of that particular maneuver, I think you're in a bit
of trouble because then it's just cars sort of swapping positions. That's it. It's swapping
positions rather than overtaking. And I think that's a bit of a problem.
I mean, there's always a place, and this is what we're all talking about, isn't it,
for the purest form of motor racing, where it's just the car and the driver and all the cars are
the same. And I don't know, just off the top of my head, randomly, you'd say, catering racing,
catering racing was like that. And maybe I should talk about my catering championship one day
on this podcast. Maybe not. You should. We've got the pause button there, Vinnie.
So this is turning into marathon, guys. Can we move on to the two-car garage, please?
Now, have I got this one right? I'm looking at 30 years ago when you had a Ford RS Turbo.
Yes. Yes. Yeah. Okay, great. Here we go. You and your partner met almost 30 years ago when you
had a Ford Escort RS Turbo, and she had a Vauxhall Calibre. Doesn't specify which one. Could have
been a Turbo. Your only child is through uni, and it's time to relive your younger years and buy
a car each £60,000 shared budget. And the only restriction is that they have to have only two
doors that would fit in an old-school car meet in Southend on C. There we go. Let's go to Manish
first. Oh, I actually thought this was fantastic. I really did. It's just like the sweet spot. I
know I wasn't married 30 years ago, but the little clues in this, apart from the kind of them,
I actually like the Calibre. Can I first of all just admit that I like the Calibre? I know
it's a little bit marmite. We all love the Escort RS Turbo, but the Calibre, I thought the styling
was kind of cool. And Southend on C implies to me that the two cars you've got to pick
should be kind of 80s, 90s British icons, two-door British icons. That's what it means to me. If
you go to Southend on C, and it also has a bit of a reputation, hasn't it? Southend on C for
people driving a bit nautily, doing donuts, getting there very, very quickly, but
increasingly just for the kind of museum quality of the car. So the first one, the expensive one
that I found was a 1980 Ford Capri Mark III, the three-litre manual. Look at that in silver.
It's got 45,000 miles, and I think you look bloody cool in that car. I think that's why it's
expensive. It's just got no miles. And the second one, and I think you'd look very cool in this.
Slightly leggy, slightly leggy, 131,000 miles, but a 1986 right-hand drive Lotus Esprit S3.
Look at that. That is cool. You bastard. Exactly. Sorry. Two two-door cars,
they're just Capri and Esprit. You're going to look great at that show. Your wife picks one of
those. You pick the other one. You're living the 80s dream, living the 83. You are. You're
certainly wrong footed me there, man. She's gone for us. I didn't think you could have a super car.
I've just been looking at the obvious ones. It's funny how we blind-tied ourselves.
No, Clifford. Yeah, very good choice, obviously, one of those.
Okay, we've got two. Both cars have two doors. So I'm like, hmm, this is a bit weird.
How are you going to differentiate between those two cars that they both have a use?
Because, of course, it could just be husband and wife cars, but you don't go for a drive with your
wife and she just follows you and you go together, don't you? Unless you hate your wife.
But if you don't hate your wife, you want to go with her. Therefore,
both cars have got to have a slightly different job, is where I came to this a little bit. So
I'm buying a Corrado. Oh, I love those. Right. So good looking.
But it's so good looking. And I wish, you know, I wish they had a current one.
The G60 versus VR6 is always quite a good debate. I couldn't I couldn't get the VR6.
So I went G60 in my company car after Renault. I was always a bit jealous of VR6,
but there was something sexy about supercharger. So it was sort of, to me, it was in line.
I've gone left hand drive is my is my slightly left field move here. Because if you're going to go
for, you know, you're going to drive down to classic Le Mans, you're going to go to Paris
for the weekend, you're going to go to Barrett's or that other funny place in Spain, where they have
all the funny food up the North. You've got you've a left hand drive one.
Sort it. In white. In whites. And of course, white is the new green, as we know.
You've never heard San Sebastian described by that.
Yeah, I can't remember. I pronounce it wrong. Anyway, San whatever. So look at that. White
white bloody Corrado. Then I've got money left because that's that's in auction. It's going
to go 12 grand, 13 grand. I've got a load of money left. I am going like managed supercar.
And I am going Lotus Esprit. Nice. I'm going early. And the reason why I was thinking it's
got to be Essex. Essex is pure Britain. You don't want to show up there in something a bit naff
that no one can pronounce. And it's all a bit sort of foreign. You want British. I wanted a Lotus
Esprit Essex. Yeah. Basically, there's I can only get one that was a replica of a real one. And
that I thought that's a bit too far even for me a replica Esprit. So this is this is some sort of
s one stroke s two. There was a sort of what there was a one in the middles and s one and a half.
And yeah, converted from an s one to an s. Oh, there you go. So it's two. Oh, no, no, no,
it's too late. It's a 2.2. It's all very good. And by the way, the only check that you need to do on
a car as I've experienced in the last couple of weeks is check all the buttons work and the Corrado
because nothing goes wrong, particularly when you deal with fabulously trustworthy dealers.
All the all the buttons work on the Corrado. So you're absolutely fine there. You're not going
to get into any problems. That's a t shirt, by the way, do all the buttons work question mark.
Chris Cooper. So it's south end, isn't it? It's always sunny in south end. South end is in Essex,
the sister shire on the eastern side of London. I had my first job in south end a million years ago.
So I think you've got to look back 30 odd years. I haven't gone British because I think it's just
it's an old school car me anything. So the first car I get, and it's from our dear friend Andy Noble,
who now runs seven in classics has run for a while. One of those. It's good. Good. On the
south end, I think that's just how much 29 950. It's done. Not many miles, 30 or 1000 miles.
So I thought I was a winner 25 for cash says from Andy, sort of the earth, he'll sort us out. And
then the other one has a great story about the running sport spider
interrupt very quickly. Apparently on the launch, it was launched with no windscreen. You remember
the car with no windscreen. Yes. And apparently all the journeys got in the cars and drove off
onto the a eight. And the police or the john, I'm just pulled them all over and just just said
you're knit. There's no windscreen. That's illegal. Really? Straight away. Because the race car series,
the one make race car series, which was 1989, 1999. That had that sort of like low scuttle with a
little sort of deflector, but no windscreen. They look recall. I actually now really like the ones
with windscreen. The other one, 28,000 pounds. It's the Z three m coupe. Yeah, that's good. Yeah,
but I think you could do this. This question every week on car classic and have just a
dramatically different answer. It's a real sweet. I am, I obviously didn't read the,
the two door bit. So I've been scurrying myself now to replace what I really wanted to buy,
which is a Renault 21 turbo because I can't have it because it's got 22 doors. I read this
slightly differently. I think that I think there's a strong tone of reminiscence going on here. And
that what you buy really needs to hark back. I'm looking at the ages. I'm going first off for a gen
one escort RS turbo. Yeah, because you might be a bit snobby about fast forwards,
but I defy anyone not to tell me that car just looked Bob on. They got it absolutely right.
And I read the first drive in car magazine on the throne about a week ago and it reviewed well.
Quite often these fast forwards didn't review well, but this had a locking diff,
thick end of 130 horsepower. And they just said it was really remarkably exciting with not too
much turbo loud. I didn't expect that review. Oh, it's good. Fair play and have one of those.
And south end on C, you've got to be in a forward or one of you's got to be in a forward. Yeah,
you have missing that. And so I've gone exactly what Neil told me not to do or something he wouldn't
do. I've doubled up on my disciplines because I someone needs to buy this. If this was a 205,
it would be worth 30,000 pounds. But it's a 309 GTI, it's done 24,000 miles,
absolutely Alan Mitter. Look at that. Yes. And it's 15 grand. Jesus Christ. Is that a six speed
box? Is that the six speed? They drive brilliantly. They handle better than a 205 in many ways.
They look a bit awkward. But how much car for the money?
So I've got a load of money left over. I don't presume I'll use it to ensure them
all to go on holiday. Yeah. Let's do some music after this marathon podcast. Let's go first to
Neil Clifford. Songs that you love to sing along to that no one really knows that you do it. But
I've never heard it, but I'll go and listen to it. I've kind of listened to enough dollar
since last week. I've listened to a lot of dollar and it's really good. And I'll hear no criticism
of David and Theresa. I think it's just brilliant. And I'm really happy with my even though some
people on social media thought I was being ludicrous. I think it's wonderful. So I have had
this week is Johnny is 80s. I'm in the Philistines corner. Yeah, it's just Johnny hates jazz shattered
dreams is mega in the car. Yeah, it's good. That's good. It's good. Manish.
If you ever see the film The Piano, the music's by Michael Nyman, and there's a piece called The
Center of Love, which starts as a bit of a piano. It's basically the piano theme from
the piano. And then it becomes this massive orchestral piece. I urge you to listen to that
in a car. You're just pootling around. And then suddenly you're doing light speed on an auto
bomb, opening your sunroof like this. Every probably six months, I have a moment when I
realise that Daft Punk no longer exists. And there'll be no new album when I get angry about it.
Because we because I think we've been sold short and they should be making more music.
And this time I listened to Giorgio by Maroda. That that is just an extraordinary piece.
It's a great tune. So go and listen to that. That was a bit of a marathon. Thank you very
much for listening to episode 86. 86 of the car podcast Chris Harris and friends. We've got a
So on Saturday, the 6th of June, as I'm sure you all know, we are having an unlimited noisy
track day at Thruxton in Hampsteadshire. We would like to award a little prize. It might
be a very long speech from me or a much better shorter speech from one of my colleagues to
find Britain's noisiest car. It's got a big car. You can't just turn up with a jet engine. Although
if you do turn up with a jet engine, you get in for free. Okay, I'll pay you a ticket to get in
for that. We want Britain's noisiest car because the noise meters at Thruxton are very, very,
we want it to be louder than a crow landing on the noise meters at Thruxton, which apparently
has got the record for the noisiest noise at Thruxton. Bring the noisiest car, all the noise
meters will make a little award in the day. So yeah, sign up. If anyone's got unsilenced
two-stroke Saab, bring that along. That's one of the noisiest cars I've ever heard.
Bring one of those along. It's a happy, happy birthday, David Attenborough.
Happy birthday, David. National treasure. So Attenborough. He hasn't had his birthday yet, has he?
He will when the podcast comes out. I'll try to, from Morrell. Okay.
Ah, okay. Managed to be in clever. Thank you very much to my co-host,
Neil Clifford, Chris Cooper, Managed Pandy. We look forward to boring you again next week.
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About this episode
The conversation ranges from the Seagrave Trophy’s speed-record heritage to how modern fans discover niche motorsport via the internet. Chris Harris and guests also trade personal “how I got into cars” stories—magazines, Murray Walker’s storytelling, and even garage life. The F1 discussion turns more technical and philosophical, focusing on data-driven racing, hybrid assistance tweaks, and whether overtakes still feel meaningful. Later, they debate in-car voice control, infotainment safety, and classic-car buying and ownership quirks.
