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It's Tuesday night here on 90.9 North West FM.

It's me, Matty J, in the studio with Mr Chad DeBell.

I'm with Mr David Prince, Mr Edward Bunting,

Mr Scotty Doe Johnson, and long time Returna.

Patrick, how are you guys?

Hello, Matty.

Doing well.

Doing good. Thank you very much.

This is a real boon to Patrick on the show.

I know.

He's easy for us now.

He's trading in his Hilux.

All right.

It's been a bit of a hate to this last few months or so,

but everything's been...

What are you doing?

What?

You're in the same room.

You've got the same car.

What do you mean, nothing?

Same room.

I don't know.

Just recently, I just passed all my exams,

so now I'm a qualified electrician.

Hey.

Thanks.

Thank you.

He's the minus.

Don't put him together.

He's going to cash you now, Patrick.

That'll be $75 an hour.

Yeah.

Yeah, I've got a few jobs, Pat.

I need you to look at, actually.

Oh, here we go.

Here we go.

I can't.

She's on a weekend.

I can't cash ease.

He's going to love all your Patrick.

Don't do it.

Hey, Chad.

I wouldn't pipe up if I was you.

You've had a bit of my time recently.

It'll be, well, you know, everybody likes to cash you.

Isn't that right, Patrick?

I mean, you can...

I'm married myself.

Yeah.

You know, I'm not going to say no to a cheeky cash drop.

Yeah.

No, it's exciting.

So obviously, you know, no more apprentice just on a proper full-time wage and probably

now start playing some big boy money and start playing some big boy toys.

So in the next new year, upgrades for a new car or have another car.

Cars, plural even.

Cars.

That's exciting.

So that's all we're looking for.

Don't do it, Pat.

Take everything extra and put into the S&P 500 and just sit back.

Don't do cars.

Patrick, now you can afford to buy your $50,000 rolling shell.

Yeah, exactly right.

100%.

Where you don't have no time to work on it.

Exactly.

I don't have any time as it is, but there's a few cars I've been looking at, you know,

just sussing out like, well, my budget, what I want to spend.

So I'm just giving my eyes peeled.

But, you know, it's exciting.

That's for sure.

A friend of mine just bought an S15 or tech.

I think you got it in the twos.

So look here there.

They're popping.

I've seen them have a drop in the twos and whatnot.

But I don't know.

I've got a bit of a confession since the start of this year.

I've really missed my old falcon.

So I've been looking at getting back into another falcon.

Oh, there we go.

That's it.

Whether it's a B series or an FG.

I just missed.

I've got that itch.

You're going to go turbo this time?

Of course.

Yeah.

Okay.

Good man.

Good question.

Yeah.

100%.

Of course they get a turbo.

Very good.

We'll talk about that shortly.

But gentlemen, good to see you all.

Good to see you.

Scotty, Ed, David, and also Jim is joining us,

which we'll admit him in there.

But we'll start with Chad.

Updates with you, my friend.

Updates.

Been a bit quiet.

But I did really get the Mercedes back from the painter

who did the body.

Well, the prep work of it.

And yeah, it's, it's looking awesome.

So it's now it's, you know, protected from the elements,

at least, and I can start piecing it together.

And it's got a bit of a weird cold.

Start cold idle issue.

So I've got to figure out what's going on there.

And it's got a little fuel leak as well,

which I'll also need to sort out something for that.

Yeah.

So I'm just talking with the ideas of different thing I can do

on the, for the outside.

And so maybe instead of paint,

I might just do a, like a livery of some sort.

So I'm just trying to get some ideas,

get some inspiration on that.

I'm speaking to my mate tomorrow about that.

Oh, yeah.

Sweet.

Yeah.

That was important.

Yeah.

What else have I done?

Not really.

Not much really.

I've just, yeah.

Yeah.

No, that's pretty much all my updates I would say.

Nicely done.

Mr. David Prince.

Well, power updates.

So I had a busy week hitting the ground running after

making a 40 and being enjoying all the photos that have been

coming through and the reels and all that sort of stuff.

Got to drive the end one that had been feeling a bit forgotten

in the garage.

So gave that a good go on the weekend,

which was really good.

It's a great car.

Love that car.

Missed out on a K.

There was a K gathering on Sunday morning that I would like

to have gone to and I was at Kamikaze in Springvale

and I was actually picking someone up in Springvale in

Dingley on the weekend before it.

But for some reason I wasn't,

Kamikaze wasn't where I thought it was.

So I didn't get to the start.

I kept on going, but I did see a few,

few little trucks on the way there.

So we toured it and waved, but I didn't get to go there.

There's so many things on every weekend.

There's stuff to do.

It's just hard to keep up.

I know.

It's outrageous.

But last night I was sitting in front of the TV with my laptop

and I thought, after all the excitement of Magna 40,

I wonder if there are any Magna's going through grace.

I haven't looked on the grace for a long, long time.

Be six months at least.

No Magna's.

No, like full of Lancers and Tritons and stuff.

Outlanders, a lot of outlanders and ASXs go through grace.

Not exactly an inspiring vehicle.

No, true.

It's not a spirited car.

And spirited people wouldn't buy them.

I'm just bringing it out there.

So then I checked Mercedes.

I always had checked Mercedes to see.

And there was a nice 300 TE.

I did send that to Ed.

I did have a look at that.

A little bit rough in a couple of places, but not bad.

Not bad.

But it was dull on dull colour scheme.

Silver on grey in between.

Just like the dull on dull.

Dull on dull.

And then I thought, well, I better have a look at the Honda

as well as I was here while I'm here.

So I'll just send you this into the chat.

Yo, now I'm not clear as I have to save my screen,

but I can do this.

There were lots of CRX, not CRXs,

you know, the typical things.

Some of them are college CRVs, maybe, stuff like that.

So, you know, there's CRVs and, you know,

2015 HRVs with half a million Ks on the clock.

And there's a silver Odyssey on there.

Is there nothing wrong with that?

No, no, nothing.

That's true.

We know Hondas.

We know they can do the caps.

There's a silver Honda Odyssey on there.

2400 Odyssey.

I thought, oh, look at that.

We had one of those.

That's a cool car.

And then I went and looked at the other ones.

And there's actually quite a few quad bikes and stuff

when you search Honda now too.

So someone must be trying to get rid of a fleet of those.

The Odyssey.

And I thought, that's really like mine,

because it was a base model silver with the hub caps.

Oh, this one's got roof rails too.

Oh, it's got mud flaps as well.

Oh, it's got Eastern Honda service history.

Oh, no, don't tell me this is your car.

Oh, no way.

This is the car I bought new in 2004.

Get out.

That is, that is seriously crazy.

This is sitting at $609 to go.

You got to put that.

This could be a live purchase from the podcast.

It's, it looks like it's seen some things, David.

It's seen some things.

It's done now 324,000 K's.

I had, I think it had 80.

We traded it in on an FD Civic Sport,

but it's got the plates on it that the dealer put on it

because I did a plate swap.

That car had DWP triple two and I had it,

which are now on my N1.

So when we traded it, we put those on the FD Sport.

And so this ended up with WRI,

which was like from the box of plates

that Eastern Honda had at the time

that they were putting on all their new cars.

Yeah.

Oh, David Prince.

So what are the chances?

Are you?

That's incredible.

It's like the episode of, I don't know,

I was at home improvement where Tim finds his,

his first car and he buys it back

and he's so proud of it.

And his wife's like, why'd you buy this?

It's very like an episode of improvement.

That's the case.

I'm not even registered to buy.

I am.

Well, you're in person, Edward.

I can't, I can't do anything about that.

But you're not going to bid on it is what you're saying.

I don't think I'll bid on it.

It was a great car.

It was, it was like, I can remember the, the day they,

I was at Eastern Honda doing some work,

the day that car arrived on the truck from,

it was in the first truck load of new odyssey.

They got the new shape.

Now all you people are too young,

but the ad was so cool for the 2004 odyssey.

I remember the ad.

Oh, do you?

What was that?

The one where the mother and the father.

Yes.

Very aware of that.

They pull up and it was the sexy odyssey.

You see, so they pull up outside the house

and start to have a little bit of a passion in the front seat

and then get disturbed and look around.

All the kids are in the back.

So, um, yeah, that wasn't actually a thing.

That was a bit of false advertising.

I've got to say that, but, you know,

it's looking odyssey.

I think that's one.

It's probably the best looking odyssey.

It's a good looking car.

Oh, it was like a spaceship.

And I remember the first time I took it out at night.

The dash was just incredible.

Like it was like nothing I'd ever seen before.

It was 10 times better than a Star Wars prelude,

which were about 10 years previous to that.

But yeah, what are the chances?

I mean, that's nuts.

That's incredible.

That theme is going to continue

when we get to my car updates.

Whoa.

Okay.

So, of course, you can't actually see in the service books

of that car.

You can't see the, you know, the first page of it,

but they put all the service stamps.

So I knew it had Eastern history all the way up to 80Ks.

And so I rang Eastern today and I said to the guy

in the service department,

completely random question.

I said, how far back to your records go?

And he said, look, if it's still on the road, you know,

what's the win?

And I told him the win.

And I said, was that sold to Veredwick, Matt Waidley in 2004?

And he just, there was silence on the end of the phone

for a minute.

And he said, no, it was sold to David Prince.

I just laughed.

I thought, wow.

I literally, as I said, haven't looked at Grace for months

and months and months and months.

Bang, there it is.

There it is.

Because it's sort of not often that you come across a car

that you used to own.

It's like, you'd think it would happen more,

but it doesn't really tend to.

It's amazing how they can be in Melbourne

and you don't see them.

That's right.

I mean, if you don't see it, or you see it on the road

or, oh, that was my old car or something,

you don't see them.

Where for even that to happen?

It's sort of, yeah, with 40 photos and, you know,

pictures of the service books and stuff.

Yeah.

So there you go.

That's my car update.

It's not an update just yet, but, you know,

it was an object of some hilarity today.

That's for sure.

That's unbelievable.

Yeah, that's so cool.

There's a grainy photo of the tow bar.

Like, Honda, you've got to put the tongue on it separately.

It's like just a mounting point for the tow bar

and it's got all spider webs and stuff over it.

I've actually still got the plastic cover that goes over.

Oh, nice.

It was a genuine Honda tow bar and it's here.

The cover slides on and it's got a little eight,

little HM on it.

Just log in to Grey's now.

So when Edward buys it, you'll be able to see that.

I'm just logging in now, David.

Just in case.

It would make for a good podcast, wouldn't it?

It'd make a great podcast.

As long as all the people on the podcast

don't all bid on it at the same time.

Jim, you keep your fingers away.

In fact, no, you can bid it.

I won't.

Let's see.

The current high bidder is AP from Springvale,

whoever that is.

What's the, what do you think that's worth

for 320 on the clock?

What is one of those worth?

We'll have more of an idea when the CRV is sold, I suppose.

But I think that's probably what's for his people off,

but it's a K24 and it was the CRV K24,

not the Euro K24.

Yeah.

I think they were like 120 kilowatts instead of 147, I think.

You're a bit long compression, I think.

Yeah.

But to have got to those Ks and not have an engine light on

or anything, it's probably been looked after.

It's a little bit of body needs the hubcaps needed.

Oh, yeah.

We'd have allies on it, I think, before very long.

I always wanted to put the 17 inch Euro alloys on it,

but I never got around to it.

I can see why you chose the interior to its good combination.

Yeah.

Well, it was literally on the truck, as I said, when it arrived,

because all the second gen autosies in the seven-seaters

had beige interior, which looked pretty terrible.

And yeah, I just thought this was only the base model in the silver,

had the gray interior.

So I said to Maxine, who I knew was working there at the time,

I said, just hang on to that one just for a few days for me to do.

I'm currently the highest bidder.

$709.

Good on you, Ed.

Well, we'll see what happens, eh?

What happens?

It's only got 35 minutes to go.

If you get it for like a thousand bucks, let's just say,

three of us put a bid on it, and now you buy it for a thousand.

No kidding.

But if you get that, and then you get a roadworthy,

maybe two and a half grand, you might, three grand,

you might be up to sell it.

I've got to be more than that.

The seven-seater autosies got to be with a roadworthy.

It's got to be at least three and a half or four, doesn't it?

What do you think?

Three and a half, yeah.

It's a lot of car.

I'm not sure it's desirable, though.

It's probably more desirable than the other autosies.

I'd say so.

I'd say that's probably the most desirable change.

The general public.

Yeah.

And being a K-24, it's quite reliable for you.

Yeah, so.

And with, with, you know, better.

Actually, the first set of hubcaps faded while I had it,

and I kicked up such a fuss.

They actually gave me a new set before the warranties.

Has it got any regio?

No, it expired on the 15th of October.

Oh, so you could pay it?

Yeah, yeah.

Hmm.

Yeah, right.

Yeah.

Bunting's in bunting mode, and he's, uh,

I'll probably get out, Bid.

I would suggest on that.

I would suggest.

At least I've thrown my hat in the ring.

I've tried to do the right thing.

Look at you.

The right thing.

I had to do the right thing and buy it.

I can't, I can't talk.

I can't talk.

Odyssey.

I think that I could sign written matter.

You could sign right the thing.

That's a good idea.

Yeah.

How to do this electrical business for the fuck's

up?

With the Tarago and the Odyssey.

We could cart 15 people around.

There's two Taragos in this.

There is, correct.

And Odyssey?

Yeah, nice.

What's your history?

Is your Tarago an 8-seater?

Mine's an 8-seater.

That's a 6.

That's a lot of people.

There's more people than we know.

Well, except for like, Adam, David's favourite.

He knows everybody.

I mean, it'd be fun to play with for a weekend, wouldn't it, David?

Sort of be a bit of fun.

Lovely to play.

You know, to have it back and have a little reminisce and a play.

I'm aching to miss all those seats, I tell you.

Well, you might get your chance.

This is so silly if it happens.

How long is that? 30 minutes?

33 minutes and eight seconds.

We'll do other people's updates.

I'll set a timer for 25 minutes.

We'll get a Patrick.

Patrick, good to have you back on the show.

And we also welcomed you, Jim Bali, as you were signing in.

But we'll, we'll, you are on there.

Patrick, updates with you, my friend.

Updates, not a lot, man.

I wish I could say those more.

How's the last?

Highlights still going strong.

Touch wood.

Actually, I did just sell the hard lit and put a canopy on it.

I found this ripper deal of fiber, sorry, flexi glass, sport canopy.

100 bucks.

And I forked a glass intact, everything down.

Guy was down in a, what's that in?

Not sunshine in Fitzroy.

Just selling it and asking for any reasonings.

I just want to get rid of it.

Little blemish here and there, but otherwise nothing's cracked.

Something really good condition.

So, you know, definitely change the look of the car.

And now apparently everyone records I've got a four inch lift on my car.

Apparently it makes it look a lot bigger than it really is.

But it's good.

So I'm going to, I'm just in the process now with one of my mates who's a carpenter.

Just going to draw out some plans for some draw system.

I want to put in the back of it, put a 12 volt system at what?

Just for when I do.

So I do go away camping and stuff like that.

So it would be handy to have and as well, just keeping my tools and batteries on charge.

I did.

Oh, I put rear flares on as well.

A couple of years ago, I got rid of the old garden edging.

The bonning special put some, you know, kind of.

It's that fully qualified money.

You got some bonning special to proper flares.

You've changed.

Yeah, you're right.

I'm still the same.

That's really it, man.

It's, yeah, it's, it's going good.

I've had a few people offer me a bit of a bit of corn for it,

but I honestly need to sell it.

It's been really reliable.

It's easy to drive.

Like I always say, like if there's one regret with that car,

I would do wish it wasn't automatic just for everyday driving.

Not saying that it's a hard manual.

It's very easy, but still in when you're in bumper to bumper traffic at five o'clock,

you know, the last thing you want to do is just in and out clutching clutch out.

So, but it's still going strong.

Um, yeah, besides that, I don't really have any plans.

I don't want to spend more money.

As I said to you guys at the start, I do want to buy another car.

Um, so I want to put this has been a stupid amount of money onto that,

been onto my car.

So yeah, just hopefully just making it last and then, you know,

we'll see what happens.

If it's, if it's time to go, then potentially maybe look at a,

maybe next-gen rate, a Ranger, D-Max, but even then, like you only use market.

That's still ridiculously expensive for what they're going for.

Yeah, they are.

They're not in date difference.

Don't get me wrong.

Like just the quality of the Ute itself compared to my car, which is an 06,

but it's, it's a lot, it's a lot of money.

It's a lot of money.

And I don't know if I can honestly, for you to justify that.

If I'm going to spend that much, do I buy a van instead?

That can be a future Patrick's problem.

I'm not too worried about it, but yeah.

So far, yeah.

I've got the canopy on it.

Got the free of flares and yeah, just, just been driving doing what it does best

and just, just drives and cut people off.

Patrick, I'll get the solution for you.

There's an automatic Odyssey online.

It's a van at the moment, $709.

It's tempting.

Put your tools.

What a beautiful work.

It's tempting.

It's almost bought a V6 Camry a couple last month, actually.

Very clean stock standard.

Oh, three.

Oh, four model.

I forgot what, what bad you was.

It was a, not base model, but just the one just above it.

Really nice cast, really smooth.

The couple just did everything to it.

New headlights, wheels, new bushes, new motor mounts,

transmission mounts, fitting idols in purse.

My brother ends up buying it.

So it sucks to suck, but I was bought, there was a really nice car.

And yeah, I've just, I've been seeing a lot of the niche stuff on the road

that I wouldn't mind.

Do I buy this?

But I have to keep telling myself, no, no, don't be stupid.

You want to buy this?

Don't you all regret it?

But I don't know, like, I want something fast.

You know, I want something, you know, fun, but at the same time, I feel like I've,

if you guys want to laugh, I'm saying with age, like I'm acting like I'm 40.

I'm really, I find the beauty in the most, in the, in the simple things with cars,

you know, it doesn't, I'm just realized, like, even something that's clean, automatic

and naturally aspirated, I feel can bring me just as much joy as, you know,

something manual turbo with, you know, a thousand horsepower.

So I've learned to appreciate, like, you know, just what people will call regular traffic.

At the top of cars.

So are you growing up, Patrick?

You're growing up.

Growing up, you can say, yeah.

But I think it's hilarious that you reference 40 as someone who's old.

40 years.

I'm sorry.

40 years.

You meant to know what you're doing at 40?

Like, should we have our lives sorted by 40?

No, no, trust me.

I don't even know what I'm doing half the time.

So I talk about tax or like politics or something.

Oh, your prenuation.

Please.

Oh, yes.

I had that talk.

So it'll get you.

Are you going to lose it?

Yeah.

So that's what's up with you, Patrick.

Very good.

Edward, we'll get to yours because you've got a lot in a minute.

But Scotty Doe.

Me.

Nothing overly exciting.

I just might have saw on Insta, I gave the 31 a bit of a clean.

I know it did rain the very next day, but it's got a car covers and everything.

So it's all nice.

It's fine.

Is that at your place?

No, I'm kind of enjoying having the blade in the garage.

So it's nice having it under cover where I can just wash it and that ox.

Yeah.

Inside at the moment.

I'll probably will eventually.

I want to widen our driveway.

A bit, but I'm waiting for next door to finally start building.

They've got it like they're ready to build.

So once they're done, the stupid fencing will come down.

And I can kind of get the cement cementers to come out and concrete as to widen that.

And then I can kind of have the skyline parked in there and then wind just behind it.

And then Ash can just come straight in and out.

Yeah.

So I'm not moving cars all the time because that's the thing that kept pissing me off.

Yeah.

She kept going out somewhere or I'd come home earlier than her.

So I have to park on the road and then she would she would come home and then I go back

out and drive in behind and everything.

It's just a pain in the butt.

Yeah.

I don't want to have to do that.

Yeah.

So I took it for a bit of a bit of a drive around, you know, get a few looks here and

there.

People having a look and just giving the nod.

Yeah.

The nod.

Yeah.

I like getting the nod and it's about it.

So I guess since Ash isn't here, I've been kind of looking at cars and things.

She said, she said I'm not allowed to not until after the wedding, but you know, it's my

money.

Maybe a $700 Odyssey.

Yeah.

So.

Yeah.

So I just, you know, just if anything popped up that looks pretty darn good, I might be

tempted.

I've got money stored around in different, different things.

Swiss Bank accounts and.

Yeah.

Gold bull.

You know, it would be good if Bitcoin all of a sudden shot up and I'd be like, well, here

we go.

So I got a bit of money there and vested it here and there, some in the bank if need be.

Yeah.

I mean, I'm even, if something good pops up, I'll even sell the 31 as well.

Big talk.

You just dropped a bomb show right here.

Top tip.

Yeah.

I mean, everything's for sale really.

Is it?

Yep.

Right price.

Five grand cash right now.

You want a 31 Pat?

I know what I got.

I'll buy the Hilux.

This could be a little buy and swap and sell.

I'm buying David's Odyssey.

Pat's Hilux.

Pat's buying the R31.

Who else is buying something from someone?

The only thing I think you'd have to get for a road worthy now for the 31 is just to get

the reverse light hooked up.

Yeah.

Other than that, everything else will pass.

Yeah.

Let's go check front suspension on the driver's side.

Very, very squeaky.

Is that a ball joint?

I don't know.

Everything's been replaced.

Everything's brand new on the damn thing.

Normally when you go over a speed hump, it's more when they're cold than when they're hot.

If it's a ball joint, it'll go in or in when it's cold, but then as it warms up, they'll

get better.

That's classic ball joint.

Yeah.

Well, mine, I've been driving it for quite a bit, so it was already nice and warm, and

then the sound started to come in.

Could need a bit more grease.

I'll double check underneath, but as I said, everything's been replaced.

The whole suspension bushes and everything all at the front is all brand new.

Majority at the rear is all brand new.

So that's just interesting.

I'm sure it's nothing too major.

That's squeak.

I'll just spray a bit of WD-40 on it.

You'll be right.

Yeah, it should be right.

Yep.

That's how you do it.

That's it.

And yeah, that's me.

That's what I'm thinking.

Very nice.

Jimbolly.

All right.

I've got a few.

So singers are on the buy and sell kind of thing.

So I've put a bid on something too.

Oh.

And actually at Grey's, I haven't bid on what I'm about to say, but at Grey's, I've got

a bid on P6 for the moment too, which is a bit unusual.

Oh.

Apologies if I sound a bit funny.

I've got a bit of a head cold.

So I've got a job interview on Thursday.

Very nice.

And in terms of car updates, Pacific went in for fuel injector cleaning on Friday.

When I picked it up, apparently it was basically fine.

So he didn't even charge anything for it.

He did clean it though.

It is a bit smoother.

Then on month.

So yesterday I was meant to have the drive shafts replaced.

And when I dropped it off the person I spoke to there, asked all about Magna 40,

because they also have got one.

They also told me they've spent $35,000 on theirs.

So that's keen.

But anyway, so that was quite interesting.

But what was also a little bit frustrating was that when I about halfway through the

day, because for me, if I, because basically I drive from home to the mechanic and then

to work and then reverse, which is about 350ks all up.

And so about halfway during the day, I got calls saying, oh, your driveshafts are fine.

They don't need replacing.

And I said, oh, I'm sure you recommended it before.

And I said, no, no, no, it's fine.

They really don't need replacing.

So then I thought, well, okay, while the cars, they just give it a minor service anyway,

but I was puzzled.

And so just before I logged into Zoom, I went through my service receipts in this

rather large folder I've got here.

And that mechanic has been saying since April of last year, the drive,

basically the same comment every service, driveshafts are wearing customer to monitor.

Okay.

But it didn't have a price on it.

And then I thought I had asked for it at some point.

So recently I culled a lot of personal emails and set a folder aside from my car,

went through that.

And much of this year, I did ask for a quote and got one.

There you go.

So I'm a little bit puzzled as to why they now think it's from the same place,

not from somewhere else.

Yeah.

So they're puzzled as to why they think it's replacing when they said it did.

And again, you're quite to have it done.

But anyway, so I'll have to, yeah, I guess we're kind of,

we're on that.

So yes, that's my.

For a while, and I'm talking a long while, when you go to accelerate from a standstill,

especially there's quite a bit of vibration.

It's quite consistent though.

There's a bit of harshness.

Sometimes now, like in the last month, there's a bit of an odd noise when I'm turning as well,

but that has only just appeared.

But yeah, it's annoying anyway.

It could be mounts, could be engine mounts, could be, could be,

it could even be the sway bars, you know, like the sway bar links, you know,

under load, like when they take off.

I've seen that happen before.

That's an interesting one.

Yeah, that's weird.

Yeah.

I think the other thing too, it's a bit frustrating is that there are some, you know,

being older, there are some major components that need doing, but, you know,

it's not very clever to have a low paying job, but then drive a lot.

So, you know, but anyway, we'll get there.

But yeah, so those are my car updates.

We should hit 500 in two weeks.

Very cool.

I like what you posted in the chat, Jim.

Yeah, I'll be honest.

I was looking at Mannheim to see if there were any magnets.

They weren't, but then I saw that and I thought, well, it's clean.

I don't think I've been very, very low, but, you know, it looks pretty good.

That Orion is seriously clean with it.

It looks like a really good history.

It does.

That's Mannheim though, not Graze.

No, exactly.

And when does that finish that car?

Is that next month?

That looks tomorrow.

Not tomorrow.

Is it in bid now?

I don't think so.

Annoyingly, I can't see what the current bid is on it.

At least I'm not sure how to.

Normally what happens is they go to auction on a Wednesday.

Oh no, tomorrow is Wednesday, isn't it?

Yeah, tomorrow.

Okay.

Yeah, that's right.

Good auction Wednesday.

Sorry.

I was thinking it was that time today.

I'm going to put a maximum bid now and then it'll.

You can.

I've done that now.

I can't see if somebody else has outbid me, which I'm sure they have because you'd be

silly not to.

So Jim, why do you want the Orion?

What, what purpose would that serve you?

Two words.

Cruise control.

Oh, I mean, they're amazing.

Jim frozen.

Or is he catching a fly?

Jim come back.

Oh goodness.

He's got to look.

I think I have a bit of.

I shouldn't be.

I can still hear you.

We just, we just lost.

Yeah, we just.

I think I chose the Orion because I seem to have a bit of a fondness for

likely assembled cars.

And it says to replace the Honda is a dated.

Oh no.

No, no, no, no, no.

What's this?

Does it need to have a reason?

I just wanted to have some idea of what you wanted to do with it or

something.

Part of it probably my hope was because it looked fairly clean was

that hopefully it didn't need a lot doing.

Could be turned around quickly ish.

And then could, you know, potentially give me a bit more money to

get rid of my other things because since Magna 40, I think it's helped

me to help to motivate me to cull my collection quite significantly

and, you know, have money for the things I actually want to have

money for basically.

So you're going to get rid of some of the other ones you've got.

Hmm.

Okay.

Well, that's interesting.

I didn't realize the ATX has had electric seats.

Only the driver.

I'll decide.

Okay.

Yeah, it's clean.

Yeah, I really like those Oriens.

I think we talked about them a while back when I bought that one off my

auntie that was an ATX, but so smooth, so quiet, soaked up so beautifully.

I talked about it at the time I had it.

So I have a real respect for them.

And those motors are very long lived.

They don't like skipping oil changes.

They can get sludged up.

But if it's been well serviced that they are a very, very long lived

thing.

The only downside fuel economy.

They're a bit.

That's really the only downside.

Yes.

But I think it's, I think as someone told me once, I sort of I on the

highway, especially I tend to drive like an elderly lady on

Valium.

So it wouldn't be too bad for me.

No, highway is the best place for those cars.

And that's, it's really where they're, they're pretty comfy.

And you know what, it's not only an ATX.

It's not actually an ATX.

Yeah, it's a touring.

Which at least down, down my end is always the one that's

owned by the person who goes to the bowls club and keeps it polished

every day and does hardly any driving.

Well, I think that's the case.

But the alloys in the spoiler, I think they're touring.

Aren't they?

Yes.

Well, I won't bid on that one, Jim.

No.

Can you tell if it's a, if it's a kids undercover car?

You can.

It usually tells you, but it doesn't say on that one.

Yeah.

It's not.

No.

Okay.

So it'll either, it'll probably have something majorly wrong with it.

Probably.

Knowing my luck, it absolutely would.

Yeah.

Jim, you can join me in the fun of picking up a manhime and seeing

what goes wrong on the Westgate freeway.

True that.

Yes.

We can enjoy that together.

It's a fun game that I like to play.

It's dangerous.

To make it home.

Yes.

They don't have any rush.

We all need to play at home.

It's fun.

Well, your first drive was to body ablet.

Yeah, that's great.

So that's your update, Jim.

Yes.

Thank you.

Lovely.

Edward Bunting.

Strip yourself in, ladies and gentlemen.

All right.

There's a couple of things.

The first is I'm still the highest bidder on David's Odyssey.

It's $709.

Plus.

Plus fees that come $200.

You've been out a bit.

Have I?

You have to.

Oh, have I?

No, it still says on the current bidder.

Mine says.

Hang on a minute.

Oh, Springvale's back at 809.

We won't be having that.

I'll deal with it.

We're in the middle of car updates.

I was buying a car live on air.

The first thing was, you know, as we all know,

Magna 40, great event.

The Wasp did a very stellar job of there and back and was running,

running really, really well the whole way.

It was, it was behaving itself.

As it always did, you know,

it never really did other than the odd traction light that comes on and off.

So I advertised that when I got home on car sales and Facebook marketplace

and I had a few pings on marketplace,

but one guy, a couple of serious car sales pings,

one guy came on, I think I put it online Thursday.

He came Friday night, really liked it.

Said he wanted to think about it overnight.

Little did we know,

but he was going straight from my house over to our friend Tommy's house

to look at his barata.

So we didn't, we didn't actually know that at the time.

So he messaged me that night or early the next morning,

I think it was, and I rang him and he said,

oh, yeah, I went to actually went over to look at that other barata.

And I'm like, oh, Tommy's fine.

I didn't even know Tommy put his online yet.

Cause I was saying to him, oh, cause he said that I was a little bit,

you know, a little bit rough in the eye.

And I said, yeah, we thought so too,

but my mates has done 100,000 K and his is exactly the same.

We figured that's how they are.

And anyway, he went and test drove that car and he liked both,

but he just said, look, Tommy's is a beautiful car.

It's 100,000 K at champagne.

It's a really clean machine.

But he goes, the wasp has just got a bit of a factor.

And I'm like, yeah, it sucked me in.

So he really just loved the yellow and the spoiler and the spec and all of those things.

So, so we struck a deal on that and it drove away Sunday night into the traffic.

So I was a little bit, I was a little bit sad to see it go.

I said to someone, Tommy, it might have been,

cause Tommy rang me the next day and goes, you stole my buyer.

I said, I was, I think the wasp stole your buyer.

But yeah, sad to see it go.

That was a, it was a very likable car.

But the funny story about the wasp from Thursday, I think it was,

I got a call from my friend Nick and I rang him back and he said,

oh, the reason I rang you was I'm in the car with my school friend, Josh.

We're up in Canberra for a wedding and we're just chatting.

And Josh had said, how's Ed going?

And Nick said, oh, he's good.

He's just been to Magna Fest and blah, blah, and Josh goes, but it doesn't own a Magna.

And Nick goes, no, no, he bought one like in Feb to, you know, take to this festival.

And he said, it's this yellow thing blah, blah, and Josh goes, oh, that's funny.

Friend, family, friends of ours had a yellow Magna when I was a kid in Ballarat.

And Nick goes, I think that car came from Ballarat.

So they bring me back and they go, Ed, what was the name of the lady that had it in Ballarat?

Because there were two ladies that had it in Ballarat.

And I said, oh, it was, you know, Susan and so on.

So the first one, and they just laughed.

I said, that's that car.

So, so Josh goes, that's my parents best friends.

He goes, we took that car and our Odyssey ironically around Tassie said I was on my

L's and Odyssey and their daughter was on her L's driving the Wasp.

And they took it all around Tasmania.

So because they had that car for about eight years that that first lady.

So I just thought, what are the chances?

But so it's another one of those silly coincidences this week.

And there's a third one I'll talk about.

So we're all laughing about that.

I said, oh, well, there you go.

The history is pieced together a bit anyway.

So I told the new owner that and what have you.

He lives in Vic.

So that car is going to live in the Northern suburbs.

And he said, you got visitation rights anytime.

And I was like, well, glad it's gone to a worthy home.

He really liked it.

So that's good.

There you go.

Rando story.

The other Rando story was that I sold the Honda Jazz on the weekend as well.

This is the little blue manual 150 K Jazz that I picked up a while ago.

No, only a couple of weeks ago.

And the guy who bought it is sort of downscaling for a more expensive car just to save costs and own this thing out, right?

And use it for work.

I'm like, yep.

Good trajectory.

Do that.

And when I was writing out the receipt thing for him, I said, oh, what's your surname?

And when he said it, I said, oh, do you know Judy?

Like with the same surname?

And he goes, yeah, that's my grandma.

And I'm like, well, my mom is really good friends with this lady who's grandma.

So we figured that out.

I'm just like, this is a weird coincidental week going on here.

And then David contacts me and says, this is my Odyssey.

And it's like, what's going on in the world?

The world is gone nuts.

I know, right?

Gone nuts.

Now I have bought a couple of cars because of course you can't sell a couple without being tempted by other things.

One of them is another Magna.

I ended up buying a VRX 04 with the slightly uglier headlight update.

So this is a silver VRX sedan, one owner, 236Ks, hole in the muffler, a bit bashed in the body.

But geez, it goes well.

And it's an all wheel drive Magna.

So that it drives really well.

It's an incredibly comfy car that all wheel drives had a smaller alloy.

They were a 16, not a 17.

And so it just really rides well on those slightly fatter tires.

Anyway, I don't know quite what I'll do with that yet.

But I'm just roosting around in that because it's got regio till next August.

And I was like, well, you know, you don't sniff at that.

But a little bit thirsty.

That's the downside of those as like the Orion or the Wasp or any of those.

It's just and that the oil drives worse again because it's heavier.

So I don't know that I'll use it extensively because she likes a drink.

Well, you've got August.

Yeah, I know how much fuel do I want to tip into up to me now in August?

The other one I picked up during the week was a little C2, sorry, C180, the W202.

So this is the nice square shaped little C class that we like rather than the blobby eye shape.

But that's a really clean navy blue on cream leather car owned by an engineer older guy and really nice history.

And just just smooth, beautiful, even though it's the base base C180 and there's no compressors or turbos or anything on it.

You know, once you get into the rhythm of driving a bit like my old Merc diesel, you really just you really just appreciate what those cars do so well,

which is suspension and steering feel and the ride just so good.

And I like driving it.

You cruise along in that.

It's a really nice little thing.

Will you be selling up with a Rengen roadworthy?

I will be.

What are you after?

Look, I think for a really clean 202, it's only done 129 Ks, a really clean 202 in that spec.

I think there's still a seven and a half sort of seven-ish grand car, you know, not to everyone.

But I think if you want one out of the box like that, there are lots of ready ones like lots of ready ones getting around with 300 plus on them.

And those are three grand and three and a half grand, you know, like a good 202 like that.

That's just turnkey, you know, mats on mats, mat two keys, books just clean.

I think it's I think it's seven and a half.

So it's in currently getting a list of what it needs, hopefully not much.

So that's the 202.

That's the Magna and the new one.

What else are we doing?

We've got to advertise the CRV this week, David.

That's going online.

The Merck S-Class finally got its roadworthy actually sent to me.

So I've sent off all the paperwork for the club plates on that.

This is a 380.

That's going in on Friday to have the little tick tick investigated in the top of the motor.

I think that's it for the car world.

We'll see if I, I'll bet a bit on that Odyssey again.

Very good.

It's been successful.

Still said by current winning bid.

I don't know what's going on with Graze.

Okay.

Maybe refresh because it says, you know, it's.

I'm refreshing.

I'm, I'm doing it.

It says, it says night on, on the other.

You're killing me.

Oh, Mojure is now piped up.

You can see that down the bottom, but it doesn't, it doesn't say that anywhere else.

AB more than Vic.

I want to know who that is.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's me.

All right.

I'm back again.

Six minutes to go.

Right.

I'm placing another bid.

There was a sniper bid right at the end.

Yeah, I think that's the way to do it.

At a time of four and a half.

Because I'm currently losing.

Someone must have put a high thing on it.

They do go for a bit of money.

The Odyssey anyway updates with me.

I've driven my MR2.

So I'm driving it this week.

That's been, that's been a bit of fun.

And of all the cars I have, it's, I was telling Chad earlier before the show.

It's probably the one that I always get like a thumbs up in or like a, or the nod, as you

say, as you mentioned, Scotty, the good old nod.

Yeah.

You're driving really well.

It needs a few things here and there.

As all my cars do, just like, you know, bits and pieces and, but it's, it's, you know,

you can turn, drive, go have fun and, you know, and enjoy that.

Yeah.

I think, I think that's, I think that's, that's where I am.

Now tonight, gentlemen, on, on this, this esteemed.

I didn't ski approved podcast.

Um, we, uh, so yeah, I was wanting to talk to you guys about specs.

Now.

You know, David always talks about getting, getting like the sweet spot of a, of a model

in the range.

Do you think that's always the case or, or is it sometimes easier because like on the

secondhand market, you know, for example, like the price comes into, comes into play with

all the models in general.

Do you think it's better to, to buy one if you want, just with all the fruit or whole,

or by a base model, because in about 10 years time or something, usually the price is kind

of fluctuated and be the same anyway.

So, you know, I had this chat with, with my, um, with my dad a while ago actually, because

he was selling his territory and his territory was a gear being top of the range.

Um, and he's like, why are these TX's and TS's worth, you know, worth the same money?

And, um, and I'm like, well, that's just, that's just how it is.

This is what happens.

So is it worth, is it worth it?

Or is it worth just, you know, saying, yeah, no, I'd rather, um, you know, uh, just, just

get the base model because it'd be worth the same as, you know, save my money essentially

and go, go forward with that.

Do you think it's better to buy the spec you want?

Um, or is it just worth just getting, you know, just whatever, whatever, uh, because

they kind of all work out to be the same in the end.

I mean, there are the, there are the exceptions to the rule.

Obviously there are some, some cars that you need to get in this spec and this color and

this, this, this for it to be really worse.

I mean, but like, let's say, for example, a CRV David Prince, which, which, you know,

we've talked about on the show many times, um, you know, is, and you always bought like

kind of the mid spec because you think that's a sweet spot, which is, which, which makes

total sense.

Did you find when coming to sell that car, you know, the high spec ones were virtually

similar price or same price,

but there's certainly not the difference when you come to sell it that there is in, uh,

when they're new, uh, when we bought the, the CRV we had, I really wanted the sunroof,

but that was nearly another 10 grand because you had to buy, it would only came in the,

in the top, top level car.

Um, but the second hand, there, there's certainly not worth anything like that more.

Um, and having said that, the longer you keep them, I mean, if you've got a base model

something and it's immaculate and low mileage and, and in really, really terrific condition,

people are still going to prefer that.

And even an often the base models are the ones that people think are pretty cool because

they're not as, um, especially in an older car, they're rarer because people, most people

sort of seem to want the one with all the, all the bits and pieces, but to get a base

model with the, um, without the bits and pieces, as long as it's immaculate and low case and

people, that car's probably going to be worth more in the end.

So it's a bit of a moot point really.

I mean, it's, it, I always remember too with color.

I remember the Mercedes dealer I did work for used to tell people and, and I think Ed,

you've said the same thing that you'd say go silver or black, you know, cause they're

the best colors for resale.

No, I didn't say that.

Oh no.

Well, I thought with Ben, no with Ben, I'm sure with Ben's, you know, that's what they,

if people can't decide what color they say goes silver.

So it's like the people will say, well, we'll just, oh, okay, we'll get a silver one because

that's best for resale.

And it's not what they actually, you know, they're not fast or it's not the color they

want.

You know, they might have liked a nice barrel, you know, barrel green or a, um, Tanzanite

beige or one of those sort of colors.

But yeah, I think if you fall into the trap of buying, buying the car just for the future

resale value, I don't think, I think if you spend a lot of money, you should have what

you want.

I agree totally.

It's, um, yeah, some people would say to that, oh, I really love the blue or the red, but

no, I'll just get gray for resale.

And it's like, you've spent a lot of money on this thing.

You know, you're at the point in your life where you can afford to buy a new BMW in the

case of where I worked.

And it's like, not everyone, not many people get to do that.

You know, so why wouldn't you get what you like?

You know, just, just, I used to really encourage people to, if you love it, get it.

Like, you know, I know we think we're all so unique.

We're not.

Um, and if chances are, if you like it, there will be some other person out there that likes

it as well.

And also I used to say to them, you know, yes, you can get gray like everyone else.

And in five years time when you go to sell this car, there's 50 gray ones on the market,

but there'll be maybe one or two red ones and yours is one of them.

So someone who wants red, you've got the market captured sort of thing.

So I, yeah, I'm a big, a big fan of, of, of autism color.

I mean, look out there on the streets today.

It's just dull on dull on dull.

Um, because everyone's so scared of color.

They're scared of standing out or offending someone by the color they've chosen.

We do it in our houses.

We do it in our cars.

Um, and yet the irony is that when the car gets older and older and older, the colored

ones are the ones that are, that are the hot ones, like a 911 S in Viper green.

You know, people may have shied away from that in 1975, but, but my God now,

that's the one everyone wants, you know, and you see it on like SLs, you know,

like those early 2000s SLs, they were all silver and black, all of them.

You know, it's like when you get a blue or you get a red on cream or you get, oh,

thank God, you know, it's really nice to have a color.

So I, I think, yeah, it depends what your usage is.

The car depends where, what your relationship is.

Is it, is this a three year car?

Is it a 30 year car?

You know what, you know, that, that does play into it a little bit.

It depends where it's parked.

You know, I hate black cars as a rule, but you know, if you're gonna buy a black,

you want to have that garage.

That's not an outside car.

Sorry, Matthew, not looking at you with your laser currently, but they are impossible.

You know, the, the darker colors like that are just really impossible to live with

if it lives outside.

You've got to be a maintenance freak to keep that immaculate.

Spec wise though, yes, like you said, they all, they all will blend together very quickly.

It comes down, the older the car gets, it more comes down to Ks and condition, not so much spec.

So, you know, a 60,000 K beautifully serviced car in a base model will always probably outstrip

a 150,000 K ratty car with no service history in terms of the sale price.

You know, people, people get less fussy as the car gets older because will you, you have

to be less fussy.

You're playing in the used market.

You have to take what's there.

You can't pick and choose so much.

But there are sweet spots of spec.

Like, you know, on my dad's page, that thing is a GLS.

It was the mid spec to go the top exceed, which really only got you leather and a sunroof

was another 8K or 9K.

And now when the car's new, that's a lot of money, you know, and to have a bit of glass

over your head, as my dad would say, and to have, you know, leather on the seats, which

I didn't want.

You know, I'd rather cloth it's harder wearing than the leather.

You've got to keep feeding the leather and, you know, it's a natural product.

You got to keep it nice and supple and whatever.

So 9K for that, it just, it just isn't worth it.

You know, just absolutely not.

Would you consider one that was the same price as next seat as a second hand car?

Yeah, maybe you wouldn't say no to it, but it's not worth 9K.

No way.

So often there is one or there's one that gets a safety pack.

Or there's one that's just, there's often one that's the, the hero car in the range.

Like this is the one the manufacturer wants to sell as the bread and butter.

And some people will go down and some people will go up at the majority are going to be

that.

And I remember at BMW, they did that with a 125 by hatch.

They were really pitching that against the golf GTI at the time.

And so the 125 by hatch had the M Sport Packard standard and came with, I forget there are

a couple of, you know, the body kit and the M Sport stuff and a couple of other things

it got, but they were really, they really made that one sort of the best value in the

range.

And yeah, some freaks would go up to the M135 six cylinder hatch, but that's getting

really pricey now.

And yeah, you always get your people who would just want a 118 or 120 or something.

But the 125 was the hero in that range.

And that wasn't a top spec.

That wasn't even top spec.

No, no, no.

And that's the same reason for the Pajero example.

You'll see 90% of the GLS because the GLS got the heated front seats.

It got the alloy wheels.

It got the something of the rear camera.

You know, it got, it got 90% of what most people wanted and was great value to go the

exceed.

Well, you've really got to want the top, top leather and roof to spend that extra.

It was two grand more of 1500 bucks more.

Yeah.

I mean, I don't know, maybe I'll have the exceed, but at eight or nine K it's, it's a real

jump.

Also, like how much was, how much was the, how much were they new?

I mean, that, that page we paid.

Oh, shit.

I sold.

Oh, I think I bought the CRB.

Sorry, the Odyssey.

Really?

I think so.

Can you check on yours?

Sold for a thousand and nine.

Yeah.

That was me.

Congratulations.

There you go.

David, I'll be bringing it.

I'll be bringing it.

I'll bring that round to your place and you can have a play with it.

Maybe we'll take it.

Let's take it to the gearbox on Saturday.

Great idea.

There you go.

Is the gearbox Saturday?

It is.

If the twilight gearbox Honda car.

Yeah.

Come down.

Come on down.

Play with David's Odyssey.

I paid for that.

I mean, this is a lot of Christmases and birthdays.

I've just paid for their David for you.

That's cool.

Riley just texted me.

He said, so how much for the Odyssey?

It's hilarious.

My kids learned to drive in that car.

So they can.

And the kids can learn to drive in it.

That is very true.

I think it might need to live down at the, you know, our friends with the Honda gearbox.

I think it might.

That could be a car that ends up down there.

There we go.

So job done.

Specs.

How much was, how much was that?

See that Pajero knew we got, it was a great deal was just before the whole COVID, you

know, bonanza.

So we paid 47 K for that car.

Brand spanking with seven Ks on the clock delivery case, but it was a year old.

Now that was with a tow bar that, and the tow bar was 13 hundred bucks.

So that was a very good deal.

So another eight on top of that, it's a big chunk of the percentage of the car.

It's not worth it.

Well, I mean, that's what I was going to say.

Like the percentage of the car would be huge.

But trees, that was a lot of car for the money.

It is a lot of car for the money.

It's got brand new Bilstein shocks, by the way, after that shock dilemma we had.

And that is behaving itself and the oil, you know, where it was like making more oil.

It hasn't really done that.

And I do wonder, you know, just between this podcast and all the listeners around Melbourne,

Australia, I do wonder if the mechanic who serviced at last just put a little bit too

much oil in it.

So I'm just, you know, just keeping an eye on that.

But it was behaving itself.

It was certainly way better with the Bilstein shocks.

You know, you go around some corners and that you're like, oh, here we go.

This is, this is better than she was even brand new with those crappy shocks.

And we, I got the mechanic who did the shock swap to look at the old ones.

I said, were they KYB or what, you know, what brand were these original OEM mid shocks?

And it just said Mitsubishi on them.

So I reckon they've sourced the last batch from God knows where and they were just crap.

Because the mechanic even said, oh, they normally have KYBs as factory fitment in pages.

And I think mine is a KYB shocked page and they're fine with 240Ks on them.

So anyway, there you go.

But another example like that, Yaris Cross Mum has, you know, that's the hybrid one that everyone wanted.

Yep, everyone wants hybrid tick at that spec.

It's the Urban, which is the highest spec in terms of heated front seats and head up display and keyless entry and all those nice things to have.

But there was one hire that was the all wheel drive.

But the all wheel drive had a battery in the boot that ran the rear axle and you lost a lot of boot space.

And so, and it was an extra four or five grand or something.

So, you know, I looked at that and went, well, you don't need all driver.

She doesn't. Mum doesn't need all drive.

And you, why do you want to reduce boot space and it's heavier?

And it's just, there was just no, no benefit at all to most drivers to go that top spec all wheel drive on.

Unless you were living on the side of a mountain or something like that.

It's a very often it's very clear.

You look, you sit there at the catalog or the online brochure and you kind of go, yeah, no, yeah, no, yeah.

It's that's the peak, you know.

Yeah, pretty much they cover all the basics.

Again, it goes down to the type of car you're looking at, you know, and like how it suits your needs.

So honestly, I think hand explains it as good as it gets.

I don't don't think I can add any more to it.

So yeah, pretty much what he said, I'll back him on that one.

Well, the way I see it is you get what you want and you don't want to have any kind of regrets and think, oh, you know, I kind of wish I probably went with this color or if I just waited that little bit, that little bit longer, I could have got this interior or something like that.

I honestly say, like, just just go for it because I know there's sometimes you might have a weight with some certain things and they're like, oh, we've got this one in stock, but it doesn't really fit what you want.

You could have it right now.

And I'll definitely try and push that.

But you know, seriousness, just wait and get exactly what you want.